MTG Lore Thread Sky Pirates Edition

In an effort to be more invlusive, WOTC has included underage beastiality

>>51148928
>not monkey love edition
SAD

>>51149674
bestiality is having sex with animals, this is just zoophilia.

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>>51148928
>this cutie roody-poo in the loo walls up and smacks your monkey on the ass. What do you do?

>>51150436
I prefer Cindy-loo Poo

>>51148928
The best part about shitty characters on cards is that you can kill them when you play the game!

>So little discussion
Why aren't you enjoying your fresh new lore?

>>51148928

Its not great. I can buy a 15 year old being a sky pirate, and they might even be a 'captain' of a single small one person ship. But I have trouble buying a 15 year old being the captain of a fleet of criminals. You'd think at least one of the other, presumably older and more experienced, captains would be in charge instead.

Aside from that, the writing style in this weeks article is a bit sub par. Nothing too terrible, just a lot of word repetition when it isn't needed and more variety could have been used instead.

>>51151066
Because it sucks.

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>>51149674
I have yet to read it, I like to believe you are joking but I have a feeling its true.

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>tfw Yawgmoth will never wipe out all life on Kaladesh

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>>51151840
Good, now we need Urza to show up and steal the Kaladesh Meekstone.

Also, why is there a Meekstone on Kaladesh? I thought the Meek and Mightstone were one of a kind.

>>51152001
Weren't they just two polar opposites of the same Thran Power Stone?

If this is the case, then could Kaladesh be a Thran Colonial Plane?

>>51152001
>nonlegendary
the ones urza and mishra were unique and two halves of a powerstone containing the spark and possibly soul of a Thran inventor, but at the end if the day they were just that, two halves of a powerstone. there's nothing to stop someone from making another artifact with the equivalent effect on a completely different plane out of obviously different materials

>>51148928
I'm slowly getting interested in MTG. Where do I get started on the lore?

>>51152313
The thran

>>51152156
>Kaladesh was colonized by the Thran

That'd be kinda neat

>>51151066
>Why aren't you enjoying your fresh new lore?
These days, /tg/ is mostly just good at regurgitating old memes they picked up from other boards.

>>51152313
Keep with the old Lore, the more recent stuff is ward-levels of shit.

>>51153372
the new lore is no worse than old lore. it's all lukewarm.

>>51153401
>the new lore is no worse than old lore
The Brother's War begs to differ.

I quite enjoy Mirrodin's lore, it is the most original they've made.

I haven't read the pirate one yet but the prior one titled "Burn" was just unreadable. The fight with Baral went something like
>Hands burning. He kick. Gut pain. Burn. Angery. I crey.
Then he gets one shotted by Nissa and that was it. Also, Chandra's relation dynamic with Gideon was something like a little sister to him, but now there's like a ""thing"" between them? Nissa should just drop and munch on that fiya crotch already and stop being such a cuck. damn.

>>51153432
Seconding this. The Ice Age cycle was pretty great, and the first Legends cycle was entertaining.

There's a feel to the older lore that's entirely missing nowadays, and I'm hard pressed to point out what it was.

>>51152313
Check the multiversity in review blog

>>51154803
>There's a feel to the older lore that's entirely missing nowadays, and I'm hard pressed to point out what it was.
Nostalgy

>>51154803
It feels less 'magical' to me, at least. Today's, for example, felt somehow too short scope even if they blew up the fucking flagship of the enemy. They're trying to focus on action and quirky characters instead of doing more work developing the world and a mood for it.

>>51152001
Ok first of all:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=202419
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=202453
These are the halves of the stone Urza and Mishra found in the Caves of Kolios.

This OTOH:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=31
has been in the game long before Uzra and Mishra were ever even conceived of.

So no
>>51152156
>>51152177
are wrong.
Secondly, Maro and the rest have stated repeatedly and continuously that we will NEVER get Yawgie back nor Urza/Mishra or any of the rest. Not happening ever even if it would be fucking awesome.

>>51155079
Yeah, no. Quit being a retard.
>>51155112
Yeah, worldbuilding seems to have gone downhill.

I want the gatewatch to lose this

The consult is actually pretty justified in a lot of areas

Letting people have complete access to the aether is retarded

Quick question about Innistrad:
If the vampires and demons were getting wiped off, would Sorin intervene on their behalf? Is he beholden to his original people in any way?

>>51151287
Well, it's implied the consulate had never failed to uphold order until Tezzeret came and added his -99 luck to the dice pool.
Under those circumstances there may be some benefit to having a dumb bitch with more ego than brains "lead" your criminal organization.

>>51154315
The first thing Gideon and Chandra did together was spoon.

>>51154803
90's lore had to compete with other fantasy books, because people back then actually read books and there were a shitload of fantasy books so nobody woudl spend a dime on Magic: the Gathering "novels" is they weren't a least above mediocre.
Lore nowadays coattails on the IP in it's entirety. Same with movies, superhero movies are shit but people chase the IP like it's a tribalistic status symbol. Same as happened 6 years ago with electrodomestics, and 20 years ago with clothes.

>>51156830
Demons no, vampires yes.
He considers vampires part of the eco-system and they actually fight demons and other threats when necessary. If the mayority of vampires were more like Runo/Edgar and less like Olivia/Falkenrath, Avacyn would have never been necessary on the first place.

If we ever go back to Innistrad and they are not as retarded as they were with SoI, Olivia will have turned the plane into 17th century Requiem: Vampire Knight.

>>51156830
If I remember correctly, the vampires and demons and werewolves and all the things that go bump in the night were hilariously overpowered compared to humans, which led to them losing their primary food source, and would thus lead to the destruction of pretty much everything on Innistrad.

So in response, Sorin created Avacyn, and the way Avacyn worked, I think, was that the worse things looked for humans, the more powerful she was, so she could cull the numbers of evil things, and the human population would turn to an uptick. Then Avacyn gets weaker, vampires and shit get the upper hand, feast on humans, humans get weak, Avacyn strong, and so on and so forth ad infinitum.

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>>51157155
Pretty much. Avacyn ensured that the Humans would always have a fighting chance while simultaneous still being too weak to 'win'.

Even at her strongest there is just so much evil on the plane and it's all so much of a threat that she could never hope to battle it all.

>>51157107
Falkenrath is RIP I think, or at least the majority of his family is. Avacyn fucked them up hard during SOI because she was no longer beholden to the restrictions of Sorin.

>>51157155
>the way Avacyn worked, I think, was that the worse things looked for humans, the more powerful she was, so she could cull the numbers of evil things, and the human population would turn to an uptick.

Demons on Innistrad are a lot like kami on kamigawa in that they can't entirely be destroyed, just temporarily banished from a location. Avacyn and her angels beat them up regularly and keep them away, and later 'fixed' werewolves to make them friendly again(the Wolfir).

Then WotC shit on a good plane and made it Zendikar 2.0

>>51154803
>I'm hard pressed to point out what it was.
Actual flawed characters who don't trip over a solution to every problem?

>15 year old girl
>Card has Menace

I don't know, this kinda stretches my suspension of disbelief.

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>>51155216
>No Yawg
>No Urza
>No Mishra
>yfw instead we get Gix

>>51157866

Old lore is dead. Let it go

>>51157896
>Old Lore is dead
>Karn and Phyrexia still exist

>>51157896
>Hating on Gix

He's probably the only person from the old lore who would even make sense to return

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>>51157361
Falkenrath are still kind of around. With SOI Avacyn going super hardcore on everything she basically pushed them into being raiders and monsters. Most of the crazy madness vampires in SOI and EMN are Falkenraths.

On the other hand, look, another Innistrad legendary who keeps getting mentioned but won't get a card until a commander set years down the line!

These threads are dying very quickly. It's as if new lore was too uninteresting to talk about (which I think it is, really) and old lore is better discussed elsewhere.

I've read a lot of the new stuff and I don't really feel like things have 'happened'.

>>51157361
God, she was so gorgeous. Why did WotC have to ruin a good thing? She looked great in the evil armor, but damn. Why u do dis, wotc?

>>51159474
The last lore thread for Burn lasted a few days and reached post cap. This story just sucks ass.

>>51156995
Actually, the first thing they did was Gideon threw her in jail.

>>51154315
But yea, they spooned in the same bed at one point. Gideon did his best to hide his raging hoplite.

>>51159630
So if Lili has Jace, and Chandra has Gideon, who does Nissa have?

>>51160148
emrakul trapped in a moon
or lesbo sex with bunny lady and fish lady

>>51155112
>>51155720
Honestly, the worldbuilding was good in the nineties, started going downhill after Tempest block, after the story changed hands and the original ideas were thrown out. They ended up pulling the plug on the Weatherlight Saga early, and then worldbuilding spiraled down until we hit Mirrodin and started planeshopping. The worlds got more interesting and better-developed as we continued, right up through Tarkir.

Then the Gatewatch happened, and they stopped caring about the worlds as anything other than backdrops.

I struggled through reading things starting with Battle for Zendikar, and more or less gave up reading the stories entirely after the first few weeks on Kaladesh. It was clear that we were on the plane simply because it was Chandra's home world, and the only reason they gave us to care about the rebellion was that Chandra's mother was leading it. Very few cards or stories conveyed any kind of real unfairness from the Consulate, other than their attempts to suppress a rebellion. It all just felt very staged, and staged solely so that Chandra could have her emotional moment.

I've more or less given up on Magic for now.

>>51160148
ashaya

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>>51159503
Wait is Avacyn your waifu?

>>51156830
>Innistrad
Piggybacking on this

Did Nahiri get imprisoned in the Helvault thing? If so did she get released at the same time as Avecyn?
I've read some of the lore and it's unclear.

I know at one point she was on Innistrad and that crazy bitch called an Eldrazi to take revenge on Sorin Markov.

>>51162545
_no

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>>51163389
How can you say no to that face?

>>51163000
Nahiri got thrown into the Helvault shortly after its creation, the same time that Avacyn got made by Sorin as well. The two tussled a bit, back before the Mending happened, so they were still nigh unkillable demigods. When the Helvault broke she was literally the last thing spit out of it, Mending stuff happened and she just ran away from Innistrad to try and heal.

Only she ran home to Zendikar and saw that the Eldrazi were roaming free and eating the plane. So she healed up just enough to not die once landing on Innistrad and started to go about luring Emrakul to the plane to have it eat Innistrad as revenge on Sorin.

Turns out her lure also drove Avacyn crazy and broke it free of Sorin's influence, which she took as a nice bonus.

Last we saw of her was sticking Sorin in a block of granite to watch Emrakul eat the plane and Planeswalk away to somewhere else.

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>>51148928
Meh story.

>hurr she has a monkeysss!!!11
Why are people hype about it? Alse she seems like she doesn't shave.

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>>51164709
Because reddit literally eats that shit up, they aren't even hiding the fact that they are marketing towards tumblr teens, she just missing a flower crown, and red nose, and some made up sexual orientation to make her a true tumblr OC.

At least jace was as annoyed to be in the story as I was when I read this shlock. I do wonder why jace is capable of getting motion sickness when he can handle having multiple viewpoints and thoughts simultaniously blasted into his consciousness.

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>>51163455

>avacyn
>having hyrises

>>51164013
Thank you! I ask because I'm doing a roleplay thing that's set in Innistrad right as Lilian Vess arrives. And I want to fix things. And if possible not be consumed by an Eldrazi abomination.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVE1DVzNnLTZNVkU/view

Right now my plan is to discretely disturb Nahiri's cryptoliths. So that Avacyn doesn't succumb to madness. And hopefully Emrakul doesn't come to eat everything.

If I ask Sorin Markov for help will he bite me or is he genuinely a good guy?

>>51165026
I believe you already know the answer.

>>51165202
>roleplay thing
no such thing as a M:tG TTRPG

>>51165026
Motion sickness is physical and primarily a result of your body confusing the signals it is getting from your inner ear, your eyes, other senses, and such. Unless Jace deliberately controlled said signals down to individual bones/organs (e.g. manipulating the sensations of his inner ear, internally), he could still suffer from it.

Shit, if he has to deal with multiple other consciousnesses and minds interacting, then he could well get it worse than others simply because he has so many extra senses by way of his telepathy.

>>51157860
she's indin, she doesn't do a poo in a loo and uses her left hand to wipe and her right to eat. Can you use your weak hand to wipe your ass?

>>51160148
Did you not read the fanfic tier story where gideon is giving chandra a hug because she's basically ded and nissa walks in and is sad because she <3s chandra?

>>51165202
I think Emrakul approaching made Avacyn crazy. The cryptoliths just seemed to be a way to direct Emrakul to innistrad and Nahiri let Emrakul just do her thing.

someone post sauce that I'm wrong, otherwise I'm right

>>51166310
Right but without the cryptoliths the Eldrazi doesn't come. If it doesn't come Avacyn doesn't get corrupted.

>Tfw when Nahiri used to be your waifu
>Then WotC ruin her character
Life is suffering

>>51166345
But the cryptolith itself didn't do anything to avacyn AFAIK

>>51166310
>>51166345
I think the avacyn going crazy thing was from Nahiri twisting the mana of the plane so hard originally. Since angels are basically big people-shaped balls of white mana when the mana of innistrad started getting forced around the cryptoliths all the angels started freaking out, save the few that had inbuilt hexproof.

Then Emmy starts to show up and it gets even worse, because now not only do we have angels who are going haywire, we have haywire angels getting hijacked by eldrazi.

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>>51166345
But if she doesn't get crazy she doesn't get sexy

>>51166442
Sure if you wanted to "fix" things (whatever that means) you'd have to destroy the cryptolith and prevent all manifestation of Eldrazi in the plane

I just skimmed the story, is this all right?

>Kari Zev is 15 years old and the leader of the derby crows, all more experienced and whatnot than her?
>Depala hangs out with pirates, but isn't a pirate?
>Jace reads Kari's mind, creates illusions of her fleet that skysovereign bopped?
>They steal aether and sell it to renegades successfully?

>>51166478
Is Avacyn like the other angels?
Why wasn't Sigarda affected when Bruna+Gisela became Brisela?
>>51166487
it really depends on what fix means. Is fix get rid of eldrazi? In 5-10 years when we return to innistrad again, will wotc just say that bcuz emrakul is in the moon innistrad is fine, lol, no worries?

I really like that Sigarda fights against delirium and protects you from Emrakul. A+. Original Sigarda also makes it so you don't have to sac things to original Emrakul.

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>>51157860
A 15 year old can be menacing anon.

>>51148928
Question: I am just starting to get back into Magic after about ten years (or more), and was curious if anyone remembered an old website devoted to Magic lore? It was phyrexia-"something."

It had images of the cars and went into detail on the lore. I doubt it is still around, but wouldn't mind pulling it up on the Internet Archive or something, for nostalgia.

Did anybody else notice the abundance of typos in this week's story? Is Ari Levitch just bad at the whole writing thing? I feel like this isn't a common occurrence.

>>51166627
Avacyn was made by Sorin back when oldwalkers were still demigods, and the other angels basically were forced to follow her lead because of how strong she was, even if they know she's not a normal angel.

Before Avacyn the strongest angels where Sigarda, Bruna, Gisela, and an unnamed fourth one (basically a BW Angel to complete that cycle of them). Avacyn shows up and then kills the BW Angel and all of her clique of angels for some reason (it's believed the BW angels were willing to work with vampires, devils, and werewolves if it meant keeping humans alive) because to Avacyn that's as bad as aiding them in killing humanity.

So Avacyn - by herself - killed a quarter of the angels on Innistrad. And then forced the rest of them to kneel to her. That's how strong she was. And that's why she got corrupted first by Nahiri's mana twisting cryptoliths.

>>51157945
This. He was never confirmed killed, just through into a portal. Maybe he buildt/conquererd his own Phyrexian plane.
He'd make a great villain and competitor to NU Phyrexia, being oldschool mono black.
If not that, they could still release him in a Commander Nostalgia set.

>>51166627
I figure sigarda wasn't affected because the according to the Art of Innistrad, the whole Host of Herons is all about warding and protective magic, especially in resisting curses/other malign magics. They managed to survive because they get free hexproof, as a natural part of being a G/W angel.

This really raises the question of what the hell the B/W host had back before Avacyn genocided them.

>>51167259
I'm still upset the BW Angel didn't come back in eldritch moon or shadows to be another "good guy" flight of angels.

>>51167578
supposubly avacyn killed that one

>>51167578
>No BW Angel.
>No Anje Falkenrath
>Ludevic doesn't get a card until months later, and its boring as hell.

God damn it Wizards.

>>51167259
Personally, I think the BW Angel pack had some form of reanimation (if we go along with GW angels being warding and protective magic, RW angels doubling damage dealt and halving damage taken, and UW angels dealing with enchantments). If I were to try and guess at the mechanic, probably something akin to Lingering Souls and Unburial Rites having Flashback.

Maybe the BW angel was straight up an angel with Reanimate a creature on attack, only now it's a spirit in addition to its other creature types.

>>51167757
I like that idea a lot. This probably also explains why they were more willing to work with demons and vampires. When you can bring back the dead, their predatory stuff is less of a problem.

It also fits with them being a naturally occurring angel flight in Innistrad Pre-Avacyn. Very valkyrie.

>>51167671
>revival doesn't exist in mtg
>especially in the two colors best at it

Hey, as far as plot ass-pulls go it's not that farfetched.

>>51165202
Sorin isn't a good guy. He just doesn't like people messing with his plane but he's an apathetic, amoral immortal.

>>51166435
So you liked her more when all she did was sleep buried underground?

>>51166848
You may be thinking of phyrexia.com. The forum had a great community for lore and some other random shit that went around. Some of the regulars fled to no goblins allowed, I think, and the site's been dying a slow death but its still there in all its 90s internet glory.

>>51166435
This was her character all along. We just hadn't seen it yet.

>>51167950
Not to mention said exterminated angels are the two colors best at revival magic.

How does this plot sound for when they eventually do Innistrad 3.0?

> Sigarda and her host are struggling to keep back the demons and vampires from finishing off humanity.
> Werewolves are trying to help out, but sometimes when they transform it's into eldritch abominations thanks to Emrakul still being in the moon.
> Desperate for aid, Thalia and her cathars locate an ancient spell and the grave site of the BW Angel and revive her, hoping that the angel can revive the other two hosts and recreate the angel hosts to help defend them.
> BW Angel comes back, sees all the shit that happened and starts to do that, but the spell goes wrong.
> Now you've got spirit versions of a lot of the last few blocks running around - spirit Avacyn, spirit Gisela, spirit Bruna, etc., and they're going ape shit at being around again.
> Somehow during all this, Sorin gets freed from his block of granite and is fucking pissed AND hungry.
> Second half of the block is basically the humans + properly revived angels vs. a horde of ghostly undead and spirit Avacyn looking to finish what she started, all the while Sorin's starting to gorge himself on anything that has blood so he can sate his hunger.
> Throughout all this. Emrakul's just sitting in the moon, munching on a bag of popcorn.

>>51168245
Return of mono black Sorin would be pretty sweet.

>>51168245
I like it, though we have to bring up the classic innistrad question.
>innistrad is all about horror tropes
>Innistrad one was classical horror, innistrad 2 was eldritch horror, what would innistrad 3 be?

Personally I'm thinking something along the lines of Existentialist Horror, considering the majority of the populace have just watched their god go crazy, get murdered, and then seen the world go mad as a giant squiddy thing tore holes in reality. Thats gotta fuck up your pseudo-victorian worldview a lot.

>>51169161
Is existential horror really a trope that gets used often in media the way gothic and eldritch are?

>>51169161
Isn't Emmy trapped in the moon now?

>>51169410
Now that I think about it not really. Pity, a set based around existential dread and creeping fear could be fun.

>>51169466
Currently, yes.
My assumption is that now innistrad is more back to "normal" but on the full moon things get weird for a bit.

>>51169466
Emmy is voluntarily chilling out in the moon until either the stars are right, a new Ula and Cosi show up, or some other such nonsense.

Trapped is a bit of misnomer when you do it to your self.

>>51169541
But everyone was amazed when Houdini did it.

Do innistrad werewolves transform every night or only under full moon?

>>51170686
I dont think they actually have a predictable schedule? Art of Innistrad emphasizes that most of the myths about them the populace believe, like a contagious bite. I think they they change a lot, whenever their wolf-spirit decides to go on a runner.

>>51167172
Your version of events is mostly correct, but slightly off.

The strongest angel on Innistrad and leader of the four was the unnamed BW angel. When Avacyn appeared out of nowhere, the angels were in awe of how powerful and pure she was. According to Sigarda, they viewed Avacyn in the same light that a human might view the angels. Each of the four sisters reacted to Avacyn in a different way, depending on each of their colors. Sigarda held her at arms length, because she's green and Avacyn felt unnatural to her. Gisela grew to see her as a friend because of her skill in battle and EXTREME righteousness. No one seemingly cares about Bruna, because her outlook is never mentioned. However, while it wasn't stated outright, it's implied that the BW sister felt her position threatened by Avacyn's insane power (a very black trait).

So the BW sister made a deal with a demon lord and entered into an alliance with him and his ilk. And, again while not directly stated, the implied reason for this action is to try and overthrow Avacyn. The other angels unanimously condemn their eldest sister's actions. However, none of them were willing to purge her or her flight. Because treacherous or not, she was still their sister.

So Avacyn declares the sister a heretic, decrees that her very name should be wiped from records, and goes off to fight the sister on her own. When she arrives, she single-handedly annihilates the BW sister, her entire flight, and all the demons she entered into an alliance with.

From that point on, Avacyn lead all the angels on Innistrad.

>>51169161
For horror tropes, let's basically break down the sets.

> Innistrad, Dark Ascension, Avacyn Restored

It established the world being basically horror, Dark Ascension was basically, 'oh god oh god we're all about to die,' and Avacyn Restored was basically the HFY moment when good triumphs over evil.

> Shadows over Innistrad, Eldritch Moon

SoI was 'oh god, our savior's gone crazy and so have most of the good guys who saved our asses a few months ago,' and Eldritch Moon was literally H.P Lovecraft.

The proposed Innistrad 3 visit would talk about a mix of existential horror and the afterlife, because one of the big things in Innistrad is making sure you get your 'Blessed Sleep,' where for all the shit and horror you dealt with in life, when you die, so long as your body and soul are laid to rest properly (proper burial, no one reanimating your corpse, etc.) you (ie., your soul) get to just sleep and relax in bliss.

But with the proposed 3.0, this means that even in death there is no peace, because your spirit is forced to come back and suffer even more pain and agony. Really drives home the, 'this plane sucks ass for ANYONE on it, don't come here ever' portion of Innistrad. And it mind fucks the inhabitants even more because it drives home the notion that this last moment of hope and peace they thought they had (ie., the Blessed Sleep) is taken from them because things are so fucked up even death doesn't work right anymore.

And that doesn't even mention the fact that there's an eldritch abomination just chilling in the moon, whose whole mythos is about a guaranteed end to all things (and possible rebirth if you buy into the idea of Emrakul being the one who recycles planes and remakes them).

>>51157860
The very real Phoolan Devi was 16 when she became a bandit, and she could be pretty menacing I guess.

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So can someone give me the quick rumdown on some stuff in Kaladesh? I stopped following the lore a while ago because the writing was bad fanfictuon tier garbage. But now I'm hearing about meekstones in the plane, and I guess some chick is all about opening portals to other planes, and saw that new portal artifact that is pretty much a Planar Portal upgrade.

Mentioned some of this at my shop and had a bunch of people tell me Phyrexia is rumored to be invading the plane at some point.

Between everything I've mentioned, the fact that its an artifacts everywhere plane, and Tezz being in town, that is a lot of pieces in place that makes an invasion sound reasonable.

Is there any weight to that or is it bullshit?

I like how Kaladesh's lore is so boring that we're all still talking about Innistrad.

>>51171702
There isn't really not much to talk about, they built the Planar Bridge which got destroyed. Period.

The setting was alright, but it wasn't amazing or anyhting. Is it really a ground breaking plane? Is there going to be a Kaladesh 2 in 5 years from now? IMO I hope not.

>>51171362
For existentialist horror wizards and science take over, golden age of reason, go full Kaladesh, but without any morals.

I was a little behind, just now got around to reading Burn, and I suddenly like Dovin Baan a lot more. Great villain who doesn't even realize he's playing the part, the best UW kind of villain.

>>51171891
They need to make Energy evergreen
Or at least think about using it instead of charge counters unless absolutely necessary.

>>51172523
Energy is a shit mechanic. MTG does not need a new pseudo mana resource.

>>51171891
literally a plane shattering plane bcuz planar portals. Otherwise, boring af. We only care about kaladesh because chandra + pia, we have no other reason to care other than one of our main characters moms is fighting the consulate and tezzy happened to be there

>>51172444
Dovin x Tezzy plz wotc, I want a gay autismo and gay cyborg in my card game about attacking with a 2 mana 5/6

>>51171660
As of right now, no. Next block is Bolas being Bolas in not!Egypt.
Will it happen in the future? I'd put it at 25% in the next few blocks, 95% by 2027.

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>>51171891
Their market metrics will ensure a Kaladesh 2 is due sometime soon. But I agree the story was super bland. I have a hard time caring about Chandra. I think the ADHD 15 year old personality she has now makes her very hard to relate to from the very beginning, where her story was "I dont want to do my homework" up to now.
While magic has always had designated bad guys, Tezzeret is cartoon villain tier.

>>51173377
In reply to Tezzeret cartoon villain tier comment: having your mind erased and remade by Bolas multiple times will do that to you.

>>51160795
Worldbuilding was pretty good in Odyssey superblock and original Innistrad, to the point that we could make maps of Otaria and Innistrad.'s provinces.

>>51166442
The cryptoliths were what turned Avacyn and the other angels insane. Since Innistrad's angels are beings of pure mana, and Cryptoliths corrupted and hijacked mana leylines, something about that caused the angels to go haywire. The cryptoliths I don't think were "meant" to fuck up Avacyn but it was a convenient side effect. Either way they were explicitly the cause of her madness

>>51160795
That's because the Consulate ARE fair, they aren't supposed to be bad guys. We aren't supposed to hate the Consulate. To be honest I can understand the confusion but I thought it was clear that the rebellion was about Tezzeret being a dictator and overthrowing him, rather than the Consulate in general. It gets kind of confused since in Chandra's origin story it was kind of implied Baral was representative of the Consulate since he was mostly how we saw it and he was very clearly corrupt, but the worldbuilding was probably not even complete at that point (I don't think the concept of the Kaladesh aetheric atmosphere and its harnessing as an energy source had even been established yet, and that's one of the main facets of the world, as it was said that by Origins they hadn't even figured out of energy/mechanic E was a go) and it's been clarified that in general the Consulate is actually benevolent and good for Kaladesh, just Tezzeret has driven it into the ground by rerouting all the aether to focus on developing the Planar Bridge and cracking down on those against his coup.

>>51173879
Consulate was meant to be a mostly neutral government body with pockets of evil inside it (mainly Baral and people like him in power who hate mages). It's only when Tezzeret showed up and corrupted them more via killings, threats, and bribes that it's changed into how it is now.

The renegades were always around, but most of the time they were fighting for deregulation of aether restrictions, which the Consulate had control of via aether gathering ships and storage facilities for it. We also don't know if aether is like our world's form of fossil fuels (i.e., non-renewable) or if it reappears after some time thanks to something like a leak in the plane letting aether from the Blind Eternities roll in like a flow of water.

>>51169161
>>51171362
>Set 1: Slasher horror
A subset of the human population succumbs to Olivia's games and become manhunters to prolong their own lives as much as possible.
>Set 2: Survival horror
Olivia may be gone but the source of evil remains. With no one to pray to and nothing but their lives left to lose, the remaining cathars venture into The Ashmouth to find and destroy the source of demonic spawns.

>>51174117
Pretty sure while it's not outright said that aether is probably a renewable natural resource, since that fits better into the "optimistic steampunk" feel of the world, but that's an interesting thought if it turns out it's actually a finite resource. And actually a pretty sweet idea for a plot thread for return to Kaladesh.

>>51174177
It also allows for a contrast with Esper, where, pre-Conflux, etherium was very much non-renewable.

>>51174117
I know this is true, but source? I haven't recived my copy of the Kaladesh artbook.

>>51174258
Isn't etherium from (mostly) the Grixis portion of Alara, and most of that is cause it's almost literally living metal?

>>51172523
No

>>51174446
I swore I remember reading about it from the Planeswalker's guide to Kaladesh on the WotC website, but I could be wrong.

>>51174890
Actually from Jund because it's an alloy composed partly from fossilized dragon blood called as sangrite. As Esper was cut off from the other shards pre-Conflux, etherium was previously (and perhaps still generally thought of as, since I don't know if we know how aware the scholars of Esper are of its composition and where to find its components) a finite resource as esper obviously has no dragons. We know Breya has rediscovered sangrite and has the ability to forge her own etherium but e don't knwo the ramifications of that yet.

>>51174890
Etherium is made from sangrite, which is from Jund dragons.

>>51175119
>>51175128
Ah, ok, I couldn't remember and figured it came from the shard of undead shit, not the shard of death and fire.

>>51166107
>M:tG TTRPG
I think anon is talking about Magic fanfiction?

>>51175534
Mtg lore has plenty of stuff for the setting of an rpg. They've even started releasing d&d guides for Zendikar and Innistrad.

I played a game where the party was composed of Azorius and Boros cops. It was like Die Hard with goblins.

>>51172616
you're a shit mechanic

>>51173550
in reply to cartoon tezzeret defence: mindwiping doesn't make you a fool or a caricature, tezz is still a saturday morning dick dastardly archetype in kaladesh story

>>51173879
>>51174117
>actualy interesting things that the story glosses over in favor of muh gatewatch.