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What's the most important item to buy with my 3000 gold as a melee Paladin? +1 Greatsword?

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>>51136508

>>51136554
What level?
Because if you're just level 3, there are better spending options considering a +1 weapon will eat a large chunk of your budget

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>>51136495
Exactly

PoW was flavor of the year, but now we are disillusioned with it and we have realized that it was made by people who had no idea what the fuck they were doing.

DSP shilling without their trips on was probably the turning point.

>>51136608
OP here.
And fuck you to you shit garggling cunt nozzle

Go away, you're as much of a shitposter as kitsunefag and witch hunter

Seriously, don't you have anything better to do than post your obnoxious meme every thread?

Oh, wait, I already know the answer, you don;t because you are a sad and pathetic NEET with no life

>>51136600
Yeah, level 3

What's your reccomendation? I can't buy armor

Are you just talking about a suite of wands and scrolls?

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>>51136577
I've decided not to be petty. I'll post your witches, OP.

>>51136648
A Masterwork weapon,
A backup weapon
your usual kit of things
Any other miscellaneous utility items as appropriate
muleback cords
Perhaps some other minor wonderous items, like feather charms

Also, why can't you buy armor? because usually I make sure I have a decent set of armor.

Also, if your game will not focus on events that will precipitate the use of non-combat items and supplies, then I guess you could go for the +1 greatsword

>>51136608
I'm pretty sure the "shilling" has long since been dead, the only thing left is telling people like you who scream about the damage and only the damage to fuck off. Seriously, I'm the person who wants to be in a PoW-less game and I think you're being an enormous bitch about the whole thing. Just because I said I didn't want a thing doesn't mean you have to immediately do your spiel on why "yea you don't want thing, that's great because thing is TOTALLY AWFUL and has absolutely NO REDEEMING QUALITIES, AMIRITE GUYS? EH, EHHHH?"

>>51136645
The "it's not really a problem that a 5th level DPS character can deal 150 damage in a round" argument happened again, and I was a little late for it.

Usually when I post this image, the DSP shilling dies out and we can talk about pathfinder for once.

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>>51136664
Witches and Liches

>>51136761
>anyone who like DSP is a shill
>When I post the image it means I r smart, and not because people decided to abandon any attempt of intellectual communication because everyone realizes I'm a huge shitposter and an idiot who wil do nothing but scream SHILL SHILL SHILL at everything

cut off your fingers and eat a cockroach you vacuous shitmonger!

What Patron should I give a Coven of Ley Line Guardian Witches, hmm?

They'll be attempting to summon it into reality.

>>51136508
Are there any good multiclass/prestige class options for witches? I'm finding monoclass builds to be rather boring for me lately.

It might just be that I'm a permanent DM most of the time, but I'm finding i really hate dead time more than i enjoy having a spotlight, so I like to have a character that can do a bit of everything.

>>51136860
Winter Witch is practically built for witches

>>51136508
>experienced

Our witch keeps getting set ablaze. It's pretty irritating.

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>>51136778

>>51136881

Typical hot headed witches. Never knowing when to keep out of others prejudices. Next thing you know they will be accusing others without a spectral of evidence.

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>>51136648
Why can't you buy armor?

I'd say go with >>51136713 but also consider some potions if you're worried things might go bad, though as a paladin you probably can heal yourself.

Consider something for roleplay elements, if you feel like an item might bring more to your character. Like a pocketed scarf or a holy symbol that can hold a vial of alcohol or poison or something.

What's this a bout a witch hunter anyway?

>>51136827
Calm down dude. We can be civil.

>>51136860
full casters like the witch are generally bad to multiclass. I recommend playing an alchemist, inquisitor, warpriest, etc.

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>>51136876
It seems a bit limited to ice and it requires the Winter Witch archetype anyway, right?

Is there like, a pathfinder shopping cart program I'm not aware of? Trying to maximize my budget requires having like 15 tabs open at once. I must be doing something wrong

>>51136713
>>51136927
Well, the thing is she's one of the apps to one of the pfg games, and shilling her feels like a bad idea. Suffice to say, the build isn't actually proficient in armor.

>>51136930
>We can be civil.
You've already proven in the past that you are incapable, so I've given up on doing so as well

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>>51136930
I've usually mixed wizard for things like Arcane Archer, Arcane Trickster and Eldritch Knight. Witch seemed like it wouldn't work as well for those, though.

>>51136645
Did NEET become a real insult now? I thought using that sad label that impugns the user more than the target was a Japan and U.K. thing the rest of the world shamefacedly pretended not to hold against them on a cultural level.

>>51136965
See? You just were. Progress!

>>51136986
Exactly. Hexes are a huge part of what a witch is, and you need them to scale or you just aren't competitive. I highly recommend a 6th level caster because almost all of them are very fun to play and very versatile.

>>51136956
>she's one of the apps to one of the pfg games,

I don't follow.

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>>51137035
I'll think that over, thanks anon.

>>51137049
I'm working on the character sheet for my character I applied to one of the games that cropped up in here.

>>51136956

There are a few lists of essentials to have at various levels and all around useful gear. Most of it loses its value after a certain point but for immersion it is nice to have.

>>51137090
Right, but why would a Paladin lack armor?

>>51137106
Getting it from other abilities

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>>51136904
Looks like this thread is taking an elven turn.

What's a good way to die heroically in Osirion?

>>51137451
Locked in combat with the guardian of an ancient tomb
slaying a dreaded mummy lord
Fighting in service of the Ruby Prince, that he may revive you as a member of his honor guard
Single handedly fending off a horde of bandits to protect a trade caravan
Fighting an army of Werecrocodiles
Fighting a CE Awakened Dire Hippo with class levels

>>51137451
Fighting an immortal vampire with a god complex, and determining the truth of his powers/weakness, and giving that information to your comrades before your death

>>51137518
>Fighting a CE Awakened Dire Hippo with class levels

>lostcroc.webm

Here is my houserule:

There is always a suprise round. If you are suprised, you skip it.

Is this a stupid idea?

>>51137952
Define surprised.

>>51137952
as in OoC surprised?

>>51138024
>>51138030
failed-the-perception-check-they-got-the-drop-on-you surprised.

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>tfw join game thinking it's one thing
>tfw game starts and it's something else entirely
>tfw you're not having fun
>tfw you're not roleplaying like you can
>tfw your character's function, their purpose, their goals, are utterly worthless or defunct in this new vision
>tfw struggle as hard as I can to make the character click, but it just isn't working

If this wasn't a high-profile /pfg/ campaign I would've quit already. God dammit.

>>51138107
Talk to the DM and bow out? Let someone else who is a better fit come in?

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What's a good way to build relationships with other characters after the campaign starts? Right now we're all connected to one guy, like spokes or a web. We really need to branch out, but it's tough when one character has such high CHA.

>>51138107
Is this HV? Tell us about it, give me your spot.

>>51138138

I was going to do this later tonight, I just wanted to vent a little of my sheer frustration. Not at the campaign - everyone else is bloody fantastic, but at my inability to actually adapt or join in on the activities.

>>51138178
Some things don't jive with some people. People are different. It's a good thing. Find what you love and chase it!

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>Two /pfg/s
>One is kitsuneposter bullshit
>The other is some dipshit who somehow manages to be just as annoying as the witch hunt anon he rails against
>MFW

>>51138068
That's pretty much how it works anyway.

If no one is surprised there is just no surprise round

>>51138213
The first roudn of combat is a standard action only?

>>51138208
oh hai witch hunter

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>>51138200

That's the thing, this *should* jive with me. But it's not. Oh my god is it not.

>>51138298
...what isn't jiving?

>>51138224
No, but if no one gets surprised, everyone skips the surprise round

>>51138322
Nope: for my houserule: If no-one is suprised, then everyone is in the suprise round, and everyone gets a standard action.

Good or bad idea?

>>51138312

My character with the plot. The plot itself. The other characters. My character. Everything isn't falling in place like it normally does, maybe voice is and always has been a better medium for me.

>>51138350
Are you sure you aren't having general anxiety?

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>>51138368

... Maybe? Things have been rough since the first, and I can't see them getting any better. From where I'm standing, someone far more deserving of the slot should get in rather than me, I can't offer anything someone can't offer better.

>>51138349
It's not terrible.

post your face when the party member capable of saving you from a TPK by allowing the spirit in his body to take temporary control says no to the spirit and you all die

>>51138178

Talk to the players and the GM. What makes you think you are not meshing?

>>51138418
It's the kinks isn't it?

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What are the arguments for and against Path of War being overpowered?

The benchmark here is Paizo's tier 3s, the campaign assumes an Adventure Path (seems like those are what's popular anyway), in a game starting from level 1 (because APs always start from level 1).

>>51138453

I love the kinks, actually.

>>51138452
>What makes you think you are not meshing?

The fact I'm a lame duck in the roleplay whenever it happens? Seriously, I'm usually the guy that takes a large-and-in-charge approach to things, but this guy's been spending most of his time on the sidelines giving the occasional quip. It's like I'm not even there, and I can't see things changing in the near or even far future.

>>51138466
Level 5: 150 damage pounce every other turn forever. If you aren't a PoW you might as well be a wizard or just not show up.

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>>51138466
Path of War only really goes off the rails at level 5 or so. Before then, it's not as strong as things like Color Spray or Sleep.

>>51138510
>I deal 30 damage a turn at level 2 and have over 25 AC and I can trip things at reach.
>this is fine.

>>51138480

There is nothing wrong with being an audience member. Are you having fun? If you feel you should not be on the sidelines talk to people and see what can be done. Do you have an IRC?

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>>51137130
Welp this is the true /pfg/ now.

>>51138551

That is a very cute Elf!

>>51138466
For: You do a whole lot of damage. Those numbers of yours are really big.
Against: Getting through combat faster is only a measure of power within combat. If you're not just hacking your way through waves of monsters then PoW is no more powerful than a well optimized barbarian.

>>51138548
>There is nothing wrong with being an audience member

There is *everything* wrong with being an audience member. If you're just there to occasionally swing your sword or say a quip or three while everyone else develops relationships and get all close and friendly with each other, that's a huge waste of an afternoon and a sign you're not doing the right thing.

>Are you having fun?

No, hell no.

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Tell me PFG what's your favorite module or adventure path? That one plot(s) that was entertaining the whole way through

>>51138604
>double the damage record of a autistic barbarian
Barbarians are already almost a problem. PoW just destroys any semblance of encounter design.

>>51138544
>A Barbarian with a Lucerne

>>51138606

Different people are different. And depending on how many people there are it can be a boon rather than a hindrance.

Are others sitting out? If you are not having fun the first step is talking to the GM and the Players. The second would be sticking through, maybe you find your groove? The last would be bowing out.

>>51136608
>>51136608
>>51136608
>>51136608
>>51136608
>>51136608

>>51138544
>deal 30 damage a turn
>vs kill instantly in an aoe every turn

>>51138492
Elaborate please? I missed the original thread.

>>51138639
And as I said, if the game extends past encounter design then it ceases to be a problem.

>>51138606

Anon, you're precious and I must protect you.

Please talk to GM. I bet if you work together, there's a way to have fun!

>>51138606
Something must be wrong with me then, I quite enjoy my softspoken Soul Knife that only joins the conversation when she's asked to, and is content to just be an observer.

>>51138671
>15 foot cone
>35% chance of doing literally nothing
>three times a day.

>>51138685
>if the game extends past the part with the nmubers and the monster manual and 95% of the fucking rules it isn't a problem.
No, actually it still is. Because PoW can't do anything old martials couldn't.

>>51138466
>for
MUH DAMAGES! MUH BOOSTS!
>Against
You still have the same results a competantly built martial will have regardless, and Strikes aren't the problem, its full attacking which is generally your go-to for damage still. All Strikes do is give you either an extra way to do maneuvers, or apply rider effects to your attacks. or actually be able to move around and attack, or actually have incentive to shield-bash.

PoW raises the optimization floor, and makes different playstyles actual enjoyable, all the damage bloat is stuff that is basically still a problem even in the Paizo Pathfinder

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>>51138569
Have another cute elf!

>>51138641
>Lucerne
>Not Greatsword or Earth Breaker
Laughingbellcurve.jpeg

>>51138657
>Are others sitting out?

No? Everyone else is posting fairly regularly and having what seems to be a lot of fun enjoying the intrigue or getting comfy while I'm sitting here just twiddling my thumbs.

>If you are not having fun the first step is talking to the GM and the Players. The second would be sticking through, maybe you find your groove?

That's what I'll be doing soon enough, and then sitting long and hard to see if trying to work on my happiness is worth blocking out someone's potential happiness if they joined where I left.

>>51138689
>Anon, you're precious and I must protect you.

You can't protect me, I'm not even precious.

>>51138751
Those feel like they got reversed; I consider it a benefit that full-attacks and "I boost, move, strike, and next turn I counter" can work on the same character. Full-attack-as-a-standard Strikes are cancer though.

>>51138751
>raises the floor
>150 damage pounce at level 5
jesus christ

>>51138757

I want to snuggle with that Elf in the grass, giving her cute little kisses and passionately groping her chest until the points are sharp enough to cute glass!

>>51138761
He said Reach, and Lucerne is one of the best options for Barbarians to have reach

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>>51138757

Do any of the people who applied for both Molthune and RotJR have a plan for if they get into both? Try to fit both into your schedule? Drop one? Which one would you drop?

>>51138778
Again, please explain? Or is "muh 150 damage" a meme?

>>51138767
Tyran is this you? Or are you Marshall?

>>51138785
Oh I didn't see reach

Yeah Lucerne Hammers are p. good

>>51138794
Di/Seht here. I doubt I'll get into both but I think I'd withdraw from Molthune.

>>51138778
And what's all that damage doing against a foe, anon? What is all that extra damage doing? This isn't Final Fantasy 10, where you get more XP for doing overkill damage; it's not like your damage overflows and spontaneously explodes the next mook over. All that extra damage means nothing other than "so this guy can't be revived". And if you kill an enemy that's a higher CR, guess what? He probably wasn't alone, there's 2 or 3 more around and they're going to attack you; remember, you get ONE counter a turn, unless you're a high enough leveled Warder, and then you can do it unlimited for ONE TURN.

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I miss when elves were fey instead of space alien.
Probably my least favourite lore decision PF made.

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>>51138551

>>51138813

Might be Tyran, might be Marshall. Might be someone who joined a Roll20 campaign they got hyped for only to see it crash to cinder.

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>>51137615
>>51137739
Alright, I still have to do some more digging but I have a general idea, FluffyGM. Dropping the penalty to Strength and making it floating bonuses actually throws the door wide open for some interesting stuff, the only question is what that interesting stuff is.

I'm kinda leaning toward actually going ahead for a gruff Brutal Slayer/Bushi Stalker Kitsune with Realistic Likeness who was looking to settle down after newly arriving in the first world, before the whole "plot" thing happened and got him all wrapped up in shit. I'm kind of six of being a dex/int-fag, and there is nothing stopping a strong ex-merc who is rapidly approaching middle age from being cute. This needs more time to develop, however.

>>51138842

That is not even cool

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>>51138868

>>51138803
First, read this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2-s8weiulPoBQjdI05LBzOUToyoZIdSsLKxHAvf8F8/edit
Then: realize that this costs no resources, and can be done every other turn.
Then you will ether understand the problem or I will know that you have some sort of developmental disability and I'll start being a lot nicer.

>>51138823
>guys this is way 100% more powerfully than anything else in the game
>its fine because you still only take one turn a turn
You do get how this makes everyone else who even tries to do damage obsolete?

>>51138913
Oh no. You're better then a fighter.

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>>51138841

>>51138935
And the bard, and the inquisitor, and anyone who tries to do anything but battlefield controll.

You further divide the caster/martial issue, and PoW martial stay in tier 4.

>>51138946
Bard and Inquisitor are tier 3, because with Inquisitions, Versatile Performance, and spells, they can do something other than kill a monster.

>>51138913
>You do get how this makes everyone else who even tries to do damage obsolete?
Yeah, and damage is always the least effective way to solve problems, both in and out of combat, in pathfinder

And Paizo martials are shit anyway
>inb4 better than the 6th level casters
Which makes sense considering that Martials SHOULD be better at combat than non-martial classes that don't even have decent BAB

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>>51138904

Dont give me that anon. You talk to your group! And us. Mostly us. But the group too!

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>>51138937

>That pic

Oh my god.

>>51138913
>target dies

If the rest of the party are doing their jobs, THEIR target dies as well if they're a damage-dealer.

Overkill or not doesn't matter, the important thing is you took down your target, they took down their target, everything's fine.

>>51138794
I've been agonizing over that decision myself for the last few days. It only got worse when Molthune DM posted saying he had it down to 10 submissions and would make the decision tomorrow.

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>>51138973

I talk to you beautiful people every day, but it doesn't get better.

>party has always taken care to bury their fallen members
>they choose to abandon the corpse of one guy
>leaving it on the top of a tower as a thunderstorm began
time for zombie

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>>51138981
You're a disgusting pervert for looking at her like that, anon. Just look at her face, she's so disappointed in you.

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>>51139009

How about a cutie to make you smile?

>>51139032

You think I care? I'm going to stare at her like I'm staring at that fat-chested Aztec slut you just posted.

>>51139035

That's a real cutie, but I'd rather have a cutie I could princess-carry and tell all my hopes, dreams and ambitions to while we lay in bed together.

>these fucking salty bastards in fluffy2 who didn't get in
What absolute cancer.

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>>51139085

She is not a princess but you can carry her anywhere if you flash a badge and show some authority.

>>51138856
>tfw realizing I will probably not find any kemonomimi art like pic related for this

christ, now I remember why every time I looked at these races I ended up with twinks
and why I tended to avoid those races

>>51139116

>Roleplaying the dutiful guardsman with your bandit girlfriend in the bedroom

A-Anon, please.

I want this, but I'm not ready.

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>>51139130
>forgot my pic

it's gonna be one of those nights isn't it

>>51139145

She wasnt ready either, but you cannot deny what is in your heart. Or your kinks.

>>51139130
Try looking up Mi'qote from Final Fantasy 14.

>>51138960
>>51138969
>meme responses from the bingo board.

>dumping on PoW because it allows optimizers to deal lots of damage (Tier 3 max)
>not recognizing that it allows martials to have something to do other than full attack + one specialization which eats all their feats
Play the game you stupid nerds. Yes PoW has imbalances and flaws but it still makes playing martials bearable.

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>>51139032
Wish I had more of her.

>>51139187
I guess I should probably have specified kitsune kemonomimi in hindsight

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>>51139178

Now I just want to play a dutiful guardsman in deep cover with a bandit party, or a lecherous bandit with his straight-laced guardswoman partner.

>>51139205
>I disagree with it, therefore its a meme
>implying the 105 damage pounce bullshit that gets repeated adnaseum isn't even more of a meme
You are cancer, get your existence treated

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>>51139218

Are we sharing Elves? Because I've got a tickle this picture is right up someone's alley.

>>51139274
Solid elf anon.

>>51139257
Except the 150 damage is actually real, and "lol damage doesn't matter the wizard can fly for 30 minutes" is a really stupid shitty meme from someone who has never tried to design an encounter for players.

>>51139205
>It's on the bingo board, that means you're wrong!
Realize that encounters are not the end all and be all of Pathfinder. You seem to think that dealing more damage means your dick is bigger. You don't seem to realize that after a certain point it's redundant, and technique is what matters.

>>51139239

It is fun. She is just a low level collector/enforcer/recruiter and he is the inquisitor who cannot understand why they remain one step ahead. What started as a job is much more complicated now and she works extra hard to hide her original intentions from him for other reasons now.

>>51139206
I agree here.
I'm a big fan of PoW but I would also readily agree that playing non initiator martials and trying to keep up is very tough.

I was never interested in playing martials before I learned initiating, so I just accept the disparity, discourage non-initiator martials, discourage initiators from spamming boosted full attacks, and run games.

>>51139312
>95% of the rules are about combat, and PoW classes just win combat forever at level 3, but its fine because....
...why? They do it with maneuvers instead of archery. Martials that do nothing but damage are OK as long as DSP makes them?

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>>51139293

I've got lots of solid Elves.

Shame people always seem to go for cute quaint waifs when looking for character art.

>>51139298
And people like you are the reason why Jingasa get nerfed, and by Paizo constantly releases retard errata

Maybe if you didn't design the game like PFS encounters you wouldn't have a problem

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/pfg/, I need some character design help.

A friend is starting up a game set loosely in Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time universe. I'm looking to make an Aiel -- pic related. For anyone unfamiliar, they're a heavily martial culture of desert-dwelling tribes revered / reviled as some of the toughest warriors alive. TLDR: Japanese Apache Celts. Key features would be combat as a mobile skirmisher with spear and buckler, thrown spear, and bow; stealth; and relatively high endurance / survivability with the caveat of little to no armor.

I'm at a little bit of a loss as to where to begin and what I'm shooting for. I've played little to no Pathfinder, but plenty of other 3.x. I'm looking to go fightier than vanilla Rogue -- somewhere in the neighborhood of Ranger seems right, but without the magical nature bits. Where should I be looking for feats / features / etc. for "kills the shit out of things with a spear" and "good enough to not get hit"? 3rd party access is unlikely; it's hard enough passing official Paizo PDFs of books no one physically owns.

>>51139348
>discourage non-initiator martials
That's kind of a shitty attitude. If you're essentially forcing people to play certain classes, aren't you no better than the people who started the problem in the first place by creating the disparity between casters and martials?

>>51139386

I like the cute quaint waifs just as much as these thicker elves.

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>>51139386
Straining the edges of propriety. I have a wide variety in my taste in elves.

>>51139365
It's fine because martials that do nothing but damage are OK. Period. End of sentence.

The fact that a large portion of the rules are about combat doesn't mean that combat is more important, just more nuanced.

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>>51139421

I've got quaint waifs! I just have more of the chesty types.

>>51139348
I'm in the same boat here.
I haven't cared for playing at least mid-casters for a while, and PoW actually made me want to play the melee guy again. It's nice because I have a lot of character ideas for characters with less magic aptitude and more martial prowess and always have to fucking shelve them because "5ft step and full attack or charge" is boring af lads.

And I think that 150 damage in a turn is okay if you can give bosses that level of power as well, and add a bunch of small, semi-threatening mobs as well.

I like to think it's like some Dynasty Warriors or Metal Gear Rising shit.

>>51139386
>Shame people always seem to go for cute quaint waifs when looking for character art.
Maybe that says something about your shit taste.

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>>51139479

Breasts are best! Only lolicons want a flat pair of nubs!

>>51139413
>I'm looking to go fightier than vanilla Rogue -- somewhere in the neighborhood of Ranger seems right, but without the magical nature bits
S L A Y E R
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>>51139206
Fucking this.
Having the CAPABILITY to do all those things is a massive upgrade from
>of course your rogue can fly; just get the wizard to cast fly on you, therefore all rogues have flight!
>you can wear heavy armor! And it will never matter past like level 6 because it does not apply against touch attacks or any of those things that need a save! But that's still a "class ability"!
>2+Int skill points per level should be enough for anybody who cannot cast spells. They have high BAB.

>>51139416
People play classes for two reasons:
1) Specific thematics
2) Specific mechanics

The thematics of most martials can replicated with path of war.
The mechanics of path of war classes are both more enjoyable to play and see in action.
This is especially true when there are initiator archetypes of many of the 1pp martials.

If they don't want to mess with either the initiating subsystem or the caster/psionic/spheres subsystem?
Then play a different game, it's not like they don't have a choice, it's more that the specific one choice they want isn't available.

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>tfw there aren't enough lovely older lasses in RotJR
>tfw it's all cute n' spunky or disillusioned twenty somethings

>>51139498
NEWFACE!
KONGOU DESU!
YOU'VE GOT MAIL!
KONGOU DESU!

Fat titties are for cows!

>>51139559
So put together an app and stop complaining!

>>51139505
Slayer, certain types of Vigilante, Skirmisher Ranger, and weirdly enough nowadays Fighter.

>>51139583
Fat tats are the best, mongrel.
For squishing and playing and jiggling.

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>>51139559
We literally memed about this before, and it resulted in like 3-4 potential characters in the discussion thread, but nobody wants to be a cake, they just want to eat it.

>>51139532
So do you actually *say* that non-PoW martials are not going to be accepted?

I still disagree with the sentiment--you are making a very poor argument by pretending to state objectively why people make certain choices--but I won't dispute that. Unless you're the kind of asshole who just passive-aggressively snubs people for not reading your mind.

>>51139422
Is this inCase?

>>51139652
Looks like it. His faces are very exactly the same distinctive.

>>51139665
That and the bulge.

>>51139632
>Fat lumps
>Looking good in any kind of dress
Fucking pleb

>inb4 "le we'll never wear clothes hahalol xd"
Brutish and unrefined. Unfitting of nobility.

>>51139699
Might be better to not name a specific organization--spoilers and all. It's probably better to write your profile as if you didn't know what was going to happen in the AP.

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>>51139699
>a n o t h e r ameiko-focus protector type character

>>51139422

>futa bulge

>>51139732

>That spoiler
>wanting used goods

>>51139732
It's actually quite liberating to be a titninja.

>>51139708
>He doesn't know about the glory of underbust corsets and the art of getting tits to be perfectly spherical in different forms of clothing
You might be the pleb here, fampai.

>>51139732
Taki's actually one of the oldest characters in the whole roster. Even long about SC2, she's pushing 30, and she's gotta be in her 40s or 50s by 5.

>>51139708
A nice, medium B-C handful on a nice thin frame will fit most wonderfully in a dress. Completely flat kinda ruins the cleavage.

>>51138510
Color Spray and Sleep are 1/day.
Maneuvers are ALL DAY and you've got basically infinite healing out of combat.

>>51139708
>>51139801

Dresses are best worn with a fat pair of D cups, maybe more.

Hello janitors

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>>51139760
Yes

>>51139652
And yes, it is InCase.

>>51139786
>implying that isn't the sure sign of a cheap brothel whore

>>51139801
I completely agree actually, I'm just denouncing anything larger.

>>51139841
>I want to look top heavy and out of proportion!

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>>51139858

>Large breasts are top-heavy and out of proportion

Kek.

>>51139858
If you think an advanced artform originating in the upper echelons of nobility signifies a working woman, then there's no helping you.

>>51138913
All I see are monster average statistics, nothing about how to build for stupidly high pounce damage.
I think you might be retarded and/or autistic.

Then again, we knew that already

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>finally get to play pathfinder after months
>first combat fuck yeah
>Failed rolls, failed rolls everywhere
>The rest of the party is able to damage the enemy
>I fail every single roll I make

>>51139876
>Origins totally mean everything and how it gets used over time means nothing

>>51139637
I'd love to play a cake!

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>>51139872

>>51139505
>>51139614

Thx guys. The more I look at Slayer, the more I like about it. Am I reading correctly that you can finagle your way into Slayer talents, select Rogue and Ranger talents, and Ranger combat styles? That's quite a bit of versatility.

>>51139831
Not sure what you're referring to by infinite out of combat healing but isn't healing out of combat pretty dirt cheap anyway? Anything higher than a Level 1 party can easily just buy a wand of Cure Light and if you buy into the memes here trying to heal while still in combat is for sissies.

>>51139908
>asanagi
uh oh.

>>51139908
That actually does kinda look really out of proportion.

>figure I'll try to start working on a character for fluffy2
>pitch a pretty basic concept, figure I can work on the rest later after doing some more reading on it
>come back a few minutes later to find thread has devolved back to waifus and PoW-related shitflinging

I can't leave you people alone for two minutes

>>51139884

Dont feel discouraged! It cannot rain all the time!

>>51139884
I feel you deeply on this one Anon, God knows the luck my purple die gives me on literally every other session I play in turns its teeth and bites me in the rear in my group's evil session where I'm playing The One build.

I literally had one night where a good 80% of my combat rolls were below 10, and most of the ones above it did pitiful damage since the guy had DR/10 something my arrows didn't have.

>>51139915

Pretty much. Slayer is one of the better made classes imo

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For the next campaign, I was thinking of playing something like pic related, leaning towards the idea of Unchained Monk unless someone convince me with a better alternative.

My only question is what would be the optimized build for this? My first character was a brawler so I have kind of idea how this'll play out but with Monks they usually have some nifty tricks I've seen when fighting them, but overall I'm clueless.

Just asking for help essentially, tips, builds, anything would be nice.

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>>51139953
>applying to fluffy2
>complaining about waifus
What did he mean by this?

>>51139937

Still can't get over >>51139872 is actually really proportional, considering how huge those things are.

>>51139893
>I can vigorously strawman with memearrows

>>51139982

Garou is a 120% Edgelord.

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>>51138913
That link is irrelevant. Explain exactly how to deal 150 damage per round or kill yourself

>>51139984
Ehh, even that looks almost out of proportion, if not for the wider torso she seemingly has. The sleeves definitely help make it feel more normal.

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>>51139962
>IT KEEPS RAINING

what is the source on this (yokai) crap slapped on the end of every Kitsune character sheet i see, and if my understanding of what it modifies is correct, are all these dudes really that afraid of being called a furry?

>>51139983
it's mostly the PoW bitching that gets me, I would have thought that would have petered out by now. The waifus thing is just that it's devolved into the shallowest possible waifu discussion possible of "dude tits lmao".

>>51139831
>1/day
Yeah no. That's exactly the balancing error that leads to the vancian all-or-nothing problem with encounters that makes them such an integral part of rocket-tag.

A level 3 Sorcerer can do it 6 times a day. Likely he's going to set two long duration boosts so he's got 4 left. Each of those can drastically alter an encounter - combat or otherwise - and you average 3 or 4 encounters in a day. If you need something else, you just cast something else instead, as it doesn't have to be those.

Likewise, "ALL DAY" is actually limited in the same way: by how many things you'll encounter that it could be used for.

The infinite healing, that's effectively the same for everyone: Whether you fucking sleep it off and fast-forward the weekend through, or take ten minutes punch-healing everyone with silver-crane, or just walk it off because you've got the boots anyways, it all comes down to "everyone will be topped off after combat". The fact that PoW offers it is not in and of itself a problem, all it does is ensure you're not limited by not also being able to do it, when everyone not-a-martial could do it too. It's a matter of the pacing of the game.

>>51140033

Then stay inside, get comfy and cuddle

>>51140043
>devolved into the shallowest possible waifu discussion possible of "dude tits lmao".
That, witchhunting and the PoW-shitposting are all /pfg/ has been since november or maybe october.

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>>51140022

Therein is the source of how that artwork is surprisingly proportional, even if it shouldn't!

>>51140067

What if he has nobody to cuddle with?

What if I don't have anybody to cuddle with?

>>51140042
Bloodforge: Infusions, and yes, people would prefer to shift between foxes and people, like mythological kitsune, not furries, like 1pp kitsune.

>>51138466
>What are the arguments for and against Path of War being overpowered?
Path of War is overpowered in terms of damage, because its ceiling is ridiculously high. Again though, and this must be stressed, this applies to damage and ONLY to damage.

Path of War generally focuses almost entirely on pure fightan-man, with out of combat utility coming from either mobility powers or a few more widely applicable abilities. Most PoW classes fall squarely on low T3 and the apex of T4.

It's a stupid argument anyway, because it's feeding into the autistic rampage of the same tremendous faggot baiting for easy (You)'s

>>51140080
Then you can die lonely and afraid!

>>51140033
Fatass snowflakes here. Gonna be a good 2 feet to shovel in the morning...

>>51140067
i want to die instead

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And this is why Spheres of might is going the right direction.

From the get go its design goal is

>We want Martials to do more.

So we have Spheres dedicated to doing more out of combat, doing more out of combat, and spheres letting you do things normally reserved for magicians.

>>51140080

I will cuddle!

>>51140108

NO! Not allowed. No way, no how, no can do!

Guys.

I need a character optimized for saves. I mean the best god damn saves I can get. Level 10, paizo only. I am done with these DC 25 save or die spells.

>>51140138
if i can't roll above a 10 whats the point

>>51140089
I maintain that most of the overly high damage comes from early stances giving too much bonus damage die, (like the Primal Fury 3rd one, the 3rd Elemental Flux one and most discs 1st level ones), and that Broken Blade wouldn't be as much of a problem if the multihit strikes came at normal levels, (2nd and 5th, not 1st and 3rd), and the knuckle boosts also being pushed back levels.

Weapon Group Adaptation was a mistake also.

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>>51139908
So tough to tow the line between too lewd for this board...but also a little bit lewd.

>>51140138

I need to warn you about me, anon.

I'm very warm, and will massage out all your aches and sores in under a minute!

>>51140146

More opportunities to RP!

>>51140113
>Stormblood soon
RDM HYPE

I hope to god they fucking fix PLD, MNK, WHM, and casters.

>>51140177

>tfw no chilly cutie to keep warm and massage

Suffering

>>51140113
Meant to say
>doing more in combat, doing more out of combat

>>51140113
Just remember one of the big failures of PoW:

>Strikes can't kill anything
>Full Attacks with Boosts ramp the damage up too fast too early

It's fucking worthless to hit an ork once and maybe have a chance of possibly tripping him if you could just fucking kill it. Something tripped - if it even CAN be - can still murder your friends on its turn. Dead things don't.

A damage dealer's main duty to his party is neutralizing threats, offensively. They have to be able to do this; and things like debuffs,etc are more useful if they're splashed or splattered across others; NOT the one you minced with your attacks. Because the guy's, you know... dead.

>>51140177

>under a minute

I dont bloody think so. You have to last at least an hour.

>>51140183
I just want my Dragoon to stay viable. It's been my favorite FF class since I played Tactics Advanced back in the day.

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>>51140163

>>51140141
Two levels of monk, then get a paladin's Divine Grace.

Already at level 4 you'll have 6/3/6 and charisma to all three.

>>51140141
Half-orc, Sacred Tattoo, Fate's Favored, Paladin 2/Primalist Bloodrager 8, Superstition Rage Power. +2 Luck to all saves, Cha to all saves, +4 s Spells, Supernatural Abilities, and SLAs.

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>>51140216

Oho, if you want the deep stuff than you need only ask, if I work out all the aches than I guess we'll just have to make new ones.

>>51140222
Gods please let me have an FF5 style Blue...

But it'll be cool if Dragoons stay viable. FFXI was sadenning...

>>51140163
>>51140231
God damn son where do you get these?

>>51140208
That's another issue I have with PoW, The non-mobility/non-multihit strikes seem just worse than full attacking for the most part, unless they have a great debuff they can give, like nauseated or something. The other issue I have isn't the damage level they can bring, since that could be actually addressed through errata when? like >>51140153 The issue is that counters warp the encounter design far more than a high damage output ever could.

>>51140222
Piercing debuff and Battle Litany will keep DRG relevant as long as MCH keeps Hypercharge and RDM doesn't also give piercing debuff and more utility.

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>>51140238

>>51140208
So far some cool stuff that I've read from Spheres of Might include stuff like

"Pouncecat pounce grapples charges you. You eat the grapple and roll the pouncecat to a square of your choosing triggering AoOs."

"Running across walls and other parkour stuff"

Also apparently conversion rules for existing NPCS and monsters is being considered in design from day one.

>>51140016
>>51139878
Guys I don't think we'll get an answer. I think he was shitposting, and posted an unrelated doc link in hopes of distracting, obfuscating, and getting heat off of himself.
What a piece of shit

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>>51140259
I've been gathering lewd for years, anon....I have a problem.

These are from an artist named Bacius

>>51140266
I meant as long as RDM doesn't give those things. I'm a retard apparently.

>>51140232
Monk 6 Pal 4 would be 5/5/5 + 4/1/4 + CHA which can probably be +3 by then. That's 12/9/12. Add your resistance bonus, an insight bonus, a luck bonus...

>>51140271
Personally, I can't wait to use it to spring parkour kobold ambushes on players

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>>51140266

I was a playtester for Path of War for months before its original release.

I argued against the ability to freely choose disciplines from other classes. I wanted disciplines and class features to balance against each other like they did when it was just 3 classes.

Now anyone can just grab the strongest disciplines with any character.

>>51139413
Barbarians can work well as Aiel. Refluff the rage as a "martial trance". You need to sneak some way for them to get stealth in there, but otherwise it works.

Slayers also work well.

You could go into the super genius games archetype packages and drop rage & rage powers in exchange for the ranger's scout package or the rogues sneak package.

The Aiel are considerably less about being sneak attackers than they are just being *brutal* hardasses to fight. They're very good at sneaking around, but beyond that they're rather brutal martials who *love* to fight; I cant quite remember how Lan describes them in the books, but they're some of the best infantry / skirmishers out there, capable of foraging well, treking long distances, and they're *great* with bows, spears and knives.

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>>51140293

>>51140341
To be fair though, most people are going to take the Unorthodox Method trait mostly for flavor

I know I usually use it to grab flavorful disciplines like Eternal Guardian or Unquiet Grave for my Knight Disciple and stuff like that

>>51140016
Steel Flurry Strike.

>>51140320
Yeah, thats some good shit right there.

Personally I'm looking forward to a "Rogue" who can actually counter Alarm.

Alarm has less weaknesses than Scry.

>>51140354

50 miles in one day! And 7 feet tall to boot! Not to mention the weakest are easily able to massacre hundreds of the soft wetlanders!

>>51140298
The +2 only applies once. You don't get it for every multiclass you take. So it's 5/5/5+2/1/2, +CHA, or 10/9/10.

Instead go Paladin 2/Destined Primalist Bloodrager 8. That's 3/0/3+4/2/2+3/3/3+3/3/3+4/4/4 vs. Spells+Cloak of Resistance.

>>51140341
I don't have any problem with being to switch out disciplines, the problem is that not all disciplines are created equal. Piercing thunder is just a shitty, boring discipline, so there's no fucking incentive to stick with it when there are other infinitely more interesting and useful disciplines.

>>51140386
Oh no you don't, you sit down and explain, step by step, how a character at 5th level can reliably (RELIABLY, not MAXIMUM) deal 150 damage in a single round. Class, race, attributes, feats, discipline choices, maneuver choices, weapon choices, all of it.

>>51140293
Could you like..save them online somewhere?

Please?

>>51140368
10/10, would be a knight for

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>>51140341
That'd be a much better thing honestly. Besides the poor handling of Broken Blade, the majority of issues likely stem from discipline swaps existing through traditions and trait, and to a lesser extent WGA. Though Primal Fury's static damage on charges should have also been toned down.

>>51140381
I disagree a little. I almost always use it to grab my more favored discs like RH or MC, which are sort of flavorful but not the reason I take them, if we're just talking anecdotal evidence. I think a lot of people use it to trait out the discs that don't do much for their characters, flavor or mechanic wise.

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>>51140194

Sounds like you just need the chance to show how warm your heart is.

>>51140386
>>51140420
To quote a great man, "Buildpost or stoppost."

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>>51140368
Welp! Bed time for me. Been a pleasure doing as I please.

>>51140440
But buildposter isn't a great man, he's just as much of an idiot shitposter as overPoWered

>>51140420
>>51140440
We did like two weeks ago or something. PoWiadrones were defending it. Search the archive yourself. We aren't here to spoon feed you.

Maybe someone else will feed it to you though.

You should see the maximum damage you can do as a non-PoW martial at that level. I bet you won't even break 75.

>>51140471
>It's another "I won't actually give evidence because I don't have any, instead I'll tell you to search the archive were there isn't anything there" episode

It's not spoonfeeding if you're out to prove a point, anon. Or are you just scared someone's going to call your bluff?

>>51140381
In theory yes, but more often I've seen it used to grab Elemental Flux on a character because >Elemental Flux.

What was proposed and shot down super hard was that their be several classifications of Discipline

>Combat style, supernatural, Specialty, and class specific.

Classes would instead have Pick X comabt styles, X supernatural, x spcialty, and you get your class discipline/disciplines.

That way a unique and powerful discipline could be used as a class feature. Additionally it helped keep certain combos in check.

Once agin though, this idea got thrown out because Gareth wanted Martial Traditions and at this point in Path of War 1's development he was the lead.

>>51140420
>>51140440
Not that guy, but it probably is something like Custom 2h Weapon+Bronze Knuckle+Steel Flurry Strike+Weapon Group Adaptation+Power Attack+Powerful Build+Some fuccboi stance like that PF one that ups damage die size.

Where are you critiqueanon? We need you now more than ever.

>>51140397
>>51140354
They had trouble against proper heavy cavalry though, which is why they mostly just avoided them. Or when they saw them everyone pulled out bows and just feathered them with arrows.

They were good at fucking up trollocs too because of their strong skirmishing tactics. Trollocs are bigger and meaner than you - don't try to get close, just feather them with arrows, or stab and retreat.

Against Myrrdral, you stay the fuck away unless you're a super badass, put a hundred arrows in the damn thing.

>>51140414
What you say only applies to fractional advancement. They even outright state that under the fractionals rules the starting saves are fraction + a +2 bonus, which only applies once, and that this will lead to slightly lower saving throws.

Under standard rules it's as I said, always has been.

>>51140440
>someone literally said I was a "great man"
Yea no this is bait.

>>51140471
So you can pull it out from archives easily.

Go on. Do it.

>>51139413
Skirmisher Ranger might help
Heavily archetyped Fighters might also work, and I'm sure other anons will reccomend many other classes

HOWEVER, what is mandatory to get at some point, is you ABSOLUTELY must tkae the Spear Dancing Style feat chain.

How else will you Dance the Spears? If you cannot properly Dance the Spears, then you have no Ji'e'toh, and are no better than a filthy Shaido!

>>51140496
>you need to do all the work of making and comparing builds and then I still won't change my mind because I'm a child.

>>51140536
You seem to be under the mistaken belief that you can make a claim, and then call other people out for calling out your lack of evidence. In the scientific method, if you make a claim you've got to back up yourself with proof; otherwise you're nothing but a crackpot.

>>51140511

>using arrows on a Myrrdral

I thought you cut off its head, waited for it to stop flailing then burned the body with what ever you cut its head off with?

>>51140536
Burden of proof is on the positive claim. You state "this thing can do X", and someone claims they don't believe it, you have to prove X.

It doesn't matter whether X is your deity or 150 damage at level 5. YOU have to prove it, the rest of us do not have to prove a negative.

So how is Dreamscarred Press' Aegis class?

>>51140583
big weapons/10

>>51140556
>>51140573
Fine I'll search the fucking archive.

"150 damage" has like 60 god damn pages...

Fuck you freaks.

>>51140536
I legit thought he was talking about the "150 damage" poster, but he IS the "150 damage" poster!

>>51140589
You realize it has that many hits because you and the other shitposters keep spamming "muh 150 damage" without any proof, right? You're going circular without actually proving anything other than "huurrrr I'm an idiot".

>>51140589
Its your own fault for meming it so hard you stupid asshole

>>51140513
>>51140549
All right, so either we're not using fractional advancement and the Paladin/Bloodrager has another +2 fort, the save against instant death effects, or the Monk/Paladin has -2 to fort and will and the Paladin/Bloodrager has +1 to reflex.

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Anyone have anything fun they want to discuss or share? Did anything awesome or neat happen with your last session?

>>51140506
Thanks, Anon. I'll need to think on this, and compare it to similar builds (size increases tend to get retarded real quick, a design flaw with d20 in general)

So you know how Kobolds have this ability to convert damage taken and convert it into essentially a Mighty Blow's worth of distance?

What would happen if we just made that a feature of the rules as a whole? Because honestly despite the rules of PF saying otherwise I don't see what's stopping a human from swatting a Fairy into a tree or the average Huge sized bipedal creature from punting a human over a house.

>>51140655
refer to
>>51139884

>>51140655

We killed a water elemental. Did a lot of RP. Poked fun at each other. I had a lot of fun. Not sure if that is being deprived of a game for so long or just the nature of the game.

>>51140562
If you had anyone compitent enough to do that, sure. 9/10 Warriors die trying to fight a Myrrdral. The safer option is just to put arrows in its everything, then burn it where it lies.

There's a reason why Borderlanders and Aiel alike respect the shit out of those who earn themselves the title of "Dreadbane".

>>51140655
The parkour chase in Edge of Anarchy went off without a hitch--our rogue was the MVP, but thankfully splitting the party actually worked in our favor due to her being stationed on an adjacent roof to Trinia's building so that she could watch for anything suspicious.

>>51140655
Last session was canceled do to one of the players being waay too tired
So instead the DM helped me make a character for our upcoming 5e game!
Luckily our game will start back up this weekend

>>51140655
Half the party died to a basilisk. We really need stone to flesh.

>>51140675
A quick look would be that it'd do something like 30d6+18+4.5 STR+Other things like weapon enhancement or class feature bonuses to attack. All of which passes DR due to knuckle boost.

Even with a STR of 18 and a +1 weapon, that's like 144 damage. He's not that far off. And it only consumes a strike and a boost.

Again I want to reiterate my feelings with >>51140153

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>>51140573
>>51140589
>>51140598
>>51140615
>>51140750

I can give this a try as a 25 point buy, 5th-level dreige or half giant warder (ordained defender, zweihander sentinel) 4/stalker (brutal slayer) 1.

They will be using a rather high initiative bonus, a Large-sized custom monk weapon, Martial Charge, Primal Warrior Stance, Reflected Blade Style, and Steel Flurry Strike to try to take out two high-CR enemies at the start of combat.

Please watch warmly until it is ready.

>>51140588
Aight
So I'm in a gestalt game running Warder/Oracle, as primary tank/secondary healer/ tertiary whatever-the-fuck-I-want-to-be.
Considering I generally rely on a high AC and defenses with heavy armor and a shield, should I dip into Aegis at some point, or stick with what I got?

>>51140765
is it just me or is everyone OD/ZS nowadays?

>>51140726
>Dreadbane

I totally forgot about that. Some hardcore shit. I always hated how everyone in the south didnt even believe in trollocs and whatnot though.

>>51140765
I could have sworn that broken blade was used...

I do know that it needed a full turn to "recharge" the attack, so it could only do it every other turn.

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>>51140655
>nothing exciting has been happening in the weekly game I'm in, and I'm realizing I'm not too happy with my character
>mfw can't trade him out for anything else because I accidentally got him integral to the plot
>mfw the other game I'm in that I'm excited to play in has been kill for weeks
>mfw the guy that wanted to do a 1-on-1 run of RotRL with me is never on anymore, though there's no love lost since I wiped once due to poor rolls and didn't like retconning that.

>>51140796

>you mean I can play a Big SMART Fighter?!

Pretty much. Plus you get the added flavor of holy warrior without alignment restrictions.

>>51140798
>I always hated how everyone in the south didnt even believe in trollocs and whatnot though.
Well, have you ever seen a Trolloc? Have they EVER affected some aspect of your life? Can something so horrible and evil and ugly even possibly exist?

Obviously those things are legends the merchents sell and parents tell their kids to scare them into going to bed at night!

>>51140765
See this is good. THIS is something actually useful, because it's hard evidence with sources and citations rather than "lol150somuchdamage". Thanks 2hu.

>>51140799
And fuck you, if you can't even remember what you're memeing about.

>>51140799
It only takes a full turn to "recharge" because you're likely just recharging your boosts and stances to get that ONE combo maneuver/boost back again.

Essentially all of this is hedging on the fact that you're looking to be a major autist who only does one thing every other round because it mega-hyper-overkills the enemy.

>>51140839
Agreed. It can also let us see just HOW optimized things have to get. The meme always basically implies it's easy as fuck, just gotta pick the right book; but sometimes it's some left-field situational-as-all-fuck thing that'll be useless in practice, too.

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I need suggestions for a Dread Vampire's ultimate weakness. The thing that stops him from coming back after he's been killed in battle or left out in the sun until he's ash.

I'm thinking something inspired by the original myths; burying him upside down, mixing his ashes with soil from his homeland and sanctifying it, etc.

>>51138466
For: A lot of customization available to do a variety of fun things in and out of combat
Against: If your players are assholes, which they might be, they'll break your game with 40+ stealth checks, insane damage, and various other shenanigans.

People in /pfg/ tend towards extremes, and will typically try to use things to their full potential, regardless of how obnoxious it would be in real life. Any competent player can see the broken shit and choose to tone it down or avoid using it.

>>51140838

It just struck me as odd that the boarderlands have laws like not being allowed to wear a hood or cover your face because darkspawn are so prolific but the south doesnt even believe in them. Maybe my sense of proportion is off on the map key.

>>51140853
>oh look you might prove me wrong?
>I will move the goalposts and call you an autist

>>51140798
To be fair, there's almost a canada sized distance between the south and the north of WoT-verse. I believe the distance from the easternmost point to westernmost "spine of the world" is something like 3000 miles.

"A reliable way of measuring the maps was produced in the novel New Spring, which gave the straight-line distance from Tar Valon to the sea south of Tear as 400 leagues (1,600 miles). Additionally, Caemlyn is roughly 800 miles north of the plains at the border of Tear, thereby providing a scale of approximately 530 miles to 1 inch for the maps provided in the paperback editions (Lord of Chaos)."

http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Randland

>>51140790
Well, with Student of the Astral Suit you can get +4 levels of customization points, so it's eminently dippable.

As for tank stuff, it means you can easily get some combination of fortification, energy resistance, evasion, etc, and more importantly, swap it all out each day.

It's not really a cohesive class by itself, though, other than being "magic Iron Man I guess". Whether you like it will come down to the customizations for the suit.

>>51140871
Taking ashes from his head, torso, stomach, both arms, and both legs, and blessing each of them with water from seven separate holy springs.

>>51140765
RBS is probably better damage, but it really isn't something you'd need to do a crazy build for.

>Race gives Powerful Build
>Class is an initiator that has full BAB, Access to Primal Fury and Broken Blade, preferably like Warder for the Full Round recovery
>GM retarded enough to allow a large custom 2h monk 2d6 weapon
>Power Attack
>18-20 Base STR
>Primal Warrior Stance
>Steel Flurry Strike standard action strike
>Bronze Knuckle swift action boost
>Move action to get into position
>Next turn Full Round Recover
Three attacks doing 5d6+12 is every other turn, getting a move action on that turn, and the off-turn is defensive focus.

Anyone of these options is strong on it's own, and they get retarded. Most of these would see normal use, outside of anti-PoW sentiments making PF and BB taboo and custom weapons being a fucking retarded option. Even if you can't custom weapon, using a feat for WGA to add heavy blades to BB would get the same result.

>>51140871

>Hang him at dawn with a silver rope/stake in his heart!
>wrapping him in silver chains, draining him with leeches, then cutting off his head
>cut off his head, steak in his heart (removed from chest) and both dropped into the ocean
>coffin burned at noon while he watches, followed by decapitation and steaking

>>51140896

That is quite the distance. That makes more sense.

>>51140871
Decap, bury upside down clutching his own severed head, coat the whole corpse in salt, with the coffin made from the wood of a willow or ash tree grown near a church, and then vigorously sprinkle the area with holy water.

>>51140884
>>51140896
530miles to 1 inch for maps in paperback. With mostly only horse based travel inland; and not a lot of opportunity for people to move about because they're doing medieval agriculture.

>>51140888
I'm that anon, but I'm not even one of the guys who's been responding to you and I have to say that if your takeaway from PoW is "this one combination of things is crazy overpowered when I do X, Y, and Z that if I pulled in real life would likely make any reasonable DM pull me aside for powergaming" then you're kind of missing the point of the system, dude. PoW is all about having a VARIETY OF OPTIONS for martials, and cheesing the system by picking one thing and only doing that thing is, in fact, incredibly autistic.

It's like doing a speedrun in a video game using only a hacking device that inputs every command perfectly, sure you "technically" did it but aside from the neat spectacle nobody is going to be impressed in the long run.

>>51140871
Stake him to a rock beneath a waterfall

>>51140985
Hey man, don't knock TASing, it takes a lot of effort and some of them are quite impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_N3LWaoCEg for example.

>>51140926
OH WAIT I FORGOT THE +2 DAMAGE WHEN USING FUCKING BROKEN BLADE.

Yeah, that easily hits 150 every other round. And I forgot the bonus die from Steel and Bronze, which is another (non-critting) 5d6. bringing it to something like three attacks doing 5d6+5d6+15 and ignoring DR, for an average damage of exactly 150 with a STR of 18 and a +1 weapon. Similar result with 20 STR and only a MW weapon.

Elemental stance + steel flury strike is three attacks, on a charge, with +5d6 each.

I think there was more. Something about getting STR multiple times to each hit.

Maybe momentum crash was inclueded. I'm still missing something.

It was a greatsword I think, so your attacks are:

+?/+?/+? for 7d6 + Power attack + 1.5 str.

I think there were 5 attacks in total. Haste + something else?

>>51141026
OR THAT.

I guess Fighters are OP because autism fighter exists.

>>51141022
True, but for a tabletop game, it's basically sounding like anyone who would actually use a combo like that is more interested in telling their GM
>ok i pushed the i win button, gibe xp n bitches now plz
rather than
>Alright, I'll charge the big guy and take him out so my teammates can focus on other things--I rush in with a mighty war cry!

>>51141022
Oh yeah no don't get me wrong TAS stuff is the butter to my speedrunning bread, but imagine trying to bring a TASbot into GamesDoneQuick (going live now!) and hooking up the bot to the system with the intent of showcasing your skills.

Sure since you have to have inputted all of the original commands you technically "did" that, but literally all you have to put in is an ungodly amount of time testing out inputs to get those to finally work. Wwhich is impressive, true! But it's not manual speedrunning.

What are some of the best, albeit mechanically useless, Craft skills?

I want to go for maximum unf~ factor!

>>51141042
The one I linked just requires a third and second level maneuver, third level stance, Power Attack, WGA, and being a half-giant/dreige warder, not even ZS or OD, though both would be beneficial for other things. Taking coversion inquisition would let you get mad socials too for next to nothing.

It's not even particularly limiting, beyond the race selection. And the WGA feat can be waived if custom weapons are on the table.

Nobody should ever do this and if you do you should feel really bad about yourself or at least be a chinese warlord or some shit.

>>51141106
Craft (Leatherworking)
Collars, bondage straps, and hot armor for the party rogue to embrace her tittyninja destiny.

>>51141142

>Implying the titty ninja doesn't need Craft (Clothes) for a tight-fitting elastic bodysuit that shows off every curve in lewd detail

>>51140655
Lars (spelling?) Rovanky is about to pick up a level in Brawler!

We're also getting some downtime before switching to Jade Regent, and our Wizard is showing off by summoning Earth Elementals for me to face off against in the center of town.

>>51141142

>Paladin asks for a charity belt
>She insists it's to keep her virtue protected from the myriad of beasts that might want to conquer it
>As of late however she seems to be getting more and more restless, fighting with greater abandon and getting awfully cozy with you
>There's only one key to the belt, and you have it

>>51141166
I figure the leather works well enough for that purpose.
Plus, if you've got enough ranks in it, you can probably put a few buckles or latchew somewhere on that armor, that with a few quick pulls, will leave you with a hogtied rogue qt.

>>51140926
Well that's what, 90 damage every other turn if everything hits?

a powerful opener, but afterwards your effective DPR drops to less than is needed to take out equal levels if you're recovering.

either way, that's no 150.

>>51141219
This man gets it.

I never realized how badly I've wanted a Kingmaker campaign using /pfg/ rules until now.

I neeeeeed it! Best parts of comfy, Kurwa and culture all in one!