Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1276: Everpresent Feeling Edition

>>51113605
Could you create other magics with the First magic? Books of the Second - Fifth magics?

Fukken bandwagoners.

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>>51113878
Given enough time to train and experiment you can replicate the effects through applied use of the first. Just not the fourth because intrinsic opposites don't mesh and to give some reason to choose something else.

>>51113921
Blame the playlist. It came on while browsing the pdf as thread died.

>>51113860
>Everpresent Feeling
what's that mean?

>>51113860
The ever present feeling.
Of Tohsaka's anus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1DEvzsftw

>>51113921
Try using your big boy words to express your feelings. I believe in you. You can do it.

>SOULs other than your own and those of your companions cannot be taken outside of the Undertale jump. No ifs, ands, or buts.

That sucks. I wanted to companion my headcanon Chara. Any suggestions on how to do this, or is it impossible?

Also, would I be able to save & load with enough determination, for the duration of the jump? I know you can't take it with you in any way, but it would be neat to have in-jump, at least until frisk comes along.

>>51113967
FUKKEN

BANDWAGONERS

>>51113975
>is it impossible?
It's impossible, mainly because arbitrary restrictions are Digger's and Brow's fetish.

>>51113989
Now now. An increase in volume won't help anything. Try using complete sentences.

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>>51112212
>If for some reason I would allow you to make Fetichs without either the other perk or the charm, I would have to reduce Descending Hierarchy to only 6 demons. I'm not handing out more demons than the fucking Holy Tyrant.
The thing is, it should let you have more demon then the Holy Tyrant depending on the charms you get, because the Hohy Tyrant does not have any Perks, just charms. You have access to both.

You assume no other Yozi has Pantheon Expanders besides Malfeas, and thus only have 15 3rd circles or less. That was never stated. Only that Malfeas had the most, and was the only one with two fetishes. I assumed other Yozi would have more then Will power + compassion because of logically inferred charms.

Like the Silent wind could have one branching off of Freedom Lets Go that lets her target up to Temperance intimacies granted by a 3rd circle soul, by letting go of those intimacies that 3rd circles motivation no longer influences her, and the 3rd circle no longer counts against the limit of Willpower+Compassion 3rd circle demons she may have, letting her have up to 20 if the willpower and virtues are maxed out.

All be know is the Ebon Dragon who will not even have more then one Jotun in case he betrays himself has the minimum, and Malfeas has the most.

The perk should just increase your limit by 8, regardless of going over 23 or not, because they are not actually canonically capped at 15 without it.

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>>51113989

>>51113989
I don't get it.

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>>51113957

>>51114049
Everybody's talking about the Nasuverse since Valeria is developing her Fate/stay Night jump.

The title of the thread "Everpresent feeling" is a reference to Fate..

Thread discussion will inevitably focus on the current hot jump, Fate S/N is currently the jump we are focusing on.

>>51114082
Better than Exalted. So enjoy it while it lasts.

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>sidereals can shoot people with 'actual' finger guns
neat

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>>51113975
> Any suggestions on how to do this, or is it impossible?
Well, you could always go to Floweytale.
You could give Chara a body of some sort and then pod them.

> Also, would I be able to save & load with enough determination, for the duration of the jump?
I personally fanwank that that's actually possible, but there's no in-jump purchases that grant that option.
Rather, you have to gain the Determination necessary manually (which is an actual, metaphysically physical thing, not just "willpower"), which then loses that power after the jump, because no other world has the lock that Determination keys into.
But, if you want to do that, there are six SOULs already in the underground, and grabbing the six of those allowed Flowey to jack control of the timeline again, so...

Speaking about Fate S/N do I have to kill all masters and servants to win the war? Is there no other way?

>>51114123
Yeah, Sidereals have fun charms. My favorite is Neighborhood Relocation Practice. It goes exactly what it says on the label, lets you take geographical features and move them around.

>>51114196
You could just ignore the wish, it isn't an all powerful one and you have to wait till post spark to get it.

>>51114228
Won't other participants try to kill you?

>>51114247
Yes but with the right purchases, OOC stuff, and/or some preparation to deal with Gil there isn't much that can threaten you.

Taking EX God Hand and killing the prisoners in the church basement means there is very little in the setting that can hurt you, none of whom are likely to have a reason to.

>>51113957
>>51114079
No its not, but it is gritty.

>>51114195
>Well, you could always go to Floweytale.
I don't even need to go floweytale, I need just need to have enough DETERMINATION that chara's soul bonds with mine after I fall into the underground. I was just stymied by the jump saying that you couldn't take SOULs with you. But you're right, giving her a body and then podding her should work.

>But, if you want to do that, there are six SOULs already in the underground, and grabbing the six of those allowed Flowey to jack control of the timeline again, so...

No thank you, I don't wanna fail like flowey. I don't think the SOULs would appreciate me absorbing them just to have some fun. But as there's no harm in fanwanking it being possible, I think I'll just do that. It's gonna be fun.

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>>51114042
>The thing is, it should let you have more demon then the Holy Tyrant depending on the charms you get, because the Hohy Tyrant does not have any Perks, just charms. You have access to both.
Except those are all Essence 10 custom charms. Which are banned for you.

So, no.

>You assume no other Yozi has Pantheon Expanders besides Malfeas, and thus only have 15 3rd circles or less. That was never stated. Only that Malfeas had the most, and was the only one with two fetishes.
I did not assume that. It is outright stated the Malfeas-That-Was had 23 souls and he was the one with the most.

The others have anywhere between 12 and 23. Adorjan has 20, Oramus has at least 21, and She Who Lives has the average.

>The perk should just increase your limit by 8...
It does. It increases your limit by 8. to the limit of all Primordials at 23. Where they canonically ARE capped.

>>51114123
It's awesome, yes.

>>51113975
Take Morph Creation from Fire Emblem Elibe, that perk explicitly allows you to create bodies for companions that don't have one.

My fetish is shelling my own jumps at people

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>>51114123

Where do start with Fate waifus?

>>51114196
All servants really, technically if you kill all the masters that could work, even if no servants have been killed, but you don't have to kill all of both sets.

>>51114399
All the saber clones, especially Nero and Lancer Artoria.

>>51113975
Use a Pod yo. That's companion enough.

>>51114399
>go to EVO
>waifu Gaia
>go to *Fate
>Servant Gaia
>>Stack multiple appearance perks
Congratulations, you've just won the Fate waifu wars

>>51113655
>Actually, can we use First magic to create the nonexistence of something?
This would be summoning Exalted/WoD Oblivion to your location.

>>51114123
Probably the best reason to buy the gun and drive charm perk.

>>51114195
What if I made an artificial SOUL like Yorokonde did in his write up? Could I take that one with me?

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>>51114342
>Except those are all Essence 10 custom charms. Which are banned for you.
>So, no.
Oh, and they require Pantheon Unfurling anyway. So you'd need to abandon your Exaltation and become a Yozi-clone to access them.

Which is a terrible idea.

>>51114432
Can't summon gods outside of weird circumstances in Extra and GO.

>>51114399
Rin>=Saber>Rider>Taiga>Caster>Uryuu Ryunosuke's headless corpse>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sakura Matou

I haven't even touched Grand Order, so I don't know squat about its waifus. Though Shielder seems pretty on the level.

>>51114484
You can import your companions as Servants.

>>51114490
Sounds about right, to me. Good on you, Red.

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>>51114343
Even better, the more love, care, and quintessence you put into this the better the resulting body will be.

My fetish is making such companions inhabit the bodies of characters from other popular works for my own amusement.

>>51114399
In the celtic land of shadows.

>>51114432
Gaia is top tier, but she's the spirit of the earth from EVO. Not every and all earths you come across. Albeit it would make for amusing interactions between the one loyal to you and the one who hates humans.

>>51114490
I generally support things that assblast you, you know, like your uncle, so I support this price point.

>>51114490
We. are. not. falling. for. this. again.

Get it through your thick head. It worked once, never again.

>>51114342
Speaking of high essence custom charms and I apologize if this was just asked in the last thread, but does the non existant yozi we come up with as a devil tiger still have all those high essence charms and we just can't get them?
Because it would be wierd to have an otherwise incomplete Yozi even if it's understandable that we couldn't use those charms until post spark.
Really I've just been wondering about <Yozi> Essence Eternal because how the fuck a primordial would even function without it and everything it's a prerequisite for is confusion.

>>51114541
>In the celtic land of shadows.
She is the best looking servant, IMO. If she had more personality I'd consider waifuing her. As it stands, I'll just base EVO!Servant Gaia off of her.

Thanks, anon, savin' the fuck outta that pic.

>>51114490
Nice to see you're still trying to stir up drama, ultima333_.

Or is it mib_nxrdo9.

God knows that despite Red "banning" everybody who disagrees with her there's apparently room for disagreement such that your ass still hasn't been permanently removed.

>>51114495
>Not Taiga>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else
Terrible taste
Why wouldn't you want the fun and sexy lady who can actually hold down a job.

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>>51114490

>>51114490
Wow, only 600? That's surprisingly cheap.

>>51114541
Gaia likes humans. NAture reformed to be cooler for humans. She'll only start hating them when they outlive her death.

Any reason to pick up both God Hand and Magic Resistance?

>>51114342
>>51111380
>>51113510

1. It would be fairly big as my Jumper is fairly big, but it would use its witch of space powers to fit in and On Smaller Stuff by manipulating its personal Topography/Spatial relations.

1A. I was imagining intimacies towards durability, warmth, coziness,stationary active defense/ area denial, and protection of others.

2.I don't mind him still being connected to Me , I I've worn that guy around a lot, But were both tired of him being part of the chorus.
2A. i was imagining he would keep his intimacys Towards strategy,Justice, Armour,transformation,war and giant robots.

>>51111221
200 points sounds fine.

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>>51114196
IIRC, you only have to kill the servants to win. No master death is necessary, but they're easier to kill than servants so they're the obvious target.

In theory if you could disrupt the grail war so that even if everyone died, it would generate insufficient mana to summon the grail they'd have to call the whole thing off and wait another 60 years for the next one.
You might want to get a second opinion on that, though.

>>51114343
>pic

>>51114638
More magic resistance of course.

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>>51114322
I mean, if you want alternative methods, there is such a thing as the Determination Extractor. You could just take it from the SOULs, or Flowey, or Frisk. Although that would probably kill Flowey if you drained them completely, and who knows if the Extractor in the True Lab even has a setting other than "drain it completely"?
There are other humans above ground, and a sufficiently advanced jumper could probably find a way up there even without breaking the barrier. Like, portals or something.

Or, if you want to be really benign and cheesy, Alphys apparently had a supply of Determination she ran experiments with, and while it's unknown how much (if any?) she had left, if she did and you had any way to duplicate items (like Minecraft's Cheat Mode or the Wondrous Pixel Transmogrifier), you could just take that and duplicate it for as many times as you needed it for.

I may have thought of this before this conversation. Extensively.

Anyway, have fun, anon.

>>51114479
I don't think I read that write-up.

Also, I'm not really in charge of the jump, so I can't make an official call on it. So watch me try anyway, because I'm a putz.
I guess personally I would say "if you figured out how to do so in a way that you don't need to be in the jump to make it; also, it wouldn't do anything other than be a powerful SOUL, because it's that universe that has the SAVE/LOAD mechanic, the SOULs are only the key to unlocking it. Key and lock."

>>51114638
God Hand only negates "attacks" other magic/magecraft would not be negated.

>>51114490
>So you'd need to abandon your Exaltation and become a Yozi-clone to access them.
I think that 600 CP is the cost in the Marvel EMH jump. That is part of the scientist line, so maybe reds just does not fit in a background?

>>51114565
They don't have any charms until you make them. Their notional existence is just to let you make charms with new themes, they're not literally a Yozi that doesn't exist that you've somehow gotten access to in defiance of logic. It has no charms of its own, because it's really an extension of your own Exaltation. So it's not "incomplete", because it was never meant to be a real Yozi.

That said, it is possible to learn (Yozi) Cosmic Principle and its descendant charms for a Devil-Tiger. The Devil-Tiger that created that charm set can't do it themselves, because going Devil-Tiger locks you off that path, but another Infernal could do it if they inherited your Exaltation after you died.

>>51114638
>picking up God Hand
Git Gud scrub.

>>51114672
It was in the last thread. Worth the read, if a little self indulgent. That does sound like a good theory to run with though. Wasn't really trying to get SAVE/LOAD powers, just take a SOUL out with me to use later.

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>>51113975
Resurrection Magic.

>>51114123
Sidereals are cool as fuck.

>>51114399
In FSN specifically?
Taiga>Rider(Medusa)>Ilya>Caster(Medea)>Saber>Rin=Sakura.
Other Fate stuff has more waifus who fall elsewhere on the list.
Mordred is Best Saber, but Mordred is for Daughteruing not Waifuing.

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>>51114565
>Speaking of high essence custom charms and I apologize if this was just asked in the last thread, but does the non existant yozi we come up with as a devil tiger still have all those high essence charms and we just can't get them?
Because it would be wierd to have an otherwise incomplete Yozi even if it's understandable that we couldn't use those charms until post spark.
Yes. Or at least, it has those in potential, since as a Devil Tiger you need to develop them from nothing.

>Really I've just been wondering about <Yozi> Essence Eternal because how the fuck a primordial would even function without it and everything it's a prerequisite for is confusion.
Incidentally, I don't consider <Yozi> Yozi-Body Unity, <Yozi> Eternal Essence, <Yozi> Cosmic Principle, and the other 'generic' Charms to be "custom". Seeing as they would basically be the same accross different Yozi, with small differences.

So you could just learn Eternal Essence.


...Eternal Essence is not actually a prereg for anything though? Cosmic Principle works of the Excellency, and doesn't require it.

>>51114591
No, it's Guest18497. Ultima's good, and afaik mib is good too.

>>51114740
I have enough things I need to git gud at already.

>>51114777
Fuck it.

Ban everyone from the IRC, tear it down, and redo it.

>>51114390
Cranked was a fun movie.

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Alright, so. Someone asked for these, so here's all three of my Write!Jumper chapters. Meanwhile I'm going to see if bludgeoning my head against my desk will help me sleep better. Yall have fun.

http://pastebin.com/EFGCyaMy

So what are the most unique settings in Jumpchain? Things that aren't just generic fantasy world 73 or generic space opera 991, but are unlike anything else in the chain?

On a related note, are there any unique setting types we don't have yet? Or any less unique ones we don't see enough of?

>>51114773
Well it's nice to know that the generic charms won't be custom.
It would have bothered me a bit to have to use the Ebon Dragons version of the charm instead of my own even though they're functionally identicle.

Also I guess I remembered Eternal Essence wrong, for some reason I thought it was a pre req for Cosmic Principle.

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>>51114428
>Lancer Artoria
Yet more proof that dragon > robut.

>>51114816
Nice try, Guest18497 aka the shitposter. Thanks for helping us rat you out.

>>51114831
Paper Mario and Charles Barkley Shut up and Jam Gaiden.
There really isn't anything else like them out there.

>>51114740
Pick up God Hand+K&K+Dragon Heart with the pseudo servant boost+Prana Burst
"I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE!"

>>51114829

Bodacious Beds

>>51114847
What in the fuck is going on with her tits? Or tit, I suppose. Is she an amazon?

>>51114831
i don't think that we have any biopunk jumps, so twig would make a unique jump.

I would like to make the jump, but I've never made a jump before.

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>>51114773
>...Eternal Essence is not actually a prereg for anything though? Cosmic Principle works of the Excellency, and doesn't require it.
Oh wait. Worldshaper Assumption does need it, even if Cosmic Principle doesn't...

Nevermind. Point was that it's not /that/ integral to Primordialhood.

>>51114837
>Well it's nice to know that the generic charms won't be custom.
>It would have bothered me a bit to have to use the Ebon Dragons version of the charm instead of my own even though they're functionally identicle.
Yeah... I'd prefer my own too.

Or SWLiHN/Adorjan's I guess. Or really anything that isn't the Ebon Dragon.

I 'd take his disguise charms, and that's about it. /Maybe/ the escape/fate-rending stuff too.

>Also I guess I remembered Eternal Essence wrong, for some reason I thought it was a pre req for Cosmic Principle.
Yeah, I was wrong too. But see the above.

>>51114916
It's just an awkward angle portraying her very pointy armor. There are a normal pair of breasts somewhere inside that wedge she's strapped to her chest.

>>51114916
The lance, quoting Nasu here, improved her physiology on the upper half via taking muscle from the lower half.

And that's how an artist's shit job at proportions and anatomy was justified.

>>51114847
That lance looks vaguely similar to Ea

>>51114916
It's armor bro, that covers both tits without being boob plate.

>>51114773
What does Eternal Essence do? Give you an unending supply of the stuff?

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>>51114916
Her art is shit. Here's a more normal one.

So what happens to EMIYA if I summon a Companion in as an Archer?

>>51114989
The tiny-saber on her shoulder is distracting as hell.

>>51114979
You know in Undertale how Frisk does the whole "but it refused bit?"
It's basically that, but you stay at 1hp and can still get permakilled by things that permakill spirits.
It also just so happens to make sure you become a ghost if you did manage to die anyways, which is nice in a way.

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>>51114847
If cherry picking makes you feel good about yourself, dragons layer, then more power to you.

But don't call me until you're ready for the main course.

>>51115000
He isn't summoned. Your Servant replaces the Canon Servant of their class.
Which is why I imported Mordred as Jumper, so that I can give everyone their happy ending.

>>51114979
No, it makes you immortal. If you have (Yozi) Eternal Essence you can only be killed by attacks that can destroy souls, and even then you just turn into a Neverborn (and get trapped in a torturous tomb-planet orbiting the void for eternity, so not really all that better, but still) instead of true death. You can be horrendously maimed, but your last health level will never empty.

>>51114979
No, it basically makes you immortal.

>The (Yozi) cannot be killed by mere injury. If lethal or aggravated damage would reduce him below his last Incapacitated level, it is not applied, nor may an effect slay him outright. Effects that can permanently kill spirits bypass this protection and transform his Essence into a ghost (or Neverborn, if he knows Ebon Dragon Cosmic Principle).

In-setting, only the Exalted can kill you with this. Nothing else has the spirit-killing magic.

>>51115000
Rin Tohsaka summons Assassin instead.

Whether this means Assassin EMIYA or not, no idea.

>>51115051
>>51115057
Woah, and we can use this without Cosmic Principle?

>>51115051
You only turn into a neverborn if you have cosmic principle too, if you dont' have it you just turn into a ghost.

>>51115004
>not wanting a tiny-saber companion
Pfft. And you call yourself a harem waifuist.

>>51114972
That's Ron.
It's some crazy shit.


Rhongomynyad - The Spear that Shines at the End of the World
Rank: A++
Type: Anti-Fort
Holy spear. Also known as Ron.*
Regarded in the same light as the Holy Lance Longinus that pierced the messiah, around the 1st Century AD.
When releasing the True Name, both Rank and classification change.

Originally, this holy spear is the "pillar of light" that fasten together the two sides of the world (reality and illusions) itself, and it has been said that, in the unlikely event that this is undone, reality will be tear off from the world.
Being the "king" that stood at the final moments of illusion and the Age of Gods, she possesses this holy spear that conceals such tremendous power.

By releasing the True Name, the holy spear will emit a fragment of the power of the light that shines in the far away.
In order to perform this release of the True Name, there is a need to lift at least half of a total of thirteen restrains. Supposedly such property is equivalent to that of the "holy sword of the star that saves the world".

>>51115082
Yeah, I realized right after I submitted my post that I had misread the charm text.

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>>51115057
Is it possible to learn without becoming a yozi-clone?

>>51115080
Ye. It doesn't stop you from getting knocked the fuck out by bashing damage and incredible pain though.
There's are however other charms for that

>>51115093
Counterpoint- All Sabers, except for the two Lancers, are Tiny.

Second Counterpoint- I have Mordred, Best Saber, as a companion. But she's a Daughteru.

>>51115094
Ron is fucking amazing.

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>>51115080
Yup. Just need to get to Essence 7 and get the prerequisites.

The prereqs aren't bad either. An Excellency (which you WILL have anyway) and a charm (and upgrade) that allows you to exist in a state between material and immaterial, and removing your need for sustenance, air, sleep, makes you immune to non-magical disease, and lets you hear prayers to you from any realm of existence.

>>51115109
Very much so. See the above.

>>51114625
That's not true at all. She quarantined all those things so they'd still exist in some way despite humans. The only part of Gaia that likes humans is Alaya, which is basically her split personality that's based on human collective will. The Gaia side still despises humans utterly. That's why she creates shit like the Gods, the True Ancestors, and Primate Murder.

>>51115134
>Counterpoint- All Sabers, except for the two Lancers, are Tiny.
This is incorrect. Those sabers are flat and short. A Tiny Saber(tm) could ride on your shoulder and do all manner of helpful things.

Is the Fate S/N Dub any good?

>>51115177
Try the German dub, it's one of the best.

>>51115094
Well, based on that, I'll assume that destroying it is bad.

Jeez, how many things am I not allow to destroy in the Nasuverse? Damn it, how am I supposed to keep track of all this crap while I'm swinging Ragna Blade around? Why does this universe have to be so complicated?

>>51115134
And it could be yours for the low low price of 450 CP.
You to could unfasten reality and destroy all human hope by accident.
>>51115163
I don't think you get this man. Modern humans can breathe without catching fire and physics are constant. That wasn't true in the AoG
The World warped so that humans could survive on it because Gaia is mostly chill with them. It freaks out when they survive the death of nature and sends a phone call to space for shit to murder them.
I mean primate murder is a fluffy dog that hangs out in Chaelda.

>>51115080
>>51115109
Yes. It's prerequisite is two purchases of (Yozi) Yozi-Body Unity, not (Yozi) Cosmic Principle. (Yozi) Yozi-Body Unity and (Yozi) Eternal Essence are the only two Yozi-tier charms that don't require (Yozi) Cosmic Principle, and are therefore available to Infernals. Taken together they make you an immortal pseudo-spirit that has no physical needs, can determine whether it's incorporeal or corporeal on an individual-action basis (meaning that even without (Yozi) Essence Eternal, you're untouchable to most attacks) and can hear any prayer directed to them, not matter where it comes from. That last one is especially useful with Cecylene's charms that let her act in response to hearing prayers to her.

>>51115172
Fair enough

>>51114935
Too bad everything except the escape charms require you to take a charm that forces you to lie and connive like the Ebon Dragon does as a prerequisite.

>>51115159
Huh. I thought Infernals were kinda meh.

Didn't know I could use it to make myself and my companions near completely immortal without even reaching the highest levels.

Damn, I'm going to have to learn about it now.

>>51115177
>types in english
>>51115189
>suggests german dub

Can someone explain a bit of the history of how this came about? I read somewhere that Quicksilver made the first couple of jumps, but now they hate it or something?

>>51115233
It doesn't force you to, it just makes you really bad at not lying.

>>51115253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2CgxM0l0WA

>>51115211
The world warped because Alaya gained enough influence as a split personality to ensure human survivability.

>>51115233
WRONG!
Some of the disguise charms, which are really fucking good and let you disguise yourself as another exalt type, do not require that lying charm.

How should I deal with Gil and Herc during the Fifth war?

>>51115253
The German dub is great because you don't need to understand German to get it.

>>51115211
>I mean primate murder is a fluffy dog that hangs out in Chaelda.
Its form in canon fate is a giant wolf that goes berserk and murders humans whenever it sees them.

>>51115159
Actually, I've been meaning to ask. You said we can make custom versions of the type of the Essence 6+ Shintai Charm that makes the Ebon Dragon a fuckhuge shadow dragon for our Devil-Tiger, right?

>>51115333
Grand Order is equally canon as the other series, the first chapter of the anime has already aired anyways.

>>51115233
That's what custom charms are for.
Just bullshit something about freeing yourself from obligations of lying. That way you're still in theme and presumably the ebon dragon would also no longer be stuck being quite as much of an asshole.

>>51115333
Is the "Primate" meant to indicate that it's a murderer of primates, in the sense of hominids and related, or that it is a murderer that is a primate, in the sense of being first among a group? Because it's Gaia's first human-killing machine, it was the original Dead Apostle. So it could go either way. Nasuverse loves weird and outdated usage of words, and as far as I know Primate Murder doesn't kill monkeys, so I kind of want to assume it's the second.

>>51115264
Quicksilver made the first couple of jumps, gave out some instructions on how to format a jump, and then as things developed most people seemed to have a different vision of jumpchain than he did. There was also much bitching and many shitstorms that also sucked his interest away.

>>51115413
That's... actually a really good idea.

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>>51115233
Yeah, that kinda sucks.

It's the reason I've never actually played any character with more than the barest investment into Ebby's charms.

At least the disguises also don't need it. Loom-Snarling Deception is one of his most useful charms, especially if you use it to fuck with the Pattern Spider's heads (or disguise yourself as some other Exalt, I guess).

...It just kinda makes me sad, because Golden Years Tarnished Black does look like delicious FUN.

>>51115249
It's pretty good, yeah.

Grab some Malfeas stuff with it, and you can also ignore the damage they /do/ manage to do to you.

>>51115379
Yes. That is specifically noted in the Notes as the singular exception to Custom Charms I'm allowing. Because the effects would just mostly be the same as Ebby's version, and thus known (and not really that impressive aside from sheer size).

...Do watch out with that Greater Imperfection though. Being a giant puzzleboss isn't always preferable.

>>51115415
It's anti-human.

>>51115448
Right, but it doesn't kill other apes and monkeys, is my point. So it's really only killing one specific type of primate, kind of weird to name it after that. But it is the first Dead Apostle, the primate of them.

>>51115447
>Do watch out with that Greater Imperfection though. Being a giant puzzleboss isn't always preferable.
What's that? Am I giving myself a permanent weakness by doing it?

400 point perks are coming along!

Drop-In:
Foundations of Self Discovery [400]: The energy of Mania is now yours to control but you have little or no direction to use it. To do science one has to study but the ways of the mere mortal aren’t going to be enough. However you have all the tools needed in your own mind. Inspired is a name given to you for good reason and you can put this inspiration to good use. By touching upon the raw force of Mania you can treat yourself as having a mentor for any ability as long as a mentor exists in the local land. At lower Inspiration this covers a small area, perhaps a block or two, but at the height of Inspiration you could easily tap into the latent flow of ideas from an entire city. This Muse is a difficult thing, and not at all tame, so tapping too deeply or too often could have… unfortunate consequences.

Renaissance Man:
Stress Testing [400]: The working of wonders is an act of Inspiration. It is not so fundamentally buried in the ways of science as to ignore other outlets and some folk in the Hermetic Order of 28 Spheres has turned you to their experiments in this area. With this perk you will be able to find and utilize the Clark Line, this is in reference to Clarks Law that states that sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from sufficiently advanced technology, to create technology so close to magic as to count as it. The ‘science’ behind this must still always be consistent internally.


How are these?

>>51115487
It's weird because you're looking at it from an English perspective. In Japanese Primate Murder is just seen as an exotic stylistic name.

>>51115447
Yeah, I can't into reading comprehension. Sorry and thanks.

>>51115447
Wait, so you're giving actual immortality?

I have no problem with it. Just thought that was kind of taboo.

>>51115487
Homininae Murder doesn't roll of the tounge.

>>51115561
Realistically, its no more immortal than the ghost alt form you can get from the sims.

>>51115586
Humanity's End? Sounds like a JRPG Boss Move.

>>51115561
It's a charm in the setting yo.
It's not even actual immortality since you can still die. It's just really hard.

>>51115519
The wording of the Foundations of Self Discovery is a little strange. So do we still need to research to teach ourselves stuff? Or can we just sit down and hang out in a crowded city without doing anything and just get infomation?

Maybe you could allow people to self-teach themselves and have them use Mania and the collective ideas of people to help supplement this, treating them as if they had a mentor for purposes of self-teaching instead.

I know I keep asking about perks (sorry) Are you going to have the two dot merit Dumpster Diving as a perk? It would be pretty neat and useful.

>>51115613
You know you used to be a lot better at this.
Imposter kun is that you?

>>51115597
>>51115609
Doesn't it take super stronk conceptual magic to kill you though?

>>51115613
Fuck off.

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>>51115509
>Am I giving myself a permanent weakness by doing it?
No.

You are giving yourself a weakness for as long as you keep the Shintai active.

Because you're basically taking on most of the stats of that Yozi.

>What's that?
Well. Normally, perfect defences in Exalted have an Imperfection, a condition in which they fail.

The Yozi/Primordials however, have a Greater Imperfection that applies to basically all their defences.

It's the trade-off Primordials make for their terrible power... Getting a gaping weakpoint to go along with it.

Ebon Dragon's Greater Imperfection:
>The Ebon Dragon suffers from his own imperfection more severely than the Infernal Exalted do, as defensive Charms suffering this flaw also cost a number of additional motes to activate equal to the rating of any Virtue channeled to enhance the attack. Worse, his intrinsic antithesis to Virtue means that it is always permissible to channel any Virtue to enhance attacks against him, defend against his attacks or take any action that he directly contests with his traits. Finally, channeling a Virtue to enhance a defense against any physical or social attack the Ebon Dragon makes causes the defense to perfectly succeed. The death of the Unconquered Sun removes the base inapplicability of his perfect defenses to resist Holy attacks, but it does not remove the other effects of the greater imperfection.

>>51115530
No problem.

>>51115561
No, you can still get killed by effects that can permanently kill spirits.

I meant ignoring the pain, bashing damage, and unconsciousness that doesn't kill you. Which Eternal Essence doesn't protect from.

>>51115665
Not really. If it kills ghosts to the point where they can't just reform in a little bit it'll still kill you.

What are some good scrying perks or items?

>>51114704
Uh, where the fuck did you get that idea? That's blatantly not the case.

>>51115613
Aren't you bored yet?

>>51115613
Shut up Guest18497, logging out of the IRC and then talking about shit that happened before you left won't cover your ass.

>>51115687
Seer from EMH, Scrying from Samurai Jack, Web of Infinity from USJ, probably a shit-ton of shit from Anima. I bet there's more.

>>51115704
That was me, browser crashed.

>>51115613
>>51115704
IRC is literally just fateposting.
Thats it. Stop pretending it's anything but.

>>51115447
hey can you help me build a new imperfection if it's the imperfection that kills you? I think I am going to want to do other things than craft at Some point would something easier like "accepts the pre-existing power structures" work? . Alternatively would out of context stuff that removes weaknesses inherent to the nature of whatever you are i.e. sunlight to vampires work for this?

didn't we kick around a few other ideas? I forgot what they were

I could really use some suggestions for this. Devil-tiger

Major Themes: alternatives, Justice, equality, learning, change, creation, Arcane, Smithing, paradox, murder, revolution, loyalty, impossible geometries
Minor Themes: Overkill, child-rearing , sculpting, marriage, disruption of the natural order, hope, groundwater hydrology,

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>>51115665
>Doesn't it take super stronk conceptual magic to kill you though?
Exalts usually get magic to perma-kill spirits at Essence 3 though.

So... Not that stronk? It's just something unique to the Exalted in-setting.

Basically, >>51115686 this.

>>51115642
>Maybe you could allow people to self-teach themselves and have them use Mania and the collective ideas of people to help supplement this, treating them as if they had a mentor for purposes of self-teaching instead.
This is what I was going for actually thanks Moth-Shaped-Person.
>I know I keep asking about perks (sorry) Are you going to have the two dot merit Dumpster Diving as a perk?
I don't think I could fit everything in Genius into the Jump but I'm working a 'uses real stuff that could be found easily locally' perk for A 'Real' Scientist 200

>>51115509
No, just when you're in the Greater Shintai. It adds a new weakness to compensate for the power boost. We have two examples from the books.. Normally the Imperfection of the Ebon Dragon is that Holy attacks penetrate his Perfect Defense. Upon donning his Tenebrous Apotheosis Shintai he gains the Greater Imperfection. This means that it's always permissible to channel any Virtue to enhance actions opposing him, even if it normally wouldn't make sense. Further, any defense against him enhanced by a Virtue automatically succeeds. This represents how as the Principle of Pointless Spite (okay, it'sreally the Principle of Opposition, but my version is more accurate) he's weak to people that take actions because of things mattering to them, rather than his knee-jerk motivations of ruining others' fun. Figuring this out, and making appropriate use of your limited stock of Virtue Channels, makes for the puzzle aspect.

Likewise, the normal Imperfection of Theion is that as the Ruler of the Cosmos, he needs to have people around to witness his majesty. A king is nothing without his kingdom, so his perfect defenses cost more when there aren't at least (Essence) Magnitude mortals around to observe him. Magnitude 10 is a couple million people, so he needs to draw a crowd. When he's subject to the Greater Imperfection (which is actually always on for him, because Theion's weird like that, but his Infernals could have been conditionally subject), anyone who he has rejected his authority over is completely immune to any of his perfect effects. They just don't work on them, they're no longer something Theion has a right to command. Getting him to relinquish authority over you is therefore the puzzle part.

>>51115519
So at lower inspiration, you'd need to stalk your uncooperative teacher closely to get any benefit? For however long it would take for them to teach you conventionally? Tricky.

You're dropping the 'E' from Clarke again! But more to the point, what does this actually /do/? I mean, isn't this just describing what Geniuses do anyway? Or is it intended to let you use magic-boosting/transparency perks on your Wonders?

>>51115677
So for a Devil Tiger, when you use your own custom version, all your attacks and defenses gain some fatal flaw based around your themes?

>>51115779
1. Yeah.
2. Sorry about the 'e'
3. More the later.

If I summoned Artoria as someone with enough mana to support her would there be anyone in the Fifth War who could beat her? (Other than Gilgamesh)

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>>51115741
>Justice
Bullshit

>>51115852
Just make sure to pump her full of mana as often as possible and she'll be good to go. Might walk a little funny, though.

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>>51115519
>>51115759
You made me read the Genius pdf out of curiosity.
It quotes fucking timecube. I wasn't prepared for this level of crazy. Can't wait to see what kind of madness everyone will get up to once it comes out you beautiful man you.

>>51115852
No one.
Excalibur is pretty OP and Saber with a decent master trashes most servants in melee.

>>51115487
>>51115333
The first Dead Apostles were created by the True Ancestors as food/servants, and the True Ancestors were created by Gaia to control humans based on a template left behind by the Crimson Moon after he had to be booted. Primate Murder is only considered a Dead Apostle Ancestor because it's a dumping ground for anything unexplainable enough. Most of its members are just the last True Ancestors or Dead Apostles who have experimented on themselves to the point where they're freakish and inhuman. Primate Murder is only there because Arcueid's sister keeps him as a pet.

>>51115915
Primate Murder is considered an ancestor because the list is "things the Church really wants dead".

>>51115915
But it's still the first of them. That's it's title, the Original Dead Apostle. So it's a primate. Fuck it, I don't care if the pun's unintentional, I like it anyway. When I get to Nasuverse I'm going to tell people that's where its name really comes from. And with my charisma perks, I can probably convince anyone who knows differently into agreeing with my anyway.

>>51114829
If I may?

You've seriously improved since the days of Seven. Good work, man. We always need more stuff like this.

>>51115688
So it does protect against magic other than direct attacks? Such as a curse or a sleep spell?

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>>51115855
my Jumper has always been a servant of justice, it might not of been everyone's idea of justice. And it might not of been nice but he's been working on that stuff and the personality perks from the later kamen rider jumps and friendship/ humanity lessons from Gentaro have really helped him a lot

>>51115413
>Powering up the worst Yozi

>>51115852
Berserker, sort of, I don't think Excalibur can take out more than one or two lives, Caliburn taking out a bunch at once was kind of bullshit. Though you could buy Caliburn for her as well, or get Shirou to make you one.

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>>51115824
Interesting. Not all that useful to me personally, but I can see it being valuable in other circumstances.

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>>51115741
>hey can you help me build a new imperfection if it's the imperfection that kills you?
Okay? I don't have too much time left today...

>I think I am going to want to do other things than craft at Some point would something easier like "accepts the pre-existing power structures" work?
Maybe, yeah? Do note you'd be vulnerable whenever you accept existing power structures then. You'd need to be in a constant state of revolution, if that works for you?

>Alternatively would out of context stuff that removes weaknesses inherent to the nature of whatever you are i.e. sunlight to vampires work for this?
I'd say no... probably not? But maybe, if you can apply it to abstracts/techniques?

It's more inherent to your charms and your Yozi's nature as a concept, not really to you.

>didn't we kick around a few other ideas? I forgot what they were
Hm. Me too. Should be in the archives somewhere...?

>revolution, loyalty
Uh. Okay? Not sure how those work together?

>>51115771
>Magnitude 10 is a couple million people, so he needs to draw a crowd.
Uh. What?

Magnitude 9 is 10,000 people. Magnitude 8 is 5,000.

Magnitude 10 is probably 20,000 or 15,000?

>When he's subject to the Greater Imperfection (which is actually always on for him, because Theion's weird like that
Greater Imperfection is always on for all Primordials, it's a function of Cosmic Principle.

>>51115802
Yes, but only your defences gain the fatal flaw.

Your attacks are fine.

>>51115963
Not quite. One of the Ancestors works for the church, he's a member of their Executioners.
It's more "these things are a threat to humanity as a whole" list.

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>>51115972
But it's so fluffy.

>>51115897
>You made me read the Genius pdf out of curiosity.
Yay always glad for more people.
>It quotes fucking timecube. I wasn't prepared for this level of crazy.
I doubt anyone is really...

Also the rewritten, and hopefully better 400s:

Drop-In:
Foundations of Self Discovery [400]: The energy of Mania is now yours to control but you have little or no direction to use it. To do science one has to study but the ways of the mere mortal aren’t going to be enough. However you have all the tools needed in your own mind. Inspired is a name given to you for good reason and you can put this inspiration to good use. By touching upon the raw force of Mania and the collective ideas of people to help supplement this, you can treat yourself as if you had a mentor for purposes of self-teaching instead. At lower Inspiration this covers a small area, perhaps a block or two, but at the height of Inspiration you could easily tap into the latent flow of ideas from an entire city. This Muse is a difficult thing, and not at all tame, so tapping too deeply or too often could have… unfortunate consequences.

Renaissance Man:
Stress Testing [400]: The working of wonders is an act of Inspiration. It is not so fundamentally buried in the ways of science as to ignore other outlets and some folk in the Hermetic Order of 28 Spheres has turned you to their experiments in this area. With this perk you will be able to find and utilize the Clarke Line, this is in reference to Clarke's Law that states that sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from sufficiently advanced technology, to create technology so close to magic as to count as it. The ‘science’ behind this must still always be consistent internally but it can now benefit from things that would usually only be the prudence of magic, including perks.

>>51116036
Yeah basically that.

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>>51116005
No you don't get it.
You have to make a bunch of charms like that so the Ebon dragon goes from being a dick with a heart made of dicks to a dick with a heart of dick shaped gold.
That way he can actually be a nice guy sometimes instead of being completely incapable of it.

>>51115983
Uh... Yes? Literally anything that's blow its rank it completely nullifies. It's less about the type of attack and more its magnitude. And, well, just just having prana in general renders most curses/sleep spells useless.

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>>51115997
The picture is what he used to be like this is more what he's like now
>>51116039
if you don't have time it's cool, go take care of life stuff and yeah That will be equally rough I have no idea what to do

>>51115997
I always thought the "Magneto can manipulate blood" thing to be stupid. Iron isn't inherently magnetic on the atomic scale, no more than any other atom with its valence is. Ferromagnetism is a product of microstructure, when it's bound up into hemoglobin iron is only paramagnetic. And not very paramagnetic, if Magneto can manipulate blood with paramagnetism he could manipulate any other part of the human body. Which he probably can, Magneto has insane strong magnetic abilities, but there's no need for him to brag about how he's manipulating the iron in blood. It doesn't work that way.

>>51116071
You'd be more likely to get that result by butchering your way through his Soul Hierarchy until all that remains are his, very very very few, non-dick souls.

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>>51114042
>>51114342
If you want more demons just an infernal companion, mind-rape them, soul-rape them and then slam your souls together, linking them but making sure that they're differentiated enough so you don't completely absorb it...

I mean, it's not that hard, you just need to think outside the box and be a little more 'creative', instead of asking for jumpmaker to do all the work for you.

>>51116061
>The incarnation of human death needs to be taken for walksies every day and pees on the neighbors mailbox.

Hey what's this K&K I'm hearing tossed around with God-hand?

>>51116102
you gotta understand that magneto follows comicbook writer Physics, rather than anything following Anything remotely resembling actual science

>>51116125
Honestly if someone wanted more third circles they could always just get them detached with that one charm whose name I've forgotten.
They'd probably just be normal companions at that point, but they don't take up demon slots anymore.

>>51115852
That depends massively on how things actually progress.

Almost all of the Servants could kill Saber if they got serious from the beginning and didn't give her a chance to use Excalibur. She could probably outfight most of them but merely having more mana actually wouldn't help her a whole bunch. Saber relies a LOT on hiding her identity since Excalibur has a windup time that would cause somebody like Lancer to absolutely fuck her if she tried to use it in melee. Berserker would completely destroy her if she tried to fight him head-on even with Excalibur and Gilgamesh would trash her casually with barely any effort whatsoever.

Saber is far from invincible even at full power.

>>51116039
>Magnitude 10 is probably 20,000 or 15,000?
For an army, yeah. Magnitude has a different scale for the Mandate of Heaven rules. I assumed that Theion would be using those, for kingship and what not, but it doesn't actually say. Up to the individual GM, I guess. Not like it really matters for purposes of Jumpchain, though, we don't have a Gunstar Autocthonia jump so there's no way for anyone to get Theion charms.

>Greater Imperfection is always on for all Primordials, it's a function of Cosmic Principle.
Huh, so it is. Why does the text of Tenebrous Apotheosis Shintai say that it inflicts the Greater Imperfection on the Ebon Dragon, then? I guess for if Infernals learn it, but it specifically says it does it to the Ebon Dragon. Was the word count so high on the book that they couldn't spare any space to say "if an Infernal learns this charm, then they're affected by the Greater Imperfection when using it"? Was there really nowhere in Return of the Scarlet Empress they could cut space? Really?

>>51116167
>Excalibur has a windup time
No it doesn't. It in fact is stated in the original to be the fastest activating Noble Phantasm. She can literally do it in the time it takes her to dash a meter and swing the sword.]
The anime put in the charge up for drama and to look cool.

>>51116061
It's going to be a silly fight against this thing.

Who wrote the Generic Creepypasta Jump, and is ver 1.2 (on the drive) the latest version?
I'd like some clarification on Possession, and the Foundation drawback.

>>51116154
I know. I'm just saying they're dumb.

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What happens when Jumpers wanna have fun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RgR0-EWuNY

>>51116204
Doormaker would perhaps let you get Theion charms.
I mean Gunstar Autocthonia has got to be somewhere in the Well of Urd right?

>>51116235
Watch the yesterday's Sherlock.

>>51116143
Wut?

>>51116226
yes yes it is , it's a cape comic. What do you expect?

>>51116235
the Mrs. and I have a date night,Taking different factions in An import option makes things spicier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpMre7UTZQI

>>51116064
Err, it's kind of my fault for bringing it up, so to clarify:
Clarke's third law is "Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Agatha's Corollary (coined in the image I previously posted) is a reference to it, and expands on it with "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."

They're related and complementary, but it's not a direct reversal. But then again, Geniuses are all about fudging things, so it kinda fits as is.

I think that's enough nerdrage from me for today. Maybe I should go outside? Yeah, sounds good.

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>>51116235
I build an army of robots to take over the world, of course!

>>51116143
>http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Kavacha_and_Kundala

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>>51116235

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>>51116098
>if you don't have time it's cool, go take care of life stuff
I have /some/ time? But it's kinda late here and I need to get up early tomorrow, so it's probably like half an hour.

>and yeah That will be equally rough I have no idea what to do
Well. If we're just talking the normal Imperfection...

Think about what your Devil Tiger is, what he does, find some kind of thing that means he's "in his element", or some kind of thing that is his antithesis.

Adorjan needs to keep moving, Theion needs an audience, SWLiHN needs to understand what's happening, Malfeas needs to be in a city/something for habitation, EbonDragon needs to not get his by Holy stuff, Cecelyne can't defend against more powerful things than herself, and Kimbery needs to be close to a sea...

>>51116204
>For an army, yeah. Magnitude has a different scale for the Mandate of Heaven rules.
Ah. That's a fair point, yes. I never did too much with the Mandate of Heaven rules myself, so I'm not as familiar with it as I probably should be.

>Why does the text of Tenebrous Apotheosis Shintai say that it inflicts the Greater Imperfection on the Ebon Dragon, then?
Well. It does also say it grants Worldshaper Assumption and Epic Panoply, which he also already has.

So yeah, mostly for an Infernal that learns it, while this bit:
>unless he already has these qualities.
is for Ebby himself.

>>51116311
All very interesting and thanks for the advice and perk critic.

>>51116358
I still say it could have been clearer. Again, it's not like there wasn't anything they could cut to make room for a better explanation.

>>51116312
>not posting the song with the picture
> Seriously.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci9CCvTHvpM
>>51116358
fair enough

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What are your jumpers' monstrous alt-forms like?

What are their favorite forms?

>>51116235
I either read a book, play video games, eat at fancy restaurants or engage in Vigilantism, depending on where I am.

>>51116167
Isn't the first thing you see at the start of the series a fight between Saber and Gil in which she is holding her own?

>>51116039
>Greater Imperfection is always on for all Primordials, it's a function of Cosmic Principle.
Well they are also always wearing one of those greater shintai bodies, as part of their "you are your charms, your charms are you" thing and they have no other option

A hypothetical jumper who went full "your exaltation flutters away" Yozi has Outside context stuff that allow them to exist outside the charmset in perks, instead of being all idiot savant titan all the time, could stop wearing a jotunbody by switching to an alt-form and deactivate the weakness.

>>51116429
Isn't it lancer she's fighting in the fire?

>>51116102
Matt "Research?" Pat of Game Theory tried to run some 'numbers' on movie Magneto and came to the conclusion that he's on par with a fucking neutron star.

Regardless, mutant powers are weird. Isn't there a mutant named Oshun that can only telekinetically manipulate liquids? What kind of fucking logic is that?

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>>51116397
>What are their favorite forms?

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>>51116397
Aside from pick related . He has a new form which is basically "giant robot mishmash of every kamen rider up to Drive but also a tank and a fiery UFO"

>>51116235
also, real freaks don't keep going on about how freaky they are, they show it through their actions.

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>>51116338
>A-rank
>reduces strength of all attacks by 90%
Surely this is something that would be disallowed? Just... wow.

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So. What kind of beings do you do seed universes with, or what beings do you use to start your own civilizations?

Humans? Elves? Dragons? Demons? Your own creations?

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>>51116397
>What are your jumpers' monstrous alt-forms like?

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>>51116371
You're quite welcome, and I wish you the best going forward.

>>51116358
>Ah. That's a fair point, yes. I never did too much with the Mandate of Heaven rules myself, so I'm not as familiar with it as I probably should be.
I assume it refers to the Magnitude specified in the Core Rule Book, since the Mandate of Heaven is a stand alone and is the only thing that used the larger magnitude.

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>>51116061
Even the giant wolf form is kind of cute.

Look, he's dressed up like Gil.

>>51116311
>Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science
That's bullshit. Some magic is explicitly incompatible with the scientific method.

>>51116493
Well, it is fucking Karna.

>>51116503
Giants, qilins, centaurs, angels, and dragons mostly.

>>51116521
Yes, which means it can't be sufficiently analyzed. That doesn't disprove the concept, it just shows that there are things that exist outside it. It's not saying "all magic can be analyzed to the point that it becomes science".

>>51116521
>Some magic is explicitly incompatible with the scientific method.
Then that magic will never be sufficiently analyzed, and therefore will be distinguishable from science.
Dingus.

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>>51116507
You need to calm your tits.

>>51116503
Psychic space whales. You've got to love psychic space whales. Civilization was very good for me, in that regard, now there are space whales in every universe I go to. Not very many, most of them have died off, as can be seen from their numerous ruins. But there are enough that pretty much every species has encountered them and formed an embassy for interactions with them.

>>51116235
I go fight things in my invented holodeck, write stories vaugly based on my misadventures in jumps except with my creative spin on it (which is very meta), scribble out my plots, or daydream about how to kick butts.

>>51116521
Uh, like what? Just fucking Discworld's?

>>51116350
Is this what happens when you get too many charisma and 'likable quirky guy' perks?

>>51116503
Depends on the terrain but given the option I'm quite fond of mermaids and selkies.

>>51116518
Is that canon, or a fan drawing?

>>51116543
>>51116539
>>51116521
I will immediately point out that there is a reason all the sparks are call "madmen" and there is a reason that the Jagermonsters call the creative aspect of their ultrascience "the madness place".

People who try to apply scientific principles to magic are undoubtedly and truly mad.

>>51116507
Does she have cat-ears? And a lizard tail?

>>51116566
>too many

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>>51116397
Shadow man is always my favorite form.

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>>51116597
It's Godzilla. Here she is not freaking out.

>>51116597
That's an R63 Godzilla, anon.

Really captcha. 15 goddamn captcha puzzles in a row just to post this ONE LINE.

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>>51116445
Cosmic Principle doesn't actually have much to do with the jouten body though. (Besides being the prereq for those of course.)

It seems to work on your soul, considering it makes your Exaltation flutter away.

So I don't think altforms would help? I mean, if you can reverse your soul being transformed into a Yozi-like thing, I suppose that could work... but then you'd lose the "benefits" of the charm.

>>51116514
That was my interpretation too.

Considering it's not actually specified, it's technically up to the ST though.

>>51116521
Geniuses explicitly go against actual science because reality bends over to accomodate their bullshit ideas. the only problem comes in when it becomes in excess, and that's when the Illuminated comes in.

Saying "it's incompatible with the scientific method" is meaningless when talking about Genius.

Has anyone seen InNomineAnon around lately?

>>51116521
True. Chaos magic and its ilk generally is, for example. But any magic you can reliably control is necessarily subject to rules (as evidenced by you being able to predict what the spell will do, which is probably why you're casting it, and that you can repeat the event), which places it within the purview of the scientific method. Those rules by no means match materialistic ones, but they're there.

Which, incidentally, makes it a handy check for which magic systems are actually good for anything.

>>51116597
Lizard tail yes, cat ears no. Those are scaled bumps on her head meant to look like Godzilla's skull-ridges, it's a humanized female Godzilla. That particular image is a take on "Burning Godzilla" the form the King of Monsters took in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, after absorbing too much atomic energy and starting to burn from the inside out.

>>51116627
If it starts doing that to you just spam the refresh button a couple times and the next puzzle should go through in one go.

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>>51116503
Do robots count?
It's don't know if you'd consider them just one "species" because of how different one can be from the other, but they fit basically every niche I'd want filled period.

>>51116627
Use legacy captcha.
It's just words. No bullshit.

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>>51116696
But anon, bullshit is a word.

>>51116507
I continue to be surprised that we don't have more Godzilla jumps, or just Kaiju jumps in general.

>>51116658
Yeah, why?

>>51116720
It took us nearly three years to get a working Metroid jump, and there are still plenty of other big name IPs that we're missing. I get what you're saying though.

>>51116720
Not anime enough.

>>51116735
Just wanted to know-is the ban on developing higher than E5 Charms in the Sidereal jumps meant to be all-encompassing for the other splats, or only limited to Sidereals?

Also the thought occurs that technically, there is nothing stopping you from using the canon compnaion option from taking someone like Chejop Kejak unless I overlooked a note somewhere. Would high Essence Sidereals lose their capacity to learn high Essence Charms if companioned?

>>51116750
To be fair, Metroid has been getting less popular and less attention as the years go on.

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>>51116397
Usually some kind of dragon.

Angels. They're very diverse in form, and it's a lot of fun to see the forces of evil shit their pants upon seeing a pissed off angel heading their way to deliver their punishment.

>>51116794
Sidereals can't make Custom Charms, period. Unless they're SMA Charms.

>>51116770
>D&D jumps
>Star Trek / Wars jumps
>Warhammer jumps
>Tabletop jumps
>Cape jumps
>Vidya jumps
>Action movie jumps
>Novel jumps
>Genre jumps
>etc
>etc
Don't be a twat, anon. We have a lot of anime jumps, but we've got plenty of other stuff too.

>>51116770
>Giant monsters punching each other
>There are frequently giant robots punching the monsters too
How is that not anime enough?

>>51116493
There are like three good armor NP That one, God Hand that negates anything below it's own rank, grants 12 one ups(what you can get is limited to one one up per jump though) and Armor of Fafnir, that reduces all negative effects by it's rank(as a B rank NP itself A rank attacks/magic hit Siegfried as though they are E rank), with the exception of a single unprotectable weak point, which I think you can buy out of by buying one rank above the effective rank, ie buy it at A rank without the weak point and everything will be reduced by B rank.

Then a special note to Andreias Amarantos that makes it so that Achilles can only be harmed by attacks by those who have equal or higher divinity than him(though with D rank Divinity below Achilles's C rank only 75% of the damage will be blocked), however an divine object can also harm him if it has a high enough rank. So a C rank or above NP that is a divine construct such as Excalibur would ignore it. Andreias Amarantos though is really powerful due to this, but also useless in many situations.

>>51116816
Not quite. They can do new astrology charms if the locks are taken off, but those aren't something you'd really want to be playing with anyways given that reality starts breaking down.

>>51116830
He's just passive-aggressively bitching about anime. Pay him no mind.

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>Eldritch Suit- A dapper black suit that just seems to scream: I am a normal human! You can somehow fit into it, no matter how big you are, and it helps you blend in better. It can only do so much though, so expect to cause some panic if you go out wearing it while you’re a hundred feet tall. (100 CP, discount Cryptid)

Is it worth it?

>>51116800
What are some jumps which would allow you to acquire a glowing halo? Or glowing weapons, for that matter.

>>51116856
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>>51116720
>Pacific Rim
>Evangelion
>Power Rangers

>>51116794
If someone else makes a jump and offers a splat with a higher cap, then that cap would apply for members of that splat. But I think all the others have or will have the same general restriction.

But yes, if you take Chejop he loses any custom high Essence Charms he may have learned. Note that tautologically every Charm on his canon character sheet is not a custom Charm, so the only change would be ones he picked up since the jump started. He can still keep learning new canon E6+ Charms though.

But even post-Spark, there's no such thing as an Essence 6+ Sidereal Charm, only Astrological Charms and Sidereal Martial Arts Charms.

>>51116816
Well, learn new ones then?

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>>51116872
It's from the Generic Creepypasta jump.
It's the fifth jump in my chain.
It's only 50CP, so I'm thinking of splurging on it, especially if alt-forms don't include clothing. Shit, alt-forms don't include clothing. I'm gonna get it.

And now my Collage stuff is starting up with a vengeance. I need someone to take up my mantle and keep up the good work. I would like to continue on but this is now impacting my schoolwork, which is crazy I've only been doing this for about eight hours total, and so I need to hand this off to someone so it doesn't end up in WIP hell. Would one of you Anon's help me out?

>>51116856
The jump has a mandatory drawback for Cryptids that makes you stand out as a monster even if you look like a normal person. The suit is pretty much your only chance to not cause a panic in everyday life.

So yea pretty worth it.

>>51116874
still isn't it weird that we only have the American cartoon version of the Godzilla Franchise?

>>51116865
Overlord's Angels have glowing halos and cool auras.

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>>51116865
>What are some jumps which would allow you to acquire a glowing halo?
...Goat Simulator. Angel Goat.

>Or glowing weapons, for that matter.
Exalted? Though those are flavored in their particular colors... So you'd need the Solar one?

D&D has an enchantment for it, I believe?

>>51116911
I see, thank you. However-does that mean there is no cap on Charms which aren't part of a jump-specific splat? Like if you somehow spliced yourself into being a Dragon King, or fused a god into yourself?

>>51116932
My dude why wouldn't you be able to just do it when you don't have as much work?
You don't need to hand it off right away.

>>51116872
What are you, Brellin?

>>51116964
It's just custom charms that are capped.
You won't find much of any of those out there that aren't made yourself.

>>51116972
I'd rather it be put out to others.

>>51116964
I don't see why not, no. (I forget the exact mechanics of Dragon Kings, they may naturally be limited by canon). Infernals already gives you access to high Essence spirit Charms through your demons anyway.

>>51116865
>What are some jumps which would allow you to acquire a glowing halo?

Saints row as a really good one, also SMT ,DIGIMON STORY: CYBER SLEUTH,and Sburb if you go God Tier as a light aspect.

>Or glowing weapons, for that matter.

Star Wars obviously, or any of Several of the options from the chroma pack supplement from league of legends Can make all your weapons glow.

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Jump #160 Strike Witches
Starting Location: America (Free, Fox familiar)
Age: 16
Gender: Female
Background: Drop In (0)
Striker: 1st generation, fighter (0)

Perks:
*Defensive sign – Directional Shield (0)
*Swordsmanship (100)
*Restoration sign –Blurr (200) Got to go fast
*Technomage (100, Discount)
*Perception sign – Flawless Awareness (200, Discount)
*Enchanted Eye (300, Discount)
*Perception sign – Ballistic Stabilization (300)

Equipment:
*Bomber Jacket (0)

Companion Imports:
*Imports X 8 (0)
I am assuming companion imports are fee from what I read.

Companions
*Akitsu, Arcueid, Tamamo, Dove, Donfang, Yukari, Yuki, Gatomon

>>51117059
It's sad this isn't even in my top 10 of strange jumps I have visited.

It was an unusual bunch of girls I wound up serving with, one kept feeling everyone up. I had to save her from Tomamo and Arcueid. They don’t appreciate such displays of skinship. Also I made the mistake of letting Mio see Caliburn…. What is it with sword freaks and this sword…. I have to be careful using it around Archer too.

Anyways we fought the Neuroi. Some of my companions had it a bit rough I had tried to train them for such combat beforehand but as tends to happen a Neuroi showed up and it became a live fire training exercise. However aside from a few rough spots they managed to adapt. Thankfully I had a huge armament of weapons to equip them with though I got complained to that they weren’t regulation.

It’s kind of strange how Jumpchan has been throwing me against aliens lately. I don’t enjoy killing and often I am forced to kill them. I tried to find some science behind the Neuroi, hoping to find some answer what they want and what would make them go away. Sadly there didn’t really seem to be a pattern.

Anyways I helped the others take down the Neuroi. I tried not to show off too much but a couple times wound up pulling off feats that left the rest of my squad in awe. To save a battleship I unleashed a blast of magic large enough to consume the creature entirely. After that they started to poke and prod me to try and figure out where all that magic had come from. Final conclusion seemed to be that Caliburn the sword of kings must truly be an artifact of godlike power.

That led them to rely on me more and send us in to more dangerous situations. I managed to keep my comrades though it took a lot of work and sharing a few tricks I might not have otherwise. Though I was reluctant. We actually did help free some areas of Neuroi control. I just hope the stuff that I showed the girls doesn’t come back to bite everyone in the ass.

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>>51116937
Yeah, I should have considered that.
I wish there was a codified set of rules regarding how perks impacted altforms.

>>51116964
It's not like either of those can make custom charms anyway...

Dragon King can't create their own Steps, only learn those that already exist.

And Spirits basically just use the (very flexible) Spirit Charms system, IF they manage to learn anything at all. Which they usually don't.

>>51116932
Why not just work on it during the weekend?

>>51116998
Not how jumpmaking works. It doesn't happen.

>>51117041
>and Sburb if you go God Tier as a light aspect.
Probably not actually.

Even if you get a power to project a halo somehow, it'd more likely come from Hope as the holiness Aspect.

>>51117135
sorry misremembered that.

>>51116998
You could upload the WIP and put it in the WIP folder if you want others to pick it up.

>>51117151
That folder should be renamed The Graveyard desu.

>>51116750
define 'big name IP's'.

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>>51117114
>Why not just work on it during the weekend?
Because I would rather buckle down and think of nothing but school for the next two to three months.
>Not how jumpmaking works. It doesn't happen.
There's an adoption folder in the WIP folder, so I'm pretty sure it does work that way sometimes. I'm also pretty sure that Digger has picked up stuff that was offered in this way before.

>>51117151
I'll do so. Anyway I'll put this one up for adoption, here is what I've already done.

>>51116834
>I think you can buy out of by buying one rank above the effective rank, ie buy it at A rank without the weak point and everything will be reduced by B rank.
Where does it say you can do that?

>>51116557
Magic School Bus jump when?

>>51117091
>a codified set of rules regarding how perks impacted altforms.

This would just cause so much arguing and shit-throwing it wouldn't be worth it.

>>51117210
>There's an adoption folder in the WIP folder, so I'm pretty sure it does work that way sometimes.
Hahaha, no. That thing is a pipe dream. Things go there to die permanently.

>>51117210
Well I wouldn't really mind waiting 3 months if you'd be willing to pick it up again.
That's a lot to ask I know, but if nobody picks it up for themselves it would be nice to have the insurance.

>>51117211
It's not in the supplement, I just remember asking Val about it. Though my hard drive failed, so I don't have a copy of my build where I did that. Just ask Val about it if you are interested in using that NP that way. Personally I'm not sure I shall be going with that again as I rebuild my chain.

>>51117240
That is extremely sad. How to Train Your Dragon is up for adoption as well, I see.

>>51117245
If no one picks it up in three months time, or however long this takes for me, I'll gladly pick it back up.

>>51116931
>fifth jump
Even as a cryptid, wouldn't that be kinda dangerous? I mean, what with Zalgo and (i think) a few other eldritch gods.

>>51116720
Alright, let's talk for a second: what would the origins of a Godzilla jump be? Would it be monsters exclusively, or humans and monsters? If it's the former, would it be something like:

>Natural: Based on Godzilla, Angirus, Rodan
>Divine: Based on Mothra, Mothra Leo
>Alien: Gigan, Ghidorah
>Mutant: Biollante, Destroyah
>Mecha: Kiryu, MOGUERA
Something like that? If not, what would you guys suggest?

What exactly can the starheart from the dc occult jump do? How does it compare to a power ring, like the one from the mainline dc comics jump?

>>51117296
It is just creepy pasta, Slendy is one of the more powerful beings there.

>>51116559
>Civilization was very good for me, in that regard, now there are space whales in every universe I go to.

What do you mean by this? Is there a perk in Civilization that makes your beings exist in every universe?

>>51117035
Quick question. Do the greater signs of the maidens work as if unlocked post jump?

>>51117307
Don't know much of Godzilla to be honest, but that sounds good?

Maybe an option to be human, even if it's mostly based around being a Kaiju? Most people will go for kaiju anyway, so basing the origins on kaiju types seems good. But the option for being human should probably be there for those that don't want to be an awesome giant monster.

>>51117351
Yes, except in any future Exalted jumps.

>>51117343
Not a perk, it's free. Check the ending. Post-jump every world you go to will have ruins of your civilization and there will be an embassy of living members of your civilization in every capital. It's kind of awesome.

>>51117307
I thought about doing Showa and Heisei, but I decided not to since I felt like I wouldn't do the King justice.

Humans would be Drop-In/Civilian (surviving through disasters like Kaiju attacks, making it so "plot relevant" or "useful" people survive them, maybe Frankenstein's Heart for Showa, Heisei would probably have psychic stuff), Military guy (coordinating relief and dealing with disasters natural or otherwise, finding the right people for the job and getting them to work with you), Scientist (designing bioweapons against specific enemies, getting the authorities to listen to you, making robotic counterparts for singular enemies).

Then Kaiju, which would cost your full CP budget but give points specifically for a section of Kaiju powers, with exclusive freebies that decide what type of monster you are (ie mutated like the big G or Kumonga, "natural" like King Kong, mecha, alien, you get the idea), maybe with discounts for each type.

>>51117389
Hmm, that's a good point. Now there's the matter of what to base the human origin off of. There are plenty of people to use, but just basing it off the majority of human characters in the series would give jumpers very little to work with. Maybe it should be based off the mecha pilots, psychics, and the Gotengo captain from Final Wars?

>>51117406

That is cool.

>>51117307
I think those should be race options. Instead, have the origins be what sort of kaiju you are thematically. Destroyer, like Ghidorah or Destoroyah or Space Godzilla. Defender, like Mothra or King Caesar, Territorial, like Godzilla himself in most of his incarnations, as well as his friends. And the Drop-In could hold the wildcards, like Gigan or Titanosaurus or all the others that don't have clear roles even if they're mostly villainous.

>>51117389
>>51117307
Personally I think it should be split up like the StarCraft jumps, you've definitely got space and material for a giant monster side, human side, and a alien invader side.

>>51117472
I was going to bring up all the crazy bullshit humans do in Final Wars. There should definitely be at least one Perk representing the feats of humanity on display there.

>>51117472
>>51117498
>Maybe it should be based off the mecha pilots, psychics, and the Gotengo captain from Final Wars?
That seems good, yeah.

Final Wars was pretty fun to watch.

>>51117496
...That's not a bad idea either.

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>>51117521
is this happening? is this finally fucking happening?!

If I don't care about getting the grail for myself is there anything I can do to fuck up the war so it ends early?

I just want a servant, fighting Herc and Gil seems like a colossal pain.

>>51117521
yes we can never forget this scene,it's very important!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxhdo4HDgg

>>51117462
>>51117491
Both of these sound like they could work. I guess you could have Eras instead of Locations, like JoJo? Or would you guys rather there be different jumps for each era?

>>51117498
>>51117521
Right, some Final Wars stuff for humans as well. Maybe with a drawback so that aliens can control you, and you have to resist without perks or get snapped out of it by allies?

>>51117496
This is also a possibility.

>>51117625
don't do eras With stuff like this, That's part of how I screwed up Ghostbusters.

>>51117296
I don't think I know enough about any pasta for my jumper to run into trouble. The only one I know anything about is Slenderman, and if I thought I couldn't handle him, I would have taken Slenderbro.

>>51117659
As I recall, the vast majority of Creepypasta are only low level horror monsters, though Slenderman can range from that level to that one where he's the Beast, or something like that,

>>51117234
When someone sits down and makes it.

Not sure if putting a jumper who can reverse-engineer magitech anywhere near the bus would be gamebreaking or not.

>0 CP drawback where Ms. Frizzle is not particularly unusual as far as teachers go
Just to make things more interesting, you see. A teacher who's secretly an alien whose students have to help him learn how to be human, a mad scientist teacher whose students have to solve problems caused by her inventions going haywire every week, etc. Maybe even references to specific series, like a purportedly unkillable teacher who has challenged his students to assassinate him by the end of the year.

>>51117496
Probably the best way to handle it, to be honest, since Kaijus would probably be playing an entirely different game than humans and aliens, and it wouldn't make much sense for those perks to overlap.

>>51117705
in the earlier storys is her name was Miss Tickell and she was explicitly a witch, I think the bus is enchanted technology rather than an actual fusion of magic and technology such as magitech.

>>51117654
Right, so Eras might not be a good idea. Maybe have those as separate jumps. The tone is different in each era, so it'd probably wouldn't work.

>>51117604
You could maybe target the greater grail and try to blow it up. But that may be more of a pain that fighting Herc, and likely would cause at least Gil to show up to fight you.

>>51117333
The real one is basically lantern ring +, less powerful constructs at the cost of a long list of other powers and a worse weakness. It's pretty great overall.

The one in the jump is just a significantly weaker lantern ring with none of the canon one's extra powers. It's not worth buying over the power ring from DC.