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>Your therapist insists on playing Dungeons and Dragons with you during your therapy sessions
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>>51111246
Well then OP, guess you have to roll them up an **Alienist**
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>"the undead knight swings his axe at you...and misses, you're up"
>Ok I
>Natural 20! Yes! Go back to the grave you came from, Undad!
>I mean, Dad Knight!
>I mean
>Uh
>huh
>"...when did he pass?"
>This year just hasn't been the same without him
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>>51111246
There are actually a lot of sources that indicate various kinds of role playing, from free-form to tabletop to LARP, can be very effective methods of therapy.

My friend is doing his psychology master's thesis on this topic, it is really quite interesting.
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>>51111246
I don't think rolling for it will fix my lack of initiative.
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>>51111246
They better be GMing. If I'm the one paying them AND I have to GM, there's clearly something amiss.
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>>51111246
>your therapist is actually performing an unethical human experiment to try and force a series of learned habits to basically teach you autism for a research paper
>you get DnD Brain Damage to advance your career
>you enter his magical realm
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When I was younger, I saw a few shrinks over a period of time about anger issues. The second one I visited, when I think I was between 7 and 9, was specifically a social worker. Unfortunately, whatever issues I happened to have with anger were generally far between, and I didn't have many friends at that time, so we almost never had anything to talk about. I think she sometimes thought I was keeping things from her, but honestly most of the time I just didn't have anything to say. After a few sessions of "nothing really happened today," she must have gotten tired, because she started pulling out her special board game.

The board looked a bit like the game of LIFE, with branching paths and things like that, but there wasn't an obvious goal, just loops. Certain regions of the map had been colored and decorated with various emotions: there was a blue region labeled SAD showing crying people or faces, a red one labeled ANGRY with red-faced people, and so on: I'm sure there were at least two or three more emotions listed, including probably HAPPY, but I don't remember them as well. I think those were the emotions she may have been most interested in.

The goal of the game, as far as I could remember, was that you would travel around the board and land on the spaces of various emotions. If you landed on a HAPPY space, you would describe something that happened to you recently that had made you HAPPY. I think the goal may have been to visit all the regions and describe something for each, but I remember getting that far only a few times.

Googling "emotions board game" seems to pull up quite a few of them.
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>>51112237
Yes. Unsurprisingly most of them are about how roleplaying teaches those on the autistic spectrum how to better socialize.
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>>51112540
This post makes me so confused. You know you can't be "taught" autism, right? What's "DnD Brain Damage"? Sanity damage is mostly a variant rule, and as far as I know nobody calls it that. What does any of it have to do with magical realms? I feel like you're an alien trying to mimic /tg/ without knowing what any of it means.
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>>51111246
NO

NO NOT 3.5E

ANYTHING BUT THAT
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>>51112593
Found the autist.
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>>51111246
>D&D
Better find a new therapist
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>DnD
Any chance of something that's not skub?
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>>51112635
D&D is Gateway /tg/ gaming. Of course they're going to suggest that, especially if it's 5e. Unless they're planning on using something for a specific therapeutic purpose, like Shock: Human Contact, they're going to default to D&D.
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>>51112593
The fact that a prolific game with severe design flaws is seen as what tabletop games do as normal, and anyone who strays from these rules is seen as the bad guy.

Do you have any idea how much shit I got from autistic cunts who have a problem with 3 or 5 level base classes in 3e?
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Oh, yay, it's another /tg/ hates D&D despite the fact that we still codify most fantasy using the race/class system, have more than five dedicated threads to discussing different versions of it.
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>>51112407
Under-fuckin-rated post
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>>51111889

>The gelatinous cube auto-grapples you--
>I HATE gelatinous cubes. They're bullshit. Why does it assume I'm okay being grappled? Why does it assume that I should be thankful that I have to float in its acidic ooze just because it grappled me? I get it! It made the attack roll-- whatever, I'm not-- the point is just what if I don't want to live in that attic anymore. Dad died and I stuck around because I couldn't afford not to but not it just feels like mom--
>The gelatinous cube.
>Right, it just feels like the gelatinous cube thinks I should just accept that this is the new normal, my life, even though I'm trying to move out and find something better.
>You know, your mother--
>Gelatinous cube.
>The gelatinous cube might just be scared of losing you. After all, if it isn't digesting you in its enzymes, what is it doing? Cleaning up that same dungeon hall again and again? Have you tried talking to the gelatinous cube--
>Mother.
>No, gelatinous cube.
>Right, sorry.
>Have you tried talking, though? Explaining that just because you won't be dissolving in goo doesn't mean you won't be returning to the dungeon to pillage it for loot? I'm going to suggest starting there tonight over dinner, alright?
>Yeah. Yeah, alright.
>Also you gained 1,200 experience.
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>>51112761
Wait, so you're just trying to turn this thread into another "fuck D&D" thread? Don't we have enough of those? That's what "what system should I play" threads and system wars threads are for. Can't this be an interesting thread about /tg/'s relationship with therapy in general and not just another petty dickwaving contest about fucking bell curves?
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Roleplay has been a popular therapy technique since forever. Why is this anything new?

>>51112407
Underrated post
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>>51112593
>What's "DnD Brain Damage"?

Oh no. The autism is taking root.
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>first day of DnD therapy
>therapist doesn't show up
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>>51113182
>>51112625
I thought you were referring to something within the system, because I'd forgotten about how people use that. I don't usually follow threads that don't do anything but point out flaws of D&D as a system anymore because I've seen enough of them by now to be aware of alternative systems.
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>>51112566
Forcing myself to play a face has been really helpful
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>>51113266
10/10
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Oh, great. It's the Tomb of Traumas again.
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>>51111246
Can someone tell me how a typical therapist session is like ? I need it for a future session ?
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>>51113266
underrated post.
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>paying your dm
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>>51112888
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>>51112407
Kek/10
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>>51111246
i call in a therapist for her
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Rolled 3 (1d20)

>>51112407
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>>51111246
Sounds legit, subjecting patient to something that makes them uncomfortable in the controlled environment to simulate the real experience and gradually build up resistance to it is proven therapeutic procedure.
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>>51112407
Adequately rated post
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>>51113266
2meta4me
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>>51111246
Sure why not, I'm at my 7th shrink now and I mostly continue to go because I'm bored everyday and healthcare fully covers it.
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>>51111889
>>51112888
This idea was surprisingly well-executed
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>>51112888
Well played, sir.
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>>51112566
Actually most of them are about helping people deal with trauma, helping people with anxiety how to cope when they are having panic attacks, and helping those with depression remain grounded when they feel like they are having negative thoughts.

Literally none of the work with roleplaying and therapy that I have heard of involves "teaching autistic people social skills"
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>>51115028
I hope the next time you have some real problem an unexpected and ironic twist of fate would prevent you from having it treated.
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>>51116043
Then that Tom Hanks film lied to me. I don't know what to believe anymore.
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>>51112888
Goodpost, also them trips.
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>>51116050
I do have a problem. I'm bored all the time.
There is nothing I can do to appease it. Nothing I really enjoy.
Mostly I'm depressed without feeling sad so that's that.

When I say I continue to go, I'm not remarking I don't need it anymore, I'm remarking shrinks have never worked a lot.
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>>51112593
>Autism cannot be taught
Fuck you, I lost a friend to MLP.
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>>51111246
While I know that some therapists engage in tabletop rpgs with their pacients, "insisting" is a new one.

That said, there is a correlation. My GM is a psychologist, and he identifies things from their players in their characters. It's hard to explain without being there, but it works.

I once planned to develop a test based on cards with junguian archetypes and roleplaying, but life happened.

>>51112237
Roleplaying (not tabletop, more like larping) is already a common method in brazilian social psychology.

>>51113266
Ouch.

>>51113996
There's not really a "typical" one, but I recommend watching movies like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQht2yOX9Js
The power of the bond between therapist and pacient is wonderfully demonstrated here. One does not remain neutral in front of the pacient, one identifies and uses his own feelings as to further enable the pacient to be himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1iev0zph3o
This series shows as every pacient is unique, and the therapist is human.
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>>51117207
>abandoning a friend because they like that show that people on the internet also like, except you don't like those other people
or
>abandoning a friend because you don't share literally all your interests with them
You're not autistic, but you are socially retarded.
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>>51117207
>I lost a friend to MLP.
You failed them when they needed you most, anon.
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>>51112593
No, but you can learn/be taught habits that mimic the symptoms of autism.

I, personally, have a bad habit of looking at different things in a room while taking to someone because I'm able to hold a conversation without looking people in the eyes (I personally find it really creepy). So, a therapist I was talking too about some minor stress-related depression I was having thought that I might have some mild form autism because I was "avoiding eye contact" when, in fact, I was actually just interested in what the books he had on his bookshelf.
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Fine, but I only play OSR and I want three of your other clients in here as other players.
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>gf goes to therapy for her BPD
I'm imagining her playing a Barbarian who hates going into rages
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>>51112837
>we still codify most fantasy using the race/class system
Yes, D&Dfinder players do shit up the board with "what class was x" shitflinging threads
>have more than five dedicated threads to discussing
and can't keep their shit to a single thread because "Muh editions"
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>>51112597
You have to face your fears, anon.
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>>51117636
Wait, that's a sign of autism? Fuck me, I thought it was just a symptom of a severe lack of self-confidence or a way to focus on what someone was saying. Damnit.
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>>51111246
Fuck off, do your job.
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>>51117636
>when, in fact, I have ADD

Fix'd. I do it all the time, especially things like read all the book spines in a room while engaged in conversation. It lets the spastic parts of my brain wander and catalogue while I pay at least minimum necessary attention to something I deem important or valuable. It's also why I pace on the phone -- it focuses me.
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>>51112407
10/10 breddy gud post
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>>51116942
Go inna woods. Start anew. Or get a farm.

Good old fashion hard labor that your life depends on far more closely than just "don't get paid" - I'm talking Stardew Valley this shit. So living in modern society and it's constant easy-access pleasures and go Amish. If your crops don't grow you starve. Enjoy.

That should occupy the shit out of your time.
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>>51118183
What the fuck are you talking about, if any fanbase shits up TG with their endless threads it's the warhammer fags. They even have multiple general threads.
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>>51122595
This is why I want to move to Alaska so bad. I have chronic suicidal depression.

Either all of the hard labor needed for basic survival will physically and psychologically whip me into shape and I can at least feel pride in myself, even if I am never truly content (let alone happy).

Or, the elements/some wild predator will kill me off and my family can at least say I died living my dream and be some what proud of me. Instead of living in shame by being forced to endure my current presence, or the fact that I committed suicide.

For me, personally, it's a win win situation.
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>>51122667
it's a goal, save a little then go do it
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>>51111246
>your therapist comes to your DnD session
>your therapist brings snacks
>your therapist drives you home
>your therapist marries your dad and becomes your mom
>she still insists that you see her for therapy
>she brings up things you talked about in your sessions at dinner
And that's just the best case scenario. /tg/, you should be smart enough to know that you shouldn't let your therapist be your mom.
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>>51111246
>Am I supposed to identify with the Graveknight?
>"I don't know. Do you?"
>Yes.
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>>51122960
>>your therapist comes to your DnD session
>>your therapist brings snacks
>>your therapist drives you home
>>your therapist marries your dad and becomes your mom
>wait your dad is dead
>your therapist marries you instead
>your therapist still becomes your mom
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>>51117221
All my Therapist/patient sessions from 15 years ago boiled down to
"How does that make you feel?" on fucking loop.

"I want to deck [insert my local guild approved bully]..."
>"How does that make you feel?"
"Angry, just angry..."
>"Well, how does that make you feel?"
"Upset, I mean I just tol-"
>"How does that make you feel?"...

It's quite possible therapy changed over the last 15 years, but for me, it was this infuriating loop of vague fucking platitudes that boiled down to asking 'how I felt' about a subject.
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>>51111246
I don't go to therapists and psychologists anymore. For every good one there's five more that want to put you on have a hundred different medicines and piss all over your medical record with mental illnesses you don't have.
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>>51111246
I had a therapist when I was a kid who got me into MTG.

In retrospect we were clearly playing with his shitty cheapo decks that he didn't mind getting handled a ton, but it was fun at the time.
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>>51116942
>I do have a problem. I'm bored all the time.
ITT: First World problems
but hey, on the flipside at least you're not a tranny
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>>51124439
>implying it's just a First World problem

Even in the worst messes out there, people can still /try/ to be happy. If you can't even try to feel happy, ever, there's something missing from your very being.
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>>51124498
I do no criticize the lack of joy, or attempts to seek it. I criticize the lack of purpose. There might be some overlap between the two, but they are not necessarily the same thing. You can have purpose without joy or joy without purpose.
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>>51124522
>purpose
>without joy

How? A dead-end job that kills you inside even more than NEETdom would isn't "purpose," it's drudgery.
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>>51124522
I do have a purpose, it's not like I am nonfunctioning. But I'm just going through the motions like a high functioning autist mimicking normal behaviors.
And I know that I'm not autist myself because I remember a time it wasn't so.
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>>51119406
It depends, really. Some people avoid eye contact because they're scared, others (also some cultures) just don't do it. And so on.
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>>51124596
There's many motivators besides joy. Pride, hate, sense of duty, greed. We can each attune to what's attainable and best suited for us.

>>51124643
Oh. Seems that I misunderstood at first. Apologies. Carry on doing your part and pursuit of happiness or whatever.
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>>51111246
>Go to therapy
>We just talk for an hour
>I give the lady money
>That's it

Where do I sign up for that job? Literally just talking to people, and getting paid for it to boot.
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>>51112565
Yeah, there's a ton of those. Played a couple at school counseling sessions after a divorce.
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>>51124308
You know, I've had to do several forced therapy sessions over the last couple of years, and they've never come to that at all.

The recent ones have been voluntary, and the fact that the guy is great is likely the only reason I'm still going.
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>>51124775
Like most other specialist jobs, it's more complicated then it seems. For one thing, you have to actually give a shit about the people you're talking about.

For another, you need a decent amount of schooling to have any real credit, and you have to actually be able to help the people you're working with. It's not just about talking, you have to figure out what they're talking about, and how to help them with the issues.
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Therapy is a shit pit when you've got a lazy eyed Indian who barely speaks English.

Mother fucker tries to tell me not to play card games and changes my medication every other week.
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>>51124775
>>51124940
If you're a good smooth talker however, there's a bunch of other jobs that basically amount to your description like coaching wich is just making your whole job of doing maïeutic routines.
They are more or less alternative but if you know how to market yourself you'll get clients as well.

Having tried quite a few shrinks and knowing a coach and hypnotist (my dad and an uncle) I can tell you a good shrink has something more. A bad shrink in't much more than a smoothtalker and the others may or may not be legit but when you know how the gimmick works, you can do all the work yourself.
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>>51118148
What's having a gf with BPD like? I have it and I'm curious to know the other side, but my gf is too nice to say anything negative.
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>>51124940
>you have to actually give a shit about the people you're talking about.
You just have to keep up the impression that you do.
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>>51124990
>Mother fucker tries to tell me not to play card games
that's not necessarily a bad advice
>and changes my medication every other week.
Now this is stupid. Most psy meds take couple weeks before the full effect kicks in and the effectiveness can be judged. Are you sure it's even the same man and not just bunch of look-alike cousins taking turn in the office? "lazy eyed" and "barely speaks English" is about as much of a distinguishing feature as black hair are.
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>>51117207
>lost a friend to a TV show
What.
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>>51124990
Find a different therapist dumbass.

And stop playing Magic.
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>>51116322
That is pretty jarring. If one can't trust a Tom Hanks film, who can they trust?
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>>51127614
I know, right.

Next thing people will be telling me Reefer Madness isn't an accurate portrayal of marijuana.
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>>51127733
>Reefer Madness isn't an accurate portrayal of marijuana

To be honest, it didn't go far enough.
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>>51111246
Now electroshock therapy doesn't seem so bad.
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>>51111246
What's why she's my therapist.
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>>51117207
Unless he turned full furry or started showing you his dakis or some shit, you have no excuse
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>>51111246

>Therapist suggest D&D instead of Gurps
>Walk out and go home
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>>51129027
I am 100% sure there is a GURPS: Therapy supplement
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>>51124990
Are you there for anger? Do you get upset during card games?
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>>51124990
Assuming you aren't there on a court order or something you should probably just consider getting a new one
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>>51113266
Still underrated post.
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