/5eg/ D&D Fifth Edition General

>>51104033
Nice thread Matt

>>51104033
Starting a thread with this douche?

>>51104033
TY for the thread mr matt

>>51104061
>>51104062
Who is this guy and why should I care.

>>51104087
makes videos on YT

>>51104061
>>51104062
>>51104087
he's just some autist with a youtube channel, he's no one special

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how many hours before i can stop lewd camming and read the new UA

>>51104087
Also someone a few threads back accused him of trying to shut down channels he saw as competition. Don't really know what that's about.

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>>51104156
no you dumbass, that's dawnforged cast

matt is just someone video game developer

>>51104169
Well that's good I guess, I actually kinda like his videos.

>>51104033
Sup Matt.
Other than you who should I watch on YT when I need background DnD discussion sounds?

>>51104218
i watch tapletop terrors, webdm, and fistfullofdice

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>>51104218
Well I'm glad you asked! WebDM is basically the only other pair of decent human beings with lots of views, so hit them up and see how they do! Or to spice things up, make a list of D&D youtubers, roll 4d6 down the line, and watch the videos in that order to spice things up at the table! Like, subscribe, and leave some comments in the doobleedoo.

>>51104244
okay the joke is over, back to 5e mechanics/concepts discussion

wats the best way to play D&D online with a bunch of random strangers and should I kys for even thinking about it?

>>51104224
WeDM is pretty cool, I'll look into those other 2 later tonight
>>51104244
And uhh doobleedoo is the description, the blahblah is the comments section. I think you're not Matt

Tales of the Yawning Portal has me all excited and dripping.

>>51104282
i goofed, its afistfullofdice, not sure it'll matter though

Thats it. I a total newfag in here that never played DnD or tabletop RP at all in his whole life. Now thats gonna change.
I have a roll20 account and I am singned in a campaing (but didnt play our first session yet)but I really want to feel what is like to play in real life with my friends.
I already have two friends (maybe three) that are interesed in playing (one of them already made a character) and I am totally willing to be DM. But there is one problem: if I homebrew a campaign with 0 experience I know it is totally going to suck.
So do you have any pdf with a easy-for-begginers campaign? Preferible a one shot or something that isnt that many sessions.

>>51104349
>if I homebrew a campaign with 0 experience I know it is totally going to suck.
Tip: If your players also have 0 experience, they won't know.

>>51104314
Nah I was able to find it still

So one of my players is dealing with some life shit out of the game and its causing him to overreact to in character arguments between the PC's.

Is retconing events that happen in a session ever a good idea? Or should I leave events how they ended up despite knowing that OOC factors played a big part in some of the decision making that ended the last session?

>>51104367
Yeah I know. But I want thwm to have fun in his first time. I want to make sure it is fun for everyone

>>51104385
Lost Mines of Phandelwhaetever is a pretty common newbie campaign, maybe start there. PDF should be in the mega.

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Public Service Announcement:

If you see this book, do NOT buy it. It's written by someone whose knowledge of 5e consists of a half-page crib sheet written in a mix of classic Greek and Rorschach tests.

All the feats are either
A) Meh (get one of the fighter fighting styles)
B) Wildly overpowered (+3 Channel Divinity per day)
C) Completely non-functional ("You don't die until you reach negative HP equal con + level" in a system where you don't die until you fail 3 death saves or are dealt your max HP worth of damage while already at 0 hp).

If you want to see them, pirate it. For the love of all that's holy, don't pay money for the damn thing.

>>51104349
just remember to tell your players that dnd is not a game to win or lose, it's a story to tell

>>51104367
>>51104385

As a fellow new DM I can vouch for this. Play your first few games with people you are comfortable with and are about as new as you.

They will have fun.


If you do want to have a small frame work to work with, I hate to go full circle, but watch Matt Colville's "Running the Game" series. Run his Goblins kidnapping the blacksmiths daughter thing that he describes in that video and if you want, change it up a smidge to make it more you. In my experience, new players wont get through more than 3 combats in a single session unless you have a whole lot of time.

>>51104062
>>51104087
>>51104104
Jelly tards detected.
He does have good points.

>>51104450
Fuck off Matt, you don't have shit.

>>51104156
That's Dawnforgedcast, a really vile piece of shit.
Get your shit together, retard.

>>51104490
noted

>>51104033
I feel like with any other community, Matt's advice would be obvious: take what worked from 4e (and there's a lot of it) to enrich your 5e.

But 5eg has such a hate boner for 4e that they're blind to it.

>>51104412
If you have the PDF can you upload it so we can all laugh along?

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b-b-but 5e is bad, guys!

>>51104462
Haha, I'm not Matt but whatever makes you sleep better at night.
Your level of impotent rage directed at him is retarded though. Where did he touch you?

>>51104490
Wait, what did Dawnforged do? I know the guy, though I haven't actually hung out with him, so if he's a scum-fuck I'd like to know about it.

>TFW I know like, fucking everyone in the D&D content-creator scene personally. Literally everyone.

>>51104412
>Fifth Edition Feats
>5th Edition Compatible
kek

>>51104545
Fun story, right?

I have a program where I dole out DM tips and stuff every week. 90% of what I do is re-answer the same question, especially when it's so fucking obvious.

No one thinks for themselves.

>>51104561
Apparently made fake accounts to spam dislikes and troll in the comments of other D&D youtube content creators.

>>51104561
>>51104591
in order to drive them off to take their viewers for money

>>51104591
I mean, that's shitty, but can one person feasibly make enough fake accounts to do anything other than annoy and/or minorly inconvenience another channel owner?

>>51104545
I was actually planning on pulling some 4e feats up into 5e since 5e has a dearth of feats still compared to all of the other character options.

>>51104412
+3 channel divinity wouldn't be overpowered IMO, since the limits on abilities are too strict already. What does overpowered even mean in the context of a cooperative make believe game?

>>51104427
>>51104407
Thanks guys. I will look those up. This feels pretty exciting

>>51104521
Avoid every one of his video, the guy has a smarmy smugness and has a "only my way is the right way" attitude.
He trolled, belittled and insulted a bunch of rpg youtubers into quitting, made a fake apology video that he has since taken down, and conducted a one-sided interview with Matt Mercer.

His critiques of Acq Inc and Critical Role basically boil down to "this wouldn't how I would run things therefore it's shit" and "it must serious roleplay all the time therefore they are shit".

>>51104602
it's the thought that counts. he also deleted his apology video so that new viewers cant figure out the shit he pulled

he's a fucking loser

>>51104561
Here, mate
>>51104612
How did hanging out with him go?

Since we're slagging off shitty content creators:

Fuck Encounter Roleplay.

Why the fuck a dude who's entire schtick is that no one gives a fuck about rules or character sheets actually makes videos about "How to play D&D" and critiquing homebrew races/classes and shit, I have no fucking idea.

>>51104620
never heard of him

>>51104605
Making select characters who take certain things significantly more powerful than other characters who are built with otherwise sensible options. Especially when the power gap is big enough as to where the over powered character in question is either never challenged by what the GM throws at them or they are challenged by what the GM throws at them whereas everyone else just gets destroyed by it.

>>51104612
>and conducted a one-sided interview with Matt Mercer.
Oh god that cringy fucking editing Matt's sound-clips into an "interview".

Funny story, when I actually had Matt on my show, I posted a promo on Facebook and at least 5 or 6 responses I got were "Is this for real, or something shitty like that fake interview Dawnforged did?"

And THEN, the dude actually had the balls to ask me on Twitter if I could convince Matt to do a real interview with him.

>>51104561
Ask him why he trolled, belittled and insulted other people.

The fact you don't know about it makes it worse.

>>51104630
Fuckin' thank god. I cannot stand the dude. He represents everything I think is shitty about content creators/streamers, and somehow pulls in massive viewers & money doing it.

>>51104349
There's a PDF for lost mines of phandelver in the Mega. It's generally considered a solid starting adventure for new gms and players

>>51104644
>Funny story, when I actually had Matt on my show, I posted a promo on Facebook and at least 5 or 6 responses I got were "Is this for real, or something shitty like that fake interview Dawnforged did?"
who are you?

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So anyways, in not youtube drama news, Anything interesting happen in your last session? I think I broke my Sorc, threw a Flail Snail at the party, and he still tried to be Blasty McBlasterson, aster I had an NPC tell the party that Flail Snail shells are very valuable because of their magic reflective properties.

To be fair, he said hordes of goblins and bugbears were too easy for the group.

>>51104602
Yes, he's still doing it. He's made some trolling in the comments saying other youtubers are shit and shilling his own channel and website.

>>51104634
I see, and I guess I agree. I don't really think a cleric having three more uses of channel divinity would break anything, but attaching it on a feat tax so that people who don't know about it are less powerful would be bad.

Really, that's one of the major problems with sharpshooter and crossbow expert.

>>51104610
I remember when I first started DMing, its the most fun I had had in a long time. You should be excited

>>51104678

They should have some kind of process for dealing with feats that end up being feat taxes, like just rolling them into base classes.

>>51104665
I started a new campaign for my group. Two rogues and a monk. The rogues are really all about running a heist campaign, and the monk is a devout Buddhist who refuses to steal anything, but tags along because the rogues are planning to steal from the people who murdered his temple, and he might get some info from them.

>>51104716
I've wanted to run a heist campaign, it seems like a good way to let the that guys be edgy but at the same time not murder hobos since I'm assuming going in guns blazing to steal some high security shit will probably not go well.

>>51104644
literally who?

>>51104620
At least he isn't Dawnforgedcast and doesn't go around talking shit about others.

>>51104644
I'm calling b8 but if you want to challenge me as an autist, i'll find every matt mercer interview on youtube and slim down the picking to help deduce who you are

>>51104273
Roll20.
No but you will want to kill yourself sometime afterward. 80% of online group are fills with austistic guys who got kick from normal table.

>>51104644
Yeah, it's what the actual fuck and why would you do that. Dawnforgedcast just exposed how much of a literal shit he is.

>>51104663
>>51104785
???

>>51104349
There are a bunch of "pay whay you want" one-shotted adventurer in dms guild and drivethrough rpg.

Maybe fiery grog tavern or something?

>>51104833
you just said you interviewed matt mercer you dumbass

Christ I wanna see all the new goodies for the Mystic.

>>51104882
i want the sohei

eldritch knight is my favorite so if it plays anything like it i'll be a happy camper

>>51104561
He forced a bunch of people to quit YouTube by insulting them so much that they decided it was just better to quit.

He got caught out on this, said all of that wasn't him but his sick brother's doing or a fan's doing. Then got caught out on that. He then made a crocodile-teared apology video that he since taken that down. Because new fans shouldn't see that.

He's since gone back to his old ways. He keeps saying all other youtubers are shit compared to him, doesn't do what he does and that you should go to his channel and website instead.

>>51104716
You should just play shadownrun.

>>51104556
How so?
Compared to what?

>>51104603
Nice, are you going to amp them up to 5e feats?

>>51104833
>>51104644
>>51104663
>>51104785

If you're real, and I assume you aren't, you are itmeJP.

itmeJP was the only person to have a Matt Mercer interview after the fake DFC one.

i fucking sucks that dawnforged cast is getting away with being a shithead

is there anything we can do to shut his channel down? he's honestly one of the few people who deserves it

>>51104823
'Aight man.

>>51104881
I'm not that guy.

>>51104959
you just said you did

>>51104953

Sup JP

>>51104941
That's pretty cool.
I'm not that guy though. Good for him.

This is how you interview someone. You don't just fucking insery soundclips into your shill video. Fucking hell.

>>51104881
That was me.

>>51104941
>you are itmeJP.
Hahah, no man. But I've talked to JP (surprise, he's a douche).

>itmeJP was the only person to have a Matt Mercer interview
Nope. Though, to be fair, I'm no one special and my channel is nothing, so it's not like anyone would know about it outside of the few thousand that saw it.

>>51104978
Why do you guys think I'm JP, and why do you think JP would post on /tg/?

>>51104982
why would matt talk to a nobody?

>>51104988
Fuck if I know. I asked, he said yes, and somehow it happened.

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>>51104982

>>51104948
Yeah man, we legit should. He hasn't even learned what he did wrong because he's still doing it. Like what the actual fuck. You just don't insult people in the hobby that way and shill your videos so much because you want to become the "leader".
Doing shit like that shows you have no leadership qualities or potential whatsoever.

>>51105003
post the video

>>51105004
Yeah you're right.

I'll stop answering now.

>>51104988
Because Matt is a good guy? He legit seems chill af and friendly.

>>51105008
exactly, deleting his "apology" video shows he's not sorry and wants to deceive viewers

should we report him for harassment or something? that drama is old news but youtube policy has changed

>>51104988
>>51105004
Stop acting like Dawnforgedcast.

>>51104033
How do I Sorcerer? I know Wild Magic is fucking stupid, so Dragonic is the way. What does one do to be good at just "knowing" magic?

>>51105018
Nicest dude I've ever met, seriously.

>>51105025
Yeah, too right. We really should. How do go about doing it?

>>51105037
Practice. Like the X-men do.

>>51105036
by telling an attention whore with no proof to fuck off?

>>51105037
>Wild Magic is fucking stupid
You shut your whore mouth

>>51105057
with what dragon bloodline and what spells? I have never played a full caster.

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>>51105051

>>51105067
What proof do you want? A link to the video just so you can go post a shitty comment or spam the link around?

>>51105087
you cant say you've talked to matt, say you have proof of it, and then not show it

if it's real i want to watch it because i want to see matt being interviewed, not for you

>>51105037
Honestly without Wild Magic you are just a bad wizard. Sorcs are doomed to be sub optimal, or lolrandumb.

>>51105073
Storm bloodline. Laugh at puny dragon.

>>51105096
Come on man, either it's being an attention whore, or it's giving you proof and a video to watch. You can't have it both ways.

>>51105120
an attention whore is someone without proof

>>51105073
Depend in what kind of role you want to be.

Sorcerer has a niche as a buffer. Able to twin cast buff spell like haste. But you can also spam blast and cantrip with quicken spell.

that dawnforged fucker has 80,000 fucking subs

there's no justice in this world

>>51105125
Nope, attention whores shill their videos.

>>51105131
Advertisement and viral is everything man. Even a bad advertisement is better than none. You can build brand loyalty later.

>>51105038
Yeah, we need more people like him in the hobby and not shits who would blitheringly insult people under different guises, not claim responsibility and just keep doing it.

>>51105067
Come on man, don't be like that. Don't be a shit.

>>51105079
Heh, we'll find a way. >>51105131

>>51105131
Fucking why? What the actual fuck, his corpulent ass needs to be taken down.

>>51105139
Imma spoiler this now because I just don't want to be the only topic here:
I've hung out with a LOT of people at this point, like you name them and I've probably done a show with them, and I can give you a list of who the actual chill and cool guys are and who's just generally a shit.

Adam Koebel? Knowledgeable as fuck and game philosophy out the ass, but will literally give you a lecture if you talk about using a trope he's personally tired of/offended by.

>>51105238
At this point I legitimately just want to watch your channel. I'm a DM who just stands on the shoulders of giants, and if you have access to the giants, I want in.

>>51105238
Give more gossip pls

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>enjoy building and planning campaigns and encounters
>don't enjoy actually DMing

>>51104033
>>51104062
>>51104087
I have never been more disgusted in this hobby then when I stumbled across this nu-male faggots gender in dnd videos. "white males can't hurt and walk all over ppl of color and women anymore! So just make way and don't think for a second you can be the center of a dndd game! The reason why there aren't more female players is all male dnd players verbally RAPE them"
>I always heard fantasy genres had their dong cut off but never noticed personally because I only read king killer chronicles and Dresden files as far as fiction.
>seeing all of the gross capitulation of new male board gamers in the comment section makes me feel shamed for how the majority of our hobby now acts politically/socially.

>>51105238
You don't sound like a literal shit like Dawnforgedcast.

We've finally gotten to the point of play where our party's cleric has access to the "revivify" spell. Are my fears of this knocking the tension out of encounters unwarranted, or is death becoming cheap just part of mid-level play?

>>51105313
did coleville actually say this?

>>51105313
What the fuck are you blathering about? Do you need help?

>>51105263
I'm actually really shit and not very good at what I do.

>>51105281
Who do you want to know about?
I really like chilling with Jerry Holkins, he's fucking awesome to shoot the shit with. I am almost positive Mike Mearls hates me for some reason. I like hanging out with Chris Perkins but everything he says outside of on-screen D&D talk is SJW nonsense.

>>51105324
just make then use a lot of spells during the encounter and try to keep their gold intake low

or make it to where they can only carry so much gold on them at a time

>>51105325
It's a copypasta I'm pretty sure

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>>51105334
>perkins is an sjw

damn

oh well, at least he's not overt about it

>>51105298
write things down so other DMs can benefit from your encounters and campaigns. Idk how DM's Guild works but I think you get like pocket change for the stuff you put up.

>>51105351
>at least he's not overt about it
Unless you follow him on Twitter.

I've counted at least 10 "Can we please end white people?" retweets this week.

>>51105365
please tell me this isnt true

i'm too afraid to look

>>51105376
So, I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but EVERYONE in the RPG industry & community is a rabid SJW. Every. Fucking. One.

It's not like it is here on 4chan, out in the real world. I'm still to this day finding new people that have blocked me that I've never even met or interacted with, all because one time I told Greg Tito that the new Baldur's Gate expansion wasn't written very well, and some (apparently) trans person got into an argument saying I only hated Amber Scott's work because she was a woman.

Hell, Wil Wheaton recently posted a block list that I'm apparently on.

I can't say shit on social media about anything, or I'll get completely blacklisted by the entire industry.

>>51104934
Yea, I'm just disappointing with the available character options in 5e in general, and adding feats seems like a simple way to give people a lot more options, even if most people would only consider taking a couple feats anyway.

Since 4e has a lot of them it shouldn't be that hard to take some of the feats there and apply them to 5e. If I ever get around to it I'll definitley post the list here and ask for feedback, maybe even ask people to run stuff with them to actually see if they work properly in practice.

>>51105414
i want off this ride

I know I'm asking in the wrong place but there's no fucking threads about 4e anymore.

Does anyone know how to get the 4e character builder? Wizards let it go out of date and it doesn't work on any computer I have anymore.

>>51105334
What is Perkins really like?
Is he also gay?

>>51105351
>>51105365
>>51105376
Nah, he just really doesn't like Trump. He's also Canadian.

>>51105376
It isn't true.
I have no idea.


Game question: have they come out with rules for PCs to make traps yet? Our campaign is in a dorf-fortress type scenario right now & I, being a druid, was wanting to lay some entangle traps in the brambles I planted around our base.

>>51105414
That's fucking insane and retarded as shit.
Are they all legitimately brain damaged?

>>51105442
Alright so the Character Builder for 4E: If you're lucky, you might find one of the old torrents with it, but bear in mind that it only had content up to a certain point, because after like, June 2011 they went 100% web-based and dropped support for it.

But outside of those old 4E package torrents, it probably doesn't exist.

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>>51104033
>New 5e book announced: Tales from the Yawning Portal
>Selling fan made adaptions of old work
>People will unironically spend real money on this

Would you say that there's a "Starting Class" for someone's first game? Something that you'd suggest a new person to try first?

>>51105432
Cool as, you should post some/them here.

>>51105444
>What is Perkins really like?
He's really personable, very excitable and loud. Just...can't fucking shut up about "inclusive this" and "compassionate that".

Yes, he's gay, but everyone knows that.

Did I make a bad call /tg/?

My group of PC's just got out of the Underdark after having to go investigate it based upon rumors of spores that made miners go mad. They killed the cause and all was well and good.
Upon returning to turn in their information and get paid, one of them (CN Elf Rogue in a party full of CG's and LG's) decides to leave and try to head back into the Underdark via the city's mine. He sneaks in and finds the entrance that they blew into the wall has caved in. He gets mad and then kills the first guard he sees. The party seemed fed up, and he admitted to them using message that he killed an innocent man for no reason. He had several opportunities to break free and either couldn't make the DC, or just chose to taunt the guards instead.
He was hanged and nobody else seems to mind, and the player says they have no want to roll up a new character, because they were too attached to the old one. But nobody wants to revive him, and his body and gear was taken by the city because he murdered a guard with a sword LITERALLY made of darkness.

>>51105457
Ah alright I'll troll around for torrents then, old content is fine since I wasn't planning on being a psion or something fancy. Thanks!

>>51105468
Not really. I'd say have a personality in mind first, and build the stats around that.

>>51105455
>Are they all legitimately brain damaged?
Yes.

Their solution to literally everything seems to be "Call this person a racist/bigot/etc. and then block them so they can never respond and also put them on a block list so everyone who subscribes to it will automatically block them without ever knowing who they are or what they did to deserve it."

You know that episode of Black Mirror? Yeah, the thing is, everyone watched it, but no one internalized the message.

>>51105474
>He's really personable, very excitable and loud. Just...can't fucking shut up about "inclusive this" and "compassionate that".
What's bad about that? He seems charismatic.

>Yes, he's gay, but everyone knows that.
Wat.

>>51105479
Not in the slightest.

If he chose to fuck around, he chose to get hanged. If he doesn't want to roll up a new character, AND the party doesn't want to revive him, then give him the choice of rolling or leaving the game.

>>51105479
You don't get to go off on your own, commit acts that go against the group's wishes/alignment, and then beg for them to go on a quest to fetch your remains when you die.

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>>51105468
With 5e? Nah
Just some up with a cool idea for a PC, look through the PHB, roll the stats and if they match super
If not then you have to adapt.

Be warned that even though the Barb may seem simple, it relies on RP to be any fun

>>51105504
>What's bad about that?
This nigga serious?

>Wat
Son this isn't news.

>>51105479
No, decisions have repercussions, he went chaotic stupid, and got burnt for it. If you really want, you could give him a high difficulty side arc as he tries to escape hell, but it'd have to be the sort of thing where only exceptionally clever thinking gets him free.

If you do do that, do it at a separate time from the rest of the group, or get their okay to waste all their time with this story.

>>51105515
Just because you're not charismatic doesn't mean he isn't.

That is news to me.

>>51105504
>What's bad about that?
Making every story "inclussive" takes away a lot of the drama. A major part of interaction is hate based, if you take that away, PCs lose a lot of the driving force in their stories.

Peaceful coexistence is all well & good for a real world goal, but it makes for an incredibly dull story.

>>51105537
>Just because you're not charismatic doesn't mean he isn't.
I don't care how charismatic someone is, constant annoying talk about SJW shit for no actual reason is still annoying and pointless and just makes you sound like a tool.

Can someone please answer me?
>>51105451
>have they come out with rules for PCs to make traps yet?

>>51105550
Not that I've read, clerics can make mines with their spells. And there are rules for explosives. If you just want to make a vietnam style gauntlet just limit it to spell storing/cantrip damage suitable for your level. Or find a module in the same level range and setting as your campaign, then steal traps from it.

>>51105550
The only thing I can think of are exploding runes from glyph of warding

>>51105564
>>51105577
Alright, thanks. I'm just trying to lay some entangle spell traps in the bramble hedge around our base. Guess I'll try to spin it as crafting a common magic item or something.

>>51105582
You're the DM, don't worry so much about the RAW rules.

Fuck if you got a druid have them start harvesting some plant based monsters to defend the base, players can douse themselves in friendly planet pheromone so they won't attack them. Go nuts.

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>Join new campaign
>group decides roll for stats instead of our usual point buy
>roll 18, 17, 16, 13, 14, and a 9

>>51105594
>You're the DM
No, I'm a player. I said that in my original post. My DM just prefers if rules are already made for things, since it's easier on him.

>>51105604
Ah okay that makes a lot more sense. In that case you can't use the druids commune with nature spell to do something similar?

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>>51105599
I did the same earlier, but with less great results.

6, 11, 11, 10, 14, 14.

I'm a level 7 Half-Elf Bard who plays what looks like an electric guitar. I took Pyrotechnics and Illusionary Terrain in order to create a stage entrance every encounter. The guitar is imbued with Thaumaturgy as my amplifier

>>51105599
Take your chance to play a monk that is actually good.

>>51105539
An anecdote: I rolled up a paladin for a quick campaign a while back, and for this game, knowing that it wouldn't be very story-driven, I was more concerned with the mechanics of the character than the character itself. On a whim, I thought I'd make them female, and thought nothing of it. But even though they were pretty butch, their sex immediately changed the way certain NPCs and PCs treated her, because it was that kind of world. Sometimes she was treated favorably, sometimes unfavorably, and that was a cause of tension. A tension that would've been lost in a world of perfectly beige cylindrical equality.

>>51105599
With these kinda rolls you can play something completely off race. Like a tiefling monk or gnome barbarian or whatever the fuck. Have fun.

>>51105682
I had already decided I was gonna play a mountain dwarf fighter for the campaign, so I stuck with that. 20 con and 19 str sure is fun at level 1. Also pretty great that 4 out of 5 of our party members went Dwarf and the last went human ranger, feels like some lotr shit.

So,/tg/,do you/your DM ever roll social stuff like intimate,bluff or other shit AGAINST the player?

>>51105550
Not really per se.

Speaking of, what rules, new classes and archetypes, and monsters would people like to see?

Is Perkins really gay? He just struck me as eccentric.

>>51105468
Champion fighter is a very simple class for starters, but the game is interesting because of rp, so rolling character traits from the phb is a good idea.

Does anyone have a tool for making more powerful magic items? I have a site for weak ones
>http://www.lordbyng.net/inspiration/results.php

>>51104665

One of my party members poisoned an entire order of paladins to death behind my back. The other burned down the mayor's house.

My character never found out. Although he wouldn't have minded much if he did.

>bards are almost exclusively played by cringey fedoralords who lack real life charisma

How come?

>>51105776
>Bard player wants to bring their instrument to the table
>Without fail, they can't play for shit and they suck at singing

>>51105719
More low cr beasts for non moon droods would be cool, maybe something that can compete with polar bear, so moon gets some variety

Low cr aberrations maybe? Swarming Aberrations?

>>51104298
Same, anon. Especially since it has White Plume Mountain.

>>51105787
>persuasion attempts are piss poor but he rolled a high number so it's ok

>>51105745
Its probably something you should do by hand, trusting that shit to RNGesus is a surefire way to make something OP.
IMO anyways

>>51105313
Why so butthurt?
He seems like one of the more insightful you tubers to discuss D&D that I have come across. Plus he is quite open about the fact that everything he discusses is like his opinion man.

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>>51105800
I fucking hate players who roll Nat20's and assume its an automatic success in every way no matter what without fail.

>DMing
>player bites off more than he can chew with BBEG
>gets knocked down to like 10HP
>asks to roll a persuasion
>im tired and accidentally let him roll before he chooses what to say
>he rolls a nat 20
>everyone freaking out
>he looks up to the BBEG
>"heeeeeey, come on, what are we doinggg?"
>BBEG retracts weapon and is confused
>player then tells him he fucking hates him
>gets fucking dicked and dies
>is then mad at me that his persuasion didnt end the fight

Anybody else got frustrating nat20 player stories?

Are there any resources for playable curseborn drow in 5E?

Anyone have a good source for minis? I live on an island with only a tiny game shop, so I have to use the internet. While it's easy to find excellent warriors, mages, and thieves, I haven't found a good mini for a druid or monk yet...which are what I want to try since they're nerfed/buffed to be more normalized in 5e now and I like the flavor.

>>51105863
No frustrating ones, but I hate getting nat20s when it's just a basic check.

>"I want to eavesdrop on their conversation"
>"roll stealth"
>20 (+ double proficiency, as if it mattered)
>"you can hear their thoughts?"

>>51105325
One of the only things I've heard him say is him correcting himself on using male gender nouns when talking about dming. Pretty retarded as nobody would've ever brought it up if he didnt.

>>51105863
Nat20 mean autosuccess to me, to what degree is up to the DM

>want to look up at the sky
> roll perception-> Nat20
> what do I see?
> clear blue sky...
>anything else?Dragon, Skyships?
>no, cause there is nothing going on in the sky

>>51105863
Hostile creature DC 20 Cha check would give

The creature does as asked as long as no risks or sacrifices are involved

A BBEG not killing a PC is a risk, hence it would fail

>>51105875
Heroforge for 3d printed customized minis, they're not the best quality and are pricey.

You can find a ton of dnd minis on miniaturemarket, trollandtoaf, coolstuffinc, etc for relatively cheap

Reaper miniatures are amazing bang for your buck.

Other than those ones, keep an eye out for loadsa plastic games on kickstarter, shipping might fuck you though.

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Anyone have any cool dice? I just ordered pic related because they're cheap but a step up from bulk buy stuff.

Anyone shell out for hardcore metal ones?

Alexis Smolensk thinks Chris Perkins is an asshole, is he an asshole? Is Alexis a shit?

http://tao-dnd.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/the-distraction.html

>>51105800
I would let his pass. It would open a can of worm other wise.

> Fighter players can't handle weapon in RL, is it okay for them to attack if they roll high number?
> Wizard players aren't at Einstien level Intelligence, is it for them to even think?
> Cleric player is atheist...

and so on and so on.

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>>51105989
A friend of mine has pic related, they are pretty satisfying to roll in a cardboard rolling box, but are painful to listen to when rolled on glass and they leave dents in wood, so over all I'm not sure if they were worth the extra money. I personally have difficulty justifying spending more than 10 dollars on 7 dice.

One of my players has a set of Game Science dice and if anything he rolls consistently worse than everyone else. So my guess is that my other players lucked out with unbalanced chessex stuff that just happened to favor higher numbers.

>>51106022
With the only exception that charisma and persuasion are one of the few things the player himself directly influences

If you can't come up with something just say in third person that your char convinced the target but a half assed attempt can ruin the atmosphere


Guard: I won't let your through , order of my Lord!
Bard (nat20): Please!
Guard: Ok

Need some third party evaluation on good GM/bad GM:

>my character is a charlatan, has second identity as a minor noble in Waterdeep
>claims being such to a lord and lady of another city
>"I know nobles in Waterdeep, you're not one of them"

>is a Lolth worshipper but successfully persuades gate guards of surface drow city that he is a Vhaeraun worshipper
>meets with the leader of the city
>"I can smell Lolth on you"
>"no, I'm Vhaeraun all the way"
>no persuasion/deception checks involved

>"I throw my dagger at the hag"
>GM has my character run up to her and stab the hag instead because it's the final blow and it was cooler in her mind to stab rather than throw

She's pretty good on most stuff, but considering my character is built around pretending to be someone other than he is, I feel like I can't get away with anything.

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>>51105989
Just ordered pic related because they look cool as fuck; I wonder if the numbers are clear though.

>>51105863

>>Missing an opportunity to have the villain Monologue over a defeated PC
>>Missing an opportunity to have a philosophic debate over the differences and motivations between villain and PC
>>Everyone failed at this table

>>51106107
There was no monologue, but they did have a debate over their stances on necromastery and whether it was morally just to try to hone it to bring back loved ones.

So is polearm fighting the best way to go about being a fighter in 5e?

>>51106079
I can tell you right now they're not.

Is it possible, using Crossbow Expert, to have a shield in one hand and a hand crossbow in the other? Crossbow Expert lets me ignore the loading feature, so I shouldn't need to have a hand free to shoot and reload, right?

>>51106139
You still need to reload the crossbow.

>>51106046
>unbalanced chessex stuff
It's pretty simple to check dice for balance fyi. You just need warm water in a cup with enough salt (doesn't have to be table salt, epsom salts work fine) so the die will float. Then you can plop it in and see what number comes up on top. Give it a poke to upset the die and see what number comes up again. Do this a couple times and it will be pretty obvious if the die always returns to the same number (unbalanced) or not (balanced).

>>51106046
I have difficulty justifying it too, but it feels so basic using cheap plastic stuff for whatever reason.

But the price gap between the basics and the metal ones is so drastic. Considering it's just a lump of metal, you'd think you could find some mid-range options at £20 or so.

Might just get a metal d20 and keep to plastic for the rest. I do like the look of those dwarven ones, I saw them while browsing around.

I have a mild craving for others to look at my dice and be like "those are cool". I feel it lends credibility.

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>>51106046
Ayy, I have those. They are great and super satisfying to roll. Sort of annoying loud as we play in a fucking echo chamber though.

>>51106068
Bad.

At least, in those examples, bad.

Who's ready for Undead and Fey Ranger?

>>51106143
So I'll need to doff my shield after each shot to get a free hand to reload with?

>>51104380
I think about the last half hour of a long session should be somewhat mutable. People are rarely on the top of their game, so that most stupid decisions happen then.

Outside of that, it can be ok, if used rarely. If your player is prone to overreactions due to outside factors, rather call him out on it, give him a moment to collect himself and change his approach then (Do you really want to do that?).

Overusing it for one player too much will come off as playing favorites and harm the experience in the long run

>>51106132
Polearm paladin is better

>>51106136
Whatever, they look cool anyway, especially as death dice.
Yes, I do like to have differently coloured dice for different kinds of rolls/situations, don't judge.

>>51106193
Whatever floats your boat. I just know that they annoyed me so much I stopped using them after a single session.

>>51106132

Debatable

Really its GWM that makes you a melee monster that does all the damages. The choice you need to make is if you want to invest another two feats to maximize Polearm usage because getting Sentinel and PAM are fucking amazing.A guy with just GWM could just about match you in battle AND do things like max out Str and grab feats like Alertness Lucky or Resilient [Wis]. Both paths work just fine and you can add in Battlemaster Sharpshooters as the third major killer Fighter

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Can someone proofread this for me? in my setting, gnomes went too far trying to manipulate processed magic crystals (radiation) and an accident destroyed their city and turned all survivors into ratlings, killing hundreds of dwarven ambassadors and leaving them exposed to other warmongering races

“Westington Schurtz, once the proud gnomish chief scientist, laid chained wrist, ankles and snout to the floor of Veterum´s grand hall. The ambassadors were led into the room, cuffed, As the high executioner sharpened his axe and Lord Ygdramar dictated the sentence of a whole race“

>>51106228
The "laid chained wrist" bit doesn't make much sense. Could be "laid on the floor with wrists, ankles, and snout chained" or "lay chained by his wrists, ankles and snout to the floor".

"As" following "cuffed" doesn't need capitals.
Would for readability add a comma after "axe".

>>51106214
But a lot of polearms are compatible with GWM.

>>51106261
Scratch second suggestion, would go with "lay chained to the floor by his etc."

>>51106068
This is bad GMing. Have you tried talking to her?

>>51106261
Thank you very much, it´s just small stuff i need to weed out since im not a native english speaker. I´ll be coming back with quotes for the other 11 races of the setting. Sometimes i wonder if i do too much shit

>>51106228
>hundreds of dwarven ambassadors
That's an extremely diplomatic race huh

>>51106211
THAT bad, or are you just iffy with those things?

>>51106068
If she's new,DM a game yourself,at least a one-shot and show what she does bad in action.
Otherwise just call her on.

>>51106272
>>51106313

It was only the first session and she's new to it, yeah so I'm inclined to let her find her feet first.

But I'm also new to D&D (have done other tabletops before, mostly homebrew) so I wanted to check I wasn't just being dumb and complaining about normal things. For all I know the Lolth thing was due to an enchanted item and the lord and lady knew every single noble in Waterdeep(?)

She did also have a dragon fly in and kill someone who was trying to burn a forest down because she didn't want to work around it. I found it slightly jarring, even if he was being That Guy.

But yeah, she's new to being on the other side of the table so I'm not too bothered unless it gets really crazy later on.

>>51106285
it was 2 cities, 120k ppl each, right next to each other, in a continent full of honorabru bird like dandies that use katanas and befriend anything they cant cut. Im pretty sure they had to coordinate a lot of military and strategic resources n shiet

>>51106132
>>51106214
Having played polearm paladin I'd say it's just more reliable than op.

My sorcerer can kill the paladin way easier than vice versa, and a barbarian could probably kill both with a little luck. There's not going to be some fuck you I kill the whole party build pre level 10 I don't think.

>>51106183
>• You ignore the loading quality of crossbows with which you are proficient.
This means I can ignore
>Loading. Because of the time required to load this weapon, you can fire only one piece of ammunition from it when you use an action, bonus action, or reaction to fire it, regardless of the number of attacks you can normally make
, which means I'm not limited to firing only one piece of ammunition per action/bonus/reaction used. More importantly, it means I can ignore "because of the time required to load this weapon", ie, loading is now either instantaneous or no longer problematic when I'm attacking.
>Ammunition. You can use a weapon that has the ammunition property to make a ranged attack only if you have ammunition to fire from the weapon. Each time you attack with the weapon, you expend one piece of ammunition. Drawing the ammunition from a quiver, case, or other container is part of the attack. At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield. If you use a weapon that has the ammunition property to make a melee attack, you treat the weapon as an improvised weapon (see "Improvised Weapons" later in the section). A sling must be loaded to deal any damage when used in this way.
This explicitly says that loading ammunition into my crossbow (drawing the bolt from a quiver) is done as part of the attack. Since the hand crossbow isn't two-handed, I should be able to make an attack with it using only one hand. That attack includes the loading. As if that wasn't enough, the hand crossbow is explicitly a light weapon, meant to be used with another weapon in the other hand.

What I mean is, I don't see why I can't have a shield in one hand and a hand crossbow in the other. I should be able to load the hand crossbow using just the hand it is in. It doesn't make much sense irl, I agree, but rule-wise it should work.

>>51106383
You're absolutely right, you can have a shield in one hand and a hand crossbow in the other. But you can't several times with a hand crossbow anyway. If you use your action and your bonus action to shoot, then that's two separate attack actions. You still only fire one bolt per attack.

>>51106143
nah. without loading crossbows behave like a bow, you're assumed to automatically load it when you fire it. so his hand crossbow would behave like a bow except it only requires one hand

How viable would it be to buy a bunch of mastiffs and train them as attack dogs? I mean you can tame animals without being a "proper" Beast Master, right?

>>51106561
Don't bother with mastiffs, just get a bunch of elephants. Half the price of a warhorse!

>>51106561
I'd allow it if I were DM and you had 3~months downtime.

But keep in mind that they'd die pretty quick.
And they'd be no better than trained guards.

>>51106561
Literally what Animal Handling is for.

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You need to cross the bridge across this seaside mountainous valley. Before crossing, you hear loud flaps and a roar. The bridge keeper has arrived, a huge adult Copper Dragon. He perches at the other end of the bridge.

What does he want, /5eg/?

>>51106598
He wishes to marry the bard's horse.

>>51106561
Still need to use your action to direct one in combat. So what's the point? Just get guards.

>>51106598
I roll to seduce.

>>51106598
tendies

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>51106607
My dragonblood sorcerer yells "Ey boi what up! We killin' some orcs you want in on this action son!?"

Roll diplomacy.

>>51106598
Talk to him like a reasonable person.

>>51106598
I assume for me not to cross the bridge

>>51106598
News from wherever the party is from. Any "recent" (read: within the last 500 years) happenings would be lovely to talk about.

>>51106575
>>51106605
How about Giant Apes?

>>51106632
Whatever you can do with your hands/sword/axe/spells/dick is miles better than what anyone/anything you're ordering around can do.

>>51106632
> 7 INT
Pretty sure it would train you.

>>51105442
You just missed one yesterday. Though, it didn't have the usual OP so here, I copied one from an archive:

>Useful resources: http://pastebin.com/85Hm56k5
>Online compendium: http://funin.space/

>>51106729
Thanks Anon, that's actually super helpful for my group!

>>51105871
I shall take that as a no.

I like fifth edition, but customisation seems so dependent on the GM rather than built-in design.

>>51106798
Welcome to bounded accuracy, where you get exactly what you pay for: not much.

>>51106798
Are you the DM?

If so, just look around until you find a homebrew race that works for you. If you arent the DM, do the same and run it by them.

You'd be right, 5e is more about guidelines with basic rules to follow and the rest is up to the DM to create.

>>51105539
That`s it? You invade a 5e thread with your /pol/ piss because you are so uncreative that you can only hate someone for gender and race? D&D is a universe with fucking different humanoid species. I would not care if my neighbor was a nigger or faggot when the alternative could be a fucking orc or a snotty little halfling with their weird heads.

Why is everything that isnt the equivalent of /pol/ jerking itself off automatically flagged as SJW or pandering? Cant it just be that one person`s worlview should not restrict what kind of character`s that can exist that others might enjoy in a make-believe fantasy game?

>>51106834
>Peaceful coexistence is all well & good for a real world goal
>/pol/ piss

What are you on about?

>>51106767
Glad to help. Remember to spread the word, and keep some backups.

>>51105863
The player's a dick, but you failed to make the situation interesting even if you didn't want to do a bullshit turn them to your side moment.

In the Elemental Evil campaign I had a player roll a nat 20 and "turn" Aerisi over to their side. I just then had her stab them in the back later when they killed the earth prince because the players were thinking with their dicks. Give agency and motivations to NPCs instead of just getting pissy.

>>51106068
>First two.
She might have a reason for those two specific NPCs, try asking her if there is an in-world reason why those two people could see through you without you making a check. If there is one, great! Keep on playing and avoid those two NPCs while doing your charlatan business.
If there is no reason, try to explain that your character is built around a specific concept and the way she is handling it is shutting that concept down,

>Last one
Fuuuck thats annoying. Describing actions should follow and build upon previous descriptions, not overwrite them. If it happens once, sure. If its repeated, talk it out.

in both issues. If talking it out does not work, consider leaving, or switching character for the first two.

>>51106851
>Making a story "inclusive" takes away drama.

Thats the /pol/ piss I am on about.

>>51106926
But that would involve actual work for the DM.

When's the new UA releasing?

>>51106995
Usually around the afternoon in burgerland

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>>51106926
I was considering having them stalemate and having the villain pardon and let them go.

But the player started motherfucking him right after his persuasion, so I considered it over and back to square one.

>>51107024
Have the villain fuck with them then, or something. He DID roll a 20, have fun playing the villain instead of lol stab.

>>51106995
Today

>>51107001
>>51107075
My today is already tomorrow.
We won in the future btw.

WE
WANT
UNDERDARK

PLEASE WOTC

>>51106826
> 5e
> Homebrew
No. Refluff is better. Unless you want DandDwiki tier horror.

>>51107098
I'll show you an Underdark
*unzips dick*

>>51107111
Where is it?

>>51104033
I wish his videos weren't 20 mins of nothing and 5 mins of useful information

>>51107120
His videos are quite good, but that Ghostbusters video earned an unsubscribe.

Not for the opinion itself, but the nerve to so blatantly cry fascism. Shocking, really.

>>51107098
We already got it dumbass

>>51106268

No fucking shit

Its exactly why I said "You get to invest in other feats" in the first place A guy with GWM/PAM/Sentinel is about as good as a guy with GWM/Alertness/Lucky in the grand scheme of things

>>51106333

Trips checked

Ive also done full Polearm using Paladin and its great. You kind of get around worrying about whether you should have taken a Resilient feat since your Cha+ to Saves helps cover you. The only thing that can keep up with you in damage is another character with basically the same build be it a Fighter Barb or other Paladin

>>51107352
Polearm paladin do good damage. But it can't beat a Sharpshooter + GWM improvised longbow.

>>51107292
I have no idea what the ghostbusters thing was, but I feel like there needs to be a "are you sure you want to say something overtly political on social media" warning for anyone with a fanbase that predates social media.

>>51106561

This is one of the things thats a tough point to deal with since its completely fucking unrealistic that your trained attack dogs stay there doing nothing after you tell them to murder something and this IS supposed to be a game that turns back the clock and lets common sense go over mechanics

>>51107395
Honestly that's why I use animate objects with vague orders like "kill anything I don't like."

It's more reliable than animate dead, and it really pushes the point that the party should give me the biggest share of the loot in case one of these days the animated swords start looking at them funny.

>>51107391

When you go Polearm your going all the way even if you need to wait a while to fully come online.A V.Human could have all the feats he needs by lv8 then spend the rest of his career pumping Str/Cha. A plain old Two-handed GWM guy with a Greatsword just maxes out his damage earlier then gets utility feats.

I think they are about balanced out but if your rolling stats you could get going an ASI earlier or so

>>51107305
When?

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>>51105863
Nat 20s and/or Nat 1s mean nothing on ability checks.

This upset /5eg/.

>>51106642
>Be orc barbarian.
>Particularly dim, even for an orc, you are 6 int.
>Wizard man casts spell, you turn into big monkey.
>Feel.. Smarter? Things make more sense now!

>>51107492
Depends on the DM.

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>>51107522
Nope.

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>roll for stats
>get a 3

Alright where do I put this for maximum hilarity. Intelligence?

What level NPC built as a PC is appropriate to throw at a party of 6 level 8 adventurers? I want a BBEG of a thing I'm doing to be an Oathbreaker Paladin and I can't find guidelines for this. Also, how can I make him scary? (he's already going to be supported by undead).

>>51107540
Yes...that's the point of having a DM.

>>51107548
You'll never use charisma for anything useful unless you're a charisma caster, so you can just put it there.

>>51107551
I'd use a same level PC to get the general gist of what types of things he can do, but otherwise tool it up like a fight. In general with these kind of key fights I always go above what I can expect players to handle. I find its easier to pull a punch than to pull something out of my ass if they look set to flatten someone in a round because of a bunch of 20s or an unexpected plan.

>in combat that our dm threw at us
>spend one turn casting minor illusion to create a roaring sound in the woods
>next turn cast silent image of a small dragon and make it reveal itself
>enemies fail investigation check and become scared of it
>two turns later one enemy passes investigation check
>suddenly every enemy knows it's an illusion

Am I right to be salty over this?

>>51107553
Nope. If you roll a nat 20 on a skill check and the GM starts going off on how you now read minds and see through walls its your responsibility as a player to remind him that the PHB explicitly states that is not a rule

>>51107592
Rule Zero

>>51107581
Depends on the enemies I guess. Though I'm not really sure why they'd stick around to keep investigating unless they were watching it walk through trees as they bolted in the other direction or something.

>>51107581
I'd have had some run away and the others stay because they listened to the guy who passed the check. Your gm was a little cheap about that

>>51107551
Maybe go full anime and give him two or more "health bars." Have him gain new powers when one of them drops to zero.

video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h0GRhIKgD8

>>51107579

A single level 8 NPC against 6 level 8s is going to get destroyed instantly though. His HP alone will be like, CR 4 monster level low.

>>51107592
Or maybe a DM fudges what would normally be an impossible task based on your abilities/skills and you miraculously manage to pick the lock despite you not quite meeting the skills.

How about not giving only retarded situations.

>>51107581

This right here is why so many people hesitate to play Illusionists. I cant count the number of times ive seen really cool illusionary shenanigans brought down because a DM let a PC say "I roll to disbelieve" as back as 1st edition

>>51107617
This is why I said to use the example of an equal level PC to figure out what types of things he would have access to, but to "otherwise tool it up like a fight". Maybe encounter would be the better word.

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>>51107548
>>51107566
Alright alright.

Orc Barbarian with literally 1 intelligence.

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>>51107581

>Be NPC
>Hear a roaring noise
>Look over
>See a dragon standing there.
>Everybody freaks the fuck out
>Eventually I realize this thing is just passing through rocks and trees and sticks like a ghost.
>It also isn't making any noise as it walks.
>Realize I live in a world full of wizards and shit, and we were fighting one.
>Realize it's an illusion.
>Tell my buddies "It's a wizard trick"

Nah. Next time try using something other than a cantrip and a first level spell to totally end a group fight.

>>51107292
>His videos are quite good, but that Ghostbusters video earned an unsubscribe.

Funny. I couldn't get through even half of that video he thought it was the best movie of 2016

>>51107592
What the DM says, goes, nigger.

>>51104033
>accepting anything 4e as worthwhile
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51107692
If you have any experience with 4e, you can see a bunch of holdover stuff in 5.

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>>51107724


>Group has a couple old school players
>They hated 4e because "IT ISN'T D&D IT'S WOW"
>Got them into playing 5e
>They love it
>MFW unique powers are all contained within classes like 4e
>MFW Hit dice heal like 4e's second wind
>MFW classes have roles like 4e that cause them to fill a niche rather than being generalists.
>MFW cantrips are made strong to act as "at-will" powers.
>MFW it's literally a remake of stat blocks and cards they type it in paragraphs to appease the grognards
>MFW ALL MY FUCKING CASTERS WHO SAID THEY HATED 4E FOR BEING LIKE A CARD GAME BUY FUCKING SPELL CARDS TO USE FOR REFERENCE ANYWAYS.
>MFW THEY STILL SAY 4E IS TOO VIDEOGAMEY AND LIKE WOW.

Can you guys help me balance a cursed armor?

It's an armor that raises your strenth by 1 after you use a melee attack (only once per turn, max strength remains 20). It resets after you don't make a melee attack for 1 minute.

The cursed effect would be that it eats hp at the end of your turn if you make a melee attack. What amount of hp would be suitable for lvl 5 characters? It needs to be high enough for them to want to get rid of the armor, but not so high that they can't get through one encounter. I'm thinking 4 hp?

>>51107772

*remake of 4e but instead of stat blocks and cards they have paragraphs.

>>51107488
OotA

>>51107772
But they took powers away from all the martials, so it's back to REAL roleplaying again

>>51107780

Have it remove 1 hit dice. Not lower their HP, but lower their hit dice. Remind them that you only regain HALF your max HD on a long rest. If they use it with 0 HD, they start taking exhaustion levels.

>>51107772
You can't win against these people. Just give up.

>>51107783
OotA sucked though.

>>51107797

>Took powers away from martials
>Primal Barbarian Totems
>Battlemaster Fighter is literally 4e's Warlord
>All of rogue. Just all of it. Powers for days
>Paladins and Rangers now can cast at level 2, and get a ton of class related powers

I know you were being sarcastic. It's pretty fucking stupid how easily WoTC bamboozled the "4E SUCKS" crowd. I'm an old school (since AD&D) player who liked 4e for what it was, and likes 5e. 5e is more 4e than it is 3.5e.

>>51107772
Nobody likes your shit game. Get over it.

>>51107772
>MFW unique powers are all contained within classes like 4e
I wish. Shared spell lists are cancer.
>MFW Hit dice heal like 4e's second wind
I wish. Instead it's an extra heal on top of other heals.
>MFW classes have roles like 4e that cause them to fill a niche rather than being generalists.
The roles are a LOT softer, and the striker characters are boring as shit.

Still... yeah. Basically, once they got the meme it doesn't matter.

>>51107833
>Battlemaster Fighter is literally 4e's Warlord
a lot of people would disagree with you and bitch how we need Warlord class for 5e

>>51107651
That's as much Int as a plant, not even an animal

>>51107833
>Battlemaster Fighter is literally 4e's Warlord
Actually, it's more like a 4e Slayer with like 1 warlord-ish power.

>>51107853
Well, to be fair, Battlemaster Fighter is more of a mix of Warlord and regular Fighter.

>>51107804
Isn't that a little too harsh? They've already used a couple hit dice at this point, The person wearing it would either have to resort to using other forms of attack, or die real quick. I agree that it makes more sense from a thematic standpoint, building strength and then becoming exhausted, but still.

Also, can you remove a cursed armor, once attuned?

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>>51107833
>>Battlemaster Fighter is literally 4e's Warlord

>>51107859
More like a Fighter with a Warlord hairdo

>>51107860

If it was per damage dealing turn yes. I mean per encounter. Have it take the HD away per encounter. Cursed armor can be removed with "Remove curse" which is a level 3 spell.

>>51107855
It's nothing like Slayer. Just because of the "power strike" stuff, doesn't make it Battlemaster. Half the manuevers list are literally 4e Fighter/Warlord powers.

I think they kinda tried to revisit Slayer in an Unearthed Arcana but it was pretty tepid.

>>51107864
>>51107855
>>51107853

I should have said it's literally 4e's Warlord but significantly watered down and unable to heal. It still has a lot of the positioning powers and team helping powers.

>>51107860
Have it "drink blood" (take away 1 HD) the first time between short rests a melee attack is used. At the same moment Str is increased.

Is it supposed to be increased only once or every time?

>>51107772
It would seem that the elements that were removed or softened were the elements that your friends didn't like. Why should it surprise you they like the rest?

Only on tg is something all shit. In the rest of the world there tends to be things people like about a system and things they don't. Liking a system tends to depend on how that adds up, with a few red line fail points here and there.

>>51107891
>I should have said it's literally 4e's Warlord but significantly watered down and unable to heal.
In 4e we called those fighters. Or rogues now that I think about it.

>>51107902

I'm saying all that was removed was the "Card game" formatting of the books. Mechanically it's still very much the same. The reasons they gave for hating 4e weren't changed in 5e.

>>51107882
>>51107894
Once per turn. We have to melee characters with str 16, so they can get it to 20 in 4 turns in a single combat encounter.

Losing a hit die per encounter seems more fair. I might even make it 2 hit dice, because we have a lot of days with no or a few combats, and I don't want it to be a beneficial item.

> people pretend Purple Dragon Knight doesn't exist
Is it that bad?

>>51107922
I still think there were some pretty big key departures, like how 4e was clearly designed to be played on a tactical map. 4e was also heavily in need of being pruned back, like 3e was. They started that in 4eE.

But you can definitely see the design choices in 5e being heavily influenced by what they learned in 4e.

In the end I'm glad we've got 5e. I think it did a pretty good job of taking the good parts from 4e and PF style design. Dragged back in the "REAL DnD" crowd but it's still got that good 4e shit in there.

>>51107986
If it had maneuvers as well I might dare to call it a poor man's warlord. As it is it's an embarrassment.

>>51107985
What's the point of increasing it in bits? Just subtract HD, give Str, that's it. It's not like +1 Str is actually in any way useful unless your Strength score is odd.

You could make it a worse version of the Belt of Giant Strength: temporarily increase Strength up to a certain point (say 18) in exchange for HD

>>51107886
>It's nothing like Slayer. Just because of the "power strike" stuff, doesn't make it Battlemaster.

Yes.

Yes it fucking does. The options for powerstrike are basically on par with the martial dice it gets. They are even used in similar ways. They also share the role of the "striker".

There's like 2 shitty throwaway abilities that can be considered warlord-esque.

>>51108026
Except Battlemaster isn't. All the Slayer can do is Power Strike. I think it also gets a weapon specific boost when power striking later.

The Slayer was clearly, at first, re-imagined into the Champion. Whereas the Battlemaster is more akin to what 4e later called the "Weaponmaster" Fighter. Or the basic Fighter. Almost all the Battlemaster Manuevers are pulled from the Weaponmaster power list with one or two from Warlord.

>>51108026
Battlemaster is a clear evolution (well, more of a descendant) of the playtest Fighter from Next, which in turn was a way to make a flexible 4E-like Fighter with options but without powers.

>>51108017
The +1 str stacks up to 20. If they'll only lose 1 hd per combat encounter, the item might be very useful in days when there's only 1 or 2 combat encounters, because the single hit die lost can be regained before there's any danger of exhaustion.

>>51108105
Why don't you keep it staggered but make it 1HD per each 2 Strength gained then?

>>51108062
>I think it also gets a weapon specific boost when power striking later.

Slayer gets the option to augment power strikes with feats. He can even trade it in for a different power. It's basically about the same level of stuff BM gets.

>>51108077
And the Next fighter was an evolution (in this case, an actual evolution that improved upon the original) of the Slayer.

>>51108145
>And the Next fighter was an evolution (in this case, an actual evolution that improved upon the original) of the Slayer.
Kinda agree with the caveat that it was trying to bring the castrated boredom that is Slayer closer to Weaponmaster

>>51108062
A slayer can move their speed as a free action after hitting with an MBA if they are in the mobile blade stance, an at-will option
They can gain +10 to initiative, resist forced movement, gain bonuses to skill rolls, shield an ally or grant them CA, shrug off effects, or any number of utilities available to all fighters.
And they of course can gain a bunch of numerical bonuses to damage and attack rolls,charge speed, etc through their other at-will stances.
And that's not touching the feats, which add bonus effects to power strike like immobilizing, tripping, targeting alternate defenses, dazing, extra attacks etc depending on you favored weapon. And then there's the other 1000+ 4e feats that add effects too numerous to mention.

A slayer, for all the complaints it was a neutered, boring fighter designed for simpletons, could still do more than a battlemaster. Comparing them to champion is not even possible.

>>51107772
>5e is much more successful than 4e
>It must be because of the things it has in common with 4e rather than the things that are different

Is this guy serious?

>>51108222
More like it's because of the echo chamber of Not Muh Dee And Dee

>>51108145
It can use a Feat to gain access to the Weaponmaster list, yes. But it has to swap out a Power Strike. Even then that was just to let Fighters mix around between the Essentials and non-Essentials. A Weaponmaster could also use a feat to swap out a power for a Power Strike. Battlemaster has none of this, it gets access to a 4e style power list. If you played it Essentials only, no Slayer is going to be doing a Commander Strike. No Slayer is going to be using Trip Attack or Cleave. Even with the mixing, you still need to spend a feat, just like anyone else could to pick up a multiclass or Power Swap. On top of this, from memory, Slayers generally made use of Fighting Stances rather than powers, something you don't really see a descendant of in the Battlemaster (unless I'm mis-remembering and that was only the Knight)

The Battlemaster was clearly informed by Weaponmaster design. They almost even share the same name.

>>51108222
You fail reading comprehension forever.

>>51108122
I'll think about it. I really like the hd loss idea, but I think I might still go with the 4 hp loss, for gameplay reasons. It'll fit better with how I want the item to affect the characters. Thanks for the input, though.

Mostly unrelated, but equally important, does anyone know of any creature in dnd or real life that could survive for 6 months without eating or drinking? Preferably visible to the naked eye.

>>51108243
>No Slayer is going to be using Trip Attack or Cleave.

It will instead use an augmented power strike that trips or does damage to a secondary target (or a stance that does that, now that you mention it).

Just because the different uses of power attack didn't have their own names doesn't make the Slayer pool and the BM pool different.

>>51102940
>>51102965
Something something wuxia something. It's basically the 'other' idea I had, and I'm trying to come up with a backup to the main idea (Yay sword and board fighter) I had in case there were already going to be one or two other fighters in the group.

I was thinking of refluffing Kensai as wuxia, as I can take those compromises, but at the same time, as the DM is...holding back a little on what the setting is like, I'm trying to remember sometimes it's good to stick with classics, like the LE S&S fighter made of practical throat cutting.

>>51107986
It has neat abilities but it's missing a core mechanic to be a useful archetype.

>>51108258
I think dormice sleep for like half a year which precludes eating and drinking