Age of Sigmar General ! /aos/

Shaven are shit

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>>51078609
This thread belongs to the Sons of Hashut!

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felling generous... which one do you want ?

Ironjawz, Khorne or Sylvaneth SC box?

Also, why does not one play/no battle reports/no talk of Slaves to Darkness, Flesh-eaters, Malignant or Greenskinz?

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>>51078836
khorne is garbage tier except if you play deamons.
Ironjaws are cool.
Sylvaneth iswhat literraly half the playerbase plays.

>Also, why does not one play/no battle reports/no talk of Slaves to Darkness, Flesh-eaters, Malignant or Greenskinz?

Heh you didn't look hard enough.
no one bother with battlereport anymore for the last couple years and its only video

FEC are literally one of the most played,
Slaves to darkness are also played (as per the 10+ people dropping lists in the last 10 generals,
Malignant aren't even an army and greenskins have the worst model and worst rules of all destruction

>>51078836
I can't answer the 2nd question but for the first it depends on the play style you want since they all play a bit different.

>>51078835
Maybe something new?
>>51078836
I wanted to play with Jawz from the beginning so do it for me

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yo /aos/ !
i'm going to partake in a tournament, at 1000pts, i wonder what you guys though of my list :
1 slaughterpriest-100pts
1 exalted with impaling spear-80pts
20 marauders with shield/axe-120pts
20 bloodreavers with hevay weapons-120pts
4x 5 marauders riders with javelins-400pts
5 wrathmongers-180pts

pick related because they are not!greek in spehss fantasy

do i have any chances ?

Jesus Fuck, the facebook AoS ground are filled with so many fucking stupid morons, how does anyone stand them?

>>51079122
Examples?

>>51079080
>do i have any chances ?
Depends on how serious this tourney is. If somebody goes full powerlist, you are screwed beyond compare, but in a more easygoing environment you might pull off something. Maybe.

>>51079122
By not visiting the facebook AoS morons, mostly.

>>51079325
how so ? i can get that powergamer will table me, but what are the weakness of this list ?

>>51079080
>Do i have any chances?
No, probably not. Maybe by some miracle maneuvering or if your opponents also all have footsloggy melee blobs, but I doubt it.
Which relics and traits do you plan on using?

>>51079370
- shitty Command Ability
- shit mobility, horsemen aside
- only two serious buffs
- horsemen are kinda meh as far as harassers go and suck at combat
- marauders with shields still won't shieldwall much of anything
- no range 2"+ weapons on any horde
- no unbinds
- semi-fighty hero in a faction all about buffing
- wrathmongers tend to benefit your opponent more than they benefit you
Really, I could go on.

Bad game.

>>51079420
40% of the army as move 12" faggot

>>51079370
I just think that you nedd a third hardhitting unit.... dont know how it is possible tho given the low point.

Tell us how it went tho, when is the tournament?

>>51079495
>look how shitty is your list, I wont post an improved list tho.

>shit mobility, horsemen aside
Slow army except half the army ? lol

>>51079533
40% if the army are shitty marauders on horses. Big whoop, they can move around but they can't fight their way out of a wet paperbag and die to a stiff breeze.

Show me your skellies.

>>51079595
I don't know what he owns, how the hell should I put a better list together for him. He either takes the advice he's been given and works it out from there or he doesn't.

>>51079595
>anon, that list is kinda bad
>okay, what is bad about it?
>this, this and this
>oh, but...but you didn't post a better list, so it doesn't count
And mounted marauders are garbage, so don't bring up that shit.

>>51078835
The last pitched battle if possible please

>>51078835
>>51079807

Ditto. Narrative game would be fun too.

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City of Secrets when?

>>51080224
Not now, maybe later, or maybe now, perhaps yesterday, who knows, but maybe you already own it? Only the god of change knows

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Tell me about your the next tournament and army you want to run

Fyreslayers Start Collecting when

>>51080936
2k points next Friday, completely copying the last AoS stream deamon list

>>51080936
>Tell me about your the next tournament
>your the next tournament
wat

>>51080951
When g dub figures out they should've been 2 wounds each..

>>51081605
It is a typo, anon. It is a common occurrence on the internet. Is this your first encounter with one?

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>>51081605

I have beastmen/Brayherd whatever - is there a battle tome I need or just the free stuff on GW?

Not played since we got the points lists, relics, ect.

How are Skaven holding up under this new stuff?
Interested in getting back into stuff, so any advice on pestilens or jsut general Sakven stuff would be appreciated.

I also saw that my Glottkin is basically unplayable due to points cost too, so I guess he's just for casual games now.

>>51081637

My plagueclaw catapult dislikes this post.

>>51081938
all is free.

>>51082158
they are as good as before, go 1d4 vhan for more info

What is the WORST CHEESE you could throw at your opponent with this guy ?

I guess its Skarbrand/Scaarac ?

for those of you who dont know he can cast a spell that give a 18" fly move to a whole unit.

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>>51082397
forgot the pic... just as planned

>>51082409

Flying, speedy Glottkin seems strong.

would you guys object if I use my ancient as treelord or durthu as treelord at a game?

>>51083131
Personally, I wouldn't, but you'd need to say so first.

>>51083131
its okay, just tell us before

>>51083131
Most people I know who play would be totally fine with that. I think most in this thread are fine with it as long as you ask before the game.

do you still get square bases when u buy from gw?

Just finished Gates of Azyr.

It was fucking awesome.

I don't understand people who don't like the new lore.

How popular are Stormcasts? I never have seen a list posted here.

>>51083544
Extremely popular but not overpowered.

Lots of resilience, units designed for specific purposes, low mobility and damage on most models.

>>51082397
Kroak + Vortex is the ultimate cheese

But for Sayl? 6+ stormfiends equipped with warpfire projectors

Thinking of starting a slyaneth army. What are the units like? The local GW staff and players just keep saying that AoS is unreal and that slyvaneth are good but i want to know why play them over army like skaven and flesh courts

>>51083131
Ask before the game and 99% of people will say that its fine

Dont expect to bring it to a tournament though

>>51083648

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.1/Sylvaneth

>>51083503
I do. Basically anything that isn't brand-new AoS (Stormcast, Fyreslayers, etc) I'm just stuck with the square bases in the box.

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>>51083648

>>51083788
damn. what size are the sisters of thorn ROUND bases I should get?

What do you say/do with the people who are just determined to hate AoS no matter what? Even when it's clear they have no fucking idea what they are talking about.

about to order from GW anons. literally about to click it in. what do u think about this army?

Leaders
Treelord Ancient (300)
Branchwych (100)
Branchwych (100)
Spirit of Durthu (400)

Units
Dryads x 30 (360)
- Battleline
Tree-Revenants x 5 (100)
- Sylvaneth Battleline
Kurnoth Hunters x 3 (180)
- Scythes
Sisters of the Thorn x 5 (220)
Tree-Revenants x 5 (100)
- Sylvaneth Battleline

Battalions
Gnarlroot Wargrove (80)
Household (20)

Total: 1960/2000

I'll get 2 SC boxes and the rest seperately.

(I'll probably remove one branchwych and add something else in the future currently no more money)

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Hello /aos/ I hope all is well. I have just gotten back into miniatures gaming after a few years, and there is a GW store conveniently near me. They are starting an Age of Sigmar league tomorrow, and I plan on joining in. I've been playing WHFB since 3rd Edition, and have a massive amount of Chaos miniatures. While I don't want to mess with most of it (and honestly Tamurkhan the Maggot Lord is a pain to transport), I do have a whole bunch of Khorne Daemons that I can re-base and re-paint for the league. I picked up the General's Handbook today and have been looking over it and I'm more than a bit confused.

Unit sizes are fluid, but point costs are not? Are there no more magic items? I really want to give this game an honest try, but I don't really know what to do. The league starts at 500 points, and here's what I have to work with (for now):

30 Bloodletters and two sets of full command
6 Flesh Hounds and Kharnak
Skulltaker

I know that's not anything exciting, but again, I'm only working with a limited palate as of right now. I think that's more than 500 points, but is there some sort of army guide? Is it considered 'bad taste' to bring those characters at a low point game? How do I make use of things like Chosen and Marauders? It looks like there are almost a dozen different armies across four factions, is that correct?

Sorry for asking so much, but I would greatly appreciate any feedback you would give.

>>51084299
There are 4 "Grand Alliances". However, each model has a keyword, which interacts differently/ affects army composition.

For instance, if your whole army is Khorne Daemons; Flesh Hounds can be taken as battleline.

As for points; you pay in increments. Example, Bloodletters are 100 for 10; and 100 more for the 10.

So, 10 BL's cost 100, 12 BL's cost 200, 20 BL's cost 200.

If you want to dick around with points, use scrollbuilder.com

>>51084181
Use 60x35mm Oval bases to replace 50x25mm cavalry bases. That's what my Made to Order Seekers of Slaanesh came on and what Saurus Knights are mounted on for example.

>>51084292
>- Scythes
Change these to bows. Unless you're super keen on Scythes.

>>51084292
i think you should order on another website for -30% discount

list is decent

>>51084447
which other site sends to "rest of the world" ?

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>>51084395
Okay, thanks. I think I get it? I'll play around with scrollbuilder.

>>51084459
I'm from Australia. i order from Wayland to a PO box in uk.
i save maybe 50-60% VS buying in dolaridoos from GW but if you need the models fast just buy on GW, i didnt know you were "RestOfTheWorld"

>>51084299
>Unit sizes are fluid, but point costs are not?
If you're trying to be efficient you always take units in multiples of the minimum size. The points cost is for each set of that minimum amount of guys. So a unit could cost 100 points for 10, 200 points for 20, 300 of 30 etc. However, it's not granular down to the individual model. 12 dudes in the above example would still cost you 200 points, not 120.

>Are there no more magic items?
There are, but they're on of the things in each force's book and not freely available. The General's Handbook has some generic ones for each Grand Alliance. They're called Artefacts.

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>>51084503
>12 dudes in the above example would still cost you 200 points, not 120.
Ah, I get it now.

According to warscroll, I can take a Soul Grinder, but I didn't see that as an option in the Handbook, I must have missed it. How important are monsters and the like? I love them, but they were often reduced to a hot pile of garbage in WHFB.

>>51081671
/thread

>>51084694
>I can take a Soul Grinder, but I didn't see that as an option in the Handbook
page 131

>>51084502
this site seems nice anon thanks. I like the prices.

>>51084445
3 bows wont do much, the scythes give you a 2nd heavy hitting unit besides Durthu

1 big offensive is really easy to counter. 2 big threats is tougher to counter.

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>>51084860
Unironically telling people to get scythe instead of Swords

>>51084694
>I must have missed it. How important are monsters and the like? I love them, but they were often reduced to a hot pile of garbage in WHFB.

oh boy... its basically "age of Monsters" as it should be now... Wait until you field your first bloodthirster..

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>>51084811
So there are three daemon armies and a list of undivided stuff you can add on? That's what it looks like to me.

Oh, and dare I ask what happened to Slannesh? I don't see much of him/her in this so far, which is a damn shame as I love my Diazmonettes.

>>51084910
Because Scythes are better

Get over it shardfag

>>51084937
> M-Maths are wrong !!

>>51084943
Christ you are fucking dense mate

Your math assumes one scenario. There are many other scenarios that can play out. Scythes are better.

You are truly an insufferable faggot

>>51084931
Tzeentch killed slaanesh, will probably come back in 5 years when the fluff is much more developed

>>51079007
I gotcha dawg.

>>51084975
>Tzeentch killed slaneesh
Tzeentch conspired to have the elf gods kidnap slaneesh so they could steal back elf souls

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>>51084931
Slaanesh died "Just As Planned"

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>>51084920
>its basically "age of Monsters" as it should be now...
You say that like it's a good thing. Is it a bad thing? I have lots of monsters, I want to use them.

>>51079781
As soon as they ended the post with lol I knew they were shit

>>51084996
Well monster should be strong ingame as they are expensive in points and strong in the fluff. And now, they finally are strong.

>>51081671
I want to punch that child.

>>51084292
Surely having Sister of the Thron in you force removes having a pure SYLVANETH allegiance because they don't share that keyword?

Which means your Tree-Revenants can't be battleline.

Or is that not how that works?

>>51084988
So Slannesh is 'absent' and the Horned Rat is a Chaos God now? I'm not worshiping any damn rat.

>>51085013
Sounds good to me. I'll have to blow the dust off my Soul Grinders and Manticores.

>>51085026
Normally, yes, you are correct

However the Gnarlroot Wargrove lets you bring any ORDER WIZARD and since its a Sylvaneth Battalion it counts as a Sylvaneth unit for allegiance reasons

>>51084299
Thanks for the blog post Dave.
Also name faging is cancer
Get fucked. Welcome to /tg/

A friend at my local GW wants to do a mini Path to Glory campaign but with our current armies.

Any ideas on converting/creating a Path to Glory for some Dispossessed? I have no idea what I'm really doing.

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>>51085030
Slaanesh will be back anon. Nurgle got his new models during the End Times/Same year as AoS launch, then Khorne for AoS Launch itself, now Tzeentch is getting stuff, and then finally it'll be Slaanesh.

>>51085048
Oh i didn't realise that they had the WIZARD keyword. Cheers for correcting me, I'm glad i understand the allegiance rule

>>51085057
>Namefag are cancer because i wont be able to samefagshitpost with ID.

>>51085071
It'll line up with the Slaanesh plotline of 40k. They will share a line

>>51084931
>So there are three daemon armies and a list of undivided stuff you can add on? That's what it looks like to me.

Sort of. There are layers to the Allegiance rules. If all your dudes have the "Khorne" keyword or are part of a "Khorne" battaltion then you can claim the Khorne allegiance. A really focused army allegiance like this usually comes with a few benefits, like Bloodcrushers and Flesh Hounds becoming battleline troops in the Khorne case. You can add neutral Chaos stuff or a different type of Chaos like Skaven, but now your army no longer is all Khorne and so you cannot take the Khorne Allegiance. Instead since you're all Chaos (Since Khorne guys also have the Chaos keyword), you'll probably take the Chaos Allegiance, which has some rules, artefacts, and benefits listed in the GHB. Essentially you want to balance the advantages you get from going for a narrow allegiance with the variety you get from going with a wide generic allegiance.

The Soul Grinder is a special case because he has a rule that lets him gain the keyword of whichever Chaos God you like. So you could include him with your Khorne deamons and still be all Khorne.

>>51085057
Never saw a namefag shitpost... unlike you.
why dont you go back shilling in your WHFB thread ?

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>>51085057
You are a very rude person, quite uncharacteristic of /tg/.

>>51085071
I would love to see some new Slaanesh models, the other new stuff looks pretty good. I'd be interested to see a Keeper of Secrets redesign (within reason).

>>51085130
Now that is very helpful. Thank you. I feel dumb not being able to figure this stuff out, I guess I'm just not reading carefully enough.

>>51085250
stop posting so much khorne art/models.
I can only get so erect..

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>>51085250
are you happy for the Khorne Dragon ?

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>>51085281
Khorne care not to what the blood flows!

>>51085288
I certainly am now.

Hello, total fucking idiot new 40k player here. I have a tiny store near me that u like that does AOS and 40k stuff back and forth. How well do the Sepharon play? I first thought skaven were cool, but I don't like their models.

>>51085425
see here >>51083840

>>51085134
See curzefag in hhg.
Carnac
Shas'o
How new are you?

>>51085495
non of those is AoS related.

>>51084502
I just ordered the units I lack from the list (1 more SC, 2 revenants & 1 sisters) and it amounted to 23 GBP less. They even send it to my shithole country. Thanks kangaroo anon. Anzacs were our best enemies. :*

>>51085452
Great image guide, thank you for that.

Would an Archmage and the Reavers from Spire of Dawn be a good addition with my Stormcasts?

>>51083840

Interesting that they gave Tomb Kings good rules but then axed the whole range anyways.

>>51085835
If they gave Tomb Kings good rules in the first place, they wouldn't have had to axe them.

That's the one thing GW doesn't seem to understand. If you make things good, people will want to buy them and play with them.

>>51085688
>They even send it to my shithole country.
Where are you from ?

>>51085870
>>51085835

It's an """"""""Elaborate"""""""" Scheme to make the next "Made to order" Tomb king from "meh" to millions dollar profit

>>51085706
Archmage isn't bad. There are better wizards like a Celestial Hurricanum or a Loremaster.

Reavers? Not really. They need buffs from other Swifthawk Agents units to be good - 3 shots each at 4+/4+ is pretty weak.

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>>51085879

>>51085688
>Anzacs were our best enemies

... are you Turkish?

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>>51085989
Sorry anon

>>51085989
>>51086011
Well, guess F5 would've answered that then. Sorry for wasting bumps.

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>>51086012
it's o o okay

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I made a spell lore that can be used for armies that don't have access to their own custom spell lore.

Each wizard in your army can learn 1 spell from this list. Pick or roll.

I wanted to make sure that none of these spells are as good as custom spells that other wizards get.

What do you guys think?

>>51086168
Woops, Haste and Lethargy should only last until the next hero phase

So I picked up a box of blightkings because I really liked the look of the models and it turns out I love painting fucked up fat guys and want to play Nurgle, where should I go from here?

>>51079533
february the 12, but we will have matches before that

i selected mostly what sounded good, and i thought horsemen were enough to compensate for the lack of mobility.
should i split the blobs ?

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>>51086895
As in you only have the BKs? Get the SC Nurgle box
Hope you're all having a productive weekend anons

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>>51081938
>I have beastmen/Brayherd

My man!

>>51087060
Not that Anon, but after seeing Duncan's latest video on toxic bases, I am determined to buy the Nurgle SC box when I have finished painting what I have left in AoS.

>https://youtu.be/na26t36C7X4

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>>51078727
Just what are the Dawi Zharr doing in Age of Sigmar anyways?

They just left to rot in the background, or has Forge World gave them any fluff, besides the new model.

>>51087095
Yeah it looks great

>>51087082
Jesus christ. Fix up your bases m8

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>>51087158
Those were some of the first minis I got for warhammer a few years back. I have improved a lot since then, pic related.

>>51087222
You have improved a great deal yes, but it doesn't take much to run a quick coat of pain over the rim of the base to get rid of the messy splotches.

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Was thinking on getting a starter set for Daemons of Nurgle, to use in both 40k and AoS. But they really dont look like much judging from the rules. How do they play?

>>51087504
https://1d4chan DOT org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.1/Daemons_of_Nurgle

Thoughts? Just in case my FLGS decides to pull a cheap(ish) tourney
>Leader
Lord of Plagues - 100

>Battleline
10x Plaguebearers - 100
10x Plaguebearers - 100

>Behemoth
GUO - 240
Soul Grinder (Blade) - 280

>Other
5x Blightkings - 180
1000/1000

>>51081605
Phoneposting - is it your first day on 4chan or what?

>>51080936
2000 pt national tournament. All 6 scenarios over 2 days. It'll be the 5th time I play AoS.

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>>51080936
Players asked me (shop owner) to organize a tournament or something similar.
So, I'm thinking how to do it.
Not sure about the format.

I'm for Narrative Games, I was never a fan of straight up competitive tournaments.

I was thinking a slow growth campaign.
You start with a Warlord and a few other units (depends on how strong is your warlord), and you play a few story-driven games every month.

And at the end of each month you can add a unit (or make one of yours bigger).

Maybe using the rules for veterans from All Gates, for some extra spice.

Opinions/Suggestions?

>>51087948
Use the Path to Glory format? Make up tables for the armies that don't have obe yet? That's good for a slow grow type.

>>51087948
>Suggestions?
Make a fucking map and a fucking plot

Any places to buy Shattered Dominion bases by the sprue? I need a bunch of 32mm ones and I don't want to buy a bunch of 25mm ones to clutter up the place.

>>51083840
>No Bretonnia

>>51088122
Brets are solid, especially all three heroes are wonderful. Unit-wise, take Trebuchet, Archers, Knights of the Realm and Pegasus Knights, ignore everything else.

>>51078835
Where did you go anon?

>>51084228
If they won't listen? Ignore them. Arguing with people set on hating something is just going to make them hate it more. More importantly, it will be a waste of time and get you annoyed as well.

>>51084228
I generally ignore people who hate something because it's different. I enjoyed Fantasy for many years but i actually enjoy AoS more and anyone who goes out of their way to spread hate and aggression to those around them for the sake of "hur 4 page rulebook is shit" is not someone i pay attention to.

>>51088238
I find that Men at Arms are a pretty good anvil, especially with their extra saves.

>>51088238
>>51088629
>Bring 30 Men at arms as a unit
>Stick a Paladin (who you should be bringing anyway) next to them
>2+/4+, free spell unbinding, 6 Bravery, 5+ Save, 2" range.

Not bad at all.

>>51088658
>>51088629
I guess they are nice enough, but I prefer to play all-out aggressive with piles of knights, so anvil units are of little overall interest to me.

>>51084292
If I were you, I would cut the unit of Dryads down to 20 (they will last a long time with Sisters of the Thorn and Mystic Shield anyway), and get 3 more Kurnoth Hunters.

>>51088060
bitz sellers on ebay

>>51084937
>>51084964

Scythes are only reliably better than Swords when:
1) The Enemy has a decent Armour Save across most his army
2) You are using larger inits, so you need the extra range to get everyone into combat.

Outside of those circumstances, Swords are more reliable.

>>51087121
Well I'm pretty sure they founded the religion for the Fyreslayers, so there's that.

>>51088900
And if you plan on using that rerollable save.
And if the opponent has a support hero nestled in the engaged unit.
And if the enemy uses a screening unit to hide spearmen or the like.
And if the enemy ignores -1 Rend.
And...

>>51087504
>How do they play
Last thread
>>51076060
>>51076270
>>51076374
>>51076520
I have already buy stuff for Skaven army but if I could choose a next/new army it would be Nurgle or Stormcast

>>51088899
Can't find any, that's why I'm asking. I could find 25mm bases, but all the 32mm ones are sold individually.

>>51088238
Brett's are super fun, both battalions are great, you'll find they get expensive quick, and units are worth running in higher numbers. Ex. Men at arms are taken in groups of 16, so 32 is what you want to bring per unit for the + to hit. KotR get an extra attack if more than 10, and you take them in groups of 8, so it's usually better to run them in groups of 16.

>>51087948
Warhammer world did a little mordheim format that would work well as heros meeting up with a larger army..

hxxps://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Regiment-of-Renown-pack-2-FINAL.pdf

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Regular Nurgle anon here
Well, tip for any future Plague Drone users - Do not assemble it fully before painting, it's a pain even with an airbrush

Thoughts on my current WIP?

>>51089975
Skin colour's a bit on the healthy side, but I figure you're going to wash that soon?

>>51089975
Is it caliban green?

>>51090096
Yeah, probably going with Sepia - i need the yellow tint, i'll at a 2ns wash in the recesses aferwards with a green

>>51090193
Black prime, then Caliban yeah - will edge with Warpstone

>>51089975

Use wood finish or any other glaze on the carapace for a chitinous look. I don't like the wings very much, but insect wings are nearly impossible to do well

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>>51090379
No

>>51090379
Yeah i'm planning to use that yellow shade to give the wings that sickly look

Will post again when it's done

>>51088946
Elaborate

>>51084821

Can you not have AoS from that site delivered to the US? I'm on phone keeps saying u available.

Fellow Ameribros, what's the best (cheapest) site to order from?

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>>51090348
I was thinking about caliban green on clanrats but it seems to be too dark.

Maybe someone could help me? I'm going to paint skaven part of SoD box. I have thought about
- black prime
- Balthasar gold and Leadbelcher for metal parts
- Zandri dust for all parchment and rope parts
- Caliban green, Moot green and Abaddon black for cloth parts and eyes
- - Waywatcher green and Ceramite white to use with Caliban and Moot green when painting warpfire and warpstone parts
- Ratskin flesh for fleshy parts
- Mournfang brown for fur and wooden parts
- Astrogranite for bases
- Screaming skull for drybrush fur, base, paint claws and teeth
- Agrax Earthshade and Reikland fleshshade

For now I have Leadbelcher, Zandri dust, Ceramite white, Screaming skull, Agrax earthshade and Reikland Fleshshade so 6/15. Should I swap or drop any of the colors from the list? Or maybe it's not enough?

>>51090807

Use a PO box like everyon or simply instead of buying kits 1 by 1, go to a FLGS when you can buy your full army and they will do 20 to 30% off.

If you enter an FLGS with like 500-700 usd, you are basically doing their days target, just ask for 25% and no sane person will say "yeah no i dont want to make $700 in 2 minutes, please GTFO and buy on internet so I get nothing out of you"

But most people don't have the strength to save that much and waste as soon as they get money with crazy excuses and end up with them unpainted/Still new in box evens months after.

>>51090920
All i can say anon is test it out on any spare models, if you have any
That's what i've done with all my current army schemes because what sounds good on paper doesn't always translate well in reality

Also /wip/ would probably be the better place to ask overall for painting

>>51089212
You are correct, I failed to consider those. I feel especially silly considering I failed to consider the -1 Rend when my favourite unit ignored -1 rend.

>Plague Drone turned out kinda meh
Shame my lamp is still not charged otherwise i'd post a pic

>>51080936
1000pts Vanguard with 3 games per player
1. Take and Hold
2. Blood and Glory
3. Escalation
Probably it's going to be a pretty casual tournament - good for me because it will be my first one ever

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>>51092343
There we go.
Personally i didn't think the yellow shade would be that strong desu

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>>51092614
MY FUCKING DICK IS SO HARD RIGHT NOW I COULD SHATTER INTO BRICKS THE TWIN TOWERS AGAIN

>>51092614

>cuming intensifies

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>>51092614

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>>51092537
There is something strange about this green armour part but wings are great. If you are going to buy/paint another set of drones, I recommend you painting them pale violet

>>51092614
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

>>51092614
holy shit my wallet is not going to survive

>>51092705
I didn't even think of using Druchii Violet, damn
What's weird is that my Nuln Oil is somehow glossy, without it being the Glossy version

Everytime i use it it kinda weirds me out desu
I chose the dark green because it reminds of me other those weird shiny green flies we get

>>51092747
Mine is too...

>>51092614

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/07/change-is-coming/

Its a multi-part kit with kairos fateweaver

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>>51092614

>>51092866
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/07/change-is-coming/
your link is shit and you are shit

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>>51092894

Holy shit they deleted the page

I think someone fucked up somewhere fundamentally

Probably doesn't come as a multi-part kit with kairos in that case

>>51092866
>>51092894
>Get your first look at the incredible new Lord of Change miniature (though miniature is maybe not quite be the right word) on its way later this Tzaanuary.
>Wow, right?
>This towering Daemon of Tzeentch stands as tall as a Bloodthirster and sits alongside Magnus, Nagash and the Imperial Knight as one of the most iconic and imposing centerpiece miniatures in the whole Citadel range.
>Every inch of this model is dripping in detail: esoteric runes, staring eyes, magical books, arcane scrolls and more besides – it’s a painter’s dream, especially when combined with the myriad colour schemes that Tzeentch’s greatest daemonic champions lend themselves to.
>The kit can also be used to create Kairos Fateweaver, the notorious and fickle two-headed Daemon of past and future destinies. We’ll have some shots of this build for you very soon.
>You can, of course, use this model in games of Warhammer 40,000 or Warhammer Age of Sigmar. For battles in the Mortal Realms, an updated Warscroll for this arcane behemoth will feature in the upcoming Disciples of Tzeentch Battletome.

Link from the page, for those who didn't get a chance to see it.

>>51093050
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/08/change-is-coming/

They put the wrong date in the URL

>>51093050
Here you go:
>This towering Daemon of Tzeentch stands as tall as a Bloodthirster and sits alongside Magnus, Nagash and the Imperial Knight as one of the most iconic and imposing centerpiece miniatures in the whole Citadel range.
>Every inch of this model is dripping in detail: esoteric runes, staring eyes, magical books, arcane scrolls and more besides – it’s a painter’s dream, especially when combined with the myriad colour schemes that Tzeentch’s greatest daemonic champions lend themselves to.
>The kit can also be used to create Kairos Fateweaver, the notorious and fickle two-headed Daemon of past and future destinies. We’ll have some shots of this build for you very soon.

Thinking Desctruction faction as already had 2500 points of ogre kingdoms and in process of re-basing and updating paint job..

Just how shit are Ogors and would they be improved mixing Ironjaws in (as the rest look like balls anyway)?

>>51093225
ogor a strong man

>>51090715
I can't because I don't remember much. I'm preeetty sure it was in the Fyreslayers battletome.

>>51092614
God Damn every new army makes me want to start that new army.
But I'm not even done making the first one (and I already bought shit for the second)

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>>51092614
it's time?

>>51093225
Beast riders are almost broken (that's all the Ogre Kingdom monsters)
Iron guts are some of the best fighters in the game.
Ironjaws don't really add much to what you already have in abundance. But if you like the models (I play Ironjawz solely for the models) then go crazy dawg

>>51087828
You talking about LVO?

>>51093634
>I play Ironjawz solely for the models
Your list? How many points are you usually playing? Are they gud for da newbiz and wallet?

>>51092614

Here I was about to make Ironjawz my first AoS army but now....I'm gonna wait.

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>>51092614
I was considering building a really buff Lord of Change from the Magnus kit but I guess that's a moot point now.
Thank fuck, too. That new LoC is just gorgeous.

>>51093726
Not him, but I also play Ironjawz and would say that yes, they are very good for newcomers. Straightforward and uncomplicated with a good mix of speed (allegiance trait!), durability and punch. Brutes and 'ard Boys are lovely troops and your heroes can add a whole lot to the army; in particular the Megaboss is the gold-standard for brawler heroes.
Just...just avoid Gore-gruntas.

>>51093810
>Just...just avoid Gore-gruntas
>The best looking ironjawz models imo
The Buddha told us that "Life is Suffering". Now I believe. So buying more than one SC box is not the best idea?

>>51093751
i'll be buying 3 + magnus.
one for each weapon option (i will magnetise anyway but i prefer having on of each in display) one for Kairos and one magnus without armor.

>>51093873
do whatever you want.
not everyone is a waacfag. I regularly field 6 gore gruntas, they are okay, just not OPBroken like people want it to be..

Buy whatever you want to buy and field whatever you want to field.

>>51093890
>one for Kairos
But the new Lord of Change is specifically a dual kit to also make Kairos?

>>51087948
I did a map campaign thing that I'm running for the next eight weeks. If that's something you're interested in, then use this as a reference. If you want a more slow grow campaign, then Path To Glory is the best though you might want to change some of the rules from the General's Handbook, and make charts for factions that don't have one yet.

>>51093936
Here's a link if you want to check it out: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-T9WpY3Q6aWn98V3SuOJUp5SbqZcQ_cIPBDTn5ZtsFo

>>51093931
yes, just like skarbrand, thats why i'll buy 3

>>51093873
I mean, they are not horrible, I guess? If you want them, do field them, but don't expect them to do very much for super-heavy cavalry, especially ever since the Destruction Allegiance fixes our speed issue.
They are just very sub-par in an army of great choices. I have six and I occasionally give them a spin only to re-shelve them right afterwards for more brutes or 'ard boys.

>>51094007
Sorry I misread your post anon. For some reason I thought you were saying you were buying three Magnus kits.

>>51093922
>not everyone is a waacfag
Nah, I'm a casual player. Just don't really know every model so sometimes I'm afraid that GW could make a really useless and ass-sucking model. If gore-gruntas are not this level of being shit, then I'm fine with them.

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if dubs we get Aelves battletome tomorrow

>>51094456
I'm sure you were trying to make a coherent sentence.

I'm also sure you failed spectacularly.

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>>51094456
You fucked up, m8

>>51094630
>>51094618
WE GET THE AELVES BATTLETOME REEEEEEEE

>>51094744
>autistic screeching causes Kek to bless a post with digits

Really makes you think.

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>>51094799
This is the official get thread now

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>>51094911
Oh.

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>>51094744
>>51094799
>>51094911
>those digits

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>>51094744
>>51094799
>>51094911
>triple doubles

>>51093890
I seriously hope you are shilling, because no sane person should be THAT commited to chaos.
It's fucking heresy.

But back on topic, surely the Aelf battletome can't be too far off? (Re-)releasing Spire of Dawn without any sort of update for the Elf factions seems a bit strange to me.

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WOOD AELVES BATTLETOME REEEEE

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>>51094961
>>51094936
DWARF SC! BOX WHEN REEEEE

>>51095009
Maybe they need more space in warehouses?

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>>51095009

>>51095063
Female stormcast?

>>51078609
ITT: Age of Sigmar - Top of the Spectrum Edition

>>51095050
dwarves are gayfag midgets

>>51095089
So they fit me perfectly

>>51095063
shooting into melee? really?

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>>51094744
>>51094799
>>51094911

>>51095273
Lord Kroakek

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>>51095144
Dubs confirm shooting into melee is dodgy.

>Captcha: Calle cochran

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Stormcast/Dark Elves army list advice?
1000 points, will be facing Death with Arkhan the unkillable buff machine, Skaven, and a chaos player who likes skull cannons too much

LEADERS
Sorceress On Cold One (100)
Lord Celestant (100)
- General
- Artefact : Hoarfrost

UNITS
Bloodwrack Medusae x 1 (120)
Dark Riders x 5 (140)
- Shadowblades - Shadowblades Battleline
Liberators x 5 (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- Grandhammers : 1
- Battleline
Paladin Retributors x 5 (220)
- Starsoul Mace : 1
Fulminators x 2 (240)

Went for a fluffy-ish reptile force, with a big fast cavalry block containing a wizard, and a ground slogging force. Medusa to scare off tarpits and let my retributors get into a fight.

>>51095273
bless me Kek

>>51095273
favor me Kek!

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>>51095433
WITNESSED

>>51095359
Not a legal list, I think. Dark Riders are only battleline in a Shadowblade-allegiance army. Unless I am completely mistaken.
A couple of other points:
- Why only one starsoul mace?
- What Command Trait?
Also, is Hoarfrost also for the theme? if so, cool. Otherwise I'd replace it with some actually worthwhile relic.

Do female Kairic Acolythes walk around with their tits out?

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>>51095604
Alright yeah that's me dropping the ball, new to AoS. So I can run any battleline unit, provided it's pure "battleline", not a limited one?

Starsoul mace at one because I forgot to put two. I think they're good at 2 in retributors, but at 1 in Protectors/Decimators?

Command trait we're going to try for rolling randomly before each battle
And yeah, I chose Hoarfrost only for theme reasons, phoenix gem seems better.

Would adding Prosecutors be a smarter idea? Need a way to shut down my friend's Arkhan before he causes summoning trouble all FUCKING GAME

>>51095725
What is and isn't battleline depends on the overall army allegiance. For example, Wolf Riders are battleline for Grots if the army has a Gitmob allegiance (i.e. all units have the Gitmob keyword). If it doesn't, then only Grots are battleline. It says in the GHB where battleline units are restricted by allegiance.

>>51095497
kek is my lord

>>51095774
Cheers, I'll go read the GHB a bit more thoroughly this time

>>51090960
Or goto shops that have 20% discount on gw already..

>>51095646
I hope so

Also, should I change Warlock Engineer for Warlord or leave it as it is? Models from SoD + cannon only so don't really have a broad selection of options

Leaders
Packmaster (60)
- Shock
Warlock Engineer (100)
- General
- Trait: Lord of War
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest

Units
Clanrats x 20 (120)
- Rusty Spear
- Battleline
Clanrats x 20 (120)
- Rusty Spear
- Battleline
Rat Ogors x 4 (240)
Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team x 1 (60)
Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team x 1 (60)
Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team x 1 (60)

War Machines
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)

Total: 1000/1000

>>51095725
Ragarding the Paladins/Starsoul Mace thing: Always take two maces with Retributors, never take any with either Protectors or Decimators. In both cases you give up way too much of their special skills while with Retributors the maces' preferred target line up with what you wanted to engage in the first place.
If you play with points, I doubt summoning will be that big of an issue, especially at 1k with Arkhan already weighting in at 340.
On the other hand, a unit of Prosecutors might harrass Arkhan a little, but they have no shot at actually taking him down barring some godly dice rolls.
Have you considered a Lord-Veritant? Those are lovely at telling enemy casters to go fuck themselves. Or, alternatively, a Knight-Vexillor to shunt your Retributors around.

>>51096061
Warlock is fine. The Warlord is of dubious benefit in that army.

>>51096215
Gotcha on the maces, cheers.
I've just looked up the summon rules and holy shit we've been playing it wrong, this makes my life much easier.

Prosecutors are very fun, but I agree they'd never successfully kill Arkhan.

Whoever pointed out battleline issues you're right, thank you. I'll work out a way to run things. Kinda want to keep the Fulminators because they're hilarious, but they're a big points chunk.

>>51094023

>especially ever since the Destruction Allegiance fixes our speed issue.

Just wondering anon, what changed there? I don't play but i have some models to paint but i still like to keep up-todate on the rules, i must have missed that change.

>>51096477
>>51094023

Oh sorry i think i understand, so they arent quite as good because all the other units are much faster now due to the destruction allegiance buff thing?

Sorry my reading comprehension was abit shit.

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>>51092614
Here's to hoping he also gets a slight rules overhaul alongside Kairos. Bloodthirsters get 4 wounds and assorted shit and I want this new bastard to be better than his puny incarnation as well.
I don't expect any Bloodthirster-tier melee mayhem here, but more wounds and a somewhat more competent melee profile would be nice, especially when casting Infusion Arcanum.
Though I hope Kairos keeps Secrets and Ciphers, which is always hilarious.

>>51096867
The Warhammer Community post confirmed there are new rules for him coming.

>>51096562
>>51096477
Yup. Low speed was the glaring issue for Ironjaws and as such Gore-gruntas had their place by being the speedy first wave, but with the allegiance trait and the Ravager command trait you get mobs of Brutes cruising around at cavalry speed.

>>51096867
Goddammit the Infusion is insane on an Ogroid Thaumaturge.

>>51093480
It's not.
It's literally conspiracy theory level shit.
"The Runemaster model has a moustacheless beard which looks kind of like a Chaos Dwarf's" is not evidence.

Nor is the fact that their priestly order is called the Zharrgrim, because "Zharr" is Khazalid for "Fire", not "Chaos". "Dum" is Khazalid for "Chaos".
Source: bugmansbrewery dot com slash tutorials/article/115-dwarf-language-english-to-khazalid-dictionary/

I have the Fyreslayers battletome, and I can tell you straight and true, without a shadow of a doubt, that there is literally nothing linking the Zharrgrim priests and the Dawi Zharr. Sometimes a name is just a name.

>>51097113
>Mfw Shar'Tor's model has a trampled Fyreslayers helmet on the base

Neat lil detail

>>51097067
The spell affects all phases. Now imagine casting it with a large unit of Horrors.
Buffing themselves to 2+/3+ shots out to 18" without any actual actions of other heroes involved.

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>>51097183
Just kinda shows that Chaos Dwarfs are still a thing in AoS

>>51097268
Holy fuck. The only question is what Spell Lore it's in. If it's in the Mortal, the Arcanite or the Daemon one.

>>51097378
>>51097268
>If successfully cast, until your next hero phase you can add 1 to all hit and wound rolls for the caster
>until your next hero phase
?

>>51097183
How is Shar'tor anyway? His rules seem beefy, but it almost feels like he is in the wrong army to be balls-out aggressive.

>>51097447
Yes? It is a spell that is cast in one hero phase and lasts until the next one. This is neither new nor complicated, anon.

>>51097447
What is that you don't understand?

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Will there ever be new non-aligned beastmen models?

I just want murdergoatmen with cool models

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>>51097732
No. Tzaangors are next and after that we will not hear of any beastmen for another ten years.

>>51097777
>anarchy and mayhem
>more chance of it working if their boss is looking over their shoulder

>>51097777
>7777

Nurgle Beastmen confirmed!

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>>51078609
So, to preface my question, I'll say this: I'm a Undead legion player primarily, and I enjoy giving my army some flare via 3rd party models. I especially like the Wrath of Kings Goritsi line of miniatures. However, after a mixup on ebay, I got a Nasier(pic related) box instead of Goritsi.

My question is, what heck do I run them as?

>>51097816
So just like real anarchy?

>>51093688
Nope. Scandibro here.

>>51097907
When in doubt, elves or freeguild can accomodate just about anything.
That said, wow, that's a lot of monopose garbage.

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>>51097907
no idea what this is but i know who i would play

>>51097816
Without leading figures inspiring others anarchy wouldn't work.
Well, it wouldn't work, period, but you get what I mean.

>>51097907
Because those band-aids covering the nipples are sure to elevate that model range from magical realm to classy.
>CMoN
Oh boy, quality awaits.

>>51098001
They're honestly pretty good models, and in theory, your supossed to run those models in blocks of seven. That way, each the number of repeats is limited, albeit there will be some repeats. Still, they're about the same as, say, Warriors of Chaos in pose. Also, im not exactly sure Freeguild or Aelves are a good fit. They look way too evil.

>>51098047
Thats part of the Goristi range, and I tell you, they make some good undead/Werewolves.

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>>51098219
I didn't choose that box; I tried to order pic related, but they sent me the Nasier box instead. I've already got my refund from Ebay, since the seller wont respond, but now I need to figure out what to do with these things.

>>51098428
>furfag
Get out

Dont come back

>>51097907
>My question is, what heck do I run them as?

Run them straight into the trash where they belong

They would be cringe-worthy as fuck daemonettes, but for UNDEAD? Nothing fits, it's all useless

>>51098428
At a glance those look not as horrible as the ones above. Undead are missing out on the werewolf theme, so I can see some use for these guys.

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>>51097777
Here's hoping that we'll get at least one type of gor for every chaos god.

>>51098533
>furfag
>Get out
>Dont come back
kek, triggered cuck

>>51098219
I kinda like the underwater fighters line, shellfish/octopusmen lookin' good. Plus the one hero's backstory is fun, he's a guy who got transformed to a octopushead, and still only like human women, not octohead ones, and the human women, as you can think, aren't really into dating horny squid heads.

Can you play AoS with square bases? Is there any benefit to using round ones?

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>>51098533
>Triggered
Sorry if It offended you

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>>51098533
this triggers anon

>>51098875
Yes, you can play with square bases. RAW bases don't exist, so do whatever. However, most players measure from base and don't tend to put bases on top of other bases, so there are some minor differences, but nothing too important. basically, do whatever you prefer.
One guy here has a whole stormcast army on square bases, for example.

>>51097907
those hellboy sammurai could be converted into some good undead.
>thicc titymonsters
i don't think you could ever use those in decent company.

>>51097777
When did tzaangors get updated?

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>>51098644
Are we talking about the same GW daemonettes? Because, I can honestly say, those Nasier ones look a hundred times better than the current plastic ones. Even if they look like crap, at least they actually look slightly feminine. Although, now that you mention it, they would make good Daemonettes. Especially compared to the trash new ones.

>>51098654
I know, right? I feel like the Vargheists and Varghulfs fit that role, but they just dont look the part.

>>51099281
Never, it's a mockup some anon made on how to improve the Tzaangors' garbage warscroll.

>>51099242
The Hell Samurai could work as grave guard, now that I think about it. Fix the blades, add on a shield, that'd work. I could also use them as Marauders, and maybe run them as a mixed Chaos list, using the titty monsters as Daemonettes. My group is pretty chill, so they'd be okay with them. Maybe.

>>51097469
well he is the best thing in the army and he is definetly not in the wrong army.
What would fill this role in legion of Azgorh???

Any word on dark aelf or whatever they are called now?

I have been thinking about trying age of sigmar. But my armies are dark elves and dwarves. Dwarves got some fireslayer update but the rest of them didnt? Dark elves have had nothing so far from what I have seen.

Which is more powerful in age of sigmar, dark elves of dwarves?

>>51098334
Is the game fun? I wanna play with thicc daemonettes and furry bait wolfboobs.

100pts:
Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster
Bloodstoker
10 bloodreavers w/reaverblades
5 wrath mongers
30 bloodletters

>>51099881

1000*

durr

>>51099881
where your bloodsecrator

>>51099913

I need the stoker more, hence the wrathmongers shoeing in.

>>51097501
>>51097525
I thought anon said "all turns". Whoops. Ignore me.

>>51099802
It looks like a pretty fun system, but good luck trying to find another person to play. It works on a tier system, but, this /aosg/. If you want a more indepth analysis, go to /awg/.

>tfw your army was squatted ;_:

>>51100741
Which army was squatted?

>>51100813
Brets and TK

>>51100936
Neither have been squatted though
Models are not being produced but they are still legal for play

Both armies are quite good in competitive play, in fact

>>51096061
Dont you get hand weapon rats in those.

Id run those 40 differently 30 for bonuses and using 10 to charge and flee

>>51100813
Indy tournament recently said no legacy scrolls, and down under they rejected an anons forge world..

>>51097907
Don't. The scale is different, and also are the proportion.
Sell them again on ebay or get another faction and play the game, WoK is pretty cool even if it got the usual Cmon treatment.

this a good start for beastclaw?

Leaders
Huskard on Thundertusk (340)

Units
Mournfang Pack x 2 (200) - battleline
Frost Sabres x 4 (120)

Behemoths
Thundertusk Beastriders (320) - battleline

980/1000pts.

>>51101327
>indy tournament
Wow its fucking nothing.jpeg

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>>51092614

See, this is what I like about the AoS forums! The positive energy!
You can literally take 2-3 threads posted with the same picture (this one for instance was posted in 3 separate threads at the same time) and instantly know which belongs in the AoS forums from the comments alone.

>40k
Barely recognized with a "meh..."

>Stand alone thread
Filled to the brim with Warhammer hipsters and GW haters who nags endlessly on what a shitty cast this is, and how inferior it clearly is to old "goofy".

>AoS
All enthusiastic comments! Hell, even from players who clearly doesn't play any tzeentch chip in, and even the "negative" feedback is still thought through and logical at times(if thats even a word in /tg/).

My point of my post is this. You can clearly see why GW did what they did with WHFB, they wanted the old neckbeards out, and take on a new crowd to bring the hobby back. Pat yourself on the back AoS, you earned it!

>>51097113
Okay I'm totally wrong then, my bad. I had just heard it from people who heard it from other people but never actually heard what the basis was for it.

>>51102050
I think it's pretty meh. But i generally keep negative opinions to myself. I feel that with a different more subtle paint job it's be pretty amazing though. So im hopeful

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>>51102316
Part of the problem is that that's what 1d4chan's AoS article says. Someone needs to get on that. Not me though - I'd just delete the whole block of text, which might start an edit war. I don't want that on my head.

Someone in the standalone thread posted pic related. I think it works: oversaturated colours work for Tzeentch.

>>51102895
Fuck, meant to link that second paragraph to >>51102323

>>51101523
To put it bluntly, I sort of despise Heroic scale. Most of the time, I prefer using normal miniatures, as most infantry like Marauders or Empire Infantry look like troglodites.

Do AoS orruks still talk like the old ones? All cockney-speak and such?

>>51102050
>See, this is what I like about the AoS forums!
>The cherry picking fueled circlejerking!

I tried writing up a short narrative story of a small Dispossessed/Destruction battle a friend and I did today as part of us trying out a Path to Glory campaign.

Would this be something anyone here would be interested in reading, and if so how would I go about sharing it with you?

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>>51102895
While it does work i think it looks even worse that way, personally. I've go for more something more like pic related

>>51103666
1. I am interested, storytime is always welcome.
2. A google doc works. If you don't want to do that, try pastebin.

However, keep in mind that this thread is past the bump limit. Save it for the next one.

>>51103607
Yeah, sure. How else would they talk?

>>51104017
I do wonder what other colors might work for that model. When I think Tzeench I think blues and white and maybe yellow and pink, but no much beyond that.

>>51099281
Man, I wish they'd get a warscroll that well made. As is, Tzaangors are such shit they'd get laughed out of the room by fucking savage orcs.
I really hope the promised update to their warscroll will be more than just the inclusion of the champion and the special weapon guy. Even just a second attack on the non-beak weapons would go a long way in making them more interesting.

just got a Seraphon SC box. Any suggestions as to what I should equip my Saurus Knights with?

>>51103607
Do you think GW would ever stop overusing that horrible 'joke'? Orks looking like gorillas and talking like gungans is probably the one lasting impression GW will leave behind on fantasy/sci-fi, if they'll ever vanish.
that and maybe the chaos gods, mostly nurgle and khorne

>>51104310
Well, could draw in some reds, like I actually think some sort of bright, vibrant reds, less blood red and something more shiny might work well too.

>>51099422
>I can honestly say, those Nasier ones look a hundred times better than the current plastic ones.
>Even if they look like crap, at least they actually look slightly feminine
Fuck you.
Deamonettes are not suppose to fulfill your repressed sexual fantasies.
They are fucking daemons.

The only real flaw of the plastic daemonettes is that they are far too static for such a fast unit.

>>51104960
Their main flaw is not being Juan Diaz daemonettes. Everything else is secondary.

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>>51105132
Speaking of Diaz Daemonettes, i finish them yesterday.

>>51104669
They'll never stop using it. It's part of the Orks' character, and has been ever since Jervis Johnson decided to use them to make fun of the football hooliganism of Warhammer's early years.

>>51104562
Lances imo.

Beware though, knights are a Shit unit with the number you get out of the box. You pretty much need ten to do anything of note

Also I hate the derpy dinosaur, so I used dark elf cold ones to convert them.

>>51105187
Those look nice. I was considering buying a whole bunch of them when the Made to Order thing was around, but I abstained on account of new Tzeentch or Sisters of Battle maybe becoming a thing.

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Do the grand alliance books contain anything not found in other books? And does anyone know where i can find an epub or pdf of them?

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>>51105836
Same question for this book too. I also cannot find an epub or pdf of this either. Please help lovely anons