This is how I lawful neutral.

>>51073456
Then you are doing it wrong.

Dredd was Lawful Lawful.

>>51073526
>implying he's not lawful^3

>>51073456
Dredd is clearly Lawful Proactive. Lawful Neutral is just not breaking laws, but Dredd actually goes out and arrests creeps and law breakers and enforces the rules.

>>51073544
Naw man, the Law Cubes are where you go after your sentencing.

>>51073456
I always thought he was Lawful Good, but his world was so comparatively evil what he did could be considered VERY good. Lawful Good does not mean Lawful Nice.

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>>51073456
This is how I Lawful Good.

>>51073973
Your paladins degenerate into Chaotic Evil psychos midsession?

>>51073847

my sides have been sentenced to 10 years in the cubes

>>51074001
I remember people having a hard time doing pure paragon runs of ME1. Some people just aren't cut out to play paladins.

>>51073973
She was a raging retard.

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>>51073456
This is how I chaotic evil

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this is how I Chaotic Neutral

>>51073947
It varies. Dredd shows genuine care for the populace at times. Other times he piles up bodies like nobodies tomorrow. He'd say it's all just for the sake of order and stability, and given the post apocalyptic hell hole that is Mega City 1, he may be right.

>>51074345
but... which one?

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>>51074373

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This is how I Lawful Evil

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This is how I alignment chart

>>51074410

a chart of unusually fine taste

>>51074410
I recognize everyone but Neutral Evil

>>51074035
>pure paragon runs of ME1
ME2 made it harder and you know it, because you get to do badass shit like kick people out of windows and stuff.

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>>51074410
A weirdly ok chart from what I recognize

>>51074468
He's the jerkass boss gangster from the movie Snatch (one of Guy Ritchie's movies about British Gangsters).

It's like the last movie where Jason Statham got to actually be an actor, and not just do action movie stuff.

I think I have to rewatch it now.

>>51073456
>Implying OP is even one tenth as good as Dredd.
I'm betting a fiver you are just Edgy Stupid.

>>51074615
Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil on that chart are making the same point

>>51074514
I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions.

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Why is Devlin the GOAT lads?

>>51074514
Also it didn't help that some of the Renegade choices were things like "killing the enemy mercenary who is fixing the flying tank they will be using to kill you with" and "Shoot the robot that's coming to kill you".

>>51075865
Like >>51074035 said some people are not cut out to play paladins.

>>51074721
Its how they're making it that matters though. One is trying to justify it within the rules of the game and the developers balance.
The other doesn't even try to hide that he's using broken shit just to win, he'll do it and flaunt it.

>>51074615
The lawful good post there is a piss-poor example of lawful good.

At their core someone who is lawful good believes that law, order, and structure are concepts that are either inherently good and arise from goodness or lead to goodness. A lawful good person will try to have unjust laws repealed or revoked, but they will try to use the law to do it unless given special permission by what they see a higher authority of goodness. Like their liege or a god.

>>51075933
Because assault on a Judge with intent to kill totally doesn't warrant the execution penalty.

>>51076115
That is lawful neutral not lawful good.

>>51074638
>It's like the last movie where Jason Statham got to actually be an actor, and not just do action movie stuff.
Go watch Hummingbird (though admittedly it plays with his macho image).

>>51074721
That's the point

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>>51073456
Dredd is Lawful Evil. He killed half a billion civilians during the Apocalypse War. But, he's also saved Mega City one more times than anyone can count. He's my favorite example of why LE is the best alignment.

>>51074389
Assdamaged Harkonnen detected

>b-but the Historians!
>but the Tyrant!

Not enough spice for you, fatty?

>>51076076
no, that's just another flavor of LG. We can't get bent around the axle on the exact specifics of alignment when all sentient things are so goddamn diverse. Yes you would have people who would use the law, but then you have those who would outrite defy the law to bring it down.

At it's heart, Lawful Good means 'Good guys with a moral code'

>>51076592
Killing that many does not make him Evil it's the motives behind it that matter he is not selfish and not looking doing what he does maliciously therefor he is not evil.

>>51076425
It is Lawful.

Neutral, Evil, Good are all worthless suffixes.

>>51076686
Indeed but you specified Judge and I was talking a Paladin and they have two different approaches to the Law.

>>51076731
I would argue that Dredd and the other Judges are Paladins.

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Dredd did nothing wrong.

What the fuck were they expecting, seriously?

D&D classes and alignments don't exist in the Dredd universe. You're all wankers.

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>>51073456
This is how I chaotic good.

>>51076771
You could argue that they are but I always saw paladins as more good than Lawful shining beacons of morality and all that, Dredd doesn't rally fit the bill, it's not about the morality it's about the Law.

>>51076651
>motives are more important than actions XD

Deontologist scum belong on >>>r/kant

This is a consequentialist board

>>51077033
>not understanding how the alignment system works

A good person is moral, an evil is immoral a neutral person is is a mix of both, or non the the above.

>>51076877
*chaotic stupid

>>51074638
The pig guy right?

>>51076592
Not really if he was Lawful evil he would be using the law for evil, but he is just following and enforcing the law.

>>51076845
>b-but they started it!

That doesn't make murder legal, cit.

>>51077180
Right, so I can kill as many people as I want, but as long as I don't enjoy it, I'm not evil.

Have you thought for one second how retarded you sound?

>>51077262
>Anarkiddos

Cancer

>>51077355

>That doesn't make murder legal, cit.

You know, sometimes when I see people like you IRL, I wonder how your bloodline survived to this day and age with that kind of bullshit in your blood and brain.

>>51077355
>"Motive" is "Did I enjoy it or not"
Wow.

>>51077384
It's because 1st and 2nd world civilization, as most people understand it, is specifically set up to allow those that nature would select to be killed off to continue living.

>>51077355
>Right, so I can kill as many people as I want, but as long as I don't enjoy it, I'm not evil.
Not my argument I'm saying that killing is justified unter the ight circumstances, self defense being one.

So why is everyone always going about how "Hurr durr, CN is the "I do what I want with no regards to anything" alignment? Wouldn't CE be closer to the "Randumb, I do what I want" alignment?

...who even thought that such a flawed system like alignments was a good thing in the first place?

>>51073947
Importantly Dredd doesn't consider himself a hero or even a good person just a guy doing his job

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The movie was fucking great. Urban was (still is) a big fan of Dress and it fucking showed.
Rookie is also possibly the only woman that I would claim as my waifu, and I don't fo that kind of things often.

Really bummed that it failed because of shit marketing. Urban really tried to push for a sequel or a serie, but it didn't work out. Such a shame really.

>>51077699
Because few GMs allow CE characters.
But they do allow CN characters that are inevitably played like CE psychopaths.

>>51077991
So as I thought, it's a case of people playing the alignment "wrong"? (Since they are "kind of" playing CN as CE)

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>>51077924
I agree with this. I would have loved to have seen Call-Me-Kenneth and the robot uprising or bad shit going down over multiple films leading up to Judge Death.

Urban Dredd doing pic related would have been great.

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>>51075459
Because he's charming, witty, a riot at parties and capable of swatting a vampire's head clean off even before his little accident. Always brings a note of joyous gaiety to any outing!

>>51078099
Urban dredd was great all over. I was genuinely surprised by the quality of hos acting. Shows how much a role can make or break depending on the guy playing it. His non stop frown must have been hard to get used to.

>>51078245
Urbs Dredd alignment is easier to determine. It's Lawful Frown.

>>51077924
The funny thing is, the other one was probably closer to the comics.

>>51077191
*chaotic britbongistan

>>51076618
ScatteredKeks

>>51077487
Idiocracy was a documentary.

>>51073526
fpbp

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How does one play Chaotic Good, truly?

I believe Chaotic Good to be like "fuck everything, I just like to help others; Is it wrong to mercilessly kill a robber if I get back grandma's purse."

>>51079837
>How does one play Chaotic Good, truly?
You do the right thing and fuck the rules.

>>51077191
isnt it funny?

>>51079837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xjr2hnOHiM

>>51077924
The IP owner is still looking at getting a series on Netflix of one of his properties. Dredd is one potential candidate.

>>51080386

>Netflix funded Dredd serial

Anon, don't you -dare- play with my emotions like that.

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>>51080386
Make it happen. Take Urban, Rookie and the crew back and it would be so fucking great. They all did an amazing job, and we know people like some gritty series, it would work very well I'm sure.

>>51076592
Holy shit, Dredd goes to Australia?!

>>51079837

Be a Robin Hood like figure. You do good because it's the right thing to do, but you do it with little to no regard for the law.

>>51074615
>I'm lawful evil
>chaotic neutral
my sides

what alignment would be a paladin who doesn't know what good or bad is and thus follows the law in all his actions, believing that lawfulness equals goodness?

>>51077033
>man burns down his house and neighbourhood
>scenario 1: he was having a barbecue and the cooking fire got out of hand
>scenario 2: he wanted the insurance money from his house and the flames spread by accident
>scenario 3: he hated his neighbours and wanted to see them all burn
>the men in each of these scenarios are equally wicked

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>>51077384
>how did you manage to reproduce
As of last night, the answer lies in your mother's uterus

>>51077352
>killing 500 million people isn't evil
Careful with those edges, kid

>>51080550
>motives, which are imaginary and exist entirely in your head, should determine whether your actions, which occur in the real world, are just
wew lad

>>51077191
go to bed jamie oliver, your pizza sucks

>>51076592
>>51080447
Dredd vs Space Commisars on The Moon is better.

>>51077516
Are we still talking about Judge Dredd? Judges choose to be Judges. They're Lawful Neutral at best, Lawful Evil at worst.

You don't get to pull the "self defense" card when your job is to kill people.

>>51082835
There job is more than killing people and self defense was just an example judges are not above the law and can only kill when the situation requires it like when the suspect has killed an innocent.

>>51074410
Man, death wasn't true neutral. She has some of the similarities, but if anything new Dream would be True Neutral. Or maybe Morpheus in his later stages went up to TN.

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>>51076592
>Lawful Evil because of the Apocalypse War.

Dredd's actions were in complete self-defence.

1. East Meg One launched the war first, unprovoked and for aggressive purposes.
2. Half of Mega-City One had been nuked to the ground and the other half was either under occupation or an active war zone. East Meg One had murdered a similar number of Mega City One citizens.
3. The only way for Mega City One to win was a nigh-on impossible suicide mission as there was pretty much no other way for the surviving MC1 forces to last out against a continued East Meg assault. Dredd expected to die after he had launched.
4. The alternative of surrender would mean East Meg One, which was now being ruled by a maniac warlord, would be the world power and would likely crush the remaining Mega Cities of the world.

It's a Lawful Good act. Lawful Good doesn't mean Lawful Nice.

>>51074615
>Trying to remove alignment discussion
>Evil

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>>51073456
This is how I CN

>>51083161
Lawful Justified doesn't mean Lawful Good.

>>51077191
booty blasted leave fag

>>51084330
A justified act is by definition just. Justice is unanimously defined as a Good quality.

Therefore: any act which can be soundly justified is Good.

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this is how i true neutral

>>51077191

What a cuck.

>>51076076
>unless given special permission by what they see a higher authority of goodness. Like their liege or a god.
Or you know, their moral code and understanding of right and wrong. Someone doesn't have to be 100% lawful to be lawful good, they just have to believe in the ideals of law and try to use them whenever possible. If the law cannot be used to carry out good actions it can still be circumvented. What you are describing is lawful stupid.
>The teenage girl betrothed to a 50 year old man tried to escape her marriage. That's illegal so she has to be executed because god didn't specifically tell me that I had to save her.
Is lawful stupid.

>>51084841
>Justice is unanimously defined as a good quality

No it isn't. It's a Lawful quality.

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this is how i chaotic neutral

>>51074514
That was exactly my play style, paragon except for when an asshole needs to be punted out a window.

>>51074388
>>51074373
>>51074345
My sides

>>51076877
Who?

>>51085016
>Stirner
>having an alignment
alignment is a spook, anon

>>51074468
Brick Top.

He's a righteous infliction of retribution, manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case, by an 'orrible cunt.

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>>51086693
Nigel Farage

>>51074468

Brick Top: Pull your tongue out of my arsehole, Gary. Dogs do that. You're not a dog, are ya Gary?
Gary: No, no I'm not.
Brick Top: But you do have all the characteristics of a dog, Gary. All except loyalty.
[Errol zaps Gary]
Turkish: [Voice over] It's rumored that Brick Top's favorite means of dispatch involves a stun gun, a plastic bag, a roll of tape, and a pack of hungry pigs.
Brick Top: [to Errol's companion] You're a ruthless little cunt, Liam, I'll give you that. But I've got no time for grassers.
[John throws a plastic bag over Liam's head and suffocates him]
Brick Top: Feed 'em to the pigs, Errol.
[to the two boxers, who are now staring in horror]
Brick Top: What the fuck are you two looking at?

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Apparantly how the mods Lawful Neutral tonight.

>>51087959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGlUUAmjxk

Every time I think of Brick Top, I also think of the same actor in the Armando Ianucci Show as the East End Thug.

>>51079036
It's an originally british comic, published originally only for the british market. I think you are wrong.
I'm not saying it is exclusively about Britain now, but it was conceived there, for british readers, originally.

The character was originally based on a very strict monk who taught at a boarding school that one of the original writers attended, and it was envisioned as taking "Dirty Harry" to his absolute logical conclusion.

>>51083191
It's always been about satirizing the balance between the power of State and authority and the stupidity of people acting freely.
That isn't uniquely american.
Judge Dredd has some very american iconography, but the punks and bad-guys that he figth in the early stories have a very british aesthetic.

>>51088111
Appropriate in a Judge Dredd-thread, I guess.

>>51082835
You're right anon, police and judges are not defending themselves. So it's not self defense.

They are defending the legal citizens of their city from scum of the earth that wants to rape, torture, mutilate, murder, and pump incredibly addictive illegal narcotics through your veins.

And sometimes in order to protect innocent defenseless people from monsters like that you have to shoot a whole lot of motherfuckers until they're dead.

Don't like that? Then fine, you can move to a third world shithole where no one cares if you get gang raped in your every orifice buy a dozen dicks infested with multiple STDs.

>>51087884

And yet he accomplished what he set out to do.

And Judge Dredd is still seen as a laughingstock on par with WH40k.

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>>51087884

This letwing propaganda in comics thing never gets old...oh wait it does.

>>51077924
I liked the movie but it was more of a loose reinterpretation of the comics than an adaptation.

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>>51085932
And by extent, this is how I Chaotic Large.

>>51088302
It was far closer to the heart of what the comics are than the Stallone Dredd.
The only real complaint I've ever heard about it was the uniforms.

>>51088111
I have to say, even though I was one of the people that gor their posts deleted, I'm happy if they keep it up like that. I'll completely admit we went off ropic wildly, and if the mods stay vigilant like that and manage to set a thread back on its track lile they did, I'm all up for it.

>>51088302
How so? I haven't read the comics so I wouldn't know.
On that note, is there any way to get a huge compilation of dredd comics? If possible the old black and white ones. I'm even willing to buy them.

>>51088584
Yeah well Stallone wanted it to be a comedy after all.

I actually preferred those uniforms. Sure they deviated from the comics but they made sense while staying completely identifiable.

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>>51088599
>On that note, is there any way to get a huge compilation of dredd comics?

The complete case files. One tome per publication year.

>>51088650
Sweet, thanks buddy.

>>51088274
I don't think anyone has the right to complain about leftwing populism in Judge Dredd or AD2000 in general.

It is like buying a lemon-lime soda and complaining that you wanted orange instead.

>>51079837

Depends on the person. Alignments are more a general label than a straight jacket that is 'You will always do X or believe Y'.

The last CG good person I played was a Privateer and Pirate Hunter. She loved the freedom of the seas where there was no authority higher than her, she loved fashion and decadence and she hated slavery and piracy with a passion. While she loved all the wonderful things being decadently rich could buy her, she didn't put it higher than helping people. She was more than willing to miss out on a dress she loved if someone needed a hand.

She was, however, very small-scale in her goodness. She wasn't doing goodness focused on the world as a whole but fighting injustice where she saw it. It helped her keep her sanity, among other things. It's stressful worrying about all the people suffering all over the world so she just focused on 'Do good whenever there is good that needs doing nearby'.

>>51081816
>all this bait
>in one comment

>>51088678

There's a more elegant way of doing it than that for sure. I know Judge Dredd was not always this blunt.

>>51089068
True, they could have arrested him for being a rubber mutant.

>>51077191
[European booing]

>>51080386

That would be sexy as fuck.

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>>51077191

>>51076592
Bullshit, I had a paladin Genocide an entire race before and he didn't come close to falling. It's all about context and motive.

>>51079837
Be a loose cannon cop who doesn't play by the rules.

>>51076686
Now this is Lawful Neutral

>>51090017
To be fair, he don't have a literal supervillain like Dick Cheney as his vice.

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>>51088678

>>51088599
>How so? I haven't read the comics so I wouldn't know.
It's a lot more gritty and realistic than the comics. The comics had evil interdimensional undead judges brought back to life through voodoo as major villains, and most people didn't commit crimes because they were poor, but because all of life's necessities had gotten so automated that they had become bored.

So yeah, Stallone's movie was actually closer to the comics than Dredd, even though Dredd was better.

>>51093830
>but because all of life's necessities had gotten so automated that they had become bored

That issue where a bunch of people trashed all the janitor robots in a building so they could clean it themselves was something else.

>>51074410
Was Kyubey actually evil? I thought he did what he did for the sake of his species, which seems more true neutral. It's been a while since I watched the show though.

>>51076620
Or to put it another way, lawful good refers to a morally good person who places a high value on ethics. They'll do the right thing, but they'll also try their hardest to do it the right way.

>>51098838
kyubey did what he did to stave off the heat death of the universe.

Doesn't make him not a dick, though.

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>>51073456
I have always considered him to be the very image of gygaxian lawful good paladin

>>51088678
>food analogy
am I on /v/?

>>51100781
>not getting the reference.

>>51076620
>'Good guys with a moral code'

How could a good guy lack a moral code? Just because you're not obeying the laws of the land doesn't mean you're without a moral code. The only people who can be without moral codes are bad guys by definition, hence how describing someone as amoral isn't generally considered a compliment any more so then immoral is.

>>51077191
>manages to almost single-handedly remove their country from one of the most powerful political unions in history
>stupid

You can call him a lot of things but that's not one of them.

>>51077355
>That doesn't make murder legal, cit.
They knew what they were getting into when they broke THE LARRRRRRW!

>>51077699
I think the distinction's meant to be that CE are assholes in additions to being crazy compared to CN who are just crazy. It's like the difference between a crazy guy who needs to take pills and a crazy guy who keeps a collection of heads in their freezer.

>>51080550
>deliberately starting a fire
>accidentally having a fire start
Totally the same actions guys!

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this is how i Chaotic Good

>>51077924
The absolute best thing about that movie was the fight scenes. It honestly felt like a pair of well trained soldiers versus hordes of gangers with no training at all. Dread maximizes his advantage over his opponents whenever he possibly can, and that's why it's so damn tense when he runs into the few scenes at the end where he no longer has that edge.

>>51088678
>authors in the past managed to make well-crafted political satire in the past
>therefore modern authors can churn out half-assed blatant propaganda and you can't complain about it