D&D that guy

>>51067235
>kulaks
>innocent

Fuck off back to >>>r/evisionism, running dog

>>51067235
>She
Found the problem.
You're all probably too chickenshit to say anything because you think you'll get up in them guts if you go along with it.

Just to let you know, you won't.

>>51067352
The main problem is the DM, we already brought it up because she's being a cunt about it but the DM is too much of a faggot to deal with the issue. Don't know why he didn't pay us individually in the first place. It's one of the things destroying the campaign because we can't buy stuff for our characters when needed.

Has she also requisitioned your characters testicles?

>>51067235
This is such an idiosyncratic issue I doubt you'll find a useful answer here.

>>51067235
so stop giving her the privlege of moneyholder. if the majority of the group doesn't like it, simply take the money from her and write up a new party contract for distribution of treasure.

>>51067426
just force the issue. don't ask the dm to change it, get the players together and make a decision. the DM will arbitrate your actions. if the DM won't fairly arbitrate your actions in such a situation then fire the DM too.

>>51067540
She has the DM by the balls, it's obviously an issue with players but he's just a bitch.
>>51067592
Wasn't expecting anything other then shitposting here, just another that guy story to tell.

Are you just trying very poorly to get a rise or are you somehow so poor that you can't even afford free internet pictures that would be more appropriate then your silly little OP image?

I mean, I can't imagine being that poor but there's probably some pretty pathetic folks in 4chan.

>>51067679
you should have posted some of your spankin hot paid-for clip art with that post.

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>>51069289
Why are communists so delusional?

What about saying "no"?

>le ebin nobody will mess with females maymay
That said fuck her just take the gold

>>51067235
Become her bitch and start giving her your equipment.

>>51067662
This. Deal with it character.

Also, why so many /pol teir posts?

>>51067235
What's the make-up of the party?

>>51069578
By which I mean, what are the inter-character relationships like? Would it make sense in character for any of the characters to let someone else carry their gold?

literally get your characters together and take the gold from her.

>>51067662

/thread

My group personally just splits any gold we get equally between ourselves. It's sort of an unwritten rule at this point. Mind you, we don't care if someone goes out and tries to make their own money, but when we get cash or loot as a group, it's usually divided. Sidesteps the entire issue of who's holding onto the gold and any butthurt over spending the party gil on something someone doesn't agree with.

Also not saying Communism has never been tried, but if we went by what form of government countries and world leaders call themselves, North Korea would be a democratic republic, which is obviously not the case.

>>51067235
Have you tried discussing it like mature human beings instead of bitching on an anonymous image board?

>>51069323
Cuz is justified to kill anyone that dont follow the Red cause

>>51075594
>>51069323
>>51067235
>all these memesters

The in/v/asion is real. Your jokes are really fetch, I'll admit, but if the means of production aren't in the hands of the working class, then it is BY DEFINITION not socialism.

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>>51067235
Tell her she's violating the NAP and seize all the assets for yourself. Anarcho-Capitalism is the only way you should ever handle party finances.

>>510758
>Muh socialism realy didnt happened

>>51067235
A Judas if I ever heard of one.

>>51076141
Not an argument.

>>51075888
trips of truth cannot be denied

>>51067235
> Roll sleight of hand
> Gud rolls
> She can't say she spotted it and cant just happen to check, would be breaking character.
>Take her gold too, fuck it
>Divvy up the plunder.
>Kill her if you so desire. It's D&D, anything goes.

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Communists need to be thrown out of helicopters desu.

>>51067235
Say that due to there being an issue with her failure as money-holder, she will be relieved of her duties, and furthermore all monies held by her that are not of her proportional share of the party's gold shall be distributed to the rest of the party.

Is that so hard?

>not killing her in game
>not taking the gold yourself

come on breh, dont put up with this shit in game, if people are going to be cunts in game treat them like cunts then laugh when they bitch.

>>51067340
HURR DURR these people have more than me
HURR DURR I don't care if they got there through work, dedication and frugality

Why are marxists so shit at everything.

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>>51067340
Tankies go home, Marx has been utterly discredited in academic circles for decades.

>>51082564
Dude you're delusional if you think capitalism rewards anything other than family connections and skin tone. Here's a question, why don't we just make everything free? Then no one would have to work. It won't happen because the fat cats that run this country only care about making more money at your expense.

Traitors like you will be the first on the wall when the revolution comes.

>>51082836
>imperialist science deniers deny science!
Stop the presses.

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>>51082947
Go jump out of a helicopter, pinko!

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>>51082947
Someone still has to work to make the shit you fucking retard. Where are the gibmedats going to come from if nobody works?

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>>51082947
>Unironically being a communist

You aren't going to infringe upon my right to private property and business, Ivan. Maybe the next group that tries communism will last more than a decade before it collapses.

>>51082947
Captailism can reward those who work hard or degenerate into cronyism that only benefits the top. Every socialist place already is the latter. The inventor of Tetris could have been a millionaire had he been born American, but because he was unfortunately been in Commieland he got jack shit for his game's success.

Why would you support a system that a corruption incarnate? The most you can expect is a pat on the back. At worst, you'll be purged when the party decides you're too good at protesting corrupt systems decides you're a potential threat.

>>51083064
>next group that tries communism

Actually, most of those self professed "communist" regimes were closer to state capitalist.

>>51082947
>i-it's denying science to disagree with Marx! It doesn't matter that his work is riddled with math errors! It doesn't matter that he unironically believed in labour theory of value! It doesn't matter that he was a massive psychological reductionist! I-i-imperialist!

I actually use Marx's methods of analysis as part of my work (because they work), have read his works, etc. His political and economic theories are, in a word, horseshit. Marx simply didn't have the information we have at our disposal, and with a dose of holistic analysis his model falls apart. If you transplanted him to a modern university campus, he wouldn't be a Marxist, because unlike you Marx actually possessed the capability to think independently and question everything rather than blindly devote himself to a book written more than a century ago.

>>51082564
>HURR DURR
Nothing ever makes me more mad than sharing an opinion with an idiot. Way to go convincing the neutral observer to side with you.

>>51067340
>innocent farmers who don't want to starve to death
>bad

>>51074283
Most games this is typically what we end up doing,

The only game we didn't was a game where we were looking to be a major marketing force in the game world, so we basically split all the gold evenly, but added an extra "share"(there were 4 of us, so we split the gold 5 ways). The extra share basically went into a "party/emergency fund" that was for business expenses and any emergencies that might come up. We left the party fund with the Paladin and we never ran into any issues.

>>51082998
>>51083005
>>51083064
Not an argument.

>>51083125
>>51083222
If it's SOO irrational, why does Marxist ideology dominate every institution of higher learning in the western world?

>>51083675
>If it's SOO irrational, why does Marxist ideology dominate every institution of higher learning in the western world?
inb4 the Jews

>>51069323
For the same reason capitalists are.

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>>51083675
>why does Marxist ideology dominate every institution of higher learning in the western world?

see pic related

Your (((ideology))) has only been good for eliminating potential threats to (((certain people's))) interests and starving and impoverishing hundreds of millions.

>>51074283
North Korea is a prime example of the "People's Democratic Republic of Tyranny". Basically, the more redundant and "good sounding" a country calls itself, the less good it actually is. Democratic Republic, is a redundant term.

>>51083734
>>51083691
As if on cue. Fuck off back to /pol/

>>51083675
It doesn't. Marxist ideology doesn't work, because people cannot ever be expected to work together selflessly for a common good. And it is an extraordinarily easy ideology for greedy, selfish individuals to seize power and corrupt it.

>>51083787
At this point, /pol/ just needs to fuck off from this site.

>>51083794
*sigh* Its strange to see someone so naïve. Looks like you've got a lot of growing up to do.

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>>51083787
>>51083814

How about fucking off back to /leftypol/ or tumblr?
you can take a helicopter ride there

>>51083852
Is Pinochet the new Ian Smith? I see him everywhere, now.

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>>51083870
He gave very good helicopter rides

>>51083847

>Ignores that greedy selfish people rose to power through violence in communist societies.

>Calls other people naive

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Fuck off /pol/

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>this kills the /pol/ack

>>51067235
why do you even allow this in the first place? Who made her treasurer? I wouldn't stand for that irl and neither would most of my characters

>>51086963
>>51086975
What does that tatoo mean?

>>51086963
>>51086975
>lol i will spam in every thread
>this totally won't make people hate me

>>51067235
Start making purchases. Give yourselves the items and say to deduct the money.

Use the items.

Your DM will either have to literally tell you that you weren't allowed to buy the items because the cunt isn't giving you the money, or he'll have to tell her to deduct the fucking cost for the shit you perfectly legally bought already. If its the former, and its OOC, you know to gtfo. If its IC you have reason to act on that. And if its the latter than you've just bypassed the issue successfully and shown her that all her shit is hollow and means nothing.

>>51074283
When my parties get big bags of gold I usually try to bring up a couple things we should consider buying as a party because they benefit everyone, before splitting the remainder up between the party.

Stuff like an Orb of Restoration, or .. some item I forgot the name of, something of Alarm or so, which you hand to the person currently having nightwatch and when shit goes down they can drop it and it casts an AE spell that wakes every party member up in top condition with no fatigue and slightly buffed IIRC, to instantly be ready to react to ambush. Basically so no one has to bite the bullet and spend all their money on shit thats for the entire party and doesn't benefit their character directly while everyone powerbuilds.

>>51067235
>when payed as a group she holds onto it

Why do you let her?

>>51087569
>What does that tatoo mean?
According to the internet, it means they like black dick.

>>51083176
>state capitalist
>a term made up by communists to explain why IT WASN'T REAL SOCIALISM I SWEAR GUYS

>>51083559
>innocent farmers
Go read history book, idiot. Kulak is a word for wealthy opportunistic peasant. Kulaks were first persecuted by Russian Empire for being greedy speculating fucks during famine and WWI.

>>51087960
Belarusian here.
Any wealthy peasant, especially ones who hired other peasants to work for them, were proclaimed "kulak" so that government could seize the moneys

>>51088049
>so that government could seize the moneys
You mean tzarist government robbing peasants for no reason?

>>51083222

Marx wrote, to his best, with Engels, in the mid and late 1800s.

Then came the unions, the regulations, the agencies, the trust busting, the min wages, the welfare state, and no matter how much many cry that such is simply postponing the 'inevitable', the rose rises. A lot of 'late stage capitalists' point at the USA and ignore the rest of the first world because it denies their point. It's easy for them to point at the USA, which is NOT number one, and cry foul.

inb4 'you killed rosa'

I love how people who are shouting about W-WHAT ABOUT MUH TZAR are forgetting that October Revolution was agains the bourgeous democrat Provisionary Government, which took power after the February Revolution, which actually seized power from the tzar and was done by a liberal coalition of forces.

>>51083755

I actually use this and turn it on its head.

The "People's Democratic Republic of Sol" is a socdem nordic model new keynesian state over the solar system. They got into an economic rut, because thats the damn economy, and a sort of weird eco or antrocentric fascist group emerged in the outer system to fight the PDRoS, and not even to eradicate it but just take over and then go on and off to fuck over the economy more with the goal to terraform every rock and launch ships to every star; which is a goal of the PDRoS, just on a more realistic timetable.

>>51067426
>the DM is too much of a faggot to deal with the issue

Its like when I hand out magic items to players.

>Which one of you wants to take this
>Silence no one volunteers
>The one hoarder guys is the only one that says anything
>Guess Dave gets it then

If the whole table remains silent and doesn't complain it's not a problem.

If every other player is too much of a pussy to argue then fuck em.

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>Unironically arguing about an ideology that has killed 100 million people in the past century
>On a machine and website made possible by the counter ideology

>>51083005
>Someone still has to work to make the shit

Not taking sides here, but it's intersting to note that the part of the population that is "making shit" that is important to live is like 5-10% of any western country's population. Most people today are not, in fact, creating anything vital, or contributing to it.

>>51082947
If everything that gets made is given away for free, why would anyone make anything? What's in it for them?

>>51083675
>Marxist ideology dominate every institution of higher learning in the western world?
Source?

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>Arguing about politics on a Taiwanese Trading card Forum

>>51067679
>silly little

This is the most condescending bullshit ever, and will immediately make everyone stop taking you seriously.

>>51067235
>loot and payment isn't automatically divided in pre-established (often equal) parts amongst the members of the band

What's this party gold shit? Why does it even exist?

>>51088697
believe it or not there's more to life than making money

>>51089409
That doesn't answer the question. In the proposed situation, where all goods and services are provided free of compensation, why would anyone create the goods or provide services? Please answer the question.

>>51088088
Explain to me how changing a bad regime for an infinitely shittier one is good.

>>51089490
>bad regime for an infinitely shittier one is good
You got it backwards

>>51083794
>people cannot ever be expected to work together selflessly for a common good
wew lad

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>>51088502
>What is the Congo Free State
>What is WW1
>What is WW2
>What is the Cold War
>What is the British Raj
>What is Manifest Destiny
>etc etc etc
no you're right communism is bad capitalism a good boy he dindu nuthin

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>>51089930
WW2 was started by national socialists though

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>>51075888
>Your jokes are really fetch
Fuck off commie.

>>51067235

This isn't the DM's problem, it isn't his job to fix it. Just say you want your share of the money in your possession.

Your problem isn't that the DM is ruling against you by fiat, it's that you want to get your way without her arguing with her. Like 90% of that guy threads, your issue is that some player is doing something shitty and you've been putting up with it for far too long because you're looking for a way out that doesn't involve a confrontation. Quit being passive aggressive.

Having a group treasurer makes no sense and you should never have allowed it in the first place. Pooling the money back together for the rare group purchase is way easier than doling it out piecemeal for ordinary expenses. Obvious attempt to be the petty tinpot dictator. That said, you're there and you just have to be firm that it's your share of the money and you want it in your purse period. She'll bitch and moan like it's some wild weird imposition but that's the price you pay for taking the easy way out before.

Better if the rest of the group also asks. But don't count on it. They'll play it safe too.

Don't get the DM involved. This isn't his fight.

>>51088697
The continued availability of free stuff, the well-being of the nation, and the pleasure of work that one enjoys.

>>51090986
Small communes that a group of people set up for themselves routinely fail because people are inherently selfish, usually not great selfish but just enough to make it unsustainable on any type of large scale. Communism is a fucking pipe dream and you thinking it could work is akin to children believing in Santa Claus.

>>51082836
>I'd call you a class traitor if you had any class
Damn sick burn right ther

>>51090871
I don't think you understand that this is a thinly veiled /pol/ thread

>>51089930
Colonialism isn't capitalism retard. Conquering a land and forcing them to do business with you exclusively is the opposite of free trade.

>>51091380
Wow, so it wasn't real capitalism

>>51089489
Otherwise you go into the gulag for subversive activity. It's not that hard to understand.
Communism works as long as everyone prefers security over freedom and the country has resources and manpower to exploit brutally

>>51090986
Ah yes, I should make free stuff and give it away because other people will obviously do the same. Altruism and Patriotism of the level you're describing are rare. Stupidly rare, because the people who are willing to do it in your scenario, would be willing to do it now.

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>mfw people on 4chan are viewed as 'contrarian'
>gets triggered by any socialism/communism related subject

>>51092482
>WAAAH WHY ISN'T EVERYONE ON 4CHAN AN ANTI WHITE LEFTISTS LIKE ME WAAAH
you SJWs are so pathetic

>>51092955
>implying I'm a sjw
Well meme'd, my comrade.

>>51093380
There's no real difference. You both deserve to be dragged out of your house at around 3 am, put on your knees, and have one put behind your ear.

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>>51093452
Projecting might be a meme, but you are currently projecting fαm

>>51083176
>Actually, most of those self professed "communist" regimes were closer to state capitalist.

Aaaaaand see >>51067235

The circle is closed

>>51093452
Not going to happen, by that time I will be tied up in NKVD basement at the Lubyanka

>>51076000
>Eve Online
My nigga

>>51076000
That's Imperium tier shit. Small Administratum clerk's mistake causes huge crusade and purges yadda yadda.

>>51093616
Not an argument

>>51083675
>If it's SOO irrational, why does Marxist ideology dominate every institution of higher learning in the western world?

Because marxists are entryists, and everybody knows that these days, to get anywhere, you have to pretend to understand and like marxism.

That doesn't make marxism rational, that makes the people who lie about marxism rational, because the choice is to do that or get thrown out.

Also: You'll notice that marxism generally only dominates those departments where you don't need real results but can get ahead on stupid political status games. It has yet to get its hooks into any of the STEM fields where actual results are expected.

>>51091469
It's called a State :
It enforces a legal monopoly over something in an area, using weapons to shut down competition whenever it arises.
The official aims may vary but the ultimate goal is always the same : to make sure some families will remain firmly in power over all others, independently of the skills and capacities of said others.

>>51093516
... That isn't projection. I'd ask if you were retarded, but you're a communist, so that already tells me you are.

>>51093736
Not him but, you can say the same thing about a socialist state.

>>51067235
Quit shitposting.

>>51090986
>the well-being of the nation, and the pleasure of work that one enjoys
These two reasons are mostly horseshit. So lets talk about the one that actually matters.

>The continued availability of free stuff
This is important and could be used to motivate people to work. But what happens with Bill who works very hard sees Robert slacking off and enjoying the same comfort? Bill might decide to slack off too. Anyone who sees Robert slacking off might decide to do the same. Now I'm full aware that the slippery slope is a logical fallacy, but behaviors are learned through imitation. If a lazy slacker has more children than a hard worker, then those children (who's behaviors will be imitated from their parents) will likely also be lazy slackers. Believe it or not, this is a problem that can be seen already in the school systems.

>>51093736
Sufficiently skilled and capable individuals will still find their way to power regardless of the regime. Perhaps not formally but pragmatically for sure.

>>51093736
>the ultimate goal is always the same : to make sure some families will remain firmly in power over all others, independently of the skills and capacities of said others
You've just described pretty much every country in the world including US and Western democracies.

>>51088697
Try asking your GM that next game.

Sometimes people do things for motives other than money.

>>51093718
>>51083675
What dominates universities today is far from traditional marxism.

the discussion you guys are having is unpracticed.

>>>/his/

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>>51093845
>Sometimes people do things for motives other than money.

>>51083675
>If it's SOO irrational, why does Marxist ideology dominate every institution of higher learning in the western world?
Because communist spooks infiltrated and the world doesn't do anything to change it because every dumbfuck is entitled to their opinion.
And who gives a shit if an academic believes in socialism. Unless they're an economist their opinion in the matter means next to nothing. And I doubt there is an economist in the whole world who thinks communism works in any fashion.

>>51093940
>Unless they're an economist their opinion in the matter means next to nothing.
Careful there. Historians are very dangerous.

Let me tell you about 'real socialism' or socialism in practice as by USSR example
First thing, communism was a thing that was being built. Something that was in the future, something grandchildren will see (or as Khruschev said, children). Inb4 'war communism', that was seen as failed experiment even by Lenind & co (unsustainable, at least)

>>51094032
So, second thing. Why did everyone knew system in USSR was not in fact communism? Putting the banal reason of dangling the carrot aside, there was one thing that theoreticians agreed on: there would be no state in communism (that was one of the reasons communism can only be worldwide in theory), whereas in USSR state was only expanding. So: Stalin was building socialism in a single country, Breznev declared that USSR succeeded in building 'developed socialism' etc

>>51094191
So it wasn't real communism?

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>>51067235
I did the exact same thing with one of my party's gold.

We started a Dictatorship of the Proletariat near the middle of the campaign.

Just let it happen.

>>51094191
Third thing is unrelated. Well, related, but tangential
For all talk of Proletarian Internationalism, soviet national policies were 'interesting'. Unlike (for contrary example, Russian empire) all foreign nationals were inherently suspect and one soured foreign relation away from persecution. Volga Germans, Coreans in Far East, Jews after 60s etc. tragic also was the fate of foreign socialists who immigrated into USSR and repatriates from Europe. They were one spy suspicion away from labor camps and as a rule that suspicion arose
Note: nationalism in USSR was not, in fact, Russian nationalism. But that is a curious and debatable topic

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>>51082998
>>51083005
>>51083064
>>51083125
>>51083222
>>51088697
>>51083734
>>51083794
>>51086933
>>51088717
>>51093718
>>51093940
>being this buttflustered from the mere mention of communism you swallow the bait hook, line, and sinker

>>51082947
>why don't we just make everything free? Then no one would have to work.
>>51083675
>why does Marxist ideology dominate every institution of higher learning in the western world?

It's a fucking /pol/fag having a giggle.

>>51094309
What is real communism? There was never society to identify itself as communist, so the point is moot
There were on the other hand countries that described their system as socialism, so one can discuss what socialism was in practice - what real socialism is
Inb4 that supports communists. Not really, as all communists are invariably socialists and are cast down by criticism of socialism just as well (hence their defense of 'learning from past mistakes').
And criticism of communism and other hiliastic gnostic teachings (like English Puritanism) is the province of theology anyway.

>>51094764
And, to elaborate further, all those that tried to build communism committed atrocities in the name of it and we're proud (or supposed to be proud) of that. In that regard Op's picture is correct. But none of them succeed in their building well enough to say they did

>>51094764
>What is real communism?
Pure ideology!
>zizek.jpg

>>51094604
Battling 'Great Russian shauvenism' (spelling incorrect and I am lazy to fix it) was one of the cornerstones of USSR national policy. There were several processes in the times of Stalin that dealt with that (Leningrad Case); RSFSR did not have its own Communist Party or a proper head (until it did and that immediately caused dissolution of USSR (small hyperbole)). Proscribed goal was to make a new 'soviet nation' born from 'fraternity of nations'. Mainly that resulted in institutialised support of any non-russian nation's culture, formation of its political entities (even if there were none before) (technically not all of them but as many as it was realistically possible), and making new culture and identity - based on Russian culture as source material, but with history of it starting in 1917.
There were also numerous artifacts of border making and state-building. In some cases newly organized states were supposed to be nation-states but in fact we're not continuously populated by the same nation. In the past that was not that much of an issue, but independent Azerbaidzan (for example) could ill afford Armenian enclave
Nb that is why feudalism is in fact better then the nation states. People cared way less about making uniform nations back then

>>51094870
Pure ideology is by definition "theoretical communism"
Thankfully, a convincing case may be built that all and any attempts to follow that ideology result in bloodbaths. And proper communists revel in them, because (as Lenin said) they are unfettered by Borgnine morality

Oh, another bag of worms. How socialists embrace sectarian divide and violence! Accusation flow left and right, purges follow! Maybe if communist block was not fractured, it would have won the Cold War
Nb some said that USSR won the Cold War then lost the Detente. Not like division of that period matters much - result remains the same.
NB winning the Cold War in their interpretation means deescalation from United States, who are seen as having started the Cold War by escalating tensions with the USSR; when nuclear parity was truly settled in and arms race won by USSR another, better approach was tried

>>51093845
Ah yes, because running a co-operative game for four of your friends is the same as building beds and giving them to strangers for nothing. I am the GM, I do it for my own pleasure and for the enjoyment of my friends. But there is a massive difference between leisure and the described scenario. And if you're gonna rebut by saying that all the goods will be made out of leisure and altruism I'll have to ask how many people you're gonna kill so that it'll be sustainable

>>51095293
So, sectarians.
Socialist system prided itself on being "scientific". In fact, it was not )))
It was mired in dogmatism, and in truly scholastic tradition any solution to current issues must have been delivered from the Holy Bible, that is classics (Marx, Lenin and the rest which were not many). So alternatives to winning chosen solution to current problem became not just that - they became heresies, deviations from the correct party course and in the end punishable. Results of apparatus games and under the rug maneuvers became enshrined and added to canon as decisions of the Party Conferences.
And so, judging things by their results was put aside (it is not really possible to truly throw it out). Trial and error, which in fact IS a scientific method - a taboo. The only safe move - continuation of current policies, staying orthodox. Go to solution for all arising problems - witch hunts for saboteurs

But what about Perestroika, one would ask?..

>>51095490
And receive an answer from someone else
Sorry for off topic
Got to sleep

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>>51082947

>>51096328
This man obviously has no clue how much rednecks hate niggers.

>>51096397
Comissar Jamal and comissar Cletus forcing middle class Marxist hipsters to share their home still paints a really funny scene.

>>51092482
Socialism/communism larping is the popular mainstream bro. Shitting on it is contrarian.

Consider that the government will do absolutely nothing if you make long effortposts about gommunism on your Facebook. The ideology is not viewed as a threat because they know it fails.

Now, try copypasting a /pol/ thread to your Facebook wall (especially in Germany) and see what actually being "contrarian" can bring.

>>51096632
A scene? Man you could make a low budget sit-com out of it!

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>>51096878
>Now, try copypasting a /pol/ thread to your Facebook wall (especially in Germany) and see what actually being "contrarian" can bring.
Yes, being a Nazi gets you into trouble, that is good. Now take it back to /pol/ you subhuman nazi scum. Unless you're talking about a Racial Holy War game, your kind doesn't belong here.

>>51096963
>LARPing as a rebel while comfortably sitting in the mainstream
>Considers himself to better than anyone

I'd save a furry from a burning building before you.

>>51097073
What if you have to choose between >>51096963, a nigger and a kike?

>>51097123
The nigger. For all their faults at least they don't pretend to be someone they are not.

tl;dr - gas the suburban white people who want to seem "supermoral" to their friends by being "deeply concerned about poor oppressed brownie" (while living in all-white gated communities) and society will be fixed.

>>51076000
Story behind the image?

>>51097123
Always kill a traitor before an enemy.

>>51097362
>>51097320
>butthurt commie

>>51097402
>butthurt commie

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>>51097375
Commies and Nazis both need to go to their containment board, because garbage threads like these were literally the reason /pol/ was made.

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>>51097073
You don't like furries that makes me....

Furrious

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>>51097426

>"communism is bad" is an immensely controversial statement that will turn any thread into a flamewar

Meanwhile if one person utters one word that even sounds like it might be a defense of Fascism, everyone starts throwing a tantrum about the evil /pol/ boogeyman invading their safe space.

Just delete this miserable thread.

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>>51097487

>>51097326
The story is literally in the image. Some guildee forgot to pay his rental fee, causing some choice real estate to become purchasable. Multiple guilds swarmed to try to claim the sector

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>>51097457
Go home Nazi, unless you have something /tg/ related to contribute. Hell, all you really have to do is change a few words in your stormfag copypasta rhetoric, and it's a 40k fluff thread, is that so hard to do?

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>>51097622
>butthurt leftist

>>51097597
Well, was that real money or are those space dollars? I never played it but I've seen some of those ships and unless a space dollar is worth a lot, then even simple repairs to a large capital ship could easily run $300,000.

>>51097541
>Brad Pitt is getting pumped dry of everything he has earned in his life in some court SJW showtrial of divorce
>His wife has proclaimed in public, that she hates their biological daughter and loves the adopted brown pets so much more.

I feel happy thinking how bitter all those Hollywood propaganda movies feel to him now.

>>51089855
At least imperialists could feed their people. Thats what I hate about you communoboos.
>Communism may have had problems but they meant well and it was way better than what came before it

A group of people with no idea how to effectively feed and cloth their country men has no business staging a violent revolution and taking control.

>>51097661
Space dollars.
But there's an ISK/real money exchange rate based on the price of an item that gives 30 days of playtime, which is bought with real money from CCP, and then you can sell it in game for space dollars.
The item currently costs 20€ and sells for 1 billion ISK.

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have you found a way to make this /tg/ related yet?

>>51082947

>Imperialist science deniers deny science!

How's Lysenkoism turning out for you, Ivan? Managed to get wheat to grow in winter yet?

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>>51097723

>>51097700
>Post image from a show written by John Milius
>The man blacklisted from Hollywood for being /pol/

Gommunist coherence as usual

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Fuck politics, honestly.

Why can't we all just agree to masterbate when we are along, play tabletop games with our friends and all be friends and shit?

Why is the world like this Anons?

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>>51097783
Because people feel the need to take sides and defend that side to the death, even if what they're fighting for is literally Coke vs Pepsi.

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>>51097783

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>>51097773
>Thinks arguing semantics makes him less of a redneck subhuman.

>>51089930
>Confusing colonialism with modern capitalism in the battle of ideologies that defined the 20th century

Wew you'd get sent to the gulags for that kind of stupidity in your socialist utopia.

>>51097783
Because the people in this thread.

While you try to enjoy life without bothering others, the likes of the autists you see in this thread work day and night to grab hold of any bit of power available and use it enforce their "vision" on others.

To prevent this you must always stay vigilant against these maniacs. Don't vote for the power hungry harpie in student council elections regardless what she promises. Vote for the stoner who is just there for fun.

>>51091637
But then why should I give my best? Who will decide that who goes to gulag? If my best is not enough for him, will I be sent to the gulag, not regarding that I did what I can?

Communism works only, if every person is good with another, but with that condition, capitalism would be as good.

>>51097735
That puts a single ISK at 0.00000002€. Rip capsuleers.

>>51082947
kill yourself

>>51083176
Isn't state capitalism something communists essentially made up so as to deflect criticism away from the fact that their crappy ideology always ends up bringing about totalitarian dictatorships?

>>51067235
Have a character with the highest Dex mod (and a cleric to assist) slight of hand that shit. Let the dice decide instead of bickering with someone who's irrational.

>>51096328
As much as I like the post, the food part triggers me.
>>51096397
Less then you'd think. I've known a lot of racists with black friends. If you ask them about it they say stuff like "yeah, but he's the good kind". It's now about needing a nebulous other to blame and hate.

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Think about how you would react if someone was doing this to you in real life.

I would PK her.

>>51067235
Oh my type of Communism was tried, many times, and worked... until Democracy hating tards didn't like that the democratically elected president wasn't a laissez-faire capitalist, so they would fund a coup to place a fascist dictator in power instead.

The US did seem to enjoy propping up fascist regimes.

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>>51098412
But would you DPRK her?

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>>51082947

Sure is lefty in this thread. Time to start the helicopters.

>>51098693
>My system of government works, as long as there are no external pressures!
>But if there are the government-run economy shits itself so hard that it turns into a diarrhea-powered rocket headed straight for the gates of hell

>>51083675
Because academics are arrogant assholes who figure their marxist utopia would be run by the intellectual elite.

In short, they're another brand of authoritarian and you're another brand of greedy fucking faggot.

>>51099921
Lenin's proposal for an intellectual vanguard (whose ultimate goal would render it redundant anyway) is one of the ideas most argued about in marxist circles.

Which marxist critics have you read btw? I recommend Adorno, who addresses exactly the issue of trying to approach and describe a totalising system (ie capitalism) without that descriptive theory itself become totalising and dominant (although it's a paradox he can't fully escape from).

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>>51100143
>leftists want people to accept their ideology
>constantly joke about mass murdering people who dissent

Ah yes good strategy!

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Stat me /tg/ *sniff*

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This thread is really shit already, but there's some points I'm going to address anyway.

>All of higher learning is marxist!

Not really true, actually. A lot of sociology uses marxist theory because Marx wrote some of the founding texts of the science, but Economics is firmly in New Keynesian and New Classical schools of thought.

Economics is most likely the most scientifically rigorous of the social sciences, so I tend to trust it in a lot of contexts. Marx was right when he talked about how societies can form and certain types of social interactions, but his proposed solutions to economic inequality fall apart under scrutiny.

The LTV, for example, is a complete sham which is utterly destroyed by marginalism.

>Unironic Anarcho-capitalists

Market failures do exist, and you need somebody to prevent them. Anarcho-capitalism is great in a perfect world where everybody is in perfect competition and nobody ever has market power, but we don't live in this fantasy land!

>If everything's free shit will still work!

Look, a market is a great way of determining how much of a good to make. If everything is free you run into issues quickly.

First, there's certain things that nobody likes to do, like cleaning a septic tank. We incentivize this work, when it needs to be done, by paying people. They don't want to clean it, but they get paid enough that the utility the money provides outweighs the dis-utility the job inflicts. Without money, nobody would do certain jobs.

You also run into the issue of pricing goods. Let's say that there's a limited quantity of cheese in the world, and both me and paul want it. Without a pricing mechanism, who gets it just depends on who gets there first. This is bad, because Paul only likes cheese a little, and I fucking love it.

If there were prices, the price of cheese would go up, until eventually Paul is priced out, while I still get the cheese. Since I get more enjoyment out of cheese, this is an optimal situation.

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>>51100847

>Marxism is DA JEWS

Communists kill a fuckload of jews, look at Stalin. Most of the people who work in mainstream economics are Jewish, and they're certainly not socialists. Take your nazi shit and fuck off.

>>51067679
Holy cow this commie got triggered hard.

>>51069289
>the russian monarchy was still in control of russia when the bolsheviks seized control
>mao and his red army actually fought the japanese to any significant degree
lol

>>51082947
0/10
Too obvious

>>51089930
>what is everything bad that ever happened that can't be directly attributed to commies
FTFY

If you want to shock your parents so bad with your edgy political beliefs why don't you just cut the crap and go full nazi? Or anarchist? Why are you such a fucking pussy that you have to go half way? I've always been mystified by that.

>>51093516
So you're saying that want to murder them for holding the wrong political beliefs? Do you understand what the term "projection" means or do you just automatically use that word whenever you perceive someone as having insulted you? Did you actually read the post you're replying to?

Jesus christ.

>>51082947

Capitalism may not be perfect but it works.

Communism can suck a cock.

>>51094191
In ideal capitalism, there's no state constantly interfering in the free conduct of trade. Therefore by your same logic all the examples people love to use of how capitalism is just as bad (slavery, colonialism, the world wars etc.) no longer apply. They weren't capitalism they were just trying to achieve capitalism, therefore it's a nil all draw for both sides.

>>51096963
>Yes, being a Nazi gets you into trouble, that is good.
But why doesn't being a commie? You completely missed their point.

>>51097462
Apparently it's the people who take issue with a horrific ideology that killed millions of people who are /pol/ now, how strange.

>>51096963
>>51097541
>re-using the same image in a thread
Good god you're embarrassing.

>>51101974
If there's no state interfering with free trade, why does slavery no longer apply?

how is this still a thread?

If you haven't noticed this is in-fact /tg/ and not /pol/

>>51101974
>In ideal capitalism...
And you are officially just as idealistic and unrealistic as the people who claim that true communism has never been tried. Similarly, and much more importantly, none of this is even /tg/ tengential, much less /tg/ related. Maybe in an alpha centauri-thread, a racial-holy-war thread, even a worldbuilding thread about modern settings, but this is literally just a /pol/ thread.

>>51102093
Because the state has to make a special exception for certain people who can be bought/sold/abused/killed/imprisoned/castrated without legal recourse in order for the entire system to work, are you really going to claim that there could possibly be a governmental system in the real world where you're allowed to just treat anybody like a slave? Slavery can't exist without such horrific treatment, and in any society with a government (ie all of them) that would require the government's complicity.

>>51102148
That was sort of the point of my entire post you fucking idiot. Just as the commies claim all the failed commie regimes were just trying to achieve communism and weren't actually it every capitalist can claim that all the failed capitalist regimes weren't really capitalist and just trying to achieve it, it makes exactly as much sense. Historical capitalist governments have been about as far from pure capitalism as historical communist governments have been from pure communism, it's the exact same issue.

> Similarly, and much more importantly, none of this is even /tg/ tengential, much less /tg/ related. Maybe in an alpha centauri-thread, a racial-holy-war thread, even a worldbuilding thread about modern settings, but this is literally just a /pol/ thread.
Weird how you'd say this immediately after contributing to said off-topic discussion that you apparently don't want here.

>>51102201
>Slavery can't exist without such horrific treatment
Roman slavery wasn't so bad. Only the popularised and demonised chattel slavery is this "atrocious".

You're not all equally stupid, because that's false equivalency/false-binary, but you're all stupid, now get out of /tg/ or start talking about a game.

>>51100640
Said idiot who constantly jokes about helicopters

>>51097702
>At least imperialists could feed their people
You mean Russian imperialists? They were happy to export grain during famines, in fact Russian Empire was the main exporter despite situation in the country and most of the country was uneducated peasants.
>group of people with no idea how to effectively feed and cloth their country
See, exactly what you said

>>51067235
Have you tried just talking with the player about it?

>Come into thread expecting nice That Guy stories
>All of this shitflinging

>>51102253
It really depended on what type of slave you were in Rome.

>>51069289
>That last one.
I mean fuck you , they hid in the mountains then attacked us post serious occupation and we withdrew to Taiwan but OK.

>>51067235
That's just a player being a jerk. Work it out like adults.
Oh, and the player willing to do the loot paperwork without being a dick about it is a fucking treasure. Get their favorite snacks and make sure their character gets goodies.

>>51097927
Communism never was about being super productive and giving it your best, unless you wanted to get a medal. The important thing is that everyone was doing some kind of work, productive or not, and making a basic living off it.

To pay everyone distributing toilet paper in public toilets, the Soviets had to rob every satellite state until nothing was left, but those who are dirt poor now were much better off back then. Why do you think Putin is popular?

>>51088405
>dm asking who wants to take this
I find it strange that other parties don't discuss it between themselves who gets/needs what from the loot.

I've never had a dm ask that before.

>>51097848
At least he has a giant cock.

>>51106180
Hundred Regiments Offensive, guerrilla warfare mate.