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MTG Spoilers thread. No Bolas Planeswalker this set? What gives?

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MTG Spoilers thread. No Bolas Planeswalker this set? What gives? I feel even if they release one next set it's kind of lame.

Also general spoiler thread.
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>>51063963
I feel like the mechanics of this card tied to fluff might be foreshadowing of

>someone (probably important) is going to die
>the planar bridge gets fukt
>Bolas shows up pissed at Tezzeret
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>>51063963
I thought Bolas was confirmed for Amonkhet?
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>>51055106
>2-4x Mechanized production (targeting clues)
Yo, buddy. What you target and what you have 8 of are unrelated.

Magnifying Glass might be worth a look.
It's a relevant mana rock and a decent copy target.

Also, all the good Investigate pumps want green.
>Ongoing Investigation
>Tireless Tracker
>Ulvenwald Mysteries
>Confront the Unknown

>>51063963
>Spoiler Thread
>Spoiler
Haven't really been keeping up.
Thought we had the full spoiler by now?
What's left to discuss. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Whoops. Meant for >>51063989
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>>51063963
If you've been paying close attention you would have noticed earlier, because WotC or WotC staff said that there were 2 planeswalkers in Aether Revolt (or 4 if you count the duel deck planeswalkers as different). That combined with Tezzeret and Ajani of heroes being spoiled eliminates the possibility of Bolas getting printed.

>>51063963
>>51064483
Bolas is literally THE guy in charge of the plane of the next block. Between Dark Intimations and that fact, I'm confident we'll see him in the next block.
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>>51066376
yeah, bolas will come in, kill jace, kill gideon, fuck chandra and liliana, make nissa a nazi again, and then fuck chandra and lili again, killing the gatewatch, allying with Phyrexia again, to bring back Yawgmoth and Urza, and FINALLY
MAKE
MAGIC
GREAT
AGAIN
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Can you guys fucking believe this?
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>>51066567
Come on gatewatch isn't that bad
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>>51066567
WotC has a policy of bringing back characters that died on stage. I think they explicitly said Yawgmoth is never coming back.
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>>51063963
You are legitimately fucking stupid
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>>51066590
Yes. There is an infinite 2 card combo that wins the game if it isn't disrupted.
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>>51066727
idk both of them seem pretty overrated
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>>51066727
>2 card
Thought it was 3 cards. Is there a new combo?
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>>51066798
see >>51057299
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This is the worst set in MTG I have ever seen, and I've been playing a long time.

WotC will not be getting my money this set, and I predict that they are going to lose a lot of money if they keep thinking they can reprint watered down versions of everything and keep making cards worse and worse. I feel like the game is slowly being dumbed down.
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>>51066996
???
I like a lot of the new cards, anon. Maybe that's because I'm a shitter who plays standard and commander exclusively.
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>>51067522
More respectable than me, I'm a Limited fag.
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>>51066996
You're retarded. This is the strongest set since DTK.
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>>51067749
Limited is fun, too! I just don't play as often. I was actually kind of depressed when I missed KLD prerelease.
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huh, the rhino turned into an elephant
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>>51066590
the lesson here is: If you see a Planeswalker at ~$5 buy a playset
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>>51068065
Unless they're named Dovin Baan.
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>>51066996
ehhhh... i actually like a fair number of cards. Q_Q
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>>51068045
um wot
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>almost sold off my Saheeli for $4 when I pulled her because LOL 3 MANA PLAINSWALKER
>figure I'd keep her in case any meme decks arose
Holy shit.
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>>51066996
>reprint watered down versions of everything and keep making cards worse and worse
They quite literally printed what might be the best counterspell ever in this set.
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>>51068972
>They quite literally printed what might be the best counterspell ever in this set.
Mana Drain is in the set?
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>>51070914
Maybe he meant best cancel variant.
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This is seriously one of the strongest sets I seen in a while, literally every color(minus red since they stopped reprinting lightning bolt of course) got a lot of goodies, plus a couple of the goodies are colorless, which basically means like smug copter and hangarback before that, will be used in all colors of decks that would want that card. I am building the shit out of Jund once I'm finished reuniting kids with their families in about a month.
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>there's a possibility someone could disallow an aetherflux reservoir activation
delicious
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>>51068734
This card have so much meme potential.

>the hype train have no break
>fuck railroading
>knock knock motherfucker
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Anything cool at common? Always on the lookout for UW tron stuff.
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>>51063963
>I'm too fucking stupid to understand foreshadowing

Gee, anon, why would you search your library for a Bolas card in the set where we open a planar portal to a world where Bolas' evil is law?
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>>51066727
Splinter-Erxarch was Standard legal and didn't do shit.
This one is worse for the simple fact that neither piece has flash.
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>>51068972
I feel the set isn't really that good and they aren't really trying to up the power level of standard, they just din't think a reworked Morbid would be so powerful and interesting as it turns out to be.

Until proven wrong. I expect more +1/+1 counters and shittier Sunburst variants in Amonkhet.
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>>51070914
Thats not objectively force of will. No other card says pay 2 cards and 1 life, unlose the game.
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>>51076577
to be fair, splinter exarch was in the same standard as caw-blade

I hope you're right though. I sold my saheelis for $5 a piece
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So what do we think of that w/b enchantment that makes token if you trigger revolt. I've been playing around a list and it's been real. Using the aethor born from kaladesh that sacs artifacts and yahenni males for a fun "combo". Srams expertise is really good.

I like the deck I just finding it hard trimming the fat. How much removal does a deck in standard need if it's going for a midrange plan?
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>>51077199
>to be fair, splinter exarch was in the same standard as caw-blade
For all of one week. I don't think it made a huge splash after that, the only tools it had to protect itself were Mana Leak and Apostles Blessing. Additionally, with no redundancy through Kiki-Jiki and Memoricide being a sideboard card, from what I remember, it didn't really go anywhere.
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>>51065694
Really want to put one of these on a sphere of resistance in Commander. But that would require playing a shitty format.
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>>51068734
>Rules and rails are made to be broken.
God it's so stupid, I love it
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>>51068734
>Crew 1
Is there some magic reason this couldn't be Crew 0?
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>>51081390
they expect one of us in the wreckage
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>>51064257
It will either be
>Chandra's mom
>gay granny
>tezzeret (semi likely)
>dovin baan (most likely)
>gay aetherborne
>gonti
>rashmi
>rashmi's assistant
>some garbage story character like shadowblayde (i want shadowblayde to bite the dust)

No jacetice league walkers will die or leave. Too important for marketing.
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>>51081684
>No jacetice league walkers will [...] leave.
I guarantee you this will happen within 10 blocks.
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>>51081506
Underrated post
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>>51081506
fucking top kek
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>>51066996
this is simply not true
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>>51068065
>>51068070
>buy ~$5 walkers
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>>51081684
Chandra's mom isn't going to make it. it was obvious as soon as she was spoiled.
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I just got offered a playset of Baral for $18. Go for it?
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>gameday playmat is of Ajani
>KLD's gameday mat was of Nissa
>Both have fucking nothing to do with Kaladesh and are foreigners to the plane
>Both are relatively completely uninvolved with what's going on, only helping because Chandra's home.
I simply do not understand.
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>>51065694
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>>51084764
I only do preleases but I have opened 7 planeswalker cards. 4 Chandras (various including 2 flip) and 3 Kiora.
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Is Aetherborn Aristocrats going to be a thing guys? Seems kind of fun might build it if my deck doesn't pan out
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>>51085432
Merchant's Dockhand and Metallic Rebuke are no brainers.
Whir of Invention could fetch Crackdown Construct, but honestly that's pretty meh.
You'd pretty much always cast Reverse Engineer for UU, but with all those clues it might not be worth the deck space.
Manabase is kinda stretched, but B for Battle at the Bridge is worth nogging over. And don't forget, Push is new meme.
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>>51085432
>>51085781
Paradox Engine + Inspiring Statuary seems a bit shit. Neat tho.
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So how viable would (removal) control be in this standard?
That blue expertise is quite nice.
First time that I've ever wanted to build a control deck, just to fuck with all these combos.
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>>51086373
Very.

The sets no Pauper,
but there's only great removal
and only awful creatures.
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My favourite spoiler for AER is Alley Strangler to provide another 3-drop for my Shady Person Waiting Around A Corner Watch Out! Kaladesh block tribal deck
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First set Ive been interested in awhile. Lots of possibility for broken cards/combos due to "free shit". Might buy a box. Much more fun looking than kaledesh.
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>>51087529
holy shit they weren't kidding about the new art director being a control freak. I look forward to five more black rogues in Amonkhet peeking around corners to show how sneaky they are. Hopefully one of them is named Lawless Back-Alley Lookout
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>>51085340
Ajani has been helping widow grandma before Chandra got there.
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>>51087529
alley strangler's art is so ridiculous. Is that assassin planning on strangling the guy right there? It's full of people
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>>51063963
Reminder that they did this with Eye of Ugin and probably other stuff too. I think Eldrazi Temple too
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>>51081684
>Missing the opportunity to say Gaytherborne
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>>51066567
I want to see the other elder dragons come back
just for them to show up on amonkhet and go
>Bolas. Literally what the fuck bro.
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>>51088201
When did the control freak art director get hired?
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>>51091630
>>51088201
I don't think he's too bad. I mean the guy graduated summa cum laude from Pratt

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Jeremy_Jarvis
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>No standard thread
So what's /tg/'s plan during the combo apocalypse

Sideboard:
4x shock
4x dispel
4x natural state
3x horribly awry
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>>51093260
it feels like it needs three fevered visions, maybe instead of the artifact
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>>51093260
I don't understand the purpose of Baral there. Half the instants and sorceries cost 1 and there are no counterspells. Are there supposed to be more toys for him in the sideboard, or is reducing the cost of expertises and larger than life really worth the slot?
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>>51093260
>Sideboard:
>3x fevered visions
>2x hope for giraphur
>2x horribly awry
>3x negate
>3x shock
>2x natural state
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>>51093374
Baral makes 10 cards on the mainboard cheaper
and assuming this guy's sideboard
>>51093419
another five, and arguments can be had about shock
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Can I 50 my opponent using Aetherflux Reservoir with this thing in play and just win?
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>>51093495
you can't pay more than you have. magic doesn't often work on credit.
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>>51063963
>WE'RE CHANGING BLOCKS TO BE 2 SETS BECAUSE 3 SETS DRAGS THE STORY OUT TOO MUCH
>OK NOW WE'RE GOING TO DRAG A BLOCK'S STORY OUT OVER 3 SETS
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>>51093510
Where are the Orzhov when you need them?
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>>51075787
Bolas is Aku?
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>>51093561
Winning the game with extort before the aetherflux resiviour goes off.
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>>51093493
change the shocks to incendiary flow
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>>51081684
>Aetherborne are literally genderless mana constructs.
>WotC goes all out on how the race is 'nonbinary' (when what they actually mean is Agendered but whatever)
>This one is gay though
LITERALLY HOW
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>>51096095
Magic writing is shit, this is a well established fact.
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>>51081684
No one will die, and Dovin and Tess will escape. Stupid gay happy ending and the gaywatch heads to Egyptworld to fight Bolos.
>>51096095
Fucking SJW, never cater to them, when you do everyone loses.
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>>51085432
One day we'll have a full on /m/ set brother
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>>51092986
they've had 2 new ADs since
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Just spent $100 on singles. Not sure how I feel. Better than buying a box, I guess, and I damn near have a complete deck, but it feels empty somehow.
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>>51099901

Once you play with those puppies you'll feel better

Unless they suck, then you'll feel regret
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>>51099965
Everything but the real estate for Esper Control with Yaheeni's Expertise to cheat in Saheeli Rai for the combo win if I need it, Torrential Gearhulks if I can't.
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>>51066567
>going full rape kill rape
>being this much of a fucking teenager

Way to go making it abundantly clear that you probably weren't even alive when Urza was the focus of the story
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>>51066567
Magic writing has always been pulp-tier schlock by hack writers. It was never great.
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>>51084856
Yes
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>>51090665
Not to mention that he's full on glowing.
It's like trying to mug someone covered in glowsticks
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>>51099901

You made the right move anon. I've been doing this for the past year instead of boxes and hot damn has it worked out way better. I hate having to try and beg for standard staples by shoving my trade binder at people.
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>>51099901
what ones did you get?

I feel like the meta is too open to actually try and pick out the singles that are going to be playable

obviously some are really safe, like Fatal Push, but others I feel are more of a gambal and aren't sure fire things.

Interested on hearing what you were willing to pick up
also to anyone else if you were gonna spend $100 on singles what ones would you make sure to get?
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looking at brewing aetherborn memes, but undecided on going sultai or if two colors would be best
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>>51101577
can you deck beat a turn 4 or 5 instant win? I hope so.
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>>51102184
>Implying Jeskai Cat combo will actually be relevant
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>>51093495
If you are at exactly 50, then yes.
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>>51081684
I'm not really following the plot right now, but please tell me "Shadowblayde" isn't really a character. Please?
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>>51102529
>Seems hard to get around.
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>>51102724
"Shadowblayde" is a codename a character picked out for themselves, and it's commented on in story. It's an intentional, self-aware jab at that sort of character. The writing is still shit, though.
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>>51102783
If you play Saheeli on turn 3, she will be at 1 loyalty on turn 4 because of your opponent's copter. If you play the cat on turn 4, waiting until turn 5 to cast Saheeli, your opponent will know what you're setting up and have an extra turn to respond, either killing the cat or holding up a counter for Saheeli. Or, just put you to 0 life before turn 5.
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>>51102867
>Playing removal colors
>Assuming the copter stuck
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>>51101258
Yaheeni's Expertise, Push, two blue Gearhulk, two Saheeli Rai, three Aetherborn Roc, Disallow, and I speculated on some Cryptolith Rites. Worst case scenario, I'll try U/G Metallurgic Rites with them if the price doesn't go up.
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Pre ordered a set of big butt copters, combo cat, and a set of energy bobs.
>5$
I'm happy either way
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>>51081684
>>51096095
>>51096579
>>51096230
Easy: There is NO gay aetherborn, but but since this meme gets spouted to rile up fucks like >>51096579 it gets repeated anyway
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>>51103227
Gay here meaning "representative of stereotypical queer club culture." The Aetherborn in question may not be a literal homosexual, but is still a flaming queen.
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>>51085844
Oh hello there, new Breya tech.
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>>51102867
If Saheeli goes to 1 after turn 3, you just play cat on turn 4, flicker Saheeli, and proceed with the combo.
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>>51081506
5 star post nigga
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>>51093260
>26 lands

What the fuck anon?
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Wait a second
Where are the chase mythics the power is really spread out this set.
I'm scared is it possible that magic will be good again
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>>51093495
I am pretty sure you need to auctualy have 50 to pay.
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>>51105085
Herald of Anguish
Heart of Kiran
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>>51105112
At least those have mechanics that "justify" the rarity

I really think the heart is a mistake its op in modern because of the variety of planeswalkers and its op in standard because gideon.
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>>51105112
What deck is going to want Herald of Anguish? I'm not sold on it making Colossus decent.
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>>51105112
Heart is Kiran is not a chase Mythic, it slots into a very specific type of deck (Superfriends), unlike Avacyn and Gideon which slot into any deck playing White.

Herald of Anguish might be good? I hope so I love that art.
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>>51105228
Heart of Kiran slots perfectly into UR burn.
>heart
>saheli, crew and copy swing 8 turn 3
>only 12 life to go
>shock reprint
>all these burn spells
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>>51105412

Okay you copied a legendary, so you lose one. The one you copied also has no one to crew it since you burned through all of Saheeli's loyalty.
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>>51105412
>Crew and copy swing for 8
Doesn't work like that. First off, Heart is Legendary, so no matter what, you only get to keep one. Second, and this is from the official rulings "The token copies exactly what was printed on the original permanent and nothing else (unless that permanent is copying something else or is a token; see below). It doesn’t copy whether that permanent is tapped or untapped, whether it has any counters on it or Auras and Equipment attached to it, or any non-copy effects that have changed its power, toughness, types, color, or so on." Ergo, the token would just be an artifact, not a creature on entering, though it would still have haste. So depending on whether you keep your actual Heart of Kiran, or the token, you have either wasted an entire turn not developing board presence and getting in for 4,or you have tapped out, sacrificed your legendary vehicle, and lose your token at end of turn after not being able to crew it.
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>Play Fourth Bridge Prowler
>Have it kill itself
>Kaladesh revolts because the consulate failed to make there bridges safe
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bw-combotokens/

Guys. Fancy help me with fine tuning this list. The idea is to get the WB enchantment down with a number of artifacts or enablers and keep making a group of 1/1s each turn while holding up removal. I know it's not terribly competitive but I would like to make it more efficient. I have an idea using that mimic and naming servo tokens? What do you guys think? The servos come in with +1+1 counters and it activates another artifact that can make tokens for me.

Cheers for any feedback brothers.
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>everyone is so scared of "combos"
>yet the only combo worth mentioning is Sahilli, and even that gets shut down so easy
Wow I'm sure these 3+ card combos and turn 8 wins are going to make waves in standard!
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I'm gonna do it /tg/ i'm gonna play mono blue
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You can remove things and the-

Oh right. That's it.
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>>51105834
Saheeli isn't a 3+ card combo and turn 8 win
It's a very resilient combo that can win quickly. There's reason to be concerned
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>>51105085
Year of trump, of course things will be great again, that includes magic!
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>>51105834
Literally two of the combos are two card combos, and that includes saheeli, like do you even know what you're talking about?
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>>51066590
This is what happens when you don't print enough planeswalker removal. They're so fucking hard to get off the board right now, and of course superfriends is an actual deck now. We need to go back to Theros.
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>>51109072
Are ruinous path and anguished unmaking suddenly unplayable?
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>>51099901
>Just spent $100 on singles
>standardpoorfags
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>>51109199
In some (shitty) formats, yes.

Most of the magic I play is in Magic Duels, which just happens to be like a gimped version of Frontier, only with rarity restrictions. Even with only one planeswalker of each kind in a deck, superfriends is still a viable deck due to the fact that there's only like two noncreature cards total that can interact with them.
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>>51081506
kek
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>>51109199
To be fair if they have felidar before they play there saheeli due to raisins, then ruinous path does not stop the combo, and as for super friends in general, ur instant speed creature removal isn't kind of moot when u have to wait til ur turn to actually remove the threat, plus anguished sometimes puts u in the danger zone, so it's not always a safe bet, especially when were talking ur combo, with potential to be burned out...Sort of.
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Who is as excited as me to see Renegade Freighter 2.0 come along and fuck up limited once more?

Thank fuck Wizards at least had the sense not to make it a common.
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Who else is ready to force emerge with that new pseudo-cascading 4 drop?
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>>51105964
you say that like it's not a threat
>no mana base shenanigans
>two obvious creatures and a few spicy enablers
>reality smashers still exist
>everything is counter spell
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>>51066590

>Speculators speculating on a worthless mythic
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>>51108924
Literally wrong. The others need a shitload of support.

>>51108561
Did you not read my entire post?
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>>51066376
>confident

What did he mean by this?
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>>51068070
>Unless they're named Dovin Baan.
Except prior to a few weeks ago, people said the same thing about a card called Saheeli Rai.
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>>51110223
Do all the animal themed trains combine into a giant mega mecha train?
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>tfw Copter, Emrakul, and Reflector banned
HOLY SHIT
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>>51113786
What a shitty ban list.
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>>51114590
t. standard cuck
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>>51063963
Wait, did they word this wrong?
> When you cast ... exile Dark Intimations from your graveyard.
> That planeswalker enters the battlefield with ...

Not "IF YOU DO, that planeswalker enters the battlefield with ..."
Which would mean that the last part takes effect no matter if you exiled it from your graveyard or not, right?
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>>51105964
Hard part is choosing what creatures to play
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>>51110223
Im still mad vehicles do not get creature subtypes
Auctual train tribal would be amazing
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>>51114647
>playing standard in 2017

That shitshow of a banlist was a result of not having good answers in the format, butthurt about how smug copter was shitting all over their super duper special planeswalker cards, and how an uncommon wrong touched standard players.
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I just realised the red implement may auctualy see play
Not for attacking your opponent but for planeswalkers
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>>51116332

Ready for more planeswalker mythic goodnes? Buy more packs.
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>>51116781
At least the power is otherwise spread around the set
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>>51063963
What if they just reprint the first bolas
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>>51091381
They're dead, Jim.
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>>51117173
Wouldn't even be upset.
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>>51117173
>>51118088
I'm ok with it but only with new art
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>>51085844
This seems very disgusting in combination with Doubling Cube. Three piece combos are hard to get out but play a spell +1 extra mana = double remaining mana...
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>>51114685
>Which would mean that the last part takes effect no matter if you exiled it from your graveyard or not, right?
yes.
but you don't get the choice of exiling it or not it's a must deal
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>>51118036
ugin was dead, but that didn't stop him
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>>51087529
So this dude >>51105753 is too off-theme?

>>51112225
>The others need a shitload of support.
Crackdown Construct + Wandering Furmarole
Going off on turn 5 is a bummer, but what support does that need?

>>51118841
>Doubling Cube
You're thinking too big.
Any mana rock/dork lets you keep going.
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>>51121490
If you can accelerate Crackdown Construct out a little bit, Prophetic Ravings should help. Also, isn't there a creature that lets you pay E to give something haste?
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>>51121721
Spontaneous Artist! That was it. Too bad it costs 4 mana too. MaRo may hate mana dorks, but we've still got Cultivator's Caravan and Beastcaller Savant. Also, Vessel of Volatility.

Oh, and there's also Forerunner of Slaughter and Expedite as haste enablers. Or Goblin War Paint, but that's 2 mana and kinda meh.
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>>51121721
The issue isn't Crackdown, it's Furmarole.
You need 4 mana to animate Furmarole, and you need to do that the turn you attack.
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>>51063963
I predict there's going to be another Bolas walker in the next block, since Amonkhet is canonically ruled by Bolas.
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>>51110223
Wow, for days I thought it was unAEthered Express...but for the first time realized it's unTETHered.
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>>51093495
Magic made a mistake when the designers decided to use life as a resource but didn't make life tokens or counters....
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>>51121953
you lie
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>>51122111
Prove it
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>>51117173
Would be pretty neat
The timeframes he works in mean he does not need to have changed since then.
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>>51105753
I do wonder how often that will happen
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>>51121490
>but what support does that need?
Slip through space
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>>51121870
Shit, right. Forgot about that part. I guess Saheeli Twin is just the strictly quicker combo, with less removal. If Wizards had given us our player burn back, this would never have happened.
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>>51102529

I don't even think they will ban this. It's been awhile since we've had a turn 4 combo in standard. Jeskai supports counterspells and protection. Might end up being a grindy deck that controls and wins with the combo late game.

Without Emrakul and Copter in over half the deck I'm interested to see where STandard goes. I usually just play sealed pre release and ignore fnm but I might actually get into the format now that the feel bad god is gone.
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>>51102783

The combo is good but easily disruptable. It's a good thing for standard. Better than fighting emrakul anyway. Copter didn't feel that scary but if it is in 60 percent of decks I get why they banned it.
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>>51105085

Artifact heavy, combo heavy, mechanics like energy that might not return. Bans in standard.

This kind of reminds me of mirrodin.
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Palladium Myr
Silver Myr
Isochron Scepter
Dramatic Reversal
Inspiring Statuary
Paradox Engine
The new blue tinker dudes
Muddle the Mixture
Blue Sun's Zenith

is there a modern meme deck there?
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>>51105817

With Coptor banned, maybe put that aetherborn nighthawk thing in. Syndicate Trafficker as a 4 of might be too many. Kind of like Scavenging Ooze where they end up eating eachother's food.

Maybe go down to 2?

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-50-14-tix-standard-wb-fabricate

This list reminds me of yours but it has a nice late game that burns people out.
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>>51105834

Theres several combos in the format right now. Turn 4 comboes in standard isn't anything new. The bans helped the format find some variety I think. I agree with you that Saheeli is easily disruptable and a successful deck will be more like 3 color control with a combo happening to be in there instead of all in. All in and this thing would be toast. Shock by Saheeli.
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>>51110223

I really can't wait to play this in limited.

I kind of hope energy never comes back like Infect or phyrexian mana but they keep using Vehicles like equipment forever.

God Kaladesh is Mirrodin isn't it?
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>>51116332

Exactly this.

No good graveyard hate and Copter not being a 3/2 or a 3/1 caused Emrakul and Copter to be in almost every standard deck. I think they learned their lessons from Rhino standard.

I think UW Flash will still be a thing. GB delirium will be up there. RB or Mardu Vehicles. GR or Temur energy will still be a thing. Saheeli Jeskai combo and Artifact Combo will be around.

Honestly 4 or 5 viable decks instead of 3 is nice for Standard.
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>>51117173

I think it would be nice to see a 5 or 6 drop version.

+1: Destroy target nonblack creature.
-2: Put a 3/2 red Dragon with first strike and flying into play.
-8: Bolas, The Meme deals 5 damage to target player then that player discards 2 cards and sacrifices 2 permanents.
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>>51102867

>because of your opponent's copter

Jesus Christ mate, will you TRY to keep up?
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>>51127368
>implying the decks STILL won't be shit
Mark my words, we'll be seeing the rise of superfriends soon enough. Also, Arlinn Kord in Construct combo is probably gonna be a thing if it can +1 to accelerate the Construct beatdown. It'll be a t6 win without any ramping, but completely self-contained (especially given that there's no real player-targeted burn to kill her).
>t4 Arlinn
>t5 Construct holding up G for Blossoming Defense
>t6 Fumarole, activate, win
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>>51127051
You don't need to dedicate as much deck space to the Crackdown combo though.
You were going to run duals either way.
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>>51121953

Won't happen until Hour of Devestation though if this "placeholder" packaging is anything to go by.
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>>51103273
Do you think that culture is directly caused by what they want to put their dicks in?
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>>51129533
>Fumarole enters tapped
>combo is best played in G/R for the ramp
>blue is mostly useless, because Fumarole and Crackdown cost so much to activate and cast
>im-fucking-plying you'd run a U/R tapland with upside in a G/R deck
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>>51129668
Still part of the next block
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>>51121490
>You're thinking too big.
>Any mana rock/dork lets you keep going.

True, however if you are playing (a 2 mana artifact + 3 mana artifact + 5 mana artifact) I would want to do something big because you are only doing this in EDH at best.

So what's the point about being spike about it?
Also a mana dork/rock in a vacuum for this example only net's you about 3-6 mana per-spell. That fine and dandy if you playing storm but if your playing a 5 mana artifact in storm(!?!) then you have already lost.... (outside of EDH but storm in EDH is fun for one, which is dumb)
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>>51085844
If you're talking about the deck I posted in one of these threads a while ago, it's much more based around Paradoxical Outcome than Inspiring Statuary.
The deck needs a mana rock in order to go crazy, Inspiring Statuary is just the best mana rock at making colorless.
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>>51131747
No idea what you mean, but I'd love to see a list.
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>>51121953
>Canon
>Meaning FUCKING ANYTHING to WOTC
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>>51127418
Why would he make a dragon? When has that ever been a thing?
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>>51133687
Retcons imply the opposite, they care too much. Stories from 8 years ago are being picked up.
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>>51133706
Never and the size isnt even right. Dragons should be a 5/4 at least. Also notbing in black or blue supports creature generation its more of a polymorph thing.
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