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Rate me.

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BLACK TEMPLARS ASSEMBLE!

>>51060417
4th for GW has spoiled that Cadia falls.

>>51060358
I'm too scared to look up how phone IPS are assigned. If it's geography based, that worries me, because there are some /d/viants living near me.

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>>51060380

Who is the Darth Vader of 40k?

Is it Abaddon?

>>51060037
Well, nice, our Decurion was already a massive, boring, unwieldy piece of shitty cheese and now they've produced a worse version.
I hope the rest are actually useable, since Cawl apparently only has a 5++ save and no EW. I guess his FnP rerollable helps a bit, but against anything ID he's a 300pt Company Commander.

>>51060402

Pretty much. Modular, interesting decurion when?

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Rate my revamped list, lads. Thanks to the Anons who gave me help the other day.

>>51060467

pardon my autismo but plz stop using the term 'Decurion' that's a necron term

>>51060473
>he named all of his dudes
Friendo. Pal. Buddy.

They're all gonna die.

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>not Put the Trash back in the Bin edition

>>51060491

I name all my officers and sergeants too

I also play IG, they always live to fight another day

>>51060486
What's the appropriate one, then? AFAIK most people get the wider meaning of "Decurion" or the Necron one from context easily enough.

>>51060491
I play Space Marines, ALL of my veteran sergeants/characters are named after characters from the Metal Gear series. I sometimes also name various goons after my mother base staff.

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Please don't be shit

Please don't be shit

Please don't be shit

>>51060517
N-name all your guys.

>>51060486
That's like saying don't use the term MEQ because only space marines are Marine Equivalents.

I love the thallax models from 30k, and have ordered 6 from forge world.

How many autistic reeeees will I get if I field them as space marines?

Running iron hands btw.

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>>51060548
+++ Please don't be shit +++
+++ Please don't be shit +++
+++ Please don't be shit +++

Binary brothers, join us in prayer....

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Skitarii anon from the other day. How does this list look as a sort of 'build up to a convocation' sort of thing? I really like Kastelans.

Inb4 some tool says the army builder is trash

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TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED US DOLLARS

>>51060572

Decurion is specifically a Necron term that caught on with people.

MEQ is catch all term.

>>51060473
Would take multimelta on the devil dogs.

the amount of heavy weapons make you very static, or the HWTs are useless when you advance

>>51060602
exchange rates you oaf

>>51060526

I'm playin' with you man, do as you please.

>>51060548
I don't think he will be by himself, but that mega formation sure is

Leaks when?

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>>51060602
>dolarydoos
>real money

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Would a Nurgle-only Daemonic Incursion work well?

I figure the Nurglings can infiltrate to tag as many objectives as possible early on and force my opponent to split up to go after them. Furies because I have to have the aux choice. They basically just tag objectives and distract. Then the big boys can go after the weakest links.

Everyone rolls on Biomancy probably. Maybe the princes on Plague since they can get Stream of Corruption and Plague Wind in range easily.

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>>51060602
>TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED US DOLLARS

>>51060614
Okay so my old list had a load of melta in it, I was told add more HWT, now I add more of those, I should take less?

Make up your damn minds.

>>51060418

I'd let her tomare my toki, if you know what I mean.

>>51060604
Would calling that kind of formation DEQ make you happy then?

>>51060597
I'm worried about your anti-armour capability, there, even the Neutron Laser can only do so much, which also brings me to the problem of anti-air, since you don't have an Icarus Array.

All in all not a bad build beyond those two flaws.

>>51060670
Would calling you over for my DIK make you happy?

>>51060667
Not a hivemind

>>51060686
Yes

i have what may be a stupid question

so looking at the Traitor Legions book, looking at Death Guard, building a Vectorium.....

I must build 1 core and 1 aux, i am able to have up to 4 command, and any number of additional core or aux......okay check. I totally understand.

why is the command formation red? you get the command benefits for death guard just for running the vectorium, not running the command formation.....so if I have a sorcerer and i run him in the chaos warband he gets obsec....but if i run him as command he doesnt?

can someone help me out here I dont know if there is any special rules for the command formation or why it is red.


oh and does the spawn formation not have any formation benefit? I dont know where the datasheet for the formation is, like what book it is in. it is not in traitors hate or traitor legions books

>>51060667
>Make up your damn minds.
how about listen to different peoples opinion, understand that there is not 'the one true answer' and keep both opinions in mind?

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When was the last time you played VS tyranids ?
How many turn did you need to table them ?

>>51060741
...I want more of these.

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>Battlescribe : No Inquisition FOC/Formation from IAgent
>List Builder: No FOC from Inquisition Codex, despite behing still relevant

godammit

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>>51060741
I've never played against tyranids because the one player at my FLGS doesn't bring them around anymore

>>51060718
The command choice is pretty much there so you can take some additional apostles/DPs/Lords/Sorcs. The spawn formation is literally just 1-3 units of spawn, with no additional benefits beyond it allowing you to add a single spawn to a core choice to get all the benefits of the full detatchment

>>51060718
not all choices in a meta-detachment are formations. I believe it explicitly states "is made of of formations and unit choices presented..."

Basically, if its not in a formation, it only receives the detachments command benefit, not any formation special rules (obviously, because its not in a formation)

>>51060764
>WHAT IS PEN AND PAPER
>WHAT IS MS WORD

my god the future is fucked

>>51060797

reminds me of that story of nasa spending millions to create a pen that writes in space and the russians just used pencils

>>51060797
>WHAT ARE EXCEL

>>51060741
Last time I played against tyranids, I had a casual fun list of like 4 scout squads and 2 tactical squads with a librarian, and some dreadnoughts. I can't even remember how long ago it was, but I tabled the tyranids on turn 3 after my Deredeo killed all 3 of his flyrants, 1 each turn.

To be fair, I pay for War on Murder for captain valentine regardless of whether or not it's useful. I carved those numbers into his hull, so I'm taking the points for it no matter what.

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>>51060684
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing so I tinkered with it a bit. I think the Cybernetica is a little...bloated to be honest.

How's this?

>>51060548
>300 points
>No EW

he's shit

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>>51060826

>casual fun list
>Deredeo

Could you see guys see trukks being able to transport a single deff dread and nothing else? I feel like that would be proppa orky. Literally a massive killing machine roped down to a trukk like that luggage that didn't fit in the trunk of that car.

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>>51060846
> Scouts
> CAD

>>51060842
Just like how for some reason Celestine didn't have EW and could only come back once. Yarrick is more of a living saint than her. Hell, Straken could one punch man Celestine out of existence.

how viable would it be to just run like 80x boys in trukks + like 20 meganobz in 2 battlewagons?

>>51060797

This. If you want a handy dandy tool that is actually functional like an army builder, just pre-load all the data into excel. Even beginners can use simple Excel formulas like =sum or =1850 - A1:A20 to make your own army building program.

Then just jot down all the unit points and wargear points and you have your own army building program in Excel spreadsheet form that isn't FUCKING WRONG all the time.

And people who think that shitty picture builder that the newfags keep putting in the OP actually makes "better looking lists" are fucking retarded. That Astra Militarum list made my eyes fucking bleed. I wanted to help the guy set up his special weapons and HWT loadouts but as soon as I opened it and saw a bunch of little faggots displayed there I closed it immediately.

>>51060491
>not naming your soldiers
How can they be literally YOUR DUDES if you don't name them?

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>>51060846
>he doesnt double deredeo + Knight Archeron in casual games.

>>51060882

Scouts are the best non-biker troop for a CAD. "Scouts" and "CAD" describe grav centurion deathstars too, so you're kind of wrong.

>>51060842
He's T6, he'll face tank str 10 all day long

>>51060936
>He doesn't number them expendable guardsmen #1-100

shigdig

>>51060936
>he is so poor he can still name is dudes

>>51060813

Literally didn't happen

A single inventor spent less than one million dollars developing a pen that would write in space after NASA decided they needed a writing device with a medium that was non-flammable in a 100% oxygen atmosphere (this was right after the apollo fire disaster). Lead used in pencils at the time was conductive and they didn't want pieces of it breaking off, drifting into ICs, and short circuiting stuff.

The guy who developed them had a contract with NASA and sold them for less than $3 a piece but people still smugly tell the "They used a pencil lol" story for some reason.

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>>51060936
>>>51060491
> >not naming your soldiers
> How can they be literally YOUR DUDES if you don't name them?
I did the bad paintjob,
I assembled the arms all wrong
my fingerprints in the residue glue and paint are all over them

They are my dudes...

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>>51060846
>faction known for flying monster spam
>bring anti-flying monster unit
>he turns with a flying monster list
>gets tabled

>>51060984
How can you be so rich you lose the ability to name things?

>>51060976
>not naming veterans and sergeants

>>51060926
not very

boyz in general aren't very good, bikers are the only really good option.

>>51061031
>He doesn't take all his men as conscripts who then survive and become regular guardsmen
>Who then become veterans if they survive
>He doesn't have a list build on how well his army plays

They have to earn a name anon.

>>51060486
>Negrons complaining about people using their word

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No one has names in my Space Marine chapter.

To have names is to have individualism is to have a life not completely devoted to the sole, singular purpose that my chapter lives, breathes, and dies for:

fucking xenos in the ass

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Reposting Blood Angels newbie, second attempt at list. Still feel like the first detachment is weak. Open to a complete rework if anyone has any suggestions. I'd just like to keep drop pods and the Terminators.

>>51060614
They have an order that allows them to fire and then run in the same turn. It's not that static with heavy weapons in a Guard army. Plus it's Guard, they are a more static army.

Not to mention, with how many Psykers he has, he can roll on the Biomancy table and use Endurance to make them Relentless.

>>51060667
It can be confusing, but with differing opinions like that I think it's best to play and see how it works out. Heavy weapons are good. If read above there are options to make them useful on the go.

>>51061060
This. After 10 years of stomping my buddies nids into the ground, my castellan was promoted to marshall and given the title "slayer of tyrants"

>>51060952
True, but the amount of ID weaponry in this game is rather large, It's similar to the AP2 bloat thing. He can tank Demolishers all day, but one lucky bonesword or psychic power hit and he's gone.

>>51061060
Gotta start somewhere, Anon.

>>51060604

Decurion didn't "catch on". It was literally the first and only one of its kind until more came out. When the second one rolled around, which was Space Marine I think, everyone just said "the Space Marine Decurion" and not Gladius or whatever it was. Then when the third one came out, guess what people remembered more. Was it Gladius? Was it whatever the new one was called? No. It was fucking DECURION.

>>51061085

> I'm new to 40k so I apologize if this question is retarded

Blood Angels can take locator beacons on every tac squad right? Is that why you have shitloads of Terminators?

Like, you drop pod in regular marines behind enemy lines and then teleport in terminators and before you know it your enemy has all sorts of units up their ass?

>>51060779
>>51060785
thank you guys!

>>51061020
how woukd one name 1200 guardsman and 90 tanks?

>>51060985
The lead in pencils is still conductive. You can try it yourself.

>>51061020

My employees have numbers; my corporations have names.

>>51061146
You have 1200 Sergeants and Officers?

>>51061146
ez

random rolls on a d100

Where do you guys buy your shit?
I usually bought from waylandgames but there are a loads of shit not in stock so I just went to gamesworkshop site to see the prices they have, I thought that hell, how high can the prices be compared to those from waylandgames considering that they must make a profit too from distribution and shit.
I just compared the price of the Burning of Prospero box...
Waylandgames sells it at 93.82 bucks.
Games Workshop sells it at 315 bucks...

What the flying fuck?
How?
Why?

Where the fuck do you guys buy your shit? And please tell me you're not paying GW prices.

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>>51061146

> how would one name 1200 guardsman and 90 tanks?

>>51061171
>not naming every individual troop, and personalizing each of them so they all look different from each other with their own backstory.

>>51060985
Also the pencil shavings where an hazard in space, so a replacement was needed either way

>>51061181

Your prices are set to NZ or AU or something. Also GW sells products at 50% to retailers.

>>51061181

I feel bad when I go to my local GW to pick up webstore only orders and the guys there are like, 'hey buy something help me out' and I'm like 'naw lol I can get 20-30% off at other places' I say this in my mind of course I wouldn't be that rude to a red shirt's face

>>51060952
Mathhammer-wise Cawl will take 30% of the AP2 wounds he is dealt, so a little bit better than a 3++ once you factor in his Feel No Pain.

Honestly, would it have killed them to give him Eternal Warrior? Any random Space Marine sarge can have it, loads of people have it as relics. I'd take a 40pt upgrade.

>>51061181

I get most of my stuff from Goblin Gaming, but I buy small stuff like paints and 5-packs of Chaos Cultists from the local GW just to be nice and for convenience.

>>51061181
I buy everything from eBay usually since they almost always have at least 20% or more off MSRP. I don't really gear well with Wayland and Warstore with their shipping prices. Plus you can order bits and stuff, and then there's the rare time you get an actual auction and pay pennies.

>>51061134
I actually didn't get homers but I should probably free up points to get at least one of those in there.

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>>51061154

>>51061181

I order my big shit online. I think "pay where you play" is sorta important but they charge full GW prices and I just can't afford that. I'll still try to buy my paint and occasional small units there or whatever to support the place though.

I'd buy from waylandgames in a heartbeat but they don't ship to the US.

>>51061085
i would give the sarge a combi melta, if you can squueze that in somehow.
The inferno pistol on the Chaplain probably wont see much use.

>>51061213
There may be an Eternal Warrior relic in the new Admech Relics of Mars list

>>51061110
Yeah but that's true for a lot, EW is rare but Cult Mechanics can get as a warlords trait, or perhaps one of the 6 new cult mech relics in the Cadia book gives it

>>51061213
See above

Warzone fenris. Chaos attacking wolves and summoning Magnus 2 books.

Fall of Cadia, total destruction of 2nd most defendet planet in the imperium. Great and epic war 1 book.
WTF GW?

>>51061276

>136 pages
>focus is on Black Templars, Sisters, and Admech

>>51061199
Indeed the shekels were set for NZ, jesus fuck I almost died a little. Now I feel stupid for not seeing the NZ mark at the top of the page.

>>51061234
I would support my local store too if I had one. Living in Romania and having this hobby is suffering.

My dream is to have someone to play with fml

>>51061206
20/30% doesn't matter, Anon.

>>51061276
GW said this is the first in a year long narrative

>>51061181
Are you in Europe Anon?

>>51061171
when someone is collecting guard for 10+ years, it's really not inconceivable. you'll have 80+ infantry for your first few forces, and that can easily go up to 180-200 in 1850 and 2000. building apocalypse forces might bring it up to 400-500 infantry. fielding conscripts is normally 40-50 per unit, so that might be an extra 100-200 if you're not running many. and you might want to collect multiple different armies, so you might buy a 1500 point force of vostroyans or catachans in addition to whatever force you first made. collecting fluffy units like ogryns, wyrdvanes, scions, and ratlings that you won't normally field in games can bring it up another 30+ depending on how much you like a certain unit's fluff.

so even a 4,000 point army might field 450~ infantry. imagine collecting for years and buying every set of bits that comes along. you'll probably field 10,000 points after a decade or two of playing, which can easily break 1,000. imagine owning 40,000 like a lot of 40k addicts. that's probably nearly 5,000 units.

tl;dr it's not tough to have 1000+ units

>>51061238
I'm thinking of cutting down the Tac squads to 5-man units, just going melta, combi-melta. Death Company Chaplain comes with the inferno pistol as a default loadout though so can't get rid of it.

>>51060447
Thinking the closest thing is Mephiston

>>51061311
see
>>51061298

Romania, to be exact so yeah, EU.

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>>51061305

So I should pay full prices instead of taking 30% off?

>>51061327
Sometimes.

>>51061206
you can also order your webstore only orders there, i think that is included in their revenue

>>51061249
>>51061273

Yeah, I really hope that's a thing just so my Dominus can stop dying to immobilized Helbrute multi-meltas. Seriously, it's happened four times now.

Cawl can't take a relic or roll a WT as a unique, but I guess he'd be decent. I just hope he has good boosts to actual Admech units, rather than buffs for vehicles I don't have and special rules that I already do.

>>51060380
Could someone briefly get me up to speed on the current state of 40k? It's been 3 or 4 years and it looks confusing. Have the lists become like age of sigmar? What are you using to post these pics of army lists?

>>51061231

"My tanks have names, my men have numbers."

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> Install auto currency conversion extension that automatically converts £ to the USD amount in any webpage to make it easier to browse Forge World's store
> Forget about it
> Later get confused when my friend sends me a message on facebook saying she's excited because she lost $18

Sometimes I think I am retarded and everyone I know is just too nice to tell me

>>51061326
Triple Helix wargames offer a discount if you can wait two weeks for your order to be despatched. I think they only ship to Europe for GW stuff

>>51061338

Yeah they explained that but it means I have to make a trip down there to order, leave, then come back again to pick up the order.

>>51061341
It's in the OP, dammit.

You can ally pretty easily with people but it's not as loose as AoS.

>>51061341
Other then CAD there are now formations all over.

The link to the arm buildr should be in the OP

>>51061327

Most online stores have 20% off only, 25% at the max. You won't find a place with 30% usually except probably the UK.

Think of it as a tip. You tip your restaurants 20% all the time, or minimum 15% unless you're some cheap faggot scum of the earth who deserves neither food, sustenance, nor wargames, so why wouldn't you consider tipping your FLGS 20% for the service of letting you use their table, terrain, and property?

>>51061309
They destroy FUCKING CADIA in one book. This deserve at least 2 books, it's 2nd most defendet planet in Imperium.

>>51061085
Death Company work best as MSU ("Multiple Small Units") instead of one large squad in most situations, but with the DC Chappy there he may just make them choppy enough for it to work. Just make sure the enemy has other things to deal with (the Tacs and Termies) before moving your boys in black up the board.

Other than that, the list looks fine. I'd Combat Squad the Tacticals to separate the Heavy Flamer and the Meltagun as they should be going for separate types of targets (infantry and vehicles respectively). You might want to drop the DC with the Thunder Hammer to buy some Locator Beacons on the drop pods so you can place numerous beacons, allowing for multiple, simultaneous and devastating offensive deep strikes that don't scatter. You already have a ton of Thunder Hammer's on the Termies anyway. Give him a Power Lance if you really feel it's necessary. It'll allow hit to strike at S6 AP3 at I5 with a ton of attacks and reroll both To Hit and To Wound rolls.

Good luck on your game fellow BAnon

>>51061362
I'm a filthy phone poster and can't navigate all the links.

>>51061374
What if you don't use a FLGS?

>>51061374
>tipping for anything but exemplary service

>Americans

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>>51060813
I fucking hate when people bring up this argument because A) Yeah, and look where their space program is now and B) shit >>51060985 lights >>51061149 on >>51061196 FIRE, which is BAD

"hurr bdurr Russians are more efficient than US because pencil"

>>51061374

> tipfag so desperate to bring up this argument in a completely unrelated forum

wew lad

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>>51061339
>my infantry hero got vaporized by one of the strongest common weapons in the game, meant to melt the hulls of tanks

>>51061355
I'll check them out when I get to work.
Thanks anon.

>>51061386
don't mind him bein angry. The question does come up in about every general for the last month or so.

>>51061362
>>51061371

No it's not, OP took it out again. God fucking dammit, OP.

>>51061327

Do you want to save 30% and have no shop to play at, or pay full price and have one? It's really up to you. If everyone thought like you the store wouldn't carry GW stuff anymore and only M:tG. The store had to pay 50-60% just to buy the product, in addition to the money they have to pay for the paint racks, because GW requires those and don't provide them for free. The store is barely making a profit at 70%.

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>>51061377

They could have stretched out the destruction of Cadia for a few years to be honest senpai

>>51061341
Check OP for list builder.

Things are pretty big right now. Business-wise Kirby left and prices are improving. Not cheap, but better. A lot of affordable starter boxes and shit. Pretty good overall.

Tabletop-wise, not much different. Eldar are OP. Daemons, Genestealer Cults, and Space Marines are top-tier. Tau and Necrons are strong. Most other stuff is middling. Orks and Nids are pathetic. Chaos Spessmen got a big buff with their new codex supp, Traitor Legions. Death Guard looks really powerful in particular.

Fluff-wise, big changes. I won't list every retcon and addition, but recently
>Fenris was attacked by a returning Magnus and the Thousand Sons. Chaos won, Fenris got destroyed mostly.
>Harlequins and GSC are back in mainstream fluff
>New supp called Fall of Cadia is going to feature the 13th Crusade hitting [spoilers]what the hell do you think[/spoiler]

Overall things are looking up. Everyone's a bit worried of Sigmarization but I don't think it's coming personally.

>>51061436
but the 13th crusade is going on since the eye of terror campaign 15 or so years ago :P

>>51061418
You won't find "finecast" or website exclusives but you will get the core of your forces there.

They tend to get deliveries every Thursday so you'll likely wait a week for them to get your stuff.

>>51061449
You forgot Adeptus Mechanicus got an army.

>>51061402
You say that like there's anything someone can do about where they're born, and what the customs of their country are like. I'm sure your country's not perfect either, and mandatory tipping seems like the most asinine thing to pick on.

>>51061181

Is the war store any good?

GW won't let you list shit on your website so you have to email them to get an excel sheet of their prices and availability which is kinda hilarious.

>>51061396

Why the fuck is this even an issue then? If you don't ever use the FLGS then don't buy from them if they cost more than other places, pretty fucking simple, idiot.

>>51061436
What is that movie?

>>51061491
He brought it up and it seems silly. Especially how much he seems to hate people who don't tip. It's funny.

>>51061480
oh yeah, i guess i was just retarded

i have some models and everything, i guess they just sort of feel like they've always been there to me now

>>51060418
I'd let her rock my warudo all night before she kills me for sustenance

>>51061511
The guy who's asking for a discount literally doesn't have an FLGS to buy from. Why the fuck are you getting hysterical about him buying with a discount?

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>>51061380
Thank you very much! I think I might cut the Thunder Hammer for beacons, completely forgot about those but they seem like a great idea for the list. I was just worried the squad might get stuck in combat with something they couldn't hurt. Appreciate the advice!
Now I just need to buy all the stuff.

>>51061449
you forgot the 2most important things
-isters got a new model. for real. and a plastic celestine is announced

GW actually got out of their hole and made a rather large FAQ, even if most is in draft.(Yes they asked on facebook for questions, made a a draft for people to comment again)

>>51061341
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

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>>51061517

Michael Mann's best film

The Keep

>>51061547
Celestine is on pre-order with her named character companions.

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>>51060548

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>>51061341
GW have a community site

https://www.warhammer-community.com/

an in universe newspaper

https://regimental-standard.com/

and a Twitch stream now.

They also talk to people on Facebook and actually reply and change shit.

red tithe when?

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My Predictions:

>Cawl is meh
>He gives minor buffs that don't really do much
>Most people run him anyway

>Grand Convocation is just a single formation
>Costs 2000+ points and requires every admech model
>Except, choose either a Dragoon or Balistarii
>Only a few youtube channels showcase it, nobody actually runs it ever

>New combined book comes out next month
>Literally stapled the two books together
>Adds the Fall of Cadia additions
>Try to not think about how much money you spent as you toss away three books
>Big benefit of having all units in one CAD so nobody complains

>Everyone is sad at the lackluster Admech releases

>IA comes out in a few months
>Adds almost the entire 30k mechanicum line
>Transports
>Decurion that has a ton of flavor
>It is now required to use IA to play Admech to the fullest

>>51060838
Pretty good
If I were you I'd go for Sydonian AND a Ballistarius
I always feel that ballistarius is ok but not THAT amazing
Sydonians are very güt provided they also have a permanent 5+ cover save

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>>51061600
I could live with that outcome honestly, although if they don't add at least 2 units in the combined book I'm going to be a very sad boy.

At the least they had better fucking revise electro priests I swear to Omnissiah

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Where's the best place to order 40k stuff online in the US?

I live in BFE and there are no actual stores around here.

>>51061519
Waiters aren't paid minimum wage in the USA. They can have wages as low as $2.50 or $3.50 an hour. Their income can be over 75% based on tips.

>well restaurants should actually pay them their due then
>well they should find another job then

It's not that easy for everyone. And then you factor in having to deal with complete asshat customers.

>>51061519

Not tipping is an asshole move in the states.

>>51061653
actually restaurants have to pay full minimum wage if the waiter doesn't get tipped enough to make it in an hour.

>>51061653

Waitstaff are required to earn their state's minimum wage in states that have a separate tipped minimum wage. If their wages plus tips equals less than the state's minimum their employer is required by law to cover the difference.

tl;dr - You're dumb and don't know what you are talking about.

>>51061574
I love the giant robo-boner he has going on under the front of his robe.

>>51061686
And then they fire that waiter. That's how it goes.

>>51061686
>>51061691
>what is under the table
>what is cash only
>what is employee who doesn't know enough or can't afford to prosecute

You're the dumb one, Nancy Naive.

>>51061619
Yeah I didn't know which one to stick with because I like them both. But I don't have any other assaulting units so I figured I'd go with two Ballistarius instead. Are autocannons good enough or should I find the points for lascannons? I think that'd be overkill really. I could cut a vanguard squad into two 5man ranger squads maybe, too, to give me more area cover. Maybe with arc rifles to hunt tanks?

>>51061691
Let me guess, you're white and think you're smart. Well I got news for you, honkey.

>>51061720

> against the law
> against the law
> not my problem

Looks like you're still the dumb one.

>>51061181
You and everyone else who responded to this that doesn't buy stuff over the counter, and then complains when gw squats a line or discontinues a product, you people are your own worst enemies and deserve every bad thing that happens to you (in regards to warhammer, you don't deserve to be hit by a bus or anything, that's fucked up)

>>51061629
At this point I would be glad if they just got rid of the fuckers. All they do is just make the roster look bigger than it really is, because you would never take them unless forced.

Orks are shit, but at least they are shit mostly relative to eachother, so nothing is a definite "I would never take that in a million years" Electropriests are just completely superfluous, I have literally never seen an actual physical model of them, let alone seen a game with them being used.

>>51061600
>IA comes out in a few months
>>Adds almost the entire 30k mechanicum line
I want my abeyant for my magos

>>51061691
Haha yeah, good joke buddy

That shit never happens

>>51061753
The thing is, if they had something like deep strike or any kind of way to get them into combat, they'd be amazing. Well, not amazing. Usable I guess. Maybe let it though they have a shunt move like Grey Knight Interceptors maybe? Some kind of electro-blink.

>>51061720
>>51061737
>>51061778

>Americans

Get better labour laws.

>>51061600
I'm only running pure Skitarii but I picked my codex up a month ago, throwing it away this soon would be annoying. Can't complain about getting some sweet 30k transports though, my tin men are pretty fragile.

>>51061800

How about you just stop talking about shit you clearly don't know about, you pompous faglord?

>implying you can just change the law to begin with
>implying the laws aren't written by the rich, in ALL countries

Now who's dumb.

>>51061600
>actually using fucking forgeworld trash, ever

Not on my life. Fuck that garbage ass broken nonsense that everyone has boners for.

>>51061800
>people ignore the laws
>get better laws

Are you retarded? Daily reminder that moot was right about European and Australian shitposters.

>>51061733
Arc yes
But on vanguards there slightly better
Also plasma calivers (on Vanguard)
Rangers can do well from farther away
I noticed you don't have much assault which was why I was gonna say two sydonians.
I typically run:
Dominus maniple or skitarii maniple
Sicarian killclade
The skitarii elites are good for mopping up weak units and the occasional terminator squad.

>>51061720

> poorfag butthurt waiter

>>51061737

> ethnic middle school dropout

>>51061750

> redshirt who can't meet his sales quotas

This thread is a salt mine

This thread is a gold mine

>>51061745

Nah, the dumb one's you for still talking when it clearly doesn't involve you by your own admission, and for thinking everything's fine because a law prohibits something. Guess murder ain't a problem either because you didn't get killed.

>>51061838
>Fuck that garbage ass broken nonsense

Prove your claim.

>>51061872

> gets btfo
> starts strawmanning

sure thing pal :^)

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>>51061693
Oh my god...

>>51061846
What are you talking about? The people having a hissy fit are complaining that they don't get paid minimal wage, even though they do. If their employer isn't doing that, then you challenge it first to them and then in court, hell, get a bunch of your coworkers together and do it together, spread the cost.

>>51061693
Hahah holy shit

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>thread ruined by autismos going on about tipping waiters and employment laws

>>51061918
>expecting 40k generals to not be shit

Foreigners.

>>51061869
>ethnic

Put another shrimp on the barbie.

>>51061918

Waiters get faggy and complain about muh tips literally every chance they get. They don't care if it's Thanksgiving Dinner, drinks with friends, or a 40k General.

They're one step above people begging in the streets with cardboard signs as far as society is concerned.

>>51061788
The problem is that Electro Priests were clearly designed to be Troops and Kataphrons were clearly designed to be Elites, but at some point they flipped them around for some stupid reason or another and adjusted the points so WHOOPSIE

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>>51061963
>>51061901
>>51061890
>>51061872
>>51061869
>>51061846
>>51061838
>>51061828

I like conversions and hate painting.

Is Orks a good fit for me?

Forgive my stupid question, but what list builder are you all using?

>Fall of Cadia
>less than 136 pages
>focus on Black Templars, Sisters, Mechanicus instead of IG
>Even less Cadia, add Imperial Fists fighting Daemons and IW on Phalanx
>Destroy best defended world in Imperium in 136 pages with a lot of it is not even about Cadia
GJ GW

>>51061181

My LGS for small stuff, and another shop an hour away for 25% off anything because they just order it from GW with free shipping.

>>51061965
The sad thing is that the only thing they need to make them a fucking powerhouse of a unit is an assault transport. That alone would put them up with the other melee superfuckers like Genestealers, Wulfen and TWC. All dem attacks with the possibility of instant death and then for shits and giggles you can pop the electro prayer and get 7 million addition hits.

>>51061965
>The problem is that Electro Priests were clearly designed
>box of 5
>troops
There is a reason no one uses dire avegers anymore or get them second hand

>>51062018
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator
Supposed to be in the OP but fell out for some reason.

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Who can honestly say they're not playing 40k because of these magnificent bastards?

>implying dreadnoughts aren't the backbone of the whole franchise's rule of cool

>>51062026
It opens on Cadia, right? It opens on Cadia saying all but on Kasr has fallen.

At the start. It skips most of it.

>>51062007
>hate painting
Nah tau sounds more like your deal

>>51062007

Literally the best fit.

Half their shit is looted space marine vehicles, and their own stuff like Trukks are ripe for conversions or additions.

If you think the vehicles in Fury Road are cool than Orks are your army.

They're not super great on the table right now, but while you might not be the best performing you'll certainly have the coolest looking models.

>>51062018
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/

Don't use it if you're new, it doesn't contain the rules for list writing, only the point values.

>>51062073

kek

>>51060447
probably some cool inquisitor

>>51062055
Got me into it even tho I admech now

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>>51060741
A while ago. Too many fucking Gaunts/Venomthropes for me to kill everything but we ended up tieing in points.

>>51062052

Because it's shit.

What's better for Night Lords, Traitor Legions or 30k Legions?

I can't help but think that +1 to to hit and wound while wielding +1S rending power swords is better in every way. Plus, 30k gets drop pods.

>>51062055

Do they still not actually sell a twin linked heavy flamer dreadnought arm even though it's in the codex?

Gonna have to model one I guess.

Flamer on one arm, CCW with flamer on the other, gonna drop pod that motherfucker into a pile of infantry and just go apeshit.

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>>51060380
>it's the faggot OP that doesn't put the link to the builder but puts space0din shit fandex
Fucking faggot
>mfw

>>51062018
Here you go lad
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>>51062105
The demand is there, so you put it in. It's not for you to decide.

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>>51061862
Is the Killclade worth it? It gives the Infiltrator aura to Ruststalkers and let's them run and charge right? I mean, Ruststalkers are super squishy if they don't win the combat right? But brutal in that first round. I'm not so sure on them.

I tinkered a little more with it and added some infiltrators. I'd really like to run some Kastelans but they're so damn expensive. RIP.

Never played kill team before, friend is starting a league. What;s a good skitarii force for it?

>>51062073
Actually do have a Tau army that I've painted a large chunk of. Just looking to branch out.

>>51061341
GW has made progress in the whole "interacting with the fanbase" thing, but all it's done is showcase how little they actually care for the game.

Prices are pretty much the same. Yes, there are new discount boxes, but they aren't any better than the old battle forces and random army boxes.

Rules are worse than ever. They've decided that spamming as many books as possible is the model to shoot for, so every faction has a gajillion books each with one or two tidbits, and 90% of them are either full of errors or laughably imbalanced.

>>51062140

I'm not the one who took it out, and the demand for people to remove it and stop using it outweighs the couple of newfags who ask about it. AND it clutters the thread with unreadable, shitty, incorrect army lists, so what reason do you have to put it in other than clueless faggots ask about it?

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>>51062132
They don't sell most twinlinked dreadnought components. It's just explained that it has them on deployment.

It's good/bad, really. On the good side, you get all kinds of fun ideas for how they look because there's nothing official. On the other hand, you can't buy an obviously available component.

You can buy third party ones though. Dunno about the flamer specifically.

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>>51062055
dreads are cool, but jump pack marines are what made me start. nothing cooler then 7ft genetically enginered super soldiers crashing out of the sky with giant hammers or lightning claws

>>51062140
The demand is only there because you morons keep using it. Then you put it in the OP because well hey, even if it's shit everyone wants to use it. Then you wonder why the generals turn into shit.

>>51062206
Stop liking what I don't like: the post

>finally get Traitor Legions
>50% reprint of material from the last handful of books
>most of the new stuff is mediocre at best, and much of it is still bottom tier
>full of errors and oversights
Why are people that don't play World Eaters, Alpha Legion, or Death Guard excited for this?

>>51062181
>painted tau
pics or it didnt happen

Jokes aside, orks are great for conversions, but look like a pile of shit if you dont wanna paint/ dont paint properly

>>51062242

The program doesn't even do the one thing it's supposed to, which is create legible, accurate army lists. What good is it then? Might as well put other useless shit like cookie clicker or 40k bingo in the OP too. It's not a matter of what I like or hate, it's literally, unobjectively shit.

>>51062255
Because Word Bearers and Night Lords also got decent shit too?

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>>51062255

Lightning! Real lightning!

>>51061185
>Every time a troop dies you record their name, rank and age and create a new character

>>51062255

I can finally run my all terminator Black Legion army

>>51062232
>there are no dreadnoughts converted to have jump packs
What the fuck?

>>51061449
Thanks anon. Pretty annoyed about the Fenris thing. Heard the whole Eldar race got ganged for the sake of deathwatch fan wank too.

>>51062104
>Gloss brown
>Shitnids
>Tyranids come across world with high density population
>There is more shit than people
>Tyranids need the biomass
>Shitnids

Was just thinking, how are there no dark eldar sworn to Khorne? Sure it might be unsavory but wouldn't it be a valid method (assuming you're strong enough to gain his favor) of not having your soul murder-raped for all eternity?

>>51062007
Def necrons for the hate painting part. Just prime black and dry brush metallic colours, super easy and still looks decent

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>>51062238
>The demand is only there because you morons keep using it. Then you put it in the OP because well hey, even if it's shit everyone wants to use it. Then you wonder why the generals turn into shit.
>implying the list builder isn't beneficial when it helps players to easily make lists to play and ask for advice on /tg/
>thinks that space0din cancer is somehow beneficial for the thread
Anon please

>>51062260
Well, I'm thinking my actual end target is Renegades and Heretics. A little less conversion, a little more Chaos.

>>51062341
>tfw the only version of Necrons I've liked was a sandstone Egyptian version a friend of mine did
Welp.

>>51062338
Khorne hates them.

>>51062338
>implying getting murder raped for all eternity isn't DE heaven

>>51062055
Honestly yeah, dreadnoughts are pretty cool looking. I love the... bird? that he has in his left hand.

Thinking of starting a guard army.

Hows this look for the first 1k?

Tank Commander = 30 pts
Vanquisher w/ Lascannon = 145
Vanquisher w/ Lascannon = 145
Vet squad W/ Melta gun X3, Chimera = 185
Vet squad W/ Melta gun X3, Chimera = 185
Leman Russ Battle Tank = 150
Leman Russ Battle Tank = 150
Total 990

>>51062325
>>51062232
>>51062055
Hmm, does anyone have any neat AdMech dreadnought builds? I feel like I usually see just different weapons or paint jobs.

>>51062345
What good is making incorrect lists that nobody wants to comment on?

>>51062360
If Necrons were literally sci-fi Tomb Kings I'd like them a lot more.

>>51062360
Well if necrons don't entice you and you hate painting, then choose any army you want, use a black or white colour scheme, spray paint them and then add some contrast on shoulder pads/weapons.

>>51062345

Neither is beneficial, so I guess that must be why you insist on putting both in the OP. God forbid new players actually have to read their rules and learn how to properly create and type an army list.

>>51062038
>box of 5 troops

It's not exactly uncommon

I mean shit, Electros are designed to come up to units of 20.

TWENTY

Trying to justify only 5 in the box might be why they became Elites in the first place. But then again also, Kataphrons ARE the CM troops and they come in boxes of THREE

>>51062423
I mean, the alternative is people taking photos of hand scrawled army lists like I did the other day, or typing it up in notepad and getting bitched at that the formatting is awful.

Stop complaining without any intention of a solution.

>>51062388
>Vanquishers

They're like multi meltas. Unreliable at BS 3, and even at BS 4 it's single shot.

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>>51062306
>unless you play death korps of Krieg, then you just roll a new number and send them to day again

>>51062448
They could have put them 10 in a box easily since it's a 5 man sprue. I hate the weird electrical patterned torsos they have but the pants/lower half is pretty amazing. And honest the unit itself is great if you can actually get it into combat.

>>51062403
>What good is making incorrect lists that nobody wants to comment on?

Could have fooled me, considering all the replies they get.

>>51062155
If you're only taking 2 troops and a Dominus in a Battle Congregation take them as a Holy Requisitioner so that you can do deepstrike shenanigans with Zealot and Counterattack

>>51062388
I'd try to fit a psyker to twin-link the Vanquishers' guns. I'd recommend an Eradicator (or a Wyvern) to deal with cover over 2 LRBTs but otherwise it looks fine.

>>51062388
I like it, but personally I would use an Exterminator for the buddy of the Tank Commander and use the split fire rule. BS3 with 1 shot blows. With the saved points you could give the Tank Commander Multi-Meltas too and then the Exterminator buddy Heavy Bolters.

So like

Tank Commander, Vanquisher, Lascannon, Multi-Melta sponsons - 195
Exterminator, Heavy Bolter sponsons - 150

Vet Squad, 3 Meltas, Chimera -155
Vet Squad, 3 Meltas, Chimera -155

Leman Russ 150
Leman Russ 150

That's like 45 points left. You could give the Tank Commander and buddy Camo netting, and maybe another tank camo netting, or you could get an Enginseeer with Melta Bombs to fix tanks.

>>51062488
Well I was taking the Grav Destroyers because I lacked anti tank. But I suppose 12 haywire shots or the torsion Cannons might do the job too.

>>51062057
>It skips most of it.
yeah that's kinda what he's pointing out, dude

>>51062026
I was actually hyped, thinking we'd get something for the Guard. My guess is we might get maybe 1 formation and that's it. I didn't think we'd get new models, but I thought we'd get something a little neat.

Now I'm thinking we'll get some shitty formation that's equivalent to the Ogryn and Bullgryn formation. The kind no one will take.

>>51062531
Unless you are fighting Orks, haywire is always better and even then Haywire would still probably do just as well. Torsion cannons are for when you are up against Tau suit spam lists and want to just mulch a riptide in one shot.

>>51062055
Not a big fan of that. I like the Tau Crisis suits more. The rest of the Tau suits are dumb sadly.

What got me into 40k were Basilisks and Sentinels. I still like using both. Emperor's Wrath with Emperor's Shield and I'm ready.

>>51061507
I've never understood this because other stores all have lists on their websites

Is there any solid reason to believe epic will come back in any form? Last I heard they'd finished self contained army boxes for a 10mm game.

>>51062651
Yes, GW have said so themselves.

8mm game, Loyalst/Traitor Titans and Knights first, then smaller units and xenos and shit.

>>51062651
The only "solid" evidence is a resin warlord that was presented in one of the last year forgeworld events.

>>51062700
You completely missed all the stuff that came out on the 2nd, huh?

>>51062306
i just use the serial no. of the lasguns.
Much simpler to keep track of.
And gets reissued when new trooper picks up rifle

>>51061374
>Think of it as a tip. You tip your restaurants 20% all the time, or minimum 15%

i'm australian and we pay our workers what they deserve though....................

>>51061507
>>51062603

It never made sense, but the practice comes from the time when GW were complete assholes and suing everyone and doing all sorts of Nazi shit like banning international sales.

Not having a webcart is extremely inconvenient. My guess is that it isn't so people will use GW's official store, the actual reason most likely has to do with them trying to copyright their stock photo images.

>>51062760

Then why do Australians complain about how expensive everything is if you're being paid enough.

>>51061185
>Not roleplaying as a administratum clerk
>not having your army just as a bunch of numbers on a spreadsheet

>>51062651
Yes, since last year at least. Plastic starter set is supposed to come out sometime this year with the rest of the range being in resin and sold via the FW website. Same model as Bloodbowl.

>>51061181
I pay GW prices at my GW store

>>51062780
if australians don't complain about everything people forget they exist

>>51062763
Yeah, most sites use the front of the box.
>>51062729
That's just dark bro...
But pretty clever.

>>51062763

GW wanting to copywrite stuff makes sense, since it's the reason they refer to Orks as Orruks, Space Marines as Legion Astartes, Imperial Guard as Astra Militarum, etc etc.

You can't trademark "Ork" but you can trademark "Orruk", and so on and so forth.

>>51062812

Build a wall around the rest of the world and make them pay for it.

WHERE ARE YOU GUYS SEEING THE NEW BUNDLES?
I CANNOT FIND THEM

>>51062800
This. I used to have a gw within walking distance of my house that went outta business. They reopened a few years later at a smaller location and are a shadow of their former self. The old store used to have every wall stocked to the brim with every army, huge number of staff (for a gw) and even a backroom for members. We lost it all because people don't want to support the things they love

>>51062882

Literally "Armored Assault" on the webstore omg

>>51060928
upload ur template pls

>>51062780
i don't complain about how expensive everything is because I went through university without racking up a massive inflated debt and got a well paying job that provides me with an expendable income................

>>51062914

No you fucking mongoloid I mean the Fall of cadia bundles

>>51062944

Probably should have specified then dumbass, the Cadia ones aren't available yet.

>>51063029

Then how does everyone have the images to them and all the information on whats in them, dumbass?

>>51062882
They're only up on the New Zealand store

>>51063029
>>51063065
Switch the fucking country to new zealand you mongoloid fucks, learn what a time-zone is.

>>51063077

Thank you one helpful non-autist on this post

a Tech-Priest Enginseer;
- 10 Skitarii Vanguard;
- 10 Skitarii Rangers;
- 3 Kataphron Destroyers;
- 3 Kataphron Breachers;
- 3 Ironstrider Ballistarii;
- 2 sets of 5 Electro-Priests – a set of Coruscarii and a set of Fulgurite;
- 5 Sicarian Infiltrators;
- 5 Sicarian Ruststalkers;
- a Start Collecting! Skitarii set – this adds another 10 Skitarii Vanguard, another Onager Dunecrawler and a Tech-Priest Dominus.

Fuck you GW and fuck your Electro Priests

>>51063084
are you having a good year so far anon

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>>51063095
>Grand Convocation
>pack has 4 Kastellan robots in the preview picture
>actual pack has no Kastellans at all

????

>>51063084
>Switch the fucking country to new zealand

That will trigger than wartime PTSD when they see the prices.

>>51062136
He's just a lazy fucker with old shit.

>>51061082
>fucking xenos in the ass

Do eldar has assholes
They have like a triple chromosome so they probably process Food perfectly with no waste
Tau has assholes

>>51063178
>Do eldar has assholes
>They have like a triple chromosome so they probably process Food perfectly with no waste

They poop crystals.

>>51063065

Because they've been leaked for a while.

Sorry if you're too retarded to understand simple information and that no one is willing to spoonfeed you

>>51063196

No apparently they arent leaked, its the new zealand site.

Thank you Autismo, enjoy your internet argument points.

Does 40k have the largest appeal of any tabletop game aside from maybe star wars and magic? Seems like all the biggest losers in the game stores play everything else but 40k. Don't get me wrong, there are some stinky fat guys that play this too but I noticed that the only people that look like they lift, either play 40k or magic.

Anyone else observe this?

>>51062861

>Orks as Orruks,

Only in Fantasy.

Orks are still known as "Orks" in 40k.

>>51063214

I'd rather have internet argument points than goodboy points.

I hope you choke to death on your tendies :^)

>>51063230

I can't tell if this is bait or not because while it seems wrong, I myself play those and lift...

M:tG seems to have the widest demographic, and like average people, they are average in hygiene and fitness. 40K has more older and heavier players in the US. 40K is popular in the military so if you're in a military city like Fort Worth Texas or something you're going to see that type of person.

>>51063252
ok

>>51063249
Orks are Orkz in 40k

quick fluff question, with all the rumours of multiple primarchs being alive if one decided to visit Terra would he have to obey an Inquisitor or the council of Terra?

>>51063142
DAT PIC
mechanicus Fighting orks. Even fucking less Cadia in fall of Cadia.

>>51063265

> military dudes into 40K

I keep hearing about this, supposedly it's super popular among soldiers.

Is this just because it's just a group of dudes in their 20s, or is there something else that causes it?

I always figured people in the armed forces or whatever would be more into Flames of War or other historical stuff.

>>51063272

>Orks are Orkz in 40k

Not from what I've seen.

They're still refer to them as "Orks" in the lore and "Orks" on Gamesworkshop's webstore and Forgeworld's webstore.

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>>51063195

>>51063306

Same reason Halo is more popular than WWII games.

>>51063265
I live in a big city that also has some military and it's those guys are a split between 40k and mtg here. Man I just can't stand the body odor and obesity is fairly disgusting too. However, most of the 40k crowd is older and cool so I can deal with the few.

>>51063306
People in the military are generally drawn to war stuff. Historicals are more for nerds

>>51063324
It was at this moment that anons realize the normal term for green skinned fantasy crature is "orc" with a c.

>>51063230

My area is saturated with MTG, specifically edh. Finding anything else is impossible. I'm lucky if I get one game a month, and that's against a newbie with KDK.

That being said, he's super cool and paints his shit before he plays. I hope he got that blood thirster for Christmas.

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>>51063449
>>51063324
How do these threads even reach these levels of autism?

>>51063343
>>51063383

That makes sense.

>>51063355

I'd never play at a store in a big city. Everything I hear about them is that it's all fatass neckbeards who stink like ass.

Your best bet is to get a few people together and start a legit gaming group/club, just rent out a cheap office space or hall somewhere, charge everyone a yearly fee to cover the cost of rent and other shit you'll need (club tables, terrain, a minifridge, etc).

You can play whenever you like without having to worry about store hours, you don't have to worry about making too much noise if it's late at night, etc etc etc. If your local store sucks and you can't do garagehammer than a gaming club is the objectively best way to go.

>>51063449
Ork is german for Orc.
I leave the reason for using that to you

>>51063474

>never have to deal with waacfags or "that guy" ever again

sounds mighty fine

>>51063449
Why the k tho?

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>>51063355
I'm sure you're gorgeous and smell like cinnamon and flowers Anon

>>51063571
Did that comment strike too close to home or something?.

>>51062797
Does anyone know how well 8mm lines up with old 6mm? I've got a mixed Imperial army I collected long after the fact that I'd like to use.

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Running across the battlefield hoping the enemy doesn't have any lascannons

>>51063470
Practice.

Why do GSC have mobile one man operated lasscannons and AM don't?

>>51063619
Because its a mining laser operated by a 3 armed mutant.

>>51063142
Probably a picture from the first mission which is Ad Mech vs Orks.

>>51063606
Iron Hands tactics if that wasn't obvious

>>51063571

If you've never walked walked into the wall of stank, then you're lucky Thankfully around here, it's really only the YGO people who stink, but my store literally had a smell policy. It was a major problem in the past.

>>51063628
Designed for a 2 hand hooman.

>>51063581
Infantry rules will come much later as FW doesnt want this to step on the toes of 40k so now they'll focus on knights and titans. If Infantry rules do arrive then if the rules are similar then I dont think it will matter much as long as you have the correct base size.

Not sure how tall Epic titans are but a Warlord in 8mm is about the size of a 40k Knight, 6".

>>51063638
Locally it's our MtG crowd who reeks.

>>51060424
fuck off with your meme list

>>51061183
Jesus, phone books still exist?

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>>51060433
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>>51063748

>>51063674

Well, I have 2 shops in my area. The one has the YGO wall of stank, and its B A D bad, and it hovers around the players. Saturdays are almost unbearable, especially in the summer. The magic crowd is remarkably clean because most of them are a little older with semi-decent jobs.

The other store has the smell policy. They're almost exclusively commander with a small Internet café attached. The players at this store are eerily cliche. Like, there is someone for almost every single stereotype associated with TTG, including "Kid who only wears a suit," "Insufferable blob with condescending tones," and "that one Asian kid." They're pretty cool, though. This is where I occasionally get my game with KDK newb. It's pretty chill.

>>51061339
HOW DARE MY DUDE DIE TO AN ANTI-TANK WEAPON... HE'S TOO COOL TO DIE LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!1!!!1oneone

>>51062330
Why? the wolves clearly had that shit coming. I mean it wasn't like they weren't hypocritical mutants... wulfen say high though