What is the dopest color for a magic sword?

>>51016083
Steel colored.

>>51016083
octamaroon

>>51016083
octarine

>>51016083
Clear

>>51016124
My nigga.

So, not OP, but serious question; has anyone else here tried to run a game where non-magical equipment is sometimes/usually superior to magical equipment?

For example, like Carrot's sword in Discworld?

>>51016124
The only right answer.

>>51016083
Aubergine.

>>51016083
Slight blue glow

puse

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>>51016083
Vantablack.

>>51016276
is that egoraptor

>>51016276
I think the best part is that his idea of "angel" prominently involves his collection of miniatures.

"Yeah, baby, you want me to fuckin' spoil you? See that Pinkie Pie? It's yours, baby."

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>>51016083
Just have one of each color.

A magic sword that makes you believe you are unbeatable

>>51016083
I'm digging that shade of blue.

>>51016439
>color

>>51016083

If video games tell us anything.

Rainbow Jap > Rainbow Western > Red > Blue > Gold

>>51016295
It is, he even tweeted about it.

I personally prefer a nice purple, green if it's nature magic.

>>51016083
Rose Gold

>>51016276
Ignoring your pic, Vantablack would legit be neat.

>>51016476
its magic ability is to express abstract concepts via coloration

I think it looks cooler to have a normal colored sword with a magic aura, or glowing.

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>>51016083
None.

>>51016276

>He decides to be yuor devil

>>51016083
Gold.
Fuckin' GOOOOOLD

>>51016124
Came here to post this.

>>51016124
My orangutan

>>51016276
>>51017487
Holy shit yes. Wish I'd thought of this. Also wish those fuckers would release the process.

>>51016478
The one on the left is Chinese

>>51016083
As this song says:

https://youtu.be/68ugkg9RePc

>>51016083

Ignore these faggots. Gold is always dope.

>>51018648
Gold is for fags. Silver is the only fucking answer.

Bronze and copper have a pretty nice color when they aren't covered in shitty turquoise rust.

Normal sword with some shiny-ass runes on it, colored appropriately depending on effect.

>>51016083
transparent orange

RUST!

>>51018049
>release the process
>implying anyone here is capable of creating carbon nanotube lattice work much less heat treating a carbon nanotube forest until it bonds to a surface without the material losing structural proporties.

>>51018648
It takes a very special person to pull off a golden sword. Know your limits and what works best for you.
Shining white generally looks pretty dope on everyone however.

>>51018049
We really were fucked with vantablack
From what I recall, two different companies managed to make it
The first one sold the rights instantly to some artistic cunt who prides himself on being "teh only one" and the second one works only ofr the NASA
SO it's at least 10 years to wait if one of them can be considered a brand title, or more

>>51016083
Purple
Its the color of emperors

>>51016083
The soft white-blue glow of Cherenkov radiation is pretty rad.

>>51016083
Greened bronze. Since old magic is almost always best majic a sword from before the iron age can be enchanted with some dopest spells from tmes casters and enchanter were few and had the acces to biger portions of the word's magic.

>>51017772
>he can't see octarine

>>51018812
They didn't sell the rights to produce it - he's an artist, not a lab guy - they just sold the rights to use it in his art, for millitary and commercial applications, they do it themselves.
It's also subject to a lot of export and import controls due to the production.

And they got to piss off a load of artists, which is kind of worth it

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>>51018813
It's also, not coincidentally, the color of pimps.

>>51016083
Purple or Black for some nice Void Magic or some Cthulhu bs like that

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>>51016083
>MFW the one sword page I follow had this pic uploaded and people had legit serious discussions about what sword was best for real life combat

Like seriously fuck, mate. Couldn't unfollow fast enough.

>>51016276
>>51017487
The fuck is Vantablack?

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>>51019357
>people had legit serious discussions about what sword was best for real life combat
>real life combat
>with decorative swords
I didn't need this.

>>51019373
Some mixture that makes a super dark black that's way overhyped.

>>51018736
That only works for chainsaws

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>>51019373
It's a material so black that any image of it I link will look shopped.

>>51016083
Something glowy. Sting was bitchin. Burning runes are also dope

>>51019357
I know nothing about what makes a good sword and shit IRL but I wanna say the one on the far left would be best?

My personal preference is to have magic swords look like regular swords, like you can't even tell that it's magic until you either use it, have it used on you or study it with some magic.

Sometimes they're good quality swords, other times they're worn and used swords, but always swords first and foremost.

Then, sometimes I like to mix it up with fancy and magical looking magic swords, but those are never meant for combat, and any magic they have is of the non-combat kind, more useful hanging over the mantelpiece or during ceremonial functions.

>>51019412
that must be shopped: no goblet would have such a tiny base

>>51018813
very wrong translation.
if you're refering to the roman imperial color "purpura", it's crimson, not purple.

>>51019383
The worst one was one dude going "I'll pick the two-edged one because when the one is blunted from all the fighting I can just flip it around"

>>51019429
They're all equally shit, mate. Only use them when you have nothing else to defend yourself with and only until you have an opening to run away.

>>51016083
Really magic swords should be made of materials that aren't even metal, like glass or bone.

I've personally been toying with the idea of an immortal BBEG having a legendary magic sword, with a bunch of differing opinions and stories about its appearance or what it's made of, and for it to turn out in the end that it's just a simple, beat up bronze short sword.

>>51019429
they got rectangular grip cross-section, wich is already an incredible improvement from most of the stupid decorative swords, which means they might actually be a slight bit useful.

still, they appear way too thick, and so logically, overweighted, looks like it's stainless steel, which means it's pure shit. Probably unbalanced as hell, and I would be more than astonished if they even considered a bit the hilt's vibrations.

As far as "the less horrible goes", I'd choose the far left one as the shape of the blade looks kinda ok, the three in the middle as they got some kind of a crossguard (even if it's more of an guard embryo than anything else, who the fuck creates a sword without hilt? O_o), and the far right and left ones as they tried to reduce the overall weight, although in a stupid manner.

TL;DR : five shiny pieces of shit.

>>51019429
I've once tried to find a decent answer to the question of "What are the advantages of single edged and double edged swords each and in what situations would they excell?" and let me fucking tell you, that was a rabbit hole of autism and shitposting the likes I've seldom witnessed.

>>51019646
bone body with glass edge. Might be worth a look, although you'll have to be very careful of the balance, be sure you got a 100% foolproof method to attach the glass to the bones.
Also you want the bone part to be as much one piece as possible and to conserve as much as you can of the original bone structure for your sword to be as solid as you can.

Metal's good.

>>51019665
if you wanted good and based answers to these kind of questions, I reccomand the youtuber skallagrim, especially his most recent work.

>>51016124
My librarian

>>51019646
I'm in a similar frame of mind recently. Really wanna do something where the PCs go looking for some ancient sword of immeasurable power which turns out to be the most rusted, beat-up, shitey looking thing they've ever seen.

It's still super powerful, just not as an actual sword.

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>>51018770
>implying anyone here is capable of creating carbon nanotube lattice
I'd go for a DSA-trilayer lattice lithography on monocrystalline silicon, followed by a high aspect ratio plasma etching and only then carbon deposition, if only because I want the sword to have good mechanical properties.

I could do that in the week if I had the time.

>>51019684
See, you're thinking about shit like "Structural stability" and "balance" on a Magic Fucking Sword.

It's made of glass, but in never breaks. It's made of bone, but it never chips. It's made of bronze, but it never bends. It's made of something that looks like flowing water, but it cuts like a knife.

The dopest magic sword isn't a piddly steel longsword some wizard did magic to, it's a sword that's made BY magic, OF magic. Something a hammer can't shape, that a forge can't heat, that a grindstone can't sharpen.

>>51019735
I'm also into the Kill Six Billion Demons mentality that there is a threshold of swordsmanship where you stop needing a sword, and starting BEING a sword.

>>51019746
>silicon
>sword
>good mechanical properties
U wut

>>51019848
>monocrystalline silicon
Heh its slightly harder than the hardest steel, but it chips easily

>>51016087

Interestingly, recent reports have shown that our idea of the 'proper' colour of a sword might be a relic of overzealous museum curators. It's perfectly possible purely through forging techniques to make a sword any number of colours, even more with treating the blade.

>>51016124
My brother of Howondalandic origin.

>>51019695
Is that another one of those guys talking out of their ass like Lindy, or does he actually know what he's talking about? I've become a bit wary when it comes to guys on youtube talking about weapons and history.

>>51019953
He's a fat nerdy scandi that moved to Murrica or Canada or something new world-ish and does regular test-cutting vids where he states what type of weapon replica from which retailer he uses in what circumstances so I'm pretty sure he's /tg/s best friend.

I don't remember him doing a video on single vs. double edged, though.

>>51016184
>For example, like Carrot's sword in Discworld
It was magic sword, in a way.
For example in "Last Hero" Cohen had +5 magic sword, but Carrot had class ability that made his sword a +6 magic swords, because story demands it.
It is like a wizard casting magic item on sword and giving it +X bonus, the spell does not work on already magical weapon. In that situation using non-magical sword is better then using lightly magical.

Also all things in Discworld is magic

>>51019860
Isn't chipping a representative of hardness? Like, all the rocks on the hardness scale can mark rocks below them. Is that not the same as chipping?

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>>51016083
Is "On fire" a colour?

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Weathered is the only appropriate answer. Heafty and worn with time, stained with the blood of its unquenchable lust. Only flashy faggots need something that looks fancy, real men prefer practicality and something visually intimidating.

White < Green < Blue < Purple < Orange

>>51016083
Rainbow.

>>51019953
He began in his early years as >>51020040 described.
Nowadays he actually began sparring at suite a good level and got its shit together.

>>51019747
Tes, even for a magic sword, balance is important, because, even if it's magic if you can't fight for shit with it, it's rather useless.

But actually, I was rather tginking on how to male a non magic viable sword with those materials.

>>51020144
This Emprah is on FIRAAAH

>>51020692
Look up Aztec weaponry. They didn't have metal, but they did have wooden paddles that could chop a horse's head off. You see, instead of metal, they'd edge their weapons with volcanic glass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_warfare#Equipment

>>51019373
It's a synthetic pigment that is super-duper light absorbing. So it's literally the darkest black you can possibly dye/paint anything.

The *weird* part though, is that a single random artist signed a contract with the people holding the patent on Vantablack's production process, saying he's the only person who's allowed to purchase the shit for the purposes of making art. A large number of professional artists are fucking pissed about this.

>>51021129
Let me guess, none of them even tried to offer him style lessons to "improve his artistic repertoire" for $80 per session.

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>>51021184
So I don't know anything about the artist himself, but I somehow doubt he'd give any offer a second thought even in an area that'd really pay off

>>51021129
Its not actually a pigment, you can't paint with it so much as you can coat things with it.

Someone in response to his exclusive contract though, made the Pinkest Pink and requires anyone who buys it to not give it to the Vantablack guy. And then made a pigment only slightly brighter than Vantablack.

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>>51021493
>Black & Pink
Outside latex I don't think I've ever seen those colours together

Colour Wheel dudes, hit him where it'll actually hurt

>>51020121
No, chipping means that your material breaks before reaching plastic deformation (within elastic deformation domain).

>>51021690
Its not about mixing black and pink, its about two color people making the brightest most pure colors as hard as they can at each other.

It should be determined by the kind of magic it is and the material its made from.

>>51021726
I understand that, but my point was that banning Vandablack guy only affects him if he wanted to use the pink.

Sure it's a dig and he deserves it, but it doesn't affect him as anything more than an insult, since unless he was doing a power rangers memorial, he'd have no use for it

>>51016083
I always like that black that shines purple or blue. It also nice for night missions in where steel and silvery metals are very obvious.

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>>51016083
VantaBlack™

>>51021774
No, banning the Vanta Black guy was about "FUCK YOU, YOU CAN'T OWN A COLOR. EVERYONE IN THE WORLD CAN BUY THIS NEW PINK EXCEPT YOU, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!"

>>51021493
Wait how'd they get pink?

Black is the absence of colour so that makes sense, but pink? Where are we on white, blue, red & yellow?

>>51021793
Exactly, but it doesn't really affect him beyond the insult of it. Even if it is justified.

I'm repeating myself

>>51021795
Okay, maybe I fucked up, since nobody is getting this.

Anish Kapoor got an exclusive contract for VantaBlack.

Stuart Semple thinks that is bullshit, and released AN ENTIRELY UNRELATED COLOR PIGMENT PRODUCT called The Pinkest Pink, and stated that by buying it, you agree to not be Anish Kapoor or give Kapoor any.

Kapoor got his hands on some anyway.

Semple then made Almost-Vantablack just to piss off Kapoor

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>>51021835
I love that to fuck someone over they went for pink

Like nigga please, get some taste

>>51021835
So it's not the Pinkest Pink in the same way VantaBlack is the Blackest Black, it's just named that?

>>51021835
What does Almost VantaBlack look like in comparison?

>>51021875
He didn't make Pinkest Pink in response to the Vantablack thing, he just happened to also be releasing a color that is Intensely The Color It Claims To Be.

>>51021886
https://culturehustle.com/products/pink-50g-powdered-paint-by-stuart-semple

Well no, it doesn't break light the way Vantablack does, but people with eyeballs and understanding of color do say that it can be described in no way other than pink.

>>51019879
Wasn't deep blue plate armor actually rather common during a period of history because it turned that color when heat-treated?

Fucking artists

>>51021835
>>51021904
...Well then, I cannot find a source that AlmostVantaBlack is a thing, only a tweet that appears to be Stuart Semple with Vantablack on his fingers.

Semple has also released The World's Glitteriest Glitter and banned Kapoor from having any. https://culturehustle.com/products/the-worlds-most-glittery-glitter-75g-diamond-dust-by-stuart-semple

>>51021835
>>51021875
>>51021886
>>51021904
>>51021988
see
>>51021787

It's a ball covered in vantablack.

It absorbs 99.965% of all incoming light, which is already crazy enough as it is, making things look two dimensional.

Makes you think if Black Holes are actually just photon eating super beings

>>51021793
Technically, vantablack isn't a color. It's a microstructure.

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>>51022086
That's unique in it's colourisation. It is the only way to attain that colour

Technically, until a replication or alternate is created, by being the only one who owns the means of VantaBlack he also owns the only means of VantaBlack's unique shade of Black by extension

>>51022153
>That's unique in it's colourisation. It is the only way to attain that colour
Give me one fucking week ffs

>>51022086
Doesnt owning the thing and not letting it be distributed just because yo wanna paint shit black a stupid move? I bet you can use a thing that sucks almost all light into it for some good mechanical purpose.

>>51022178
>I bet you can use a thing that sucks almost all light into it for some good mechanical purpose.
What for ?

>>51022153
As stated previously in the thread, he doesn't own the means of production. They sold him exclusive rights to use it for art, but he doesn't have production rights.

Of course, the instant someone else develops a cheaper way to produce vantablack and copyrights it, his exclusive rights are effectively worthless since they're only in regards to that one supplier.

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>>51016083

Covered in the blood of your opponents

>>51022178
>>51022200
It was originally developed for the military and technically cannot be exported without a licence.

>>51022200
For any purpose that something cant take light or light interferes with it. If the thing sucks light, it is also quite a good shield against it with some tweaking.

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>>51016083
>What is the dopest color for a magic sword?

Cosmic.

>>51022237
Any solid object can block light, and coating the object with vantablack doesn't make it block light better. You'd get no benefit in that situation.

>>51017772
>invisible swords!
>wait, I dropped them

>>51022237
But normal black paint would do the trick.

In fact I know the answer to my own question but it doesn't use vantablack, only black silicon.

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>>51022175
You've got it

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>>51022208
So what do the government do with it?

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>>51021969
The tempering of steel can turn the surface various blue hues. The exact hue will depend on atmosphere, temperature, heating time and exact composition of the steel.

Hardened armour wasn't always very common though. Hardening is a pretty sensitive affair, where messing up can result in steel much worse off than it was before. Quench too severely and the time will be destroyed. Not enough tempering and it'll be horribly brittle. Temper too much and it'll end up softer than it originally was. As a result, proper hardening appears to have been rare even for sword blades until the very end of the middle ages, with the most common medieval approach instead being he safer but less potent slack quenching.

Now to go for the heavy generalisations, armour will lean more on toughness, and weapons more on hardness. In addition, proper hardening requires you to get the entire item to a very even premature, hard enough with a sword blade, but extremely difficult with something the size and shape of a breastplate or helmet. Armour is also more frequently made of low carbon steel or armour, and as such cannot be hardened, compared to weapons.

As a result, hardening of armour doesn't really come into play until around the start of the 14th century, when it starts popping up with the highest end armour of some of the more technologically accomplished Italian makers. It then spreads north into Germany (and around in Italy), but in both cases remains something mostly for the higher end armours (still, more makers competing means more available and lower prices, compare with how new features in cars pop up in the high premium range and then starts trickling downwards), with the bargain bin stuff remaining plain iron.

>>51021969
Only stainless does that.

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Now ca 1500 fashion starts to call for top end armour to be blued and gilded, or just gilded to hell and back. That's a problem if you also want hardened armour. Now your tempering must also produce not just any blued surface, but one that's even and aesthetically pleasing. The customer may also ask for some other heat-produced colour. If you don't get both the look and the temper right at the same time you're screwed, fixing one will ruin the other. Gilding adds stone to burned, because the way to gild in those days was to apply a mercury-gold paste, and then heat it to evaporate the mercury. This too had to be the same heating step as the tempering, or something would be ruined.

The Italians didn't manage to do everything in one heating step, and as a result they stop producing hardened armour almost overnight. They also quite rapidly abandoned the use of medium carbon steel for armour, going for mild steel and iron instead.

A few German makers, thanks to very close co-operation between the armourers doing the hardening and the goldsmiths who did the gilding, did manage to figure it all out, and could produce hardened armour that was also at the peak of fashion. Still, hardening was gradually phased out through the 16th century, with the amount of medium carbon steel used also decreasing, so that as the 17th century rolls around steel is a rare thing in European armour.

>>51022261
You can also coat it in the color o hide the object features, so someone else cant steal your shit by just taking photos and lucky guesses.

Say you made a new type of hidraulic arm with some new, hi tech but really easy to make tech. You still cant make a patent for the thing or its made fto go to the front line and you dont want people stealing your design. You paint in that color that has no actual shade and the machine/arm/weapon/wathever appears in every photo as an unlockable character.

>>51022301
Probably the same thing they do with all the other absurd bullshit they cook up and lock away. Absolutely nothing, then fill twenty warehouses with the stuff on the off chance it ever becomes useful.

>>51022301
I imagine put it on Planes & boats.

And when the fuckers become reliable, drones.

Hell for all I know they could stick it on projectiles and watch motherfuckers try to develop the new cancerous dance

Or the logical conclusion would be to coat a drone carring a nuke that's also radar stealthed and engage the era of Stealth Nuclear Strikes

But that's like 30-50 years out because Drones are shit

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>>51022301
Stick it on their police uniforms and ask just how black does a life matter?

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>>51022313
Gilded and heat-blued armour, made 1586 in the Greenwhich workshops for George Clifford, third Earl of Cumberland.

A bit early for stainless.

Possibly slightly browned by the passing of a few centuries?

>>51022348
>I imagine put it on Planes & boats
Good job having the best contrast out there while also heating like a motherfucker due to the dissipated light.

>>51021476
He's Amish Kapoor, author of the Cloud Gate. He's been working with pigments since the very beginning of his career so I kinda understand his obsession.

>>51022329
Keep in mind the price tag for even a square foot of vantablack is enough to power London for a few days. Coating an entire vehicle with the stuff is out of the question.

>>51022348
You know it's not invisible, right? It's just so black that it looks like a 2D silhouette.

>>51021988
Semple really hates Kapoor for that exclusive use thing doesn't he?

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>>51019665
Storytime?

>>51022425
>Coating an entire vehicle with the stuff is out of the question.

Considering what went wrong with the Hubble telescope's main mirror I suspect it may be more useful to coat the inside of optical sensors with in order to minimize unwanted reflections.

Or you make paint a thermistor with it and get a light intensity meter due to its willingness to turn incoming light into heat.

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>>51022398
>>51022425
I'm not talking in the middle of the day. You'd put it on something that operates in a limited fashion. I'm not claiming that Hugo Boss would go full VantaBlack on the military, but if you don't want something to be seen in the dark, VantaBlack has a use. It might not be the most useful coating but it has it's uses. Nothing I've said was wrong

>>51022384
Could have been impurities. I don't know if chromium could be accidently introduced during the forging process.

>>51022488
Yes that's about the main use of any superblack material.

Also solar plants use light-absorbing materials as well.

>>51022301
>>51022348
Are you all dense? There is an incredibly obvious solution:

>Us it for solar panels.

BAM, you suddenly have a substance that absorbs more light than any other, and use the heat to produce energy. Where do I get my nobel prize?

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>>51022485
He larped like an amatuer and was too afraid to cut himself a whole bunch of times.

I mean he obviously didn't get funding to make a documentary to go an ask people who could actually tell you

>>51022523
You one post late my friend.

>>51022511

>>51022511
Could you make the goofiest looking combat armor exterior coating? I know this has basically no real scientific or useful military application, I just hope one day we see footage of a test of the stuff as a coating on kevlar to see what it looks like when a human looks like a disembodied head and limbs around a flat black core.

>>51022523
Sorry, >>51022511 get it first.

>>51022453
I kind of wonder how Kapoor got the rights, other than working with pigments all his life, and being good enough at it to have a knighthood.

Maybe he just asked first.

But yeah, it really seems to have gotten Semple's panties in a twist

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>>51016083
Steel colored.

Invisible. The best weapon is the one your enemy won't see. For example a spool of monomolecular wire that unwinds and straightens into a hard cutting edge through application of carefully shaped electromagnetic field.

>>51022502
I don't think you understand just how black vantablack is. It's so fucking black that if you set it against the night sky, it contrast with it and still be visible. The sky would look purple in comparison.

Also, painting objects black to hide in darkness isn't the best idea. They'd still contrast, because nothing else around them is black and it doesn't fade the same.

>>51022511
>>51022523
>solar panels
>one square foot costs enough to power london for a few days

You'll never make your money back.

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>>51022523
Explain that shit nigga because it's obvious nobody in this thread is gonna google this magiblack nigganology

>>51016338
He's obviously got mad cash if he can afford all of those. I'd let him spoil me.

>>51019646
My party had a magic dagger made from whispers and lies. Shit was neat.

>>51022576
Why not a monowire whip with a weighted pebble or something on the end to give it the mass necessary to make it do the motions right? I mean that sounds incredibly dangerous if you mishandle it but would be longer ranged.

>>51022598
So lavender then?

>>51022502
>but if you don't want something to be seen in the dark, VantaBlack has a use

A normal black is pretty bad camo in the dark, because it'll tend to be even darker than all the non-black shit around you. VantaBlack should be that, but even more so, ie worse.

A combination of matching the hues around you and breaking up the shape is the way to go regardless of the intensity of the light around.

>>51022523
So it costs and arm and a leg per square inch, and you want to use it for stuff that should be acre upon acre. Good luck breaking even.

>>51022609
How much money does Kapoor have?

>>51022589
The more light a solar panel absorbs, the more energy it collects for processing. Vantablack is made from carbon nanotubes, which tl;dr the color absorbs more light than anything else known to man (aside from a fucking black hole but you get what we're going for here).

>>51022580
>You'll never make your money back.
You need less than 100 square centimetres of it for that, with enough mirrors.

>>51022608
Like a semitransparent purple hologram that gets less visible the more you focus on it, so yeah.

>>51022580
>You'll never make your money back.
Oh, petty bourgeois, has your capitalism failed you?

Over time, you paint a large quantity of these solar panels, slowly retrofitting the roofs of your buildings into vast solar farms, and use the return on investment you get by selling your normal power off to thirdworld shitholes for exorbitant prices.

Start small, grow big. It's the Ghave of economics. You don't even have to paint the whole thing, just have a small area, reflect the light back into it, and suddenly you're richer than those oil barons.

>>51022600
If you're working with the not-magic-honest! technology necessary to make that wire not snap off, sinter itself together, self-immolate, or otherwise cease to be what you want it to, you can just image it being as stiff as you want, whenever you want while you're at it.

>>51022636
tropes be tropes

>>51019665
I am, to this day, convinced that the only correct answer to "Which sword is best?" is "Whichever isn't a display piece and which you know how to use best."

>>51022625
As retarded as I know this is, we are on /tg/

But while it'd be far removed from VantaBlack coating, it's giving me the idea trying to pseudoscience a light stealing grenade

>>51022631
>>51022641
Maybe...? I'm not going to give a flat-out yes or no to that, because I don't work with the stuff and we've already hit the limit of what little I know. But follow your dreams anon, the worst that could happen is bankruptcy in scientific notation.

>>51022641
Except that you are way better off choosing the material that absorbs only 99.5% of the light, because it is a thousandfold cheaper.

>>51022680
Well economically speaking this shit is going to get cheaper and more widespread eventually, so it's not like it can't be viable one day, just not today

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>>51022680
>the worst that could happen is bankruptcy in scientific notation
And then a lifetime of selling your name to help shill crap. It's the American dream!

>>51022699
Semantics. Over time your production costs go down as technology gets better. Eventually, if you can get virtually 100% absorption, we'll ascend to post-human planthood.

>>51022676
A smoke grenade with vantablack would probably be against the geneva convention tho. Nanotubes are heavily cancerous.

>>51022725
That's still pretty interesting though

>>51022625
>>51022631
Regular black paint reflects about 2.5% of the incoming light.
Vantablack reflects 0.035%, only 1/70 of the regular paint!

Except it isn't the reflected light that matters here, but the absorbed light.

97.5% for regular black.
99.965% for Vantablack.

So what do we get from paying for Vantablack? An increase in absorption of 2.5% Whoop di fucking do.

>>51022239
So, sort of a cyan color, judging by the pic?

>>51016083
The most boring shade of grey possible, just so you can see their face when it causes their wounds to burst into flame.

>>51022754
Exactly.

Not to mention solar energy is a bit shit.

>>51022754
>he doesn't understand that less loss = greater efficiency
Look anon, I get that you haven't had your coffee, but this is real simple. That 2.5% absorption means you convert light on equal terms to energy. You're literally taking the ambient energy from the sun, and converting it almost completely to usable energy. This is the stuff of perpetual motion, of never charging your cell phone, of having unlimited free energy for everyone.

Sure, I'm using hyperbole, but lossless conversion of energy is pretty much the holy grail of science.

>>51022725
Yeah, as for as your lungs are concerned, one tiny fibre is much like another, whether it be pure carbon, or asbestos. People rarely seem to remember that when gushing about nanotubes.

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>>51022725
No shit? Geneva Convention aside I'm surprised it's that plausible

>>51022806
I don't think you understand this shit at all. Your turbine turning the heat you generated into power only has a 60% yield so whether you use black paint or vantablack may only change the yield of your setup for so long. In the end you are still limited by the amount of light per sqm.

>>51022814
Just like one of my professors once said :
>asbestos would be the most perfect material ever, if only it didn't gave cancer

>>51022806
All you're doing here is converting to heat, and lossless conversion of heat isn't a holy grail, but the inevitable march of entropy. Heat is the losses.

Now once you've warmed up your absorber, you have to turn that heat into something useful, and that conversion sure as hell won't be lossless, and the VantaBlack isn't going to be involved in it at all.

>>51022824
The pitch black smoke would be confusing as shit and be heating pretty hard.

>>51022806
>but lossless conversion of energy is pretty much the holy grail of science

and converting light to heat isn't how solar panels work, dumbass

>>51022897
Not to mention the billion uses of PCB.

>>51022921
>>51022914
>>51022876
You're all missing the point. It's like Magic the Gathering. We're printing one part of the combo engine, and the other parts will advance sufficiently in time, while interaction is stimulated by the mere existence of the facilitator.

>>51022954
>It's like Magic the Gathering
No, it's real life my mine. There's no actual combo there.

>>51022978
You'll see when VantaPannel SolarBlack also sounds cool is topping all the major tournaments, and WotC has to issue emergency bans to one part of the combo, before capitalism itself crumbles.

>>51023023
What about just making nuclear plants ?

>>51023049
To be fair, I'd rather nuke plants, but post-modern hippies love the concept of "green energy" and you could spin the whole thing into really good publicity, even if it fails spectacularly.

What I'm trying to say is, I want to be a maniacal totalitarian dictator, and I'm going to use these panels and vantablacks to enslave the world.

>>51022556
Just because James Bond has a licence to kill doesn't mean he's not a bad person for killing an innocent in cold blood.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean its cool if you do

>>51022556
To be fair, the concept of owning a colour could realistically be the plot for a pixar children's movie, or a kickass annimu videogame.

>>51023049
People have a weird fear of nuclear power. Lotsa hate mongering and resistance from established oil and gas companies poisoned them in the minds of citizens.
Add on the fact that there HAVE been serious incidents, and, well...

Another thing is that turbines and thermodynamic power devices have a maximum limit. Let me go find my notes on this, so I can express it more clearly.

>>51023096
>green
>putting VantAsbestos everywhere

>>51023129
Don't look too much, it's about 70% at best for turbines, and around 50% for the best photovoltaic panels

>>51023129
>people have a weird emotion. then later comes a FACT
Welcome to Post Truth America, folks.

>>51023148
Remember, green is just a colour. Seal it in yadda yadda, then show a bunch of children and puppies frolicking around in solar fields filled with strawberries and diversity. I bet not a single person complains until it's too late.

Alternatively,
>b-but muh Hiroshima and Chernobyl fearmongering

>>51019408
Underrated

A magic sword should look like a blown up balloon sword and be super embarrassing to yield, but then do fuck huge damage.

>>51023167
The incidents with nuclear power are the result of incompetence and malfeasance on the part of people in charge of the projects at a very high level.

For comparison, BLEVEs kill people just as dead, but can be triggered by a hell of a lot more stuff.

>>51019665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWObVxQ5to&ab_channel=scholagladiatoria

Matt Easton has done a video about it. Arguably the best of the "big three" medieval weapons channels (Scholagladiatoria, Skallagrim and Lindybeige), at least in my opinion. He's the only one of them I still follow actively.

>>51022485
There's not really a story in this. I was curious what the advantages of the designs were and got surprised by the sheer amount of wrong information, butthurt and autism getting flung around on boards and websites centered around the topic of weapons.
I mean, there's bound to be a fucking reason for using one design over the other in certain situations and time periods, but good fucking luck finding a straight answer.

>>51023494
It's simple:

>single edged weapons are made for linear chopping motions, with the reinforced spine providing increased impact resistance or greater chopping/slashing power

>double edged weapons are made for thrusting motions, and the fuller design often reduces the weight of the blade, so the person is able to swing it more deftly, while still being able to thrust

>In the end, it all boils down to whether you've got a shield or not. If you have a shield, use a single edged weapon because it will give you greater leverage and is more mechanically simple for inexperienced users. If you're using a double edged weapon, it's probably too big for you to use a shield, or you intend to hide behind your shield and thrust with it, in addition to slashing motions. If you're a weeb, use a katana.

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That makes me wonder - what would be a good enchantment for a sword that equates to these +1, +2, etc things?

Let's see... durability, for one. Making low quality metals closer to higher quality steel like we'd see today or better. Silver, for instance, could never be a good weapons material without magic. Lightness or heaviness beyond what they should have, for another. Incredible sharpness and good edge retention would of course be essential.

Perhaps better than that would be a blade that has some variable elements to those features. Like you can choose if it's dull or sharp, flexible or hard, and could mix up lightness and heaviness for a sword that swings like a light blade but hits like a heavy one. Also good: A slight "Autoaim" feature that directs your swings to match your intentions. Think of the vorpal enchantment as a masterwork version of the autoaim/cutting power features.

I think a sword that's almost weightless when swinging, heavy when hitting, tough as hell and with an edge that never dulls would count as a +X sword. Some level of all of those with varying skill levels would determine what the exact bonus would be.

Also the best colors are white steel and black mixed.

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>ctrl + f damascus
>not a single post
Shame on you anons. It's also something a real sword would have been made from.

>>51023670
Your favourite colour is Damascus?

>>51023125
Putting it that way, yeah kind of.
But it's THE DARKEST BLACK so he might not be a villain, just the only man capable of using the darkest black without endangering the world

But realistically he only has a proprietary liscence for art use, for anything useful it's just one company's patented nanotube coating of really-blackness.

>>51019747
>I'm also into the Kill Six Billion Demons mentality that there is a threshold of swordsmanship where you stop needing a sword, and starting BEING a sword.

I think Pratchett did it first (in Thud!):

>'Why do you carry no axe?' Ardent snarled.
>'I need no axe to be a dwarf,' said Bashfullson.

[...]

>Ardent jerked forward, axe raised. Bashfullson moved quickly, there was the thud of something hitting flesh, and then a tableau as motionless as the brooding figures around the cavern. There was Ardent, axe raised overhead. There was Bashfullson, down on one knee with his head resting almost companionably against the dwarf's chest and the edge of one hand pressed hard against Arden't throat.

[...]

>Bashfullson rose, looking shocked and massaging his hand. 'It is like using an axe,' he said, to no one in particular, 'but without the axe...'

Once you're sufficiently Dwarf, you don't HAVE an axe, you THINK an axe.

>>51023354
If I were addressing the details of your statement I would have addressed the details of your statement.

Instead I was addressing the values established by your statement, which is why I addressed the values established by your statement.

If it ain't octarine it ain't magic.

>>51023600
Except for all the single edged swords without a reinforced spine, that the type of attack you do will frequently be a matter not of the weapon but of what you can do given everyone's position, the double edged ones made primarily for cutting, that leverage is about forte/foible and doesn't give a flying fuck about edges, bucklers, etc.

Or did you mean simple as in "simple to show the kind of shit >>51023494 kept running into"?

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>>51023752

>>51022301
LIDAR-defeating stealthsats.

>>51021690
I get it. It's funny because she's Asian.

>>51023783
>Or did you mean simple as in "simple to show the kind of shit >>51023494 kept running into"?
I meant it like that. I just posted the most generic summary I could think of and I knew someone would say something about it.

>>51023354
The problem isn't the incidents, the problem is that fission plants are, if you actually run it down completely, inadequate and inefficient. Incidents are just immediately noticeable and thus more interesting to the public.

Coal is complete dogshit and blows out more radiation than fission by an order of magnitude, but that doesn't mean we should switch over to a less-dogshit-but-still-shitty option. It's just that none of the technologies we have right now would be a single monolithic answer and there won't ever be one anyway.

>>51024102
That's a sigh of relief then.

>>51022725
The Geneva conventions have almost nothing at all to do with what weapons you're allowed to use in warfare.

>>51022636
Quantum blade.

>>51024232
To specify the relevant conversation tons are the chemical weapons convention and the Hague conventions. There is an amendment to one provision of one amendment that prohibits the use of "indiscriminate" weapons, but it's so vague it doesn't actually affect anything, but was targeted at land mines, the actual treaty against those was the Ottoman treaty, but nobody would actually abide by that treaty in a war since land mines are such an important area denial tool.

>>51024337
>conversation tons
Thanks phone.

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>>51018675

Sorry, you are mistaken.

>>51016105
This

>>51016184
Carrot's sword is powerful, because it lack any magic. In world where everything is build by magic (and narrative) and have at least minimal magic aura. Kinda like Blanks and creatures with soul in Wh40k.

>>51022276
>Not having a method to summon your sword to your hands

>>51022502
Comments like this always make me remember Vetinari in his student days.

>>51023459
>Arguably the best of the "big three" medieval weapons channels
>Arguably
You misspelled "obviously".

What if you had vantablack card sleeves?

How much of a billionaire do I need to be to own vantablack-and-red dice?

>>51026139
I'd actually pay good money for a non-cancerogenus version of those dice.

>>51026139
"Vantablack is composed of a forest of vertical tubes which are "grown". When light strikes vantablack, instead of bouncing off, it becomes trapped and is continually deflected among the tubes, eventually becoming absorbed and dissipating into heat."
If I understand correctly, the tubes are very delicate, so you can't really just handle it normally without damaging it. So I doubt card sleeves would work, and dice certainly wouldn't.

>>51026258
What if you had like, a vantablack core with some clear shell over it? Or is the impact of rolling still going to mess it up?

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>>51016826
holy shit, I didn't even realise that was him, just thought it was a resemblence. No wonder this always gets a laugh in filename threads.

>>51022076
The dumb thing about people getting butt hurt over the "exclusive deal" is that its not a substance you can just or, or just apply to things

Vantablack is GROWN on a surface, at 700+ degrees Fahrenheit. its not a paint. The artist probably just makes a sculpture then sends it to the company to get blacked.

>>51026978
I googled it, and from what I've read, it's the COMPANY that is allowing only Indian-sounding-name-guy to use the vanta, not mr artist demanding that no others receive the privilege.
Artists just be mad jelly and don't even understand the situation

>>51026978
He still bought the exclusive rights to a colour.
Try putting that in any fictional setting while keeping him a good guy.

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>>51019408
>>51018736

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>>51016083

>>51019373
None more black.

>>51024407
>Made his sons (only sons!) in genetic vats, rather than hooking up with a girl

See? Gold is for fags.

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>>51019646

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>>51019576
>what is Tyrian Purple

>>51019535
>goblet
What do you think you're looking at anon?
These two objects are definitely not goblets.

>>51026978
VantaBLACKED.com

>>51026978
400 degrees.
The old stuff required 700 degrees.

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>>51016083
Rainbow

>>51019535
kek

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>>51029170
bruh...

If your world has the ability to make materials indestructible, or close to it, the ideal material for a sword, or any edged weapon, would be obsidian. After it's been magically made tougher, its own natural sharpness would be enough to cut through most things.

>>51022076
>Makes you think if Black Holes are actually just photon eating super beings

I mean that's not all they are but they do pull in photons past the event horizon

>>51016083
Gant.

>>51019746
And then I'm sure your boss would sit you down for a chat about wasting company/lab materials.

>>51016083
Octarine, of course.

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I'm a fan of purples and greens.

>>51030678
ayy lmao

>>51026478
>clear shell over it?
So you ruin the point of vantablack by putting something not-so-perfect on it ?

>>51032965
I'm pretty sure my boss doesn't mind. I already have one third of the process nailed down.

>>51032965
In R&D a man with honest interest in the field running couple pet projects on the side will always be worth more than man working with full focus but no interest.

>>51037230
>In R&D a man with honest interest in the field running couple pet projects on the side will always be worth more than man working with full focus but no interest.
Not to mention the lab always get a cut from the patents you develop

>>51028787

>Made his sons (only sons!) in genetic vats, rather than hooking up with a girl

What is the Illuminati?...

>>51016083
obsidian

>>51022509
Not in any quantity worth mentioning, no. The chromium simply isn't part of the bluing, if anything I'd imagine it'd prevent it, and as such you can blue steel that contains no chromium whatsoever.