Would it be possible to make an entire country of rednecks?

>>50989594
well USA exists...

>>50989608
>Eurofag detected

Try West Virginia.

>>50989594
No. If it were possible, the south would've won the war

>>50989594
if you just mean the culture and general mindset then sure.

If you mean like actual rednecks and their lifestyle then fuck no. It would be reduced to one of the poorest nations on earth in a matter of decades.

There's a reason most traditionally redneck areas are known for meth and not their industries nowadays.

>>50989594
Define 'redneck' as anything other than the last socially acceptable racial slur, then we can talk.

>>50990073
How is redneck a racial slur? You can't possible have this much of a victim complex.

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And island seems a bit more realistic

>>50990073
Its a classist slur as it doesnt refer to white people but rather a group of poor whites, poverty is the discriminating factor.

>>50990073
Nah dude, there are rednecks of all races. Rednecks are simply stupid people who take too much pride in their backwards traditions, poverty, and lack of education.

Some end up being nice people with flaws, quaint to visit but not for long. Others are the scum of the human race.

>>50990170
It means poor white people. So I guess it's also classist. Bourgeois WASPish types have a weird hatred for the Scotch-Irish of the South and places like West Virginia. Also Jews. Basically the urbanite fears the rural agrarian.

>Would it be possible to make an entire country of rednecks?
it's called Ireland/Highland Scotland

>>50990261

hola reddito

>>50990073

Redneck is a glorious lack of sophistication.

>>50989594
Everyone shits on rednecks but they seem to have low crime communities. While not being incredibly wealthy, they have tightly knit communities and everyone seems to get on well enough.

why the hate?

>>50990335
Endless meth labs and being money drains with government funding while simultaneously supporting the people who want to make it harder for them to find a job.

>>50990335
It is a socially rewarding signalling that makes city-dwelling Jews very happy. Hatred for salt-of-the-earth humble bumpkin types is staple media consumption. We have it in the UK with the white working class, rich liberal/champagne socialist Londoners despise poor whites.

Can I be a redneck?

>>50990405
That's what I always assumed. It was like, the people who talk the most shit about working class whites just seemed to be upper class Liberals while at the same time they pretend to think that low income hoodrat culture is hip.

I just don't get it, this world is retarded.

>>50990445
Because unfortunately, /pol/ is actually right in this case. Anti-white sentiment is systemic at this point. Bourgeois whites like to idealise non-white people as noble savages, or ascribe them pet-like status where they are not responsible for their actions. But for whites with less economic and social status, only real visceral hatred. Thanks Schlomo!

>>50989624
not euro sorry bud

Before reading the thread I'm going to take a guess that some funny guy made the extremely clever joke of
>what is America

>>50990562
Half the country by population is blue cancer, so no.

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>This thread

Literally no reason to be on /tg/.

Without anyone to compare them to, they'd just be an uncivilized culture

Isn't it just Orks?

>>50989594
Just check Kentucky. Or West Virginia.

>>50989624
American states rival many countries in size, and in some cases economy

>>50990263
>I think Ireland or Scotland are like they were in 19th century
Ebin meme

>>50990263
As an Irish person, go fuck yourself.
We have nothing to do with your poor. The Irish in the states are mostly in the new England area. Not the southern States. Jesus, learn your own fucking history.

>>50990998
Bullywugs, actually.

>>50991040
>>50991072
As another Irish person, this place is still a fucking mess, don't know about Highlands Scotland, though.

>yfw the government accidentally legalized every illegal substance for a whole day because they fucked up the gaelige

No, because underclass can't become this degenerate uf not supported by their betters.

>>50989693
Meth is an industry.

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>>50989594
They broke off and made their own country but it was destroyed four years later.

>>50991072
I'm English, buddy. Scotch-Irish are literal Gaels just like you, paddy.

>>50991162
I'm not sure you are aware how bad Ireland was in the past.
Why the fuck you think 1/3 of entire population went to Clappistan?

>>50991232
>Anglo talking shit about Gaelics
Eternal meme

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>>50989594
A loose delegation of rural folks who value personal liberty, moonshine and guns?
They could protect themselves with a militia, everyone has been using their weapons since childhood and know how to survive in the wild.
Sounds totally feasible. I'd build it.

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>>50991252
Post anymore and I'll poison your potatos again celtboi

>>50991232
>Scotch-Irish

No, that term refers to plantation people from Ulster, Ireland's northern province, of which mostly belongs to the UK, and is Protestant. Not very Irish.

>>50991267
... and then they get gassed

>>50991283
You do know there was a potato blight through out Europe? And the reason the Irish suffered so much was English landowners deporting our other crops to England etc. It's what caused the Celtic revival and outrage to form the IRA and does us to eventually become a sovereign nation, after the brits did a few more warcrimes of course.

>>50991162
Highlander here, we seem to avoid most of the degeneracy that happens regularly down south. I think Glasgow absorbs it all.

>>50991237
>literally lost our sovereignty to the IMF because of debt

New day, new villain. It's been that way since the first waves of Celts were fucking each other over.

>>50991342
Guess where those Gaelic Scottish people came from originally, after they supplanted the Picts faggot: hint, Northern Ireland

>>50991379
Based Anglia tbqh lad

Enjoy that """""""""nationalist"""""""" government with their third world non white immigration policies. At least those nasty Brits are out! At least our two peoples will be mudded out in a tide of Mohammeds and Jamals together, old friend

>>50990377
This.
Most of the redneck trash will hopefully be killed off by the opium epidemic, so they have less spawn who will breed and fuck over the next USA generation.

>>50991444

kill niggers off first - far worse

>>50991392
Anon, you have it ass backwards.

>england dominates ireland
>plants scots in Ulster
>that's why we have the horrible NI accent
>scotch-irish refers to scottish protestant plantations in ulster, many of which emigrated to america

>>50991429
Funny, because it's England drowning in former colonial subject, none of them white, all of them on welfare, while Irish are importing East Europeans for working.

Stay mad, Anglo. In 4 years Scotland is leaving.

>>50989594
russia is

theyre the florida of countries

>>50991359
Sshh Sshh.
Let the little people dream.

>>50991464
You don't understand the history and ethnology I'm referencing dumb-dumb:

>Gaels from northern Ireland invade Scotland, mysteriously the Picts vanish/are assimilated
>England colonizes Ireland
>England becomes Britain in union with Scotland
>Protestant Scottish Gaels from the western most regions are imported into Northern Ireland, from whence they originally came

Certain populations of Scotland are the same people as the Irish, and the Scots that planted N. Ireland are all Gaels - the same as the Irish.

>>50991463
8% of the population (black) versus 12-18% (poor white trash).
Math says I hope the poor white portion goes first. They are more of a drain.

>>50991549

better check crime stats first, ancap

>>50991508

Your non-white immigration is as high tho. Ireland is going to be BLACKED as Britain is going to be BROWNED

>>50991533
Never mind the +1000 years of cultural diversion that happened?
Are you having a laugh? Using that logic we might as all say we are French /German.

>>50991583
Moving goalposts, I don't care about slight variations in culture. The issue was about whether the Scotch-Irish are Gaels, which ethnically/genealogically they are.

>>50991533
Away with your Celtic unity bull. What's next, the Welsh are human?

>>50991549

>They are more of a drain

That the entire states of West Virginia, Tennesse, and Kentucky combined have a lower violent crime rate than Detroit makes me doubt this claim.

But you're more than welcome to continue hating on rednecks and denying reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPfOL4wUuMU

>>50990210
>group of poor whites
>poor whites
>whites

Sure buddy.

>>50991713
>Everything's racist!

Americans everybody!.

>wite bois trying to make it a competition of who can be blacked first.

Please don't fight amongst yourselves, there's plenty of my seed to go around. By the time I'm done your granddaughters are gonna be ebony goddesses, I promise you.

>>50991729

Liberal retards, not Americans. Most Americans are tired of everything being labeled as hate speech and want all these crybaby minorities and liberals to grow some thicker skin.

>>50991729
>everybody that disagrees with me is American

Sure buddy.

>>50991729
No no, anon, just liberals. Liberals exist in a lot of places.

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>>50991747

>not having a harem of ebony goddesses and having a stable of antique farm equipment

>>50991758
Hey don't go lumping me in with liberal trash just because I'm dark enough for them to worship me. I never asked for this.

>>50991747
A white male posted this

>>50989594
Most british-held parts of Mallorca are basically that, I heard.

>>50989693
>It would be reduced to one of the poorest nations on earth in a matter of decades.
It couldn't get worse than Africa.

>>50991828
I'm actually not sure if I qualify for whiteness. I don't identify as white in any case. I can however attest that I've been discriminated against both for being too white and for not being white enough, so I've got that chip on my shoulder.

But yeah that was just a shit meme.

>>50991885

Was your mom CHALKED by the BWC?

>>50991885
You're bi-racial?

I'm so sorry.

>>50991885
Damn, you've got a chip on both shoulders.

>>50991916
>>50991909
south american so no real racial stigma like what you go through in the north. Most people here are just matter of fact mixed in some proportion and it's not something that holds people back or has some fucked up social stigma like in america.

Didn't even realize I had a race to worry about until I moved to Florida.

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>>50989594

>>50989608
he's got a point

>>50992071
Only for edgelord euros.

>>50989594
Is that really a thing in USA?

>>50989594
Literally Australia

>>50990073
Redneck wasn't even originally a slur, but a sign of organized labor and solidarity represented by both the red tan and the red bandana present around their necks. It became a slur due to media stereotyping the negative aspects of mountain folk and now's been reduced to something one should be ashamed of rather than proud of.

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>>50991662

>drain on the country comes from violent crime

Pic. Most violent crime is committed by useless poor against other useless poor of the same race, regardless of which race it is. That is to say, most of this violent crime lessens the drain on the country.

>>50992475
and the taxpayers have to pay their legal fees, jail time, extra policing, etc etc.

>>50991549
If 8-12 % of american whites would die off then whites would be a minority and unless they start voting as a group like every other race their interests would not be even slightly protected. Even the blacks are being replaced by hispanics.

What is going on in this thread?

>>50992700
I don't think you understand how minorities work.

>>50992701
Politics on /tg/ as usual, everybody is being wrong and stupid.. I'm just here for the salt.

>>50992701
Sssshh, they're RPing /pol/


/tg/ = you don't even need the other boards!

>>50992701
/pol/ is bleeding again.

>>50992701

A /pol/ invasion

>>50992700
no race votes as a group you stupid fuck. hispanics contributed a major part of the vote for getting trump into office, especially cubans and south americans.

>>50989608
This man speaks the truth.

>>50989594
Like the USA, have there be two distinct types of people - red necks, and rich people. Just make the nobles and monarchy like the GOP (not saying Dems are good, just use the archetype of cheap asshole that loves God and guns) and the rest of the country work like the country in the USA.

The populace is relatively happy and very patriotic, they cling to their traditional beliefs and get very upset about change, and the rich people use them as cattle for their various schemes. The laws are very rigid, but the law enforcement gives passes to the locals while slamming foreigners.

It could easily work and be a lot of fun. Hell, I made Barovia be a lot like the south before Strahd invaded and they hold a lot of the old traditions. Made Curse of Strahd a lot easier to run as a Texan than trying to make it culturally like Eastern Europe.

>>50991883
Oh but it would. You have no idea.

>>50990335
People in the country get away with a ton of shot because they know the entire police force by name and there is fuck all out there. A drunk is driven home or spends the night cooling off, same for drugs. A guy that hits his wife repeatedly was a good guy that couldn't have killed her.

You want to see the country in the US, watch Making a Murderer. Regardless of if you think justice is served or not, just look at the life they lead and the relationship they have with everyone out there.

>>50991977
It's provable that race determines behaviour, to a certain extent iq, fertility, physicality etc but most important is the fact that racial diversity causes conflict and distrust and the breaking down of social structures.
Europeans who think it doesn't matter and don't understand why people divide themselves between racial lines are delusional and are actively moving toward their own destruction as a people, europe is pretty orwellian (as well as my home country) anyway so it doesn't suprise me if they think they aren't experiencing huge amounts of racial conflict.
We gain nothing from multiculturalism except burritos and sushi.

>>50989594
Australia.

>>50990073
Fine, we'll use jay faggot

>>50992833
Mate, look at the actual numbers. Just because a few hispanics or blacks voted trump doesn't mean the vast majority voted as a group for their own interests.

>>50992972
The vast majority didn't vote for anyone, including Obama. Minorities don't vote, and the one time a few more did it was 2008 and hit numbers fucking no one will hit for a long while despite what Bernie assholes think.

>>50991226
They shouldn't have fired on an american military base then.
They should count themselves "lucky" since the blacks would have taken it like Haiti if the americans hadn't reabsorbed their traitorous selves.

>>50992972
Didn't*
>>50992777
Yes white people will no longer be the majority in america very quickly if 12% of the white population died off since white people breed below replacement levels.

>>50992947
>autistic socially stunted basement dweller tries to see the world outside his blinds through shitposts on reddit and /r9k/

Keep shining, you retard diamond.

>>50993063
Stay uninformed cuck.

I get the feeling that /tg/ is a little upset that its leftist ideology is no longer in the paradigm of the majority of 4chan users.

>>50993053
So obviously the answer lies in the first thirty minutes of Idiotocracy.
>>50993087
I don't think you know what "paradigm" or "majority" means.

>>50992962
This

>>50992071
>How would zeus feel
Nigresses really don't understand any culture or mythology that isn't KANGZ AND SHIET do they?

>>50993019
So those who cared enough to vote did vote the way i say didn't they?
But according to pew, more minorities voted than in 2012 and every year before.

>>50993193

...I'm not sure if you're talking about the author or fem-cap there, but if you're talking about the latter then it's a true testament to the skill of the artist...

>>50993193
She's talking to a white man.

>>50989608
This anon has never heard of yuppies, apparently

>>50992888
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-25708024

>>50993214
Poor color choice is a skill?

>>50993100
I'll have to take your word on that one because i've never seen it.

>>50993087
>4channers get upset when invaders from other sites take over their home and attempt to impose their own values
man who would've thought

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>>50992071
>over a year later, people still take this panel out of context to push their agenda

>>50993250

A lack of skill, rather.

Also a lack of ability at drawing faces.

>>50993272
>someone states leftist opinion.
>/pol/ disagrees
Holy shit stop invading us!!

This isn't even /tg/ related i don't see how anyone's view on world politics effects discussion of what the board is actually for.

>>50993247
https://twitter.com/_floridaman?lang=en

>>50993272
This is my home as much as it is yours.
Don't you love multiculturalism :^).

>>50993318
>person from board states their opinion
>person not from board disagrees and tells them they are not welcome on their own board
you can replace 'board' with 'site' if you wish considering /pol/ is the newfaggiest board on this site

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>It's a "let's shit on poor rural white people" thread

Trump won, deal with it.

>>50993087
Go spam somewhere else, sissy.

>>50989648
>single datapoint
>isn't even relevant

Rednecks are an explicitly post-war creation. One of the several modern mischaracterizations of the American Civil is that it was somehow fought between rednecks and yuppies.

>>50993363
I am from this board though, i'm from a lot of boards actually.

>>50993379
as opposed to a "let's shit on poor urban blacks" thread started every five minutes on this site i suppose
variety is important, deal with it

>>50993408
whatever helps you sleep at night

>>50993417
>as opposed to a "let's shit on poor urban blacks" thread started every five minutes on this site i suppose

This has literally never happened outside /pol/.

It's more socially acceptable to make fun of poor rural white people than poor rural black people, besides the fact most poor blacks don't live in rural areas to begin with.

>>50993379
I don't need to deal with anything. I got my sixpack ready and my lawnchair. I am going to enjoy the coming four years. They will make the Bush years look like the most boring unfunny intelligent era in American history.

Pepe was right all along. The age of Kek has arrived.

Kekking at the expense of the USA, that is.

>>50993379
>>50993446
>Implying a rich northern guy from NYC itself becoming president means we have to stop making fun of poor rural people in the South.
The confedies are practically asking for it.

>>50993446
>This has literally never happened outside /pol/.
either you're lying or you haven't been on this site more than 5 minutes
>It's more socially acceptable to make fun of poor rural white people than poor rural black people
nobody cares about whats socially acceptable on fucking 4chan

>>50992347
>wasn't even originally a slur
Neither was "retarded", and yet...

>>50993469
>either you're lying or you haven't been on this site more than 5 minutes
Give me one example on /tg/ of a thread where people make fun of poor rural blacks.

I'll wait.

>>50993466
>>50993462
Yuppies fomenting civil war because they dislike a Presidential candidate is the most delicious irony.

>>50993512
>implying i am american ;^)

The need of you cucks to immediately put down anyone you suspect is one of your countrymen says a lot about you Trumpgoons. It is also one of the primary reasons why the next 4 years will be hilarious.

>>50993619
The need of my countrymen to make me laugh is none of my business.

The only reason the next 4 years will be hilarious will be because of yuppie fucks like yourself acting like the tinfoil-hat wearing rednecks you claim to despise. Irony.

>>50992561
You're an idiot if you think the costs of that come anywhere close to the costs of gibsmedats.

>>50993662
>keeps calling me a yuppie

Do you have some form of inadequacy that really frustrates you?

I'd love to be a white-collar yuppie fuck. I'd build the biggest army of beakies on the fucking planet.

>>50993662
>acting like the tinfoil-hat wearing rednecks you claim to despise
Except the don't think there's a conspiracy. They just think the current pick is a raging asshole.

Personally, I'm going to laugh when he does shut off the welfare and the southern states, who use MOST of the welfare, just immediately sinks.

>>50993725
At the moment the prisons in the US are all for profit so apparently even the blacks going to jail are doing some kind of economic good.
Meanwhile the southern american whites use the most welfare in the country by far. The northern states basically prop the southern ones up.

>>50993282
What's the context?

>>50993272
4chan has always been contrarian and reactionary. Why don't you just take a four-year break from this site and wait for the pendulum to swing back your way, if you can't handle opinions different from your own?

>>50993282
There is no justifiable context.

>>50990261
>Rednecks are simply stupid people who take too much pride in their backwards traditions, poverty, and lack of education.
This is anecdotal evidence, but in my experience they have far bigger real life smarts than the well educated intellectucals who are only booksmart (ie full of theories that don't work in real life and are stuck in their way as if they are all autists)

>>50994034
Yes, and? There are more types of people than "illiterate redneck" and "sheltered intellectual".

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>>50994034
Rednecks are basically economically conservative (but just as much on welfare) rural american blacks without the legal problems.
Everything else is EXACTLY the same, just through a different filter.

Oklahomafag here. Fuck you all, I would absolutely live in a Redneck-only nation. I've been a professional IT for 23 years, and have been my group's GM for 19 years.

>>50994034
Yeah your experience is retarded.

>>50990599
what about the red cancer ITT?

>>50989594
From what I've heard, that's Finland.

>>50993763
>Except the don't think there's a conspiracy.
>What are the "Whitelash" and "Recount" conspiracies and demands being bandied about?

>>50993763
>Meanwhile the southern american whites use the most welfare in the country by far. The northern states basically prop the southern ones up.
Last I checked, Texas was amongst the largest and most impactful of the "Donor States", while California is still a huge economic sinkhole

>>50994785
Finland is wierd. It is very highly educated.

Your average Finnish child that has just finished gradeschool is roughly on the same educational level as your average American high school graduate.

>>50994870
Texas is one bright light in a fucking sea of absolute useless waste.

That is how a Texan friend of mine explains the South.

>>50993763
>Meanwhile the southern american whites use the most welfare in the country by far.
Blame the Food Securities Act which has forced most of rural America into a federal subsidies fueled commodity market nightmare, one that forces the farmers to have to accept even more federal aid to make any form of profit, thus dooming them to a feedback loop of federal financial dependancy

>>50994881
I would think that being redneck has much more to do with lifestyle and mindset than education level... though you *do* have a point.

>>50994911
Well, I am European, and due to the technological changes in farming here, most farmers and rural people are in fsct the intellectuals etc.

You need to do at least some college level education to be a farmer here.

>>50991581
Which should be considered genocide.
Redhead genes are extremelly rare and genomically precious, niggers are a dime a dozen.

>>50994196
Rednecks also don't do stuff like suckery punch random blacks who pass by, or who group rape black girls, or excessively kill eachother over sneakers and other extremely violent behaviours.
The brutality that criminal blacks exhibit is actually terrifying because it shows such a complete lack of empathy.

>>50994983
the tons of readhead porn begs to differ.

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>>50989594

>>50995000
but whites post stupid and cherry picked arguments to validate their stupid xenophobia so whos worse?

>>50994983
Does red hair have any survival benefit or does it just look nice?

Because it does look nice, especially paired with green eyes. I'm not sure why.

>>50995008
I mean that anons a racist cunt, but there's hair dye out there anon

>>50994983
>he actually still believes the 10 year old hoax of red hair genes going extinct.

Kil yourself, faggot.

>>50993199
>minority populations are overcoming the white one!
>still surprised more minorities are voting.
You are literally retarded.

>>50993619
>4 years
8.
I come from the future, we're better off.

>>50994904
That's mostly because, following the Civil War, the South was left in cultural, economic, and developmental shambles due to the desire to cut reconstruction short, while Texas comparatively was barely touched much by the civil what, committed very little to said war effort, and most of its economy was based around beef production and well secured German Merchant families.

Due to the constant socio-economic problems and disparity foisted on the southern states due to both the the early hatred of the Republican Free Industry model following the war, the massive amount of debt forced on the Southern States, and the only growing animosity in social class issues due to lack of funding and management provided for education from these resultant things, which then fuel the racial tensions as many of the disadvantaged seek a pariah to vent their frustration on and minorities happen to be convinient for that. This left a large amount of the American South disadvantaged due to being screwed over on both an economic and social level, which results in, which soon became ingrained into their culture over time, as well as fed into Northern Culture through a filter, resulting in few industries seeing any incentive to build up in and provide opportunity in the South save for either specific cities, or places that were already economically stabe during and after the War, such as Texas.

Texas is wierd since they are more industrious and, in general, less religiously zealous than the other Southern states, so one should consider Texas to be "Schrodinger's State" since it rarely ever acts or fits at all with any of the Southern or Western States

>>50994904
>Texas
Texas has 4 cities making 100% of all the money in Texas. Anyone claiming the Texas countryside is doing anything is a grade-A moron.

>>50994128
Yes, like sheltered illiterate and illiterate intellectualoid.
Urban people are useless that's why it's so easy for mexicans to cross the border and make an industry of having fucking hands.

>>50994870
Which one has more jews?
There.

>>50995176
And those smart country folk want a wall that will likely increase the number of illegals in the USA, just like every similar effort before it.

>>50995037
>niggers commit violent crime
>b-but white people shitpost!! which is worse??
Still niggers.

>>50994976
The same is actually occuring here in the US. Most of the Redneck and White Trash communities here are no longer in agriculture, mostly due to the subsidies nightmare mentioned by >>50994910 along with being taken over by larger farming corporations that are able to pay meet the federal tax and production mandates and make money off of the subsidies by being able to buy fertilizers, Herbicides, Pesticides, and GMOs in bulk.

Most Agricultural people I know (and as a Wildlife/Natural Resource major I know a few) have at minimum a Bachelors degree in agricultural management, agribusiness, or something similar, since that's one of the only ways you can still stay competitive in the agricultural industry.

>>50995037
You're right, your own safety is stupid and you should definitely move into a majority black area to show how tolerant you are. Enjoy getting beaten half to death by three hoodrats like my best friends granny over $28 while your assailants get slapped on the wrist. Fucking idiot.

>>50995176
>Urban people are useless

How's it in flyover country? Enjoying all those benefits of large scale civilization? you know the kind of stuff that urbanization created?

"Them cityfolk" has been the refrain of every idiot since cities started existing

>>50993798
>>50993932
It's the idea that Hercules would feel shame about assaulting women. What stops him is the thought that he's becoming like his dad, who he hates.

Femcap, not knowing this, presumes Zeus is a paragon and thinks Herc should live up to his image.

>>50995037
...the guys who murder are definitely worse than the ones who cherrypick, you fucking moron

>>50995193
not with the way /pol/tards react to SJWs!

>>50995203
So for about 5,500 years now?

That would actually explain a lot.

Why are rural folk so easily offended? I've never met or talked to a redneck or someone from the backwoods who didn't have a massive chip on their shoulder regarding city folk and their dastardly ways.

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>>50995229
>SJWs
>People

>>50995039
Redhead genes prolong young-adulthood and imrpove resistance to cold, sensitivity to climate fluctuations, and tolerance to pain.
Black genes improve your chances of having diabetes and shit bones.

If people truly cared about diversity we'd be promoting childbearing among redheads and north-eastern europeans and gifting condoms to blacks and indians.

>>50995239
money

honestly it pisses me off to when I see some asshole drop 5000 dollars on a pair of shoes

>>50995239
The same could be said about """cityfolk""".
Personally I don't give a shit.

terveisin, Idort.

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>>50995198
>tfw already living in majority black area
>tfw someone tried to figure out my race in an ANONYMOUS imageboard

>>50992781
wait this is /tg/? I thought i was in a shitty /k/ thread.

>>50995055
Redheads are a minority, wanting them to mix with blacks is what is racist.

>>50995270
Congratulations, you played yourself.

>>50995270
how's that white pussy my man?

>>50995255
most /pol/tards became /pol/tards because an SJW shitposted too hard and blasted their booty

>>50995239
Mostly due to a sense of having no control over their own life or business, since chances are the folk from the state's major city(ies) and the politicking involved there is generally what determines most of the state "and to another extent federal) law that is set forth and implemented, and usually in the interest of said urbanite communities, leaving most people in rural areas feeling frustrated and with a constant feeling that the government that should represents them actually doesn't care anything about them, and will instead allocate everything to feeding into the urban economic machine which has led to the devaluation of both skilled and blue-collor employment and the exploitation of rural communities and resources by larger corporations that aren't even from the area, but are instead based in the major urban centers.

Like what those bottled water companies did to the communities in rural New England and other similar instances

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>>50995284
>tfw live in black area
becouse im DUN DUN DUN black

>>50990261
>Nah dude, there are niggers of all races. Niggers are simply stupid people who take too much pride in their backwards traditions, poverty, and lack of education.
>Some end up being nice people with flaws, quaint to visit but not for long. Others are the scum of the human race.

I actually agree with this sentiment, and don't care about being considered racist, but chances are you are not this self aware.

>>50995037
>post stupid and cherry picked arguments to validate
>acting as though that's an exclusive problem
I've seen both /pol/tards and SJWs cherrypick and parrot misinformation with the same level of veracity and force

>>50995228
both are stupid.
but only one of them annoys me on /tg/.

>>50995312
>tl:dr
Because city yuppies demand you feed them, but at the same time vote to take money out of your pocket to gift it to the most useless of the urban youths which in turn prevents you from accomplishing your function in society and ruins life for everyone.

>>50995359
hows life booty busted redkneckfag?

>>50995330
Congratulations, your race achieved mostly nothing over all of human history.
Hats off to you sir, it must take work to be proud of that.

>>50995367
fucked plenty of white bitches

>>50995367
oh no a faggot /pol/tard insulted my race im so hurt!!!!!!!

>>50994953
Well they did until the blacks became armed.
Why do you think the blacks are so angry at white people?
Now white people can't do that because the blacks would lynch them.

>>50995367
Congratulations, you feel the need to appropriate the achievements of your entire race because you have nothing to be personally proud of.

It must take work to be this pathetic.

>>50995335
>>Nah dude, there are niggers of all races.
This is true, there is a "nigger" slur for every race, the only difference is that blacks weren't self aware enough and they had to be called out by other races.

>>50995367
A black man with an engineering degree has more to be proud of than a white guy living in a trailer because that black man has accomplished something himself.

Going "muh-muh people!" Is a sign of individual weakness.

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>>50995415
It does, but I really try.
Now continue living a life with comodities enabled by the race you say opresses you.

>>50994870

>Texas and California are the majority of states

>>50995379
BBWs are not white women, they're a subspecies of marshmallow.

>>50995448
you know you could have just become a SJW and actually profit from having a big perpetual chip on you shoulder.

>>50995449
Texas and California hold the mayority of voters. If American democracy was a simple mayority vote, everyone would be as well administered as Commiefornia.

>>50995298
You speak from experience, I take it?

>>50995335
This is just blatantly false, because not even the most russian of white people behave like ghetto blacks do in the US. They're on a completely different level.

>>50995507
no just from all the /pol/tards who invade other boards, spout so much bullshit that they derail whole threads and go on ranting blogposts about how they became "redpilled", and that seems to be a common thread through them all

>>50995506

Okay, but that's not how it works. the electoral college still exists.

Kinda crushing your own points there man.

>>50995572

Dude, I've been to both Russia and the ghettos of Atlanta and Chicago, and I gotta say I felt way more scared in Russia. Both communities have issues with poverty and turn to violence and crime when standards of living aren't met, but FUCK does Russia have scarier addicts and (if you can believe it) more AKs than any ghetto in America could fucking DREAM of.

Crippling poverty makes human beings behave like animals, which, ironically, makes it harder to get out of poverty, and the cycle repeats.

>>50995572
>this delusion

>>50995152
Building on this, due the the problems in socio-economic class issues, which heavily fed and fueled most of the racial issues in the South (because honestly its wasn't too long ago that most of the Northern states were still incredibly racist, and to this day both Boston and Chicago are still pretty racist, and the only reason it stayed as strong for as long as it did in the south was due to the socioeconomic issues), if history hadn't turn the way it did with the efforts of LBJ and Nixon's Southern Strategy, I'd say that there could've been a real strong possibility of the South instead giving into communist/socialist thought, especially considering that it was in most of those states that many of the various Populist and Economic Progressive reforms started to manifest, as well as the South's solid history of supporting the Democrat Populist machine since forever. Really the only other reason aside from the previously stated political maneuvering that South didn't try to join in on the anti-bourgeoisie movement of the Cold War Era (which has affected most of American Politics since then, though that's been changing recently) was due to the the nazis setting up shop first by taking advantage of the racial problems and cranking them up more as well as pushing for anti-populist ideologies before the socialists could entrench themselves further in, creating a first come first served situation.

Heck, the fact that the South voted for Trump is almost mindboggling from a historical perspective, seeing as how he's a businessman from New York pushing for increase of Industrialization, which have almost been universally reviled by the Southern states until the last 40 years or so.

Honestly, now I want to see the AU setting where the Dixiecrat Split and Southern Strategy never happened, the South fell to Communist/Populist sway, and the North kept firmly to the Republican Free Industry and Market Complex.

Texas would become NA version of Switzerland

>>50995490
>>50995446
>>50995415
>>50995379
Well, he got your (You)s, so he clearly got what he was looking for.

>>50995676
>the South fell to Communist/Populist sway
I don't think that'd work just because then they have to accept being "equal" to all those newly freed blacks that take up half the southern population if not more.

>>50995708
>everyone who disagrees with me is a samefag

>>50995627
>comparing addicts to non-addicted people
Black hoodrats don't need to be addicted to just senslessly beat down people though, preferrably in groups. They just fucking do it for laughs or to make $20. You talk about "crippling poverty", but these people can still afford to buy $300 shoes, smoke weed, party. They lack empathy.

Russians have loads of guns, but they don't use them nearly as much as the US. And compare other ethnicities in the US with blacks, and you'll find that blacks are vastly, vastly overrepresented in violent crimes.

>>50995601
Everything itt is hypotheticals.
I hope.

>>50995735
where did i even imply a samefag.
Have you've been doing drugs again, Anon?

>>50995735
>>50995767

I can see how you read it that way, but he was referring to the guy who posted originally getting a lot of responses. Not that they're all the same guy.

You agree, no need to fight.

>>50995765
An occasional group of angry black hoodrats, which is a fucking tiny percentage of black people regardless, is a lot better than the russian mafia.

>>50995767
sorry man im on a shitposting roll, forgive me.

>>50995795
>moving the goalposts
So you don't actually have anything to answer with then?

>>50995721
Considering many of the smaller Communist regimes grew to power on the back of racial and cultural conflict, as well as said Populist/Communist forces being really good at lying and suckering people into shitty deals, it wouldn't be as unlikely as you'd think.

Plus you'd be surprised what issues could be put on hold for a little while when a powerful entity starts to promise you economic growth and opportunity, regardless of how impossible it would be for them to deliver.

Further said racism, while present and a problem, was still mostly inflamed to how people today imagine it mostly due to the Neo-Nazi elements that flourished there and the reformation of the KKK.

Without those two factors, the South would've gone down much the same political identification paradigm shift that Detroit and much of Northern Michigan (which was honestly just as solidly racist as the South, only with actual industry as well) did.

>>50995721
I am pretty certain that whites would have been much more welcoming of blacks being free if they had been giving another industry to sustain their lives instead of being left to poverty AND having to deal with a bunch of poor people who used to be the ones preventing everyone being poor by being exploited.

Hell if the black population had just been taken away somewhere else, the south would be much less racist. The racial tensions come from the combination of resentment and poverty. The struggle they were put through was not fair and nobody ever did anything to alleviate it, no wonder they're so hateful.

>>50995795
No shit Sherlock.
The problem is with blacks you don't even have to mess with them or their business to be attacked, you just have to be in their general vicinity.

>>50995815
I'm a different anon offering my own two cents though.

>>50995865
Which is fucking hard to do unless you're in Detroit.

>>50995865
so yelling NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER at the top of your lungs constitutes doing nothing to you?

>>50995765

A fuckload are. Another fuckload have a lack of parental figures because those addictions and a failing war on drugs tore the community to shit and treated addiction like a crime instead of a public health issue. combine that with a media that insinuates they're all 'superpredators' and they start to act like what they've been told to be, especially with a lack of guidance.

A great deal of black-on-black crime also stems from the drug trade, namely because you have fuck-all for economic opportunity (nobody hires you if you're viewed by society as a criminal before you even show up) and drugs are always going to sell. Another factor is that drug lords tend to be sociopaths, and they're the ones raising these kids because a parent is an addict or arrested or forced to work because the household was destabilized. Even an expensive healthcare procedure can fuck an entire family over for a generation, simply because of associated costs.

Violence doesn't stem from a vacuum. you can go on and on about how the blacks are feral subhumans, but the behavior of the criminal element in black communities is based on generations of institutionalized damages. If you want to deny that while simultaneously declaring "darkies aren't even people" you're laughably ignorant and, in fact, contributing to the atmosphere of skullfucking enforced superiority that's among the largest drivers for this social state.

>>50995840
maybe they could of just not base their entire economy on exploiting another group of people?

>>50995908
You act as if /pol/ has any interest in helping these people which is laughable.

Here's a badly kept secret. /pol/ loves nothing more than a video of a black/brown person chimping out and looking bad. They hate affluent well spoken minorities and their greatest wish is for every one of them to act like animals so their beliefs will become iron truths.

>>50995910
See, now this part is actually pretty funny because the South is against stuff like pay raises and worker's rights and all that. "Right to work" states and all that.

So essentially, they're still basing their economy off of the few rich people who could exploit the fuck out of the poor masses.

>>50995910
Blame the cotton gin for a crazy jump in labor demands for that..

>>50995880
>>50995881
You fuckers have never seen a black man in your lives.
My town's gang-related violence actually improoved when organized mexican crime came in and started dropping blacks

>>50995910

This was done primarily as a means of competing with the brits. Free labor produces goods that can undercut world markets. Also, human beings are shitty.

Basically, slavery was going to happen in America because of the social climate of the time and the fact that REBELLION JUSTIFIES EVERYTHING PERIOD. what needs to happen now is the defusal of such tensions. This isn't easy, of course, because you have a lot of dudes like >>50995572 are either being duped by white nationalists to think that division = power and superiority or they're looking for someone to feel superior to. It's not all on white folks, though. There's a lot of pushback from black folks because years of racism and an oppressive environment where you see, daily, that you get less than most other people for doing the same things you get outraged. Even unreasonably outraged. Then you raise your kids with that outrage in mind, and you have a generation that has a scapegoat (ironically just like the people victimizing them). Its the perpetuation of this hate-dichotomy that fuels racial tensions in American politics, and I think the defusal of that is going to be the challenge our country has to overcome before we can advance on a global stage beyond just being the guy with the biggest gun.

>>50995988
>Gang violence improved when it became full on gang warfare.
At least get your story straight before you post. And I've lived in the rust belt. Good ole' ex-rubber capital of the world

>>50995865
I was treated better in baltimore than I ever was in oklahoma

the few bad fights in baltimore I did get in, it was a white guy starting shit with me

>>50995954

I never said they want that, but many of them claim they do. It's a hypocrisy I always enjoy pointing out. They always speak from a perspective of benevolence but, in actuality, it boils down to "People who are different than me are the reason I suffer, and when they're gone all will be well" as if the neo-nazi hate machine would stop at one or two ethnicities. On some level they HAVE to know that, when discrimination and making enemies is your plan for expansion, you WILL find new enemies within and attempt to 'push them out', simply because it's part of the mentality.

>>50995881
>yelling NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
Well, the worst a black man can call you also happens to start with N...

>>50995910
Maybe the rest of the world could have not made cotton so profitable.
And don't think yourself above CW-era southerners, it's almost impossible that you don't use products and services that subsist on exploitation.

>>50995910
see>>50995152
The Southern economy was screwed from day one due to the industrial Growth of the North, and sadly for them economies and markets don't restructure themselves over night. Due to the lack of both willingness and means to enter into the Free Market Industrial Revolution that was occurring in the North, they were forced to specialize in the mass production of the crops and agriculture needed to sustain the growth up north, which in turn only incentivized the reliance on both slave labor, and later sharecropping, so when the North then dismantled their only means of economic relivancy and left the entire South in mismanaged shambles due to cutting off Reconstruction, this created a lot of hatred and resentment, which due to the lack of Northerners around, ended up instead being used to fuel their desire to take their hatred out on the blacks to vent their frustration from being essentially screwed.

Also, you act as though exploiting groups of people was uncommon, even after the Civil War, despite the fact that, even if it wasn't chattel slavery, exploitation of ethnic groups was still going on strong around the world due to the constant expansion of Colonial Empires around the world, even well into the early 1900s.

>>50995988
you need to get of the computer, infowars, /pol/, and briebart, and you will find the your problems against blacks mysteriously disappear.

>>50996050
Nazi?

>>50996022
>Mexicans kill local gangbangers and keep their own business as secret as possible
You assume there was a war, it was a massacre.

>>50996029

Russia guy here. Detroit was iffy sometimes, but the ghetto in atlanta treated me damn nicely. I never got into fights or any shit like that, never got robbed. One time I stepped on the shoe of some thug-looking dude and he got pissed, but after explaining it away as an accident and even offering to get him a cleaning kit, the dude relaxed and told me not to worry about it.

Meanwhile, my time in russia saw me robbed 3 times, one an actual mugging at the point of an AK.

>>50991758

You realize us "liberal retards" got more of the votes, right?

And I think it's hilarious that you think we're the ones who are so easily offended, when if we don't stand for a national anthem or don't make a big show of reverence towards the military, you guys go fucking nuts. You're just as easily upset, it's just that you care about nationalist and religious symbols rather than, you know, people's actual lives.

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>>50992306

underrated post

>>50996117

Based.

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>>50996090
>tfw cartelshills ITT thread

>>50996086
Neighbor.

>>50996138
wtf i hate blacks now.

>>50996063
My local problems with blacks dissapeared when mexicans came and solved them with bullets.
Black people in the workplace, in the gym, in the football field, on vacations, conventions and the LGS have mostly been enjoyable and I don't believe all black people ever are monsters, but I was personally besieged at my own house by black youth crime until it was violently cut out from my life.

>>50990335

Because they won't vote for their demagogues. They're rebels that need to be purged, but the party line technically doesn't allow such actions.

>>50991444
>>50991463
>>50991549

Why not have /all/ the poor die? It would solve unemployment and hunger and put a great load out of welfare!

>>50990335

There's a literal opiate epidemic sweeping rural white America, though, and it's proving to bring as much violence as the crack epidemic in the 90s did with black communities. That crime rate is going up.

Thanks, CIA

>>50996217
Why just let them die to waste? Can't we at least put them to some good use?

>>50995840
Yeah. Really one can trace back a large amount of the racism and cultural divide in the country to the day of Reconstruction and how poorly it was handled.

Because I sure can tell you that even in the Confederate South, it was only an incredibly small percent of the population that owned slaves of any kind, and they happened to be aristocrats, and even they spent most of the time selling the war to the rest of the South as one of infringement on property rights and sovereignty rather than on slavery (if if that was their main reason for pushing for it)

Sadly, they tried your idea with Detroit, which ended up failing miserably in the long run due to the fact that said place was already strongly filled with Confederate Sympathizers and turbo-racist to boot, and only became worse when the industrial complex, which had been one of the few things that gave opportunity and upward momentem for both minorities and racial integration, due to Ford Automotive not realizing that they had to actually compete in a global free market and couldn't rely on money from war defense contracts

>>50996098
Stop baiting retard.

>>50996217
someone has to flip my for me its a spicy mcchiken with medium fries and an ice cold coke

>>50995220
>Femcap, not knowing this, presumes Zeus is a paragon and thinks Herc should live up to his image.
That's why it's so funny. Zeus was the one flying around raping everything in mythology, and it's not as if the Greeks shied away from this.

>>50996192
>tfw your party won but you're still the victim somehow.

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>>50992071
Like dis.

>>50996217

This is unironically a great idea, but the shitty liberals would have us all believe that individual lives are sacred and all-important, even though there are literally billions of us. I think anyone requiring the assistance of the state at any point should be shot then and there. It would improve society a hundredfold.

>>50996183
the way you post makes you seem like you are a 50 year white man who gets scared whenever a black man shows up in their vicinity so you shitpost on pol to releave your fear.

>>50996217
Consumerist "have it your way" culture demands poor unskilled labor, which considering the "snowflake" culture of the current generation, which was inherited by the previous post-war generation, the status quo is going to stay the same

>>50996058
>Maybe the rest of the world could have not made cotton so profitable.

Funny thing is, until a black guy invented an improved cotton gin. cotton had far to high a labor cost to be profitable. Once the toothed cotton gin was invented one of the most labor intensive parts (removing seeds) of cotton harvesting became one of the easiest. Large cotton plantations became incredibly profitable when the could redistribute most of their labor force from seed removal to boll harvesting.

>>50996266
That is not liberal. Its more a Christian thing.

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>>50996267
>Black people in the workplace, in the gym, in the football field, on vacations, conventions and the LGS have mostly been enjoyable
>lul you are 50 year old white racist nazi demon shitposter /pol/lack
Are you literate, or projecting?

>>50996090
>Organized mexican cartels are preferable to the occasional black gangbanger who is far more likely to be safely away from you in prison than to be a threat to you in your white neighborhood.
Why don't you move to mexico then, at least they have more white admixture than black americans.
/pol/ is fucking retarded.

>>50996266
>Get rid of the bottom to middle class. It'll work for sure!
>wait, why isn't anyone running the stores? Why isn't muh amazon shipping going anywhere? And why isn't anyone cooking muh Mcfries?

>>50996266
John Galt pls go.

>>50996326

Robots will literally have every last one of those jobs in 20 years or less. In fact, they're already taking them. Shit argument.

>>50996319
>that "those are the good ones" mentality
>that celebrating that blacks where being killed just a few posts ago
/pol/tards have no shame do they?

>>50996350
Then who's building and controlling the robots? Plus I've worked retail. People want to work with and talk to people in customer facing jobs. At the very least that means cashiers remain a thing.
Though it sounds hilarious that middle management now needs an engineering degree just in case one of the robots fucks up.

It's a shitty idea that's as likely to happen as "everyone will be some shade of mixed brown in the future"

>>50996267
You sound like someone who has never lived in a black ghetto where the police don't patrol, parents are mysteriously vanished as soon as something is going on, where groups of (often) armed "urban youths" do what the fuck they want.

>>50996326
>>wait, why isn't anyone running the stores? Why isn't muh amazon shipping going anywhere? And why isn't anyone cooking muh Mcfries?
All those jobs can and should be replaced by machines in foreseeable future. There's couple low end jobs that still do need human touch, and perhaps always will, but cashier or a fast food joint drone is not one of them. Hell, not having people involved in the process would probably improve hygiene standards too.

>>50996394
So do you.

>>50996394
you do know these conspiracy theory tier accusations are the reason no one takes you seriously right.

>>50996375
>>that "those are the good ones" mentality
Of course the ones who actually act like functional members of socity and are actually acting like proper "citizens" of their country would be considered "good one" while those in ghettos who are engaging in illegal violent activities in ghettos would be looked down upon, the same thing would be happening even in countries where the racial demographic is switched you moron.

I bet you're the kind of insecure asshole who thinks black police officers, lawyers, and businessmen are "Uncle Toms" and "Not real black people"

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>>50996394

>>50996384

>Then who's building and controlling the robots?
Building? Other robots. Controlling? A small staff of educated, skilled workers who were able to put forward the dedication to get that education.

> I've worked retail. People want to work with and talk to people in customer facing jobs.

In the end, customer satisfaction is only a small part of the future of retail. It is FAR more profitable to have automated, quick transactions en masse and get dissatisfied customers (who will likely call customer service which is also automated save a small staff of actual humans, again, educated) than to provide detailed and comprehensive customer service to everyone who complains.

>Though it sounds hilarious that middle management now needs an engineering degree just in case one of the robots fucks up.

You assume that there will be middle management. There is no middle in the future. There are the haves (who worked hard and earned their place) and have-nots (who have failed at exerting that effort and thus die for that failure). There is no middle management because there will be so few human employees that middle-management will be minuscule, if existent at all.

Saying that automation won't happen as technology increases in complexity is plain retarded.

>>50996384
>Then who's building and controlling the robots?
There will always be some pool of people that have to build and maintain the robots, and the whole point of automation is that some nerd doesn't have to control the robot. Otherwise it's just a glorified tool. The difference is the automation provides far fewer jobs every time technology improves.

>At the very least that means cashiers remain a thing.
People are literally in the process of replacing cashiers at McDonalds and other fast food joints, and the results are looking good. There will likely be some schmuck hanging around to account for human error, but it's not to the same scale. Hiring a couple of people rather than a dozen is a big deal.

>>50996350
>>50996417
I don't know why you idiots think that's an economically good thing. The lack of a middle class basically means that businesses were flounder and drop as more and more people are without jobs.
The end result is literally the rich living like it's Wall-E while the rest of society collapses into Detroit-tier survival. At least, until the businesses don't have any clients and they too fall. It's post industry.

>>50996384
>Plus I've worked retail. People want to work with and talk to people in customer facing jobs. At the very least that means cashiers remain a thing.
No they don't. We will smile at the cashier, we will answer their greeting, but we're certainly not enjoying it, those are automatized steps of a charade we would be better off without. Especially if that means cashing in is sorted out 30 seconds faster.

But hey, let's put that to a test - open a joint where half the cashiers are human, half are automatizes, see what people like.

>>50996494
A lot of non-Wal-Mart businesses won't care because they use the cashier as the last chance to upsell.

>>50996482

>businesses were flounder and drop as more and more people are without jobs
And then those people die, resulting in zero drain on resources.

>The end result is literally the rich living like it's Wall-E while the rest of society collapses into Detroit-tier survival.
This is what we've been moving towards for decades. My suggestion is that the 'rest of society' is just killed outright instead of being put in the mad max scenario.

>>50996482
>I don't know why you idiots think that's an economically good thing.
People have voiced these fears at every step. If we wanted to maximize employment, we could always revert to pre industrial revolution. Yes, there will likely be growing pains but the alternative is to never improve as a society. If we refuse to step forward, someone other country will and leave us eating dust.

>>50996494

They already have. It's called self-check. the line is three to four times as long as lines with human cashiers at almost every store you could visit.

>>50996459
>mindless accusations and conclusion jumping
typical symptoms of /pol/ exposure.

>>50996527
Why not just save time and kill all of society then instead of letting the rich flounder and collapse without the poor to hold them up.

>>50996417
>>50996350
>Robots will replaces everything
>doesn't understand opportunity cost, comparative advantage, the need for recycling goods into profit across the market, and the incentive differences in resources allocation and costs between hiring unskilled workers and robots
Please come back once you've taken an economics course.
Also, did you forget about the whole reason why the Industrial Revolution had its results as they were

>>50996550

Automation has the poor beat by a wide margin. Observe >>50996545 and realize you poorfags are already on the way out. I'm also certain the wealthy would keep a large enough population to support anything that required a human touch: that's the beauty of an education.

We only need a handful of people and some damn good automation and anyone who can't provide societal value will be useless.

>>50996550
Most people don't want to die.

>>50996582
Yeah, and that's why killing of the lower class doesn't work.

>>50996580
Implying I'm poor. I just know how astronomically stupid remove the lower classes would be.

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>>50996546
>mindless accusations and conclusion jumping
>says the anon who posted>>50996267, which was the exact same thing
Holy shit, this is either world class retard hypocrisy, or some hyperdedicated shitposting.
I'm actually honestly impressed now by this level of dedication, 8/10 go in peace brave shitposter

>>50996545
Yeah, local supermarket has that situation. That happens because buying anything without bar code (such as veggies) takes 5 times as long at the self-service as it does at the cashier. It's not equal option yet.

>>50996605
i try my best, im honored.

>>50996559

>Opportunity cost
I'm curious as to what 'potential gains' are lost when phasing in a superior workforce.

>Comparative advantage
You act as if self-learning AI isn't the next big thing.

>Need for recycling goods into profit across the market
Nullified because the endgame market is much smaller.

>Cost differences between poorfags and robots
even now, the cost of buying a robot is only that of hiring an unskilled worker for a year or two. beyond that point, even with maintenance costs, it is a fraction of a full-time employees salary. As these robots grow cheaper, they will move past the only hurdle to their widespread implementation: that its still cheaper to hire unskilled temp workers and shuffle them around than it is to buy and maintain a robot. This will not be the case forever.

Also, maybe you should have gotten a better economics teacher.

>>50996582

Most people don't have defensive measures against drone strikes, so their wants are null and void.

>>50996616
As the technology does more for the customer, this too will change.

>>50996603
Wait til you have a do-everything robot and tell me how many people you need to have around.

>>50996666
Sick quads but i don't believe economic progress is the greatest goal in life, if people started being replaced en masse then you can bet they won't be happy and that includes military personnel.

>>50996666
>>50996645
You can't fool us Giga Communist Satan.
We will not go quietly into the night.
Without a massive natural cataclysm to reset human society and population levels, that would at the same time not effect technological knowledge availability and proliferation, this whole thing is doomed to plan since it runs into many of the same autarkical foibles that Communism and Directed Economy fall under

>>50996666
>do-everything robot
But then I can't fuck the maid.

In all seriousness, my main issue with it is pretty much what >>50996706 says. The whole workforce replaced by robots turns society into communists, except with food. Everything becomes rationed, and life stagnates. Shit tier.

>>50989648
>I don't know shit about the South or Civil War: The Post

The Southern army was HUGELY dominated by the Aristocracy, their sons, or immigrants (such as the Irish). This tradition actually came back to bite them in the ass - because most of the original soldiers were able to provide their own arms (as they were moderately wealthy) the CSA had little infrastructure to equip and train new, non-aristocratic recruits to the same standard, greatly reducing both the manpower pool and the quality of recruit as the war progressed.

Furthermore, "Rednecks" weren't even a thing at this point, and their precursors (poverty-level whites, especially white slaves/servants) were viewed as absolute scum barely better than The Negro or The Indian. No Southern man would ever voluntarily associate with them.

Yankee revisionism pls go and stay go

>>50990170
>objecting to people using actual racial slurs against you is having a victim complex

How often have you heard the term redneck used positively in your life as opposed to being used as a term for derision?

>>50996703

Then what you do is you make the military a protected class until they are no longer needed. The issue is less military people getting control enough to fight back and more engineers going rogue. but since the engineers are the beneficiaries of most of these advances, that is unlikely. If you cut back the military's human personnel slowly enough, nobody would even give a shit. Hell, plenty of people in the military would probably be spared, especially in higher echelons. the lower ranks and frontline grunts would probably be replaced outright with killbots. And economic progress is human progress. to be against it is to be against humanity.

>>50996706
Take your pick. As automation picks up and traditional nationstates are reshaped, it could even be the ever-so-discussed nuclear exchange that does it, if not any number of ecological disasters bubbling under the surface. Hell, good old fashioned death squads can do it, especially if they work quietly and quickly, which I'm certain plenty of killbots could do. Moreso if you don't care about all those pussy restrictions on biological weaponry. Engineer a virus and give the elite the cure. Engineer two in case they handle the first.

>>50996559
Yeah, I realize it's more complex than that and won't happen overnight. Not even when it's technologically viable because there will be active opposition. But it's the future I would like to see. And in a way help to build up.

>>50994447
here a (you) from a black Oklahoman

>>50996748

I doubt that. For one, there is still a need for competition. The humans that remain will have to be highly competitive to survive in such an environment. This fuels further technological discovery. There would be no 'rationing' because those at the top can take whatever they want, whenever they want it. You seem to be confusing a machine-driven society with one ruled by machines.

Also, your robo maid will do things no human maid would ever do. Especially considering what you probably look like, being on /tg/ and all.

>>50991072
>We have nothing to do with your poor. The Irish in the states are mostly in the new England area. Not the southern States. Jesus, learn your own fucking history.

The American South, especially Appalachia, was almost exclusively settled by Irish and Scottish immigrants well into the 20th Century. This is partly because of the isolation Appalachia provided from outside eyes (specifically Anglo eyes) and partly because many parts of Appalachia greatly resemble the Irish and Scottish climates. The warrior cultures of both groups greatly influenced the Southern Warrior Culture that existed before Reconstruction, partly contributing to the Civil War (The North was viewed as being just a new version of the English Crown by a great many Irish Rebels).

There is a reason Southern Bluegrass music and culture are so dramatically influenced by Celtic themes, and why Irish and Scottish heritage is so valued in the South.

Source: Somebody actually from the American South.

>hear that a group of people are stereotypically racist
>"I better be racist back to them, that'll show 'em!"

No wonder you guys lost the election.

>>50996750
>Confirmed for knowing nothing of the southern side of the war.
The rich literally could pay their way out of the fight. The south had no industrial infrastructure, which helped bite them in the ass, and half their troops had to stay near home because they saw sending the whole of their armed forces as asking the blacks to turn them into Haiti 2.0.

So they rich got the poor to fight, but not too many poor because they needed to control the slaves, the union used said slave populations as auxiliary troops as they went, and they had no infrastructure because "muh king cotton" diplomacy.

>>50991626
>What's next, the Welsh are human?

To be human you have to actually exist first.

>>50991729
>a term which is used almost exclusively negatively and only refers to a specific racial group isn't racist
So I guess I can start saying nigger again, it's not racist according to /tg/.

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>>50996851
>spent the whole election saying how they were going to be gloating not complaining when they win.
>wins
>is still complaining
im not even surprised anymore.

>>50991237
Probably because of that whole famine thing I'd imagine.

>>50996857
>The rich literally could pay their way out of the fight.

Many could and did. But you also weren't really a man of honor if you did not answer Dixies call to arms, and you could and would get shamed for it if people thought you were slacking off.

Southern culture pre-Civil War was HUGE about both military service and personal honor. You weren't really a man of honor if you hadn't at LEAST served as part of the militia, and that was really more of a "bare minimum" requirement (since all men were expected to be in the militia), and a great, great many sons of the aristocracy earned their positions and parental approval through service in one of the various military branches.

It was a very different beast compared to todays modern Southern culture.

I'm not saying you're wrong about the other points, because you're not. The South had quite a few problems, any one of which could have been a death blow in and of themselves

>>50996797
Economic progress does not make people fulfilled or happy, look at the first world today. You would think all this wealth and technology would be making us happier but it isn't.
We're in a continuous slide into misery. almost as if the meaning of life isn't to get your dick jerked off by robot maids 24 hours a day.

>>50996843
Further innovation would cut into profits, especially since there's no middle class to sell stuff to at this point. My guess is things would pretty much go the same way american cable companies have. Yeah they exist against each other, but they're not "competing."

The rationing would be from the food stamp system, since the grand majority of society is now poor without jobs and can't even do peasant work, but you can't kill off that many people and expect to win.
Innovation is actually harmful to business, because then you have to adapt, instead of bribe politicians to let you keep on keeping on.
For instance, coal and oil is more harmful than modern nuclear power, but that hurts the coal and oil industries, so they make sure everyone yells "But muh chernobyl" and keeps it off the radar.
Google fiber failed because the cable companies kept scoffing and going "Yeah, like you'd really do it" instead of putting gown their own fiber lines. Surprise, it was too expensive for one company to do itself.

Innovation costs money.

Also, I'd still prefer a flesh-and-blood maid. Besides, in this theoretical society she'd be too poor to be picky about what she did or did not want to do. And I'm actually a bit in shape. Don't even have a pot belly.

>>50993763
>Except the don't think there's a conspiracy. They just think the current pick is a raging asshole.

Actually the majority of democrats believe that trump was installed by Putin in a fraudulent election.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/27/poll-52-percent-of-democrats-believe-russia-rigged-voting-tallies/


You're the new republicans, deal with it.

>>50996970

>He thinks life has meaning
Oh look, a sentimentalist. I'm just going to ignore the 'why is the first world so unhappy' comment unless you really want to have THAT dance and instead, respond with a question: tell me, what is fulfillment?

>>50997017
>You're the new republicans, deal with it.
Eh, we'll have to wait a few years. See if this lasts as long as the "birther" movement.

>>50997017
>You're the new republicans, deal with it.

I can complain about everything and be right while simultaneously having zero responsibility or expectation to fix it? This is fucking great.

>>50997008

>My guess is things would pretty much go the same way american cable companies have.
The first valid point you've made. I still believe, however, that the wants of the elite to experience new things would be the driver of innovation at that point, not external economic factors.

>The rationing would be from the food stamp system, since the grand majority of society is now poor without jobs and can't even do peasant work
Those people would be killed. We've been over this three times.

>Innovation costs money.
If money is no object to the elite and they want something, they will find a way to get it because they are willing to pay for the value they get.

>Also, I'd still prefer a flesh-and-blood maid.
Even if you literally can't tell her apart from a human maid?

>And I'm actually a bit in shape. Don't even have a pot belly.
Good for you.

>>50997017
>http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/27/poll-52-percent-of-democrats-believe-russia-rigged-voting-tallies/

>THE DAILY CALLER IS TOTALLY AN UNBIASED NEWS SOURCE GUYS

>>50996375
I'm glad the gangbangers are dead, sorry I'm happy that the only people go gave you (forceful) affection are gone.
Crime is not black nature, that you think I hate blacks because I hated the bloods ruining my neighborhood and am glad they're gone makes me think the racist isn't me.

>>50997138
wow you are just too delusional to save are you.

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>>50997034
>tell me, what is fulfillment?
Finding and determining your existential worth through careful and focused observation and deliberation on what values matter most to you, taking a "leap of faith" on said existential consideration, going through the refiner's fire of life and determining which purposes and dedications where truly deserving to be held on to and further refining your self-created existential purpose, and finally coming to terms with the new identity and purpose you have crafted for yourself over the years, having determined the weight and worth of your own life and place in the grand schemata of life allowing you to discover and be at piece with your own definition of Utopia and ascending into the mental state as amongst one of the Knights of the Infinite, or at least as close as you can manage.

Do you even Existentialism bruh, or do you prefer to operate under the misinformed middle-schooler's definition of nihilism?

>>50996459
>Complaining about behavioral segregation in a thread about rednecks.
Shut the fuck up.

>>50997138

Sounds like you hate the bloods more than just the blacks. Even if they're majority black, the bloods aren't an ethnically-exclusive gang to the degree of the crips. Gang banger culture is toxic, I can agree with you there, but black people only have a 'proclivity' for it that any other poor, marginalized group has. Look to a country outside your own and you'll see plenty of gang-banger analogues of different ethnicities. I understand your bias, though, since you dealt with what sounds like an army of black faces doing dumb shit to and near you. I'm also glad you understand it's not inherent to a given race.

In the end, its poverty that allows gangs to flourish.

>>50996559
>the industrial revolution turned out fine
>therefore ever gigantic shift in our technological base will turn out fine
This is such bullshit logic.

>>50997198
To me, a violent white redneck and a violent black ganger are one in the same in how I despise them, as well as understand how they exist due to surrendering their agency to the socioeconomic forces that shaped their environment.

>>50997237
>the industrial revolution turned out fine
Never even implied, only stated that its occurrence and the factors that fed into its results are should not be so easily ignored

>>50996901
>can't deal with any criticism whatsoever
This
is
why
you
lost.

I'm not even a fucking American you idiot, I'm just trying to help you. People won't vote for you if you're openly racist to them, even if you're only doing it "ironically" because you presume they're racist. People don't like being presumed racist.

>>50997102
>Those people would be killed.
You say that like it'd be an easy undertaking and not economically draining on the elites in the first place. Especially since even the military is made of these poor that would be killed. But for the sake of this sure, we can say it magically happened.

Though I will assume there are probably some psuedo-poor that are actually pretty well off, like successful "artists" because they can make some kind of money catering to rich people's tastes, especially under a patron.

>If money is no object to the elite and they want something
What they wanted was money. That's how they got to be elites. The problem is now where do they get money. There's no positive economic growth thanks to the lack of the middle class. It's basically become the same as the feudal era with nothing really moving. Sort of an economic circle jerk really.

>Even if you literally can't tell her apart from a human maid?
Getting a human to suck you off is so much more entertaining than telling the maidbot to activate blowjob.exe. It's like corruption porn in real life.

>Good for you.
Thanks, I worked hard to get back in shape.

>>50995446
>Going "muh-muh people!" Is a sign of individual weakness.
As a black person, no one is more "muh people" than black people.

>>50997175

Alright, it's time to come clean. You won. You passed the test. This whole argument has been a devil's advocate type deal.

The views I've been expressing regarding killing off large swathes of the population for economic development and using automation and natural selection to justify that is literally the antithesis of my actual fundamental beliefs. I've met people in real life who actually and actively believe this way, and believe that humanity would be better off if those of 'indeterminate value' were slaughtered en masse. I also find, when those people show up in a thread here, they often win the argument because nobody around them has a clear definition of what it means to be human and/or can't articulate why empathy is important to our species. While I can't say I agree with your exact definition of fulfillment, I will say that the fact that you've argued so readily that life is more than just an ever-increasing dopamine-and-numbers means you're ready to fight the people who actually believe this crap.

You are a good person, anon. Please, don't lose the will to argue like this, because people with the opinions espoused above will become surprisingly common in the coming years, and even when its against their own interests they will likely envision themselves as a potential 'elite'.

Although slightly more advanced than middle-school, I still identify more with nihilism than any other philosophy though. that doesn't mean I don't believe human beings have worth.

>>50997035
We can only hope, this russia shit is pretty retarded.

>>50997064
Isn't that what the democrats were already doing? Isn't that just how politics works?

>>50997118
>every news story that I don't like is conservative propaganda!

Now you're getting it!

>>50996811
It won't happen because robots don't buy shit.
That's the fulcrum of this stasis. Robots don't consume, and the wealth necessary to develop your ridiculous robot society requires a healthy econimic cycle the rich do not contribute to.

We are right now seeing industries collapse because the rich refuse to let capital return to the hands of the people and refuel the economic cycle. Capitalist humanity is not cooperative enough to generate a post-scarcity society sustained by robots for even a small city. Socialist humanity is not wealthy or industrious enough to produce such a society.

>>50997332
I'm black myself
I've never heard black people try and say they're worth something because Carver invented a fuckload of uses for the peanuts.

That said, it's still a sign of individual weakness.

>>50997402

>THE CALLER ISN'T BIASED YOU ARE

"The Daily Caller is a politically conservative news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C.. It was founded by Tucker Carlson, a libertarian conservative political pundit, and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney."

>>50997311
im not the one talking down to everyone ITT about how liberals are the "real" racists
protip: just because a liberal talked down to you once dose not give you the right to talk down to other people, its this childish mentality that makes politics so toxic, and everyone who takes part in them so annoying.

>>50996138
DINKLEBEEERRRRGGGG

>>50997507

Shout out to tha real MVP: you.

>>50997268
I was replying to the retard you replied to but fugged up.

>>50997562
Is cool man

>>50997365
hmm, not bad /tg/

shitposting to attempt to draw out shreds of decency and faith in humanity is justifiable shitposting i guess, even though you sound like a mega fedora