MTG Aether Revolt Spoilers thread

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>>50985217
White gets some more quality sideboard cards

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>>50985230
Revolt, by the way, seems like your typical mechanic that will matter in limited and sometimes in constructed but it's nothing you build your deck around

Draft bullshit right here

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>>50985242
Green gets a card advantage machine

This card gives me the impression I'll have to think twice about blocking to what appears to favourably trade because if the effects are like this it's going to feel like a blowout

>>50985217
its pretty good at instant speed,compared to shitty black improvise sorcery

>>50985230
Dat flavor text
>This artifact dies to removal

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>>50985264
Wizards didn't commit the same mistake twice and are actually using the popular mechanic from the first set in the second one

>>50985267
Well, it's a complete reference to Chord of Calling.

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>>50985277
Usefulness of common and uncommon improvise cards will mostly depend on whether there are enough enablers to play them -just- on the curve

This guy for example will not, but turn 2 servo exhibition into a turn 3 5-CMC creature will be a beater

I am talking about limited of course

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>>50985303
This guy, for example, is not worth it

Also, hey, another assembly-worker!

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>>50985319
That fucking Crew cost

It plays well with that Chinese spoiled rare, though

Literal trash in standard.

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>>50985334
This is the card in question in case you've not seen it yet

Peacekeeper Colossus, 3
Artifact - Vehicle (Rare)
1W: Another target Vehicle you control becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.
Crew 4
6/6
"Keeping peace? Its sole purpose is to keep people in fear."
--- Saheeli Rai

>>50985334
it can be used for improvise tap if you summon it on t1.

>>50985334
>crew 6
not today lupine prototype

>>50985351
>not a golem vehicle
Maro autism.

>The development team was looking for a mechanic that rewarded you for having a lot of artifacts. Between the extra artifacts and all the artifact creature tokens, Kaladesh block created an environment where caring about how many artifacts you had would shine. Affinity for artifacts seemed to be a perfect fit. Yes, there would need to be some care with how to balance the cards, but Ben Hayes (Aether Revolt's lead developer) and his development team felt they were up to the task.

>At one point during development of this set, Magic development team unironically considered printing affinity

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Well then

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>>50985537
So apparently Expertise is a cycle?

Anyone wants in to predict the red, blue and green ones?

>>50985334
>Block theme is India
>7/11

Good work Wizards

>>50985509
The storm scale seems to hold precisely 0 weight.
I wouldn't actually be surprised if they ended up printing storm or dredge again and being surprised when everyone complained.

>>50985264
>this
>equal black effect is etb +1/+1 counter

WHAT THE FUCK MARO
THE MAGIC THE GREENING IS NOT A JOKE ANYMORE

>>50985667
Black gets a rare with Revolt: Destroy target creature

In my days that would be an uncommon

>>50985334
Oh boy, I wonder what I'm going to see a ton of during prerelease. It's like that damn train all over again.

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>>50985217

Oh look, synergy.

>>50985537
Standard Enchantress ?
One more card for Legacy/Modern Enchantress ?

>>50985537
this is going to become a banned commander real quick

>>50985702
He still does fuck all. He produces 1 consumable mana dork a turn, kills or shittily buffs a creature, depending on how well you're already doing (useless if you're already behind because you wasted turn 4), or slowly turns your artifacts into creatures. The starter deck version that was designed soley to be shit gives better artifact synergy.

>>50985759
I fucking hope not. White needs all the card draw it can get.
Plus, this makes Dwarf Mechanic Waifu even more viable.

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HEY GUYS I HEARD YOU LIKE AETHERWORKS MARVEL DECKS SO I GAVE THOSE DECKS ANOTHER CARD TO FUCK YOU UP WITH

>>50985537
>>50985546
>Sram is a polish verb for "I'm shitting [right now]"
>In the poo in the loo set
Well, it's a good time to make R/W EDH "The Wolf of Shitting Street" deck

>>50985856
That's fucking gorgeous flavor text though.

>>50985856
>And what happened, then? Well, in the secondary market they say
>that Panharmonicon's price grew three sizes that day.

>>50985217
Improvise reads like its addressed to five-year-olds with autism. Market research?

>>50985509
Gearseeker serpent has straight up affinity, iirc.

>>50985546
>>50985217
You can't combo these can you?

>>50985926
It's 3 years old already with the new convoke tips, get on with time.

>>50985965
If you mean searching a 0 cost artifact, yeah you can.

>>50985965
>without paying its mana cost
X would be 0, so yes in that case. You can't put more into X when it is cast without paying its mana cost. Even then, that would make the CMC more than 3 anyways.

>>50985965
Good job, you can now search your library for an artifact card with converted mana cost 0 or less, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.

>>50985856
God do I want this to be good. But 6 mana to get only the opportunity for an extra turn?
Not quite that great. Not so sure standard will even use it, but might end up a fringe deck?

>>50986020
>what is affinity metalwork colossus deck

>>50986020
>Not so sure standard will even use it, but might end up a fringe deck?
I don't think Aetherwork Marvel is a fringe deck

>>50985334
>1 mana 7/11

what the fuck is this shit!?

>>50986013
>zero mana
>any of the moxen
>any of the artifact lands
>or that fancy expedition ornithopter

>>50986020

Part the Waterveil got used in fringe decks, and it's 6 cmc. Obviously the option to use awaken is really nice though. They're just printing it as an obligatory "Here's the extra turn spell post-rotation in standard".

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>>50985907

>>50986135
I'm pretty sure there is better cards/combo in non-Standard formats to search those cards

>>50985334
>implying its hard to get total power of 6
>implying since its one cmc you MUST play it t1
>must be bad

Crew it with 2 veteran motorists and built to smash and you win the game man

>>50986174
Of course there is, I was mainly kidding too.

>>50985856
This card is going to be $50.

Why? Well, if you can get infinite artifact etbs, which is not very difficult, you get both infinite turns and infinite energy. This card should read "Pair me with aetherwork marvel and play your whole deck for free."

>>50986275
It exiles itself upon using the ability anon

>>50986303
... fuck you're right. That's disappointing, I was about to order a playset.

This is a $5 card tops. People will bitch about it in standard, absolutely no one will play it in constructed.

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REMOVAL IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

>>50986336
>Sort of a half an abrupt decay for half the cost.

Yeah, sure, I'm on board with that.

>>50986336
RIP thermo alchemist deck

>>50986359
it's more a smother, but yeah

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>>50986336

>>50986336
This will be good to destroy that busted dreadnought vehicle. At the same rarity too.

>>50986020
>forgetting it also gives you energy
Aethorworks will play 4 of this

>>50986474
Not at 6 mana

>>50986336
Fetches make it easy to achieve revolt

This could be modern playable

>>50986512
It definitely seems sideboard playable. 4cmc hits most things in the format.

>>50986336
Think this guy will find a home, /tg/?

>>50986555
If by "home" you mean "every deck playing black in standard" then yes

>>50986020

I see it as more of a toy for casual artifact shenanigans.

>>50985509
I still maintain affinity for X is a perfectly acceptable mechanic, just don't be a retard and make the object have affinity for it's own type

Holy FUCK did WotC reveal their power levels or something? This is beyond fuckin insane

>>50986555
Black's answer to tarmogoyf has finally been discovered

>>50986336

>thiskillsthegoyf

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>>50985863

I was about to make that post anon.

>>50986336
This card feels a little bit pushed

>>50986647
It's a damn good answer to Copter and Heart of Kiran

>>50986135
if we're just gonna act like retards and say "but it tutors cards only legal in vintage" why aren't you saving yourself 2 mana by playing Tinker/Reshape you chode?

>>50986336


>Cheap efficient removal
>At uncommon

Ok, who left the time machine on?

>>50986647
That was a good one anon

>>50986549
>>50986512
Hell, 2 cmc hits most creatures in the format. I'm ordering 8, this card is the tits.

>>50986692
>In your lifetime people will start saying "dies to push" instead of "dies to bolt"

>>50986721
>You can't play a creature with a CMC of less than 5 ! It dies to push !

>>50986721
>you will love to see the rose of BRx control decks.

Whose excited to play magic again thanks to a one drop uncommon?

>>50980946
Bigger thread

>>50986734
>unfindable in the archive

See this is why you put the string "mtg" somewhere

>>50986734
It has the exact same number of posts and images as this thread, but with fewer IPs.

Also fewer posts, as of this one.

>>50986336
Well this shits all over my deck.

Guess it's back to the drawing board...

>>50985981
So exactly what was wrong with the old wording?

>>50986826
You probably have more creatures than 4 Fatal Push in your deck :^)

>>50986275
google time seive, then stop jizzing yourself.

>>50986336

MODERN IS SAVED

This on top of a ban or two will seriously shift the meta

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>>50986963
SUNDERING TITAN
MY NIGGA

>>50986670
I was obviously joking, don't take it so hard.

>>50986963
Finally a less redundant wording for Sundering Titan.

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>>50986336
>mfw

>>50985759

Why? It's a strictly worse (but still very useful) version of cards that already exist. Or are you from one of those "Reliquary Tower is Banned" metas?

>>50985546

Red will be 3 damage to target creature or player or destroy target artifact or land because Wizards is boring with red

Green will be three +1/+1 counters

Blue will be counter target spell with CMC 3 or less or maybe Scry 3, draw a card.

>>50985856

This + Aetherworks Marvel could possibly find its way into Breya and Daretti decks.

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>turn 1 attune with aether
>turn 2 3/4 for G

BALANCED
A
L
A
N
C
E
D

>>50987452
it'd be turn 3 you could do it, fucktard

>>50987528

Attune gives 2 energy on turn one. Are you well?

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>>50987528

>>50987452
Seems like exactly what Green would do. But it does have to contend with Fatal Push, so...

>>50987555
Wow so good literally one colour has an answer to this motherfucker

>>50986336
he didn't fly so good

>>50987586

>grasp, fatal push
>hub+harnessed lightning
>immolating glare
>welfare mana leak and horribly awry

???

>>50987586
you could just bounce it...

>>50987452
you can even make it a 3 mana 3/4 in limited without playing any energy cards, i like it

>>50987591
Tell me about Tezzeret! Why does he make the Lotus Petals?

>>50987639
A LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED THOPTER

>>50987452
but then you're playing attune with aether.
On its own,
>t1: bounce it back for ENERGY
>t2: do it again, cast it
>it's a 3/4 for GG on T2, after wasting T1
is that even good enough for standard?

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pretty good

>>50987677
>but then you're playing attune with aether.

Why would you not be playing attune with aether

This card puts RG energy into T1 I think

>>50987677

R/G and Temur Aetherworks plays attune, RG energy plays attune. They're both reasonable decks. Hub is arguably the strongest in the format at the moment. it's not worth running in aetherworks but it's a reasonable RG energy card if you're not running the pummler variant and running more of a midrange with cubs, hydras and the like.

>>50987663
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would Bolt a creature, before pushing them off a skygate.

>>50987689
>take my turn two 4/3
>fatal push

>>50987635
then its a 3/4 for GGG still.

>>50985754
Enchantress doesn't play too many auras. Modern Enchantress isn't a thing.

>>50987893
Isn't bogles technically enchantress?

>>50985242
It's a parallel to Morbid. Morbid had 3 good cards in 2 sets, I suspect this mechanic will produce 1 good card.

>>50987689
Is this Modern playable in stompy? If you fetch into this turn 2 you get a 4/3 right out of the gate. That's bigger than a lot of turn 2 Goyfs.

If you don't have the fetch it seems real bad though.

>>50985242
do you know what a fetchland is?

>>50987893
>Modern Enchantress isn't a thing
You didn't googled enough

>>50987980
No. Enchantress is a pillowfort deck that plays a ton of effects that allow you to draw a card whenever you cast an enchantment spell while denying your opponent the opportunity to attack you or target you.

Bogles is an aggro deck that uses auras.

>>50987586
Red: Lightning Axe, Harnessed Lightning+E, Galvanic Bombardment in late game, Outnumber
White: Declaration in Stone, Immolating Glare
Blue: Counters in general after turn 2, Revolutionary Rebuff
UW: Reflector Mage, Spell Queller,
BR: Unlicensed Disintegration

>>50985334
Question for someone who knows better than me - Has there ever been a big/big for one mana with a drawback that actually made it balanced?

>>50988077
Hey, bogles does at least 2 of the things enchantress does, so that means it's also an enchantress deck.

>>50985277
That's not a fabricate card.

>>50988088
>blue
>countering a 1 drop
Look at this retard everyone

>>50987980
?!?!?!

>>50988103
>Phyrexian dreadnaught
>Death's Shadow
>Slumbering Dragon

They're either busted in the right deck or completely unplayable

>>50988163
>Slumbering Dragon
Slumbering was ever playable?

>>50985509
>development team unironically considered...
Holy shit how dare they have bad ideas.

>>50985652
Storm Scale isn't meant to "hold weight," it's MaRo's personal, subjective, fluctuating opinion and he describes it as such. MaRo isn't even a developer, he's a designer.

>>50985856
Am I the only one who thinks this name is clunky as hell? "Gonti's Heart" or "Aether Heart" would be better.

>>50986336
>"The fall will give you time to think on your failure."

>>50986336
Goyfslayer.
This actually kills everything Legacy except cheat creatures, eldrazi, Menor and Shardless Agent on topdeck, and it does kill all the good eldrazi, Mentor and Agent when revolted.

>>50988249
It's not as if revolt is hard to achieve, you literally just have to fetch

>>50986324
Standard is constructed.
Just stop hurting yourself.

>>50988043
Sorry I must have mispoke.
Modern Enchantress isn't a REAL thing.
>>50988129
Huh, I didn't think about it but Boggles also plays a lot of 1-2 mana spells; doesn't interact with the opponent much; and tries to win as quickly as possible.

I guess it's ALSO a burn deck.

>>50987826
Leatherback Baloth didn't broke anything in Standard.

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>All I heard a few months ago was people bitching that Aether Revolt was going to be terrible and store owners shouldn't even bother stocking it.
>Spoilers begin
>Lots of pretty damn solid stuff, even in the uncommon slots, possibly useful in a number of formats
>Looks like what was already one of the most enjoyable limited blocks is getting even better.

I wonder how many Desolator videos we are going to get, bitching about how Wizards is evil and responsible for his poor business skills?

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>>50988142
I'm saying that you can, not that you should.

>>50987452
>>50987528
It's a revolt enabler for G.

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>>50988103
Pic related.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE FABRICATE CARDS

>>50987452
can this be bounced to generate energy at will?

>>50985335
Right why would anyone play chord of calling.

>>50988531
I'm not even sure what exactly you're asking. If you think the elephant will give you an energy when he's bounced, you'll be sorely dissappointed.

>>50988531
Only if you have less than 2 energy. The ability is not a choice.

>>50988531
Yes. You can make 1 energy with it, buy only if you can't pay.

>>50985537
>>50985546
Dorf Cid?

>>50988508
Even then, it was pretty situational. The elephant can always be a creature, provided you pay GGG for it.

On the other hand, elephant can't be played t1 no matter what

>>50985899
Too wordy. "The crime lord is often described as heartless" would be better.

>>50988655
I disagree. I think it's a breath of fresh air considering the ongoing track record or garbage flavor text.

>>50988400
Standard changes. Wasn't Path to Exile in the same standard as Leatherback Baloth?

>>50988528
Fabricate was dropped. Energy and Vehicles were more popular.

>>50988405
it's almost absurd how much higher the power level is based on the spoilers alone compared to Kaladesh

>>50985690
Was the pain train a big issue in limited? Was it worse than the wurm simulacrum from RoE?

>>50988727
I don't think popularity is the reason
They create sets years in advance, how can they know what mechanic will be more popular

>>50985334
well at least it is an uncommon so they only printed this because they are retards rather then because they are greedy

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>>50988727

fuck me with a rusty knife, you're right

fuck. Goodbye to my fabricate deck I guess.

>>50988781
Just play >>50985546 and enjoy the bunk Cascade.

>>50988767
I only played limited a couple times but Aradara Express was pretty bad (except that one time I gave it lifelink). I think he's talking about Renegade Freighter which is pretty beast

>>50988781
RIP. Fabricate allowed me to dominate my Kaladesh prerelease.

>>50988828


I can't play a land with that, can I? Since it says "cast" I assume it has to be a spell

>>50986616
Even its own type can work fine as long as that type isn't artifact. Everything else will have minimal colored costs, both for the original things and the things with affinity.

>>50988781
>>50988842
They're not popular for standard play and can be degenerate with Improvise on limited. Don't worry though, you'll see those degenerate plays since we'll still be using one or two KLD boosters for limited.

>>50988727
Kaladesh block is going to end up feeling like it has no mechanical identity of its own because it has three mechanics that could practically be evergreen.

>>50988877
Yes you can't.

>>50988877
I believe that's right. Still, you can get a free Glint-Sleeve Artisan or a Servo Exhibition out of it and have a veritable army at the ready.

>>50985546
how does this work with sayyy...

Reckless Bushwacker?

>>50988899
Energy may return on a different plane. I doubt we'll see Vehicles again except in a Return block.

>>50988939
You will not get the surge etb ability

>>50988939
it doesn't, surge is an alternate cost.

>>50988939
>Reckless Bushwacker
You wouldn't get the benefit unless you cast it for Surge.

>>50988960
>>50988961
>>50988972
yeah didn't think it would work that way

man can dream

>>50988717
Path, Terminate, Doom Blade and Go for the Throat. It also shared Standard with UB Faeries, Jund, CAW Blade and Twin-Exarch.

>>50988717
We have a Path to Exile Lite (Declaration in Stone).

>>50988991
but still

>Cast Sram's Expertise
>play Nissa for free
>-2

>>50988767
When I played the prerelease everyone and their mother had a renegade frighter and it was quite annoying to face.

>>50988917
>>50988924

It might have been a way to speed up flipping westvale abbey if I could. At least I run some 3-cmc cards I can get with it

>>50988899
Energy and Vehicles would never be evergreen.

>>50989037
Fuckin choice.

>>50988991
There is a bushwacker with kicker that you can pay the additional R and get firebreath for your whole team

>>50985303
What are you talking about? This looks pretty solid in limited if I've got enough 1-2 cost artifacts that I could reliably drop this turn 3.

>>50989037
Not sure if better or worse than adaptive automaton. probably worse tho. I might test a one-off in affinity tho, seems nice with ravager.

>>50988405
>set one: mediocre. Peeps continue to mostly play with the previous block.
>set two: buff set one and invalidate previous block to varying degrees.
>repeat
Seems like a solid formula.

>>50989090
Worse, Automaton was a gobal pump and often won you the game when it came down.
This only benefits shit that comes after it.

>>50986453
it baffles me that said busted vechile is uncommon
does this mean wizards has stopped printing obviously op cards at mythic to try and sell more packs

>>50989037
Seems... alright? I'll probably make B/X Eldrazi for standard and try a few.

Any modern tribal decks that could give a damn about this?

>>50989136
Vehicles are EXTREMELY pushed, both in rarity and mana cost.

>>50988616
It's a G sorcery that gives you E and returns itself to your hand for free, it's a efficient beater, it enables revolt for G. It's a really flexible elephant.

>>50989037
Will be expensive in time solely due to casual tribal players.

>>50989155
Daily reminder that Sky Skiff and Smuggler's Copter were in the same set

>>50986336
if frontier somehow catches on there goes half the ensoul decks
fuck this kills goyf

>>50989037
>i choose servo :^)
And the guy that get this and a bunch of Fabricate cards just ruined everyone's day.

>>50989211
Good thing that we only get 2 Kaladesh pack during the prerelease then

>>50986336
I look forward to pushing Thalia, Teeg, Revoker, Canonist, Meddling Mage and Containment Priest the fuck off my airship.

>>50989207
the removal that black deserves. Fuck goyf, delver, and every other creature in the game.

>>50989211
No, the guy who also opened Panharmonicon does that.

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>>50986336
A creature removal version of Spell Snare would be literally playable but then they print this shit.

>>50989330
Now that you mention legacy the card also kind of combos with wasteland.

>>50986336
I can hear goyf's price falling 10% easy.

>>50987452
A Shrieking Drake-lookalike producing energy on top for green? Nice.

>>50986336
Is this gonna be a $5 uncommon?

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>>50986336
Remember Vhati!

>>50989397
>As Mettalic Mimic enters the battlefield, [Effect]
It's not affected by Panharmonicon

>>50989404
And Lotus Petal, to say nothing of fetches.

>>50989402
>A better creature removal version of Spell Snare
>shit

>>50989455
The +1/+1 counter effect is affected by panharmonicon tho, isn't it?

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>>50986680
Shit, that was my bad, I knew I bumped something important earlier.

>>50989407
Then it might only be grossly unreasonable.

>>50988531
paying the 2 energy is not optional

>>50989463
That is pretty insane actually.

>>50989482
No, it doesn't as it's not a ETB trigger.

>>50989455
The comment was about Panharmonicon + Fabricate.

>>50989482
I don't think so
It doesn't read as a triggered ability to me

>>50988899
energy aint gonna be evergreen would change the game to much

at most you will get a minor handful of energy cards every few blocks

>>50989151
>tfw ally lord

>>50989407
This won't effect goyf you silly billy. Efficient removal has always been around. The real application is here: >>50989330

>>50989521
>>50989527
Oh, alright, yeah it reads kind of weird.

>>50989508
Push is a good sideboard card, but that lack of "cannot be countered" is killer. You still side it in when not playing against blue, though.

>>50989568
Its great because its one color and costs one mana. Cannot be countered would make it capital B busted

>>50989402
So you don't like Fatal Push because it's too good?

>>50989568
Right nobody plays bolt because of how often it gets countered.

>>50989548
Yeah, ETB triggers would be more natural as "when a happends, then b happens".

With the wording on the card your creatures are always +1/+1 on the field, so opponents can't respond to their ETB with damage/reduction based removal. But you're also missing out on "+1/+1 counter placed" triggers.

>>50989330
oh i assumed it was a tall building at first but looking at it your right they are on an airship
flavorful

>>50985452
>lupine prototype

??????

>>50989483
heh

>>50986826
Yeah, better cut out all those 1~4 drops right?

>>50987452
Just to check, can I crew since etb trigger goes on stack?

>>50989037

Neat, I finally got a lord for my Zombies deck so they can get huge.
HUGE
HUEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGE

>>50987452
Oh, how I wish paying the energy was a "may" ability.
Or can you fail to pay?

>>50989815
>finally got a lord for my Zombies deck
You braindead or something, anon?

>>50989809
Yep.

>>50989809
yes you can.

>>50989834
nah im pretty sure you have to pay it

>>50989834
If you can't, return it to your hand.

>>50989774
2 generic 5/5 from SoI. It can't attack or block unless someone's hand is empty, but that doesn't matter if you're using it to crew. What Anon is saying is that you can't T1 Dreadnought T2 Lupine, tap to crew, attack with 7/11 boat.

>>50989834
no you can't

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>>50989809
>>50987452
>ETB
>Crew a vehicle
>Return to hand
>Get Revolt activated
>Also get energy

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I just... don't want to play this shit.

>>50986858
snapcaster flashback push. :^)

>>50989151

>Any modern tribal decks that could give a damn about this?

I will legitimately try this in Allies, Merfolk, Slivers and Elves.

I don't think Merfolk really cares about this seeing as they have plenty of lords already, Allies will get huge use out of this especially since they used to play Ghostway(likely replaced with Eerie Interlude now) for sweeper protection resulting in massive trigger shenanigans. Slivers not so bad as it's Muscle/Sinew Sliver 9-12. Elves might possible use this to boost stuff quickly out of Pyroclasm/Anger ranger and this can be tapped with Heritage Druid. I mean I play Elves and that's a maybe but I will try it.

>>50989907
But why anon?

>>50989837

This is for Standard. I know there's like a bajillion Zombie lords in other formats.

>>50989907
>waaah magic is dead again

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The designers went off the fuckin rails, I guess they're tired of people complaining about the power level of standard.

This new power level is overwhelming, but I like where its going.

>>50989957
Boring.

>>50989932
>push, snap, push
Hell yeah I'm ready to gang fight.

>>50989957
>Pajeet wears a hat
>suddenly everything flies

>>50989895
i am salivating

>>50989037
Fucking casuals.

>>50990009
Let's push it to the limit.

>>50989991

WoTC only speaks one language, money.

Their constant shitty design has been ruining standard for years now so they're making some effort to turn it around.

>>50989957
nice
wait fuck i misread that as creatures you control have flying.
could be good but most of the best vehicles fly anyway so we will have to wait and see

>>50989957
>7/11 flying turn 4

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>>50989939
Well, Fatal push and a few other pet cards do look cool and nothing is 100% trash, but I just don't like the theme and the abilities are roundabout and gimmicky. It's like they took the shitty themes from Origins and made it into its own set. As a player of other formats this isn't something I want to put money into.


Some of the basic land art is really nice though.

>>50989957
That cockpit doesn't look very functional

>>50989568
Do people only play black with green?

>>50990071
im pretty sure you could do it turn 3

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>>50989964
>Current Standard=Magic

>>50990081
>duuuuuuuude, we're like flyiiing duuuuuuuuuddeeeeee
You don't need a functional cockpit to blaze it.

>>50990124
Do tell how

>>50990075
Reasonable. I notice a lot of recycled and reworked mechanics from sets past in this block.

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So I heard you like Hardened Scales.

>>50990176
Sometimes a set really grabs you. Even some of the Innistrad stuff got me goin. Preference I guess.

>set has weak cards
>LMAO WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY STANDARD IS PATHETIC HAHA

>set has strong cards
>WAAAH THE META IS RUINED WOTC WHAT ARE YOU DOING BAWWW

is there no pleasing you fags?

>>50990199
>Green/Black
>Not R/G for Pummeler.dec

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>>50985334
Oh hey

>>50990199
How the hell is this black?

>>50990199

>More goodstuffs for G/B Delirium

Woooooooooooooow.

>>50990176
yeah there are a lot of things that are old mechanics changed to artifacts but i kind of like it

>elf deck
>Metallic Mimic
>Armorcraft Judge

look out

I just broke standard

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>>50990226
How about just fuck standard in general then? Would that please THIS fag (You)?

>>50990234
Turns on sorcery speed creature removal if used, which gets rid of one of vehicle's strengths. Risky to be sure.

>>50990199
You might get a bad counter.
jk, i have no idea

>>50990248
Its a snake
>but snakes are green already
bant tamiyo

>>50990234
Explain to me how something can be both a vehicle and a creature?

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>>50985926
If that's addressed to autistic children, to whom is this addressed to?

>>50990199
>not playing this against infect in Modern to suicide and tilt your opponent

12D chess motherfuckers

>>50990199
>inb4 infect in the next block
would be interesting actually you want the constrictor out to double your shit but you have to be able to ditch it quickly in case your opponent plays a creature with infect

>>50990274
The 3/0 first strike could make a nice finisher depending on the rest of the set

>>50990250
Why would G/B Delirium want it?

>>50990294
A crewed vehicle is a creature.
You dunce.

>>50990248
You see the little skull in the upper right?

>>50990226
why not a medium power level
that said i am very happy with the minor stuff in this set its very strong but in a good way
fuck that 1 mana ship though

>>50990296
>put a blaze counter on your forest
>420 forever

>>50990305
Well we have Tezeret, an artifact plane and a planar bridge.
If it wasn't for not!Egypt, I'd very much think we'd be having a Phyrexian rave party some time soon.

>>50990296
Anyone with a modest amount of intuition.

>>50990330
I'm actually loving this set in particular because all of the cards have big possibilities and seem generally useful

>>50990299
Killing yourself is not how you tilt your opponent anon.

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>>50985634
This was not a mistake.

>>50990234
a vehicle that becomes a creature for any reason has its vehicle p/t right
so this is a turn 2 10/14

>>50990382
Helping someone suicide is pretty disturbing

>>50990294

Are you retarded? We already have artifact creatures, cards that are just naturally both artifact and creature, and they can have subtypes too (I.e. Vehicle)

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>>50990317
>Never played these shit cards before
>Vehicle = Crewed by creatures AKA living beings = A creature itself?
>Dunce

>>50990396
Siege Modification cost 1RR
That makes its CMC 3
So you can't play it on turn 2

>>50990396
fuck a turn 2 10/14 with first strike at that
i imagine the dreadnaught is the only reason the modification grants first strike instead of trample

>>50990439
Try not to over think it.

>>50990451
you can if you are playing r/g

everybody seems to have forgoten ramp exists today

>>50988405
>2017
>watching desolator

>>50990439

>creatures = living beings

Thopters are living beings then?

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>>50990418
How intellectual of you. Except I wasn't asking from a mechanical perspective. I realize that more than one trait may exist on a card.

>>50990199

Hey kid, Wanna boop?

>>50990439
>Never played these shit cards before
You could have read any Vehicle card so far and get an explanation for your stupid-ass questions.
Fuck, even walls are creatures.

>>50990484
But you just spent your turn 1 mana to put a 7/11 vehicle on the battlefield
When did you cast your mana ramp ?

>>50990396
I don't play standard but my impression was that every blue deck ran or sideboarded Ceremonious Rejection, and white decks ran Fragmentize. And black now has Fatal Push.

I think there are a good number of answers for trying to go tall with vehicles now

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>>50985334
>>50989957
>>50990234
I'm so ready for these three.

>>50990480
Thank you. This was the answer I'm looking for. Because there is no answer.

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>>50986336
How is it that some of the most influential removal features a simple stumble or fall? Is gravity evil?

>>50990520
What is your question anyway ?

>>50990234
>6/3 flying first strike looter turn 3.
It'd be great if it wasn't because the good thing about vehicles is they dodge sorcery speed removal.

>>50990523
Gravity is the most reliable way of destroying anything.

>>50990439
They're "creatures" in the same way that a mindless construct is a creature. A creature in mtg terms is anything with power and toughness and is therefore eligible to attack or block (even if it has a restriction that says it can't attack or block). That's it. A crewed vehicle can run niggas over as well as running your opponent's creatures over when they attack you

>>50990523
They both can kill creatures with flying. 0/10 flavor fail.

>>50986336

I like this card. I just wish that good removal would be printed in colors outside of B/R and White (sideboard only though lol).

Fully expecting the blue version of this to do the same thing except the revolt effect is "draw a card, discard a card" and it also costs 2UU.

>>50990567
What? Green and Blue do not get removal.

Of course they'd never print removal outside of the removal colors.

>>50990561
Dude a fall is not less dangerous the more distant you are from the ground.

>>50990347
>a planar bridge.
wait really i thought story team was not allowed to have plane traveling machines anymore

>>50990589
>push dragon off the ship
>it just flies away
¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

>>50990595
this is a noted exception, that's why its a big deal.

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>>50990595

>>50990595

Exceptions to every rule

>>50990512
oh fuck your right
disregard my faggotry
turn 3 10/14 first strike

>>50990523
Black =/= evil. Specifically, in the context of the cards mentioned, black = death. Death is natural and can happen at any time for nearly any reason. You will notice there is not intent behind tripping and falling. Death is often impartial. It is just about thing that happens.

>>50990621
>Everyone sucking Saheeli's clit for this

>The same tech has been built only better about a dozen times before

The mending was a mistake.

>>50990631
Where are you getting the 14 thoughness?

>>50990583

Blue used to get counter spells back in the good old days before they decided that blue wasn't fun anymore and relegated it to bad CA and filtering effects only.

Green gets tons of removal and is easily one of the best colors in almost every format. I don't feel too bad for Green.

>>50990647
*a thing

>>50990651
It also lead to the phyrexians taking over a bunch of planes

It's kind of a big deal

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>Muhh lore

>>50990651
its Rashmi.

and the old portals don't work anymore, this is a portal that gets around the Mending Multiverse spell Jeska cast.

>>50990651
Saheeli didn't build the bridge, a non-planeswalker did, read the story

>>50990670
>in every format
>legacy
>vintage
Nice green you have there.
>>50990651
>Saheeli
>Rashmi made the portal
>Rashmi's name is on the card

>>50990670

Blue counterspells won the Kaladesh pro tour m8

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>>50990694
>Read the story

>>50990685
>>50990694
>>50990698
Oops

>>50990698

Green is good in legacy

>>50990726
Then don't whine about things that didn't happen.

>>50990733
>miracles
>delver
>literally any combo deck
>eldrazi

Yep, tons of great green decks! Shardless BUG isn't the entire format, buddy.

>>50990726
Yes, read the story
It's interesting

>>50990733
It's aight.

>>50990706
Isn't it possible to run a counter deck, skillfully counter everything that would be lethal, ramp your mana like normal, and then cast an unblockable 20/20 for GG?

>>50990561
well with the push you can imagine that rather then forcing them off a ledge you kick them so hard from above they plummet to the ground without any time to recover
slip is a short enough fall you could easily not fly away in time

>>50990523
Isaac Newton found out gravity's secret, now he's dead. If that's not evil, i don't know what is.

>>50990658
oh wait misread in
still 10/11

>>50990706
Unless blue is allowed to counter everything everytime and to make playing against him impossible it will always be unfairly ganged upon if you ask blue players.

>>50990765
Also he never got laid. Gravity will prevent you from getting your dick wet heard it here first.

>>50990764
I'll give you that Tragic Slip could kill something with flying, but the kick/push is just silly. I realise it makes the card unnecessarily wordy and worse, but it's just not on flavor at all. There is no way you are pushing a thopter or spirit off of anything to their death.

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>>50990804
Dude, 90% of black kill spells shouldn't work on spirits.

>>50990804
Yeah, and there's no way an Azorious detention sphere should be able to contain Emrakul, but it does.

>>50990804
kicking something from above may be silly but it is also awesome

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>OK, the reality-warping mage turns the entire world into an illusion using his Enchanted Evening spell

>I smash his enchantment with my hammer!

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>>50990838
>Can't Murder a spirit
Brago would like a word with you