Warhammer 40,000 General /wh40k/

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List tailor this

There's nothing wrong with list tailoring. People who complain instead of tailoring themselves and presenting a good fun challenge to you are fags.

>>50984734
>"List tailoring is for assholes" edition

It literally isn't though. With the sort of extreme armies people can create nowadays, and the worse-than-ever levels of balance between codexes, you can't really create a list that can reasonably handle anything your opponent puts down. The only way to get a good game these days is if both players know roughly what sort of army they'll be facing in advance, and can both tailor appropriately.

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Nth for Sisters of Cattle

4th for the Dark City!

nth for plastic Great Unclean One when

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>>50984778
You mean /fit/ sisters?

>>50984783
Outpaced and outclaimed by an obese monkeigh. The archon is not amused. Last I saw he was speaking with the haemonculus about you.

>>50984796
After plastic Squiggoths and true scale Ghaz.

>>50984800
Stop feeding the chubby chasers, man. Just ignore them.

>>50984800
>dat neck and body/face ratio
lol nice try your waifu is a literal cow
i guess she was sainted in an indian colony lmao

>>50984815
I just wanted to post the image again anon

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>>50984800

Nope, they're fat. Such a disappointment.

HAES!

Fucking shit lords

>>50984824
And brought another shitstorm with it.

>>50984833
The Sister of Silence models are garbage. They're just female Kabalite Warriors tweaked in the CAD machine. Look at the arms and legs - the design of the armour is almost identical.

>>50984849

At least they don't have FUPA's, like the new Sisters of Cattle do.

MOOOOOOOOOO

>>50984833
There's literally two models out that look fat and they're specially sculpted to go with Celestine.
Stop stirring shit and wait for the actual SoB models to come out before crying wolf you manchild retard.

>>50984875
>Stop stirring shit
I doubt he cares about the models. The shit stirring is the point.

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Show me what you've been playing /tg/. I played against a pretty cool Death Guard army yesterday (and for the record I think the yellow stuff on them is pus or mucus). And managed to pull a victory out for the Guard. I got some more pics if you want me to dump them but share your pics too anons.

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>>50984875

Ah, so you admit that they look fat. Good.

Here's a silhouette of the new Sisters of Cattle so everyone else can admit it too.

>>50984891

Why is the trim of your base silver?

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>>50984742
Maybe?

Rhinos are Repressors. Retribution go inside the Bastion with Vyridian.

does any one have a proper pdf of the planateray onslught book the epub has errors in it and wont load right needs a reupp or a pdf version of it.

>>50984796
i've seen people use the Glotkin, though they're more the size of the daemon lord

>>50984833
They are not fat, and even if they'd be, who the fuck cares.

>>50984760
Not really. You just have to have a variety of units to handle different situations. Instead of spamming one type of unit you need to make sure you have a way to deal with all threats.
Flyers are the exception to this and if your opponent brings one.in my opinion It's fine to list tailor

>>50984913
Dumb question. Do buildngs have hull points or can they only be destroyed with a Pen on the building damage chart of a 6+

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>>50984926

Landwhale apologists are the worst.

MOOOOOOOOOO

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>mfw anti-Sisterfags are so butthurt about the Sororitas getting new models they have to start baiting about the quality of those models to hide their tears

>>50984905
I think it fit with how most of my army is mechanised. And since it was Martian Ironcrust on the bases I felt it just contrasted nicely.

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>>50984904
>T. NoLife McCheetosDust

Go back to your edgelord marines.

>>50984891
Didnt you post these last thread?

>>50984943
It's one dude that shits up the place.

>>50984928
Bringing an appropriate Inquisitor against a demon, heretic, or xenos force is list tailoring and you should be ashamed.

>>50984928
>You just have to have a variety of units to handle different situations.

Explain how a take-all-comers lists could handle, say, an entire army of Knights, footslogging Ork Boyz spam, a Tau gunline, and Dark Eldar MSU splinter hell. Taking a wide variety of units reduces your ability to effectively handle specific threats, leaving you vulnerable to extremely slanted lists.

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>>50984943

I would've bought some, if they didn't have muffin tops.

>>50984943
>inb4 "Sister fags are so desperate for new models they'll defend these hideous fat-asses."

>>50984961
He post's his to get other anon to post thier armies. He's doing a good service

>>50984961
Yeah I just like using some of the pics I have to get others to post about their games and armies. That and I really love that picture in particular. I took some more if anyone wants me to dump them.

>>50984926
Honestly I can't remember. Looking at Stronghold assault, this things don't have Hull Points.

Also Battlements make reference to upper floors of ruins... Something 7th is missing.

Damn it, can anyone explain or at least point me in the right direction for the rules to this shits.

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>>50984957

>posts we wuz kangs an shit

>>50984742
>>50984913

May I ask what program is this. I have seen you anons use it for weeks now but I didn't want to ask and look like an idiot.

>>50984995
Was meant for >>50984935.

New SoB are so fat that I click by accident

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>>50984978

>>50985005
>look like an idiot.
Too late. Read the OP.

>>50984975
My GSC list can rape all of these without a single alteration :^)

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>>50985005
Anon stop.

>>50985025
Why do people never read the OP?

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>>50984949
>I think it fit with how most of my army is mechanised. And since it was Martian Ironcrust on the bases I felt it just contrasted nicely.

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>>50985013
>https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator
Is this what you are talking about?
my stupidity has broke the internet because all I am getting is 503 service unavailable page.

>>50985022
Coateaz attached to 4 infantry squads with mortars? Could that theoretically bombard any unit coming in from anywhere on the table?

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What do you guys think of this BT Initiate I painted?

>>50984975
It would be taking a balanced list to fight all of your opponents. Like having a Thunderfire cannon in your list to deal with infantry swarms,Devestators with plasma and lascannons to take out vehicles and maybe a few Tac squads with melta guns to deal with enemy infantry and vehicles when they get close. That's what I meant by fielding a variety of units become some units are better than others at different things.

>>50985030

Because they make the assumption it hasn't changed since the last time they've read it. This army list app is relatively new.

>>50985050
It looks amazing anon but kinda hard to see it all at once.

>>50985050
Is that Mark 2 or 3 anon? And it looks nice how many points of BT do you have?

>>50985050
i think it's cool even though i think the bt colour scheme is boring

>>50985046
Coteaz is limited by 12". Not even of his unit, of Coteaz himself.

Which is a shame, because otherwise you could stick in a squad of Medusa Siege Cannons and one-shot any unit of anything that tried to deep strike anywhere.

>>50985050
Looking pretty nice anon. However when doing white you don't wanna just start with pure white and call it a day. Start with an off white and use pure white as highlights

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>>50985050
Looks hungry. Needs some pie.

>>50984742

Looks like fun anon, I wouldn't even tailor my list to play it though, because that's not nice to do.

>>50985046
No, they have to come in within 12" of him.

Also I would just lock that turn 1 during deployment and his rule would never trigger.

>>50985045
Working fine for me at the moment. Odd.

>>50985046
>mortars
>doing anything
Anon...

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Scheme for the Veritian Fortunates.

Thoughts on it? Their name?

Fluff is they come from Veritia, a barren mining world bathed in radiation. They got the name because they get picked from the PDF via random lottery, and get to leave the shitty planet behind.

Their motto is "Luck is always on our side."

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>>50985077
That's what I did. I used Ulthuan gray.

>>50985072
Mk. 3 from the Prospero box set. I ahve about 1500 points of Templars, give or take a hundred or so points. I run Templars + Skitarii, with large Crusader squads (either LRC or footslogging) doing the CQC work and Skitarii bringing ranged fire support.

>>50985062
Posted another pic, will post more.

>>50985101
>not taking a second inquisitor with servo-skulls

>>50984742
Air cavalry to counter this
/tailored

>>50985073
30k Ordo Reductor can actually pull that off. With Minotaurs, Baneblades and Ordinatii, if you really want to overkill something. They have little servo-skull things that grant interceptor to friendlys within 3", and lower enemy cover within 12".

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The squats will never die.

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Right side.

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>>50984891
>tfw no recent games
>no games means no motivation to paint and build because they'll never see the light of day
Da boyz are restless...

Maybe il finally look in to that Facebook thing but I'm afraid it will end up a /tg/ horror story.

>>50985136
Servo skulls don't affect CA.

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>>50985085

>Moldlines EVERYWHERE

>>50984928
I agree about the Flyer part. If they didn't make Hydras so useless against non-Flyers, I wouldn't be so annoyed by them.

>>50985136
There are no servo-skulls in Imperial Agents, and good luck finding a player who's going to let you use an out of date rulebook that doesn't have a hardcopy now that IA is in print just to use a single cheesy piece of wargear that probably doesn't even actually work.

>>50984988
I always appreciate you posting more pictures GGA. You're like my big brother who I want to be like. I'm so excited to have my army painted soon so I can take pictures of games too.

>>50984891

Non recent games, sadly. The last game I played was the pic on the unpainted GW terrain.

>>50985162
>good luck finding a player who's going to let you use an out of date rulebook

Not out of date, GW said so.

>>50984975
You can also accept that every list has a weakness, and no, you can't expect to cover for it.
I'd rather have an army that is strong against 2 of the examples, even with 1, weak to 1, instead of being strong against 2, weak against 2.

>>50985154
Good thing you can't see them from three feet up among 7 other guys in terrain that'll probably be removed turn 2 : ^)

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Rear view.

I use a watered down Rhinox hide to recess shade black; it adds a cool weathered effect that suits the Templars. For edge highlighting black, I use a graphite pencil. I'm not looking to win any competitions for my painting.

>>50985070
Hey accidentally replied to someone else, here's the answer to your question:

Mk. 3 from the Prospero box set. I have about 1500 points of Templars, give or take a hundred or so points. I run Templars + Skitarii, with large Crusader squads (either LRC or footslogging) doing the CQC work and Skitarii bringing ranged fire support.

>>50985162
>out of date
Nice meme my friend but it's wrong.

IA isn't a codex and thus doesn't replace the codexes of the factions included.

>>50985162
As others said, you can use either. Inquisition PDF is still being sold online so it's still in use.

I use it to field Karamazov so he can bombard my Conscripts in close combat every turn.

>>50985124
My best friend got me mortar teams for Xmas. He means well and I have to use them now.

>>50985205

>large Crusader squads (either LRC or footslogging) doing the CQC work

muh dick

Anon, you just keep on truckin'. People playing purely to fluff like that are the best kind of people.

>>50984995
I just looked in the core and a small building has 3 HP medium building has 4 HP and a large building has 5HP

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>>50985171
Dumping for you anon.

Thoughts on Dr. Zoidbork's Codex: Orks Rewrite?

>>50985059

It's been in the OP for over a month now.

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Is this a decent Guard army? It is what I normally run at my flgs and it has had mixed results. If I play kill points I lose; if I play objectives I win 50% of the time.

Any suggestions?

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>>50985213
Funny cause it says "Codex" right there on the cover. Not supplement.

It only doesn't replace Grey Knights and Deathwatch which have their own current books in print. I won't accept games using defunct digital-only books.

>>50985162
>Supplement has factions in them
>Factions codex are out of date because they are inside a Supplement

I know the IA sucked and you want to get rid of the idiotic triple rip Tide jetbikes with a single inquisitor with no upgrade but servo skulls.

Personally I think you should stop playing tournaments if you are bother by waacfags

>>50985238
Houserules/10

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>>50985050
>>50985085
>>50985131
>>50985147
>>50985187

>>50985233
Thank you. I wanted to have fun with my games and play the Templars as they are suppose to be played. Plus I love it when I take my 16 man squad out of my LRC and have people ask in disbelief "that's one squad?" to which I reply, with an expression that can only be described as ZEAL upon my face:

"Black Templars motherfucker"

>>50985252
Why it doesn't replace the GK or DW?

It is has the exact same writing. If it replace SoB or Inquisition it would also replace GK, DW and maybe Mechanicus due to poor wording.

Till GW doesn't clear their own mess IA doesn't replace shit

>>50985252
They even answered the question directly stating that IA doesn't overwrite the online codices. So really, it's just your opinion and you saying no to games for this reason is you being a dick.

>>50985275

I've been doing the exact same smug bastardry with the new Death Guard rules, fielding 20-strong CSM squads.

>20 Marines
>Fearless
>Relentless
>Feel No Pain
>T5

PRAISE THE MOTHERFUCKING GREATFATHER

>>50985278

Except it DOESN'T replace SoB. They literally have two codexes now according to GW.

>>50985237
>>50985254
>>50985270
Awesome. Thank you GGA. Hold that line little buddies.

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Guardsmen about to get fucked in melee. Turns out space aids+Daemon weapons hurt.

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>>50985252
>>50985162

>>50985154
Perhaps you've never faced the horror of guardsmen pants? They're a bitch to fix because the pants are so wrinkled and the moldline runs right down a pocket that if your not careful can be damaged in the process.

Not bad on its own, but now remember that a typical IG army needs fifty of these fuckers and it starts to make you very apathetic towards moldlines.

>>50984833
They have core muscles
The sort needed to work.

If you want fapbait there's wyches and banshees.

>>50985312

Send another email, get another answer. Its always been that way with GW CS

>>50985299
I was supporting the double codex situation. Just asking why the faggot thinks GK and DW are save of codex replacement when the same fucking wording is used for every single faction inside of the Impirial Clusterfuck

>>50985283
Then I'm a dick.

When you can put down a paper copy of your rulebook and point to the page to show me where the rules for servo skulls are, you can use them.

>>50985296

It's like you're playing 30k all over again.

I wish NL got their +1Hit/Wound for out numbering in 40k, too, though raptor troops are still awesome.

>>50985305
How big do you run your blob squads? I like to have 1 of 40 Conscripts and 1 of 4 Infantry Squads combined, both with Priests and IA Astropaths.

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Well i'm in love with my airbrush
She's high maintence, but she makes priming and blending/OSL a dream to do

Shame GW paints are an utter cunt to pour into the cup

>>50985326
Just going to ignore GW because they disagree with you, huh?

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>>50985238
Same grade as 0din's.

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My plasma vets were able to do better killing his mutilators and his pysker with their plasma guns. But taking casualties from the Land Raider.

>>50985312
This is literally just damage control because of SoBfags whining about Celestine not being in the book. Now that she is being included in the new Fall of Cadia supplement, there's no reason for anyone to consider the old digital codex valid anymore. I certainly won't.

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What do you guys think of the Storm Wardens?

I think they're neat.

>>50985252
You sound like you aren't worth the time to play against anyway.

How does Shadowsun sans drones perform?

I'm running her in a squad of 6 marker drones and a Commander with a varied loadout but primarily he's to be used as a bodyguard and drone-controller with two weapons as befits the situation. None of those "He doesn't shoot so the rest get a bonus" malarkey.

>>50985296
Nice. I'm pretty new, and have yet to play against anything other than Orks, Imperial Guard, or Genestealers, by ai look forward to fighting some Death Guard at some point.

>>50985329
I wish to see your games where you bring every single one of the books GW has spout out for the bloody game.

Fucking idiot going against digital because muhhh paper

>>50985356
So is Kaldor Draigo squatted too, since he's not in IA either?

>>50985296
>TFW you field 7 strong units.

It's not even entirely on purpose, it's just I have models for 3x7.

>>50985362
I have my Codex and core rulebook, those are the only books I need.

Is Saint Celestine brunette or blond?

>>50985344

Of course not anon, I sent an email and am waiting a response. In the past its never been consistent. So if I get a newer response that says you can't, will you ignore GW?

In the meantime, will go buy TO or group consensus because I really don't care what the people of the internet say, I don't play them after all.

>>50985357
I like'em.

>>50985356
Honestly beside Celestine, the IA codex is better for SoB.

We now going to have 2 valid Saints thanks to GW incompetence

>>50985357
Best colour scheme of the franchise OC' chapters.

>>50985365
No, because Grey Knights have a current hardcopy codex.

>>50985252
>I don't care if GW ok'd it, it's my way or the highway
Gee, you sound like a fun guy to play with!

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>>50985321

>defending Sisters of Muffin Tops

>>50985336
I run a fifty man Guard blob to get delicious overwatch with five flamers.

>>50985394
>>50985359
>faggots trying to abuse old rules just to use servo skulls with their WAAClists complaining I'm the one not worth playing
WEW
E
W

>>50985353
Aw yeah, Kasrkin models. Did you use them as Vets with Carapace?

I used to use Kasrkin models for vets with Carapace, but now I've changed them to Scout Marines with shotguns and the Beret head spares from the Scion starter box.

>>50985380

Fat.

>>50985380
However you paint her.

>>50985417
>LE SISTERS ARE FAT MAYMAY

>>50985411
More like, people who used to use things are a little butthurt that a new thing came out and didn't do anything new, but instead removed things for what felt like no reason.

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>>50985317

I'm quite intimate with IG. I've been collecting them since second edition. I've worked on hundreds of guardsmen. If I can do it for my 300+ guardsmen, you can do it for you 50+ army. I believe in you.

>>50985404
Can you combine infantry squads but still have them in individual Chimeras?

>>50985411
We're reaching new levels of autism right now.

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Guardsmen getting slaughtered in melee.

>>50985417
Isn't a hair colour, moron.
Your stupid maymay isn't funny, go back to le reddit.

>>50985434
Welcome to the last 8 years of playing Tyranids Imperiumfag. Forgive me for not crying tears over your single lost piece of wargear that was being abused in every tourney list to make games less fun.

>>50985389

I love how it's better because of incompetence.

>>50985350
I checked my regular 1.500 points list and I still end up at 1.500 points.
It swapped some points around, traded the shitty mod rule with the old mob rule, returned the old ramshackle table including the S3 hits and allowed my burnaboys to take a nob.

>>50985433

>chubby-chaser detected

>>50985403
No skin visibly overlap their waistline, your argument is objectively wrong.

Also skinny warrior women meme is worse than tank-top armour.

>>50985440

Did those Termies run amok through your lines or did you manage to kill one or two before they did?

>>50985391
Yes, it's called imperial agents and Drago isn't in it.

If you want to use out-dated cheese you may as well go futher back to the more powerful codexes but good luck finding people to play with.

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Then on my turn two my outflankers came in.

>>50984943
>about the Sororitas getting new models
>3 SJW models
>not even for SoB army
>meanwhile SoB models are still unupdated.

>>50985462

Fat-apologists are the worst.

>>50985404
That's how to do. I run my 40 guys with Autocannons and Flamers. First Rank Second Rank with Prescience. I've also been thinking about experimenting with the Commander Aquila piece of wargear for preferred enemy, but I'm not sure if he needs to be out of his transport for the buff to work.

>>50985438
Well, once they are combined they are no longer different squads, they are one unit. So they can't each have a Chimera. However, you can combine all the squads but also take transports for them. They just can't ride in them since they will number at the minimum as a 20 man squad.

>>50985438
Or could you have the Chimeras separate but still obsec?

>>50985476
And shitposting is a rule violation.

I can't even tell who's trolling who anymore.

Sistersfags and anti-sistersfags are both literally the worst.

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>>50985460

Will we ever get Tartaros armor in 40k? I just want to sweep with my [spoilers]Night Lords[/spoiler] after they assault from my Dreadclaw.

>>50985451
You mean, made it less fun for people playing unfun armies. It was more like balancing out the stupid gay armies rather than taking away their fun. It made the game balanced in a way of "You have your gay rules, and I have my gay rules, this is perfect'.

>>50985450

Om-nom-nom-nom...

>>50985463
I had Misfortune as one of my psychic powers so I was just furiously spamming that into melee. Somehow my Rending bayonets managed to get through his armor and killed most of his squad.

>>50985481
So you could run 40 men with 4 Chimeras?

>>50985488

It's always been the anti-sisters fags. The three of us who play sisters aren't even phased at this point.

>>50985488
Initial shitposters are cancer, but repliers are enablers.

So, hide and report them both.

>>50985496
>You mean, made it less fun for people playing unfun armies.
No, no I do not mean that.

Anyone taking servo-skulls was a jackass. There's a reason they removed them from the new book.

>>50985504
Yes exactly, 4 empty Chimeras, unless you had other units on the table hop into them later. It could be a way to make them like mini-Hellhouds with double Heavy Flamers.

>>50985491
Doesn't it have identical rules to Indomitus pattern? Just grab some from the Burning of Prospero box.

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>>50985487

>defends muffin-tops
>accuses others of shitposting

>>50985519

Tartaros termies can sweeping advance, though.

>>50985454
Remember the GW stream?
Not even the guys who WRITE the rules know how to fucking play the game.

THEY GOT ALL THE RULES WRONG
It's wasn't even fine detail stuff, you had marines charging out of rhinos and taking armour saves vs ap3 bolters.

I knew the guys at GW were clueless but I never expected it to be this bad.

>>50985513
I guess all those people using Celestine and Karamazov were jackasses too. I guess a bombardment from a 200 point sink model was just too op.Same with a T3 melee unit. Too strong and they are basically free!

The reason they removed them is from whiny babies like you. Weh, my OP tournament list isn't stomping because of those stupid rules!

God, you're a piece of shit. I'm glad you're not in my area because I would probably just smash your models and you. You clearly didn't get beat enough by your lazy parents.

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Then on turn three he disembarked his plague marines right up to my Russes. His plasma plague marines were only able to get a glance in on my Excutioner. And my Guardsmen continued to die in melee.

>>50985487
So ban yourself, cubby chaser.

>>50985534

Why don't you try forging the narrative for once in your life you mong though taking armour saves against ap3 bolters is fucking stupid, fuck them

>>50985517
Not a bad idea since I don't own any hellhounds.

>>50985005
This has to be a meme. I propose that all List Filenames are now, "ListBuilderisinOP.jpg"

>>50985540
Go Guardsmen go, beat up the the fatties. Also I hope that Executioner had a good time with those Plague Marines.

>>50985451
Anon he was talking about the stupid Henchmen formation. That was a unit in the previews codex

The servo-skull is not a problem.

Also Acolytes squads can't use the transport they buy because they are from a different formation.

Hence the bitching

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Here is some fun rules for various battlefields in 40k for those who are interested

>>50985510
>he says while replying, irony completely lost on him
WEW

>>50985554
They won't read those either.

>>50985266
fuck off

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>tfw will never get cool exclusive minis for reasonable prices because don't live near Warhammer World

anyone else think this is horse shit?

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Then on my turn everything died. Battle Cannon got a direct hit on his plasma plague marines wiping out over half the unit. Then the Executioner and Vanquisher with their plasma sponsons did this to a full unit of Plague Marines with melta guns.

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>>50985538
Holy shit anon, you seem really upset.

Are you actually arguing that GW did anything because tourneyfags asked for it?

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>>50985573
What do you think of my converted trukk?

>>50985502
>Pretending-To-Be-Retarded.jpg

Clorox is under the sink. Kill yourself outside so your mum doesn't have to roll your fat corpse out.

>>50985582
>Space Marine shit.
>Cool.

Your poor taste is indicative of a lack of reasoning, and explains why you're so poor.

Would a giant maggot work as a Beast of Nurgle?

>>50985582

Ebay motherfucker.

>>50985583
That sweet satisfying feeling. I should try a Vanquisher with Plasma Sponsons for some crowd control. I really need to get magnets for the different weapons.

>>50985582
Models i can understand, but books/formations are bullshit

>>50985464
so teh deathwatch codex is also supplanted by imperial agents? man im some glad i play 40k with my friends.

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Melta veterans got three pens on his Land Raider and Exploded it and on the other side of the table my Plasma vets charged his Land Raider and killed it with a melta bomb.

>>50985545
They didn't even try to forge the narrative, when someone pointed out their mistakes they just went 'oops' and moved on.

>>50985592
Can we get a closeup?

Also how do I convert combi-weapons for my deathwatch? It's my first SMurf army.

>>50985601
>legio custodes
>space marine

Are you retarded?

>>50985360
Anyone?

>>50985606

Yes, of course.

>>50985534

Go read the bat rep from the 5th WD sisters. If I can find mine, I'll post pics. It's a tragedy.

>>50985608
>paying 50x the retail price to scalping fucks

lmao

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>>50985380
Brunette I think

>>50985627
I tried it once, but it kept trying to wriggle off the board. Better to use models instead.

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Then my Demolisher after losing his squadron mate to a Land Raider lascannon killed a Rhino giving me a sizeable advantage in points.

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>>50985623
like this?

So do ork smasha guns cause the target to collapse into itself like a big grav gun or do they "reach" out to the target and do gravity fuckery like... well a big version of the gravity gun from half life. Could probably have thought of better comparisons but hopefully you get what I mean.

>>50985643
I hate whoever this shitty artist is that they keep using in new books.

>>50985619
Melta bomb Vets are severely underrated. I've blown up so many MCs with them. "Okay so I killed 3 of them, now you go. Why 7 dice? I thought you were having your sergeant use his melta bomb. Oh, they all have melta bombs."

>>50985619
>Random splotches of Nurgle's Rot and BftBG.
I hate this.

>>50985658
Yes.
Also some hit the target with lances pf pure concussive force

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Commissar and last of the Guardsmen desperately trying to hold the line. They lasted till turn 5 before they finally fell in battle.

>>50985625
>genetically engineered super soldiers in special armour.

They're space Marines. Sure, not officially in the lore, but that's just a gotcha moment to get in the way of actual discussions.

>>50985658
Gravity gun

The armoury entry says something along the lines of it picking vehicles up and smashing them in to the ground over and over.
Hence the name.

>>50985643
My daughter makes better art than this shit. She still can't paint inside the lines.

At least her young age is the excuse what is GW excuse for this shit?

>>50985671
I thought it was one grenade type weapon per squad these days, or is this an exception because you bought seven of them?

>>50985698
Aint' that the lifta-droppa?

>>50985671
Not allowed as per the FAQ.

>>50985701
That's how everybody played it up until GW announced that grenades in melee are "thrown" in the FAQ, and tankbustas + demovets lost their moment in the sun.

>>50985701
Nope, it's cheatin'

>>50985713
What FAQ says you can't use more than 1 Melta Bomb in close combat against an MC?

Any word on the new rules for the tech guy?

>>50985687

Were you having a stroke when you were painting that commissar?

>>50985625
>Space marine^2
>not a space marine

>>50985723
The official one on FB?

>>50985708
That physically picks them up and drops them.

This smashes 'em in to the ground so it's different.

>>50985696
>o-oh no... I've fumbled my point! Quick, backtrack and redirect! Maximum handwaving!

>>50985723
The official one. You get one grenade per unit.

>>50985601
>I don't like thing
>EVERYONE ELSE MUST NOT LIKE THING
Fuck off anon

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>>50985663
>>50985700
Sure, Dumbfag. Sure.

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Then he moved and consolidated here trying to kill my pysker but by this time my lead was so great he decided to just end it there. Giving the Guard a hard fought victory.

>>50985750
>>50985741
Yeah, one grenade to throw. Where does it say you can't use them all against an MC

>>50985643
Cawl appears to be sporting a groovy metal moustache there.

>>50985741
The one on FB was the first draft, which they took comments on. The official one is at https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/22/warhammer-40000-rulebook-final-faq/

>>50985744
>picking vehicles up and smashing them in to the ground

>This smashes 'em in to the ground so it's different.

>>50985750
>>50985768
One grenade per unit, per turn.

>>50985768
One. Grenade. To. Throw.
One. That means you can't use them all; you can use one.

>>50985750
I love how GW FAQ against their own rules.

Like the template weapon draft. I'm sure someone that get constantly table makes the FAQ.

>>50985768
That part where it says you can't throw more than one, it being an MC doesn't create some kind of loophole.

>>50985781
>>50985792
But you can't ever throw melta bombs.

>>50985592
Needs more plasticard/10

>>50985765

You should really make a quote chain rather than a bunch of random posts.

>>50985643
she is noticeably thinner in that drawing.
huh

>>50985780
If yerz got a problem wif it ya can take it up wif da mek.
He'll smack yer head around so yer stop using it to ovvr-fink things and muck around!

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>>50985760
It is ugly as fuck art. Even compared to the same release art is shit.

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>>50985593

>being this butthurt

Do you know where you are, tumblrina?

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>>50985801
>>50985768

>>50985801
That's what people said when the FAQ came out.

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>>50985643

I like the Magos

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>>50985845
bigger

>>50985800
At least it isn't useless. Still guarantees one meltabomb a turn no matter who dies.

>>50985749
>Be overly technical, miss point.

You're technically correct, but really just a faggot.

>>50985845
It looks so fucking World of Warcraft for some reason. I want Blanche back, and I never fucking thought I'd say that.

>>50985606

The biggest, most horrific maggot you can manage. Oozing all sorts of horrificness between the folds and creases of it's infected, leathery skin, leaving a trail that pollutes the soil for millenia.

I'm bored with GW's current Nurgle aesthetic, which ends up just being "Green skin, blisters". Nurgle should be fundamentally "I don't even want to LOOK at that fucking thing". If it doesn't make you nauseous, it's not Nurgle enough.

>Make Nurgle Disgusting Again

>>50985870
Original point being "boohoo I don't like space marines and anyone who likes them is dumb"

Kill yourself.

So are combi-weapons generally the best option for those Deathwatch formations that give you preferred enemy against various FO slots, except maybe the anti-heavy one?

>>50985874
I still say the wrong man died, I'l trade Blanche for Wayne England in second.

>>50985886
I thought the rotkings or whatever they are called. were pretty good nurgle models.

>>50985861
>>50985860
Seems pretty gay.

>>50985847
I'm not the same guy, maymay fag. I couldn't give a shit about Sisters, your meme is just pathetic and dumb and lacking any sort of humour beyond that of a 12 year old.

>>50985903
Depends on the unit, the Frag Cannons is pretty baller vs infantry/elites.

>>50985894
Look at the space Marine fanbase for all the evidence you need.

>>50985847
The filename makes you look like a retard. Fix Your.

>>50985894
I missed the whole convo, but I saw this and yeah that's pretty much true. Playing against Marines, listening to people talk about Marines and how Marines look in general are all so fucking boring. All the other armies are way more fun and interesting. If I see one more faggoty teen slam down his drop pod list I'm gonna quit. The local meta is just Marines everywhere aren't they cool. No. They aren't.

>>50985937
I thought the Frag Cannon would be the anti-heavy weapon, or would that be a load of meltas/combimeltas?

>>50985961

>t. Tau player

go paint your riptides, dip

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>>50985874
>i want blanche back
you take that back right now
i'll take shitty plain art that stays down to earth over over the top bullshit that will inspire shitty fucking models any day
this is the man who gave us sigmarines

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>>50985865
what a bro

>>50985961
Not a single 40k army is "cool," or at least not so cool that you can't sum them up in a single sentence and make them sound retarded.

>>50985961

The only good marines are CSM. Because at least they're actually interesting, and with Traitor Legions, they play fundamentally different from one another.

Compared to loyalist marines, at least, where the only marines who play even noticably different are Wolf Wolves.

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Do we have the Audiobook?

>>50985979

You make it sound like he personally forced Sigmarines on warhammer lol. And the shitty models look nothing like his art (which is much more subtle and nuianced)

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>>50985865
He's a big guy

>>50985925

>claims it couldn't give a shit
>opens its cumcatcher and spergs out

Sure thing, fatty.

>>50985979
It's also the man who gave us god-tier skitarii you inbred plebian.

>>50985973
Frag can do most.
2 s6 rending templates
or 2 7/3 - 9/2 slugs

>>50985923
Yeah, now I have even less of a reason to charge tanks with my firewarriors.

>>50985979
Warhammer 40k literally wouldn't exist today if it weren't for Blanche. It would have been some shitty generic mediocre sci-fi and died off after a few years.

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>>50986012
>At least 3 sisters tall

>>50986012

Why must you do this?

for you

>>50985974
Shut it dumpster. I don't play Tau.
>>50985992
Nothing is cool cause this hobby is gay. No, actually there are many cool things in this hobby. Marines aren't one of them.
>>50985994
I'll give you that.

>>50986027

Yeah, because there was such a reason to do so before.

>WAH WHY CAN'T MY BASIC TROOPS WITH 30" S5 GUNS ALSO BEAT THINGS IN ASSAULT TOO

Tau players are always the most entitled.

>>50986064
>there are many cool things in this hobby
name one

They give any details of the new inquisitor model?

>>50985923
Cheating is gayer

>>50985994

but SM have woof-woofs, grav spam, grav spam on bikes, etc

>>50986076
>Tau players are always the most entitled.
If you got your tank charged by fire warriors you deserve to lose it. But way to cheer on a change that made demo veterans and tankbustas shit because of your hateboner for Tau.

>>50986085
You mean rules? I don't think we know anything new. The live stream on the 21st did mention she's both a Psyker and Ordo Hereticus though.

>>50986082
Religious parasite cults to a swarm God.
Cyborg armies

>>50985671
I had three melta guns in the squad they did the work.
They also had Demolitions too because fuck vehicles.

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>>50986009
meh they're still over the top as fuck and carry all the qualities that make aos designs shit to my eyes
huge shoulderpads, weird golden facemasks, way to fucking big crests
>>50986015
>>50986038
his art still looks like shit to me

>>50986146
>his art still looks like shit to me
philistine

>>50986119
The Space Inquisition, and the Space Demons.

>>50986009
>subtle
Painting baroque and excessively detailed things in 50 shades of brown does not make them subtle.

>>50986165
Teutonic Knights in space on an eternal crusade

>>50986146
That's because you have utterly shit taste.

>>50986015
No
the skitarii were designed by Jes Goodwin

It's blatantly obvious.

>>50986087
Not when the cheating creates superior rules. Sorry your gay mc got rekt.

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>>50985992

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>>50986146
Nurgle tits when?

>>50986216
So that's what happened to Veridyan.

>>50986076
>because there was such a reason to do it before
>haywire grenades
It worked better than shooting against many vehicles.

>entitled
I'm entitled to be pretty meh about the change, personally. Fire Warriors shouldn't really have been charging anything anyway, and now I don't have to spend pointcash on pulse grenades.

>Tau hate
I mean, would you rather I take Fire Warriors and charge the occasional dred or my riptide wing? Because right now you're cheering that I have less reason to spend points on more flavorful, more balanced units instead of riptides, dipshit. I try not to waac-off in your face, but the FAQ makes the alternatives less attractive.

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What if... Space Skaven?

>>50986206
Very possible for the specific models. I haven't checked who did the concepting. But most of the AdMech aesthetic is directly from Blanche.

>>50986206
The models were done by Goodwin, based on art from Blanche

>>50985085
Oh hey it's you, kitbashed MoO Anon. How is he doing? Has he performed well?

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>>50986235

>>50986235

That niche is already filled by Genestealer Cults.

>>50986235
already exist.
>>50986253
hrud have changed but abhuman mutants in chapter approved were that, the ones that were short and grotted themselves.

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>>50986235

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Rhinos are Repressors.

Why IA is missing those is beyond me, sounded like an easy cash grab.

Why the Acolytes in a Valk? Mostly due to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loRDrWCv10

If I wanted to waacfag I would probably just play Tau or Eldar, make the most broken shit ever, add a cheap SoB CAD and call it a SoB army.

>>50986268
>hrud have changed
What was retconned, can be retconned again.

>>50986255
Do they have warpstone weapons and poison globadiers?

>>50986234

>I'm either allowed to do dumb shit and play my army like a retard or break the game

Tau players, everyone

>>50986280
Mining Lasers and Demolition Charges.

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>>50986280
>Do they have warpstone weapons and poison globadiers?
Clan skyre

>>50986251
He's been cleaned up and based. Has only hit his target once since and wiped 27 gaunts 8" from my gunline. A

>>50986292
Those are the parts least represented in 40k, we already have assasin cults, plague cults and two body-horror cults.

>>50986283
Next you'll say that it's okay for vespids to be shit because the Tau codex is good.

>>50986271
skitarii + skaven = skitaven?

>>50986320

Until every codex has every unit be viable, I will laugh at Tau players thinking having some of their units be mediocre means GW are spitting in their face.

>>50986321
The rad weapons, vanguard rad aura and kataphons are rather skaven'ish.

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>>50986320
Vespid are fucking god tier you stupid pleb. Don't bash them just because 1d4chan tactics page said they were bad.

>>50986320
Yes, because fucking MC and GC exist in that codex.

Like I do not know if they wanted a MC or something like the Great Knarloc was a thing. Do the Tau like the actual united alien federation.

>>50986192
Absolutely not.

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>>50986297
Currently basing my whole force. I got through my Officers, Vox, and specials but I've hit a depression speed bump when I see I still have an entire foam tray of lasguns to do plus scions and heavy. Even if they don't look great it's going to feel damn good to have one of the only fully painted forces at my LGS this weekend .

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>>50986234
Here's for hoping that EMP 'nads will become squad leader upgrade again instead of whole squad. Preferably for stealth suits/vespids/kroots too.

>>50986249
No.
Goodwin hasn't sculpted models since the 90s.
He exclusively does concept art.

>>50986236
INdirectly.

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>>50986394

and the dark eldar but y'know

>>50986283
Look, bro, your Tau Player meme is cute and all. Really adorable. But you're a fucking retard. When you view a low-end Tau nerf as a strictly Tau problem haha fuck tau, but bitch about the prevalence of riptides, you're a fucking hypocrite.

And quite frankly, when I go to a store and my Tank-Tau with converted-guard allies is called OP WAAC Faggotry, well, fuck. I'm less and less inclined to walk on eggshells for you and your "fluffy" skyhammer list.

>>50986321
Other way around.
Goodwin has always had a huge hard-on for the gasmask+jezzail+trenchcoat combo.

The skitarii are the last in a long line of gasmask+jezzail+trenchcoat concepts and illustrations by Goodwin, whereas the space skaven date back to the 2nd edition

>>50986400
Yeah, I know he only did the concept art.

How are admech as an army?
It's a new year and I think I'll be doing admech.
Is it legal to run two of the formations in the start collecting skitarii boxes in one list?

>>50986338
Oh, you think I was insulted or offended by GW's nerf? Nope, I'm just like, "Well, it's getting harder to play a waterhazards list."

>>50986412
>I'm less and less inclined to walk on eggshells for you and your "fluffy" skyhammer list.
Skyhammer is fluffy, it just has just fucking retarded rules. WAACfags that use the concept of their army being "fluffy" to deflect accusations of cheese are the scum of the earth that gives the hobby a bad name.

t. Star Phantoms player

>>50986412

Again, your argument is "Unless everything in my book is amazing, I'm only going to take the shit that breaks the game".

You think any ork players have sympathy for you? Any Dark Eldar players? "My standard troop choice, which is one of the biggest bargains of any troop choice is slightly worse at a job they were never designed for!"

Meanwhile orks are paying 6 points for a boy who can't shoot OR melee worth a damn.

Cry me a fucking river while you cram your three riptides inside yourself.

How do I get a Bolter for my Imperial Guard Sergents?

They all have Space Marine hands.

>>50986440
Who cares?
admech and gencults exist solely to be kitbashed into inquisimunda models.