Ork Kodex Diskushin

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We'z oughta' let sum o' da' Boyz loot dem flyin' fingz woil in da skoi'.

>>50979773

Make it viable to run a Green Tide.
> Bundle Run into standard Move distance to save time
> Don't give them FNP for same reason
> Mob rule simplified to Fearless above 10, no tables
> Mobs above 10, Wounds are allocated by the Ork player
> Increased number of special and heavy weapons in the Mob, reduce reliance on Nob
> Models get cheaper as the squad get bigger; 10 plus Nob is 60, the next 10 are 5pts each, the final 10 are 3pts each.
> Mob Up! If a unit breaks Morale in a multi-cpmbat, or flees into coherency with a Bosspole, they can suffer some hits to immediately make a combined unit.

Plus the usual shit about reducing costs and making individual units better.

>>50983756
>Models get cheaper as the squad get bigger
A simple way to do that is to have the cost of additional boys be less than the initial ones.
Example: 10 [whatever] cost 50 points, additional cost 4 a piece.

Orks could use access to a "without numbers" rule, like tyranids though to a lesser extend. Maybe tied to your boss being alive.

arent orks in the fluff dangerous because of attrition and not their individual strength?

maybe giving them some tools like the Death korps or Alpha legion cultists to come back to reserves after they die

>>50979773

The whole randomization thing needs looking at.
Orks really suffer in that they have a whole ton of random rolls, tables and backfiring, which is in character. The problem is that even the 'good' results tend to be level with another race's weapons under standard performance.
For things that are supposed to be random, look at Skaven or Daemons where there is a real kick to them. Alternatively, introduce 'good' randomness like Rending and exploding dice where appropriate.

As an example, Flash Gits. If the whole point of Gitz is that they have low AP values, then just make it part of the Snazzgun's profile.
Or reduce the AP roll to a D3, so it'll always be good.
Or apply Rending alongside a decent profile (Assault 3 S5) so that you get the feel of powerful shooting, with an air of RNG.

>>50979773
How about this for a Mob Rule replacement?

The number of wounds in a unit with 'Ere We Go may replace the leadership value of its models. If this value is 11 or more, the unit has Fearless. If this value is 20 or more, the unit has Feel No Pain (6+). The unit recieves Feel No Pain +1 for each additional 10 wounds after 20. Feel No Pain cannot increase past (2+).

Boss Poles doubles the wounds of the model wielding it, for the purposes of Mob Rule (and thus also decreases when the model loses wounds). This can stack in the same unit.

The Feel No Pain bonus from Mob Rule stacks with the Feel No Pain (5+) provided by Painboyz.

>>50987505
> 20 boys and a painboyz : 4+ FnP
> 40 boys and a painboyz : 2+ FnP
No.

>>50987505
>>50988193

I could accept FnP getting as good as 4+ maybe, but no better than that.

>>50988193
Normally, you can't get a unit of 40 boyz though. The only way you could get 2+ FNP is (a) with Green Tide, which has its own problems or (b) sticking a full unit of 30 with multiple Warbosses and Boss Poles.

But then again 2+ Feel No Pain IS still attainable and it would be overpowered. How about Painboyz no longer grant Feel No Pain, but instead recover D3 wounds on your unit. This can be used to recover lost boyz, or recover wounds on Nobz/characters.

This would incentivise Painboyz into going with elite teams, such as MANz, which also makes more sense from a fluff perspective as only the richer boyz can pay for a Doc's attention.

>>50987505
I would say that 15-19 models gives Stubborn, 20+ models gives Fearless and all units have their count doubled with the exception of Mega Nobz.

>>50995780
I meant have their maximums doubled.

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Gretchins units?

>>50983756
>one of the only ways to run this army is by fielding an exorbitant amount of models
>we should "fix" it by forcing you to use more models

Yer a git.

>>50995956
No.

new grot codex.