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What exactly is dieselpunk? What era is it meant to reflect? What are its main components?

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>>50960320
It's a loose term to be sure. WW1 through the end of WW2 is the general time frame. You get a general idea of the look from the pictures posted. As for the main components, i'm going to borrow an anon's description from an art deco thread, which is not the same but kinda touches on the themes

>Art deco is about hope and this grand, shining future. It's the reason for all those sun beams and thunderbolt design. You run mutants and masterminds in the 1920s where the great war has just ended and prohibition begun. Plenty of badass veterans and grizzled gangsters. Corruption in the streets and the courthouse you cant just punch away, as well as the earliest fbu. While pulp heroes are away on mars andbfar flung jungles, you're in the city as the earliest super heroes. You might fight crazy monsters on occasion, but your biggest issues is making things good for people on the street. You're exotic, stange and powerful, yet still humble and human. Think of the Rocketeer, a man with a jet pack yet able to affect great change. Superman of this kind of period was just an amazingly strong man who could lify cars and was immune to bullets. He fought wife beaters and evil cops. Help the little man to a brighter future. Deliver hope.

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Sky Captain and the World of tomorrow is a good example of a dieselpunk movie.

>>50960411

>Not naming that picture "Imperial Fortress World"

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>>50960317

Wierd War 2 is so sadly under utilized.

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Adding diesel powered mechs and a few armored zepplins to this scene would do it. I'm running out of dieselpunk pictures so I'll be reaching from now on

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>>50960455
God that movie is awful, but holy shit do I love the design aesthetics

>You will never pilot a submersible plane

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The 1920+ is an excellent example of the genre. Guy really knows how to do slavic dieselpunk

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>>50960544
It was the first movie shot fully in CGI. And it showed. Oh god, it showed. Angelina Joli with an eyepatch was genius though

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>>50960585
They totally nailed my gruff, yet flirty commander fetish, while also realizing my love for nose-art and eyepatches. Shame about the plot and how everything looked

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This. This picture right here. It encompasses everything I love about the genre. Roaring 20's Great Gatsby opulence and gritty diesel powered mad science

>>50960668
What about the towering, sharp-edged, brightly-lit metroplexes like >>50960222 and >>50960295?

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Femme Fatales are important for any game run in this setting

>>50960685
Like I said in>>50960411 it's certainly a loose term, and can encompasses a lot of themes from the interwar period. The metropolis style city is definitely a hallmark of the setting, especially when it incorporates mad science

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>>50960164
What's this? A Dieselpunk thread with no Mutant Chronicles? We must rectify this.

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Because fuck you, this absolutely counts.

So how dieselpunk is art deco?

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>>50960732
I have not heard of this game, I'll have to do some investigating

>>50960767
yes

>>50960216
Well played anon

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Japanese mad scientist don't get enough love in this setting

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>>50960732
Mutant Chronicles is an interesting case. Instead of taking place in an alternate reality where technology progressed along post WWII lines, it takes place in a future where more advanced technology had to be hastily retro-fitted with dieselpunk tech.

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>>50960746
I won't lie, I'm totally playing a character who I modelled after Don Karnage.
I'm trying to finagle my way into an Iron Vulture substitute.

>>50960799
Does brutalist architecture count, or is it too far removed (timeline wise it is ~1950 to ~1970)?

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>>50960746
Agreed, waiting for reboot

>>50960897
It's not hard to play Don Karnage. Just be THE MOST FRENCH sky pirate ever.

>>50960901
Nah, that's a little removed. Art deco is a bit more "graceful" than that.

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>>50960901
That's a good question. That's soviet bloc style buildings right? Might be more atom/ray/retro rocket style than anything

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>>50960925
Brutalist buildings are about blunt force and ruggedness. Lots of government and college buildings adopted it in the '50s or '60s.

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>>50960959
I uh. Did not mean to post that picture. Wrong skeleton picture

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>>50960968

Anons? Quick, hopefully inoffensive query: if Steampunk's "magical" counterpart is Gaslamp Fantasy (see: Girl Genius, Deadlands, Castle Falkenstein, Masque of the Red Death), then what is the "magical" counterpart to Dieselpunk?

I mean, it's got to exist - Dishonored is a pretty good /vg/ example of it, what with clockwork automatons and disintegrator gates fuelled by oil from mutant squid-whales coexisting alongside demons and magical talismans - but what would you actually call it?

>>50961137
>what is the "magical" counterpart to Dieselpunk?
Cthulhu mythos.

>>50961137
>Steampunk's "magical" counterpart is [called] Gaslamp Fantasy
News to me.

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>>50961159
tru

>>50961159
Not everything needs to be eldritch, anon. Yes, a lot of the stories took place in the era, but it's not the only thing that should be there.

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>>50961179
Is there another magical element to the dieselpunk genre besides nazi occultism and pulp cults?

>>50961206
Dieselpunk has the rise of superscience and mad science, so it's got that going for it. Any sorts of magic will probably be a spinoff from that.

>>50960908
I thought he was supposed to be Spanish?

>>50960172

how is that even supposed to fucking work

>>50961179
Nevermind that cosmic horror works just as well - if not better in actual scifi. Also, plenty of Lovecraft's stories take place in older eras, like medieval times, antiquity etc.

>>50961206
Depends on if you want to do "Alternate Earth" setting with it or more a fantasy world with dieselpunk-grade technology.

For example, the obvious example of the former is something like Weird Wars 2, where Nazis are conducting blood magic rituals powered by the death camps and the Allies unknowingly have mages fighting on their side and the Japanese have recruited onis as elite super-soldiers.

For the latter, though, look at Dishonored, like I said. The technology is clearly Diselpunky, with whale oil-burning generators that power disintegration fields and clockwork robots and the like, but there's also a powerful spirit-creature called the Outsider making demonic pacts, and runic talismans that grant magical powers. Heck, the PCs of both games are essentially warlocks doing the assassin gig.

>>50961179
It's funny that Eldrich means "related to elves" when elves are now considered the least exotic thing imaginable.

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Asian dieselpunk would be interesting. Crowded cities like singapore and chinese gangsters like the ax gang from kung fu hustle

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nothing better than pulp

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>>50960164

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Legend of Korra was oddly dieselpunk

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>>50960746
The tech fits, but it's not very 'punk'. Too wacky and idealistic.

Also, I don't care what you think, we're still living partly in a dieselpunk era.
We still use trains from the 1980s in britain. The same fucking HSTs they introduced originally, just repainted from BR livery and 'refurbished' so they don't murder your hearing when they move off.
We still have great big rumbly diesel engines with whacking great turbos.
There's still grime and soot everywhere.
Hell, they recently cleaned off the original roof of Paddington station, with the reasoning that letting sunlight in would save money on lighting and the space would improve ventilation.
And they're busily digging and lining a big tunnel to run trains through.

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Weird picture, but it gives a nice feel of the more glamorous side of the genre

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>>50961713
To my mind, though, dieselpunk carried through right up to the early 90s, before all the green politics took hold.

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>>50961723
And while we're using jet engines on aircraft, they still make a shitton of noise and have whacking great big fans in front.
Modern airliner turbofans get something like 80% of their thrust from the bypass fan in front. Most of the engine is just burning fuel to keep that turning.

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>>50961743
Diesels for efficiency, turbines for raw power.

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>>50961758
There's also the fact that the US Navy took WW2 battleships, slapped some missiles and radar-controlled turrets on then, and sent them off to war in the goddamn 90s. And had better effect-per-strike with guns than cruise missiles. The Iraqis surrendered to spotting drones for guns, after all.

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A dieselpunk thread with no Crimson Skies?

For shame!

Crimson Skies and Mutant Chronicles are often credited with CREATING Dieselpunk as a genre.

>>50961741
It wasn't so much the green politics as the microprocessor revolution and the ubiquity of computers.

>>50961783
That's one beautiful, imposing convoy of dreadnoughts right there

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>>50961783
There's also the workhorse of the Soviet airforce, which is a throwback to WW2. Tail guns, props, loud enough to appear on sonar for submerged submarines, gives hearing damage to intercepting fighter pilots. At altitude where there's not much air to transmit noise.

Four fuckhuge turboprop engines, counter-rotating props on each one, supersonic tips, shittons of noise.

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>>50961813

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>>50961830

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>>50961796

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>>50961851

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>>50961851
Yes "fighter recognition chart" totally not something you should print off and use to make Game Counters.

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>>50961869
It is what I saved it off 4chan as.

>>50961877

>>50961813
Isn't that one of those planes that crashed in the Black Sea for being a miserable pile of flying shite held together by memories of the Soviet Union?

I guess the proverb that Soviet technology lasts forever needs to be changed because it's pretty clear that Soviet technology starts to disintegrate after 40/50 years.

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Captain America the first avenger was rare example of cinema in this genre

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>>50961936
No, that was an airliner that crashed. The Tu-95 doesn't have a history of falling out of the sky.
You can't carry a fucking choir on a bomber. You wouldn't put them in the airliner version either, they'd go deaf.

GOOD Soviet tech lasts forever. The badly-made, poorly-maintained stuff like civil airliners? That shit falls apart.

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Dieselpunk for me is aesthetic mixup of cities in the Art Deco style of the roarin' 20 contrasted with military equipment of the 1930-40, a shitton of gasmasks and Adventure Capitalism. Maybe add in soem forgotten cities or strange magics to spice things up.

For a good "baseline" Dieselpuink movie, go watch Atlantis

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Ohh fascism, why must you fit so nicely into this setting

>>50961966
Well, that Russian aircraft carrier off the Syrian coast had to be towed to Syria after it completely broke down in Spanish waters. So yeah, maybe all Soviet tech is decaying by now.

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>>50961973
Atlantis is a damn good movie for the look and feel of advanced tech in the interwar period. Right up until the middle and then its all magic crystals and space Aztecs

>>50961996
Their ships aren't well maintained. Their attitude to nuclear disposal is to designate a sea to dump reactors in.
Considering the amount of smoke that carrier was trailing as it passed britain? I'm shocked it lasted that long.

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>>50962015
Also, the IDF's vehicles are dieselpunk as fuck.

>>50961813
Bears have flown, flies now, and will continue to fly long into the age when turboprops are considered obsolete

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>>50962024
But so is post-soviet tech.

>>50962043
They already are considered obsolete. Supersonic propeller tips were debunked before the Bear flew.

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>>50962043
forgot my damn pic

>>50960411
>Deliver Hope

Clever. I always thought that the Halo universe was Weird War 3, with aliums

>>50962015
I've heard Russian sailors have to shit in buckets and throw it off the railing because all the toilets in the ship have broken down and because it's the only functional aircraft carrier of the Russian Navy left, they just had to skip toilet repairs.

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>>50962081
I suspect as much. Wouldn't put it past them.

>>50962064
I love that. Fighters come, fighters go, only bear remains.

>>50962060
Ugly ugly aircraft.

>>50961977
What kind of BBEG works in this setting besides lolnazis

Would Man In The High Castle, at least the TV interpretation, be considered dieselpunk?

>>50961721
That was just the Roaring Twenties in geenral. A decade of immense decadence and pleasure before the Great Depression crushed everything in the '30s.

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>>50962130
Lolcommies?
Lolterrorists?
Lolaliens?

>>50961796
Crimson Skies is one of THE pulp stories you could ask for. It had globehopping, all kinds of rivalries, sky battles. It was crazy.

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>>50961170
That's just what Girl Genius calls itself to distance itself from shitty steampunk.

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>>50962189
> Fallout
> Working vehicles
> That aren't vertibirds
HERESY.

>>50962130
>mad scientist
>WW1 Mad Baron
>Al Capone but half robot
>Pulp Cultist

>>50962204
>SUBTERRANEAN MOVEMENT DETECTED
>WARNING
>SUBTERRANEAN MOVEMENT DETECTED

>>50962194
Awful art. Amazing setting

>>50960164
What do Dieselpunk and Steampunk even mean?

Cyberpunk is all about exploring the dehumanization of mankind and our increasing isolation as a result of technology. What moral value does Steampunk or Dieselpunk have?

Aren't they both just vapid, vain, immoral fantasies of a world that rapes the Earth?

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>>50962130
JP Morgan

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>>50962204
> Biplane
> Fabric covering
> Open cockpit
> Top speed lower than the stall speed of the day's fighters
> Literally so slow that AA guns couldn't track it properly
> Routinely flew below deck height, at risk of being swamped by the wash of their quarry
> Still crippled the bismark

>>50962277
>Implying fiction needs moral value.
>Implying being an outlet for immoral impulses isn't one of the uses of fiction.

>>50962277
Steampunk is the same as cyberpunk, but applied to the victorian era.
Dieselpunk is applying that to the 1920s-1960s, and right up to the start of the information age.

-punk has become a genetic label and lost most of it's connotations, though.
Much like the punk movement itself.

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>>50962277
I always just took dieselpunk as a quick n' easy terms for media taking place between 1914-1940's with added fantastical elements. It explores dehumanization too, but through industrialization and horrifying warfare. Done wrong they can certainly be vapid and vain, and they are most definitely a world-raping setting based on new war technology and the resource acquisition of most world powers. But it's also a fascinating world that combines espionage, technology, pulp, war and the decadence and ruin of an age past.
As far as steampunk goes, eh, it's too overplayed for me to enjoy anymore

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>>50961713

Those MEs are a creative bunch.

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>>50962403
Necessity is the mother of invention.

When life gives you cold weather, wood, and a plague of submarines, you invent aircraft carriers made of ice bound with sawdust.
When life gives you a desert, scrap metal, the wreckage of 50+ years of warfare, and a population so dirt poor they have to know how to fix cars the west would scrap as 'uneconomical'?
You weld shit together and fight oppression wearing football shirts.

>>50960164
Can we stop shoving punk at the end of themes? It instantly makes them lame.

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>>50962277

Those soul-crushing corporations that make Cyberpunk possible didn't just spring into existence overnight. Steam and Dieselpunk act as prequels to Cyberpunk of sorts, explaining where these companies came from, how they became corrupted, and where they're heading.

Imagine, if you will, and daring entrepreneur using the technology allotted by steam with the intent to better mankind and make a specific good affordable to the poor. This is a time of the wonder of science, and luddites and uprising workers are generally viewed under a villainous light; obsolete stains on society that selfishly seek to hold back progress so that they themselves might remain relevant. As time goes on, this amazing technology that everyone relies on likewise leads to disaster and suffering that would otherwise be impossible, the originally optimistic company becomes jaded and cynical as it has to deal with reality versus ideals, and the punk, someone who began this story as a minor villain, is ultimately vindicated in the end as the age of diesel gives way to the information age and all the things he said about technology ruining humanity are right, while the corporation he berated now no longer serves its original purpose, something it lost in between its founder dying after becoming disillusioned with what he created.

Punk as a whole is tragedy; it's good intentions gone twisted and the technology that was supposed to make life better worsening it. At least, that's what I get out of it when examining Diesel and Steampunk in their relation to Cyberpunk.

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>>50962444
It's the easiest term for what I'm searching for, certainly the most widely recognized. At some point it just gains a permanent place in the cultural lexicon. If there's a better one I'm all ears.

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>>50962507

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>>50962444
Can you go back to tumblr? You need to go back.

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>>50962519

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>>50962538

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>>50962525

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>>50962568
Goons and henchmen in any setting are good. In this setting? Must have.

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>>50962601

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>>50961137
Turbine Fantasy

Captcha: diesel 16171

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>>50962444
>Can we stop shoving punk at the end of themes? It instantly makes them lame.

>>50962525
>Can you go back to tumblr? You need to go back.

Am I missing some vital information here? This conversation seems a bit... nonsensical.

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>>50962632

To the guy that posted warzone stuff in here you fucking rule.

Bauhaus for life.

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>>50962668

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>>50962719

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>>50961813
>tfw you can't unsee it

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>>50961030
The visual design of Atlantis the Lost Empire's submarines and mechanical equipment was generally excellent.

Does anyone have good dieselpunk nazi art? I'm gonna run a campaign and wanna use them as some of the enemies. Should I just ask /pol/?

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>>50961977
>>50962010
are good examples. Castle Wulfenstien is also excellent

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Fire spewing tanks are good for any setting

>>50962488
Interestingly enough, that's basically what happened in Japan.

Most of the massive cyberpunk corporations that control their country descend from the old Zaibatsus from the 19th century.

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This magazine is asking all the right questions

>>50963428
That has to be the most mechanically unsound design for tank propulsion I have ever seen.

And I have seen some dumb looking shit in my day. That looks like a bad idea for something you'd just try to drive, let alone drive through a battlefield.

>>50962488
>examining Diesel and Steampunk in their relation to Cyberpunk
Is there any term that actually refers to the overall aesthetics of the 1940s that isn't "dieselpunk"? Retro-futurism doesn't work because it crosses over into Raygun Gothic territory and refers to how the past saw the future, instead of us taking the past and adding the future to it.

Creating a separate term will at least make the 'punk' autists shut up for once.

>>50963382
I don't know what the fuck this is but it isn't dieselpunk

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This is a strange cross between earlier Victorian culture and diesel based technology

Punk does not suggest 'the dehumanization of mankind'. Punk has always meant placing the aesthetics of a thing first.

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>>50963487
Rule of Cool only gets you so far. And it's just far enough.

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Not to bring 40k into something when it already rules half the board, but take away the other factions and the Imperial Guard are suddenly an interesting take on diesalpunk

>>50963487

Never mind the only way it's really possible would be through wireless energy transfer: those tracks have no transmission, meaning the whole vehicle is being propelled by relatively small internal motors.

>>50961809
Those are pre-dreadnought battleships

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>>50961977

>We're not saying it's nazis: but it's nazis.

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>wtf I love Dieselpunk know.
I didn't even know this existed, thanks for your contributions, anons.

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>>50964348
Ever watched Porco Roso or Castle in the Sky? Miyazaki has some pretty decent lighthearted dieselpunk.

>>50961617
Jesus Christ, she could slit throats with those nipples.

>>50961069
Fuck yes. That is the only anime movie I have ever loved.

>>50962665
nothing vital
>idiot sees words they don't like
>call tumblr implying sjwfaggotcuckbad
easy

>>50960320
>What exactly is dieselpunk?
A stupid name for early industry fiction.

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>>50961936
>Isn't that one of those planes that crashed in the Black Sea for being a miserable pile of flying shite held together by memories of the Soviet Union?

that doesn't exactly narrow it down anonymous, but if you're talking about the one that killed the red army choir a few days ago then no that was a TU-154 which was a hella sweet trijet held together by memories of the Soviet Union (i know a guy who had occasion to fly on a Air Koryo 154 once. he says when they opened the landing gear doors on approach it made the cabin depressurize)

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>>50964423
>Porco Roso

does it still count as dieselpunk if that's just literally how french designed planes look irl

like seriously the french basically invented most of aviation but it was a gong show of aesthetics. pick any year after about 1905, the dumbest looking plane in the world is always either french or scottish.

>>50965750
'punk' doesn't have to use fictional aesthetics, it refers to the general aesthetics of a time period and genre themes.

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>>50963499
Art deco?

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>>50967246

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>>50967257
Finishing the image limit off.

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>>50967307
Russian nuke carriers are dieselpunk as fuck. I want to build a base on top of one.

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>>50967312

>>50960455
This anon gets it. Though it needs to be clear that Dieselpunk is really a subgenre of the Retro-Futurist school of design. It also borrows heavily from Art Deco which can also chart its origins to Retro-Futurist movements.

Sometimes Dadaism likes to show up but we don't talk about Dada.

Holy shit my design/art history degree was actually useful.

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>>50967319
And one last image.

>>50961713
>We still use trains from the 1980s in britain.

Doesn't that mean you're in Thatcherpunk, not dieselpunk, as far as dystopias go?

>>50962488
Corporations did not spring overnight, but the perfect legislative conditions that allowed their unchecked infestation did spring up during one poxy decade, really.

>>50960320

At this point in time, -punk has morphed to refer to an aesthetic, not a story theme.

Dieselpunk is the gilded age, WW1 and post-war with flying cars and lots of metal everywhere basically.

>>50960320
Anything from WW1 till Atomic Era qualifies.

>>50960645
The plot perfectly nailed the nonsensical nature of Two Fisted and similar bullshit. It's like complaining Indiana Jones doesn't make much sense.
I'm not saying Sky Captain was good, but the plot wasn't the issue.

>>50960555
>>50960585
>>50960642
>>50960668
>>50960691
>>50960736
Can we havew at least SINGLE DAY WITHOUT Scythe shilling? That game is god-awful, stop pushing it into every single fucking thread.

>>50964423
>>50965750
>>50965953
So then what DO we call Miyazaki's airship visions? Because I've been classifying them as Dieselpunk. Even Nausicaa.

I can't stand 20's - 40's grimsteel aesthetic, but I absolutely love the same technology levels in Miyazaki, Last Exile and others like them.

So what do we call that?
I feel like saying Dieselpunk is ONLY WWI era themed is like saying Steampunk is ONLY victorian, but thats just my opinion.

>>50960320
Diselpunk is speculative fiction which draws on period between the end of the Victorian era and the end of WW2 for inspiration. It is a very close cousin to pulp-style narratives. Thematically it often concerned with things such as unsustainable societal systems, inequality between classes of people, exploitation, and the failings of high modernism.

>>50961137
I don't think it's a big enough genre that there needs to be a distinction.

>>50968727
>Can we havew at least SINGLE DAY WITHOUT Scythe shilling?
No one said anything about buying Scythe. That art is what spawned the game and easily the best part of it.

>>50968933
>and only good part of it
ftfy

>>50962601
>>50962614
>>50962632
Oh yeah. Those guys existed. They were certainly a help against all the crazy benders in the next seasons

>>50963211
Well, who would escept any less from Mike Mignola ?

>>50968441
Not really, because it's not the 1980s any more, despite what the public sector unions want.
It's not really that dystopian in the South, because of all the money and jobs. Up North it gets more so, when you get away from the shiny new investments and high streets full of bright lights and cafes.
I ended up wandering through Liverpool last year on my holiday (because everything's cheaper and people are nicer up north), and came across clum clearance in progress. They'd literally gotten halfway through an old housing estate; one half was brand new houses, there was a gap of various states of things being built, then the old slum housing still being lived in.
Then you get the contrast between the poorer areas with tiny shops and 'we loan money secured on your car' places, then down the hill past industrial estates and into the shiny touristy area with lots of new investment and nightlife and glittering consumerism.

>>50968893
Miyazaki is Noblebright Dieselpunk, most Dieselpunk ends up being Nobledark due to it's extreme relation to the world wars

>>50962218
good luck digging into my base im behind 7000 layers of pavement

>>50967246
Art deco's already an architectural style, and its smooth clean lines and geometry can't really be applied to most of the dieselpunk machinery you see. Looking at planes, cars, tanks and the like, they draw more inspiration from actual vehicles of the time period, none of which can be called art deco.

>>50972340
in a highly stylized dieselpunk earth I could see competing manufacturing firms, one using Art Deco designs and the other Brutalism, competing for max profits during the war.

>>50972555
What would brutalist vehicles, armor, and weapons look like?

>>50972634
spent 30 seconds googling "brutalist vehilcles" and surprisingly Star Wars spaceship and Sandcrawler designs showed up, can't say I disagree

>>50972662
Hmm, I could see a setting like >>50972555 with art deco dwarves and brutalist orcs having a massive trench war being really cool.

Dwarves make really high quality stuff, with beautiful lines and excellent materials. Their tanks are the best in the world, but they take months to manufacture. Orcs just weld steel slabs to a chassis and slap guns on it, rolling it directly from the factory floor to the battlefield.

German dwarves vs Russian orcs when?

>>50972719
Not going to lie, that sounds pretty cool - it uses all sorts of cliches, but I can't say I'm overly bothered - it's cool, it works.

Dwarf cities are big mountains of art deco skyscrapers, while orcs have huge concrete sprawls built around factories and military bases.

>>50963348
The "cyberpunk corporations" are called keiretsu.

>>50972340
Not the machinery, but the products, like cars and such.

>>50963428
>>50963487
Look up Supreme Commander's Fatboy 2, you're in for a treat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbl748ffPpQ

>>50963428
This is worse than stealth gliders.

>>50962277
Cyberpunk and steampunk were started by the same guy fyi.

>>50968727
I don't care so much about the game, but you do have to admit that art is amazing.

>>50973328
>>50972719
I really like this idea.

>>50961137
Would the leviathan/behemoth/goliath trilogy by Scott Westerfield?

>>50977273
Wait, as it turns out I'm a dipshit that can neither read nor form a coherent sentence, biotech ain't magic

>>50960284
Best album they did by a long shot.

>>50977273
>>50977415
There isn't really a distinction between science fiction and magic with dieselpunk due to the roots in the pulp genre and early comic books.

>>50963507
The Arrival by Shaun Tan

>>50977273
I've often wondered if the story there is even half as good as the art - despite seeing it for ages I've never gone and read the books.

Also kinda tempted to make a new thread to post more dieselpunk art

>>50983302
It's alright. It gets very YA in places and the ending is kinda meh.

whats a good system to run a prohibition-Mafia game in a setting like this

>>50969178
Give it a year or what. Shit's going down in the UK, and I'm not just talking about the upcoming exotic/fetish/hentai porn ban.

>>50962130
>Fu Manchu archetype
>Dragon Lady archetype
>Evil Archaeologist bent on acquiring ancient artifact for dastardly purposes
>Charles Foster Kane
>Early Stalinist Communists bent on worldwide revolution
>Embittered WWI veteran turned necromancer
>Cult leader and/or Extraspatial Abomination hiding in human form
>Criminal Mastermind ala Mabuse or Harry Lime
>Orlok-style Vampire
>Technocratic secret order bent on world domination (CS Lewis's National Institute of Co-Ordinated Experiments, Howard Scott's real world Technocracy)
>Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese Fascists
>American neo-fascists like Charles Coughlin in real life or Buzz Windrip from "It Couldn't Happen Here"
>Stereotypical gangsters and mafia from the Prohibition era
>mad scientist who creates an army of robots to burn the world to ashes
>a plethora of villains and monsters from pulp, two-fisted tales, and early superhero serials

There's a lot of stuff

>>50987599
>Fu Manchu and Dragon Lady
>AKA "dangerous Asian male" and "dangerous Asian female"
The "Orient" was all the rage in the '20s and '30s.

>>50987599
In short:
>Foreigners
>Businessmen
>Gangsters
>Social revolutionaries
>Cultists

>>50987853
Why stop there? Boil it down further to:

People whose actions magnify rather than ameliorate woe and suffering.

Or even better:

People who do bad things.

>>50988190
Now you're just being pithy.

>>50987599
Love it, perfect for my upcoming session

>>50960320
Like Bioshock.

Bioshock Infinite would be steampunk.

>>50991700
>Bioshock Infinite would be steampunk.
You couldn't be more wrong

>>50963322
Gernsback - when you already have technology, but still not morality to think what the fuck are you doing

>>50991827
how?

>>50991827
>>50992015
Bioshock Infinite could count as both of them by virtue of eschewing the popular image of both subgenres. Based on the time period it's set in it would steampunk that is transitioning to dieselpunk.

>>50963346
Really interesting , probably can't be as efficient as a tank but individual concepts like spaced armor, enclosed powerplants, NBC protection, and armor sloping are all sound.

>>50963211
It's what got me into diesel-punk

>>50991700

None of Bioshock Infinite's technology is really powered by steam; they've migrated to diesel because they've been stealing technology from the future

>>50960962
Personally my favorite architectual style.
Works great with the exaggerated scale of dieselpunk I think.

>>50998935
I'm not sure I see it. Architecture normally seen in dieselpunk is more towering and bright, I think.

>>50998976
I don't think it's that narrowly defined, and if it is brightness would veer more into art deco I think.
To me, great blocks of towering concrete that dwarf the humans that live in them are the architectural equivalent to six-wheeled cars with huge fronts and Chrome ridges.

>>50998976
>>50999405
The architecture in dieselpunk settings is ussually massive, imposing and very impressive. Art deco is commonly used because of how well it contrasts with an impoverished underclass, but any style with similar properties can be used to the same effect.

>>50964423
Is porco roso really dieselpunk? Like the most fantastical thing in it (outside of the gypsy curse pigman) was that ocean liner having deplorable security planes.

>>51002268
>deplorable
Deployable?

>>51002344
I'm sorry did you not see those designs?
Yeah, apparently deployable isn't a word according to my spell check.

>>51002430
kek.
And it's not a word to mine either

Fresh thread for images >>51002477

>>50960284
>>50960295
>>50960307
That looks like something by Arthur Radebaugh.

>>50961283
>dat mechanical
>dem cute soviet titties

>>50961887
What is that mi10 doing to that poor bus?!? Spoiler that shit, you pervert.

>>50964520
>she could slit throats with those nipples.
That's fabric with cones in it, the style at the time.

>>50962060
>They already are considered obsolete.
They were obsolete 40 years ago, but big airplanes are loada em money.

>>50962204
>> Fallout
>> Working vehicles
>> That aren't vertibirds
>HERESY.
Too young to have played Fallout 2 I see.

>>50960495
>Weird War 2 is so sadly under utilized.

seriously? There's so much of it.

in tg:
Weird War II, original flavor and for savage worlds
a thing in GURPS
The Day after Ragnarok
Atchung Cthulu
Spirit of the Century
some of world of darkness
I'm sure at least a bit of call of cthulu has ww2 stuff
dust tactics/dust warfare
tannhauser
many more
in videogames
wolfenstein franchise (original and reboot)
nazi zombies in COD
at one RTS game

in movies, all of these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_science_fiction,_fantasy,_and_horror_films

in comics
hellboy
atomic robo
captain america
several more