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>HHG
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Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf
>30k TACTICA & TIPS
What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more
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>HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore
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>/HHG/'s Legion demographics
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>Oct 16 White Dwarf
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>Primarch Popularity Poll
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Yeah id totally let fem Russ punch my nuts into a fine tuna paste if you know what i mean
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What are three 10-man taxical marines in MM Rhinos good for, if any?
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>>50954353
Do we know cases of interlegion bants?
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>>50954427
Holding objectives, disctraction rhinos.
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>Tfw you want to build your legion and play but your special unit rules are still months if not years away if Inferno is anything to go by
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Why IS inferno taking so long anyway?
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>>50954385
That her vagina has fists?
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Hey the (You)s are back
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Would you care if I used griffons as medusas if they were painted in the appropriate legion scheme and were easily identifiable?
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>>50954638
I'd fight them.
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>>50954638
Considering it looks nothing like it, id be a bit peeved
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>>50954648

They're chimera chassis mortars. The silhouette is a bit different due to the bigger gun shield on the legion medusa but the forgeworld Griffon is still pretty nice and detailed, pic related
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>>50954478
Because balancing TS is fucking impossible. They will be either shit or break the game completely.

They nerfed Librarians for a reason and now we get an army of them.
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>>50954819
>They will be either shit
pls no
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>>50954819
>>50954860
Eldar levels/amount of psychic shit on marines.

Sounds pretty stronk.
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>>50954895
As I said, either break the game completely or be complete shit.

I also have no idea how they will combat the need for Brotherhood of Psykers (If they don't have this, some's getting butthurt) without making the psychic phase a complete fucking dull city.
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>>50954819
With random powers, yes. If FW let itself get bullied into randomlulz power disciplines by GW's example then good luck balancing that, because you can't. Specially when the power levels range from smells funny but does nothing to where did my deathstar just go, even within the same discipline.

What I hope they've done is fixed powers for each of the cults.
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>>50954912
>the need for Brotherhood of Psykers
Here's hoping they didn't go for Brotherhood of Psykers, but psyker upgrade for characters instead. Not all Thousand Sons were psykers, and not all of them were accomplished enough to use their powers effectively in combat.
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>>50954946
How would you make all the terminators and veterans psykers though? Remember that psychic prowess was the main thing elevating members of the legion.
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>>50954946
I hope they get more than that, paychic powers are an absolute rng crapshoot
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>>50954978
>implying scarab occult should not be one of their legion specific unit
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>>50954998
what about regular terminators and veterans then?
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Got a cheeky New years eve afternoon match in with a good mate of mine, this is what he brought to the table! And yes this is led by his Scoria. My newly started Death Guard were quietly shitting themselves
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>>50955015
>My newly started Death Guard were quietly shitting themselves
Kek, weren't those theorycrafters spouting DG hard countered all Mechanicum ever several threads ago? Well, that strategy did depend on Mortarion, which is not always present. Funnily, the fluff does say he led his legion from the front most of the time.
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>>50955045
Theorycrafters are 2nd only in shit posting too homebrew rules posters. I did have a good counter up my sleeve though, I ran the Sacrifical ROW. So my entire legion force outflanked backed up by a coms relay to reroll failed reserve rolls.

A full contemptor cortus talon, a Leviathan, deathshroud unit + HQ, some tacs in rhinos and a praevion with 4 castalex outflanking and turning up in your sides will fuck up even a mechanicum parking lots plans.
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>>50955045
Turned some old marine bits into a MkV corpse. What traitor Legion should he hail from?
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>>50955015
>good mate
must be for that level of cybercheese

So how bad did he stomp you?
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>>50955157
Disregard that post link, I'm tired.
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>>50955129
Not a single occularii? Wow you got lucky

>homebrew rules posters
salt is real
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>>50955159
He was testing out a list for a comp soon, but we both bring fairly similar power level lists as we both started 30k at the same time, that and we are cool dudes and actually let each other know if we want to bring a cheesy list to try out.

I ended up winning because I played to the mission and won handily on victory points. My leviathan did die the turn it came on to a Krios shot to the face! same as the deathshroud unit, they got shot to shit and the survivors were them promptly nuked from orbit by my own scattered bombardment from a master of signals......... friendly fire indeed. I baited Scoria into the middle of no mans land and left him there while my Praevion + Castelax wrecked his Krios squadron and my contemptor cortus talon wrecked shit because overcharging cheap outflanking dreads are awesome. Tac marines moved up the table in rhinos to score points and occasionally shoot thralls. Playing the victory conditions is love, it is life.
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>>50955267
>He was testing out a list for a comp soon
tell him he needs occularii. had he had some he could have intercepted your entire army.
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>>50955423
Yeah we both have mech and were just talking about taking those as pretty much auto includes from now on to stave off drop pod armies and outflankers. Have some Thanatars for your troubles helpful anon.
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>>50955267
>>50955015
What was the points limit?
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>>50955594
2500 with no lords of war. So enough room to take lots of toys, I really need to get a malcador or some artillery for the militia that start on the board on their own. Will let them reach out and touch stuff all match if people ignore them.
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>>50955844
>three Thanatars
Thanatar-chan is so adorable, especially in threes!
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I plan to play SW iron wolves, the rules from the curse of wulfen are realy bad and not very customable. Well the crusade liste it's a good way to manage a themed army.
I would take the RoW armoured breaktrough for the fast rule and the boosted sicarian, and a siege breaker centurion with phosphex bombs to allow my medusa to fire with it.

Nuncio Vox, for the shooting and marines to take objective.
The siege breaker boost the volkite and allows a another rhino with a nuncio vox.
Machine spirit on fast vindicators sounds good.

Space Marines : Pre Heresy : SW HH Blizkrieg

QG
Legion Centurion : 120 pts
- Volkite Serpenta, Charnabal Sabre
- Centurion - Siege breaker : Phosphex bombs

Legion Sicaran battle tank : 200 pts
- Lascannon, Armoured ceramite, Dozer blade


TROUPES
Legion Tactical Squad (10) : 230 pts
- Nuncio Vox, Vexilla
- Sergeant : Melta-bombs
- Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier : Heavy bolter, Dozer blade

Legion Tactical Squad (10) : 230 pts
- Nuncio Vox, Vexilla
- Sergeant : Melta-bombs
- Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier : Heavy bolter, Dozer blade

Legion Tactical Support Squad (5) : 180 pts
- 5 Volkite Caliver
- Sergeant
- Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier : Heavy bolter, Dozer blade

Legion Tactical Support Squad (5) : 230 pts
- 5 Plasma gun
- Sergeant
- Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier : Heavy bolter, Dozer blade


SOUTIEN
Legion Vindicator : 170 pts
- Armoured ceramite, Dozer blade, Machine Spirit

Legion Vindicator : 170 pts
- Armoured ceramite, Dozer blade, Machine Spirit

Legion artillery tank squadron : 320 pts
- 2 Legion Medusa : 2 Dozer blade

Total : 1850 points - 40 figurines - 9 unités
url : http://40k.armylistnetwork.com/liste-74681-sw_hh_blizkrieg.html

Is this army would work ? I play against 40k player many marines tau and eldar on my local club.
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>>50955881
30k is not meant to be played against 40k, trying to cheese with the best in 40k will lead to dissapointment Pierre.
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>‘Let him see the fallen fruit, sitting warm and inviting in the afternoon sun,’ Omegon whispered to the empty battle plate. ‘And let me be the serpent beneath. Hidden and waiting to strike.
>BL dropped this for LOL EBIN CHAINSAW
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So, I like the idea of firelock storming party. How could I make that work in 1K loyalist cult army?
like for example

Commander (Halo familiar, overlord)

5 orderlies

10 heavy flamer teams

4x militia squads with vexilas

2x Leman Russ battle tank

What providences or toys would make it fun at 1K pts?
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Reposting best alphas are candy alphas
>>50952128
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>>50955267
>>50955463
>>50955844
What was your list?
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>>50954478
>>50954819
First delayed because of a change of plans n the content pipeline. The book was first slated as #3, but the team wanted to mix things up.

Then 6th/7th edition came and scrambled the whole psychic power system into its own phase. That forced them to entirely reevaluate things.

Then the model production fell behind, as the Custodes, SoS, and Space Wolves started needing more and more stuff.

In February 2016 they already knew pretty well what ruleset they wanted for the TS and were wrapping them up. On the other hand, it's the Custodes rules that they were still struggling with.

Then this year there was the car accident and model production took yet another hit.
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>>50956324
-Praetor
-Praevion with 4 Castelax
-Master of Signals

-2x tacs in rhinos with pintle melta

-Talon of Cortus Contemptors
-Leviathan
-5man of deathshrounds

-Aegis line with coms relay
-HQ dude for the militia with mutant and cultist province
- 2x militia conscripts

Pretty sure that was about it, was just a quick shitty list I chucked together with what I had on hand, will flesh it out more next year when I get some more vehicles and specific models.
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>>50956316
Wow, amazing.
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>>50956355
That IW model is dead on for DG. Not sure what I'll make mine into.

Did some work on my standard bearer, champion on the right.
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>>50956355
Greens a bit bright for my taste
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>>50956383
I like those a lot, did you use the Custodes Banner?
Also, what kind of weapon does your champion habe? Power mornung star?
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>>50956383
oh nice fellow DG, that will look sick once finished
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>>50956403
>>50956417
Cheers.

It's the custodian banner with DG brass ontop that I glued on 2mm plasticard sheet.
The champion is wielding a power mourning star of sorts with a censer-like head. I'm thinking of expanding that theme to the whole command squad and giving them shields. Rule of cool and all that.
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>>50954353
hey whats that program called that they used to make that picture?
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>>50956426
So your goys are LOYAL?

Will be happy to see what will come out of this.
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>>50954895
Invis/Endurance Termy blob

Good luck
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>>50956451
Thematically I haven't decided. In our current campaign they're the bad guys going against loyalist IW.
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>>50956506
>Haven't decided allegiance
>Still converts a banner with an aquilla larger than a marine on it
?
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>>50956383
How do you get your green stuff so smooth?

Also what resin do you cast in?
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>>50954438
Everyone to either the white scars or TS
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>>50956383
Looking good!
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>>50954619
Respond to prove it you liar
>>50954638
Why are you playing a BS Chymerae list
>>50955007
They can't take them like salamanders can't take moriats
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>>50956596
>Respond to prove it you liar
Not that Anon, but I had indeed noticed the return of (You)'s.
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>>50956641
Praise be, Goot realised he was a retard
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how many /pol/ people are here, and what legions do they play

not all warhammer fans are fascists, but all fascists are warhammer fans

:^)
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>>50955987
i know that, doenst matter to me. Is the same core rules and 30k armies are just special codexes from FW.
I have none 30k player around me, i have no choice expect adaptation.
Buying a expensive armie to no played her it's such a shame to me.
I have already 5000pts of IG and i'm a tournament player. I know what is work or not.
This armies would be for fun and to be played with friend. Like 30k is mean it afterall.

I just would know if thaht list is legal and work with the rules because i have only scan of HH books so it's more difficulte to mind it.
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>>50956715
You must take Predators with Pred cannons as your compulsory troops in armoured breakthrough.
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>>50956524
Both Loyalists and Traitors used the Aquila during the early heresy at least, remember, Horus wanted to take the Imperium, not destroy it.
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The Horus story is so ill-prepared and shitty. Why would a weapon who is just going to rule the Imperium as a weapon with no conception of mortal existence going to do it? Why would he want to? Why does Big E going into seclusion provoke such a dumb reaction?

Why is the alternative a Blizzard-tier MUH CORRUPTION asspull? Making the main villain's actions unaccountable because he's been possessed and radically altered is entirely uninspiring and cheap. He is the main character in the whole series and he is just an unrelatable ebil sockpuppet.
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>>50956661
I am a fascist but I only browse /pol/ ironically when I'm really bored.
Imperial Fists
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>>50956335
>the car accident

wat?
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>>50956829
Horus was afraid Spess Marines would get the same treatment as thunder warriors.

I think that is relatable, also look at history. Wars have been fought for less.

>>50956790
No, they used the eye of Horus ,didnt they?
The eagle stuff stands mostly for Emps.
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>>50956903
But what comes after they have stopped the muhreens from being purged?
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>>50956923
Probably what Muhreens allways do, fight some shit.

You have to imagine how different these genetically engineered dudes are, especially since they get changed during puberty.

Valrosean is a good example, they do not fug but kill.

There was a good reason Emps gave civillian control to actual humans instead of Marines and the Primarchs.
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>>50956923
The First Annual Legiones Astartes Blood Bowl Cup.
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>>50956237
The old-world survivors one I think increases the power of las-muskets/laslocks by a strength point, so that definitely helps. Then I think the other one is either the "feral world" melee bonus (or if you're not allowed to take that), the one where you get increased leadership, perhaps?

>>50956661
>>50956838
Me too.
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>>50956829
He isn't possessed, he went on a anathemae inspired warp drug trip where Erebus lied to him that Emperor wants to become God and discard the marines.

Even showed him a 40K shrine world: Emp's statue at the center, loyalist primarchs surrounding, but Horus is most noticeably absent.

Then you have remembrancers questioning Marine methods and bureaucrats trying to bureaucracy.

Maybe Sanguinious should have been the warmaster instead. Maybe even Dorn, that guy loved unpleasant duties (unlike pert, who took shit assignments and brooded about getting shit assignments).

Marines are practically running the realm of Ultramar - push came to shove, or rather peace, you'd have absolutely loyal super human administrators seeing that some shitty ass noble isn't screwing a planet with his shortsighted profit schemes.
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>>50957003
Survivors of the Dark Age gives you 1 to armor save, esentially making militia carapace armored. However, you have to take 2 squads of grenadiers, and I just want militia all day

Fun fact: SotDA also makes LR Proteus a transport option. So a 1k army can be commander and comman platoon in a rhino and two squads of grens in Proteuses. Have less dudes than marines, yay!
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>>50957105
IIRC you can pay to boost all the laser weapons on SOTDA squads. It's not included in the basic cost of the unit, you have to pay for it (it's worth it).
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>>50956578
Proper tools and lubrication. I go about the surface I want smooth gradually in round motion with a flat sculpting tool.
I've only used Smoothcast 300 for casting but it's too light and can be brittle with small detail. Would be nice to get something closer to what FW or based chinaman uses.
>>50956524
I thought maybe the Imperium would still have it's eagle under Horus' command, but it makes sense the eye would replace all other symbols. Guess my allegiance issue is settled then.
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>>50957003
>>50956838
>>50956661

Word Bearer fascists/natsocs ww@
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>>50956661
>>50956838
>>50957003
I'm an atheist

And I collect Word Bearers, have faith.
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>>50957215
>>50957003
>>50956838
>>50957216
So Word Bearers + Imperial FIsts will lead us to the bright future?
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>>50956661
Ultramarines, Word Bearers, Cultists Militia
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>>50956431
HHS+
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>>50957267
Do not look to us for kindness. Do not look to us for hope. We are not kind children of this new age. We are the rocks of its foundation. If you wish hope then look to what we make. If you wish kindness then look to those who will come after us.
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>>50956661
>>50956838
>>50957003
>>50957215
>>50957216
>>50957267
>>50957273
>>50957316

Can we resurrect Hitler to be the Emperor and do likewise for William Luther Pierce to be Malcador?
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>>50954438
More banter pls.
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>>50957210
Just make another banner bearer with an eye of Horus, so you can switch depending if you're going traitor or loyalist.
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>>50954438
The Iron Cage was a crossfire of bants that got out of hand
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>>50957329
I'm not a neo-Nazi or a capital "F" fascist. Would probably be called "reactionary" on /pol/, though not capital "R" either. I'd be more interested in Godd-Emperor Todd Howard, because it just works.
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LADS SHOULD I MAKE MY WORD BEARERS METALLIC WITH THINNED LAYERS OF GAL VORBAK RED OVER THE AIRBRUSHED LEADBELCHER > IRONBREAKER > RUNEFANG PLS RESPON

the only issue is with edge/line-highlighting the runefang on, the texture of the paint is fickle and nasty
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FOR KAOOSSSSSS
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>>50957366
>praises a xenos-exterminating imperium >gets upset over whitey conquering the world, getting rid of the useless third world

Fuck off, KIKE.

tbqh lad
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So, new stuff. Opinions?
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Not a fan of having victims sculpted onto the base this prominently.
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>>50957394
> Pallas
We already have enough skimmers which look like dicks, we don't need one named after it.
>>50957400
> Dorn is never coming out.
Life is suffering.
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>>50957400
>not letting your puppers take their toys with them everywhere
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>>50957400
>Not a fan of having victims sculpted onto the base this prominently.
I am thought, the Thousand Sons had it coming. Magnus did everything wrong.
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>>50957424
No arguing that, but when I fight anything but TS I just looks odd.
Doing nothing but kicking around the sons of Magnus sounds wonderful, but is sadly not viable.
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>>50957448
Oh, yeah, well you got a point there.

Wait a sec, are the (You)'s back?
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>>50957361
I imagine the IW got pissed when the IF didn't understand or make a single joke and started bombarding them.
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>>50957384
>uses might-makes-right as an excuse

>complains when "out-groups" beat his "in-group"

Khorne cares not whence the blood flows, only that it flows.
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>>50957455
Since this morning, yeah. Thank fuck, too.
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>>50957455
(You) tell me anon.
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>>50957389
I wonder how the Custodes Contemptor will be statted.
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>>50957448
I assume the models are non-specific, so you can paint them as whoever you fight most, but that problem still exists.

I was trying to fix that with the base of my Imperial Knight, which would have a dead marine on it, bit since it's House Malinax and the base is either Istvaan or Xana, I went with Sons of Horus. Still looks a bit off sometimes, but seeing as the Sons were at Istvaan and the attack force was disguised as them at Xana, it fits.
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>>50957468
>'''''loyalist'''' using strawmen

back to the iron cage with you
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>>50957500
I expect it's going to be a deathstar in its own right, a bit like "Primarch-lite". They might even give it the ability to fight challenges just for that purpose, but even if they don't, it'll decimate deathstars in its own right.

>>50957514
Different types of humans aren't the same as xenos.
Real life isn't 40k.
Back to the Iron Cuck Shed with you, bitter boy.
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>>50957476
That's great, it was stupid to remove it, even for a short while.

>>50957477
Are (You) messing around?
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>Tries to convert some combat servitors
>ends up making a really big guy
>motherfucker's 1.5 terminators tall
>what have i created?
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>>50957551
non whites, with some highly achieving races in exception, arent human tho
yeah it is
>implying im of perty's brood
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>>50957565
>what have i created?
A forgelord. Nice work.
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>>50957371
>"Let me tell you about Chaos."
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>>50957400
Found the TS player.
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>>50957567
Moving the goalposts, and reducing the value of words by changing them to mean whatever you want them to mean, does not help your case.
Wew.
Only a heretical Word Bearer could make arguments this imprecise.
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>>50957565
Something pretty damn sweet, anon. Is that Kataphron Breacherplate? Toss on some claws or fists and I would call it done.
wouldfieldasUrsarax/10

Was thinking about doing something similar with my plethora of admech parts and some Kastellans to make Arlatax.
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>>50957389
>body not an egg with limbs
>hands not stubby boxnought claws
>legs not cheap Chinese toy legs

Give it Contemptor shoulders and I might actually give a shit about the FW Contemptor. Only thing I'm not crazy about are the feet, but that's better than having acceptable feet and everything else wrong.
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>>50957593
>word salad
daily reminder for all imperial fists to take their psych meds your geneseed is by far the most weak
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>>50957610
>he doesn't love stubby boxnought claws
out
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>>50957594
Actually i've been thinking of slapping a heavy grav cannon and using it as a graviton imploder on him...
make him a Myrmidon Destructor
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>>50957627
That could totally work.
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>>50957565
Use it as Ogryn stand in maybe.

I love this, reminds me of the old WD kill team rules where one played the baddies to the others heros and you could replace some of your guard squads with End Bosses.

This one would be a class...H? Battle servitor.
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>>50957615
>Word Bearers complaining about "word salad"
>Word Bearer brains can't process a single sentence

>Word Bearers complaining about weak gene seed
>while the Mechanicum mass-produces disposable robots tougher than Lorgar
>their primarch is the weakest by far even with a weapon master-crafted by Ferrus fucking Manus
>Meanwhile Dorn can slaughter entire Terimator squads with a bog-standard chainsword
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>>50957693
Iron Cage
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>>50957618
>wants contemptor to have boxnought claws instead of hands

babby get out, adults are talking
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>>50957693

Objectively Lorgar is in the strength-tier of Alpharius and Ferrus desu. Throughout his story arch his psychic abilities grow immensely and he becomes one of the most powerful primarchs, his magicks just below Magnus in potency. Then he becomes a Daemon Primarch, while Dorn gets baited into an obvious trap.

Is there even enough lore to find Dorn's power rank?
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>>50957740
>Is there even enough lore to find Dorn's power rank?
Praetorian of Dorn dude.
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Can I put Mortarion, his bodyguard of 5 Death Shroud termies and a 5-man unit of Grave Warden termies in the same Spartan Assault Tank?
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>>50957765
no
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>>50957644
Here is the finished product!
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>>50955881
you're missing 2 autocannon predators in troops to use the RoW, this is a illegal list.
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>>50957759
>Dorn has been shown to be an absolute moron
>we must show that he is a credible badass
>let's have him kill a primarch in the most contrived way possible
>and to be safe, make that primarch a retard
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>>50957810
Would bring with on an STC hunt/10
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>>50957740
Ferrus was one of the top tiers, the best swordsman had to cheat just to beat him
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>>50957700
>Perturabo mad at Dorn because Dorn told the truth and said Mr Autismo could never break through a fort that Dorn had built
>Dorn goes ahead and proves that he could keep out the Autism Warriors AND every other traitor legion

>Perturabo says he's still better at attacking super-siegeproof fortresses than Dorn
>makes super-fort and dares Dorn to attack it
>Dorn successfully takes the fort, his men dying advancing over the bodies of their comrades not out of fear like Perty's slaves, but out of courage and loyalty
>"I was just pretending to make a shitty fort"
>Galactic Partridges swoop in and rewrite history
>Dorn accepts the slander of the "Ultra"marines for the good of the Imperium

>>50957740
Sadly, no, particularly when Forge World say "he has more powerful weapons at his disposal" but just give him a chainsword that slows him down to the point where regular tac squad marines can hit him.

>BS5
>T6

FW pls
y u do dis
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What is "Combat resolution"? I can't find it in rulebook.
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>>50957369
Gal Vorbak Red is a normal paint you dingbat.

But yes metallic word bearers.
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So blackshields. Looking at their list of rules I've been leaning towards the chymariae str/tghnss one, but it doesn't allow allies. Anyone try the others? With what allies? I'm finding it hard to justify them. The first one isn't bad, but then I should just take iron warriors.
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>>50957903

that's why i said thinned layers of GV red over metal dumbdumb

those WBs look too candy-appley
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>>50957920
you know the instructions on that picture are wrong, right? that the shown models are not painted like that, right?

lol
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>>50957893
Isn't it counting up the attacks for who wins assaults?
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>>50957951
source?
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>>50957887
>Galactic Partridges swoop in and rewrite history
They didn't really rewrite anything.

at least not until black library decides to write about the scouring and fucking ruin that
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>>50957955
Because those models are painted with Angron Red, from the FW clear paint range. Applying a standard opaque paint will NOT get you anything remotely metallic, no matter how you dilute it.

You'd be better served by just using Tamiya Metallic Red.
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>>50957977
I was meming about the Ultramarines, not BL.
I do actually hope they rewrite it so that Dorn doesn't come across as having lost his mind and become Perturabo 2.0, destroying all of a sudden after the incapacitation of the Emprah, throwing away almost his entire legion for no good reason.
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>>50958080
I kind of like that. The dynamic between robute and rogal during the scouring is interesting. And Dorn snapping out of it, recognizing he was going a bit nuts and changing for the sake of the future makes him all the more humble.

I don't want black library near it ever.
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Anyone from Finland here?

I swear I've seen someone post a WIP shot from a Finnish forum.
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>>50957796
Why?
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>>50958181
Because the spartan is not a super heavy transport
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>>50958198
What can I put in it?
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>>50958213
Mortarion + Either of the two terminator units.

Transports are 1 unit + IC.
Super heavy transports are as many units can fit.
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>>50958142
here we go, the owner of these two. Finnish right?
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>>50958213
Spartans are generally good for two things: a tactical blob (generally confined to the World Eaters), or a "deathstar" of Terminators (almost every legion does this).

Spartans are basically the answer to the question "what if I could fit ten terminators inside a land raider?".
As a bonus, you can also fit two terminator characters in too, and a bonus IC in power armour, if you want to go all-out.

You can only put infantry in it though, it's not got any special rules that a land raider doesn't have in that regard.
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>>50958231
Ah, okay, thank you.

Thought because they had such a large transport capacity they could do it, but obviously not. Footsloggers they are then.
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>>50957920
>...Another perfect Legionary
>Thousand Sons
What.
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>>50958264
On top of what >>50958256 wrote, you're lucky in that Mortarion is basically one of the speediest, most mobile primarchs out there. He doesn't need a transport to wreck things, but also he doesn't really want to be held back by an escort.

Either way you'll have fun.
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So no Grav Rhino for Legio Custodes I guess.
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>>50958370
I just wish they had not slapped two jetbikes together in their 3d design program to make these.

Looks like it though.
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>>50958370
where's the access point, the anus?
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>>50958440
Ps: I do like the difference in imperial, eldar and tau antigrav vehicles.
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>>50958453
Maybe hovers higher than shown and so is also able to drop people from a bottom hatch.
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>>50958440
custodes are too cash
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>>50958112

Its interesting because Dorn is supposed to display all the aspects of his warriors who would eventually splinter and diverge into the chapters that we know of today. Dorn went full space crusade mode after the Emperor got locked down in the throne and wanted the entire Imperium to feel the same way.

However, I also feel that this loss (no matter how silly it ends up looking) was important for Dorn as he would have ultimately had enough cojones to attempt a full scale invasion into the Eye itself. Dorn was a proud man and needed to be humbled and reminded that he fought for the future of man.
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>mfw I realize I'm Alpharius
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>>50958488
Good argument, emps decided to design his bodyguards rides after classic sports cars.

He did do sth worthwhile all these yeaes apparently. But don't you think this is due to FW trying to go for this retro futurism 1that was going on in the 50s to 80s? That is.. going for older designs people made about how future stuff should look.

I like the heavieness imperial grav vehicles have in comparison.
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Do all the Custodes vehicles look pretty much exactly the same? New one is just the Caladius with a longer hull, air scoops and a smaller gun.
Seems like ruleswise the Caladius is just a better Sicaran as well.
Anyway, would there be any good reason for the Xanatite Mechanicum to be at Istvaan? I was thinking they were attached to one of the Legions as auxilaries, but what Xana does before and during the Heresy is vague at best.
Just primed my Knight and the first of my Adsecularis, I can actually start work on my Heresy army now.
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>>50958575
Not really. Xana has specifically attempted neutrality with both sides and in particular ensured it did nothing to anger the Imperium.

Xana is present at the burning of Prospero, but taking part in the Istvaan massacre would put a huge target on them.

But why not.
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>>50958638
Well, they did participate somewhat in the Great Crusade, I just assumed that as Istvaan was the start of the Heresy the attached units just kind of went with it, since Xana had no idea it was even happening and obviously hadn't recalled everything yet.

The idea is they were at Istvaan, then got recalled to Xana II just in time to get shot up in the Incursion.
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>>50958695
I think it makes sense, didnt they have a big dark mechanicus component that was deployed together with davinite priests to mop up after the legions bloodies themselves and had proven their loyalty?
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I stopped taking Abaddons retard pills and fixed my Lernaean. Now to paint!
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>>50958716
thank you for fixing them, they look much better now
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Well that name isn't going to help anything.
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So, I got 2 sets of BaC characters, 10 BaC cataphractii, 2 BaC contemptors (I used the rest for my perfect third), and am planing to buy BoP, which would yield 30 mk3, and 5 tartaros.

I want to start a second Legion, but can't decide.

I'm leaning towards a pride of the legion of The XIII (having 3 vet squads, 1 tartaros squad, 1 heavy terminators squad, and two contemptors), but I could consider other legions, tho I dislike most legions. Which legion should I start?

Should I let Dubs decide? Maybe let Trips decide?
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>>50958716
The thing to remember with Cataphractii shoulder pads is that those ones aren't the ones that the actual shoulders of the astartes are contained in, and don't need "room" to move. I do find it hard to understand how the helmets work though. Nice Alpha Legionnaires too. 20 S5 attacks is nothing to sneeze at.

I myself am putting together some TH/SS Indomitus. It's a mystery how to get the shoulder pads on there. They don't seem to connect at all!
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>>50959004
Play Alpha Legion anon
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>>50958716
Good job, it's a small thing but now they look slick.
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>>50958752
oh lawd, even FW has made it official that space wolves mate with their wolves
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Is this Lorgar's theme or Horus'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8KR-n2fBQ

>Broken ice still melts in the sun
Prospero was an inside job confirmed.
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>>50957811
>>50956744
In fact i realise i don't take the delegatus but the siege breaker so i cant' have a Row.

If i will have a RoW and a Siege breaker i must take the preator with the upgrade and keep the sicarian as my compulsory HQ. (or two consul one delagatus the other siege breaker). That's right?
In that case the list is illegal because i have no HQ and the sicarian must be in my heavy slot.

I must rebuild all this, but i have a another question. If i have the RoW Armoured breaktrough can i take some dread' ?
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>>50959004
>tho I dislike most legions
Well, which don't you dislike? Just to narrow things down a bit.
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>>50959320
Dreads are fine anyway.
The Master of Armour has the MotL special rule, so you don't need a Delegatus or a Praetor.
Just drop 150 points and take two unupgraded predators and you're fine.
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Do you legion players use the Admech automata inclusion options, or do you ally Mechanicum at all?
I saw those and got a bit irritated that you get a good third of our toys and we don't get the Legion tanks and such back, but Mechanicum is plenty varied as is, I shouldn't be mad. DO you guys take advantage of that at all?
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>>50959237
>Reaching out for something to hold
>Looking for a love where the climate is cold

Lorgar, for sure.

>listening to hall and oates
but why though
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>>50959438
only 1 guy at my store uses them
most people like to stay focussed on their own legion do to the price of getting a 30k army in the first place
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>>50959459
>but why though
I like the 80s.

>>50959438
I think I might get a handful next year. They're fluffy for the Iron Warrior anyway.
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>>50957394
Pallas!
>>50957419
Fuck you! Pallas was Athena's "wtf are these chicks are a bit too close for friends" friend that she ended up killing, so she takes the name as her own
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>>50959486
gonna be honest, the 70's are more my jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wplM94jTI3s
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What legion would you want to serve, and ignoring our inferior nerd genetics that'd stop us from ever becoming an aspirant in the first place, and what role would you think you'd be good at?

Would you go traitor, stay loyal or be renegade? Why would you want to be a part of that legion? What draws -you- personally to your choice, what parts of your personality does it attract?

Do you think there'd be any comfy inter-legionary bonding between anons here? Could we have our own fraternal not-lodge communication board hoarded away from the Martians?
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>>50958370
>people will defend this

FW is the new GW.
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>>50959571
>What legion would you want to serve ?

Thousand Sons. I probably have an adiction to knowledge (I read an entire childs encyclopedia when I was 10 just for fun) so easy choice there. And ofcourse I would stay loyal ... to my legion :^)

But most likely I'd get recruited into the Dark Angels legion because autism ...
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>>50959571
Death Guard Grave Warden
Because i'm sombre as fuck, also I like the thought of gassing people to death and watching then from inside my impenetrable armour as they choke and feebly claw at my impassable legs for mercy before i crush their tiny brittle head under my foot...
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>>50959608
What's the matter with it? I don't particularly like it, but it doesn't seem horrible.
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>>50959667
>What's the matter with it?

Not a hover Rhino. Because why make a £50 fluffy conversion kit for a Rhino when you can make a £100 chunk of resin?
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>>50959571
>what role would you think you'd be good at
we'd all be destroyer marines, who are the unlikable autists of the legions
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>>50959707
I forgot all about Hover Rhinos desu.

Don't they have a "giant rhino" as well, that's open-topped? I wouldn't mind one of those.

>tfw no battle-buses for my Fist bolter blobs to dominate from
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>>50959530
No fuck YOU! A Pallas is a species of unreasonably fluffy wildcat!
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>>50959461
>>50959486

Yeah, I was thinking of maybe a couple Castellax or a Vorax squad just for some punch, and also to break up the monotony of everything being a Space Marine, Terminator or boxy tank of some description. Probably on legions like IW or IH, so fluffy.

Currently my Admech are busy lobotomising Chaos Cultists to make into Adsec, the 5 I have so far look decent.
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>>50959727
A Rhino advancer? Because those already exist, SW used them a lot apparently so we might get rules in HH7 read: never.
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>>50954438

Have faith, Word Bearer.
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>>50958752
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ON THE GROUND, BATTLE BROTHER

*pomf*
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>>50959727
FW can make any models they want, I'm just gonna get some Rhinos, thrusters and plenty of aquilas.

>>50959752
Of course we won't be getting them, they're old and buster lore, not new hotness.
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>>50959004
I claim you (and repeating digits) fpr the Warmaster! SoH!

They love numerical superiority and termies!
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>>50959571

>What legion would you want to serve

Word Bearers

>what role would you think you'd be good at?

I'd try and become one of the Vakrah Jal/possessed in my original donut steal Chapter. I'd love to aspire to the merging of divine neverborn and mortal man, using my body as a conduit for heaven. Holy synergy with the Primordial Truth, fampires.

If that wasn't possible, probably an assault marine (bolt pistol, chainsword, jetless) in a rhino. Crusader/ghazi valour fighting my unbelieving cousins in glorious melee. Though I don't think I'd be suited to command roles, due to the 'tism so I'd become a Diabolist and express my faith there.

>Would you go traitor, stay loyal or be renegade?

Loyal to Lorgar my genefather and saviour, of course.

>Why would you want to be a part of that legion?

I'm an ideologue and tend to have always been a bit zealous. I'd probably be a puritan or cultist in another time. I love Lorgar's divine fallibility and the idea of an army of holy crusaders who strive to raise Humanity up through faith. Of course I'd probably be convinced by ADB's fuck you daddy writing/sympathy for Chaos (but translated into the vastly more intelligent and better-expressed real universe if it was reality, I always imagine Black Library writers conveying baby-babble in comparison to what Astartes and Primarch minds could fathom and convey)

>Do you think there'd be any comfy inter-legionary bonding between anons here? Could we have our own fraternal not-lodge communication board hoarded away from the Martians?

Truce with Imperial Fists to jointly burn some of Perturabo's whelps for Istvaan desu
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>>50959360
Yes i forgot sorry, If my troups are only two squadron of predators ca i take the tactical support squad ?
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>>50959757
Where is that from? I hear it a lot as a meme, but I haven't come across the context ever.
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>>50959801
Yes, the predators are your compulsory troops in that RoW.
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>>50959571
I would want to not die, so I guess a sneaky legion like Raven Guard or Alfalfas, the latter burn their agents when needed though.
So Pale Nomass, due to being away from all this shit.
Probably Pale Nomads all in all, maximum carnage with the least risk for me sounds a save way to win compared to the tard assaults of the WB,SW or WE.

>definitiv no to to those ream killing NL.
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>>50959571
EC baby
I just want that sweet kush Eidolon was using in Angel Exterminatus
Saul is cool too, if you're into being a loyalist and having 0 fun
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>>50959571
>What legion would you want to serve

Alpha Legion

>Would you go traitor, stay loyal or be renegade?
Traitor of course.

>Why would you want to be a part of that legion? What draws -you- personally to your choice, what parts of your personality does it attract?

Because I like the espionage elements, and the hydra theme of course. I like the idea of having a perfectly planned series of events that culminate in not just a victory but a massive crushing blow to the enemy.

>
Do you think there'd be any comfy inter-legionary bonding between anons here? Could we have our own fraternal not-lodge communication board hoarded away from the Martians?

I can't see it being any different than /hhg/ already is - Alpha Legionairres meming, Ironfags beep booping, everyone else just annoyed but with an undercurrent of obliged camaraderie in it all.
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>>50959803
Istvaan drop site massacre, Iron Warriors went crazy and decided to give everyone a taste of their trench, they started bombarding everyone and dropping loyalist fliers on top of Word Bearer lines. When the WB started to ask for the IW to stop disregarding the lives of their allies they simply answered "Have faith, Word Bearer! We're all bleeding today!" some bitter laughter was heard and the bombing kept going.

So have faith Word Bearer, the trench welcomes all!.
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>>50958370
DID THEY JUST RETCON GRAV RHINOS?
>>50958453
A cloaca
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>>50959869
Ps: I would probably be good in a tactical support squad and zzaping people that do not expect me with a volkite caliver.

Also my cowardice DOES fit NL.
Shit.
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>>50959571
>What legion would you want to serve
White Scars, you actually have fun and a decent writer writing your story.
>what role would you think you'd be good at?
I think I'd be a good terminator, rare as they are.
>Would you go traitor, stay loyal or be renegade
LOYAL
>Do you think there'd be any comfy inter-legionary bonding between anons here? Could we have our own fraternal not-lodge communication board hoarded away from the Martians?
I would hope so, then I could tell traitors how stupid they are while they are traitoring.
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>>50959897
I believe WB would be the equivalent of the worst /pol/ shit stirrers.

Did you hearthe good News of Chaos? 10 reasons why you should worship the primordeal truth and Gillman is stupid.

Also tons of Calth butthurt between UM and them.
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>>50959984
Parcour Temie in Tartaros I hope.
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>>50960017
Of course.
>tfw you're so good on a bike you can avoid dangerous terrain even when you're not riding one
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>>50959887
>if you're into being a loyalist and having 0 fun
loyalty is its own reward scum
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>>50954353
Guys I want to have fun with you all day long, but I have stuff to do in realspace
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>>50959571
Imperial Fists because I feel duty to the mankind.
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>>50959571
Blood Angels. Being perpetually handsome and the best is a pretty good incentive.

Also you get the best dad.
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>>50960042
I like to believe its about using momentum and well planned movement for WS Termies and knowing which walls to crash through.
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>>50960102
Horus was a good Dad as well at the beginning, who takes place 3 in the Dad Games?
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>>50960122
Vulkan.
>inb4 /pol/
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>>50960122
Guilliman maybe or Dorn.
>>50960109
There are two kinds of people anon, I like to believe the Termies are mimicking a straddle maneuver and mumbling 'brum brum' under their breath.
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>>50960134
>>50960149
Vulkan definetly...the others are just the big middlefield.

The bottom would be Angron,Perturabo,Konnie and Ferrus. The former two being actively dickish and the latter being batshit crazie or hard love guys respectively.

>Brum.
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>>50958752

>Take the Knot!
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>>50958370

This is so much better than any Grav Rhino, I love it. Gonna wait to see the full list though to see if Custodes are worth starting.

>>50958554

If Mechanicum are art deco (Triaros) mixed with pure functionality, and Custodes are retrofuturistic (and the most advanced), then the Legionaries as mass produced soldiers get the clunky, barely functional leftover garbage. It makes sense.
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>>50959908
Yes? They retconned them back in February when Alan said they would never do grav rhinos or grav landraiders.
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>>50960282

This is NOT the way things are supposed to go! They've been part of the fluff for THIRTY YEARS! they can't just remove them. From now on Forge World is non-canon to me.
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>>50959004
Word Bearers.
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>>50959571
White Scars, loyalist

I would enjoy the relative autonomy, wide open expanses, fast travel and appreciation for art/culture/music
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>>50960268
>Custodes are retrofuturistic
Of all the 40k armies they're probably the least "retrofuturistic", and the Mechanicum the most in the classic 50s/80s connotations of that word.

>>50960282
This is disappointing if true.

>metal boxes can't fly at the height of human technical prowess because reasons
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>>50960345
>contemptors, cortus contemptors, deredeo, leviathan, grav-""""carrier""""
Forgeworld is taking away our metal boxes.
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So who here aside from me is planning a full Custodian Army?

With my Xmas money I plan to pick up one each of the Caladius, Pallas and Coronus as soon as they are released.
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>>50960370

It's almost like their sole purpose is to sell new shit or something.
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>>50960345
Alan said that at the weekender. Reason being that FW wanted to give them a unique aesthetic, rather than simply being Astartes +2. He wanted for there to be some parallels in abilities/purposes but with a very unique flair.

I think this kind of shows in the Caladius, which is a souped up Sicarian.
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>>50959571
Word Bearer Dark Apostle, as I've been told that I'd be a great public speaker if I ever got out of my fear of public speaking.

But then again, I wouldn't be able to have a meltagun or heavy flamer, so I dunno. I feel the need to use divine and holy flame to burn the enemies of Chaos.
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Do any of you remember the discussion a month or two ago about how strong the Primarchs should be on the table?

There was an Ultras player who got really salty after my (Filthily proxied with 40k) Myrmidon Destructors killed Guilliman.

The toasterfuckers with no arms (and my Magos, equipped the same as them) have done it again, and this time in close combat. Powerfists and 2A standard yey. They managed to shoot away the Suzies and put a wound on RG, then charged him, tanked his attacks on lucky 5+ and then beat him to death in CC. I slightly wished I had augmetic eyes so I could have taken a pic of his face.

You have any good stories of Primarchs or other massive things dying in stupid ways, anons? Got to be a few out there.
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>>50960394
unforgivable

the metal box quotient must be maintained
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>>50960391
Please post pictures of your supremely painted Banana Guard then.
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>>50960446

I do not trust myself to paint them well, though I have a few ideas.

Also I only have 10 Custodians at the moment. Waiting for the rules before I build the army.
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>>50960370
>Alan Bligh is Carron
By the Emperor.
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Has FW said how they painted the custodes vehicles?

I really, really love that mottled effect on both the red and gold parts. Any ideas how they did it?
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>>50960420
Beating him up in CC is pretty neat, but killing things like primarchs & their bodyguards with grav really isn't an achievement. The introduction of grav weaponry to 40k was genuinely a mistake.
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>>50959571
Ramp it up a notch:

With the knowledge you know now, from many hours studying Black Library drivel and FW background, what Legion would you choose then?

I'd still be a Word Bearer
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>>50960420
>dying in stupid ways
basically anything can be killed by myrmidons and a magos, man

stupid would be getting gunned down by tech-thralls
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>>50960500
Shrug, there's not exactly a lot of it outside of mechanicum myrmiblobs who will achieve shit all unless they pay for a transport.
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>>50960397
I like that, their tech should be baroque but utilitarian.

Not like the Admech, which is.....amazing but more brutalistic.

Custodes tech is what the emancipated humanity should have, freed from the Admechs dogma.

Admech had a real reason to rebell,as emps would surely habe tried to undermine their monopoly and have real science happening..as it did in some areas of the Imperium.

But like Lorgar, the admech rebels somehow achieved their goal without profitong from ot.

Emps worship and total admech control over tech.
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>>50960465
You want some more?
Still have mine unpainted from my Prospero box.
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>>50960574

I would totally buy some more off you, were it not that I am currently miles away from civilization, and only posting thanks to the marvels of satellite internet.
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>>50960502
Still Pale Nomads, later Space Sharks.

Killing xenos and pirates in the void is better than eternal infighting.
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>>50960500
>>50960503

Oh, the grav wasn't the funny part, I'm fully aware how strong that is and I run 3 Myrmidons maximum for the exact purpose of dealing with Primarch deathstars. The funny part was his reaction.

The CC thing was probably better if you were there, but he had been bigging up his new 10 Suzy + Spartan + Guilliman deathstar all game and then it got unceremoniously chewed up and spat out by 4 guys.

Speaking of grav, though, the 40k version is bullshit due to insane power, rate of fire, drop pods for deepstrike, long range, grav-amps for Shred and psychic powers for Ignore Cover.

Admech have rather less of those, which in the mind of me and my group makes it pretty much like Melta for deathstars.
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Dubs decide what I spend >=£75 on in Forge World. (Or any item you'd choose below 75 pounds)
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>>50960615
Oh boy, are you deployed?
I will start my basic training in january...

But yeah, undeestandable to be wary on 4chan about this kind of stuff.

>On the other hand /wip/ sent each other gifts for christmas.
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>>50960646
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-BE/Tau-KX139-Taunar-Heavy-Rail-Cannon-Array

You'll need this to go along with your supremacy suit.
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>>50960646
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Giant-Spined-Chaos-Beast
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>>50960646
Word Bearers Upgrade set for MkIV marines.
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>>50960646
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NZ/Iron-Hills-Ballista-FW
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>>50960646
Solar Auxilia Lasrifle section for 73.
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>>50960646
Chaos Warhound Vulcan Mega Bolter (Left Arm)
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>>50960688
Ayyyyy
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>>50960688
Fuk yea.
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>>50960646

£75 worth of Bloodbowl Referees.
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>>50960699
Ayyyy, again
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>>50960696
>>50960709
>>50960699
>Yet more namefags
Just what these threads need.
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Anyone see this yet?
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>>50960699

That's ten whole referees
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>>50960721

Don't lump Shas in with all the other Namefags. He's a venerable /tg/ treasure.
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>>50960688
WHERE'S THE REST OF ME?

>>50960699
I like this idea better.

Too bad you guys took me at face value rather than giving me genuine 30k options. >:o
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>>50960728
>>50957389
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>>50960728

How long until he goes for general release? I want to order him and a Pallas as soon as possible.
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>>50960688
This is 42£
>>50960699
So fill up on these.
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>>50960748
Monday.
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>>50960728
Yes, THIS is how a super cool dreadnought looks like...not Babbie carriers.
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>>50960739
Lorgar himself, then.
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>>50960739
Solar Auxilia Lasrifle section, 73 poons!!!
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>>50960420

I had a squad of nine Myrmidon Destructors hit and wound with every shot from their volkite culverins against a leftover squad of four enemy terminators.

All saved. The terminators charged, and proceeded to kill all nine Destructors over three rounds.

That counts, right?
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I should never have asked desu.
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fug me, it begins
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>>50960739
>Invoking the dubs most holy
>Hedging your bets
Pick one.
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>>50960785

Good luck. Remember we're here for you.
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>>50960268
Well rhino sucks. Weak armour, armed with only twin linked boler(storm bolter in 40k) IG Chimera is better. Only cool thing about rhino is that some guy can shoot from hath with his weapon (lascannon, h bolter etc.) rest sucks. As far I know Custodes didn't used heavy weapons so this make them no difference. Better new transporting vehicle than flying rhino garbage. But this one FW just show us looks weak, they could make something that look better.
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>>50960268
Why are you using a trip, I thought AWG made people hate them
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>>50960803
>Rhino sucks.
Shut your whore mouth.
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>>50960785
>making this big a backlog
I bet you don't even have prospero
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>>50960785
Don't you have the free shipping voucher? Aren't you going to wait until tomorrow?

Good luck though. That's a pretty comprehensive list.

>>50960797
The Imperial Truthâ„¢ WAAC cares not for the whims of this Lord of Change known as "Kek".
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>>50960842
Darling, we'll ALWAYS have prospero.
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>>50960785
Dice gods bless you.
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>>50960842
I have a box each of BoP and BaC. That's what the upgrade sets and shoulderpads are for :)
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Lads, I've got a real hoard of resin and plastic crack. I've got enough legionaries to make multiple armies. I collect to paint and model, and for the lore. So while I am aiming to build a whole company for my pleasure, what formation should I go for, what direction of combat should I specialize in, for when I bother to learn the game and actually start playing?
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>>50960847
I think this is enough for the free shipping though!
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>>50960745
Nostalgia?
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>>50960863
>formation
We don't take kindly to that sort of language 'round 'ere.
The word you are looking for is 'Rite of War'
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>>50959571
>ignoring our inferior nerd genetics
Jokes on you, nerd, I have superior jock genetics that I'm busy wasting on a sedentary nerd lifestyle.

I'd want to be a Dark Angel or Luna Wolf, but I'd be a better fit for the Raven Guard or Alpha Legion. Which I guess makes me a Pale Nomad.
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>>50960896

Unless your group doesn't allow forge world rules like mine...
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>>50960921
Tell your group to quit being fucktards.
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>>50960776
I rather think so. Personally I rather dislike Volkite in 30k since everything is >4+, but I can see how weight of dice would work. Somehow my enemies always have all the luck with 2+ saves.

I keep trying to start work on my Adsecularis but every time I run into something else cool or have an idea I'll never do. Probably going to paint some next, though, since the Mars scheme gets a bit boring after 15 Skitari.

If there was a volkite Admech squad in 40k, though, I would buy the shit out of it, but sadly it's just a nice gun on the Dominus there.
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>>50959571
>iw artillery commander so I survive and can spend my days looking at long round barrels
>loyalist so they don't have tentacles
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>>50960940
Kek.
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>>50960849
Yeah but you start on the small things and then build up so you don't sell it on bulk on ebay
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>>50959571
I would be an Iron Warrior because I feel dead inside. Would probably be a Tyrant Siege Termie so I could rain hell upon the enemy and weep bitter tears. Subservience to the best primarch is a small solace.

Tfw nobody cared enough to ask what I dreamed of.
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>>50960994
Ultramarines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjcOJmoJwpk
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YOUR LEGION THEME GO

https://youtu.be/Q2eAkkzf2lc
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>>50960391
I wasnt until i saw that contemptor. Shits sexy af. And after buying BoP I already have some custodes...
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>>50961013
Is that a boy or a girl getting slapped?
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>>50961066
Here's a hint, that's an obese gay porn star.
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>>50961013
>Legion.

Ha.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Dm9oTLGhI
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>>50961066
>he doesn't know based daddy howard
>he isn't from forr chohnn slash new
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>>50960420
>Be RG, fighting WE. Both our Primarchs in the lists.
>Run Decapition Strike, Maun, Nex, Pod of combi plas seekers plus other gubbins
>Angron deathstar with ravagers iirc foot slogging
>Decap gets me first turn, didnt get seized
>Nex unloads on squad which is Target for Ravens Vengeance, 76 hits (pre moritat nerf). Maims squad, put wound on Angron due to precision shots.
>Seeker pod unloads on Angron and the few ravagers. Kills them all.

And thats how I got 5VPs top of turn one

Then Corax went on to kill about 40 of the remaining WEs.
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>>50961013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpx0QuLbBfo

As man fights man
In the epic struggle for survival
The warmaster shall reign
With oppression fed by a burning hate

Hatred of mankind, twisted within your mind
Corrupted by powers unknown, the downfall of this world

The end of your life, beginning of human strife
Destruction of this crippled planet
Warmaster an inhuman prophet

WARMASTER
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>>50959571
Sallies or White Scars.

I'd probably be a Librarian if I could. And if a White Scar, probably would be like the other anon and OH YEAH! people with Tartaros armor.
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>>50960785
Only 2 upgrade sets?

Then you'll have 10 Mk Iv's with no shoulder upgrade
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im gonna get a leviathan; i like the look of the siege drill, it looks like it's actually lethal if you swung it around, rather than the picker-up claws. but i guess the dual siege claws won't be as effective at dealing with inf? will he just be suited to tank smashing or something?
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>>50961237
Leviathans are not going to kill a 20+ man squad in close combat, ultimately they're a dreadnought and while its possible they can sweep the whole squad its also very likely to get bogged down for a turn or two. Get a claw+siege drill, looks cool and you're geared for fucking up tanks AND monstrous creatures.

Get something else for anti-infantry because the leviathan isnt doing that job.
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>>50959571
Honestly that's pretty hard to choose so I'd say either
>WB Ashen Circle (into Chaplain once the jig was up?)
>AL Saboteur or Headhunter
>IF Terminator going full Fist/Iliastus/Teleportarium

I'm quite dedicated once I choose a cause I believe it, not above self-sacrifice if the result is worth it, and boy howdy few things are better than giving close friends and family a nice surprise :^)

>traitor
>"loyalist"
>loyalist
in that order

I can imagine getting along pretty well with whatever other two legions I didn't end up with like >>50959786 and perhaps some of the more "well read" UMs.
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>>50961237
unless your group are fucktards, counts-as is a thing. The rules for the claw are amazing against primarchs and such, its a great way to kill your enemy's big stompy deathstar/primarch/knight if you have both.
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>>50960776
How the fuck did the destructors not kill them in combat?
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>Tfw want to buy a Warlord, give it two fists and paint it like Big O

https://youtu.be/7OlcJzin3LE
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>>50956661

World Eaters^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
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>>50961296

>when the Butcher's Nails make fuck up your formatting.
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>>50961237
>>50961264
>Leviathans are not going to kill a 20+ man squad in close combat
In close combat alone. Phosphex launcher, maybe a gun arm, and the secondary weapons will help. Then hammer of wrath, I5 swings will do. Watch out for chainfists though
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>>50961264
>while its possible they can sweep the whole squad its also very likely to get bogged down for a turn or two
>possible
inevitable

the leviathan's points in regular dreadnoughts will do it faster, though
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>>50961279
>>50961264
>>50961349

bring it in a pod right?
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>>50960875
Certainly not me.

I don't like being recognized easily :^)
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>>50959571
I don't know!
Limiting it to Loyal IWs once I thought about Warsmith/Siege Breaker/Master of Signals...but then I remembered reading about RG Torovac, whom was skilled enough to become a Shadow Captain but heeded the Emperor's call and became a Chaplain instead, so there's that. Loyal fanatiscism rather than misguided WB zeal.
And IIRC Titus Avvon, that IW Moleman, he is described in termie armour but with a mace. That's Chaplain enough for me.

But what drawed me towards the IW (and DG and Reductor) is the whole Destroyer-Breakers of Worlds thing.

There's just something about the Siege, you know? The Blockade, the Assault, the Breach.

>and ignoring our inferior nerd genetics that'd stop us from ever becoming an aspirant in the first place
Kek
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>>50961408
Usually your best option. Load it for bear so it can kill as much as possible. Becuase you're in knights point cost territory. Need to milk it for everything its got otherwise you would be better off getting a knight
>>
>>50959733
Double fuck (You), that's just named after a dude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Simon_Pallas#Commemorated
>>
Alright, trying for a fun and fluffy DG list based around heavy firepower and phosphex shenanigans. Trying to work out if Durak Rask is worth it.

HQ:
Legion Centurion, Siege Breaker
Marshal Durak Rask

Elites:
10 man Destroyer Squad with Jump Packs
3 Rapier Quad Launcher Battery with phosphex canisters

Troops:
10 man Heavy Support Squad with Heavy Flamers, Rhino
10 man Heavy Support Squad with Lascannons, Rhino
10 man Tactical Squad
10 man Tactical Squad

Heavy Support:
7 man Grave Warden Squad
Legion Medusa

Lord of War:
Mortarion (of course)

General list crit is welcome as well, the idea is to make the battlefield hellishly inhospitable while drowning my enemy in poison attacks, rad grenades and superior firepower.
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>>50961527
Forgot to mention, this currently comes out at 10 points over 3k, so I'm trying to trim points down. I can either remove Rask and then add some more marines somewhere, or take the rad grenades off one of the tac sergeants.
>>
I kinda want to get some assault Marines for the legs, but chest and packs won't be used not to mention the purity seal leg.

Why do non-assault legs look so weird with jump packs?
>>
>>50956316
Kieran Douglas is an amazing painter. Did the metallic blue with rattlecans no less.
>>
Would anyone get mad if I used destroyers as my assault marines? I like the armor more.
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>>50961871
Yup. The man has perfected battle damage.
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>>50961880
As long as their wargear is appropriate, I see no problem at all.
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>>50961527
what is your meta like, no point posting a list without a context. If you come across vehicles and fliers you are going to get wrecked or if you face mostly infantry you will do fine. Mechanicum will probably eat you alive as well as heavy drop armies
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>>50962172
Mostly facing infantry with a few people using vehicles, no Mechanicum representatives.

I thought the lascannons heavy weapon squad would be enough to deal with any tank problems, especially with a siege breaker consul attached.

Other than that looks good though? Really want to get started on the modelling and painting.
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>>50962216
yeah that is going to be good against an infantry heavy meta. Expect people to hate your 3xquads because they are undercosted rape machines and you will find people till tailor lists too neutralize them asap or just not play you. I would look at cutting back on something to maybe give morti a ride.
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>>50962276
Alright, I might tinker with it a little.

However, back to my original question, is Durak Rask a good choice within this list. Current idea is that the Siege Breaker Consul and Rask both join one of the Heavy Support Squads for added fun, but I could cut him out to free up some points. Morty adds MotL, so I don't have to worry about that.
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>>50962379
I remember reading on the 1d4chan tactica that Rask counts as a Siege Breaker, which if true would mean you wouldn't need the consul (saving you some points). Don't have access to my "legitimate" copy of the red book at the moment though, so can't check.
>>
Speaking of Mechanicum representatives, are the Ordo Reductor any good? Been interested in Heresy for a while, read the Istvaan books and I think they do sound cool, but obviously the 1d4chan tactica isn't that helpful for anything but the basics.

I see people complaining re. Cybernetica, but I don't see the Reductor mentioned much.
Ideally I wanted some Thallax, Myrmidons, a few tanks and such. I find most of the automata's designs bar Vorax and Thanatars a bit ugly compared to the rest of the Admech range.

If I sound like an imbecile that's because I am one, I have no idea what the Heresy meta is aside from spartan deathstars and mortar spam being bad. Mostly read lore this far, but my new FLGS has an active Heresy scene and apparently no Mechanicum so I thought I'd join in with my favourite cogboys.
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>>50962416
Sadly he doesn't actually have the specific rule allowing phosphex artillery, although he does have all the other rules that Siege Breakers have.

The Consul isn't too costly anyway, he's purely there to give me access to that phosphex goodness for my Rapiers and Medusa.
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>>50954353
Happy New Year from germany, /hhg/!
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>>50962653
From Britain too. Cracked open the traditional champagne-tea and watching the fireworks 'round the london eye.
>>
>>50962732
>>50962732
New Year, New Bread
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>>50959571
Loyal SoH, because fuck easy mode. I want to die with a bolter in my hands and the corpses of traitor kin strewn about me.
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>>50956661
OC splinter/ successor chapter of Black Templars

Also, that statement is very true.
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>>50963122
wrong pic
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>>50958575

IIRC Isstvan was a "Legions only" exclusive event (it was somewhere in a NL book or something). When Malcharion got called to purge, he killed all of the auxiliary fleet the 10th Company was attached to before setting off.

You could just run with it, I don't think people care that much?
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>>50960502

Hell yeah I'd still be a Word Bearer.
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>>50963156
Like, the most wrong pic you could ever find.
I'll keep an eye on you, "chaplain"
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