Warhammer 40k

"Someone forgot to create a new thread" sub edition

File: latest.jpg (828KB, 700x1000px) Image search: [Google]

828KB, 700x1000px

Are Blood Slaughterers good? Should I field them with my Maelstrom of Gore? I'm trying to make a fluffy WE list Dinobots don't really feel like something they would use.

>>50945047
Fuck your shitty OP.

Where's the fucking list builder?

4th for 7th ed Nid codex when?

>>50945062

THIS! Anon is getting old

>>50945093
As long as you yell GET OVER HERE when they pull someone.

>>50945108
Never, Nids are an irrelevant faction soon to be squatted.

>>50945100

Fuck you.
People begged to be spoonfed for the application link and ignored the OP, so I took it away.

What list builder can you recommend?

>>50945108

right after IG, so basically never.

File: Tyranid_Carnifex_1.gif (29KB, 278x225px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 278x225px

>>50945121
>newest large terror to the galaxy
>entire tendril coming to squat the BA
man i cant wait till they get destroyed

>>50945141
IG will probably get one in 2017. After Cadia falls, they will get a new plastic regiment.

>>50945135
Notepad++

so I am making a mech imp guard army, but I have no idea which upgrades are useful and which are useless. How barebones should I keep my chimeras? LR? Hellhounds?

File: dx-1.jpg (16KB, 141x176px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 141x176px

>>50945158
>they will get a new plastic regiment.

Not

>>50945125
>being this butthurt

Deathwatch 7 Droppod Black Spear Strikeforce
Yay or nay?

File: 1479782262463.jpg (161KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

161KB, 1024x768px

These general OPs lately have sucked.

First they stop using goggle GSC and now this.

Its time we make 40k generals great again.

>>50945249

The generals must serve the community first and not the whims of whichever fragile and weak ego that is creating it at any given moment.

>>50945235
Tons of frag cannons.

>>50945249
>complains about poor-quality general images
>posts a shitty /pol/ meme
nicely (You)'d friend

>>50945171
Everything should be bare bones basically. Sponsons are worth it for every Leman Russ except the ones with Ordnance weapons as their turret weapon. But try to keep them bare bones until you got all the tanks you need, then start adding sponsons.

Vets should just be Chimera with Multi-Laser, Heavy Flamer and Vet squad should be minimum 2 of the same special gun, since that's all that can fire out of the hatch. It can be good to take 3 guns in case you disembark to shoot something, but most of the time you don't want to get out of the Chimera, and if you have to, that unit is likely dead next turn. I'd recommend going 2 plasma or 2 melta to not waste their BS. If you want, load up on 3 of the same weapon, or 2 of the same and a back up Flamer. That can be nice if you have to thin a hoard. I would personally start with 2 of either melta or plasma, and then at the end see if you have the points to make them 3.

Command Squads are pretty good units for riding in Vendettas if you keep them in reserve. Otherwise you can do Vets in a Valkyrie.

Taurox Primes are really good and you can just deep strike the squad itself while having the Taurox Prime on the table. Taurox Prime Missile Launcher plus Twin-Linked Autocannon gives you a nice 100 point anti-light vehicle unit.

File: warrior_Plastic_2.jpg (53KB, 470x224px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 470x224px

More 2nd edition Nids

File: 1482290933773.jpg (112KB, 1024x724px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 1024x724px

>>50945283
>must serve the community

>throws a tantrum and removes list builder link

>>50945301
I read your post. Congrats.

File: Sid.jpg (42KB, 500x362px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 500x362px

>>50945339

File: 1400858499866.jpg (59KB, 616x895px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 616x895px

>>50945351
>>throws a tantrum and removes list builder link

Yeah I'm not saying that's a good thing. OP is a weak person. And he should also burn for not removing Space Odin's garbage.

>>50945373

no u

I want 40k to get the AoS treatment, the rules are too clunky and it fucking takes forever to play a game.

It would also be nice if my basic units could damage a Wraithknight instead of watching my opponent just put one on the table and realizing I'm fucked.
This game has just become an arms race of who can spam their book's strongest units.
Tactics and gameplay take a backseat to list building.

>>50945387

Go back to your dead general.

>>50945047

This is actually vaguely fascinating, in that he clearly put in a bunch of research effort to make a real nerd reference rather than bullshitting something... And then wrecked it by making it stilted as fuck.

File: you.png (181KB, 700x471px) Image search: [Google]

181KB, 700x471px

>>50945387
>It would also be nice if my basic units could damage a Wraithknight
Guardians, Dire Avengers, Skitarii Vanguard, Fire Warriors, Scatbikes although Shuribikes would do better
That's just off the top of my head, also Marines can shut the fuck up because they have grav.

>Tactics and gameplay take a backseat to list building
Building your list is the first tactical move you make in a game.

>>50945235
I actually have run something similar. Honestly, running a minimum BSS to get the command benefits and then running everything else in a cad is the best way to go. Maximize OBsec (and frag cannons do not have trouble wounding).

File: 1432935052093.jpg (219KB, 1908x1073px) Image search: [Google]

219KB, 1908x1073px

>>50945047

Why don't IG have grav weapons? It doesn't make sense.

>>50945403

It was pretty hilarious how smug they were around the generals handbook release about that brief burst of interest the game got before everyone realised points didn't magically make the actual game functional.

>>50945337
thanks man.

I am planning on giving the vets 2 meltas. I was also considering taking ratlings, but I found out snipers don't having pinning anymore, so I guess I will scrap those too. I am building a list now. also not really sure what to put on my CCS, just fill it with meltas?

File: IMG_3629.jpg (221KB, 703x946px) Image search: [Google]

221KB, 703x946px

For anyone who is unable to google "warhammer list builder" and select the first result.
>https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

File: Boi.jpg (31KB, 351x381px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 351x381px

>>50945100
Literally just look up "40k list builder" you tard

File: Marneus Calgar - Warhammer 40k.png (3MB, 7097x8000px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 7097x8000px

>from the minimalization threads on /w/

>>50945461
It's still selling great, and the generals are far from dead.

>>50945461
I play both and AoS is far more functional than 40k right now. Every army is viable unlike 40k.
Your comment clearly indicates you don't play AoS so you don't have any fucking idea what you're talking about.

File: The Angel, Sanguinius, Primarch of the Blood Angels - Warhammer 40K.png (3MB, 5521x10000px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 5521x10000px

>>50945503

File: 1481418823556.jpg (22KB, 523x523px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 523x523px

>>50945486
>>50945477

>"Just Google the rules PDF idiots"

>"Just search yahoo for the FAQs morons"

>"but here I'll link to some shitty fanfiction", that's important"

>>50945503

Why does he have all those detailed logos but no facial features?

File: Marneus D BLINGar - Warhammer 40k.png (3MB, 7592x8000px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 7592x8000px

>>50945503
>joke version

I'm still looking for good, non bank breaking women for my imperial guard. If anyone has some options, I would appreciate info

>>50945514

>Works better than 40k because 40k doesn't do balance at all

Until the game stops having shit so fundamentally, mind-numbingly flat out wrong as random turn order, this will always be a troll statement.

>>50945449
A single grav weapon is worth more than the lives of all the men in the regiment carrying it.

>>50945515
>Sanguinius with a helmet
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEE DELET THIS

>>50945543
There's nothing wrong with random turn order and I like it.

File: Emperor's Wrath.jpg (66KB, 631x289px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 631x289px

>>50945464
Meltas or Plasma work for CCS. If you do take a CCS, I'd recommend taking the Emperor's Wrath formation. If you're not sure what that is, it's in the picture. Giving the formation vehicles orders is pretty sweet. I'd go with that plus a CAD of Vets and Pask Commander. And whatever else you have that you want to put in.

File: nids2.jpg (2MB, 2592x1936px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2592x1936px

Is the anon looking for the Nid pics from The Gothic and the Eldritch still around?

I'm back home and can take som pics now.

>>50945559
>There's nothing wrong with random turn order
Sure, you keep telling yourself that. It couldn't POSSIBLY have any problems.

>>50945559
>I like it.
You do you.

>>50945047
For Genestealer Cults, is it better to go with the Vanquiser or Battle Cannon on Leman Russes? I play against IG, Space Wolves, CSM, and Necrons most frequently, so the AP 3 large blast is enticing, but I feel like anti-vehicle is going to be a problem, while I have plenty of rending talons to kill Marines with.

File: Zoanthrope.gif (17KB, 164x205px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 164x205px

last funny one i could find

>>50945573
If you really don't like it, you can just not do it. Easy as that.

>>50945559

>I hate feeling like I'm simulating a war

Man, remember that time during the battle of the bulge time randomly distorted and happened twice as fast for the allies as the Germans at a critical moment?

>>50945575
The only thing that makes Vanquishers viable at all is BS4 Tank Commanders and their aura of +1 BS in that one Guard formation. Don't bother otherwise.

>>50945100
>so I took it away
No the fuck you didn't, you didn't, you just did a lazy rollback. I you'd just taken away the list builder, that'd have been one thing. But you've got this outdated template fucking saved somewhere and decided, "Fuck it" instead of trying to update it.

You got the old mega, the wrong label on the FAQs and Errata, still staying the fuck away from the clowns, and you trying to bring back Space 0din.

How the fuck you gonna imply that other anons were lazy for not reading the OP when you can't even be asked to be current?

File: Horo 4 - Spice and Wolf.png (950KB, 5875x8002px) Image search: [Google]

950KB, 5875x8002px

>>50945520
The thread is a bit different than the vector thread; in that the purpose is to recreate the character but in some sort of simplified maner. Typically by reducing the number of colors, removing riples and shading, and the details of the face. Some like the less detail, others like it for hiding power levels.

The warhammer stuff is probably a result of it being extrapolated too far; where the person still removes the facial details because of precedent, but is such a fan of warhammer that he still wants to do all the details.

>pic related, a more "normal" example

>>>/w/1984609

>>50945608
Yo that's not me, Anon, you mean the guy that replied to me.

>>50945543
Lol, you're clearly a try-hard WAAC fag aren't you?

You want HARDCORE TABLETOP STRATEGY? Go play chess.

This is about playing with model soldiers and rolling dice.

File: Adepta Sororita Dark Angels - Warhammer 40k.png (2MB, 4308x7999px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4308x7999px

>>50945554
Nah anon, here's some REAL heresy
>>50945338

File: 15589874_10207779385591657_7514048503752461549_n.jpg (34KB, 604x451px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 604x451px

>>50945554
Looks good he should wear the helmet more. Maybe if his hair hadn't gotten in his eyes Horus wouldn't have gutted him.

>>50945618
You right. My apple-oggies.
This >>50945608 was in response to this >>50945125

>>50945623
Oh you are like the Facebook faggots that assume competitive means full ITC waacfagging try hard

Instead of not silly list like Melee SoB, competitive means list that work and are not for the lulz alone.

Also random turn order is just stupid. Maybe in a 1v1v1 could work. Anything else is so fucking stupid it hurts

File: Tide of CTA allies - 750pts.jpg (195KB, 900x725px) Image search: [Google]

195KB, 900x725px

Decided to make a list comprising of mostly re-spawning units of hilarity. chaos is alpha legion and commissar has carapace armor to make it 750 points.

cultists kill infantry and tarpit while scions target vehicles, teqs and mecs.

>>50945680
Scions should be minimum numbers so they die faster.

>>50945518

>Gets spoonfed, though it wasn't deserved
>Still complains
Holy shit.

>>50945697
This. If you tell people they respawn, they'll try to get the numbers down to 2-3 and then not shoot them more. With 5 they're more likely to accidentally overkill.

>>50945599
I heard someone say there's a Vanquisher with some kind of instant death shell, but I don't see it in the codex. I assume that's some FW rules. Do you know what book they would be in?

>>50945669
Actually random turn order makes the game even more challenging as you have to make decisions knowing that you may not get to go first next round. It adds another layer of complexity in your strategy.

>>50945727
IA 2, armoured battlegroup list.

That list also has COMMISSAR TANKS.

>>50945616
>pictured: Leman Russ

>>50945047

Speaking of nukes...

Can I have some evidence or an example of the Imperium using traditional atomic or hydrogen bombs/missiles?

I'd be shocked if they didn't but I want an example.

>>50945742
If I recall correctly, people can't stop you from using FW in GW stores right? I mean, they can still just not play you, but there's not rules against FW stuff inherently right?

>>50945745
hahahaha nicely memed my buddy why don't you go write about it on 1d4

>>50945761
it's up to the store managers.

File: 1481988333752.gif (830KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

830KB, 250x250px

>>50945720
>"I determine what the peasants on this board deserve, I'll make sure to shove my fan-fiction down their throats whilst neglecting everything else."

That's you.

>>50945767
>>50945742
I see. Okay, thanks for the info.

>>50945761
>>50945767
FW IS GW, any GW manager that triest to stop you from palying FW in their store is going against company policy.

In your FLGS it's up to the manager but no FLGS manager should be so autistic as to try to enforce GW's mentality in their 40k games while (hopefully) running all sorts of other games simultaneously.

>>50945763
Gee thanks, cant wait for the prophet of the 8th to return.

>>50945761
FW is bullshit.

If FW stuff wasn't blatantly better then there'd be no fucking reason to buy it.

>>50945759
The deathstrike missiles are either conventional nukers or vortex depending on the warhead iirc.

>>50945759
The Imperium doesn't generally consider nuclear weaponry as we know it worth the risks of using. If they want to fuck a planet, they have Exterminatus munitions, and if they want to actually keep a hold of the land they would be conquering they don't want it to be awash with fallout.

That said, I'm pretty sure nukes were using in the Krieg civil war because it was at that time that the planet became the radioactive hellhole it is today.

>>50945792
Lol everything in the Eldar codex is leagues more broken than FW. You cant even take forge world without taking a CAD which nerfs your list even harder.

>>50945093
Yes, fucking monsters, don't get the grappling hook though, standard slaughterers are perfect, the hook is a downgrade.

>>50945808

>Closest looking thing to a revolver is the Radium pistol
>tfw no plastic revolver bits

>>50945763
What the fuck is wrong with you this thread?

>>50945787
>>50945792
It does seem like bullshit. Instant Death shots sound fun against Tau though.

>>50945807
Deathstrikes use a plasma warhead actually.

>>50945830
I support your argument for the most part but
>Peltasts
>Malcador Infernus

>>50945575
The best Russ is generally the Eradicator since the ignores cover makes it murder on lightly armored enemies and the fact that it's not Ordnance means you can fully use the hull and sponson weapons. It's also cheap. So an Eradicator with HB sponsons ends up cheaper than some of the variants bare.

The Vanquisher with Las is pretty mediocre at BS3, but I guess it arguably has a role. As for the LRBT, GSC have so much rending that I think specifically taking a more expensive weapon with hefty downsides just to deal with power armor while being weaker against everyone else is a bad idea.

>>50945834

It's been modelled off the British Service Revolver from WWI and WWII, so if you can get some plastic 28mm infantry there should be some.

92nd for the unhinged jaw of the many fanged emperor.

>>50945737

I've seen people say this before, and every time I wonder if you read what you just typed before hitting send.

I mean really, do you have any concept how stupid that sounds? I have to plan around random bullshit, so it's more strategic?

Tell you what, I'll flip a coin after every turn, and if it's tails I'll spray the table down with a fire hose and anything that breaks counts as dead. You have to plan around it, so it'll add some amazing strategical depth.

File: Tempestus Scions - 750pts new and improved.jpg (197KB, 900x728px) Image search: [Google]

197KB, 900x728px

>>50945697
What if I launched an assault with them?
here's new list.

File: Astra Militarum - 1490pts.jpg (202KB, 900x931px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 900x931px

>>50945563
I have no idea what I am doing

File: Your friends are mongoloid fagniggers.jpg (79KB, 534x304px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 534x304px

>>50945761
>>50945767
>>50945787

File: Astra Militarum - 750pts.jpg (122KB, 900x588px) Image search: [Google]

122KB, 900x588px

>>50945905
would this be an okay start from which to expand?
I am a fan of the banewold/hellhound, but Idk if they are any good.

>>50945829
>The Imperium doesn't generally consider nuclear weaponry as we know it worth the risks of using
more likely they don't need to consider nukes because their basic munitions do the same job, cleanly

Melta-torpedoes, macrobatteries, high-yield lance batteries.. they have the function and damage of nukes but without the fallout. No point in busting out nukes unless you're backwards country hick PDF bumpkins, like krieg during its civil war.

>>50945879
You know, in an actual war generals have to plan for surprises. Since you're all focused on "muh tactics" you should be okay with this.

>>50945942
Take the hellhound over the banewolf.

>>50945962

>I either A: don't know the difference between my opponent managing to pull off a surprise and large scale disturbances to the space time continuum favouring one army over the other or B: Am pretending not to to troll

>>50946012
OMFG you have just as much chance of getting a double turn as your opponent. It makes the game unpredictable and exciting.

I think it's that unpredictability that bothers you, isn't it?

Are you some kind of control freak?

Jesus fucking Christ - how are you okay with rolling dice at all?!

I wanna make a loyalist chapter with the same ideals as the pre-heresy Death Guard. All about personal endurance and deathmarches.

Which loyalist SM book/chapter would do best for this?

>>50946051

Yeah, this is trolling.

You really couldn't be incapable of telling the difference between the standard element of chance and the entire game being up in the air.

>>50946051
>unpredictability = fun
t. Ork player

>OMFG
>>>/facebook/

>>50946083
Sons of anteaus.

>>50946083
Iron Hands chapter tactics but fluffing their 6+ FNP as coming from harsh enviormental training rather than machine implants.

>>50946083
Iron Hand chapter tactics could work. It makes your dudes more durable especially characters.

>>50946105
>>50946114
Ironmind

>>50946051
Please purge yourself.

>>50946105
>>50946114

That could work, especially since I wanted to run Dread-heavy. After all, dudes who are obsessed with longevity would be all about even serving in death.

>>50946086
I see now. You care more about winning than actually playing the game.

You're the type of person who would be utterly crushed if you lost a game because of random turn order. The randomness would ruin all of your carefully laid plans and list building. All of it dashed because your opponent happened to roll higher and went first.

Your mentality is so clear now. The game is only fun if you're winning and you can only be assured of victory if you can eliminate all, or most, randomness from the game.

You probably whine about 2d6 charge distance in 40k don't you? Assuming you aren't already playing Tau or Eldar and therefore don't even bother with charging.

is Dark Heresy any good?

File: b93.png (267KB, 800x820px) Image search: [Google]

267KB, 800x820px

Can you guys go discuss random turn orders in the age of sigmar tread please? Some people just like playing 40k.

>>50946153
Yes

>>50945759
Bombardment cannon(on SM battle Barges) shoot nukes. Once IH used them near IG regiment. Guardsmen died from radiation sickness couple weeks later.

>>50946173
He could have simply died from space radiation.

What books do I need to form an armored battle group? There is nothing listed for it in the normal Astra militarum codex.

>>50946188
Imperial Armor 2 from Forge World has the full army list in it. You might need the Guard codex too, and that's Imperial Guard to you, son, not Astra Militarum.

>>50946188
IA 2.

>>50946186
It was during fights on planet surface, BB was used to orbital bombardment.

>>50946142
>I see now. You care more about winning than actually playing the game.

Weird ass assumption to make.

>You're the type of person who would be utterly crushed if you lost a game because of random turn order.

Buddy, I'd be pissed if I -won- a game due to that bullshit.

>The randomness would ruin all of your carefully laid plans and list building. All of it dashed because your opponent happened to roll higher and went first.

More weird-ass assumptions.

>Your mentality is so clear now. The game is only fun if you're winning and you can only be assured of victory if you can eliminate all, or most, randomness from the game.

Close games are the most fun games. Drastic swings that have nothing to do with either player's actions are a purely negative element unless all you want from the game is to laugh at the crazy shit that happens.

>You probably whine about 2d6 charge distance in 40k don't you? Assuming you aren't already playing Tau or Eldar and therefore don't even bother with charging.

And now you're just throwing in random hot-button buzzwords to try to provoke a reaction.

File: Space Marines - 1000pts (2).jpg (188KB, 900x841px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 900x841px

how dis look

>>50946142
Not him, but yeah, winning against skilled opponents is a large part of the fun for me. What's wrong with that?

File: Armies of the Imperium - 2000pts.jpg (387KB, 900x2092px) Image search: [Google]

387KB, 900x2092px

planning to build this list.

>>50946188
Imperial Armour Volume 1 Second Edition. Imperial Armour Volume 2 is spess muhreens.

>>50945761

They can cry but muh qoutas but you can remind them a letter to HQ with names and dates = they fucked

File: Chaos Space Marines - 1000pts (4).jpg (107KB, 900x566px) Image search: [Google]

107KB, 900x566px

It's garbage, isn't it?

>>50945792
I think it's the sexy models that make people buy it.

>>50946471
need rhinos for CSM

do 5 man raptor squads for more special weapons

make sure you buy mark of khorne for everyone and make it a world eaters detachment

About how many dice does one bring to their games?

>>50946386
Netlist/10

I've finally articulated why Nurgle CSM HQs are underwhelming.

They're no better at their USP than the guys under their command.

Khornate lords are amazing in melee. Tzeentch sorcerors can go up to psyker level 3. Slaaneshi lords can go to I6 and strike before most things in the game.

Nurgle Lords are...T5, just like everything else in the army.

They just feel like more of a tax than the other gods' HQs.

>>50946153
No.


>>50946593
A tablet with a dice roller program. It's way quicker.

>>50946593
Depends. With war convo, i have about ~50. With Imperial Guard foot-regiment, I bring 150 since thats max how much I can shoot per unit.

>>50946593
A bag of 50 that I got, but usually use only 25 or so max. Depends on the army I suppose

>>50946611
Any chaos sorcerer can go up to ml3.

>>50946632

You get what I mean, though. The rest of the army isn't ML3, the rest of a Nurgle army is just as tough as the Lord is.

>>50946613
>A tablet with a dice roller program. It's way quicker.

How to take excitement out of a game 101

>>50946670
Also how to make me think you are cheating 101

>>50946593
I have a sack of 38 dice that have been specially selected via a Darwinian process to ensure that they tend to roll high. I have big dice that I use for important things/special weapons, and special dice that tend to roll low for characteristic tests, and then lots of small dice that roll high for stuff like just shooting.

>>50946724
My friend has one on his tablet and he swears that the coding is cursed. He always allows his opponent to use it too but it always screws him over royally, not the opponent.

File: Taufags butthurt.png (2MB, 2048x1536px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2048x1536px

Tank shock never forget

File: TauLogic.jpg (156KB, 797x421px) Image search: [Google]

156KB, 797x421px

>>50946841

>>50946670
>It's exciting to sort through a pile of dozens of dice, counting out the exact amount, and then sorting through their results and rerolling them 2 to 3 additional times.

Nah. I'd rather play the game rather than spend hours fumbling with 4 tens of dice.

>>50946724
You're stupid then. It's far easier to inspect open source code or certifications by third parties of a program's fairness, than it is to inspect every one of the hundreds of dice required for a 40k game.

It is also far easier to cheat with real dice than a mutually agreed upon dice program. Just sneak some loaded dice into the pot.

>>50945831
Anyone wanna weigh in here and disagree, or are the hooks so awful that it's common knowledge?

File: buisness caste.jpg (27KB, 336x400px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 336x400px

>>50946841
>>50946856
Some nice Imperial Salt here

>>50946875
Shh now, we've already determined you're a bad killjoy of this game.

>>50945337
Good points, to add to this, if you are going with plasma, take 3, because one will inevitably melt his face off. Command squads in chims are nice because orders are key with a vet army (ignore cover rapid fire plasma is great)

Leave sergeants barebones, except maybe a bolter if you want that 24 inch range. Voxes are also nice, but the cadia book gives you an artifact that lets you get orders off on everything but 12s which is good too.

>>50946841
Do those tau fags even read the rules?
Tank shock Stormsurge mean jus D3 W lost.

>>50946993
it was faq'd that if a storm surge is anchored than it is immediately removed instead of taking d3 wounds.

>>50946993
Tau scum detected.

>>50946953
>Command squads in chims are nice because orders are key with a vet army (ignore cover rapid fire plasma is great)
You cannot issue an order to an embarked unit, so orders are actually fairly useless if you're going full mechvet.

>>50946611
Nurgle sorcerers have an extremely good lore.

Winged Nurgle DPs have shrouded. Which lets them jink for 2+.

What Nurgle lords (and Sorcs) have competitively is MoN + Bikes on a character. T6, 4++, FNP reroll 1s makes for an extremely tough character immune to strength based instant death, and extremely resilient to AP 2. Plus your Warlord traits almost all just make him tougher.

MoN may be "just" T5, but toughness is an incredibly valuable stat, particularly for characters with how it interacts with instant death.

>>50947032
Rly? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Get rekt tau.
>>50947048
Nope, tau are the only race in 40k i don't like.

>>50945563
Wrath is cool, but I'm not sure if vets is the best way to run it. You're putting a lot of points into some vulnerable vehicles, so you're best bet is to bubblewrap with platoons and adl/void shields. Just my opinion though. I need to get an arty company built up and actually play some games with it.

What's the consensus on using the FW manticore in the formation?

>>50946875
I don't know about you but i cant inspect open source code. Also 3rd party certifications can be biased. And how many loaded dice are we talking that you are sneaking into the pot? 10 or so always rolling 6's is going to raise some suspicions in most games.while 1 or 2 arent going to sway enough to be worth it.

File: thefuck.gif (2MB, 320x240px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 320x240px

>>50945879
Yes, planning around variables makes things more strategic. If everything is on goddamned rails there isn't any strategy at all, it's just a spreadsheet calculator.

>>50945962
Logistics and tactics are two different things.

>>50946158
A classic (you)! I remember those.

File: World Eaters - 1850pts.jpg (207KB, 900x1177px) Image search: [Google]

207KB, 900x1177px

How fucked am I?

Grey Guard Anon here since we couldn't figure it out the last time I'm gonna try it one more time.
Trips=What force I should ally to my Guard.
Quads=How many points will the force be.

>>50947277
Daemons

>>50947277
necrons and 1000

>>50947246
Things occurring during a battle, such as a flank attack, or the sudden arrival of reinforcements are not examples of logistics but are themselves surprises which necessitate a reordering of the battle plan.

Came into a a Death guard Vs Thousand sons same expecting to win

Opposing army turned out tow be Magnus with 23 dice worth of mortal and damon warp charge batteries and rolled the warp storm that reduces warp charge costs by 1 and I expected to be wiped

Turn 2 my Nurgle Prince with the black mace is assaulted and accidentally a Magnus.

>>50947326
Are you anon from last night/this morning that was talking about how your friend always takes terrible lists?

>>50947326
Yup. Magnus is scary, but he's so expensive and important that if he ever dies the whole army just folds.

>>50947277
>Trips
>Quads
Kindly get the fuck out.

>>50947081
>Rly? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Get out.

>>50947277
gr3 nigger, just think of something you like the look,sound/rules of yourself rather than shitting up the general with gets Dark Eldar though

>>50947326
>Thousand Sons player
>Exactly one Thousand Son in his list
>it's Magnus
These people are scum.
Also >>50947349. Good on you for turning the tables on him.

>>50947326
>Turn 2 my Nurgle Prince with the black mace is assaulted and accidentally a Magnus.
How. HOW. How could he assault Magnus? Magnus should been flying!

>>50947384
>is assaulted

>>50947374
Sorry anon thought the quads would just be a way to mix it up.

>>50947317
Logistics demonstrates that there is no such thing as a "sudden" arrival of reinforcements. If they show up by surprise, you have already lost. You might be able to adapt in the moment, and turn a crushing defeat into a minor defeat, or if the opponent is particularly incompetent, a minor victory.

But unless you are on the squad-level, any situation that requires you alter a battle-plan already in motion is probably a bad one.

>>50947349
Not terrible, thematic, but yes.

>>50947350
It was total fluke
My DP takes a charge and Magnus tears him down to 1 wound
DP retaliates, makes two wounds, Magnus saves one with his boosted 3++, but rolls a 6 on his toughness check for the second and is removed.

>>50947381
Naw, Magnus, a exalted sorc, a scarab occult unit and two rubric squads.

>>50947276
Too many tiny units, I would fold the CAD into the warband or vice versa if you really want to take that Blood Slaughterer

>>50946211
IA 1 2nd ed. You can also take coaxial stubbers from the ABG list which effectively twin links your vanquisher cannons when firing at targets witing 36 inches. IA1 also gives you access to LR annihilators and laser destroyers which are both viable anti tank platforns as well

>>50946606
Are dev centurions good? i actually took out the devestator squad so it wouldnt be netlisty.

>>50947599
Theyre durable, have the ability to fire both of their weapons, and have Slow and Purposeful on a heavy weapons platform. Yes, theyre good, really good.

>>50947599
Yes, grav centurions are great of course. Imperial Fist Las/Missile Centurions are ok.

File: 15726364_846973182111728_6098057575539526352_n.jpg (132KB, 914x672px) Image search: [Google]

132KB, 914x672px

High Flyin' Adventure.

>>50947646
I'd never want an army in that scheme, but the yellow bike is cool.

>>50947393
Oh. True. Well, that makes sense. Poor TS-player.

File: Chaos Space Marines - 1000pts.jpg (154KB, 900x628px) Image search: [Google]

154KB, 900x628px

How does the nurgle list look? OK without being too netlisty or cheesey?

>>50947646
Do we know anything new about this?

>>50945595
Random turns are bs but are you seriously trying to compare a turn based system to real life?

>>50947646
So not Necromunda reborn

>>50947698
It's the opposite of netlisty. You aren't using Vectorium or their best units.

As for min strength squads with meltaguns, they should probably have a Rhino so they can get in position to use the melta. If you want a midrange shooty squad use a plasma gun instead.

>>50947727
Just whatever that ad says

Which Space Marine chapter would you guys say is the most violent and brutal out of the lot? Are there any that toe the line between loyalist and renegade, being ruthless mercenaries more so than disciplined soldiers?

>>50947778
This is either a Necromunda/GorkaMorka revival or a supplement for DE focusing on gang stuff like wyches and hellions.

>>50947646
Actually, it's "Breakneck Combat in the Dark City". I'm really hoping they squeeze plastic Incubi in there somehow.

>>50947796
Flesh Tearers

>>50947796
Flesh Tearers. Carcharodons.

>>50947796
Carcharodons
Those piss yellow fuckers whose names I forget
Space Wolves arguably but they're pretty fucking loyal allegedly

>>50945158
>>50945194

Didn't GW already say that "everybody" is getting something new in 2017?

>>50947810
make wyches good maybe?

>>50947846
Yes, everybody that isn't an NPC faction.

>>50945834
>Closest looking thing to a revolver is the Radium pistol
Gotta do my acshually bit here:
GorkaMorka orks had revolvers and blunderbusses.
Some of the plastic models had these ugly revolvers too. They'd look comical on human models and especially modern ones but I guess that's to be expected by ~20 year old bits.
There was a blister of grot guns even. Just the guns nothing else.

That aside one of the FW Preator minis had a gun that looked a lot like a sixshooter to me. Don't remember what it was though, one of the 30k weapons.

>>50947796
Carcharodons, Flesh Tearers, Marines Malevolent, Angels Penitent

>>50947826
Marines Malevolent?

>>50947826
Marines Malevolent, but they're not really brutalistic. Just disregard casualties in light of the objectives being completed.

>>50947796
Carcharodons, Knights of Blood, and Flesh Tearers.

>>50947796
Marines Malevolent, Carcharodons

>>50947796
Marines Malevolent are the ones that fit your description best, they have no problem killing civilians and using excessive ammounts of firepower or killing other astartes for material gain and are borderline renegades at this point as very few organizations will supply them. If a Rogue Trader asked them to do something in exchange for power armor and other supplies they would probably accept out of necessity.

Other asshole chapters are Black Templars, Space Sharks, Flesh Tearers and Iron Hands though none are as shunned by the Imperium as the Marines Malevolent.

>>50947874
>Marines Malevolent, but they're not really brutalistic. Just disregard casualties in light of the objectives being completed.
They were declared renegade because they gave so little of a shit about anything that wasn't wearing power armor even the imperial bureaucracy got moving fast enough that happened before the Chapter disappeared on it's own.
Now they steal the supplies they need.

They are turbo cunts.
The Armageddon supplement had a fluff piece about them describing how the believe that the weak don't deserve to live, i.e. the people they came to assist in the first place.

File: 1390251529707.jpg (26KB, 460x344px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 460x344px

>>50947646
>yfw REALLY fast GorkaMorka reboot

>>50945533
There arent any women serving in front line poisitons in the guard.

It's supposed to be a realisitc military organisation not ghostbusters 2016. Begone and take your memes with you.

>>50947937
Anon please, don't be stupid.

>>50947927
That's not like the other examples, which basically go out of the way of efficiency to kill in as brutal a way as they can.

MM however will just shell everything because fuck risking important resources.

Looking for a solid unit for a Corsair Prince to hang out with - he's a pretty solid combat character with plenty of transport options (bike, jet pack primarily) but not sure who to have him hang out with - I don't mind Eldar, Harlequin, or Dark Eldar allied units.

>>50945533
>>50947937
>There arent any women serving in front line poisitons in the guard.
But that's wrong.
Xenonian Warriors for example are a exclusively female regiment.

Female minis are rarer. You best option is probably Victoria, cause they are multipart kits and intended for building an army and not just being a pin up.
Next best thing I can think of would be the Eisenkern troopers with the big booty.
They're taller than Marines though.

>>50946051
Yes, definatly the kind of spurg to enjoy Aos.

File: Female_Catachan2.jpg (194KB, 506x1105px) Image search: [Google]

194KB, 506x1105px

>>50947937

>>50947913
Appreciate all the replies. I think Marines Malevolent might be the chapter I'm looking for.

>>50947937
There are all female guard regiments. But fuck I don't want to get into this fucking argument again.

>>50947978
>Unironically playing complete assholes

File: IMG_0074.png (2MB, 1334x750px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1334x750px

Hold the line guard bro's!!

File: 1446599959402.jpg (63KB, 625x626px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 625x626px

>>50947937
>40k
>realistic

>>50947957
If he's on a bike Reavers are excellent, partner up with a Banshee mask biker Autarch for a fast and surprisingly durable mini-deathstar.

If he's on foot then if you're ballsy you can go with Malevolents or otherwise I guess Incubi in some kind of transport.

>>50947937
>40k realistic

Beside if you can hold a fire lasgun and follow orders it is good enough for a shitty IG regiment and fucking gold for PDF

The genitals do not matter when facing bloody aliens and demons

File: IMG_0072.png (2MB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 750x1334px

>>50947994

Okay if i want to strip something thats already been based what do i do?

>>50947962
>But that's wrong.
>Xenonian Warriors for example are a exclusively female regiment

One small reference in black library. Not much to go on. I'd play against your xenonian guard of amazons in space, but i dont see any reason to import the warrior women meme into the game considering how badly it shits up the aesthetic in other games.

>>50947977
Thanks for making my point. About 1 in 50 women would be able to physically carry that gear for afew kilometers. And they wouldn't look that attractive.

Would anyone be able to post Karmazov stat page? This nuking allies thing intrigues the fuck out of me.

File: IMG_0073.png (2MB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 750x1334px

>>50948013

>>50948021
Meaning you want to preserve the base's paintjob?

>>50948001

Hmm - not too bad, probably go a smallish DEldar allied detachment, pick up 2 venom boats and maybe a WWP for some deepstrike shenanigans.

>>50948043
not really.

>>50948029
You do know that in real life there are women in the army? Doing actual combat?

They don't look like pin up though. Just small men. Under all the gear it really doesn't matter, specially in modern combat where long term endurance only happens when someone at comand fucks up so bad.

File: bfpd.jpg (513KB, 1153x1600px) Image search: [Google]

513KB, 1153x1600px

>>50948029
>One small reference in black library
No. 3rd Ed. Guard Codex.

>>50948073
Just go about stripping it then really. Shouldn't be much more difficult, though as usual remember to stay careful about not melting anything.

>>50948029

The Ciaphus Cain series literally has him serving with a mixed male-female regiment for half the series, and outside of that, some of the PDF on Perlia is female as well. Tanith First and Only has female members following Necropolis (so for most of the series). That's two of the biggest Guard series on Black Library and they both feature female Guardsmen.

>>50948032
Dont have it handy but short story is he has a Orbital Bombardment with three weapon profiles, if centered on a friendly model it doesnt scatter.

The idea being you have been assaulted in the enemy turn but didnt get run down/lose morale, so in your shooting phase you can drop thay down.

It's fluffy but very situational. Ive seen it used once and it arguably made things worse for karamazovs side. But still fun imo.

>>50947854
Quality bait, bud.

>>50948073
Then just just soak it in Super Clean/Simple Green/etc. for 24 hours and then brush it. It will come free of the base if it was superglued.

>>50947992
I'm a sucker for morally flexible mercenaries. Shame about the colour scheme though.

>>50948089
>lucky 13s
>severe losses: battle of low corridor
my sides

File: dettol stripping.jpg (238KB, 1183x800px) Image search: [Google]

238KB, 1183x800px

>>50948021

File: gw catachan vasquez.jpg (31KB, 600x450px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 600x450px

>>50948029
>but i dont see any reason to import the warrior women meme into the game considering how badly it shits up the aesthetic in other games.
Female IG soldiers were always a thing.
Catachans had this weapon specialist and the last chancers/penal legion models had two as well. There even was a female commissar.

So basically you just don't know the setting as well as you'd like to know.

GW also has an all female army of warrior women called sisters of battle and just released the sister of silence.
Not to mention the Inquisitors that were female. I mean short of being a high lord of terra there isn't a more powerful position in the imperium.

>>50948116
>>50948093
okay good as i was thinking about picking up some models off ebay and they are already based and painted and they dont look like mine so.

>>50948159
>I mean short of being a high lord of terra there isn't a more powerful position in the imperium.

Hell, one of the high lords is an inquisitor.

>>50947937

there are, faggot.

File: IMG_3630.png (280KB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

280KB, 750x1334px

>>50948032

Are there any BL books that prominently feature Mortarion? I was disappointed how little he was in Flight of the Eisenstein.

>>50948380
Its sad that he can only use the nuke once per game anymore.

>>50948421
I thought he had 3?

>>50948433
Nah. Only one.

>>50948380
Baller as fuck. Hows the Orbital strike statwise?

>>50948380
What I don't get is why Karamazov is the only inquisitor who can get a orbital strike relay. should be an option to other inquisitor since it's common among inquisitors IMO.

>>50948542
IIRC, either Large Blast D3 S6 AP4 barrage, S6 AP4 Barrage Large Blast Psy-shock (One random psyker in the unit hit Perilses) or S10 AP1 Barrage Lance Blast.

>>50948532
Only if you take him from Imperial Agents. And why would you?

>>50948385
Scars, Daemonology, Mortarion's Heart

>>50945121
At this point, Squats are literally the only race to ever be squatted.

File: Nito.jpg (31KB, 450x376px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 450x376px

>>50948647

Are there any viable Ork Lists?

>>50945486
The issue is when we post lists we'll here "how did you make this?" and won't be able to embarrase them by telling them to see the OP

>>50948647
"Clashes at neckbreaking speeds in the Dark City". "Soon". Thanks, google translate.

>>50948718
Really? I got the much better "Clashes at breakneck speed in the dark city. Coming soon!"

>>50948666
Because where we live, we play by the newest rules. It gets very very confusing very quickly if you dont use the latest rules for models.

>>50948737
GW did say both sets are valid. I'd blame it on them, and I hope you wouldn't force anybody to use (much less buy) the heaping pile of shit that is Imperial Agents.

>>50948764
Source?

File: 1482281595319.jpg (224KB, 688x1044px) Image search: [Google]

224KB, 688x1044px

>>50947913
>Other asshole chapters are Black Templars
oh come on it was just 1 church and a few sisters, they were heretics anyways.

File: KhorneBerserkerCharge(1).jpg (213KB, 564x800px) Image search: [Google]

213KB, 564x800px

What would make a fluffy World Eaters list?

>>50945533
raging heroes. Russian/Prussian themed female guard supplements. If you use the Prussian themed models they go amazing with a death korps army.

http://www.ragingheroes.com/products/ie-iron-storm-troops

>>50948764
I know they have made single-case exceptions (old/new Iron Priests, using old SoB list with celestine etc) but is there general ruling about this? Like really, non-email black-on-white answer?

>>50948842

A bunch of dudes who are fitted entirely for close combat. You want to be closing the gap as soon as fucking possible.

>>50945428
I heard that his son was responsible for the idea.

>>50948532
So another reason to play Inquisition instead of Imperial Agents.

So since we apparently have 5+ months with no Sisters coming, is anyone surprised? I mean raise your hand if you are because I need to know whom I can sell some bridges to.

>>50948888

>So since we apparently have 5+ months with no Sisters coming

February, famalam.

>>50948888
Khorne, it's still not February.

>>50947994
>>50948013
>>50948035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE4BxPwu4zI

>>50945477
>No Renegades & Heretics
bruh.

>>50948872
And for heavy support?

>>50948900
Reliable source on Reddit going by the name Sanguinius has said that his source has no knowledge of any plastic sisters kits or new books in the next 5 months (excluding Celestine). So what do you have to support Feb?

>>50948842
Take their detachment. Then move 26 inches on the first turn and

REND, KILL, TEAR THEM LIMB FROM LIMB

>>50948917

>Heavy Support
>World Eaters

Is it a dude swinging something that can remove heads?

>>50948888
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

>>50948952
A Defiler perhaps? Those have CCWs.

>>50948942

>Reliable source on Reddit going by the name Sanguinius

My source is reliable too. He goes by the name Angron. Do you want to flop our sources out on the table and measure who has the biggest reliability?

>>50948917
Havocs with BP/CCW in a Rhino.

>>50947957
/r/

>>50948952
B-but it's a mandatory slot

So basically Maelstrom of Gore would be the best option for troops right?

>>50948952
World eaters still use havocs. There was that world eaters havoc squad in that story.

Anyway you could still give them special weapons and close combat weapons. Melta, flamer. Plasma if you don't mind not charging (never)

>>50948981
Don't turn into a pissy bitch just because someone is asking for citation. That's how you go full SJW. And no one should go full SJW.

Seriously though, I'm pretty rumor hungry so I spend a fair amount of time digging for stuff and have not seen a single claim for Feb beyond speculation hence why I asked.

>>50949016
Havocs with Heavy Bolters. AKA The Teeth of Khorne.

>>50948997
Hadn't tought of it, kek.

>>50949016
All World Eaters are Berzerkers, but not all Berzerkers are World Eaters.

>>50948942
excuse me, I have CONFIRMED source Hastings on BOLS saying new sisters stats are:

cost: 2 plasma guns and a bolt pistol each
WS 1 more than an Ork's Initiative, BS same as half a Guardsman's LD

Squad may take 2 meltaguns at one-seventh a Rhino each

>>50948917
>heavy support
Don't use a CAD. You should be using the Butcher horde to get Blood Mad. Use Melta guns, Melta Bombs and Furious Charge attacks to crack armor. Defiler is garbage.

What paints give way to a desert looking design

>>50949049
Hastings was a poster on Warseer who never posted on rules unless something changed.

And 31 points a model? Really? Top kek I guess.

>>50949053

Also, because I'm only a world eaters player vicariously, please run this dude at least once. Do it for me, Anon:

Chaos Lord (Mark of Khorne, Berzerker Glaive, Juggernaut, Sigil of Corruption, Combat Familiar)

He runs on his own, due to the glaive. He either takes skulls or dies a glorious death.

>>50949011
Nah. Chaos Warband is better. Combi-melta Termies or Possessed, BP/CCW CSM, Bikers, and BP/CCW Havocs.

File: Sadness.jpg (37KB, 300x246px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 300x246px

>>50947646
Us Ork players are so hated we don't even get our specialist game back. I'd much rather have Necromunda or Gorkamorka.

>>50949139
You're not hated. You're just not loved.

>>50949065
Tallarn Sand, Steel Legion Drab, Ushabti Bone, Karak Sand.

>>50949049
They have BS 3.5?

File: 1337786990010.jpg (442KB, 1076x1434px) Image search: [Google]

442KB, 1076x1434px

>>50948952
implying khorne gives a fuck

Pretty much all of his daemon engines are loaded with fucking guns.

>>50949065
Tans, Khakis, and Ochres. Tallarn Sand, XV-88, Ushabti Bone, that sort of thing.

>>50949151
damn i shoulda known that the paints with sand in them would be used for desert colors

Sitting on a box of burning of prospero marines.
Do I make them death guard, as originally planned, or black templars?

Are BTs getting new rules in fall of cadia?

>>50949105
How is it better? Those units are only WS4 which means they'll miss with half of their attacks, and without +3 charge range and Fleet the chance of a Turn1 charge is greatly diminished.

>>50945623
How can chess be hardcore strategy if white are unbalanced and there is only 1 page of rules ?

>>50949185

Why BTs? Those are all pre-heresy armour marks. They'd still be Imperial Fists.

>>50949202
Because nerds get hard over how fast they can beat your mom in a game.

>>50949163
>brass scorpion
>blood slaughterer
>lord of skulls
All melee-oriented.

>>50948035
>>50948013
>>50947994
How do 3 Bullgryn work for you? I want to include them in my army, but I always feel like 3 won't do enough, but 5 is too expensive.

Also, love the pictures, Starship Troopers anon and you have fun looking games.

Just got Agents and noticed the inquisitional chimera is 55 points and now identical to the AM one

>>50949216
Well there are instances of pre heresey armour surfacing in M.4whatever, but in all honesty the "knight" aesthetic just really suits templars.

If it helps, you could imagine them as Sigismunds first Templars from when the fists were split. If it helps.

>>50949185
>Are BTs getting new rules in fall of cadia?

Maybe, we dont know for sure.

>>50949235
>face is a giant gun
>granted
>belly gun, gatling gun arm, blood tanks shooting burning blood on shit

you also forgot
>blood reaper: siege tower made of stacked cannons
>cauldron of blood: superheavy tank that shoots blood out of a giant vat on the back
>death dealer: the lord of skulls but with the blood tanks replaced by cannons
>doom blaster: it's four giant mortars on treads
>lord of battles: gatling cannon arm
>tower of skulls: it's a baneblade but with more skulls

Khorne loves guns. One of his boons is gun-limbs with infinite ammo.

>>50949200
WE CSM are massively cheaper than Berserkers. To the point that Berserkers are largely obsolete. Plus Warband gives the majority of your army Obsec which is incredibly powerful when you're jamming your opponent in their deployment zone and generally one of the best rules you can have for scenario play.

MoG has nice special rules but they're largely a wash with obsec, and you're paying a hefty tax for them.

>>50949216
>They'd still be Imperial Fists.
Relic Armor is a thing.

File: 99800101003_EmperorsChampionNEW_1.jpg (24KB, 600x620px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 600x620px

>>50949276
I'm a big fan of the BT Crusader helms (like on the EC). Been tempted to knick GK ones just to make the army using only that helmet.

I want to do something different for the Neophyte heads too but I can't seem to nail anything that fits in my mind. I just want them to look more "squire" eske versus the normal scout head.

>>50949200
>and without +3 charge range and Fleet the chance of a Turn1 charge is greatly diminished.

Blood Mad Khornate bikers more than make up for that.

>>50949170
Would a base of ustabi bone with a highlight of Ustabi bone look deserty?

File: Codex_Black_Templars_cover.jpg (195KB, 600x870px) Image search: [Google]

195KB, 600x870px

So /tg/ what is the best loyalist chapter and why is it Black Templars?

File: s-l300.jpg (15KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 300x300px

>>50949329
>I want to do something different for the Neophyte heads too but I can't seem to nail anything that fits in my mind. I just want them to look more "squire" eske versus the normal scout head.

You could use the Blood Angels bare heads.

>>50949367
It would look like Ushabti Bone

>>50949372

Probably because they've never felt the touch of a shit writer amd have some pretty sweet minis.
Pity some of them are OOP.

File: KhornateBerzerker2.jpg (125KB, 533x800px) Image search: [Google]

125KB, 533x800px

>>50949295
Doesn't really refute mt argument. Sure they have guns, but they're all melee oriented. It's like saying Zerkers are ranged troops because they carry bolt pistols.

Guns are only for closing the gap.

>>50949305
I'd say the Turn1 charge potential +WS5 is very well worth the points, ObSec is nice but I was asking for a fluffy list and sitting on objectives instead of killing your enemies doesn't seem like a very Khornate way to play.

>>50949329
I use sisters and necromunda redemptionists as my neophytes. gives the army a nice fanatical crusader look.

File: image.jpg (93KB, 768x576px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 768x576px

>>50949329
Something like this?

Thoughts on the following list:

Eldar CAD
>Autarch - Skyrunner, Banshee Mask, Laser Lance
>Farseer
>20x Guardians - 2x Starcannons
>3x Windriders - 3x Scatter Lasers
>5x Warp Spiders
>Wraithknight - Glaive and Shield

Dark Eldar CAD
>Lhamean - Venom w/2x Splinter Cannons
>5x Warriors - Venom w/2x Splinter Cannons
>5x Warriors - Venom w/2x Splinter Cannons
>3x Reavers - Cluster Caltrops

Corsair Raiding Party
>Corsair Prince - Cloud Dancer, Void Sabre, Shadowfield
>Corsair Baron - Cloud Dancer, Shadowfield
>3x Cloud Dancers - 3x Scatter Lasers
>5x Reavers - Felarch, 2x Fusion Guns, Venom w/Splinter Cannon/Scatter Laser & Void Burners
>5x Reavers - Felarch, 2x Fusion Guns, Venom w/Splinter Cannon/Scatter Laser & Void Burners

Considering dropping the spiders for another Reaver or two and upgrading the corsair venoms to Shruiken Cannon/Scatter Lasers.

>>50949270
*65

>>50949270
You can still use the Inquisition PDF since it's still being sold.

File: IMG_1879.jpg (94KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 1024x768px

>>50949398
>but they're all melee oriented
no they aren't

>>50949406
Flagellants with scout arms also does the trick.

File: 99120107002_PurifiersNEW02.jpg (47KB, 600x620px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 600x620px

>>50949378
Perhaps. I'm not sure if that really nails the right look or not. I was thinking of the uncovered GK heads since they have those cloth coifs but I don't know.

>>50949417
Hmm...that's an interesting look. How'd they do it?

>>50949398
Obsec lets you deny the objectives in your opponents zone while your cutting them up. Otherwise their Obsec still gets to score it. But wherever, you've obviously already made your decision.

File: IMG-812171135.jpg (122KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]

122KB, 960x720px

Im super proud of my first time painter friend. He's nearly done with his 50 pink horrors and just did his 5 icons in different colors to indicate squads and I think they look great. He followed the duncan tutorial for fire.

>>50949436
Isn't that a buff for the chimera though?

>>50949476
Using the Inquisition PDF one is a buff yes. 10 points less and 5 models can fire from inside it.

The only buff the AM one has over it is that it has the Lasgun Arrays that can count towards weapon destroyed results. Not really worth losing 3 models being able to fire.

File: image.jpg (43KB, 540x402px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 540x402px

So my mother just beat Lost Patrol on her first attempt.

>>50949528
Is she hot?

>>50949470

That's pretty dope, and a good idea for picking out squads.

>>50949386
what does that mean is that good or bad?

>>50949560

If by hot you mean 46 and overweight, then sure.

I'm just noting it because that game is meant to be basically impossible, by reputation.

>>50949426

Revamped:

Eldar CAD
>Autarch - Skyrunner, Banshee Mask, Laser Lance
>Farseer - Spirit Stone of Anath'lan
>20x Guardians - 2x Eldar Missile Launchers
>3x Windriders - 3x Scatter Lasers
>Wraithknight - Glaive and Shield

Dark Eldar CAD
>Lhamean - Venom w/2x Splinter Cannons
>5x Warriors - Venom w/2x Splinter Cannons
>5x Warriors - Venom w/2x Splinter Cannons
>4x Reavers - Cluster Caltrops, Arena Master w/Power Sword

Corsair Raiding Party - Coterie is Sky Burners
>Corsair Prince - Cloud Dancer, Void Sabre, Shadowfield
>Corsair Baron - Cloud Dancer, Shadowfield
>3x Cloud Dancers - 3x Scatter Lasers
>5x Reavers - Felarch, 2x Fusion Guns, Venom w/Shruiken Cannon/Scatter Laser & Void Burners
>5x Reavers - Felarch, 2x Fusion Guns, Venom w/Shruiken Cannon/Scatter Laser & Void Burners