Would the ability to process and react to visual information

>>50921933
Heightened perception doesn't have to mean a stunted attention span.

>>50921933
It'd probably mean you'd get over the thinking process faster than other people in a cinema, so everyone else laughs or emotes a bit too late and a bit too long for your liking.

>>50921965
>>50921996

What i mean is, wouldn't the Illusion of motion caused by rapidly changing images not work on you anymore?

Every movie would look like a slideshow.

>>50922067
Theoretically yes, unless the person can turn that power "off" or can find a framerate that still creates the illusion.

>>50921933
Just get a display with a faster refresh rate and you'll do fine (although it will look a bit awkward and stuttery)

>>50921996
There are people who think faster. Apparently that's a thing for some ADHD people, they get bored during conversation because they feel like other people speak too slowly.

>>50921933
Just put the movie on accelerate. /thread

>>50921933
I think his ability to 'see' faster is related to how much adrenaline is getting dumped into his body, so probably not.
I figure he also can control it, the same way I assume all speedsters do

>>50922067
Probably. Think of it like this. Lets say humans see at 30 frames per second, while they can notice faster speeds to some extent going slower is when people start to really notice something as choppy or laggy. A game at 30 fps is a bit slow, a game at 15 is practically unplayable. Now lets double a person's perception speed, so their max is at 60, they can notice as high as say 90 or 100 fps but much slower than 60 and they start to notice choppiness. So a person with half the reaction time or whatever sees a 30 fps game like a regular person sees a 15 fps game. While it really isn't that bad since most threatre movies are well above 30 fps and games can easily run above 60 fps, when it comes to TV they may actually notice lag or stuttering.

However if we are talking about extremely fast reflexes or whatever like 10 times faster than a human's than they pretty much can't enjoy any form of electronic entertainment that isn't custom made or modified for them since you can't really find movies or games with frame rates of 300+ fps. So unless you like playing call of duty at a comparative 3 frames per second you are stuck with reading and masturbating for your entertainment. Also your porn is probably just going to be still frames so filmed or animated porn doesn't induce seizures with their comparatively shitty frame rates.

Unless your reflexes are like 100 times faster than a regular human's however you won't see them as a slide show, just as a really shitty and laggy movie or game.

>>50922809
>>Lets say humans see at 30 frames per second
Troll detected.
But I believe cinema is 48 frames per second with 2 frames being the same picture; that'd make it an effective 24 frames per second.

I do somewhat remember watching a justice league episode where the Flash is kinda stuck at full speed. He describes not having a conversation with anyone for what feels like eons just because they 'speak slowly'. But I have a feeling they can usually turn this ability off, or perhaps just adapt to it.

That being said. The flash can also process information at a stupidly quick rate. So people pausing for effect would be painfully long to him.

>>50923139
Flash also throughly enjoys television, so he likely got used to the slideshow format or can 'turn it off' so to speak.

>>50923214
Flash is most definitely a turn off or turn on style power since he can hold normal conversations with people.

>>50923139
It's 24x3 for 72 FPS, but ultimately it's still 24 fps because the intermediate frames don't convey any real visual information.

The noteworthy thing about movies, though, is that their 24 fps deal actually interacts with the distance between your eyes rods/cones in such a way that a good portion of the information is lost. That's why motion blur is so important in movies. However! Once you get past about 28fps, the wavelength is less than the distance between your visual receptors, so you get a lot more visual information rather than a lot less. This is why motion blur in vidya can look really bizarre, because you're getting enough sensory input to make it unnecessary.

That's the reason why the Hobbit movies look so shitty. They're filmed in 48fps, so viewers can see significantly more visual information than they would in a traditional movie. This means that what they see is quite obviously not a group of hobbits in a forest, but rather a group of actors wearing costumes on a set. They have better visuals, in a sense, but the loss of motion blur makes them look un-movie-like and the extra info makes everything look fake, because everything IS fake. Traditional movies look good because you can't really get that much sensory info, which forces your brain to fill in the gaps, like it does with an impressionist painting. I'm sure someday production values will get to the point where 48fps movies won't look obviously fake, but we aren't there yet.

tl;dr For movies at least, yes, it would make them less enjoyable. But it'd make everyday life MORE enjoyable.

>>50923214
>>50923253
I read a comic on /co/ about that. Flash just learned how to "turn it on", allowing him to consider thousands of possibilities in a fraction of a second, and he gave it for a test drive while he was surrounded by some goons with guns. He spent so much time reveling in his new powers trying to determine the best possible outcome that he ended up getting shot. It taught him that he shouldn't get distracted or play perfectionist when there's lives at stake.

>>50923363
Source? That just seems like a fun scene to read

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>>50923330
Heh, looks like I was talking shit. I knew it was a multiple of 24, I thought it was 48. Thanks for the correction.

>>50923363
There's also the comic where he saves everyone from a burning building. Pic related.

>>50923214
>>50923253
>>50923363
>>50923436
>>50923535
Flash has to consciously turn his powers off, or at least make an effort to process thought at normal speeds. There was a page in a comic (I don't have it on me) where he gets bored/distracted talking to his in-laws and time essentially freezes around him. He can't even watch the TV discreetly because from his point of view, it's moving at a speed of one frame per hour.

>>50923535
The worst part of that is realizing that he still has to physically DO all that shit. I guess it's a good thing he doesn't get tired.

GURPS actually talks about this under the Enhanced Time Sense advantage. I thought it was kind of an interesting view of it.

From memory, it basically says 'yes they can see all the individual frames of a film or brief informational bursts/flashes nobody else can detect, but they can also still ignore/gloss over the details of each passing frame and enjoy the film along with everyone else in the same way that a person reading a book can gloss over/ignore the individual words or fonts even as they are reading them, in favor of immersing in the entertainment.'

>>50921933
This is perhaps one of the most moronic things Cap has ever said, because both in and out of universe it makes utterly no sense.
But what else can you expect from post-08' comics authors? Their entire schtick is failing at capturing anything worthwhile their chosen medium has while the industry fails to adapt to modern market changes and drowns creative in it's own inadequacy and irrelevance.

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>>50923330
The wavelength does not change with fps, it changes with (hell, it IS) the color.

>>50924237
>I guess it's a good thing he doesn't get tired
Or have to obey building codes or get town council building permits.

>>50924361
>This is perhaps one of the most moronic things Cap has ever said, because both in and out of universe it makes utterly no sense.
He's not *that* smart a guy.

And neither are most comic writers. Who the fuck knows what 'seeing faster' is even supposed to mean. This shit is why comic powers are so absurd. They can't just take a good idea and use it, they have to fuck around and make shit up whenever they paint themselves into a corner.

>>50921933
Underground had people with ridiculously high reflexes (and one other stat, but I can't remember what that was) see everything slightly blurred, so in that case yes.

>>50923535
That seems to be a common scene for speedster supers.

https://youtu.be/4LIcOFvWqjk

Captain America "sees faster" because he is a master tactician, as well as has an instinctual reaction time faster than the most streetwise hoodrats.

Captain America is 'peak human.' This is a vague term, but it essentially means, if a human can reach that plateau naturally as a freak of nature, Captain America can do it. Except intelligence for things like science, because that's not his skill set.
He can see more colors than an asian female (women can see more colors than men, asians can see more colors than anyone else, clearer and more detailed). He can lift more weights than a champion power lifter. He can outrun the most extreme of normal humans.

Captain America is super streetwise and can predict you better than a bloodhound. Think of it as a kind of cunning. He can smell the trifling schemer on your skin before you can even sneakily point the gun at him beneath your coat. He's seen it all before. He knows that subtle twitch on your face. He knows the look in those eyes you're intentionally and conspicuously shielding from him.

He 'sees faster' because at this point being able to predict how fast you'll draw the gun, point it and by the model and caliber, imagine where the bullet will be. He knows himself, he knows a little about you based on how you carry yourself, and he knows guns.

We're talking about a man that can react and counteract so quickly that Spider-Man's spidersense gives him a headache trying to keep up with Cap, because while Peter can predict and react, keeping him with him is like fighting a relentless chessmaster playing robot. His Spider-Sense effectively tries to play out a thousand scenarios on how to predict and avoid what's coming, set in a loop, and it's effectively a low grade "Loop until we find a solution" seizure.

That's literally his superhuman power. He can read you like a god damned book and play you like a god damned fiddle.

>>50922193

You, for example, were too ADHD to read the fucking thread before replying.

>>50924576

Comic book writers very often fail at even the most basic concept of physics. Im not talking about knowing how shit works in space or anything complicated like that but simple stuff like "A human body doesnt take getting crushed by a speeding semi-truck very well" or "Batman cant drop an elephant by punching it no matter how good his kung fu is" yet they have examples like that all over the fucking place

A braindead easy justification form Cap would be as easy as saying the SSS upped his reflexes and the speed of his perceptions works at letting note where a bullet is going to go in the time it takes most people to think "Oh shit gun". Now Cap can "dodge" bullets on a human level without actually dodging bullets like fucking Spiderman

>>50924720
>Captain America is 'peak human.' This is a vague term, but it essentially means whatever bullshit the author can come up with
FTFY

>>50924740
>>50924720

Ok calling BS right here.This is the "Punch out an Elephant" variety. Considering Spiderman can dodge bullets sense attacks coming and is actually physically stronger than a Bull Elephant any time they have Cap hanging with Spiiderman is utter bullshit

The only reason this gets justified in peoples heads is because they can imagine a human keeping up with what in story looks like another human despite a stupidly vast difference in strength whereas they cant imagine a regular guy punching an elephant in the face and coming out ok despite the laws of fucking physics the human is a gooey mess. Its the same shit that makes charactcters get hit by say the Thing [90-100 ton strength] but react more to getting stabbed because in our heads "Punch not hurt knife bad"

>>50923535
I remember reading one where Flash saves everyone in fire except a child who dies of smoke inhalation before he could get there, has a break down because he wasn't fast enough and buys everyone in the city a smoke alarm.

At which point I realised Flash is objectively the best DC hero before superpowers even enter into the argument.

>>50924439
Where does, if at all, microwaves fall in the spectrum?

>>50924794
Flash is a great guy

https://youtu.be/lJq2PAI-Fxc

>>50924810
The standard microwave oven is about 2.45 GHz (~12 cm wavelength), which is on the very low end of radar. Radar and microwave are pretty much the same band.

>>50924148

Theres a Flash comic where he is sitting in a movie theater and gets shoot by a sniper in the back of the neck. The thing is just as it touches his skin he simply speeds up assess the situation takes the bullet down so it doesnt hurt anyone else checks the to make sure everyone else is ok runs off tracks the bullet knocks out the sniper takes him to jail and then sits back down at the movie with his date none the wiser

Yet a few years later a shitty writer lets Deathstroke the Sue-anator take him down by hiding his sword under his arm

>>50924837
Thanks.

>>50924858
Isn't Deathstroke pretty much evil Batman? That's the problem when you try to have 'normal' guys compete with realitybenders and near-deities: it depends on bullshit and the supers being utterly retarded for them to remain relevant.

>>50924902

DS is more like a mildly super-human character which is why he could take on the Titans pretty well and not get turned into mush the second Wondergirl decided to hit him. The thing is he was also smart enough to not get into fights with really high powered superhumans which is what they are going for in that comic but fail spectacularly at portraying

>>50922134
There's a few pages of the Flash where he's waiting for subjective hours for someone to finish saying his next word, he's trying to enjoy meal with his family and for him it's like he's sitting watching statues sit at a table for several weeks.

>>50924810
It's in the radio part, 1mm to 1m wavelength..

>>50924816
batman must be jelly, all his attempts seem to drive a bigger gap between his loonies and their well being

>>50925966
Well that's the problem isn't it? Why not have Flash or Superman clean up Gotham, it wouldn't be that much of a task for them.

>>50924794
The Flash is almost always the most moral and mentally balanced member of the Justice League. He's the one whose presence keeps everyone else from getting too weird or heavy.

>>50924816
I have a friend who is bipolar and "You're wearing the suit again/Got me again Flash!" is our accepted code phrase for expressing concern about his mental health. It's hard for him to talk about without feeling anxious, and hard for me to bring up without coming off as accusatory or paternalistic. This dumb joke with the Flash has actually been able to open up a conversation that convinced my friend to get back on his meds when he was in a real bad place. I fucking love the Flash forever.

>>50921933
One of the World of Darkness books mentioned that precise issue in the context of (I think) Vampires and an optional power in Celerity and Auspex. They concluded that you'd get used to it. You'd be able to see every frame in the movie, but you're already able to see every letter in this sentence.

>>50924746
Not really.

Caps is just level 20 human by the standards of comics books. Occasionally the writers will have him wrestle the the hulk and win but the writers wil have to justify how he knew some sort of bullshit kung fu move.

You still won't see him grow adamantine claws or travel backwards and forward in time at a whim

>>50925552
Flash usually can control the speed he sees things. Quicksilver sees everything in slomo

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>>50926841
Well, not exactly, he is outright superhuman in his capabilities from the process he underwent and 'peak human' is just a meaningless term writers use.

And thats only talking about 616 Cap, not the likes of Ultimate Cap or MCU Cap who they don't bother trying to claim as 'only peak human'

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>>50927740
He's talking about Wally. Sometimes when Wally gets bored he unintentionally slips into his powers, which often work on instinct. To Wally boredom is as threatening as being attacked.

>>50924237
It's not so bad. For mundane shit he can just "zone out." It's kind of like how they can digest the entirety of a library but forget it a moment later. The boredom/isolation of doing it fades after it's done into a blurry memory.

>>50923535
That doesm'ty exactly make sense, even if he moves fast building the house would take more time, there's tasks you have to stop and give a minute to complete.

Plus it kind of overlooks all the things he would have had to do to build them fully functional housing and connect it to the rest of the city.

Also how does he lift stuff like girders?

>>50925966
Batman himself is crazy, he's never come to grips with the death of his parents and it instead fuels his costumed crusade.

>>50926037
Plot armor, Batman has it, Joker has it since he is considered Batman's "main nemesis", Gotham has it since its Batman's territory and for some reason none of the stronger heroes are allowed to do anything a about, just a handful of gadget-users, martial-artists and lowest level metas.

>>50924794

There's a great episode of Justice League or Justice League Unlimited where in an alternate universe, Flash died, and that so unhinged Supes that he becomes a power mad tyrant.

Personally, I like all of the main DC heroes Superman is my favorite, but Flash is definitely the heart and soul of what makes them all good.

>>50928913
That plotline on the show wasn't bad, maybe since the whole team developed into the Justice Lords instead of just Superman.

I am so burned out nowadays on terrible "Evil Superman" or "Knockoff Evil Superman" stories, so many badly-written hamfisted pieces of shit based on that cliche.

>>50921933
Yeah, it would make shitty framerates and blur filters even more infuriating than they already are. I wish HFR had caught on. It's unfortunate that the vehicle of its introduction to the general public was the Hobbit movies.

>>50928965

It really is a cheap way to set up a nearly unstoppable foe. I only mentioned it because Flash's death, and that lack of a moral center played a direct role in causing it.

I wish that the DCU would show us this >>50924816 side of the characters (like the time Supes takes Martian Manhunter home for Christmas), but we won't. Instead it'll all be heavy, brooding, wank to differentiate itself from the MCU at the cost of the soul of the property.

I don't even like the MCU - I just want DC movies that aren't afraid of having a plot and consequences, but isn't also afraid of having a little heart or levity.

>>50929105
Well there's the upcoming Lego Batman. That looks pretty fun

>>50928721
>"That doesn't make any sen-"

Speed Force
The answer is always speed force
Yes even for that
Especially that

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>>50926116
You are a hero too. Sticking with a friend that has a mental illness is tough. My wife has bipolar and have had to go through the same things. She's at least gotten to the point where she will take her meds come hell or high water, though I can't take credit for it, her nieces are the ones that really keep her going.

>>50929105
The annoying thing is that there are other DC characters that can be used as some unstoppable force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOFjIRiihXc

Mmm, I'd love to see AMAZO go after Luthor in the cinema.

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>>50929503
Also, what is the deal with AMAZO anyway? I tried to find comics about him, but it turns out the comic variant of AMAZO is nothing like the AMAZO in the DC animation.

I really liked how he's basically some inhuman Dr. Manhattan (there's a joke in there somewhere) with a slight sinister twist.

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>>50928755
>Batman is crazy
It's time to educate yourself on how little you actually know about anything you speak of and then fix it all in one go.

You're welcome.

>>50923330
>They're filmed in 48fps

Hobbit Movies were filmed at 60fps. But you're right about why it and the CGI looks so fucking bad.

>>50929579
Comic Amazo is really just an amazingly powerful guy who fights the Justice League and not much else.
DCAU Amazo ended up being the Silver Surfer, especially evident in that entire episode that was an homage to The Defenders.

>>50929633
>The Defenders.
The what now? Like the Netflix Marvel show thing?

>>50923363

He also has it when he's fighting vandal savage. As he's running to stop him he keeps day dreaming all the possible doomsday scenarios that could occur, such as him unable to help people and losing a load of his speed because the air is toxic and dusty from the devastation.

He has about 300 different day dreams by the time he arrives at a graveyard, presses some buttons and wins the day.###

It was a bit of a hit and miss story.

>>50929649
Different thing entirely.
Forget about it, it's just yet another comic book reference that went over people's head.

>>50929633
Ah, okay. Are there a lot of differences between DCAU and the comics?

I'm European, so I never really bothered reading any American comics outside Spawn, but I did watch various Marvel and DC animated series.

>>50929545
>>50929556
>>50929571
This is a really great run and in his defense Pietro's under a lot of stress here what with people trying to assassinate him and all

>>50929665
Yes, but in several ways the DCAU and many of the better animated adaptions kind of distill some of the best parts of the comics into a more cohesive narrative.
Despite significant differences, that Young Justice show is genuinely more faithful to the comics in terms of character backstories and makes far more direct use of their original origins then the DCAU did, often mixing and matching bits of origins in really clever ways, which is perhaps not that surprising as Weisman actually wrote for DC for several years.
Issue is that by the time Justice League came along they tended to gloss over existing origins and even existing personalities sometimes so that various JL/JLU members would more easily fit certain molds, but they did it in a way that accomplished good storytelling so it's entirely forgivable.

>>50929503
>Luthor can't help to mock AMAZO at the end

Goddamn Luthor is sometimes such a fucking idiot.

>>50924695

Why do the X-Men movies have to be so overall bad, but their Quicksilver is so based? I honestly like this Quicksilver over his comics incarnation.

>>50929760
The key personality trait of Lex Luthor is his overwhelming arrogance and pathologically uncontrollable ego.

>>50921933
It hasn't ruined mine.

>>50929791
Be fair; Quicksilver's "character" in those films is to have a cool scene where retro music plays and he slo-mos through a place. That's about the extent of it.

To answer your question though, Bryan Singer writes ensemble casts by making exactly one or two characters important and then having everyone else just kind of be around and stuff.
This makes him a terrible fucking X-Men writer of course because literally all they ARE is an ensemble cast, but it seems like nobody at Fox will ever let anyone else direct them.

>>50929807
>that one comic where he leads mankind into a golden age
>mankind asks him for his last words on his deathbed
>all he says is "i hate supes!"

You forgot his hatred for Superman.

>>50928965

I actually really like how they handled the not!superman (Legacy) and his evil version (Iron Legacy) in the Sentinels of the Multiverse game.

A lot of the cards in Iron Legacy's villain deck are god damn tragic without ever stepping into trying to justify his actions as anything but horrible.

>>50929868
His hatred of Superman directly ties back into his ego.
He only hates Superman BECAUSE of his ego; Clark never even really did anything to him that a crazed mind might use as a justification for his hatred, Superman is just bigger and more powerful then him and most importantly takes attention away from him and so Lex hates him.

His hatred for Superman is incredibly petty at heart because he's never done anything to JUSTIFY the hatred, but Lex hates him just for BEING there.

>>50929926
But does he hate Superman as much as Black Manta hates Aquaman.

>>50929988
Of course not. NOBODY hates anybody the way Black Manta hates Aquaman.
Lex Luthor and the Joker WISHED they could hate as much as Black Manta hates.

He's got this kind of Ur-Hate that superscedes all other forms of hate.

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>>50929988
Who's this Black Manta? Sorry, I don't really know comics. Why does he hate Aquaman and why is his hatred so strong?

>>50929926
Lex in Red Son was pretty grand.

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>>50929908
Sentinels of the Multiverse is a good game, and its lore is very interesting as well.

Play the digital version alot, its a godsend in terms of bookkeeping during play.

>>50930083
He's some black dude that has taken the role of Nemesis to the King of Atlantis, no actual reason but he engineers overly-dramatic backstories for his hatred that change on a regular basis.

His whole reason to existence is to make Aquaman's life more unpleasant, nothing else is more important to him.

>>50930129
How does the digital version handle simultaneous triggers?
Is it in timestamp order, or do you choose?

>>50930252

The players get to pick order. Which is also what it does when it runs into 'Whack the guy with the highest HP' and two people are the same. Players get to decide.

>>50922067

This is why 'cinematic' 24fps would have to be replaced by 60 fps. For more PC Master Race, please visit >>>/v/

>>50929661
Gosh, you're so cool and smart~
I wish I had your darkly detached ambivalence and ruggedness.

>>50929908
Which is your favorite variant of Legacy?

>>50930287
Sometimes it does this. Start Of Turn effects are explicitly timestamp order.

>>50929492
HA, you're married to someone who won't even attempt to be a functioning person on your behalf.

>>50929579
AMAZO is a series of robots, that as a trend are driven by two things. A: Adapting to powers based on the Justice League. B: Hating the Justice League.

B has been subverted sometimes. A is the primary.

There have been many Amazos.

>>50932858

Next Legacy.

She's very reliable, when the other two can sometimes have trouble laying out damage when you need to chip away at something.

>>50933191
I'd say America's Newest Legacy might be better for smaller teams, where her personal damage output is important, but in a full five-hero game her dad's damage buff to the whole team is likely even stronger.

And as For America's Greatest Legacy, his ability to give another hero a chance to use a power as well as healing them 1HP can be pretty ridiculous, but it depends on what other heroes are in play.

Wish the video game let you use multiple variants of the same hero at once, could be extremely fun for a muckabout

>>50930129
Is that Gygax in the bottom left?

>>50929587
That image does nothing to disprove Batman's insanity.

>>50934482
The point is that the character is decided by the writer.

Miller craycray batman is my batman but decades of other iterations of batman are, frankly, perfectly sane.

>>50934522
I like to think that Batman's superpower is some kind of "yes, I know I'm batshit insane, pun intended" insanity awareness moreso than him being really smart.

When bad shit goes down, he loses control and actually goes crazy but normally he is able to control his insanity.

>>50922193

Where did you hear this? I've always felt like this but never considered ADHD.

>>50934802
Probably a shitty self-diagnosis website for people who wish they had Assburgers or ADHD so they can feel special.

>>50924695
>he even saved the goldfishes

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>>50934245
Nah its a superhero known as 'The Scholar', he's an Alchemist who wields the Philosopher's Stone.

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>>50921996
There's an easy fix for this.

It's pic related.

No.

>>50934963
>>50934245
Also shamelessly inspired by The Dude from The Big Lebowski

>a fucking attosecond

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>>50929556
>Good suit
>Look down
WHAT ARE THOSE!?

>>50934802
I recall an NPR program mentioning a mentally-ill woman in treatment spoke way too fast, got bored hearing normal speech speeds, and had extraordinary reaction times. Also a few articles over the years in reputable sources (NYTimes, BBC), and occasionally I do see people report similar issues on forums for attention disorders.

I don't think it's always ADHD, but people do seem to think at different speeds. I wish I could tell you more, but I know very little about it myself. Maybe you could research for some answers.

>>50935602
It was the 90s, we don't talk about that kinda thing.

>>50935630
I had problems stuttering because I had ADHD I spoke too fast for people. My mouth was ten words behind my my train of thought. Nothing exactly superhuman about it. It can annoy most people when you speak that fast. I would say in my case it was more of I can't stop thinking or I had to keep moving from Point A to Point B no stops.

In a Shadowrun-like setting I made once there's two "types" of super speed, though the speed wasn't nearly on par with Cape comics characters, it's enough that characters with a high enough degree of it could block bullets with a sword or other weapon.

One type is similar to the OP, where the person in question's focus and heart rate skyrocket using the settings magic as a catalyst. The result is them seeing the world moving at a snails pace, allowing them to see and react to things inhumanly fast. People with this had incredible reaction speeds, faster even than should be physically possible when accounting for the speed of nerve signals, and with signifigant training and magitech therapy they could move their limbs at incredible speeds- though things like running in this state were incredibly dangerous since if you move your arm fast enough to block a bullet and nick a wall you could lose a hand.

The other is essential 100% reflexive. People with this ability, and given mechanical magitech limbs, could block even automatic weapon fire- however they would barely even register in their mind what they were doing, it's 100% subconscious, and breaks the laws of physics with how fast they react- their reaction time essentially being a flat 0.

Each ability had different strong points and weak points. Focus is better for ranged combat and instinct turns you into a fucking walking blender.

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>>50924148
You sure that's Flash you're thinking about?
Last I saw, Flash activates his powers, but Quicksilver has those problems because he can't turn his off.

>>50935602
When you move as fast and as often as Pietro, it pays to wear shoes that can handle that kind of strain

Dress shoes can not handle that kind of strain

>>50924720

>>50921933
Cap doesn't actually 'see' faster, that would be impossible. His body is
1. responding to incoming information faster and

2. he is subconsciously running calculations in his head (because people forget the serum made him a fucking genius, at least in the kinesic and physical sense) that lead to highly accurate predictive reactions that occur BEFORE the bullet is actually fired.

So he's not dodging the bullet, he's guessing you're going to shoot him and has started dodging before you do it.

>>50924361
>>50924576
What I got from it is he doesn't really understand it, it's just an unconscious reaction. He knows someone is going to shoot him and moves

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>>50929587
>They brought up Batman Oddyssey

>>50936004
I was referring to this: >>50928496

It's more like the problem everyone has where time slows down when you're bored, but for the Flash who can process time at a rate of attoseconds, that becomes a genuinely huge problem.

>>50934482
No, but it disproves it or proves it based on entirely who's writing because literally none of these characters have set personality traits, what with having been written by dozens of authors over the years.
>>50936136
It was me who posted that screencap (surprised anyone did), and I felt compelled to add in the one universe where literally everything that happened was completely fucking schizo bugnuts.

>>50930225

He even quit and became an honest purveyor of saltwater taffy when Aquaman died, but as soon as he saw Aquaman was alive, he killed everyone in his shop and immediately began plottinf aginst Aquaman.

>>50926037
>Why does Gotham suck?
It's presented as a lot of reasons, when people bring it up. Sometimes it's portrayed with the villains like The Joker being soooooo horrible that only Batman can supposedly handle them. Because he'll do something like what he did in Injustice (never played it), tricking Supes into killing lois, and destroying Metropolis.

>>50935602
>>50935739
>tfw if the young x-men movies were set in the 90's you'd see Quicksilver pumping up his sneakers before he starts running

>>50926037
I like the idea that Gotham is some kind of evil force that cannot be defeated. Only contained. And only an insane hero can stop the insanity that Gotham generates.

>>50941779
You could just demolish it, or send in the high-tier supernatural heroes who fight off elder gods for a living.

>>50941963
Oh yeah, buldozering the city. You clearly never watched any horror movies about building things on ancient buldozered graveyards.

And I doubt the high-tier supernatural heroes would bother fixing a tiny city on a tiny planet in the middle of galactic nowhere when there are far more important things to do.

>>50941981
Some of them literally live on Earth

>>50941981
>DC Universe
>Any planet more important than Earth

>>50942015
Oh right. I forgot. DC is fucking retarded.

I would have liked it better if Earth was just another planet among many, with the only standout feature being that it has an orphan from a lost and powerful extinct civilization.

>>50942003
Yeah, but most of them are friends with Batman. Or would just destroy the Earth entirely.

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>>50930129
Looking forward to the conflict with OBLIVAEON?

>>50926037
Supergirl tried once. She spent twenty-four hours doing nothing but stopping crime all across the city, moving at superspeed so nobody could actually see her doing it.

Gotham is a fucking hellhole.

>>50942117
Bah, its not even the worst of the cities in DC America, its a fuckin choir boy compared to Hub City

What about if the person is a super-speedster but the mechanics of it are temporal-based, as in they alter the relative effect of time so while they move normally it appears to the rest of the universe as if they are moving super fast?

On one hand they might be able to avoid many of the issues heroes like the Flash and Quicksilver face, but then they would have issues of their own such as in the long-term the more they use their power the 'faster' they are aging relative to everyone else.

>>50922067
The Flash has commented on this a few times, has referred to it as similar to not focusing on the pages of a book while reading a story.
GURPS Enhanced Time Sense treats it similarly, they not that you are aware of refresh rate and such, but can ignore that enough to enjoy shows.

>>50942722
*note, not not.
Though it could be fun to have characters that are bothered by it, even if they could try to live with it.

>>50924546
At the library he also read a number of books in civic law, went to city hall and created all the necessary forms (by hand, machines wouldn't work fast enough), pushed people's hand to stamp them properly, and filed them away appropriately before anyone noticed anything more than a whoosh of the wind.

>>50942073
>fat tumblr whore aiming a bow while literal gods stand resolute
what the shit

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>>50942932
Archer heroes are a staple of comicbooks.

Her actual power is basically super-autism, like Rainman x100, that she contracted from trying to examine something cosmic. She can see the weakpoints in objects and analyse the outcome of events.

For the Oblivion Event she ends up being affected while trying to analyse the power detected from the upcoming villain by a surveillance satellite which transforms her, now even less personable and able to just throw her arrows with impossible accuracy and superhuman speed.

>>50943012
Its obviously Pose Dramatically time, and she's the retard who thinks now is the time to brandish her katana and threaten anyone who challenges her power level.

And she's still a fat black chick who never knew a day of self-care in her life, so obvious pandering to the SJWs.

>>50943037
Is your special power also super-autism?

>>50923139
Ever heard of a hypothetical?

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>>50943037
>And she's still a fat black chick who never knew a day of self-care in her life, so obvious pandering to the SJWs.
The thicc is strong with this one, but I don't see the fat or how this is SJW.

People like you constantly crying wolf about the SJW bogeyman cheapen the outrage when it really does happen.

>>50924720
He has peak human intelligence according to his origin, writers are just hacks.

>>50943117
I'm sorry, maybe my Diversity Threshold isn't high enough to just open-arms embrace some sassy black PoC(more like pos) minority (who knowing what they did with Flash is probably gay too) who openly stands out in group pics, defies the tone of the setting, and doesn't appear to do anything but checkboxes for tumblrinas who watch Arrow

>>50926037
Flash would need to constantly drag back the villains to Arkham and odds are his good nature would eventually cost him dearly in such a shitty city.

Batman is making a sacrifice by doing what he does, altough he likely enjoys it.

>>50943284
Are you one of those newfag comics readers who think ALL of Batman's rogues to to Arkham or something?

>>50943302
Maybe he's one of those oldfag readers who constantly sees group shots of them all at Arkham because COMIC WRITERS DON'T CARE.

>>50938455
>Sometimes it's portrayed with the villains like The Joker being soooooo horrible that only Batman can supposedly handle them.

It made more sense back before '98 when comics featuring The World's Greatest Detective involved actual fucking detective work, but that doesn't really happen anymore.

>>50943302
Well there's blackgate and that other shithole.
Arkham is the most famous so to make a point is it wrong to use it?

You sound like some elitist /co/fag looking for shit to get mad over.

>>50943195
Congratulations, you don't like thing. Do you want a medal or something, Captain Autism?

>>50943344
The A stands for Autism.

>>50943319
Fair point.
God the industry is in a shitty state these days, it's rather sad honestly.
>>50943334
Nah, I'm past being mad about content.
And I don't mean newfag disrespectfully; clearly modern comics are written only with a newer audience that's unfamiliar with the characters much in mind, though that isn't saying much these days I suppose.

>>50943351
I might've misinterpreted your post to be more hostile due to my own preconceptions based on certain batfans of /co/. My bad.

>>50943195
I know nothing about the character, so I'm not sure exactly what I'm defending here, but are they in fact a Sassy Black Woman™? The sin of standing out in a group picture seems a bit of a stretch. So what? Maybe the artist really likes that character? This game is an entirely self-contained setting. I don't know how a character can go "against" that since they are a part of making the setting what it is.

I mean, I suppose it's entirely possible the character is black because they felt the whole cast was too white or some other /pol/ conspiracy but it really seems like you are zeroing in on the character because and only because they check all your boxes.

>probably gay too
See, this is what I'm talking about right here. The basic shitty premise of social justicing is assholes going around ranting about how unfair it is to assume that everyone is white, male, straight, not-transexual, what have you and the accompanying terrible conclusion that there must be more non-white, non-male, non-straight, gender noncomformist people everywhere and in all things or else those things are bad.

So I ask you, how is it any better to go around assuming (based on no evidence) that a given fictional character is gay with the unspoken conclusion I'm sure that we must have more straight characters to correct this horrible plague of THE GAYS. If there were a term for some sort of /pol/-Justice-Warrior it would apply to you.

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Well HEY!

Since this thread about superspeed has taken an off turn how about-

The Speedster on the hero team is a guy in a wheelchair.

His hero name can be wheelz.

Could you make it work?

Still no where as fucked up as the Doozybot cartoon where they made the one in the wheelchair a Guntank

Man Kid-Vid was the COOLEST!

>>50943746
Just put him in the Mach 5 of wheelchairs, jump jacks and everything, and have him Initial D all over the damn place.

>>50943798
Would his chair blast Eurobeat as he drifts and boosts?

>>50943882
Could we have it any other what?

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>>50935288
The Scholar abides.

>>50943746
His brand of superspeed also lets his equipment go at superspeed too. That would include the wheelchair he's sitting on.

>>50943195

>who knowing what they did with Flash is probably gay too

Nah, Tachyon is married.

>>50936019
And still Taskmaster can kick his ass any day.

>>50942117
>Supergirl tried once. She spent twenty-four hours doing nothing but stopping crime all across the city, moving at superspeed so nobody could actually see her doing it.
Link or issue name? I would love to read this.

My favorite Gotham stories are the ones where the out-of-town heroes visit.

>>50942932
Time for your nappies

>>50945853
Aren't those just usually blatant hamfisted batwank?

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Batman is a pussy.

>>50947038
I really appreciate how there's no bat motif in his design here, but he's still so obviously Batman.
Do you know who designed this iteration?

>>50947117
Apparently Dwayne McDuffie & Ed Benes are his creators going by this wiki.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Bruce_Wayne_(Anansi_Timeline)

It also shows images of him with a less awesome design where he actually has a giant bat on his chest for no reason, but that's comicbooks...

>>50947216
Thank you, anon.
Off hand, have these guys done any other decent work?

>>50924720
I never got the master tactician/martial artist/athlete thing, he's been frozen for the majority of his life and only had like four or five years of WW2

>>50947799
Part of being modified into the perfect man is him being able to Git Gud really quickly. And for athleticism it helps alot when you are in super shape.

>>50935602
Slavs gonna slav