What would be the psychological stress to fight demons, eldritch

Pretty severe. Depending on the setting it can be utterly terrifying(Berserk, for instance), or so spiritually jarring that you yourself will be corrupted unless you have enough willpower to actively resist it the entire time(Warhammer 40k). Or you might survive it but go insane because your human mind had to wrap itself around something beyond human understanding in order to defeat it(Lovecraft).

>>50915889

That depends really. Do they have some form of mind fuckery abilities? Because unless they can influence your mind directly i don't think it would actually be that bad, at least not any more than fighting anything else. It might actually be less of a strain mentally since they are clearly evil and you don't have to worry about guilt at all.

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>>50915889

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>>50915889
Gee I don't know
....
What do you think Guts?

Something no Human could realistically handle.

We always talk shit about stuff not being scary but if you saw a lowly reanimated Skeleton/Corpse in real life 100% of Humans would shit their pants and become catatonic with dread. Not even speaking of Daemons.

>>50916374
98%
I bet some people can handle the shock

>>50915889
Your pic is a pretty good example of the end result.

Take the stress that soldiers that sit in a warzone of years.

Then put the stress from untreated mental illnesses on top of that.

After all, people with severe mental illnesses are familiar with how much things like hearing voices, hallucinations, etc. fuck up your life.

Because that's what fighting demons for years will be like. Stress from fighting. And stress from things that should not be.

>>50916374

You have nothing to back up your post. You wouldn't just go catatonic. Realistically you'd kick into fight or flight.

>>50916523
You still probably would go catatonic after the adrenaline from fight or flight had subsided.

Walked into an armed robbery in a store, staring down the barrel of a gun. I just stood there like a sack of potatoes - didn't do shit, didn't say shit until the cops arrived.

And that was just some redneck shits with guns. Not even really scary beyond the firearms.

>>50915943
Frankly, they don't need when we can just go into seizures after observing a pattern of light.

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>>50916523
Most likely flight since people lose their shit over noises in a dark house. Have you ever seen those scare videos? At best a person punch's someone scaring them before running.
>Now imagine this comes around the corner.

>>50916847
What is it?

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>>50916886
No idea and that's what makes it scary.

>>50916914
post moar these are neat

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>>50916923
I don't have a lot left but I can post a few before bed.

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>>50917050
and i'm done for now.

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>>50916784
>>50916443

I disagree, humans are far more sturdy than you imagine.

One of the main horrors from war is that you're killing other people, humans have an incredible capacity for empathy, the fact that a soldier knows he's killing other living, breathing schlubs like him.
And why it was easier to murder a cunt in the past, since it wasn't a fellow schlub you were murdering, it was that bastard from the next village over, who is probably planning to rape your fields, burn your women and kill then houses, the goat fucking bastard.

People didn't get fucked up over hunting Mammoths, or Tigers, they get fucked up over fighting other people and fighting the living embodiment of evil itself, which is so foul that even its ball sweat taints the earth, so nay'er more will flowers grow 'pon spots it trickles down on would be something people wouldn't torment themselves over on an emotional level.
It is very difficult to dehumanize another human being.
It is very, very difficult to humanize the inhuman in such a way that people feel guilty over what they do to it.

>>50917219
>It is very difficult to dehumanize another human being.

I think you're overestimating the human capacity for empathy. We've been genociding the fuck out of each other over personal taste in self-help books for millennia, and most of us have slept like babies.

Though I guess that just supports your overall point that adventurers probably wouldn't be all that fucked up.

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>>50917219
>It is very difficult to dehumanize another human being.

Disagree wholeheartedly.

See: SJWs.

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>>50915889
We're doing fine.

>>50917450
>Jester singing Eye of the Tiger
Love it

>>50917359
>>50917424
Alright, correction, its easy to dehumanize other human beings as concepts.
It is however difficult to be handed a weapon and told 'kill this fucker', SJWs are all talk, if you put one in a room with a rich old white guy and a cricket bat, nothing would happen.
Even the ones that say kill all white men.

>>50917424

Fairly certain that's infrahumanization actually. But you are correct in that we do dehumanize other groups. Doesn't mean he's not right. Even if you dehumanize someone it's still more emotionally draining to kill them than say a chicken.

>>50916784
>i'm an untrained average joe moron
>walked into an armed robbery and to the absolute surprise of no one i froze up
>therefore all people are like me and will freeze up in a dangerous situation

>>50917555
dehumanization is easy as fuck
the military has it down to a science

>>50917672
They have it down to a science and PTSD is still a big thing, that's my point.
You ever hear of anyone getting PTSD from killing a moose? After all, Moose are bigger than humans, can be nasty as fuck and dangerous as all shit.

But they're not human.
Demons would come under the same category. It'd be easier to face an actual, physical demon than another person, because they're not people, never have been people, never will be people, you're entirely justified in doing whatever you damn well fancy to a demon.
You don't need to dehumanize them, because they're not human and so one of the main sources of trauma (second only to seeing shit happen to people on your side) is gone.

>>50917672
Easy for a short time, but eventually the PTSD kicks in

>>50916374
Jesus why do people think everyone is so fragile. Seeing a zombie is about .00001% as scary as say, a WW2 firefight. Its difficult to understand or rationalize, but it simply isnt that threatening and literally everyone who has seen movies is familiar with the concept.

>>50915889
Being unable to reproduce with normal females out of fear they might be Succubi, reseeing images of women taking the Demonic D, and etc.

Being able to get an erection from slaying Demons and seeing justice done.

This is why we have Paladin Sexual Helplines.

>>50915889
Your sentence structure is awful.
And given that "demons" and "eldritch abominations" encapsulate so many different kinds of monsters and ideas that the terms are meaningless these days you're going to have to narrow down what you're on about to something more concrete, because right now I could give literally any answer and it would be correct.

>>50917450
Does he actually say this when you camp? Do I really have another reason to take a Jester out with the party?

>>50918950
Everybody is riding that lovecraft dick yo

>>50919218
It IS easier for some slobs to just tell someone "you are crazy now" or "now you are insane" rather then develop actual writing skills I suppose.

>>50916410

Lindybeige?

>>50916374
Bullshit, if you can handle an acid trip, you can handle a demon. If people can survive a thumbprint of LSD, humans can handle one bitch ass demon

>sees a demon
>doesn't immediately go RIP AND TEAR on its ass with the closest shotgun
You're just a low-t pussy and probably a hillary voter.

>Anon you must kill the demons
>y tho
>because they wanna kill you, now use this and that
>k

You just adapt and learn to kill demons because you have an intrinsic survival instinct. It just becomes nothing more than merely another step to your survival. If you see something alien and your first instinct isn't "is there a way to kill/fuck this thing?" then you're a pussy.

>>50916886
It's by Keith Tompson I think, it's an amalgamation of dead things from Chernobyl come back to life

>>50919462

Bugfucker sighted.

Keep raging. We need frontliners like you while the real driving forces of civilization harness the suffering you feed demons with to power our spacecraft. Your pride and subsequent agony fills our gas tank.

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>You will never be a badass Witch Hunter and be so stern and cold that you kill without hesitation

Why even live senpai

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>Premature aging due to being in demonic presence draining life energy
>Lingering depression from demonic energy
>Burns without having touched flames
>Sympathy for evil behavior

>>50920523
If you raise a child right they could be.

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>>50920494
>suffering
>when I'm killing demons
The only suffering I'll have is from my dick getting too hard

>>50915889
humans are built to adapt to various stresses. if fighting demons for a while, people would grow acclimated to the horrors. the trouble though is de-acclimating. that's why people come home with PTSD from warzones. they've adapted to the battlefield, but now those instincts are no longer necessary in a peaceful environment, and you see them in a different light.

so people would ultimately be fine fighting demons and abominations and seeing the most horrific horrors daily. but if you try to bring them back to a peaceful idyllic village, their new instincts are going to cause them a lot of problems

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>>50919068
It's one of his camping skills. It's literally called Tiger's Eye.

>>50919347
Kek'd

Since the demons would touch the minds of the soldiers a variety of impossible realities from different planes would coalesce in the mind like a cancer. You could have it be so severe that holy magic gives them migraines because of the taint in their heads. Also you could have demon war 1 be over and there are pockets of demons popping up from vets who blew their brains out, freeing the tiny demon babies inside.

On the topic of Demons and fighting them, can a Christfag please school me in why the Morning Star and his 1/3 of all the Host of Heaven were defeated and cast down, rather than killed/destroyed/annihilated/unmade?

>>50923021
I don't even know, but I think it was some shit about them not having physical form, so they technically can't be destroyed or some shit. That or some thing the G-man said about never destroying them.

>>50917359
That's only partially true. The folks doing the more hands-on parts of the genocide have always suffered more than the folks rationalizing it from on high.

>>50916998
She seems nice.

>>50918030

And PTSD is treatable if the soldiers go in for treatment. I sat there as a doc got up and explained to us that if we actually got treatment PTSD is managable. It's just most soldiers don't want to admit weakness due to social taboos and try to self medicate with alcohol instead. If you just admit it and go in for treatment early on they actually have a very good track record for treating it. Also, a large portion of PTSD is not about killing people, its about the prolonged periods of combat stress and their effects on the body.

>>50923154
>>50922259

I believe the myth stated that it was because Yahweh foretold that they would be defeated at the end of time taking all of mankind to heaven and leaving them in the empty universe eternally outside of his presence, and considering they were cast down to earth and not hell it's really odd people think Lucifer is lord of hell, also something about Yahweh and forgiveness it's really all a contradictory mess.

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>>50923396
Definetly a redshirt whose going to be brutally killed off soon.

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>>50923370
>It's just most soldiers don't want to admit weakness due to social taboos
There's legal repercussions too. I've got two lgs buddies who've expressed interest in getting help, but haven't for different reasons. One of them WILL lose custody of his son if he seeks treatment. He already barely won it, and his ex will absolutely appeal if he's mentally adjudicated. Considering that being there for his kid is about the only thing that keeps him stable, getting help would ruin him. The other has about 20k in guns he'd rather not lose, including his grandfather's heirloom WWII bringbacks.

>>50923485

Well yeah but the doc isn't there to tell you about the legal troubles you are gonna have when you get back. The doc is there to tell you about how great treatment is and that you don't need to worry about ptsd if your not a dumb ass.

>>50916886
A mistwraith

>>50923485
Both of those friends can get help without legal trouble there is this thing called Doctor-Patient privilege for a reason. as long as the ex doesn't find out one will be fine, and the second unless the states laws state that he can't have guns with PTSD, he can get help as well.

Imagine spending years fighting monsters. Now imagine trying to spend time with your family and wondering if that weird thing they did is just a thing they developed while you were gone or a giveaway that a being from beyond space and time is wearing them as a skinsuit and will kill you in your sleep.

>>50923683
They have a disorder for that.

What if the knight was from a now deceased single mother, and worked at a call center?

Are the monsters we create stronger than the monsters nature creates?

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>>50915889
It depends.

How big is it? Can you kick one to death if you get the drop on it, but risk getting overwhelmed by five of them at the end of a hallway? Or do they tower over an average man and shrug off small arms like paintballs?

Does it look like something out of your average monster manual, or is it a distorted mockery of ordinary biological structures? Is it a simple beast that acts on instinct and hunger, or is it intelligent and cruel in its actions?

How widespread are they? Are you going to see one solitary demon in your whole life and have the occasional nightmare, or are they a global pandemic? Can they reproduce? Do they parasitize humans to do so?

Does it communicate? Does it think? Is it something we can understand? Is it something we can predict?

Are we talking beefy dog-sized fuckers that run around mindlessly tearing faces off when they get in someone's pet door? Or slender, man-sized aberrations that hover silently in front of you for a few seconds before taking your hand as a trophy? Or monstrosities the size of a football stadium that float slowly over the horizon, spraying mutagenic mist that causes cancerous tumors to burst forth from its victims and form mushroom-like networks across the city?

How well trained are the humans? Are they suburban teenagers, a local peasant militia, a well-trained army unit? Have they encountered the supernatural before? How often? Too often to not be paranoid? Have they watched their friends die? Be tortured? Be eaten alive?

Can we kill it? If not, can we stop it? If not, can we avoid it? If not, can we flee it? If not, can we survive it?

Basically, the bigger, tougher, more dangerous, more sadistic, more numerous, more incomprehensible, and further from "normal" they are, as well as the less equipped the person is to deal with this shit, the more damaging it should be to the psyche. PTSD, paranoia, panic attacks, depression, acute psychotic episodes, and dissociation are all good consequences.

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>>50919011
BUT WHAT IF IF'S A SUCCUBUS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LINE?!?!


ARE YOU A DEMON?!

ARE YOU TRYING TO LURE ME INTO A FALSE SENSE OF TRUST WITH THIS HELPLINE?!

>>50915889
Stress? None
You would just get called edgy

>>50917219
>>50918030
Wow, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
You don't need to kill other humans to get ptsd, people get it from things like car accidents, it's really any sufficiently stressful situation and that threshold varies in a way that we don't yet understand with little connection to cultural concepts of "strength" and "weakness".

If faced with an actual demon some people might go catatonic. Not everyone, but people do in fact do that in real life in horrible disasters and accidents and terrifying situations. Heck, there's that guy who had a heart attack when a lion jumped in their car and dragged out the person they were with.

>>50922001
Wew, you're retarded.
PTSD is not being "adapted to the battlefield". Aside from the fact that it can be caused by things other than battlefields, it hampers people and their functionality and can trigger them to freak out with unreasonable reactions and even delusions, it's hardly the honed useful battlefield "instincts" that you imagine.

>>50927301
>You don't need to kill other humans to get ptsd, people get it from things like car accidents, it's really any sufficiently stressful situation and that threshold varies in a way that we don't yet understand with little connection to cultural concepts of "strength" and "weakness".

Exactly. PTSD has nothing to do with killing other people. Mental problems that arise from killing other people turn into guilt complexes.

PTSD is what happens when you're in an extreme state of fear for your own life for a very long time.

>>50927343
>PTSD is what happens when you're in an extreme state of fear for your own life for a very long time.

And having to deal with invisible enemies that may or may not around you right at this moment, that may or may not be possessing your neighbours, friends and family right now, that may or may not be possessing YOU right now...

That will FUCK you up. At least a soldier during the Iraq insurgency would know there are no IED's and no ambushes in the US army base. When you fight demons, NO PLACE is safe. You will be in a warzone 24/7, 30/31 days a month, 12 months a year.

>>50927343
>PTSD is what happens when you're in an extreme state of fear for your own life for a very long time.
Or a very short but traumatic time.
We really don't understand the underlying mechanisms at this point and are just focused on our best attempts at treatment.

>>50915889
After you kill one it should be relatively alright.

>>50927382
Yes. That's true.

But all evidence points to PTSD being an absolute certainty when you put a soldier in a modern battlefield.

Every soldier will develop PTSD. The only difference between soldiers will be how fast or slow they develop it (will it be months, years or decades?) and how bad the symptoms will be.

Because the symptoms range from relative mild events like crying like a baby while drinking at the pub with friends to killing off your entire family in a psychotic breakdown.

>>50927409
Well, war is hell.
So hell would be double-hell, maybe, I guess, or maybe double-war?

>>50918030
Tell me the average person would come out of fighting necromorphs IRL totally fine.

>>50918030
You fucking retard, PTSD isn't caused by killing people.

It is caused by constant fear of losing your life for a long and/or intensive period of time.

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>>50916224
How difficult do you think it would be to kill an apostle from an emotional point of view?

Apostles are basically demons that were once human after all, could you bring yourself to kill a non-hostile apostle that was just doing whatever?

>>50917672
>the military has it down to a science
Which is why I do not show any sympathy to soldiers. If you don't see people in other lands as human, I don't have to see you as human.

Might as well off yourself once you're done.

>>50927932
I tell you, it'd be a hell of a lot easier than killing a regular human who didn't also happen to be a fucking demon.

>>50927989

You can go fuck yourself. Just fucking kill yourself you self righteous hypocritical piece of shit.

>>50927932
>non-hostile apostle
Do we forget how they became apostles in the first place?

They're each guilty of something terrible. Sure, Christ forgives, but Christ doesn't exist in that setting.

>>50928023
No it wouldn't be. Because humans are a lot easier to kill than demons.

>>50928073
And that difficulty in how to kill demons, automatically feeds back into the mental illnesses you'll acquire hunting them.

The more difficult the task, the longer you'll be in fear of your life. Which gives you more stress, which heightens the chances of acquiring PTSD, which in turn makes you even more susceptible to more mental illnesses.

>>50927932
>Apostles are basically demons that were once human after all, could you bring yourself to kill a non-hostile apostle that was just doing whatever?
Their whatever is always, always something terrible.

Apostles really are a bad example for fighting demons, since they're physical entities that act more like how vampires and werewolves in stories work.

Demon hunting is typically shown to be all about chasing invisible entities and trying to convince others that you're actually trying to hunt demons and you don't just tie up and torture innocent people.

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Depends on the enemy really

Fighting something like orcs or elves? You wouldn't bat an eye, just aim and shoot and watch them fall. Get some therapy if you need it but other than that no problem

Fighting something like liches and the undead? I can see how some people would be shaken up a bit and need some time to recover, maybe a few suicides here or there due to the sheer horror factor.

Fighting something like Stereotypical demons? That is to say hoofed and horns red skin and tridents? Probably worse than killing elves but not as bad as killing undead, since most people are already pretty much accustomed to the thought that demons need to go to hell anyway.

Now, if we're talking about something that infringes on our physical instincts of fear, something like necromorphs from dead space or apostles from berserk, I think that's where people end up massively fucked up in the head. These are things that go beyond our emotional state and social ideals. From an instinctual point of view these things are fucked up and scary.

Then you enter eldritch things which explicitly state that just looking at them will fuck you up.

>>50928204
Apostles revert back to their human form whenever they die, this often leaves gutts standing in the center of carnage and townspeople and guards screaming bloody mary while he tries to explain/get away.

In fact Guts even had to kill a crowd of kids and then vomited after taking a little girl hostage so he could escape from angry townspeople.

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>>50928204
>Demon hunting is typically shown to be all about chasing invisible entities and trying to convince others that you're actually trying to hunt demons and you don't just tie up and torture innocent people.
Not really.

>>50928069
And usually sacrificed something truly important to them to become the awful monsters they are.

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It's a rough job, but someone's gotta do it.

>>50916374
I bet you're the guy who got bullied a lot and was too scared to break your bully's teeth.

>>50928286
Have you ever read classic horror literature or seen any classic horror cinema?

>posts some lowest common denominator cashgrab AAA shite game art

Good call bud, good call.

>>50928383
>classic literature/film
>typical
lowest common denominator is typical. No one reads anymore, everyone has bad taste, deal with it

>>50928307
Aye, and it was almost always a fucking person.

What if it all went to shit, /tg/, and all the portals opened up.

What kind of defences would we have? What kind of guns and weapons would be useful against abominations?

Please feed my occultboner

>>50928421
You do realise that there's a huge amount of fantastical fiction that has been produced before big budget cocksucking suit-goons discovered that teen nerds with too much money were a viable target for trash fantasy?

Do you even know how many stories about demons and demon hunters exist?

>>50928460
Nothing.

Just pray to the horrors, and hope you'll be eaten first.

>>50915889
>eldritch abomination
Fucking nonsense. "Ooh tentacles and other fish/plant-like qualities, how truly fucking terrifying!"

Lovecraftian shit is only scary if you're some faggot Christcuck who lived in the 20s.

>>50928486
No you retard. The real stress from fighting eldritch abominations is that you cannot fight them.

They are smarter than you, wiser than you, stronger than you, faster than you, have better technology, and they have achieved a superior state of being, from immortality all the way to invincibility.

Whatever you do, you cannot harm them. And they can harm you.

The horror does not lie in what they are, the horror lies in the futility of your actions.

You fucking retarded HFY faggot.

>>50928470
And there is a coating of shit people actually consume on top it. Trash fantasy is what is common now. The fact that once upon a time this wasn't the case doesn't change things. This is what is typical now.

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>>50915889
You gain Insight

>>50928520
It's not so much they're better than you, it's that hey don't operate like you, or in a way that can conceivably relate to you. You are incompatible, and simply being around it produces blue screens and disk read errors in your brain. Better doesn't even factor in

>>50928522
Yeah, okay okay okay. I admit defeat.

I should have said "classic horror" instead of typical horror.

Are you satisfied? You fucking wanker, I'm going to /x/ right now and I'm gonna get a tutorial on how to curse your fucking ass.

>>50928520
Wrong. Most Lovecraftian antagonists are just aliens, who have a quite comparable level of technology and intellect. Even the ooky pooky 'gods' of Lovecraftland are just sea creatures and plant monsters. Yes, they sometimes have lots of power, but powerful things aren't intrinsically scary. The Kike God also has supposedly infinite power and wisdom, but he is not scary.

Looking at some spaghetti monster who doesn't give a shit about humans should not drive you insane - it would not, even. Only the truly Christcucked and similarly delusional would be upset by the existence of advanced ETI, regardless if it's some noodly sponge creature or a spiky plant man.

>>50916374
>if you saw a lowly reanimated Skeleton/Corpse in real life 100% of Humans would shit their pants and become catatonic with dread
Dude. Seriously. Dude. You can't actually believe that. Dude.

>>50928739
>who have a quite comparable level of technology and intellect.
You just went full fucking retard.

The only things that have comparable level of intellect to humans in Lovecraft's stories are FUCKING GHOULS.

And those guys are just undead things that come from the Dreamlands to our world to eat corpses.

>>50928750
I'd like to remind you that the vast majority of people are scared of rats, mice and spiders.

People are so absurdly easily spooked, it's just silly.

>>50928865
I don't get your weird masochistic obsession with praising alien wing wang, kid, but in fact the aliens of Lovecraft are often more retarded than the average person, being simple predators, and, even when they are civilized, almost incapable of logic and creativity.

There is no sensible, powerful race of ETI in Lovecraft, just Rak'Gol-tier space brigands.

>>50927932
Every apostle has sacrificed someone closest to them in a bid for power. It would probably feel like killing Benedict Arnold if he had two mouths.

>>50928950
Have you been reading Derleth garbage, Anon? You sound like you've been reading the meme-version of Lovecraft, not his actual works.

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>>50927989
I don't think you know what dehumanization means in the military. It removes general hesitations and when combined with discipline, allows you to complete orders that would normally be difficult. It doesn't turn you into a robot death machine that rapes and kills civis.

>>50928204
Depends more on the setting than anything.

>>50929131
Yeah, that's true...

For example, being a demon hunter in eastern mythology would be a lot easier than being one in jewish-monotheism-inspired mythology, since while jews, christians and muslims all have invisible demons that might be anywhere and possess anyone, the buddhists and taoists and shintoists have demons that are basically monsters - they have a clear location and visible shape.

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>>50929055
Reading actual Lovecraft is embarrassingly trashy, his writing is cringe-inducingly hyperbolic, ineffectual, and dated. He freaks out about how crabs look ffs.

Lovecraft fans are fucking pathetic, they're high on the idea of masochistic subordination to nonhuman intellect and will attempt to justify absolute nonsense to sate their twisted, servile lust for mental inferiority.

You want to demonstrate a superintelligent being? Try having it do something resembling halfway intelligent behavior, don't just say "You are crazy now stupid monkey!"

>>50928880
I'm terrified of spiders but I've never shit my pants or gone catatonic from seeing them. I've either tried to kill them, or run and get someone else to do it for me (they do that creepy leg thing when they die). Obviously a skeleton would be different, but it's a bad example when compared to most minor phobias. You still act in the situation.

>>50927932
>turning children into psychotic wasp monster cannibals that were devouring people in the nearby villages and slaughtering each other in their down time

Maybe not the best example.

>>50916374
This

I have a phobia of Skeltons. I mean just look at them!

Hanging there... grining...

>>50929187
>implying anyone cares about lovecraft's writing style

Are you 12 year old? No one likes his prose. Lovecraft is a conceptual writer, hence why he's popular among ~writers~.

>>50929199
Yeah, by running away like a bitch.

How is that different from being catatonic? You're still being a pussy-drone controlled by fear.

>>50916374
Man, everyone I have ever met salivates as the chance to murder skeletons and zombies.
Slow, dumb, easy to kill, no social ramifications for the act. It's perfect.

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>>50928739
>Most Lovecraftian antagonists are just aliens, who have a quite comparable level of technology and intellect.
>What is the Color out of Space
>What were the Elder Things
>What were the Mi-Go
>What was whatever took Erich Zann
>what is Azathoth
>What was the Star Entity from Beyond the Wall of Sleep
>What was the True Sphinx from beneath the Pyramid
>What was the Doom that came to Sarnath
>What was the floating things and the Machine made by Tillinghast in From Beyond
You have obviously never even read a single Lovecraft story in your entire life

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>>50929271
>heh that was close, almost had to confront how idiotic my fetishism of alien minds is, but luckily the ponce pointed out that Lovecraft is a shitty writer, so I can ignore everything else he said and make him look a fool!

>>50929340
His insistence on yelling fetish and the posting of anime pictures make it clear that he only knows about Lovecraft as some cross reference from his VN's or some other retarded otaku shite.

>>50916998
I got an Echidna vibe from her

>>50916998
How did you get this picture of my wife? Please take it down immediately.

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>>50928739
>Looking at some spaghetti monster who doesn't give a shit about humans should not drive you insane - it would not, even.
The insanity doesn't come from looking at it you moron. IT comes from gazing upon hyperdimensional beings, trying to process it, then realizing "Oh shit, everything I know about the universe is completely wrong, I'm an insignificant speck of existence, its only by luck or a cosmic prank I exist, and upon seeing this stuff I can no longer view or look at reality the same way again because I know that the universe is a truly horrible place and that everyone around me is just a blind fool waiting for their end."

Its essentially like being a small bacteria in a dish, suddenly realizing the existence of the microbiologist looking into the dish, and knowing that at any point said microbiologist will decide that the experiment is over and flush out the contents, not caring at all about the life of those insignificant things that swarm and multiply in the auger.

Its not just the realization of it, but being confronted so perfectly with it be evidence beyond denial that you either try to deny it to preserve your sense of life and purpose, or you fall to fatalism at the futility of your own life.
In other words its failure to confront existential crisis and trauma, leading often to mental coping mechanisms like reality denial and/or drugs and things. And even if you try to convince others of what you saw, they'll be convinced you've lost your marbles and lock you away in the looney bin

Then again, to a NEET with no purpose in his life like you, it probably wouldn't seem all that different from how you usually live.

>>50929555
Anon literally all of that is common knowledge nowadays and we are regularly confronted with it.

>>50929691
Uh, no.

Unless you're some kind of fucking hippy, no you do not believe that the universe is a sentient entity that at any moment can destroy you.

You know that the universe is a complex and chaotic system that might cause your death at any point in time. That's very different.

A dumb system of non-living matter is very different from an inhuman intellect.

>>50929691
But concept of a higher life form vastly supior and uncaring about our own existance isn't

Plus it wasn't at the time of Lovecraft's writing, and was a fresh worry and fear in western culture at the time.

Saying his stories are bad because they were written to address an antiquated viewpoint is like saying "To Kill a Mockingbird" is a bad story because many of the cultural idioms and bugaboos in it are antiquated as well. And if you were to honestly believe such a thing, then you probably have no business reading literature in the first place, and should just go back to fapping over reality TV and edge-wankfests like AoT and Goblin Slayer

>>50929733
Man like 80% of people believe the universe is a living entity that could strike them down at any moment for a variety of arcane sins.
>>50929766
And aliens that don't give a shit are super common in fiction to the point if being macguffins.

>>50929691
>>50929733
Also, yes it is common knowledge that the universe is massive and will eventually actively destroy all possible life - but we are NOT regularly confronted with it.

Because if we were, we'd all be inches from death.

Those Russian people in that town where an asteroid exploded in an airblast - those people have been confronted by it. They experienced true cosmic horror and survived.

>>50929786
>Man like 80% of people believe the universe is a living entity that could strike them down at any moment for a variety of arcane sins.
They also believe that this "living universe" loves them, cares for them, and notices them.

It is not the same.

>>50929795
You mean the ones who didn't even give enough of a shit to stop their car and look at it, instead choosing to adjust shades to block the annoying light?
People are confronted with the uncaring and murderous nature so frequently and from such a wide variety of sources that they just don't give a shit any more unless it happens to a family member.

>>50929786
They also bizarrely believe the universe made itself specifically to fill it with them because they're that damn special for some reason

>>50929786
>And aliens that don't give a shit are super common in fiction to the point if being macguffins.
They do now. The thing is, though, it wasn't until after Lovecraft when that form of narrative finally took off and became popular. Granted it wasn't due to Lovecraft, but he was definately one of the precursors along with H.G. Wells and the like.

Unless you're saying that Jules Verne and H.G. Wells are shit too?

>>50929821
>You mean the ones who didn't even give enough of a shit to stop their car and look at it, instead choosing to adjust shades to block the annoying light?

I think you missed the humor in that video.

>>50929821
Looking at some images on reddit does not count as being confronted, retard.

>>50929865
>H.G Wells
Hack.

>Jules Verne
French, so a cuck hack.

Chances are someone will respond to this post without realizing that it was made in jest.

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>>50928739
>Capital G God is not scary
>The Being who flooded the entire earth
>The Being who is the literal entire universe
>Who exterminated a city for debauchery, with a doom laser of fire.
>Who lead people out of the desert with a similar pillar of fire, and an actual tornado.
>Who's Servants are shit like this.
>And they are on fire all the time because they are the only things in existence that can comprehend the true nature of God a fraction of fraction more than you can, and thus blaze with pale imitation of his glory.

>Not scary


Tip Harder faggot.

>>50929805
It is close enough to the same, given that the loving entity presents itself in a number of arcane, mutually exclusive, and occasionally violent ways, often with eternal punishment on top.
>>50929830
That was always really weird.

>>50929733
>You know that the universe is a complex and chaotic system that might cause your death at any point in time
People refuse to believe this no matter how much it happens to other people. It only sinks in once it happens to people they love, then they get all depressed and have to find god or some shit

Seriously, people just don't register how fucked existence is, and freak out if it somehow manages to get through.

>>50929898
Is that why older people are so much more religious?

>>50929865
I actually didn't even say lovecraft was shit, that was qnother guy. I appreciate his work, but these maddening horrors oftentimes really aren't that maddening or horrific.
A good timefucker story can do way more on that front

>>50929889
As a former member of an extreme fundamentalist Christian church, let me tell you what a relief it was when I lost my faith in God.

Felt like a boot stomping on my face forever just suddenly stopped stomping me in the face.

The Biblical God is some serious Azathoth Mad Demon Kalif of the Nuclear Chaos shite.

>>50928739
>The Kike God also has supposedly infinite power and wisdom, but he is not scary.
The kikes specifically depict him as a wrathful and insensible god that is to be feared. They're not like the christfags that think he forgives every fuckup, they are acutely aware he is a vindictive monster and submission out of fear is his number one demand

>>50929939
>extreme fundamentalist
Well there's your problem

>>50929869
It was humorous, and also illustrated a point about people.

>>50929931
One of the whys. You see it happen to relatives as they age. Oprah and the like's been feeding them this new age shit though, so now it's not religion but "spiritualism", whatever that implies

>>50929889
But he loves his people, and everything he did was SPECIFICALLY because he loves his chosen people and is intimately invested in them to the point of exclusion to others.

He's less of a being of total destruction, and more of a Cosmic Yandere

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>>50929555
>oh no I'm not objectively special how scary
How about no, fucking edgy high scool nihilist? Just because things are bigger and stronger than you does not make them more important. You and I and Kike God and Azathoth are EQUALLY (in)significant.

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>>50929998
>calls poster edgy
>proceeds to say men and god are equally insignificant

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>>50929998
>didn't read the whole posts
>using edgy outside of its context
>projecting a point onto the entire post
Go back to your people
>>>/a/
>>>/v/
>>>/r9k/
Its where you belong

>>50929889
No, not scary. Scary is like hyperspeed torture and having your ego overwritten by Chinese goldmining bots, not fire, explosions, and lasers.

>>50929998
>fucking edgy high scool nihilist?
That's not what nihilism is you moron.
Also, Kierkegaardian Existentialism is superior to Nihilism anyway

>>50930032
Stay slaved to that demiurgic BBC, faggot. Power =/= significance, fucking slave sheeple.

>>50930082
>demiurgic
>Gnosticm
>a religious system that defeats itself due to failing to address the epistemological requirements of the Cogito
You are just as much of a bitch as Spinoza

>>50930032
Or significant.
It really depends on how sad you personally want to be.

>>50930137
I'm not a Gnostic, I just agree that all manner of kikery or spaghetti-ry is idiotic slavery.

And in fact we do not think, we merely observe thoughts. We have no agency, we are not the ego we observe, we are the eyes of the true godhead, Akasha.

It depends on the ethical and religious viewpoints of the nuclear operator responsible for turning the key that transforms Hell into a glowing radioactive crater.

>>50917219
You are completely ignoring the strain of constantly fearing for your life and safety. This is why Iraq vets do shit like scan rooftops and swerve a lot in traffic.

>>50930194
>when you get redpilled so hard, you turn in an /x/ freak

I pity you.

Honestly, it is strange to me people expect any kind of benevolent creator.
From what we've seen, if they even exist, they are most likely uncaring and non humanoid.

>>50930194
>I just agree that all manner of kikery or spaghetti-ry is idiotic slavery.
>we are the eyes of the true godhead, Akasha.
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>>50930644
>>50930556
We are divine, not slaves.

>>50930709
"But I'm not Gnostic tho."

>>50929287
I think protecting yourself either by defending yourself from the threat or running from it is better than being frozen.

>>50929786
>80%
Citation needed

>>50930939
Yeah, running is way better than freezing.
Freezing means your threat processors are on the fritz.

>>50923634
Haha, nope. Medical records don't fall under that and hospitals absolutely have to be given up if they're subpoenaed. His ex would only have to file paperwork to get ahold of the files and histories.

Most blue states also collect information on certain diseases especially "high risk" diseases and have passed laws to that affect. In my home state of you get diagnosed with ptsd you get reported and they will start the grinding wheels of bureaucracy forward. Legally, my state has laws on the books that allow them to confiscate guns from the mentally ill but that lumps schizos in with ptsd and the depressed. They haven't exercised it much.

To top it off, they'll block you from buying ammo because that has background checks too now. Guess what disqualifies you. Ptsd.

>>50930977
I am confused why you would be so dense as to ask for a citation on what is obviously an approximate guess of what percentage of the population believes in some kind of omnipresent being.

>>50930082
I think if I had the power to wipe every atom of your faggot existence away just by being near you that I would be considered more significant.

>>50931032
Anon, you are not getting the post-nihilistic realization that all significance is inherently subjective.

>>50931026
I'm confused as to how someone could give such a broad number in relation to omnipresence and the universe when both are mutually exclusive.

>>50931054
I don't think you are getting the concept of aren't elder God. If I was one it would mean I have lived for countless years and have the power to match. If left alone by the other gods (who usually don't fuck with one another) than I will likely live forever, and continue to fuck up reality just by existing.

You can call it subjective if you want. But something that has that much sway in the entire universe is objectively significant.

>>50930939
>>50930989
Depends, when you're faced with armed people or a poisonous snake, it might be best to freeze.

>>50931125
All depends I guess. Obviously if you walk through the forest and run from a squirrel you're probably a coward. But if it's a skeleton or some armed bandits, I would say running is a valid defense, especially since you're either fighting something supernatural or outnumbered.

>>50931067
Probably because a majority of the population do mot view them as mutually exclusive.

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>>50931067
>omnipresence and the universe when both are mutually exclusive

>>50931157
Not if the armed bandits have guns.

Running away just means you're gonna get some lead in your back. Especially when you're dealing with guys that get their stuff from East-European weapon runners.

BRRRRRT BRRRRRRRRRT full auto nigguh.

>>50931117
Nothing is objectively significant, anon.
It can only be significant to the subject percieving it.

>>50930863
Correct, I just share some of their ideas.

>>50927409
>But all evidence points to PTSD being an absolute certainty when you put a soldier in a modern battlefield.

This might actually be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Just this mere concept that all soldiers will develop PTSD causes some soldiers who would not develop PTSD to develop what they understand as "PTSD." There is also the tendency to blame a lot of problems that develop after a soldier returns from a combat zone on PTSD even when they are other things. PTSD has become a catch all for a ton of different mental problems.

>>50929979
It is also why the attacks on September 11, 2001 caused a sharp upturn in religious adherence. While not a direct attack on people they love it was a direct attack on a conceptual group that they had been taught to love.

>>50918950
Honestly, a war zone is way closer to something man was not meant to comprehend than a weird looking monster. We can handle big things with lots of teeth running at us perfectly fine, it's what we evolved to do, but the constant racket, and random, meaningless death of a war zone is a bit beyond what natural selection prepared us for.

>>50931678
No no no.

It has to do with the fact that we humans evolved with the ability to handle anxiety about our lives around hostile humans and hostile predators for a short time.

We didn't evolve capable of handling years of constant combat stress.

If you fight an endless war, eventually you will crack. Biology demands it.

>>50931678
As I understand some of it has to do with the conditioning. Some soldiers get ptsd without every having seen battle.

>>50927434
Hell is just another war.

>>50916886
From the descrption: the thing bbut with dead flesh.
Only really killable with flamethrowers or high yield explosives.

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You just need the right sort of person to do it. Most wouldn't be cut out for it, and PTSD would be common, but some people just aren't that affected by the horrors of war. These will be your demon hunters.

>>50931976
Of course, question remains whether they have the mental strength to stand up to possession themselves.

>>50916374

Bet you are unable to watch many movies

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>>50929795

You say that like humanity doesn't have a 1000 year history with the seas and oceans, which many many tales stories and poems say is a beautiful thing that nonetheless will kill you when you let your guard down at the wrong second any second.

>>50927373
Absolutely, but that's one specific flavor of having "to fight demons, eldritch abominations and the like"

The question really comes down to what, if any supernatural elements they possess? Are they demons and eldritch abominations if they don't possess supernatural elements? What is the specific nature of their incursion into human land? If it's just fairly straightforward conventional warfare with unknowable bizarre enemies with minor or small-scale powers (acid blood, powerful physical defenses, artillery-analogues) then it would be relatively "easy" though of course you still have the baseline of being in combat and risk of physical damage. Bonus points if we aren't trying to garrison demon-held land, bonus points if they aren't bipedal or humanoid.

>>50930032
There's no inherent meaning in the universe. The gods should be assumed to be just as pointless as we are until proven otherwise. I'm not any more meaningful than a paraplegic just because I have more power.

>>50929952
Are you seriously using this obviously fake video to try and prove a point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KN8_qm7HYI

Next you're going to say, "Just because it isn't real doesn't mean it can't illustrate a point about people." which, sure, is technically true but I can make a joke video showing people being humorously calm and casual about executing innocents, or watching their wife being raped. It doesn't show how people actually react because it's not a person actually reacting to the situation.

>>50915889
Simple.
They hide in perfectly with humans and can explode into cow shaped tanks that defy logic in the middle of innocent crowds.

Cause thats what we fear the most, an enemy without a face, no big blob of evil to point at. Shit we go so far to make serial killers obvious and super easy to find because the thought that two rrlatively popular and normal boys turn out to be school shooting psychos is so terrifying and alien to us because we cannot properly dehumanize it.

>>50929555
>Its essentially like being a small bacteria in a dish, suddenly realizing the existence of the microbiologist looking into the dish
I was with you this far, but how do you get
>knowing that at any point said microbiologist will decide that the experiment is over and flush out the contents, not caring at all about the life of those insignificant things that swarm and multiply in the auger.
from looking at a shoggoth or whatever. I can't see any difference between a universe with incomprehensible motives and an indifferent one, and i already believe in the latter, so I'm not really seeing the mind-bending existential horror here.

>>50932190
That's not the video, anon. There were dozens of videos from numerous angles.

Nobody gave a shit.

>>50916224
Guts should not be taken as an example of human norms by any standard. He is, however, a good example of a human acclimating to the horrific and bizarre to the point of not being bothered by what he sees anymore.

For example, if you took a bunch people from all sorts of walks of life and had an apostle in it's true form jump them, I'd say something like 90 percent of them would panic. Some would freeze, others would flee, others would just scream. However it's important to note the ten percent that didn't freeze. Those people have already dealt with crisis before. Some might be military men. Some might be first responders. Some might have had a "mispent youth" or was just born with nerves of steel. Either way you'd get people able to act.

More than that, if you take that same bunch of people, give them time to breath and think about what happened, and then tossed them into a similar situation the number of panickees would drop to something like 30 percent. Granted, they'd still be terrified but they'd be thinking more and could respond to directions. The human mind is an adaptive thing and the more it's exposed to a threat the better it gets at dealing with it.

Modern horror movies have actually given us an advantage by supplying a framework to rationalize things like demons and undead. We'd still be afraid but we'd have context to deal with it.

>>50915889
Well, watch some good, scary horror about demons and shit.
Then go into some dark, quiet, lonely place.
Let your imagination run wild.

>>50931794
Multiple possible reasons for that.

Stress caused by the knowledge that they likely will go into combat causes battle fatigue like symptoms.
Failure to properly transition from a highly-structured hierarchy to a much more loosely-structured or an unstructured hierarchy and visa-versa.
Regularly interacting with members of a culture/subculture antagonistic to soldiers or one that pities soldiers as victims.

All these can cause stress disorders but the disorders they create tend to be diagnosed as PTSD.

>>50928073
You wouldn't have the stigma of murder hanging over it, he means.

>>50916847
In that case - flight.
Just look, that thing took at least two pitchfork and one scythe attack + maybe few shots from rifles.
Not sure how fast that thing is nad not sure how deadly it is, but apparently very deadly.

It's not that bad if you can bash or stab the motherfucker and make it back the fuck off, but if thing shrugs of rifle shots, it's better to fucking book it.

>>50930079
Kierkegaard was a faggot. The leap of faith is just propping up a sham of meaning for no reason, better to live without such delusions and be happy anyway.

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>>50932472
forgot pic

>>50916847
Run away until you can find elemental damage.
That thing just screams "hit me with a live power cable"

>>50928280
>In fact Guts even had to kill a crowd of kids and then vomited after taking a little girl hostage so he could escape from angry townspeople.

And this was somebody who had been killing people left and right since he was 9. Probably the best background you could hope for for a demon slayer.

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>>50930064
Mass destruction is terrifying, bro. I dunno what else to say. It just needs the right presentation. Unnecessary and brutal loss of life is about as horrifying as it gets, nothing else puts a pit in my stomach in the same way.

>>50929287
Because those that flee in terror don't have a plan. Those that go for help do. Having a plan of action, even a bad one, means you're brain is still in play.

Historically, armies tended to suffer more casualties if they fled than if they retreated in good order or fought on. So the reasonable choice is to never break ranks for any reason and yet we see again and again armies fleeing in panic and being run down by cavalry. That's because true panic robs people of their reason. As long as you have the ability to reason and plan you haven't truly panicked.

>>50932389
But murder does not cause PTSD.

Murder causes guilt.

PTSD just happens when you experience horrible fear for your life for hours, days, months, years.

>>50932633
Pretty much. Just go watch videos of live volcanic eruptions, earthquakes or something like 9/11.

Life doesn't get scarier than that.

Except, now imagine that there is this thing in the sky, with a big smile on its face, actively causing the volcano to erupt more - or throwing even more planes down on Manhattan, on more buildings.

>>50932273
>Nobody gave a shit.
They're living in Russia. Death probably is preferable to that.

>>50932792
>murder does not cause PTSD
It can. Guild comes from a lasting knowledge that you killed other people. But the act of killing alone, especially when visceral, can be traumatizing on its own.

>>50932869
I believe that everyone could be as jaded as a russian if only we tried.

>>50933241
Nah, it has nothing to do with trying. It has everything to do with living in a fucking shit country.

I have a friend who lives in Russia. You know what he asked me for a Christmas present? A box of Doritos.

The Russian economy is in so much shit, with Putin stealing billions of rubbles to put on his own private bank account in Panama, Russia fighting/having fought a war in the Ukraine and in Syria and being an oil-dependant economy at a time when oil is just barely crawling out of a deep pit - that local supermarkets just won't bother to reliably supply luxury goods.

In his own words, Russia is back to Soviet days, where you can wait for weeks on some luxury good. Whereas in the past it were cars, or steak. Now it's Coca Cola, Doritos or computer parts. Just anything that has to be imported will have very unreliable supplying.

>>50933353
As in a box filled with bags of Doritos. Would be a bit silly to send a single bag of Doritos to Russia.

>>50932792
PTSD is the possible after effect of a traumatically stressful situation. You know, like post traumatic stress or something

>>50933369
It would also be silly to send a box filled with unpackaged Doritos

>>50916374
Ah

No. That's not how fear works at all.

>>50933895
Well, I am sure that if you ever saw a demonically revived corpse rise, you'd skip on every funeral service for the rest of your life.

>>50916374

>but if you saw a lowly reanimated Skeleton/Corpse in real life 100% of Humans would shit their pants and become catatonic with dread.

This is retarded.
Yes I'd absolutely be horrified, but the entire point of fear biologically is that a majority of people will either retard strength fight it or, more likely, get the fuck out of their ASAP. The whole 'freeze up' group would exist but definitely be a minority compared to the "GTFO" group.

What if all these demons who are so incomprehensible to the human mind are just 4 dimensional beings?

>>50932792
Irrelevant. Normal people are adverse to killing other human beings. The more inhuman the enemy is the less adverse they are to killing it.

>>50915889
Not as bad as some anons in this thread indicate, who seem to believe you'd get PTSD or go outright insane. The kind of stress that breaks you is the persistent high level stress found in modern, industrialized warfare, where you could die at any moment for reasons beyond your control. Sure, hunting and killing demons would be stressful, there'd be some high-level stress briefly before the fight, but that'd be it. Humans can be real fucking tough when necessary, which is easy to forget when you're surrounded by the average schmuck raised in the comfort and safety of a first world nation in the 21st century, if you're the kind of person who kills demons you're probably a pretty hard motherfucker compared to the average-Joe.

>>50934066
I'd argue that most people would feel aversion to killing anything that behaviorally resembles humans close enough. Now this is a moot point if you're talking classic rip your soul out demons, but for any intelligent species the effect would be the same.

And you're also ignoring that people are also adverse to killing things that even vaguely resemble humans in one way or another. Like dogs and cats.

>>50929187
You sound fucking pathetic, you three-chinned autistic turbotard chucklefuck.

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>>50915889
It'd fuck you up good.

Unless you're doomguy or a space marine.

>>50916374
You'd get used to it real quick if it becomes routine

>>50937140
Right, like how ex-rangers and ex-Green Berets are all normal people now.

The amount of retardation in this thread is mind boggling. On one side you have morons who think that the moment we see something out of the ordinary, humans are fucked regardless of training or conditioning. On the other hand we have HFY dumbasses thinking that the human mind is perfectly capable of withstanding all sorts of alien horrors. (To be fair on this last one, I'm pretty sure it's just one guy sperging out)

It would depend on the circumstances which we are subjected to.

Also some people are just built to handle stress or guilt better, it will eventually wear down every man or woman, they can probably handle a whole fuckton of it before it's too much but everyone has their snapping point.

Realistically the enemies we (as humanity) would have trouble with are beings that we know about.

So, I guess the more we know about something when we encounter/destroy it, the worse off we are?

>>50936166
True, we humanize dogs and cats but for something that's hostile and unfamilar? No aversion. It's a monster that needs to die, no ifs ands or buts. There's no reason to hesitate or feel guilty about it later, just aim and pull the trigger.

>>50937160
Part of PTSD is an adaptation to danger. Sometimes, a soldier with PTSD only functions well in dangerous situations. They say that the Hells Angels were started by war vets that were addicted to the adrenaline high.

Experienced soldiers might be less suitable for peaceful living but they've become damn good at at what they do.

>>50916847
I have an assault rifle in my gun safe less than five feet away from me. I'm not saying that will stop it, but I'm pretty confidant in 21st century firepower to slow it down. I'd also probably throw that silver ingot I got in there at it for good measure.

>>50916914
I thought that thing had the face of Trump for a second there

>>50927989
I didn't know my freshman philosophy professor posted here

>>50929889
I find it comforting that my God is beyond my comprehension. I imagine it would take a being of such mind-shredding complexity to properly run the multiverse

>>50929266
The worst part is, they're inside everyone...
Even You!

>>50916374

Not sure why everyone is kicking off about this (I can only assume it's because they're edgy teens), but this is pretty correct. Walk along in a dark forest alone at night and you'll start feeling fight or flight just hearing noises around you. And that's without anything paranormal. Have a decomposing skeleton stumble out of the darkness at you and your first reaction is going to be to panic, no matter how many tabletop games you've played.

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Pic related is an elder thing, they're the closest in mindset to us humans. How would your mind comprehend them?

>>50922001
That's not PTSD at all, moron.

>>50924320

Yeah different fiction has different "horrors". There's such a broad range of 'demons' in fiction, the response varies more than most topics.

Demons from Doom? Giant, fuck-ugly horrors with mechanical augmentation. They can tank multiple point-blank shotgun shells, can throw fireballs that hit as hard as military-grade plasma, and fucking TELEPORT. They'd be an utter NIGHTMARE for soldiers to fight against and what they do to fallen enemies isn't something you'll forget quickly.

Demons from the web-serial Pact? Bizarre creatures from outside reality that EAT reality. The smallest fragment of a demon can poison a city. Knowing a demon's name gets you marked for death in the 'civilised' magical community, for damn good reason. They can eat your identity. They can make the ground 'forget' to support your weight and air forget to enter your lungs. You don't fight demons, you put up a barrier and hope nobody disturbs them while they're eating.

>>50937020
You do realise that Doomguy stopped being human ages ago? He has become something both lower and higher than human, a demon that kills other demons for fun.

>>50941403
Checkmate, atheists.

>>50941403
Weird, but not particularly horrifying, once you look past their appearance and realise that they're just oddly-shaped humans.

>>50941872
Imagine witnessing that for the first time.
They're "humans in mindset" but that likely means distant apathy towards us.

>>50917672
I hear they're starting to have trouble with that science. Army periodicals have been talking up how Late millennials and early iGeneration are too defiant and headstrong, and won't buckle under pressure or engage with abusive drill sergeants like past folk.

>>50923485
Nigga, this is America. Unless he's in Calyforneea, he won't lose his guns, and no self-respecting judge is going to buy the argument that treating a condition is somehow worse than not treating it.

>>50941997
It's now illegal to use the dehumanization tactics they used to use, is why.

The rampant narcissism and sociopathy that we've literally been breeding and training people for is only half the problem.

>>50929106
Then why must they rape wherever they are, hmm?

>>50941997
Well, that is to be expected.

For hundreds of years, armies have trained their men like how a grindstone grinds grain.

But it hasn't always been like that.

In medieval times, military training was a highly individual art - something more akin to martial arts than the soldier factories of the early modern period and the modern period. Training was something between you and your commanding officer. Not something between you and a pyramid of officers and officers of officers and the officers of the officers of your officers, etc.

We are going back to the army model where even a single soldier has value.

Technology is already going that way, with armies prototyping augmented reality tools and powered exoskeletons for soldiers.

Training just has to keep up with these changes.

>>50929318
Your friends are dangerous sociopaths. You aren't safe. You need to get them before the get you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEEo2ynwGk

Take a look at this and other related videos.

90% of us (the serfs, merchants and farmers) would probably freak the fuck out even if the demon/undead/orc was something we could realistically fight against.

Even experienced soldiers I would expect some anticipations of fear. If you were a matador who killed bulls on a regular basis, you would still be apprehensive about fighting a bull and consequences of failure. Now imagine if that bull thinks just as well as you do and knows what tricks you would try to pull.

Even against other human beings we can easily lose our nerves, which is most of a fight.

>>50931678
Who gets taught to love New Yorkers and business people?

>>50942079
Now that's a crazy realisation.

If 9/11 had happened today, in today's climate... a FUCKLOAD of Americans would be happy, saying something like "Goddamn rich Wallstreet assholes had it coming!".

>>50940877
>Have a decomposing skeleton stumble out of the darkness at you and your first reaction is going to be to panic
Doesn't that apply to anything? Even a golden retriever, can be horrifying if it's dark enough.

OP asked
>What would be the psychological stress to fight demons, eldritch abominations
and the like?
Which kinda implies that they don't have magic mind-rape powers, which then again makes them just big, scary looking animals. If anything fighting demon's would probably be less damaging than fighting underaged middle easterners

>>50942031
Nothing wrong with independent minded folk telling sergeant jackadick where to stick it. He's a fucking asshole, m8.

>>50942090
Man, even back then, nobody in my hometown liked those Big Apple worms. They were mostly just upset because it was "right" to be upset. If it had been a freak accident and not an attack that theoretically implied they could also be victims, they wouldn't have given a fuck.

>>50942069
99% of those videos are fake though

Too dangerous to pull that shit in a country with +300 million guns

IIRC in Germany some retard tried to pull the same shit and got promptly beaten up or stabbed.

>>50929691
And that's exactly the point. The things you take as "common knowledge" are completely wrong. Everything you know is suddenly a lie and there's nothing you can do to change it.

>>50942156
Now imagine what would happen when people would pull a gun or try to beat up some monster clown and it actually turned out to be a REAL monster clown.

>people are urged to stay inside at night - scientists still have no clue how a person dressed up as a clown could still strangle a former marine who shot the clown 6 times with 9mm rounds
>police and the national guard are still searching for the monster clown

Are there actually horror movies that just go completely "serious" with some kind of invincible slasher monster?

Like how the new Shin Godzilla movie takes the idea of a kajiu monster completely serious.

>>50942196
>people are urged to stay inside at night
Why bother though? If it's an actual magical being that that can not die then you might as well leave your door open because it's going to get in and kill everyone anyway.

>>50942196
https://youtu.be/0CmPPt6xk_I?t=329

funny you should ask

>>50942365

Skip to 5:31 to avoid all the useless scary crap

This is what real life anti monster hunting should be like

>>50933986
What if we're completely incomprehensible to the demons? Like they want to war with us but just being near us drives them insane

>>50916374

>zombie or skelebob
>shit your pants

But thats Skeletonman. He's the hero inside us all!

Depends on your definition of demons.

Supernatural beings in my setting are based on concepts and fucking loathe themselves. They are actively trying to die but when you have a being derived from pure rage trying to kill itself then it's logical action is to force other beings to kill it while acting on it's nature.

>>50942434
SKELETONMAN! SKELETONMAN!

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>>50927932
Yes. I don't give a shit if the Apostle is reading to children and serving soup to the homeless at a free clinic for the poor; that motherfucker needs to die immediately if not sooner.

>>50942190
The common sense of reality today suggests we live intrinsically pointless lives in a universe which more often than not is hostile to our continued existence. Spooky ghetti-man and his tentacles aren't changing anything on that front.

>>50916374
>We always talk shit about stuff not being scary but if you saw a lowly reanimated Skeleton/Corpse in real life 100% of Humans would shit their pants and become catatonic with dread. Not even speaking of Daemons.
That's for a completely different reason though. Reanimated skeletons and corpses aren't supposed to exist, we'd shit our pants because it's challenging our reality. If our world is full of that shit and we're fighting them for a career then it's completely different