Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1251: Friends On The Other Side Edition

>>50895987
So how are things over at SB?

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Tell me about your favorite piece of clothing.

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>>50895987
I don't appreciate your insinuating that I have Australian "friends", OP.

>>50896035
It's sad to see an Australian alone in the world.

Jump 230: Generic Cult Builder
>Four of Cups (Luxury): Dissatisfaction with the condition and direction of affairs.
>Age: 28
>Location: Marbella, Spain, 5500 BC
Wait, this city doesn't get founded for almost five thousand years. Crap.
>Identity: Shepherd
>Those In Need (Free, Shepherd)
It's helpful to be able to find people who are in need, especially when I am in a position to aid them.
>Impressionable Skills (900, Shepherd)
Now... this? This is an important perk. Not only do I teach people more effectively, but those I teach ALSO teach people more effectively, and so on. This far in the past, the snowball effect should be tremendous.
>Power of Teamwork (700, Shepherd)
The biggest city in this era is in Syria with a whopping population of four thousand people. Worldwide there are about five million people. Honestly I don't think I really need to create a cult worshipping anything so much as teaching people how to work together to create something of value. People are already starting on agriculture, I'll just give them some nudges in the right direction.
>Annals of History (400, Shepherd)
Ultimately, while I'll be building a city as a place for people to learn, it's not going to last the test of time. What will last are the lessons I'll be teaching people. How to survive. How to thrive. Not as families, not as tribes, but as a species.
>The Path (0)
Humanity is greater when it works together, and if this is the lesson taught, then it really will be no surprise that those who work together will believe in that.

It's a technically cult, sure, but that doesn't mean it has to be in worship to a particular god - the world is a less lonely place when there are others to work beside. A burden shared is a burden lessened, after all.

Honestly, the purpose of this cult is to put men's faith in each other rather than gods. Not to build up men to think of themselves as gods, but to believe in the greater sense of humanity overall, and its potential.

>>50896052
Also I may have dropped a few STCs in likely places like the Marianas Trench, the far side of the moon, on Mars... after all, if humanity gets together, why shouldn't I help them achieve still-greater heights?

Captcha I swear to christ you need to stop fucking asking me about sushi, hamburgers are NOT FUCKING SUSHI.

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What are your post-Spark plans? Are you planning on finally setting up?

What would be the best jumps for those of us planning on building our own plane once our travels end?

>>50896052
Could you please post a copy of that? I missed when she posted that.

>>50896052
Is Generic Cult Builder finished? I thought it was still wip. If finished does someone have a copy?

>>50896073
It's finished enough for me to jump it, but it is still a WIP, yes.

>>50896063
Darksiders. The post-spark Builder reward makes you able to build universes.

>>50896063
The Traveler jump is good for that. The Darksiders Maker capstone gives you the knowledge to create your own worlds post spark. You can also probably figure it out naturally given that planes walkers have created artificial planes.

>>50896063
>What would be the best jumps for those of us planning on building our own plane once our travels end?
You can literally do that with just the Spark.

But Darksiders does have an option to help with it.

>>50895844
>Namer lets you create narrative roles in the world
That's really cool. I need this!

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>>50896066
I've got the wip version which I'll post. Think it's the most recent.

>>50896141
thank you.

>>50896063
I intend to establish a network of gates across various settings in order to let people travel between them. Not direct travel between them, but with various nexus worlds that are meant to facilitate travel and trade. Much like Stargate, the intention would be to make sure that they are large enough to permit people to travel through, but not in vast enough numbers to send through armies or major military hardware.

Also going to ensure that humanity gets upgrades in general everywhere that I can spread it. We're not talking catgirl retrovirus or anything - something more along the lines of a humanity mark two. Resistance to genetic and mundane disease, extended lifespan and increased overall health, et cetera. I have been giving that out for a number of jumps already, thanks to Evo, though it includes the Harry Potter magical genetic markers among other things.

>>50896198
>taking it upon yourself to modify humanity
such delicious hubris
can't wait for the inevitable blowback

>>50896220
So you're saying I shouldn't make humans more durable, resistant to disease and cancer and so forth? Why, exactly?

>>50896198
Eh, I'm always sceptical about the Harry Potter genes giving magic to people in non-magical settings. To me it's more like an access key to alredy existing magic, rather than creating magic outright ex-nihilo. But it's never really stated either way.

>>50896226
because it's not up to you
you're messing with forces beyond your ken

>>50896233
Most jumpers are literally gods several times over. That argument is invalid. Please try again.

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>>50896233

>>50896226
Depends how you go about it, I suppose. Do you ask people what they think before turning them into transhumans?

>>50896233
How old are you? Not questioning your maturity, genuinely want to know. Because messing with forces beyond our ken when it comes to health care is the reason any of us live past 25. We've got a pretty good track record on this. Hell, without genetic engineering to provide artificially-grown enzymes, I would have died when I was seven. I'm perfectly fine with playing god, so long as you keep to ethical standards in your experimentation.

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>>50896271
>is the reason any of us live past 25.
>this meme again

>>50896256
having power doesn't give you the right to mess with people's very nature according to your personal whims
>>50896271
you have to be 18 to be here so I'm at least 18

>>50896226
>Harry Potter magical genetic markers among other things.

This is none of those things.

>>50896063
DC Occult, Traveler's Gate, and Sonichu all give pocket dimensions you can "carry" with you while jumping. It's possible a clever jumper could figure out a way to combine them as is. Also Legend of Manna has a perk that allows you to bind lands into relics and take them with you. Which is kind of a dick move out of certain circumstances, but hey it works.

Its possible you could get a decent sized plane as it is if you can merge them.

As for my plans eventually my plane will be GENOM home office, with my Yozi souls being the Board of Directors.

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>>50896023
Probably my Cloak of Night. It's got starry skies on the inside. Sorta looks like pic related, but with less wings.

Alternatively, my witch's hat. It's pointy and comfy.

...Alternatively alternatively, my superhero "costume". Which is more of a casual look than the usual skintight stuff, but has some very nice upgrades.

>>50896063
I'll send avatars exploring further to new worlds, but mainly I'll be catching up with people I had to leave behind.

And building my own planes. Not because that's anything particulary interesting (I'd already have a few planes by that point, some of my own design), but because I want to experiment with creating new and different laws of nature/reality/magic and see what happens.

>>50896284
>modern medicine am play gods
>this meme again

>>50896291
In other words, you're not. Somehow unsurprising. Watch some friends die of cancer, suffer parkinsons and other diseases, and then tell me that I am doing things according to my personal whims.

>>50896267
Yes, without question. It wouldn't be ethical to do otherwise, and there are very few settings where I have rolled out upgrades like that species-wide, though it does breed true in children. I don't plan on going and doing that until I have had quite a bit of time to make sure nothing is going to go wrong.

You'd probably not be surprised how many people are willing to take the upgrade when you tell them what it will do, though. Increased overall strength and health, decreased need for caloric intake and massive resistance to malnutrition is the least of it.

>>50896305
That is one small part of the whole. If you don't want magic, go be a muggle.

>>50896284
I'm going with the estimated median lifespan for Neolithic humans, going by several studies. Ironically, studies show it was actually higher for Palelothic humans, at 33 years average lifespan. Turns out that a hunter-gatherer diet is a bit better for you than an early agricultural one, which had lead many anthropologists to wonder why we adopted agriculture in the first place.

>>50896073
She dropped and ran, anon. We should have seen the signs when she dropped MCU and BC.

She's not coming back.

>>50896291
>you have to be 18 to be here so I'm at least 18
>doubt.meme

>>50896315
>this meme again
Funnily enough, that's actually not the meme I'm referencing.

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>>50896328
>>50896332
>it's another "let's accuse everyone of being le shitposter" tactic again
>if i say it enough, maybe it'll come true
Hey, if you have proof otherwise that she's coming back and going to pick those jumps up again, feel free to prove me wrong. I want you to prove me wrong. But it's not looking good.

>>50896318
Mostly because there are things more important than living a longer life, like not having to expend all your energy hunting. Without agriculture there would be no modern society.

Is just me or the Fate/Jumpchain isn't on the googledrive?

>>50896305
Harry Potter wizards are more durable than muggles so it does fit that part of it. Admittedly with the knowledge from the new film on that if children suppress their magic too much it creates an Obsucurus giving out potter verse magic will probably cause a few issues

>>50896318
The Goa'uld forced them.

>>50896359
It's just you. I can see it.

>>50896318
>which had lead many anthropologists to wonder why we adopted agriculture in the first place.
Wouldn't it be that agriculture is a more predictable, stable way to get calories than hunting and gathering? I mean that and if you find a good spot to set up you can defend it against predators and competitors more easily than if you're just hangin' out on the plains.

>>50896315
He's right, though. Modern medicine isn't the reason we live /past/ 25 as it is the reason we live /to/ it.

>>50896328
Can someone add to the warning the time he tried to start a cross thread war on Christmas and was defeated by the power of friendship? Because I want him to remember that every time someone posts the warning.

>>50896370
That is believed to be one of the major factors, yeah. A lot of anthropologists don't believe that alone would do it, though. A pretty popular theory I've seen is that there were also local ecological collapses that meant that the steady supply of food was very tempting. In times of plenty, hunter-gatherer societies could compete with agriculturalists, but in times of famine, farming won out.

>>50896385
It's more the reason that the majority of us live to it. The reason lifespan was so low back then is mainly due to the very large children/infant mortality. Although it has extended the maximum amount.

>>50896369
Sorry, In which folder?
I dont knowy why, but i dont find in any of them

>>50896431
Everyone Elses's Jumps > Complete but need image work > A-M Jumps > Fate/ JumpChain.pdf

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For a Jumper centered on deals and trading, what caste/yozi combination would be best?

A Fiend Casste who favors Cecelyne, or a Malefactor Caste who favor the Ebon Dragon?


Also, would it be too cliche if I use a small and cute animal as my form when dealing with mortals?

>>50896431
The A-M subfolder of the Complete But Need Images folder.

>>50896359
It's just you. Though Brutus did remove MGLN for some reason.

>>50896457
MGLN?

>>50896471
Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha

>>50896446
>>50896452
Oh, sorry, I had not looked at this whole folder. thank you.

>>50896479
No problem

>>50896457
>>50896471
>>50896475
Probably because the maker had said a bunch that she wants to update it like she did with Titanfall.

>>50896451
Fiend who favors Cecelyne. Fiend Castes can sanctify oaths like Eclipses and Moonshadows can, works better for deal making than Malefactors' religion anima powers. As for appearing as a tiny cute animal, there's a homebrew Cecelyne charm called "Quixotic Benefactor Shintai" in the old version of the Book of Ten Thousand Scorpions document that is perfect for emulating Kyubey. It's even in the name: QB Shintai. Have a link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fTZKlvM9eCIpDHHmi_2Um37XaBfJvxLMGen2AWrpD2M/pub#h.amz8l6q0yji6

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>>50896451
>A Fiend Casste who favors Cecelyne, or a Malefactor Caste who favor the Ebon Dragon?
Fiend who favors Cecelyne. Definitely.

You're going to a fuckton of use out of Cecelyne's charms (being a genie is great fun). But Fiends are the ones with Oath-Binding, and Malefactors just have priest-stuff.

Also, if you can get at her charms, Hegra also has some trading themes.
>a creature of interaction, of commerce, of exchange. (She is catholic in her understanding of such things, deeming both gifts and theft to be degenerate—albeit appealing—forms of trade.)


>Also, would it be too cliche if I use a small and cute animal as my form when dealing with mortals?
Not at all, Kyubey.

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>>50896505
>>50896496
Thank you!

>>50896505
>Not at all, Kyubey.
Wasn't there an anon who wanted to make a build centered in creating Magical Akuma Girls?

>>50896457
It's not actually removed, just in the WIP folder.

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>>50896600
>Wasn't there an anon who wanted to make a build centered in creating Magical Akuma Girls?
I think so, yeah. Seemed like a pretty amusing idea.

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>>50896023
my jumpsuit, I invented the new form of hyper carbon myself, so yes it is in fact diamonds that wear like denim

>>50896023
As part of my daily wear I have a black knee-length vest. It's got a split up the middle to the small of my back for riding and tails and a boatload of enchanted pockets. It's great for keeping tools and small supplies close by for Jumps where I Drawback my perks away and explaining away small uses of Inventory of Steve.

Heavens just since you didn't seem to notice it last time can fusion from Metroid assimilate enchanted mechanical weapons as well? I want to feed my driver belt my hunting rig and there Is all lot of mojo in its Bolt throwers

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>>50896063
>What are your post-Spark plans?
The Republic of Heaven.

Along with studying the nature of reality, unreality and pretty much anything, and catching up with all these people I haven't (from my perspective) seen in millennia.

>>50896787
you could also use the party perk from Hero BBS
lets you catch up with friends from old jumps

>>50896359
>>50896369
>>50896446

I had a similar problem Just now, in the google drive app, for some reason, certain files only are shown on browser

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>>50896063
Aside from playing God for a while, probably the creation of the Council of Jumpers, made entirely by the most powerful and handsome beings in the universe: my alternate selves spread through the multiverse.


Also I would probably try and act as a 'Benefactor' for my own alternate selves in other universes.

>>50896695
Hi there. So I was wondering.

Does making someone Akuma really let you give them ALL your powers, or did I misread?

>>50896814
Where should I go to pick up magically enforced contracts?

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>>50896827
>you were the Benefactor all along

>>50896844
Ravenloft and Ghost Rider.

>>50896844
Disney Princess has an option where you can make those, based on Ursula from The Little Mermaid (I think).

Harry Potter has the Unbreakable Vow that you can use so long as you can magic.

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>>50896787
>The Republic of Heaven.
What does that MEAN though?
>>50896827
Reed is so fucking smug... Next time I'm in the Marvel universe I really need to steal his waifu.

>>50896854
>>50896861
thanks guys

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>>50896849
It was pretty obvious, wasn't it?

Did you truly believe that an all-power inter-dimensional being would pick you if it wasn't for self-reproduction?

>>50896849
>>50896876
Oh good, I'm not the only one that noticed that.

>>50896063
Introducing God-King Jane of Barsoom, who punched Mars into habitability.

>>50896866
>What does that MEAN though?
It's not really made clear in the books. It's basically a new arrangement for the Multiverse, without a central Authority (=God) overseeing anything. I just thought the name sounded cool.

I'm thinking of being a bit more literal and making basically a federation of universes with some limited interference.

Is someone working on a Dark Ages Vampire jump? If so, you are awesome and I can't wait. If not, I'd like to claim it.

>>50896695

This reminded me of some Infernals stuff I was wondering.

1. Is it possible to have lower essence charms that require higher essence ones? Mostly wondering if it's possible to develop charm upgrades for Spirit of the Living World, or if it would require a more complicated process.

2. Would it be plausible for a Devil Tiger to design a charm to personify their notional primordial as a sort of weird-spirit advisor thing?

>>50896918
Speaking of which, none of the World of Darkness Jumps are in continuity with each other, right?

>>50896948
Not without drawbacks, they aren't.

>>50896876
Oh god, she picked the type of person that wouldn't quit the chain and go home no matter how many times the offer was made.

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>>50896876
Waifu or waifu'er, it's all good.

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>>50896023
It's a sweater. A rather ugly thing too. It's dark blue with white patches sewn into it randomly, with little sewn pictures on each patch. There's a unicorn in bright pink, a gnome with green clothes and a pointy red hat, a jar of peanut butter and jelly on another one, and many more seemingly nonsense designs. I don't wear it. It's several sizes too small anyways. But I keep in hung up in my Warehouse bedroom closet. I like keeping it as a reminder. If I try real hard, sometimes it still smells like her.

During Gravity Falls Mabel knitted Jumper a special sweater on his last day. She was trying to make him feel better for having failed to deal with Bill in any kind of permanent way. It was also partly an apology as the Pines Twins wanted to come along, but decided against it at the last minute. Jumper is not immune to regrets.

>>50896063
I'm going to throw a giant party on a massive party ship at the end of time and space. All of you who aren't jerks are getting an invite along with all my favorite people from across the multiverse. Plus whoever else I think might be fun to party with. I plan to ask BartenderAnon to bring his stash of alcohols and foods from across the dimensions. Plus I really want to meet him. He seems like a really cool dude.

After that? Probably keep Jumping. I might double my Companion slots and expand my Warehouse a bit though. Once I get bored of that, I'll start making my own Jumpers. That should be neat.

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>>50896834
All your powers, in the same sense that Akuma get all the Yozis powers.

So, they get a boost from being an Akuma and you can rearrange their "character sheet" to sacrifice things. From those two pools of "xp", you give them some powers (Or just give them swordmanship or something, if you like? Or make them nicer?)

The rest, they'll have to learn. They basically treat all your powers as their "charmset", from which they can learn things. But stuff like superspeed to do stuff at Mach 2 or however fast, will take a few "charm purchases" and a good long training time.

But theoretically they can get everything. (Well, almost, Mortals turned into Akuma won't be able to learn Exalted Sorcery or Martial Arts above Terrestrial, and Dragon-Blooded Akuma won't be able to go above Celestial in either.)


And this is only with the perk, the charm version only lets you give them your Devil Tiger charms.

>>50896933
>1. Is it possible to have lower essence charms that require higher essence ones? Mostly wondering if it's possible to develop charm upgrades for Spirit of the Living World, or if it would require a more complicated process.
...I don't think so, no. Sorry.

That said, you could probably work around that, maybe building it out of your Devil Tiger charms or an unrelated Heretical mixture instead if that works.

Out of curiosity, what would you like to do with it?

>2. Would it be plausible for a Devil Tiger to design a charm to personify their notional primordial as a sort of weird-spirit advisor thing?
Sure. As long as you can figure out a way for that to make sense as a charm that would fit in your Devil Tiger's theme?

>>50897011
Great. Thanks!~

>>50896318
Hunting & Gathering declined after all the megafauna were hunted to extinction. Its why the South American Amerindians started agriculture as well.

Also more people have more kids, because they needed more farm hands. Which leads to more people living next one another. That and the diet which wasn't what evolution had made us to do all contributed to the decline in life expectancy.

>>50896063
Basically going to be doing the same thing on a much larger scale,lots of assholes who need their Asses handed to them,empire building maybe have some more kids,bring greater levels of fairness and equality To the Multi-verse.

Is there anything that would let you seal a being inside of a person (Jinchuriki style) and let them use all of its abilities no matter if it cooperates or not?

>>50897064
Sure. Dark Binding, as long as you don't mind killing them.

God damn it, captcha, STEAK IS NOT SUSHI.

>>50897064
Helsing vampires can do that, so turn someone?

How hard would it be to convince Thor to let me borrow his hammer for just long enough to copy it with Cheat Mode?

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>>50894944
I feel like I should chime in here, since I slept through the original conversation. The original version of Heaven's Lost Property was something of a lazy 'sure why not' jump by me just because I wanted to wreck the setting or watch people do it. I didn't really come into my own until I started looking at other jumps more closely and taking a lot of cues from older jumpmakers. If you wanted my honest opinion, I didn't really come into my own until I made Boktai and updated Lost Property.

I owe a lot of my inspiration from folks like Dirge, Worm, and various other jumpmakers who used the expanded 1/1/2/2/4/4/6(/6) formats, and anyone who put effort into fluffing their perks out like Digger did and still does, or just made a good representation of the setting that was fun to play with, like Cats and stupid_dog. Yes this includes Red. That CP tax format didn't come from thin air, after all. I'm going to happily tune out any shitposting in that general direction, so please don't waste your time.

Whether a jump is short or long, anyone who made a sincere effort of love and care, or at least consideration to a setting is where I found inspiration to take a longer shot at jumpmaking. They deserve full credit for making this place fun and interesting in their own ways and making me sincerely enjoy sticking around. Yall are fantastic and I hope to follow this rail to wherever it ends up.

>>50897076
>>50897077
Wait, Dark Binding lets you put the souls you capture in other people to give them the souls power?

>>50897079
Impossible unless you're worthy and one of Thor's best friends.

>>50897064
I think the Ghost Rider jump may have had something like that as a drop-in perk, but I'm not sure.

Does full completion of EVO: The Quest for Eden unlock the Gates of Eden reward only for you, or for your companions as well?

>>50897092
Use Any Magic Item.

Okay so my best bet is using time stop while he's asleep?

>>50896353
>I want you to prove me wrong.

Why the fuck do you want to be proven wrong. We're better off this way.

>>50897098
All companions go to hell, I'm pretty sure Don Bluth made a movie about it.

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>>50896866
Good choice, just make sure it's not a version that has done it with Aqua Typhoid there, I'm not sure even a Jumper can handle that space herpys.

>>50897090
>Wait, Dark Binding lets you put the souls you capture in other people to give them the souls power?

not really, but you can basically unleash the soul in question and they can kill it and absorb it, I think. failing that go to generic dungeon,then civilization and put them at the bottom of your dungeon once it's at a level they are at their full power after you turn the person in question so they can absorb it.
>>50897086
hey, if I'm being Annoying and you're Ignoring me. I'm sorry but I won't know to stop Unless you tell me. So does fusion from Metroid work on enchanted mechanical weapons?

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>>50896844
>Deal Maker (Disney Princess)
>D&D Magic
> Infernal Fiend Castle (Exalted: Infernals) or a Solar's Dawn Castle when it comes out
>A Golden Opportunity (Once Upon a Time)
>Fate Sphere contracts (Mage: The Awakening)
>Craft your own Self-Geis variation (TYPE-MOON)
>Unbreakable Vows (Harry Potter)
>Crossroads (Supernatural)
>Pledges (Changeling)
>The Name of Life (Chihiro)
>Deal with the Devil+Spirited (Ghost Rider)


Bonus:
>Faustian Flip (DC Occult)
>Deal Breaker (Ghost Rider)

This is all that I have.

>>50897129
More options than I was expecting, thank you

>>50897079
Ask him very, very politely. He might actually let you try to lift it out of amusement.

And then use False Balance from Age of Wonders, which will let you explicitly bypass any sort of alignment-based restrictions on artifacts, in order to lift it.

Because everyone keeps forgetting that Use Any Magic Item has a DC roll and you might randomly fail.

>>50897079
Well, I'd say that grabbing it (and not /lifting/ it) would make it possible to copy it, but then you'd just have another unliftable hammer (unless you could already lift it but that's another problem to what you were asking).

...Actually, semi-related question: What would happens if a worthy person (like Thor) /and/ an unworthy person both tried to lift the hammer at the same time?

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>>50897129
> Infernal Fiend Castle (Exalted: Infernals) or a Solar's Dawn Castle when it comes out
>not Eclipse Caste

...Now I want a castle glowing with sunlight in Solars jump.

>>50897117
I'd appreciate a serious answer.

>>50897156
The Overlord one does? Not D&D.

>>50897129
Mastering Force magic from Fall from Heaven should work too. It's all about enforcing contracts, sacred grounds, anti-magic protections, etc...

>>50897086

But did you have to originlock the Prototype in HLP? I would have been perfectly willing to pay full price if I was just able to

>>50897053
Can I use Cheat Mode to copy the Lanterns and Rings of myself and my companions so we all have one of each?

What happens if you use all the colors at one time?

>>50897086

Bodacious Babes

>>50897156
You're thinking of Use Magic Device.

Use Any Magic Item is an Innate Talent from the Overlord jump that allows you to use any magical item regardless of restrictions.

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>>50897198
It's an old jump in severe need of a rework, sue me. I can happily remove the originlock somewhere down the vine - it was something of an impulse fluff decision at the time.
>>50897126
Good question! The answer is 'fucked if I know'. It's explicitly based off of Chozo tech, and the Chozo were a pretty spiritual race, though I don't know if they actually used anything 'supernatural' tech.

I'm going to say 'probably not on its own'. You may want to combo it with some perks that make the integration easier, or count as pure tech. If you have some ways to make the transition easier, then sure. You may want to adapt your suit to use whatever magical energies are needed to power it, though.
>>50897227
Yes. Yes indeed.

>>50897239
Ah. Handy. Pity that I hadn't the points to grab that, but well, I've already got an alternative as aforementioned.

>>50897170
Oh, you're right.

Also, I should add the Moonshadows for when Abyssals is done.

And I forgot to add the Ravenloft perk. But I don't really want to go to that place. I have a thing against jumps with fail-conditions other than surviving, specially when they involve GM-tier powers.

And >>50897129 can get pretty ridiculous if you have something like The Landlord's Game (although I don't know if a perk like that exits or you can get it to function outside the game) .

>>50897246
are there such perks? And it's not supernatural technology so much as enchanted regular technology, the guns in question were enhanced with the infinite ammo methods of devil may cry

>>50897218
>>50897053
Oh and also do companions get one discount in the item section?

>>50897218
cheat mode explicitly copies anything that does not explicitly say it cannot be copied,it's going to take all your uses A bit over a year, I suggest you just build your own using the shard and the Alpha lantern blueprints since that way you have not only a main power battery, but instructions on how to make the lanterns themselves.

>>50897259
It's also one of the Void familiar powers in ZNT/FOZ.

>>50897291
If it's just an item enhanced by another perk, then it's fine. That's a really weird line between 'actual magical tech' and 'I am using my omnipotent benefactor to subvert needing to reload because fuck reloading'.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't have any jurisdiction over out-of-jump perks. Assume that if a perk or item doesn't say 'no you can't', you can combo it with whatever you get elsewhere.

>>50897368
>being a slave to anyone in that universe
How about no?

>>50897375
that's part of the problem, the perk in question was knowledge on how to mystically improve Mechanical weapons with demonic crafting methods, so I guess this is going to be a no since they are basically enchanted regular guns Which are part of a suit of power armor rather than magically empowered guns...


seriously, are you putting The "combine one or more transformation devices perk in KRNH3 because This is it just me trying not to rely on that....

>>50897491
Yes.

A part of me wonders that if we ever make a complete jump for every bit of KR canon and import every single belt, it will just change into the Decade driver or something.

>>50897508
to which part?
>A part of me wonders that if we ever make a complete jump for every bit of KR canon and import every single belt, it will just change into the Decade driver or something.

I can actually see this happening,after a fashion. I haven't finished watching decade since it keeps pushing even my Tolerance for Tokusatsu nonsense though, decade is messed up.

>>50897541
The part about the belts. There will be imports/combinations.

Yeah Decade is...weird. I can see why we repeatedly imply he's behind some of the nastier drawbacks.

>>50896063
I'll reconnect with all of the countries I've conquered and merge them into one super empire. I'll then sort every setting based on how much they would benefit from my rule vs. how difficult they'd be to conquer. I'll then set to work slowly rebuilding everything in my image, spreading my empire to the far corners of every universe. Technology and magical levels will be raised, obscenely decadent standards of living will be introduced, justice will be established, and culture will be carefully recalibrated to remove evil and prevent crime. The dead will all be raised and evil spirits will be remade until they can interact with the rest of society peacefully. And when all despair, loss, and discontent is banished, and peace and justice reign as all my cosmic competitors are forced to kneel and acknowledge my primacy, all of the omniverse will sing my praises forever and ever as their beloved god emperor.

>>50897011

>Out of curiosity, what would you like to do with it?

I'm not completely sure yet. It's mostly that as is you can't really use it for much without upgrading it. You literally can't even physically visit the world created by Spirit of the Living World with just the base effect.

>Sure. As long as you can figure out a way for that to make sense as a charm that would fit in your Devil Tiger's theme?

Haven't quite figured that out yet either. I mostly just had the thought of a Devil Tiger personifying their technically non-existent primordial interesting. Then I got curious if it could be done.

>Akuma stuff

This reminded me of something else I was wondering.

How exactly does the loss of free will for Akumas work? Basically do they completely lose the ability to think and feel (and stuff like that) becoming mindless automatons, or is it just that their given orders they can't resist but otherwise retain their minds, or is it something else?

>>50897564
fair enough , I keep forgetting I have a Alchemiter now I guess that would work? But on the other hand, I'm pretty sure using it For that would be murder, Since my belt is intelligent....

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>>50897579
>All the omniverse

Great, another omnidictator.


Hope you light fighting your evil alternates.

>>50897690
I do! The best part is when all my defeat means friendship perks kick in, they start begging for my forgiveness and love, and I, in my infinite mercy, give it to them.

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>>50897721
>You get defeated by an evil version of yourself and you end up being their minion
Or they claim your soul.

besides the supcom paragon what other sources of infinity energy are there in the drive?

>>50895987
Question about the Practical Guide to Evil - Naming supplement.

What's the difference between your Role and your Aspects?

>>50897756
>Something beating a 700 jump post-spark jumper with several omnipotent wishes.

>>50897765
Orgel of Origins from Ar Tonelico Jump,that The Magic skull in Justice league dark,I forget it's name

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>>50897587
>spoiler
Fair enough. Charms to enter it physically probably don't need it as a prerequisite. Perhaps something to move to different realms of existence, which allows you to enter if you also have Spirit of the Living World?

...There's also Manses. Just building an Otherworld Gate should work fine.

>Then I got curious if it could be done.
Fair enough.

>How exactly does the loss of free will for Akumas work? Basically do they completely lose the ability to think and feel (and stuff like that) becoming mindless automatons, or is it just that their given orders they can't resist but otherwise retain their minds, or is it something else?
Well. They can think and feel. But they are unable to defy their Urges, and must press on relentlessly until their orders change.

They don't have the free will to stop or reasses the situation. But depending on the Urge, they may have some lenience in how they do stuff. (The Blood Queen sometimes has free time to torture the two assholes that caused her fall.)

But then you have Urges like "Obey and serve Cecelyne" and those are virtually puppets, only existing to obey.

Akuma could even be commanded to feel things, to forget things, or to belief things. And then to stop doing so, or to remember.

Mechanically...
An akuma’s Urge replaces her Motivation for all purposes, including Willpower recovery, Social Combat, and Charms that normally affect another character’s Motivation. Unlike the Green Sun Princes, an akuma has no built-in mechanism for reconfiguring an Urge that is no longer viable for some reason (i.e., an impossible Urge). An akuma who discovers that fulfilling her Urge has become impossible is in danger of madness, as she loses her sense of purpose entirely, along with the capacity to regain Willpower through her Urge.

>>50897809
This is an alternate self that we're talking about. It's either your equal or an even min-maxed version of yourself.

And that's why you don't mess with true infinity. You're bound to end up facing something far stronger than yourself.

>>50897767
>a Name is who you are, a Role is what you do with respect to story tropes and archetypes, and Titles are just fluff.

As far as I understand it, the Aspects are the three ways in which your Name empower you, I think?

>>50897856
And don't forget the Benefactor may be able to take your powers back whenever they get bored, for all you know.

>>50897856
I assume Jumpchain doesn't take place in a setting that is that infinite. If there were that many jumper grade beings out that, one of them would have already conquered, destroyed, or at least visited all the universes I went to in my chain. But all of them are completely clean from out-of-dimension interference.

And even if they do exist, waiting around for them to invade first is just asking to die. May as well be proactive.

>>50897885
That's why you need to make friends with your Benefactor. Put those charisma perks to work.

>>50897885
Or destroy your entire universe after throwing a tantrum for you not playing along.

I really need to get back to work on that rebooted chain, especially with Part 3 drawing near. I feel like I need to top the [Demon on Wheels] arc, because god that was fun to write.

>>50897858
wait are Names and Roles not the same thing? damn it..
I thought Aspects gave you powers?

Jumpers, tell me: have you ever used the rogue jumper supplement?

>>50897976
It never happened.

Fighting min/maxed evil Jumpers is not nice.

>>50897936
Aspects give you powers, yeah. They'd be the specific manifestations of your Name.

Like, you have a Name, and under that Name fall three Aspects that give you stuff.

...I think your Role also gives you powers though?

>>50897925
By the way, who was Demon on Wheels?

I didn't know who it was, and I can't recall if you've ever explicitly revealed it.

>>50898053
so confusing ;_;

>>50897765
Megas Therion (Anima).

>>50897976
Might as well use the Warehouse supplements while you're at it.

>>50898065
A very different take on a rogue Jumper. She actually lost all of her perks but found a way to tail someone's chain through a combination of desperation and willpower. Everything she picked up was stolen from various Jump settings, or in the case of her Stand, stabbed herself with the Arrow the Jumper forgot to pick up.

She finally died with a mirror version of her universe after a motorcycle chase and showdown.

Mass resurrection. How do I do?

>>50897389
Void familars aren't actually enslaved though. They have their homesickness removed and that's about it. Brimir died to his gandalfar stabbing the fuck out of him.

>>50898099
Overlord seems to work for that.

>>50898099
Specialize as a healer in Overlord.

>>50898096
Ah, I was way off. I was thinking it was some random background character that Jumper had met and who I should have recognized.

>>50898099
>be a healslut
>start gangbang

>>50898121
With corpses?

>>50898101
Do you lose the powers if you kill your master or just walk off?

>>50897976
No.

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>>50898121
>Le healers are slut ep1c me me

What are the best jumps for being a space pirate?

>>50898109
>>50898111
Now the question is how many and how fast? Right now I would prefer a different jump because Overlord is where I want to use it, but if it's good enough I'll be changing my build.

>>50898121
Provide the method and I will revive the world with the biggest orgy you've ever seen.

Where would I get anti precog perks besides Worm?

>>50898140
I don't think so, but we do not see anything like that happen in canon so we can't be sure.

>>50898156
Treasure Planet

>>50898156
Pirates of the Caribbean.
The fact that there are no other pirates in space means you'll be the best one by default if you manage to get up there.

Or, as a serious answer, Metroid has a Space Pirate origin. It might not be the best, however, because Samus is going to want you dead.

>>50898158
Overlord the one of the few noticed jumps that have mass scale Resurrection. There is probably some obscure jump that has something like that though.

Maybe you can combine the many small scale Resurrection that litter jumpchain to create one giant Resurrection once per jump.

>>50898156
I'm pretty sure most space opera jumps have space pirates in them. It's like a rule.

>>50898140
Probably if you kill your master, since Gandalfr dude lost his runes when he died because the familiar bond was broken.

But not if you just walk off. They can't summon a new familiar, unless you die.

>>50898140
Not sure if you kill them but if you walk away then they can't do shit.

>>50898151
Healer isn't slut.
Healer is trained and jaded prostitute who knows how all this ends.

>>50898163
Practical Guide to Evil has VOID as an Aspect

>>50897820

>Fair enough. Charms to enter it physically probably don't need it as a prerequisite. Perhaps something to move to different realms of existence, which allows you to enter if you also have Spirit of the Living World?

>...There's also Manses. Just building an Otherworld Gate should work fine.

Thanks for the suggestions.

>Well. They can think and feel. But they are unable to defy their Urges, and must press on relentlessly until their orders change.

Would something like a Dalek from Doctor Who, or a Terminator from Terminator work as a good analogy for this?

>They don't have the free will to stop or reasses the situation. But depending on the Urge, they may have some lenience in how they do stuff. (The Blood Queen sometimes has free time to torture the two assholes that caused her fall.)

Does this mean they can't decide how to follow their Urge, or just that they have to follow it in some form?

>Unlike the Green Sun Princes, an akuma has no built-in mechanism for reconfiguring an Urge that is no longer viable for some reason (i.e., an impossible Urge). An akuma who discovers that fulfilling her Urge has become impossible is in danger of madness, as she loses her sense of purpose entirely, along with the capacity to regain Willpower through her Urge.

Is it possible for an Akuma to have an Urge that's adaptable enough to be extremely unlikely to be rendered impossible, or does it have to be specific and limited enough for that to be a possibility?

Also thanks again. I kind of realized that free will is a tricky concept, and not everyone agrees on what it even means. So figured I should ask.

>>50898158
The jump just says "mass resurrect the dead with no penalty to the person that died" for a Level One Hundred Divine Caster. Add Realm of Heroes, the Angel race, and Divine tier equipment for even better. You'd have to ask Brellin for precise feats.

Combine that with the exorcist class ability from Bravely Default that allows you to reset your mana to full at the end of every turn and you're only limited by how fast you can teleport between graveyards.

The only other mass resurrection I can think of would be epic DnD spells.

>>50898205
>>50898206
Not that guy but am I understanding this right? Void Slaves are basically Servants but instead of being from history they're just people from modern earth summoned to a fantasy world?

>>50898248
>epic DnD spells
Is there anything those can't do?

>>50898252
Not really. Void Slaves are summoned familars that are people. They can be from anywhere and have no contract binding them to the master.
>>50898264
stop you from being a nerd wiazard

>>50898252

Almost but not quite.Their currently living people summoned as familiars, and that get an ability from the contract (for lack of a better term). However all of the canon void familiars except the protagonists were from the fantasy world of the setting.

Not sure why there was one from modern Earth beyond 'plot'.

>>50898312
The dimensions are connected. It was probably going to come up pretty big in the light novels.

about to do economic investment. would you Folks recommend Implausible Strength or Unusual Size (Large) for a shark themed asset?

>>50898248
If I ever see Brellin in thread I'll ask. Until then, I'll go with DnD epic spells although I doubt it'll accomplish what I want without considerable work and time.

>>50898338
name:Precious

Beast
metal
Appearance: a Great white shark made entirely of gold With Large diamonds for eyes and Platinum teeth
Likes:Seafood,Hunting, killing
Dislikes:,Vegetables,
Properties:Burrowing Ability:entanglement,Flourishing Stocks

Microflation:Tangible:Fires off a few of its Extremely sharp Platinum teeth

Mezzoflation:Stock Shrinkage:Attacks cause a bleed effect that Deals damage over time,Does not stack, the more money you spend the more damage over time and the longer it lasts.

Macroflation:Growth Market:Boosts size and speed In proportion to the amount of money spent.

limit:PREDATORY:You know how sharks have a lot of spare teeth that pop back in whenever They wear out? With this All of his teeth pop out at once again retaining their configuration as they chase down and Savagely Maul The opponent Independently ,Effectively doubling biting power and providing new angles for attack, the more money spent The more sets of teeth are fired

>>50898333

I remember that. It's mostly the part where nobody else had a void familiar from Earth that seemed odd.

Although then again we only saw one of Brimir's familiars, and he probably had more than one. So Saito might not have been the only one from another world, and instead just the only one from this set.

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Kamen Rider Heisei: Kabuto

>Native 400
Seemed a pretty clear choice. I'd rather have a lot of potential than have the same powers sooner and require equipment. The stamina requirement isn't too irritating either as I have a tonne of stamina perks.

>Worm Biology
Notably gives me clock up and makes me appear as a big insect man some of the time. Will probably vaguely resemble a spider as I've ended up with a lot of spider stuff (notably from SMT and Skullduggery Pleasant).

>To Be Human
Is a pretty nice freebie that stops it becoming weird when I socialize with humans.

>Tangential Evolution 700
Makes Natives tougher and faster every time they take damage so is pretty much essential for native builds. Plus it gives access to stupid speed which on top of Arrowverse and my Sonic Retro build makes me absurdly fast.

>Speed Belt
Makes me automatically clock up when others do which I guess pretty much just serves to let me clock up without effort while in this setting.

>Sketchbook
Is an infinite sketchbook which is cool.

>Mysterious Notes 1000
Gives me some notes on giving people Worm powers which won't be instantly understandable but will let me give my allies a pretty serious upgrades.

Not a tonne to say about this build really as I largely just bought the background and it's two 600 CP options.

Not sure what I'd do in this setting either (other than trying to steal ZECT tech, possibly by joining them temporarily). Might go abroad after that, not sure how other countries are doing in this one. Feel like I'm a bit burnt out on spending jumps fighting giant bug guys.

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>>50898245
>Would something like a Dalek from Doctor Who, or a Terminator from Terminator work as a good analogy for this?
I don't really know how Daleks work (my watching of Doctor Who is pretty limited), but a Terminator might work as an analogy, yes.

Moreso those in the later ones, I guess? The ones that have learned to be human, but still have an overriding objective with no way to defy that.

>Does this mean they can't decide how to follow their Urge, or just that they have to follow it in some form?
Just that they have to follow it in some form.

They can choose how to follow it and use their own methods to accomplish it, but they can't ever go against it.

>Is it possible for an Akuma to have an Urge that's adaptable enough to be extremely unlikely to be rendered impossible, or does it have to be specific and limited enough for that to be a possibility?
It seems possible to make an open/broad enough Urge to make it extremely unlikely to be rendered impossible, yes.

Not sure if you can make it really "adaptable", because the Urge itself can't change. But you can basically give any objective that you can fit in one sentence to be their overriding directive. Like, examples are:
>To end the worship of Ahlat
>To serve the Sea That Marched Against the Flame
>To taint the blood of the Terrestrial Exalted with that of the Yozis
>Live my assigned role, to the service of Cecelyne
>To provide the Ebon Dragon with ultimate and final release
>Love, honor and obey the Ebon Dragon

>Also thanks again. I kind of realized that free will is a tricky concept, and not everyone agrees on what it even means. So figured I should ask.
No problem, happy to help.

>>50898505
If you can't change it then what happens if they complete the objective?

>>50898523
>>50898505
Oh sorry. I'm stupid and didn't read the earlier conversation.

>>50896023
my plan is to get The Ribbon Whirlwind from D&D and import it as a Kamui: - "This +3 padded armour bikini is composed of seven enchanted ribbons that whirl around their wearer’s body, constantly moving across her form at a distance of up to six inches. Though their movements always make it seem like the ribbons will reveal normally taboo areas, the enchantment of the garment ensures that, regardless of who is looking or how many people are present, the wearer will never show off any skin that she doesn’t want to, aside from her arms, legs, and face. When the wearer is viewed by large crowds, the swimsuit will simply cling tightly to her body, covering her entire torso, but usually the ribbons continue to float loosely."

Until then I will wear my costume from the Incredibles, useful and comfy.

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>>50898523
>>50898537
That's okay.

It's actually slightly different. Completing the objective is somewhat more merciful on the Akuma than it becoming impossible...

>Things are slightly easier for an akuma whose Urge is impossible because he has achieved its ultimate aims. If an akuma fulfills his Urge so successfully that it is impossible to act on it any further, then the Urge is said to be resolved.
>Rather than having an impossible Urge, the akuma now has no Urge at all, and while he can neither regain Willpower through acting on the prior Urge nor create a new Urge for himself, he will put forth no resistance when a servant of his Yozi masters arrives to perform the Investiture once again and give him a replacement Urge.
>An akuma who resolves his Urge fully replenishes his Essence pools as a result and recovers a number of Willpower points equal to his highest Virtue. This can exceed the akuma’s normal Willpower maximum and can even exceed 10.

Basically. They feel /really/ accomplished... And then just sit there and wait.

Might do something if they care about other things, or defend themselves from attack, but mainly they're just going to sit around. Since they no longer have purpose in life or ability to create a new one on their own.

>>50898592
Have you removed the fetish drawbacks yet?

>>50898592
I'm fine with it, sempai.

I mean, I honestly just don't give a shit either way but the arguments are repetitive and boring. If we put it on the drive then people will move on soon enough but if we don't then people are going to be posting it here and starting arguments for at least several weeks.

>>50896063
turning my warehouse into a nexus, and ensuring all the dimensions it connects to are full of kindness, comfy, and lewd.

>>50898644
Fuck off with that reasoning. Just talk about something else or leave rather then try to encourage this bullshit force it on the drive stuff.

How long has there been a chroma squad jump?

>>50898248
>Combine that with the exorcist class ability from Bravely Default that allows you to reset your mana to full at the end of every turn
How the fuck does that work?

Rest In Peace, Carrie Fisher.

Ffffffuck this year.

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>>50898705
It's just raining.

>>50898705
We don't even have a week left. Jesus Christ.

>>50898705
Eh, she was so hoppedup on drugs i'm amazed she lasted this long.

>>50898705
I fully expected it, but still. Not a great way for anyone to end the year.

>>50898592
Is it possible to learn how to use Ki without taking the ChampKion perk?

>>50898705
Tonight I shall bang Princess Leia in the SW jump. In her honor!

>>50898705
Wasn't Leia supposed to be in Parts 8 and 9? Are they just going to have to rewrite huge portions of the script now, and give her an off-screen death?

>>50898699
>At the end of each turn, your HP and MP will revert to the previous turn's values.
>*Effect will not trigger when K.O.'ed, or when it would cause HP/MP to be reduced.

It increases, but never decreases, your HP and MP to their values from the previous turn as long as you're not knocked out. Only works in combat.

Who know how long a "turn" lasts in real life, but just have a companion punch you before casting your spell and wait a couple minutes.

>>50898248
>Not familiar with Bravely Default
>Google it
>Exorcist gets something called Auto Undo, which when in use automatically resets your HP and MP to what it was last turn

I'm not familiar with the game mechanics, but that sounds crazy broken in-game.

>>50898830
Maybe they'll digitally remaster it so that Leia dies in the Force Awakens instead of Han and then beg Harrison Ford to come back.

>>50898851
Bravely Default loves its broken combos, yes. The only way you'll finish it.

>>50898851
It's the only way to beat the game.

>>50898841
>>50898851
>>50898874
>>50898912
Huh. I was completely unaware of all of this. Thanks anons.

>>50898505

>I don't really know how Daleks work (my watching of Doctor Who is pretty limited)

Basically their genetically programed to have a murderous hatred for all other life that isn't a 'pure Dalek'. To the point where everything they do when not 'defective' is attempt to exterminate all non Dalek life, and became a threat to all of existence in the process of attempting this.

>They can choose how to follow it and use their own methods to accomplish it, but they can't ever go against it.

So sort of like how the Ebon Dragon can't not be a jerk trying to escape?

>Not sure if you can make it really "adaptable", because the Urge itself can't change. But you can basically give any objective that you can fit in one sentence to be their overriding directive.

Adaptable might have been the wrong word. I was thinking less a changeable one, and more
one that is well 'extremely unlikely to be rendered impossible'. At least without stuff like death or an apocalypse.

For example something like 'Ensure the worship of the Yozi' or 'Teach that the rebel gods are not to be trusted'.

As far as I can tell there's absolutely no situation that could render those two examples invalid. They don't even require the continued existence of the yozi or the gods, or even Creation. There's probably other possibilities.

Also your Isidoros pic has me wondering something. The Lunar Akuma option gives them the perks of the Yozi.

So what happens if you or a companion gets a Lunar Akuma, and they pick Isidoros as the Yozi, or for an even weird example Oramus?

Both of those seem rather incompatible with the normal impossible to defy Urge idea. Well unless the Urge is something weird like "Do whatever the hell you want."

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>Okami fluff is good.
I'll admit that I was actually just trying to take inspiration from the DMC jump because they were both made by Kamiya and I liked the informal tone, but I didn't do a very good job because I didn't have the same passion Uncle Dante did. That's why all the perk names are silly. I kind of defaulted into long descriptions of how the powers work or talk of who/what the perk is based on with a few sarcastic remarks here or there.

>>50896918
It's one of the things I plan to do.

>>50898984
And I forgot to quote the anon who said it. >>50894037

>>50898592
I don't have a problem with it.

>>50898809
Yeah. Just spend a few weeks alternating between martial arts practice and meditating or something.

>>50898156
tenchi muyo

>>50898611
I can't help but feel like this is a stupid question, but if you take one of the drawbacks that make you something other than a GSP, do you still get your normal Exaltation at jump end?

If you do, how does having a non-Reclamation Yozi's Charmset available via A Bargain Made In Hell work with companion Infernals?

How dangerous is the scattered shadows scenario in the Anima jump?

>>50898705
It's not fair. It's just not fair.

>>50898705
Rest In Peace, Princess Leia. I really, really, fucking hate this year. It just won't stop until it's taken as many lives as it can.

>>50899517
4 more days, take your bets on who's next.

>>50899629
My bet's on Ian McKellan.

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>>50898982
>Basically their genetically programed to...
Ah, yes. That works as an analogy then.

>So sort of like how the Ebon Dragon can't not be a jerk trying to escape?
Very much like that. Though unlike him, they could be able to consider other things, but be unable to act on it.

>For example something like 'Ensure the worship of the Yozi' or 'Teach that the rebel gods are not to be trusted'.
Fair enough, Urges like those would be perfectly fine.

>Both of those seem rather incompatible with the normal impossible to defy Urge idea. Well unless the Urge is something weird like "Do whatever the hell you want."
It would seem so, but Isidoros does make Akuma. Self-contradiction is not particulary strange for Yozi.

Though an Oramus Akuma would still be very strange, yes. Mostly because Oramus is strange.

>>50899184
>I can't help but feel like this is a stupid question
Usually it'd be in the Notes, but I haven't added those yet, so not particulary...

>do you still get your normal Exaltation at jump end?
Yes. Unless for some reason you don't want it.

>If you do, how does having a non-Reclamation Yozi's Charmset available via A Bargain Made In Hell work with companion Infernals?
Their charmset would be automatically opened up for them too.

(And also for the other Infernals if you take a continuity drawback in a further Exalted jump. Do not expect that Yozi to be happy about it.)

>>50899687
Quick question, in the Infernals jump is Oramus' Mu perk shapeshifting or projecting an illusion?

>>50898200
How many space opera jumps do we have, anyway?

>>50898841
>>50898874
>>50898912
So since game classes aren't offered in the jump, I'm assuming you rule you can learn them in jump? I didn't see anything about classes in the notes.

>95)Highschool of the Dead
>Them

>Health Plan
>Brains...
>Three Steps Ahead
>Hands On Approach
>The Gunshow

>Democracy Under the Companions(Them, Health Plan)
>Aradia, Kanaya, Porrim, Terezi, Vriska, Aranea, Feferi, Meenah

>Damned Sexy
>Airborne
>Biohazard
>EMP

Hello. Please stop screaming. Yes, I'm a zombie, but I'm not going to hurt you. I'm only chose to incarnate as one of Them because then the drawbacks I selected for this life would help humanity.

Okay, that might bear a little explanation. Have you ever heard the Hindu myth of how Brahma offered Ravanna the choice of 100 incarnations as Rama's friend or 3 as his enemy before achieving enlightenment? It works kind of like that, but...

Ma'am, please, shooting me is clearly not working. You're just wasting ammo. Here... that's better. Just relax. My Zerg are already starting to corralle the zombies into mass execution groups so that I can quickly resurrect them all. But I need some humans around to help restore order, since everyone goes crazy like you did when they realize I'm a zombie.

You're real easy on the eyes by the way. Take my number, in case you want to forget about this whole thing for a while with me and one of my wives.

>>50899817
They're in the items section. You buy something called an asterisk and then you equip it to turn into that job.

>>50899687

Thanks. Also I just got curious about something.

Hypothetically what would happen if an Akuma learned (Yozi) Cosmic Principle? Like would the Yozi basically have an obedient Akuma primordial clone, or would the Cosmic Principle thing basically overwrite the Akuma thing.

>>50899817
Every single class in the game is used by equipping an Asterisk for that particular class.

It's a magpie's paradise. But no, the classes are in fact offered.

>>50899817
They are. You get jobs from asterisks. You can pick up a bunch in the item section and if you know where to look you can pick them up on your own. They work kind of like how ff5 jobs work in that once you practice the job enough you can use its abilities when the job isnt active.

>>50899817
See >>50899856
>>50899865
>>50899877

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>>50896876

In the bloodborne jump, can I take the doll as a companion? It's not mentioned specifically, even though you can buy the doll (or another doll) and the insight perk reveals the doll is alive, or at least has a consciousness, which should qualify her for companionship.

>>50899909
Import the Doll itself into Undertale as a Ghost possessed object.

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>>50899687
So what happens if you take the Morass (Metagaos' Manse) and try to install a geneforge into it? Or put in stuff for biotech or ways to grow cybernetics like flesh?

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What do people usually say about you jumpers?

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>>50899764
Somewhere in between, but mostly an illusion.

It's real to all senses, and you could become bigger or smaller with it. But turning yourself into something made of metal would not make you heavier or tougher, for example.

>>50899858
Hm. I'm not sure if Akuma can learn it... I'd /guess/ not, considering this.
>This Charm may not be learned through the Eclipse anima power or equivalent effects, save for Primordial Principle Emulation.

But if they could learn it, Cosmic Principle would likely give them an obedient Akuma-Yozi clone?

It doesn't look like they would gain a motivation or lose their Urge with these charms, unless Glory Incarnate does weird stuff with an Akuma's mind.

>>50900010
>try to install a geneforge into it?
You might screw up the geomancy if the Geneforge needs to be incorporated into the building, but otherwise it'd be fine?

>Or put in stuff for biotech or ways to grow cybernetics like flesh?
It can do biotech easily, though growing cybernetics like flesh is probably harder... But the plants of hell are made of metals, minerals, and stranger things. So it should be possible to work with it.

>>50900066
"How the fuck did he build a giant space station in two weeks?!"

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>>50899909
You could always Blue Feather her.

>>50899909
No. The Doll can't be taken in any way. Not through companion purchase, not through Blue Feathers, not through pods. Your disgusting creepywaifu has to stay in her awful nightmare universe where she belongs.

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>>50900095
>You might screw up the geomancy if the Geneforge needs to be incorporated into the building, but otherwise it'd be fine?
Right, so be extra careful.

One last question, what if we used SMT-style demon summoning inside of it, or had ways to give it demonic bodies or energies like Fel magic from WoW. Would it mutate the Manse/fuck up everything forever if Fel or other demonic energies started to get poured into it, or no? Also, are the materials inside replenishable/the vegetation able to be cultivated and planted elsewhere?

>>50900184
Pumping new and exotic energies into a Manse tends to be bad for it. Not necessarily catastrophic, it can adapt (especially a living Manse like the Morass), but it can disturb the geomancy like altering the physical structure does.

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>>50896063
Ungrimdark 40k has been my post-spark project since the first 40k jump was announced.

After that? Fuck, I dunno. Continue having adventures, and helping people. While setting up my own little "Utopia" Plane.

>>50898705
The year had to claim one more soul for the ritual to be complete.

>>50899629
I hear /pol/ was simultaneously trying to involve Meme Magic to kill the Queen of England to end the year, and to keep her alive until her sons are dead.

>>50899909
Pods work

>>50900066
"Why does he keep kicking me in the face?"

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>>50900066

"Oh yeah, I think I remember that guy."

>>50900265
>thinking the queen is mortal
top kek /pol/

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>>50900095
>You might screw up the geomancy if the Geneforge needs to be incorporated into the building
You know if you used Craft:Genesis as a basis you could probably create a Geomantic set-up that makes the Geneforge, and other Shaping equipment, more effective.

>>50900066
In Mundane Jumps:
>"Probably the best (Profession I'm working in) around right now. The symbolism gets a bit weird though."
In Non-Mundane Jumps:
>"I heard that serial killer struck again. It turns out that (Victim) was (Either secretly or not some variety of horrible person)."

>>50899877
>>50899865
>>50899856
Awesome, thanks again.

>>50900325
You're welcome!~

Now, imagine putting those through the Item World...

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I'm dropping the Lyrical Nanoha jump and it's update. Somebody else can update it or just replace it. I guess that means Up For Adoption?

Sorry.

>>50900380
Wait what.

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>>50900184
>One last question, what if we used SMT-style demon summoning inside of it, or had ways to give it demonic bodies or energies like Fel magic from WoW.
Not sure, fanwank something?

>Would it mutate the Manse/fuck up everything forever if Fel or other demonic energies started to get poured into it, or no?
Incorporating other energies into it would screw with the geomancy.

It can stabilize itself to not explode from that, and even renerate the damage... But if you mutate it /too/ much too quickly, it might not be able to keep those two powers active.

>Also, are the materials inside replenishable/the vegetation able to be cultivated and planted elsewhere?
The gathered Exotic Ingredients are not. But it can create biological artifact to substitute for many of those things. And everything else replenishes.

You can cultivate the vegetation and plant it somewhere else... but the parts of the Manse wouldn't work without the specific pattern or the demesne it is build upon.

So the vegetative machinery and vine-based automatic doors would likely die outside, as parts of the Manse.

>>50900304
Most probably, yes? Craft: Genesis is best Craft.

>>50900380
Sorry to hear. Is this really you?

If so, I volunteer. Still sad tho.

>>50900167
Dolls need love too. If you don't love them, you get a Bannette.

>>50900393
Craft: Genesis is pretty god damn awesome. Combining it with Geneforge Shaping just seems like the next logical step.

>>50900380
Please reconsider? Just take a break for a week or something.

>>50900399
If you need, I can upload the raw file for the old wip, or link my drive or something when I get home.

>>50900414
The jump was released over a year and a half ago. I'm not going to keep making mechanical promises to update a jump when it's never going to happen.

>>50900380
Between this, and the Worm and S&S updates never happening... Well fuck.

>>50900393
>those answers
Yeah, I'm not getting it then. A bit too delicate for what I'm looking for, but even then it was a tempting proposition. Sorry.

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>>50900066
>"He did it because he was bored and had nothing else to do."

>>50900419
Alright, I'll wait for that just for posterity. I'd genuinely feel bad if I went headfirst into this without a face-to-face talk on it or confirmation, anyways.

You helped get me into Symphogear and I loved a lot of the stuff you made. I'm sincerely thankful for that. Hope things go well for you, or become better soon if things are stressful. This has been a rough year.

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>>50900469
>Game Theory
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50900439
Getting real tired of your shit.

>>50900499
But. But it's not.
https://youtu.be/2MjWclM9EDc

>>50900439
Don't forget BC and MCU part 2 never happening.

>>50900524
....huh. Looks like an image that would be used for Game Theory.

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>>50900066

>>50900499
>In one picture she is nude
>In the next one she has a dress.

>>50900066
"That person sure was hot. Pretty damn loud, and obnoxious, though."

>>50900580
If you're a cloud-walking deity, then you own genocide-wear.

>>50900599
Or "They really are a good person...but I just can't stand how annoying and smug they are!"

>>50898592
It's fine as is, you satisfied most of the major issues and the remaining complaints are mostly just a few anons reeeeing about drawbacks because they have no sense of humor.

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>>50900462
It's no skin of my back.

Messing with the energies that power the whole thing is just something that Manses don't take too well to.

>>50900411
Indeed.


Unrelatedly, kinda trying to think of Scenarios and stuff they should offer to compare to the Blossom of Emerald Dawn.

...Which probably means something N/A if it's an artifact or something. Considering the Blossom really should be that rating with its status as a geomantic nexus.

So far I'm considering things like another version of Ebby's Wedding Band, granting one Yozi's charms. Or potentially your Devil Tiger's. or an old Titan-class aerial citadel (without Thousand-Forged Dragons) to follow you after you fix it up or an installation of reality engines that could create a new Elemental Pole... if it had a power source or /something/.

Do those seem somewhere in the same realm/something I should even be offering at all in a Scenario? It'd be a one-scenario-per-jumper restriction...


..Also thinking of having second set (of which you can also pick one) of smaller scenarios that can reward you with stuff like your lunar mate without having to pay in the Companions section or your personal pet akuma or something like that, in return for completing a bit less harsh scenario.

Which will probably be the main pool of Scenarios if the others above don't work.

>>50900066
>What the hell was that?

>>50900393
hey , is intense geomagnetic fluctuations appropriate for Omen weather? I saw this music video about the aurora borealis and it really resonated with me.

>>50900646
Yeah, those all sound pretty cool. The proto-Elemental Pole most of all, but they'd all be interesting.

>>50900646
Hey Mardukth, if you don't mind the question, which would work best as a hive-minded entity with multiple bodies, a third/second circle or a weird first circle?

>>50900646
seconding >>50900730 If only because I think I do in fact have a power source and a use for a proto-Elemental pole of Flux.

>>50900646
Holy FUCK those options sound awesome.

Both the big ones, and the small ones.

>>50900646
I love all those ideas, though I'm not exactly familiar with the setting. I get the Elemental Pole thing, the Ebon Dragon's Wedding Band, and the Lunar/Akuma companion options, but what's a Titan-class Aerial Cidadael? What's Thousand-Forged Dragons? What's a geomantic nexus?

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>>50900680
It's usually not that widespread and quite obviously magic/unnatural (and I'm not sure if geomagnetism is even a thing in Creation).

How are you envisioning it'd look?

>>50900730
Cool.

>>50900752
Both can work.

Teodozjia are 1st Circles with a hivemind, and Madelrada is sort-of a 3rd Circle hivemind but not quite (her soldier-selves are part of her, but I don't think they share minds).

So... 1st if you want multiple beings with their minds tied together, 3rd if you want one mind with many bodies.

>>50900795
Oh? Flux?

>>50900837
Excellent.


I'm also open to suggestions if there are any more.

>>50900646
I like the Wedding Band the most, though that might be because I don't get what creating an Elemental Pole would actually do on a practical level.

The Lunar Mate thing sounds ace, though I'm torn on the Akuma for mostly moralistic reasons. Then again, I could just give them the Urge to be themselves. Which probably won't work as well as I'd like, but c'est la vie.

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>>50900897
>It's usually not that widespread and quite obviously magic/unnatural (and I'm not sure if geomagnetism is even a thing in Creation).
>How are you envisioning it'd look?

like this, but more so. more colors, curves and moving like a the ocean on a windy day

>Oh? Flux?

One of my jumpers roles is that he is first and foremost a well-intentioned bringer of change.

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>>50900470
Time to get my mecha waifus and sad eyes.

>>50900066
>He's just this guy, you know?

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>>50900883
Thanks.

>but what's a Titan-class Aerial Citadel?
A massive flying fortress. Larger than many mountains, 4 miles wide normally, 8 miles when in siege mode, and a mile tall.

It's practically indestructable, has hundreds of essence cannons as turrets, a giant fuck-off laser it can fire down (one mile wide, basically annihilates everything), an impenetrable forcefield to shut everything out, an internal Factory-Cathedral to mass produce whatever artifacts it needs, and I'm probably forgetting stuff still...

It's been build to fight armageddon-level threats, or to go off into the Wyld and rebuild a new Creation elsewhere.

To quote the book:
>Dealing with the titan...
>Check out the traits of a fully functional Titan-class citadel.
>Yeah.

Yours would need some major repairs though.

>What's Thousand-Forged Dragons?
Magitech mecha-dragon-nukes that fuck up the geomancy in large area, basically.

Aerial Citadels are supposed to have 50 launch silos of them. Which is a /little/ nuts on top of everything else.

>What's a geomantic nexus?
Manses draw power from dragonlines (leylines), which converge in the demesne they are build upon.

If you combine Manses in a network, you route the power you would usually use to power those Manses towards a Manse built as a Geomantic Nexus.

The Transcendent Blossom of Emerald Dawn is connected to thousands of Malfeas Manses to allow it to do much, much more than a normal Manse ever could.

>>50900918
Give you a big, big font/location of elemental essence? But yeah, the Wedding Band is cool.

>Which probably won't work as well as I'd like, but c'est la vie.
Probably not, but we'll see.

>>50900978
>like this, but more so. more colors, curves and moving like a the ocean on a windy day
Having that around you/them seems fine.

>One of my jumpers roles is that he is first and foremost a well-intentioned bringer of change.
Well, yes. But I'm wondering what you'd power it with/do with it?

>>50900897
>So... 1st if you want multiple beings with their minds tied together, 3rd if you want one mind with many bodies.

I can work with that. Thanks!

>>50901240
>Give you a big, big font/location of elemental essence?
So wait. What would having a ton of Wood essence do?

>>50901240
Hmm...if the thing needs repairs, maybe have it require an extra challenge and/or more work if you want he Thousand-Forged Dragons as well? Or maybe instead of just getting the missiles, you get the schematics and you have to figure out how to actually...you know, make them?

I mean, it's fine if you just don't want to offer them period, but if possible I'd like to get my hands on the full package.

>>50901240
sometimes the universal order is such That things are either incredibly stagnant or the wrong deities are in charge.I intend to use this proto-Elemental pole of Flux to cause enough of an upset in the natural order that those in These positions can no longer maintain them.

>>50900897
>I'm also open to suggestions if there are any more.
Celestial Power Armor, redesigned for an Infernal
Maybe a Second Circle as a personal friend/companion?
An automatically re-supplying source of Vitriol?

Hm...

/jc, what is the best RPG stat system and why? I am thinking Fallout and WoD for some reason.

>>50901140

Since your here I have a few question about the Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines jump.

1. Does the Ghoul companion option let you pick a canon ghoul besides Heather, or are they just what you get if you don't get a non-canon one, or is it something else?

2. Are there any limits on who you can take if you take as a companion with 'A Group of People Who Aren't Assholes'?

3. If you take 'A Group of People Who Aren't Assholes' and pick someone that isn't a vampire can you combined them with the Ghoul option?

4. Is it possible to achieve golconda, or is that not a thing in this version of the setting? Yes I know that post-jump the benefits of that are kind of pointless, but I got curious.

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>>50901260
No problem, have fun?

>>50901272
You'd basically be recreating the Pole of Wood.

>The Elemental Pole of Wood made the East the most fertile quarter of Creation, and its Essence facilitated the creation and manipulation of new life forms.

>This close to the elemental Pole of Wood, the Haltan forest can be supernaturally lush, with large numbers of wood elementals.

>Few dwellers in Creation could survive a journey to the elemental poles, but those few have much to gain. Savants and craftsmen can gather samples of the pure element in untainted, undiluted form, to build great works of craft and sorcery. Just as the jade of the Imperial Mountain is the purest and most potent, no mortal flame can match the heat of the Pole of Fire, and no mortal herb can match the medical potency of one culled from the Pole of Wood.

>Creation’s Eastern limit is an eternal world of green thought and green shade. However far one climbs, one cannot reach the sky or the ground—nothing but trunks and branches, vines and smaller plants, going up and down forever. The very light is green, filtered down through countless leaves above.

>Animals and birds of living wood and leaves move silently through the foliage and among the trees. Giant serpents woven from vines and withies slither among the branches and between the roots, rising to swallow anything nearby.

>This is the pole of growing things and abundant life, where nothing dies except when it is eaten or assimilated into something else.


>>50901300
...That might work.

>>50901329
>Celestial Power Armor, redesigned for an Infernal
...The Belt of Infernal Battle Armor is basically that though? Could maybe try something going in another direction with a second...

>Maybe a Second Circle as a personal friend/companion?
That could work.

>An automatically re-supplying source of Vitriol?
Kind of already in the items section, but I could do something bigger? Like a lake of Vitriol to dissolve/baptize basically anything.

>>50901310
Ah, fair enough. Might be able to work something.

And the powersource?

>>50899909
No, surprisingly. I'm a bit confused about how this jump maker creates stuff because his jumps have been fairly different.

Dark Souls 1 and 2 jump: Kind of meh perks but a truly excellent companion section. I mean Priscilla, Solaire, and Sir Alonne? Its pretty awesome.

The Bloodborne Jump goes in complete reverse housing only a companion creation/import but in return has some ridicouslosy awesome perks and a capstone booster. Also it has no origins, just discounts and a gigantic list of scenarios that sadly only offer Eileen and Alfred as canon companions.

Now finally Dark Souls 3 which has both good perks and a good companion section along with a whooping 7 origins, each with their own perk line. But no capstone booster like Bloodborne and no big 500CP canon companion purchases like Dark Souls such as Nameless King or sister Friede

Don't get me wrong though, I love all of these and I think that NuBee is a wonderful jump maker. It just seems odd that there is such a big difference between the jumps is all.

Maybe he's waiting until the new DLC comes out before making any changes or updates.

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>>50900646
Oof. Nice. And yes, that does all sounds fitting. Especially with regards to that Adorjan drawback, knowing how keen she is on having her own elemental pole

>>50900918
Apart from what Mardukth said, the original ones in Creation were used to stabilise/define its' dimensional boundaries in a beyond-infinite expanse of narrative chaos. So if you want to impose things like stability and cardinal directions in somewhere like the Warp enough to build somewhere entire civilisations can live in, the Pole can help you there.

>>50901240
>rebuild a new Creation

wait what

they can do that

how

>>50901350
Stat systems are all terrible abstractions of actualy learning things that no more reflect true prowess than a map reflects an actual territory.

>>50898592
I still think the mandatory drawback for no points on Player Two in unnecessary and punitive because you will also have to take additional drawbacks to afford the complete gamer power.; let it give its points please.

The Gamer's Party needs [discounted Player Two] for additional purchases so someone could buy it enough to support a Gamer's Guild (which would need 5-10+ purchases)

Maybe let Guild Up combo with Gamer's Party to let you add your companions to the Party system without actually taking up a party slot?

Player Two does not have any higher level item discounts; just the 100 CP items. Maybe add discounts for the Abysss Auction accounts and Anchored Barrier so there is an item discount from each of the 4 other backgrounds.

>>50901489
Universal adapter from storm Hawks+plug-and-play from Kamen Rider Neo-Heisei Part 1+ paragon resource generator+ dark star generator of course.

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>>50901476
...so I'm going to be wanting this. You said this was going to be a possible scenario reward? So it wouldn't cost anything to actually go into the scenario?

I'm going to plant it in the Seedbed of Chaos.

>>50901533
So, plant demons forever, then?

>>50901533
The new generation of demons will revere you as a folk hero anon. Basically like a mix of Jesus and Paul Bunyan.

You okay with this?

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>>50901533
YOU FOOL! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!

>>50901527
Originally, the powerless one was the only option, and it did give cp, but to to the 1st/2nd jump clause it has, it was decided to give no cp for 'fairness'. I'll consider it.

Gamer's party has 'Gamer's' in the name, so it IS discounted to player two. Also, it's kinda bright blue...

Interesting. Noted.

Honestly, I probably shouldn't have given the basic spells to the gamer. It's a very skill based power, not an item one. Noted, but unlikely.

>>50900066
"I heard they were dead."

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>>50901533
You're crazy, a mad man! I like it!

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>>50901367
1) You get a ghoul companion of your description. So the first time you enter the hospital there's a dying person there you can feed blood and the nature of that person is down to what you choose when making the decision. Default is Heather but if you'd rather rescue and ghoul a cheerful car mechanic or a busty Olympic weightlifter to take as a companion that's your prerogative.

Heather a cute though.

2) No but maybe there should be and that was a bit of an oversight. Having said that the more powerful players in the WoD are not usually people you'll want to take with you.

3) No, you can take a non vampire but the options are separate.

4) Maybe, it's given a sort of mythical status in setting but there's nothing to say it's not possible. It is hard though, may be exceptionally difficult to do in 10 years and as you said it's not particularly useful given the weaknesses leaving you post jump.