EDH/Commander General

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1st for What's the most fun commander you have ever built?

>>50875205
>Just how good/cancerous is your playgroup? Do you wish you had another or are you fine in the one you're in?
they are ok. me and my buddy who have been playing magic for forever and 2 guys who just started playing this year. i wish i had another play group with people who were willing to spend more money on it, it gets a little boring playing against budget decks that never really get anything good in them

Not explicitly commander related but can you specify a specific basic land art on tapped out or just the set.

>>50875205
>Show me your playgroup Edition
No.

>Just how good/cancerous is your playgroup?
The best guy left a few months ago. The rest are 2 wanna be spikes and a piece of shit whos decks are cheap and dont interact with the board at all. I basically spend all my time removing threats. I hate it now.

>>50875377
That's a matter of opinion but I think my playgroup really likes the "romance of the three kingdoms" decks I made for us to use. Personal favorite out of those Comes down between Lubu and Lady Zhurong...and I'm not sure if I could choose between them because they are both super fun to play in their own way.

>>50875205
>looks at image

I'd rather spend time playing MTG instead of having to do homework for you Anon.

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>>50875205
Alright, I'll bite.

>Just how good/cancerous is your playgroup? Do you wish you had another or are you fine in the one you're in?

They're all terrible players, but my LGS only has turbo-tryhard spikes, so they're the best I've got.

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/its-exactly-what-you-think/

r8 my Phenax bullshit, thanks. If anything obvious looks like it's missing, it's probably because of budget reasons.

what's the best artifact recursion for grixis colors? even returning it to my library will work

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>>50876011
Look at some Breya decks on tapped out. They run some good stuff.

Also, Trading Post.

>>50875377
Braids seamonster deck is my favorite deck on a budget (I got omniscience in a draft)

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/braids-sea-monster-slam-jam/

My Phage deck is the most fun because I splurged to get the deck in order

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/you-gonna-get-touched/

I have to say that Braids is the most satisfying general to win games with because nobody expects you to shit out massive seamonsters and ruin their day

12th for discord circlejerk

https://discordapp.com/invite/rk3vgtg

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>T1 Trinisphere
>T2 Lodestone Golem
I am not a nice man

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1st for all I want for Christmas is for Braids, Cabal Minion to be legal in group EDH.

And come January it still won't be.

Someone hold me.

>>50876429
I'm sure you could find a group that'll allow banned cards.

>>50876602
This.

Make a case with your playgroup to allow banned cards.

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>>50875377

I like wort,bogart auntie

>>50876429
Yeah I can allow braids in EDH.

But not as your commander. Fuck that.

That feel when half your cards are somewhere else and you didn't pay attention to the legendaries you had

>>50876070
That Braids deck looks real fun.

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>>50876803
yea boi

Time for that guy story

>Be only blue player at the table
>two combo decks and a vampire player opponents
>durdle about with bouncing a etb tapped land from the nekusar player until i draw into a counter to stop his wheels with venser and riptide lab
>vampire player tries to strip mine my riptide
>stifle it
>he proceeds to then throw all his removal and swing at me every turn he gets
>tell him he should worry about combo players
>he says i'm being obnoxious by telling him what to target and that i'm the person at the table preventing him from playing cards, mind you the only counter i used on him was stifling an effect targeting my land
>use removal on his shit
>combo player combos off and kills vampire player

Dipshits with terrible threat analysis just astound me. Did he legitimately not know that Scion and Nekusar are combo decks or was he that much of a troglodyte to see red when I didn't let him pop my lands?

>>50875526
It's tricky to pull off but I think you can do it.

How was your Christmas lads? I hope yours was splendid.

I pulled a Masterpiece Painter's Servant from one of the packs my bro got me, so that was nice. Too bad it's not EDH legal though.

>>50877758
tunnel vision is a hell of a thing, anon. People get weird when you fuck with their shit

Sup dudes, filthy casual here looking for some help.

I run a stock standard Open Hostility deck, and for Christmas my roommate gave me a bunch of his spares so I could fix it up. Problem is, I have no idea what to get rid of. Help please? Here's what he gave me:

Elvish Mystic
Llanowar Wastes
Primal Wastes
Karmic Guide
Swords to Plowshares
Martial Coup (shiny)
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
Wear/Tear
Overwhelming Stampede
Pyroblast
Rakdos Charm
Purphoros, god of the forge
Hammer of Purphoros
Armed/Dangerous
Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
Victimize
Night's Whisper
Necromancy
Animate Undead

>>50877758
some people don't have good situational awareness all it takes is for combo decks to push their shit in for them to learn.

The smart person at my table targeted me when I was playing my Saffi deck and everybody else was durdling around.

Then I combod Saffi, sun titan and milled everybody out. your guy sounds inexperienced.

>>50878045
Sorry, I meant Primal Rage, not Primal Wastes

>>50877895
How?

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>>50875377
No contest

>>50876803
What is this? Daretti, Ragnar, Kami of the asscrack, Chandra, Isamaru? Can't figure ot the girl with glasses (unless it's Jaya Ballard) and the blue chick with white hair.

Can anyone tell me of other cards games which require/support 3-4 players?

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>>50877758
I'll share one as well

>5 man game
>that guy is playing a precon Kalemne
>plays a boardwipe, think it was earthquake, with only 3 creatures out and on turn 4 of all things
>later in the game everyone has an established board besides him
>his turn comes and he plays fumiko ehile controlling only fumiko
>everyone else doesn't want to lose their creatures since we're all pretty much even so they swing at kalemne guy
>he gets pissy and claims everyone is picking on him

I could go on about that guy but that's the most recent game involving him

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My friend made me a Naya deck for Christmas with the partners. I haven't played it yet but I think it looks pretty nice.

>Show me your playgroup
I'm green/[other] though frequently mono green, mostly just a timmy.

My friend's mainly green too but he branches out a lot more often.

Most of the rest of the people in our playgroup are some flavor of control.

>>50878760
This doesn't even sound bad. What gives?

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>>50878760

>overhear argument between local That Guy and someone he's playing EDH with
>That Guy claims that Possibility Storm is a really fun spell
>When asked why he's running it in his deck, he says 'because it's fun!'
>He's running 'upgraded' Yidris
>From playing with him prior, I know he's also running Knowledge Pool

Why do people find removing all strategy from the game fun?

>last thread, people said slow duals are good in EDH
>other threads, people have said slow duals are trash

help

>>50879528
Careful now, one of the resident autists with his tier chart will call you a faggot for implying that chaos isn't the pinnacle of EDH.

I think they do it because they're bad and chaos gives them an excuse not to win. Same with kingmaker group hug players.

>>50879528
People like him are playing a different game than everyone else sitting at the table.

Anyone else really wish they'd make a ninja commander that can ninjistsu from the command zone?

New to commander, are all decks supposed to feel like half the turns you aren't doing anything or is my deck just bad?

>>50879673
Depends on the deck. Does it require alot of colors? Is it a fast or a controlling deck? You can figure this out for yourself.

>>50879673
The first two turns aren't generally too important in an EDH game, and past your first two land drops it's functionally an old dual, so...

Pls print me B/G slowland wizards

This is my first deck, can someone please take a look at it?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/s-i-t-t-i-n-g-w-a-i-t-i-n-g-w-i-s-h-i-n-g/

>>50880643
Why no Koskun Falls?

>>50880717
What would you swap it out for? And if I'd go harder on the pillowforting, whoukdn't I put in sphere of safety as well?

>>50880803
Serra Ascendant, because it's a bullshit card that should've been banned in the format years ago and I'd punch you for playing it

>>50880816
But anon, otherwise it would just collect dust, it's not like it's playable in any other format.

Other cards I could swap out?

>>50880822
Cryptolith Fragment perhaps
>turn 1 baneslayer slayer because lol edh
Stay classy, white

>>50880842
The draining is really damn useful though. It never flips but when I get it out decently early it often does 10 damage around the table. I mostly play 4 and 5 player games, so it does tons and tons of work.

Not to mention that using magister sphinx on myself when everyone is below 10 to style everyone to death is enormous disrespect, which makes my table salty as hell.

I realize that I sound like "help me edhg, what should I swap? Oh not that one though, that one is good" but both of these cards have proven themselves very well.

>>50879499
Fumiko forces people to attack.

If they attacked each other, they would lose their creatures. So they attacked the guy with Fumiko, and he got mad.

He was just bad at explaining it.

>>50879528
Possibility Storm and Knowledge Pool are really fucking annoying, but they do not remove all strategy from the game at all, they just change it up.

I win pretty much every game someone casts a Possibility Storm as I start repeat casting creatures until I hit Teferi.

>>50879687
spoken like a true level 1

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>>50875910
>The Meathead's hair

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I'm making a「Scary Monsters」deck, I'll probably have Saskia as my general.
Recommend me some super creeps.

>>50881440
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=29850

>>50876070
Dude, this Braids deck looks really cool.
Is it good? Do you manage to win often?

What are some good beaters for yidris?

>>50877128
that looks like a fun play group, kinda jelly

>>50881809
Consuming Aberration and Lightning Reaver

>>50879673
fast duels only matter on turn 1 or 2 and even then the chances of you actually putting them to use is next to nothing most of the time unless you run really low on the curve. if you just happen to have fast duels from other formats or more money than sense use them but if not you wont really notice a difference. its not like anyone even really does anything in edh for the first like 5 turns anyway

>>50880643

Add Blind Obedience for the Extort triggers.

>>50881905
Swapped for what?
For authority of the consuls?

Marches-anon here from a few days ago.
Initial draft of (probably) a shitty deck looking for feedback and advice.
Thanks all!
Deck: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/queen-marchesa-v10-1/

>>50881830
>lightning reaver
Holy hell that's cool af, thanks

>>50879687
I think Knowledge Pool is fun to shoot instants in to flash creatures, I'll ask the shop when I finish the deck

>>50881136
Don't you have another meme chart to design to justify your awfulness?

>>50880438
It depends on the style of deck you run. If you've stacked your deck with answers and want to be prepared for any attacks, it would fit the bill. Kruphix is sort of like that. Play defense until you've banked enough mana to pop off.

>>50882058
>>50879687
>there are people in this thread that not only take the chart seriously but are still butthurt from the last thread when it was jokingly posted

Good lord you people are sad.

>>50882136
Actually it's more like my deck is half pillowfort/O-ring enchantments for 3-5 mana. I just don't know what cheaper options for a similar effect I should include (Zedruu)

>>50877128
I have tasigur, is it that great? I also have yasova dragonclaw but I love my wife

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>>50875205
this took me like 30 minutes to make in MS paint

holy fuck im bored

>>50882234
I have a few suggestions for pillowforting in those colors if you'd like to hear. Even in aggro decks, I think a solid defense is a valuable part of long term games. Look into crawlspace, ghostly prison, norn's annex, propaganda, collective restraint, dissipation field, and aurification. Do you have a deck list? What are some of your win cons?

>>50882319
Do you have any tips for Bruna? I've had one that I've been meaning to rebuild for a while. It's always been inconsistent so I took it out of service.

>>50882325
Haven't transferred my decklist to computer yet, but I use Ghostly prison and Propaganda.

I'm still working on getting good wincons, but presently Laboratory Maniac (w/ Thought Lash), Felidar Sovereign (which never works and I'll probably replace him), Words of War, Transcendence in a pinch, Shared Fate, and some stealing/chaos effects like Thieves Auction.

>>50882388
i basically just stuff the deck witha bunch of board wipes, self milling cards, tutors, and aura. the rest of it is pretty much just some spot removal and low drop creatures that get value from enchantments. everyone know that if i get attacked ill just board wipe so they stay away from me most of the time. the whole idea is to get your auras anywhere but in your library and try to make sure you get indestructible and an unblockable enchantment out. eldrazi conscription is basically your game ender and that one blue enchantment that give you infect

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>>50875205
>Show me your playgroup
I'm not filling out the summary for each deck and all that shit.

We also have the 20 Infect Rule but thats our only houserule.

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>>50875205

>>50882450
I really like stealing effects in a deck like that. It gives you more options for political play. For example, you'll be able to ally yourself with someone by giving him a permanent you stole from the threat on the board. I'd take out Felidar Sovereign unless you have intense life gain. It paint a target on you, and most people consider a win with cards like that aren't 'true' victories. Are you playing group hug? If not, I'd replace Shared Fate with Rhystic Study. It gives you better draw power for cheaper and doesn't help your opponents. How does the deck stand when it comes down to the final two? Pillow forting is great, but it'll be hard to pull out a win if you deck doesn't have any teeth to it.

>>50882591
>Self proclaimed only spike player in group
>Only plays blue decks

Checks out, how much fun does everyone else have?

>>50882694
Probably not very many since the infect house rule seems to specifically benefit his matchup against Atraxa.

>>50882591
Why do people like you even bother with EDH?

>>50877046
thanks senpai!
>>50881619
I do! I play it more casually and I have cards like timesifter in there in case people are running goodstuff decks. people don't try to kill you because braids allows them to play a card or two for free. You combo Great whale, capsize, extraplanar lens, and Mind's Desire and shit out your entire deck on the board/gain infinite life with kraken's eye. You are welcome to give it a try, it doesn't break the bank.

>>50882226
>there are people in this thread who take anything against them seriously, but insist everything they do is all for larks

Hurr

>>50875377
Gitrog or Rasputin. Gitrog, because it's basically a hermit Druid deck where my Druid is in the command zone + dredge is insanely busted. Rasputin, because it's draw-go control/permission that finishes with an eleborate yet elegant combo.

>>50876260
But you're my kind of man. Prison and taxes are the best way to bend a group to your will.

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>>50881440
This is probably the closest you could get to 「Scary Monsters」

>>50882226
what chart?

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My mom wanted me to tell my "online commander friends" that she's a part of the "club" too.

She bought a precon, mat, dice, sleeves, box, dice bag, etc.

She's practiced for quite awhile and has been borrowing my decks to play with my brother and i, (and our friends!).
She's going to try to get my dad into it too,
should I be worried?

She's playing gisela in place of kalemne.

>>50883084
thats pretty cool anon, i wish my parents would give it a shot instead of telling me to stop wasting money on "stupid card games" even though i make more money than both of them combined

>>50883084
>Gisela
Your mom has godlike tastes, encourage the fuck out of this anon.

be worried, you know thats how parents stop their daughters from being sluts and twerking
Instead of condemning what is cool and putting an end to it, they choose to engage in what is "cool"
By engaging in that behavior their children get burned out and then their parents don't have to worry about unplanned pregnancies
Just be aware that your mother may be trying to engage in this game in order to get you to go outside more.
But if you are aware of the method, it doesn't work so well

>>50883084
also your mom is hot, would bang and be your new daddy

>>50883084
Would play against

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Gentlemen, question for you. When "Crowning" a deck what do you do for cards that either do not have a foil or a foil is simply not available (I.E. you can't seem to find it anywhere).

>>50883185
Use the coolest sleeves you have, get foreign versions if you're into that and get the version of that card with the best artwork if you don't already have it.

>>50883185
One of two things:
>high quality full proxy
Or
>most expensive and nicest version you can find.

Can't get a foil version of an old card? Get the NM alpha version. Oh it's $450? I'm sorry, I thought we were pimping our decks not playing the sand box in our new dresses.

>>50883220
fair
>>50883223
haha, yeah fair nuff. I ask this question because last night I decided I was going to Crown my Lu Bu deck after seeing that all 5 of the swords are going to get masterworks now and wanting an excuse to get them. My concern is that things like Masterwork of ingenuity and Lu bu himself don't have foils

>>50883298
Lu Bu does have a nice Prerelease version though, which I have and use So I figured that counted.

>>50882693
Shared Fate is in my experience fucking amazing in Zedruu. Screws up enemy strategies and allows me to steal enemy wincons for myself. I need to refine my manabase to support it better though, less "regular" dual/triple lands and more City of Brass shit. Plus if they decide to take permanents from my deck, they only give me more Zedruu brownie points.
>How does the deck stand when it comes down to the final two?
Very badly. It's mostly a slugfest of an unarmed pillowfort vs. an enemy slowly whittling me down.

>>50882946
Not gonna lie, super tempted to give it a whirl. Might nab some of the stuff from my half built Sun Quan and see how it rolls with a few clone effects added in.

>>50876070
Mirin that braids deck senpai.

>>50883084
>new player that uses sleeves
She's already 2 years ahead of newbies in my group

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>>50878613
Do you have this in the deck?

>>50883708
If nothing else I would for the sake of Brion throwing a WOLF IN A MECHSUIT at people.

>>50883117
Same, irks me to no end.

>>50883084
The best part of it is that she now may give you EDH-related gifts. And you will always have at least two other people to play with.

>>50881926

Luminarch Ascension

>>50883960
Not that guy, but I think making 4/4 angels whenever you want for 2 mana, is better than draining everyone for 2 and gaining some life for 2 mana.

>>50882946
Thanks, friend.
I was wondering what to build for my 2nd commander deck, and well, now I know!

>>50884051

So, remove Bloodchief Ascension?

>>50884454
There's a reason that it's 6 bucks, it's a very good drain card.

Honestly, blind obedience seems unnecessary just for the extort trigger.

Working on a Dimir Ninja tribal with Vela at the helm, anything special I should consider?

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What's the point of putting wheel effects in Yidris decks? I really don't get it.

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I wanna build a deck with all the crazy color hate stuff from way back when. What would be the best general for it?

>>50884540
no idea but that sounds like a cool idea

>>50884540
Rite of replication is a straight 30 life loss for your opponents if you kick it on Vela.
Also use lots of creatures with ETB effects but that's obvious (I personally love Nekrataal because you can have it deals First strike damages and then Ninjutsu it with a ninja and get the normal damages)

>>50884568
It's a chaotic play and fuel grave strategies and also gives draw for more spells to cascade.

>>50884671
Well okay, but that doesn't has much to do with the commander. You could as well just put in card draw.

>>50884720
I do run both. You can always play all card draw and drain effects like Psychosis Crawler. I like the wheels because I get to fuck around each player's hands and to use stuff like Nath.

>>50884720
It serves as cheap explosive card draw to keep your feed your engine resources while storming off.

>>50884739
>>50884751
Alright, makes sense.

>>50881000
>Possibility Storm is on the field
>The only strategy you have to get rid of it is to chuck spells until you randomly hit enchantment removal from the top of your library
>You can't plan around anything in your hand until it's off the table, because nothing in your hand will resolve

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Yo what do you guys do when you run outta steam. I've done all i find fun in edh. Creature combo, birthing pod stuff, reanimator, graveyard recursion, I've done hard mono blue control and stax and I just cant find anything fun anymore...

I don't want to stop playing but I'm getting really bored

>>50884751
>keep your feed your engine
holy shit it's 3:30 in the afternoon why am I typing like it's 12 hours from now

>>50884792
take a break for a month or two

>>50884792
Mono blue aggro

>>50884792
Take a break or start borrowing other people's decks, new perspectives go a long way towards making the game fun. Hell, even tweaking an established concept goes a long way.
Take reanimator for example, what if you played it for value not combo or vice versa?

>>50884977
I just got off a break thats the thing that sucks

>>50885219
that sounds silly

>>50885247
If my group was large enough to borrow decks I would but its a pretty small scene. I've played all flavors of reanimator.

>>50884792
play other formats

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>>50883084
That's cool anon. I wish you all happy family times! And gisela is one of my favorite commaders.

>>50875377
Shu Yun threaten tribal in a craw wurm meta!
"Traitorous Instinct your Darksteel Colossus, pay RR to give it double strike, swing?"

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>that platinum angel

Forgive my slowness I've been with family these past 72 hours.

What are some good ramp spells for a yidris deck trying to get fatties on board?

>>50880014
Derevi, but it's an EoT ninjutsu instead of combat

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>>50875377
Gisela. It's really fun doing 2x,4x, or 6x damage. I should really remake that edh someday.
>>50885673
The art is so good.

Thanks to the masterpieces, I learned that Defense Grid was a card that existed

That shit is going straight into Wydwen Flash.Dec

>>50883185
I usually seek out alternate/supplemental art.

>>50884579
Oh hey I had that same idea. I am gonna build it some day with Child of Alara at the helm so that the commander is hate too.

>>50883084
Is she single?

>>50885463
The best things in magic are silly.

>>50886047
The effect is symmetric.

Making a bestow deck would you wreck it?

>>50886748
wreck it meaning?
if by wreck it you mean take the deck apart probably yeah

>>50886748
>a bestow deck
Not for a 100-card singleton format.

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There has been some chatter lately about Nath so I decided to take a crack at a possible Nath Elfball deck I may try in the future.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nath-elfball-2/

Any advice?

Narset build that doesn't abuse timewalk effects?

>>50885463
Mono R or Rx creature agro. Channel your inner Timmy! That's what I do when I get bored. IOr take a break from Magic altogether. I go binge on Diablo or Gears of War whenever I'm bored or there's no good sets coming out.

So if I have season of the witch and silent arbiter, then all creatures that didn't attack are destroyed but with propaganda or ghostly prison and season of the witch they don't right?

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Anyone have a hatebears list for pic related?

>>50887516
Master of Cruelties.
58 other hatebears.
40 lands of your choosing.

Bam, done.

>>50883708
Sorry, no. While it's a cool idea, I prefer to have my deck functional. So far it's been really flexible and won several games pretty nicely.
Faith's Reward is definitely a gamechanger.

>>50882319
>No red
What's your excuse, boyo?

1x Atraxa, Praetor's Voice
1x Arcane Sanctum
1x Breeding Pool
1x Canopy Vista
1x Command Tower
1x Drowned Catacomb
1x Exotic Orchard
1x Flooded Strand
2x Forest
1x Glacial Fortress
1x Godless Shrine
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Hinterland Harbor
1x Hissing Quagmire
1x Island
1x Isolated Chapel
1x Lumbering Falls
1x Opulent Palace
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Plains
1x Polluted Delta
1x Prairie Stream
1x Reflecting Pool
1x Sandsteppe Citadel
1x Seaside Citadel
1x Shambling Vent
1x Stirring Wildwood
1x Sunken Hollow
1x Sunpetal Grove
1x Swamp
1x Temple Garden
1x Vivid Creek
1x Vivid Grove
1x Vivid Marsh
1x Vivid Meadow
1x Watery Grave
1x Windswept Heath
1x Woodland Cemetery
1x Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
1x Ajani Steadfast
1x Dovin Baan
1x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1x Elspeth, Sun's Champion
1x Elspeth Tirel
1x Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury
1x Garruk, Apex Predator
1x Garruk Wildspeaker
1x Gideon Jura
1x Jace, Architect of Thought
1x Jace Beleren
1x Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
1x Kiora, the Crashing Wave
1x Liliana Vess
1x Narset Transcendent
1x Nissa, Vital Force
1x Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath
1x Ob Nixilis Reignited
1x Sorin, Grim Nemesis
1x Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1x Tamiyo, Field Researcher
1x Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
1x Teferi, Temporal Archmage
1x Tezzeret the Seeker
1x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1x Venser, the Sojourner
1x Vraska the Unseen
1x Doubling Season
1x Humility
1x Oath of Gideon
1x Oath of Liliana
1x Oath of Nissa
1x Pernicious Deed
1x Austere Command
1x Bring to Light
1x Call the Gatewatch
1x Deploy the Gatewatch
1x Farseek
1x Nature's Lore
1x Regrowth
1x Savor the Moment
1x Skyshroud Claim
1x Temporal Mastery
1x Terminus
1x Tezzeret's Gambit
1x Wargate
1x Chromatic Lantern
1x Coalition Relic
1x Contagion Engine
1x Fellwar Stone
1x Nevinyrral's Disk
1x Prismatic Geoscope
1x Sol Ring
1x The Chain Veil
1x Brainstorm
1x Cyclonic Rift
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
1x Peacekeeper
1x Spike Weaver

>>50888031
Stop posting forever, please.

>>50888031

So it's... Atraxa superfriends?

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>>50888031

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>>50888031
I hope you get a Heart Attack.

>>50888073
I tried making it more original. Don't want to be the guy playing a netdeck Atraxa list

>>50888115
Going subtle with the trolling there I see.

Is Vela ninjas fun? I was looking over the Planechase Anthology I got, and they look like tons of fun. I don't expect to win with them. Just drain a lot with Vela and move shit back and forth between my hand.

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>group despises my nekusar deck and kills me any chance they get
>dismantle it due to the hate and build kaervek from the remains along with new some new additions to make it an eldrazi subtheme
>group claims its too powerful after I pull off the jank combo of chandra's ignition + basilisk collar + viscious shadows to win and I should be banned from playing kaervek

>>50888221
Sounds like a shit group. I fail to see how you are at fault here. I would bring the most disgusting stax list you can afford and make them cry for real

>>50888221
How about you show them some leovold fun ? :^)

>>50888115
Well you failed.

>>50888177
I'm working on the same thing. As an FYI, there are very few good leave the battlefield effects.
Thalakos Seer is the only one worth speaking of.
Also, Ambuscade Shaman is fun, since it gives all your Ninjas enough of a boost that they are more likely to survive instant speed burn.

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>>50888358
>Thalakos Seer is the only one worth speaking of.
wut?

>>50880438
It took me a year to realize I like mana rocks. If you have things in hand that are too expensive to cast, gut your deck, put in mana producing artifacts, and then one at a time add back in those cards you like the best and play games to test in between.

>>50887303
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/open-palm-closed-fist/

Here you go, pal. In my experience, it can still get oppressive, but people can still have fun playing against it.

>>50879673
They were responding to me. I run mono or two color decks so its not as important for me. If you're running 3 or 4 color decks, good lands are a necessity.

You'll want at least 5 non basic lands you're really crazy about though. Most decks have like 8-15 non basic lands I guess.

>>50888429
Actually, probably should run more lands. Stuff like Crypt of Agadeem that will crank out mana mid-late game AND then more early ramp.

And you can play artifacts AND lands on the same turn, but you can only put out ONE land. Get to like 8 mana ASAP. That's my two cents anyway.

>>50879673
Using a few slow dual lands is ok. I usually limit it to only 1-2 of them, any of the just enters tapped and gain life ones. Or you could just get amulet of vigor and not give a shit about slow lands

>>50888429
Mono color nonbasics are vastly different from duals. Mono nonbasics usually have a utility to warrant playing

>>50888394
Given that you tack on 1-5 for the Ninjutsu cost, yeah, any CMC above three is a bit much.
You want cheap unblockables, and while Nevermaker does have some evasion, it's not really cheap enough to be repeatedly castable. But I focused on that aspect of Vela Ninjas, you do you.

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>>50875205
Goddamn this took too long.

Not pictured:
Me: Yidris (mostly stock)
Trashman: Roon, Nekusar, Talrand, Newzuri
Diaperdick: Breya (mostly stock)

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should've called it /soc/ edition

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>>50879528
>possibility spell
>not an extremely powerful, disruptive spell in Ydris
You must be retarded.

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>>50881381

>>50888394
I love this card, one of my "strongest" casual decks was this with Galepowder Mage and Venser.

>>50884785
It's still strategy.

You can look at your hand, think of which cards you are most likely to benefit from the most, and cast those spells.

Say you have 2 creatures in hand and only 3 more creatures in your deck. Then you are way more likely to control which one you hit than casting a random sorcery when you run 15.

I absolutely fucking hate possibility storm, but it doesn't remove all strategy. It just changes the approach.

>>50887977
i just dont find red fun to play in EDH. i have decks that have red in them but they generally take a back seat to the other colors because red isnt really that great out side a few cards imo

>>50888221
What a shit group. What do they even play?

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>>50888603
>hey faggot, hope you like goblins

i dont know why this made me laugh

>>50884785

What you're missing is that the player who casts it can build his or her deck with the strategy of only or mostly running cards that are less hampered by possibility storm, and rely on the fact that most of his or her opponents will be using cards that require precision and are therefore ruined by possibility storm

>>50879687
Chaos performs best against combo. The only people that fervently dislike it are the ones whose decks it hoses most often.

>>50880842
>bitching about a White card
>ever

>>50875910
too many house rules for my, other than that it looks cool
>>50877128
7/10
>>50882319
comfy/10 you should buy the asian dude a precon
>>50882591
you seem like the type of player that would make me stop coming to the play group
>>50882658
7/10
>>50888603
honestly 10/10, would totally play with
>>50888802
6/10

>>50888603
>Timmy
>signature cards crypt and necro

Wow made me think

>>50889518
>6/10
ouch

I opened a pack of Eternal Masters and pulled a Shardless Agent. Worth a slot in Edric? It's mostly just simic goodstuff.

>>50889609
kys tripfag

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vintage memes edition

>>50889721
I'm stealing the idea of the guy with the three red commander

>>50889721
>Kraj
What else do you run besides aforementioned combo in it?

>>50889821
Ooze tribal

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>Magical Christmas Cash Infusion letting me finish my artifact deck

>>50889821
It was a really bad deck

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>>50889552
Alright, in hindsight I probably should have put myself down as Spike/Timmy. My endgames tend to be Timmy's wet dream, but the route there is full of Spike cards doing Spike shit.

>>50889873
>not buying 3D sex

>>50889721
You all look miserable to play against desu

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/miss-steal-your-girl-1/
my gimmicky Yasova deck, am I missing anything obvious before I order it?

>>50875377
Probably either Kaalia or the perennial "not actually a legendary" Ink-Treader Nephilim.

Ink-Treader's great because somehow nobody ever sees it coming the first time. It's by no means an optimized deck but people just let me durdle and cast Spawning Breath into Act of Treason and Sigil Blessing and stuff like that. Brightflame and Prophetic Bolt take ages to resolve but I try to be quick about it and they're so powerful with enough creatures on the battlefield. The deck basically runs on 2R Insurrections and U: Draw 30 cards. It's silly and swingy and very fun but it's definitely not an "every night" kind of deck.

>>50889721
>using partner commanders but not mixing colors

FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

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>>50889947
Boros thuglife


[Spoiler]Xmas gift haul?[/spoiler]

>>50889947
Akiri is early voltron
Bruse pumps Akiri

They synergize well

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>>50889920
Y-you too

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>>50888031
>28 planeswalkers

>>50886684
Yea, I know, but I can take advantage from it a lot more.

Pox is symmetric too, that doesn't mean I won't use it.

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Spent fucking ages making this.

The playgroup looks a bit worse than it actually is since I only included our "top decks", which is generally our most powerful ones.

We also have a ton of janky fun decks, like Elemental creatures only Horde of Notions, Snake Tribal, Perverted Priests, Meren Creature Only, Exile-Mill, 5 color sexy lady, etc.

>>50889982
Foil Queen Marchesa.

>>50890353
>The playgroup looks a bit worse than it actually is since I only included our "top decks", which is generally our most powerful ones.
i had the same problem

>>50889982
Promo Black sun's zenith

>>50889982
$15 subway giftcard
I bought myself a natural order

>>50889982
Finishing off my Sharuum.

I'll post it when it arrives

>>50890062
>cast this
>cast one common spell
>win the game

I need a Doubling Season, should I get old or new art?

>>50890062
wouldn't split second make cascade not work? cascade says you "may" cast the spell, and split second says fuck you eat shit

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>>50883084
> Gisela
My man.

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>>50891003
>>50890984
I wouldn't ask too many questions.

>>50883435
If you're not looking to change the strategy up too much, you can have a few game enders in the deck and just hold onto them for late game. There are a few cards like Demon Pact that will hand you the win, but hold onto them for as long as possible. If you start dropping them early game, the other players will take you into account.

>>50890992
I prefer the newer art myself

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>>50883703
> Cards riding bare back
We share a few beers and chips when we play. It blows my mind people aren't willing to drop a few dollars on card sleeves.

>sit down with 2 friends and friend of a friend who i've never met
>he pulls out karametra
>figure it's just turbo ramp fatties like every other god damn karametra deck ever
>he drops aluren
>wait waddafuck?
>casts whitemane lion and finds every god damn basic land in his deck
>his amulet of vigor untaps them all
>green sun zenith for some assclown that lets him draw a card when he casts a creature spell
>draws his deck
>drops a mana doubler, early harvest untaps his lands, another mana doubler
>e-witness the early harvest
>ends up with mana in the hundreds, not necessarily infinite
>he's keeping tracking and announcing numbers occasionally, we all stopped caring.
>casts most of his deck
>there's some creature that makes tokens when something is bounced to his hand
>infinite 1/1 tokens now
>that one old ass green enchantment that gives everything haste. something crossroads.
>memehoof

And that's the story of how I got blown the fuck out. I'm only posting because it caught me off guard. I've never seen aluren combos in EDH (maybe just don't play with spikey enough people?) and I never really thought of GW as combo colors or karametra as a combo commander. God damn I'm ordering a torpor orb right now.

>>50891237
>gets btfo
>adds hate cards

You're a good person. Just make sure that your hate isn't too narrowly focused on what specifically beat you. Instead build to prevent possible unforeseen degeneracy.

Torpor Orb still isn't a bad pick.

>>50891237
Yeah, Aluren does that.

>>50891237
Literally a single enchantment removal or counterspell could have stopped all of that. What the fuck were the rest of you doing exactly?

>>50891316
You don't always have untapped mana, or instant speed removal.

>>50891316
trying to keep niv-mizzet from resolving niv-mizzet. and our other friend plays saskia samurai tribal and is generally unimpactful.

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>>50891378
>Saskia samurai tribal
Kamigawa was a mistake

>>50890365
got one myself. I got 2 masterpieces from friends for xmas.

>>50891237
Every color is a combo color

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took awhile, damn.

>>50887652
>no noncreature spells of any kind

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>>50875377
Why cast something once when you can cast in a fuckload of other times.

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>>50890353
>Niv-Mizzet
My fucking man.

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>>50891863
Niv-Mizzet was also my first EDH deck.

>>50891688
Saskia is so hot

I know this is a retarded question, but...
>>50875205
>Playstyle: Spike, Johnny, Timmy.

...what does that mean?

>>50892015
Spike is a guy who plays to win, Johnny is a guy who plays to find novel interactions and combos, Timmy is a guy who plays to see huge spells resolve. It's a bit more complicated than that but that's putting it simply.

>>50892015
Only competitive, combo, Big Creatures/Flashy/high CMC spells

>>50892032
Spike has an 'efficiency' tag as well.

I'm more of a Vorthos. Since I only collect. And only crack boosters and Fat Packs.

>>50892032
>>50892034
Oh, I see.
Thanks for explaining!

>>50892079
You only play efficient cards because you want to win.
Vorthos/Melvin is an entirely different scale
>>50892101
np m8

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I would appreciate some feedback on my Surrak deck.

>>>50875205

I have been tossing around the idea for some cards to put into the deck but I only have one cut so far.

>Disallow
Probbaly take out Trickbind
>Sword of Feast and Famine
>Nature's Will
>Bow of Nylea
>Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar

>>50892307
I don't know what happened to the layout of that post, but lets try the link again.

>http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/263548

>>50891863
what's that on your shirt?

Is the second guy wearing a beret or have a Pompadour?

What are some good political cards for Tasigur?

>>50892428
>hanl

Have A Nice Life maybe? Good band if so.

>>50892428
>>50892473
Yeah, it's Have a Nice Life.
And yeah, his hair is sort of pompadour-y, I just couldn't be bothered to spend more than 12 seconds drawing it out properly honestly.

>>50876070
Found out I had a Braids, fuck yes this will be a fun "group hug" deck, thanks for posting it.

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Spent more time than I imagined doing this.

>>50876070
This looks fucking great. I have a Braids and some sea monsters from an old 60-card Ula's Temple kitchen table deck that I could dig out for this

Hey guys, first time making an EDH deck and I've decided to go for a warrior tribal because I enjoy tribal synergies

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zurgo-warrior-tribal-4/

This is what I came up with, any obvious cards I should be including?

>>50892997
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zurgo-warrior-tribal-4/
Dead link bro

>>50893061
Oh, sorry, had it set on private

It should work now

Is there a straight up benefit replacing your basic lands with snow lands?

>>50893261
I think people do that for Extraplanar Lens, I don't know any other reasons off the top of my head.

>>50893261
>>50893284
And Scrying Sheets and maybe Skred.

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When you go Turbo and run 9 fetches, would you say Crucible is a good idea?

>>50889475
Or the ones who came to play magic.

>>50893424
Yes. Especially if you also have strip mine plus exploration type effects

>>50893559
I am not a fan of strip mine, but I do use Ghost Quarter, I like the utility of it.

magical Christmas combo that came to mind after seeing some aether revolt spoilers:

>krark-clan ironworks and the new scrap trawler in play
>also junk diver and myr retriever in play
>also any 2 of tormod's crypt/Mox Opal/Mox Diamond/mana crypt/sol ring/Dispeller's capsule/executioner's capsule/skullclamp/Hangarback walker

Okay so I sac the 2 cheap artifacts, floating 4 mana.
sac the retriever and diver, floating 8 mana
Trawler triggers return the 2 cheap artifacts, diver and retriever triggers return each other to my hand
Cast them all for 5 or 6 or 7 mana, still floating 1 or 2 or 3
Repeat for infinite mana

Totally realistic

>>50893645

Ghost quarter is cool but strip mine goes in every deck. Is that why you're not a fan of it?

>>50891699

Man conspire would be sooooo broken and awesome if you could conspire any number of times

>>50893950
>Man free spells would be sooooo broken and awesome if you could play infinite free spells
This is exactly why they put a limit on it.

>>50891316

The anon only had Karametra + amulet in play before he went off. It wouldnt be reasonable to tap out against that board, you can't always play around some nutty Aluren combo.

>>50893965

It would be even more broken if it wasn't a triggered ability, but instead an activated ability, tap 2 creatures that share a color: copy target instant or sorcery of that color

Then you could second harvest, copy it, when the copy resolves you'd have more guys, tap them to copy it again, etc etc

Still fun in wort to conspire a second harvest though, the numbers get pretty silly real quick

>>50890992

Token deck: old art
Super friends: new art

>>50893992
This is exactly why I play Wort. Forking ramp spells is just so much fun

>Crop Rotation, copy
>Get Valakut and Vesuva, let Valakut ETB first
>play Prismatic Omen and tons of ramp
>Boundless Realms for every remaining basic in the deck

It can win with tokens + Craterhoof or a huge Fireball but the Mountain Bomb is just so much more unexpected and fun

>>50892032
What do you call a player who durdles and grows larger quietly in the background, while helping folks here and there?

>>50894240
Second place.

>>50890353
Is "I swear its not broken" literally me?
Only difference is the top decks but I also have an expensive cube that I build from as well as a binder full of staples.
I wish we could talk about qube here

>>50875966
Id cut all the non-combo mill cards as mill is shut unless you're decking someone.
Also cut the walls out, you're not milling.
Add in some wraths, crux of fate and especially life's finale. Also add dire undercurrents, that card is sweet. Add elixir of immortality for arcanis+mind over matter combo.
Otherwise it looks ok. Nothing exceptional and a lot of sub optimal cards but functional for sure

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Fairly good fun group, just hard to find time to play!

>>50888031
>no Deepglow Skate

>>50891084
Players can still lose the game with this.

>>50889982
>got 354€ for christmas
>no idea what to buy

This is suffering. Kind of want a jace the mindsculptor tho so I probably get one.

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Is this tech spicy for GB?

>>50895961
It's good but draws a lot of hate, so most of the time you are paying 4 to trade for a 2 mana kill spell or counter

>>50892969
>tfw im that last guy but i know how to play

i just borrow peoples decks and get wasted while i play

so i wanna build nekusar, do i just jam it full of a bunch of wheels?

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>>50883084

>Dragon shield sleeves

That's amazing

Hey, I am building a Vorinclex stompy deck. What are fun, giant tramplers?

>>50896582
Something that fits the survival theme, like Vorapede, different Wurms, the big bug that copys itself

>>50879528
Cards like Possibility Storm and Blood Funnel are what make off cards playable commanders, Mishra for example. I am all for playing these cards when it help your strategy, however throwing cards like Omen Machine or Scrambleverse into your deck because "it's fun," is only sadistic.

>just got the Atraxa precon from my gf for Christmas
>I'm going to build either Ghave or Mimeoplasm out of it with the singles
Which would be more fun anons? I really want to make a dickass BUG infect deck, but ghave token swarm could be pretty good since I have a spare doubling season and parallel lives. I've never built either of these commanders, what am I in for?

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please fucking ban this card already

>>50897038
I'd rather they ban Eternal Witness

>>50897038
This card makes me wish Balance was legal.

>google "cyclonic rift edh ban"
>"9/10 times I cast Rift it's because I'm forced to because the wrong thing got hexproof. If you let people hold this card until the end of the game where it's all they need to win, chances are the game you just played had no huge threats to deal with, which is your own damn fault. Play cards that demand answers, then give them hexproof. The Rifts will fly fast and early."

is this what playing blue does to people's reasoning?

"it's ok that rift is an "i win" spell because it can only be cast once"

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>>50897195
>it's balanced because you win instantly when you cast it so you can't keep casting it again and again

I understand now

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>>50897038
>>50897195
>shitters who can't handle rift
O y v e y

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>>50897405
Found the filthy blue mage

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Any "spikes" in the thread? What are you guys running? Im currently running Karador Boonweaver combo. I so far am really liking the early turn 3s the deck can pull of but still have a fun game with everyone if it doesnt go off.

Need to pick up and entomb and SotF and then thats the full list. What are your guys's next purchases?

>>50897469
I regret drawing this

>>50897120
>It's only legal in MonoW/Boros decks

We will sieze the means of salt production in this format and it will be glorious.

>>50897469
I guess I'll just play sunder instead

>>50897523
That's a lot less relevant at instant speed and would generally only make the aggro player happy

>>50897548
I suspect it's a lot easier for any deck splashing blue to win after a resolved sunder compared to a cyc rift.

You'd have to be a turboshitter not to recognize that.

>>50875377
Ghave my friends a massive fuck your arms race "competitive deck"

Where does the line between casual and serious commander go? I built this Oloro deck with some prison shenanigans like Winter Orb and Static Orb, and my opponents on Xmage just quit the table one by one, calling me an idiot for bringing the deck to a casual game. And they did bring artifact destruction to the game, but spent it blowing up each other's Sol Rings. What's with that? It's not like I'm playing infinite combo decks, which are plenty about.

>>50897624
That depends entirely on what's on the board already.
Its the same as an armageddon except playing it during another person's turn isn't that great unless you have some means to flash in the rest of your hand with your unused mana

>>50893923
They aren't the same card? Not him but I just have one and not the other

>>50897657
Hard Stax isn't considered casual, believe it or not

>>50897702
Ghost Quarter destroys a land but the owner of the destroyed land is allowed to get a basic land out of their deck untapped.

Mine just gets rid of it entirely.

>>50897657
playing winter orbs in casual games doesn't make you a tryhard, it just makes you a dickhead. you're just slowing the game down to a grinding halt and that's pretty awful for anyone trying to enjoy a nice smooth game of edh

>>50883084
She's fucking one of your friends that play.

>>50897657
>each other's Sol Rings
Fucking wait for torpor orb

>>50897742
Ah I forgot. Bad player

>>50897742
>playing basic lands

Kek

>>50897862
Not knowing a card doesn't make you a bad player, just means you don't see it all the time.

I have turned into an encyclopedia of jank cards and combos because of EDH.

>>50896384
Don't.
I've never lost to Nekusar when im playing a deck that's not just jank. 99/100 times you're just going to give the opponents the resources to kill you

Would I be a dick to play Yasova?

>>50897874
I forgot my own card but I haven't actually played edh yet. I don't think I have any game winners besides mirror entity

>>50896384
Almost all the cards you would want can be found on EDHREC.

Tainted Strike, Grafted Exoskeleton, Helm of the Ghastlord, Mindcrank, Phyresis and Glistening Oil are all cards that speed the game along.

>>50897937
RUG is cancer, regardless of commander

>>50897937
Playing Yasova doesn't make you a dick, just make sure you use her right.

Blink effects that say return under your control are what you need.

Cards that weaken your opponents creatures/ones that buff yours are key.

Finally to ensure that you can in fact get ahead with her, you run cards that animate lands and artifacts.

>>50897991
funny how you can take something as beautiful as gruul and add blue to it to make it the most obnoxious shit ever

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>>50897873
Hue

>>50898009
>playing a deck so shitty you can not only find room for this, but also run a ton of basic lands

I could beat this with just my rocks. I don't need lands to beat shitty decks

>>50898009
"pshhhh"
*taps mana*
"you think that is enough?"
*flicks a cryptic command at your dumbfounded face*
"i choose modes: 1 and 4. check and mate."
*flicks cards in hand and leans back*
"i take it you pass your turn? your poor manabase cannot support another spell."

>>50898050
aids

>>50897991
>>50897999
I just don't want to play this way but I have her, I should trade

Sol ring can tap for two colorless as in diamond, right? This kinda new mana is wacky

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>>50891688
>mexico's finest
You play with travis woo?

>>50898290
colorless mana isn't new at all.
there has always been a distinct difference between it and generic mana, only now it's represented properly.

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>>50898045
> thinking your artifacts are safe from a red deck

>>50897747
Do you consider Possibility storm unfun as well?

>>50898050
you forgot your
"pfft... nothing personal, kid"

>>50879528
>not playing Zedru "Whose spell is it anyway?" the Greathearted chaos deck
As long as we're playing a casual format, I won't let you tell me that I'm not having fun

>>50893446
>t. Buttblasted Johnny

How do you feel about letting someone at your table run a planeswalker as a commander? They are usually easier to kill than creatures as they can be attacked directly by all players.

>>50883084
thats adorable anon

my dad has been playing with my brother and i since we where kids(around legends)

he likes playing archenemy type decks