/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest

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26th December in military history:

1481 – Battle of Westbroek: Holland defeats troops of Utrecht.
1776 – American Revolutionary War: In the Battle of Trenton, the Continental Army attacks and successfully defeats a garrison of Hessian mercenaries.
1793 – Second Battle of Wissembourg: France defeat Austria.
1805 – Austria and France sign the Treaty of Pressburg.
1806 – Battles of Pultusk and Golymin: Russian forces hold French forces under Napoleon.
1825 – Advocates of liberalism in Russia rise up against Czar Nicholas I and are put down in the Decembrist revolt in Saint Petersburg.
1861 – American Civil War: The Trent Affair: Confederate diplomatic envoys James M. Mason and John Slidell are freed by the United States government, thus heading off a possible war between the United States and United Kingdom.
1862 – American Civil War: The Battle of Chickasaw Bayou begins.
1862 – Four nuns serving as volunteer nurses on board USS Red Rover are the first female nurses on a U.S. Navy hospital ship.
1943 – World War II: German warship Scharnhorst is sunk off of Norway's North Cape after a battle against major Royal Navy forces.
1944 – World War II: George S. Patton's Third Army breaks the encirclement of surrounded U.S. forces at Bastogne, Belgium.
1972 – Vietnam War: As part of Operation Linebacker II, 120 American B-52 Stratofortress bombers attacked Hanoi, including 78 launched from Andersen Air Force Base in Guam, the largest single combat launch in Strategic Air Command history.
1991 – The Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union meets and formally dissolves the Soviet Union.

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It is 240 years since the Battle of Trenton, a small but pivotal battle of the American Revolutionary War. After General George Washington's crossing of the Delaware River north of Trenton the previous night, Washington led the main body of the Continental Army against Hessian soldiers garrisoned at Trenton. After a brief battle, nearly the entire Hessian force was captured, with negligible losses to the Americans. The battle significantly boosted the Continental Army's flagging morale, and inspired re-enlistments.

The Continental Army had previously suffered several defeats in New York and had been forced to retreat through New Jersey to Pennsylvania. Morale in the army was low; to end the year on a positive note, George Washington—Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army—devised a plan to cross the Delaware River on the night of December 25–26 and surround the Hessian garrison.

Because the river was icy and the weather severe, the crossing proved dangerous. Two detachments were unable to cross the river, leaving Washington with only 2,400 men under his command in the assault. The army marched 9 miles (14 km) south to Trenton. The Hessians had lowered their guard, thinking they were safe from the American army, and had no long-distance outposts or patrols. Washington's forces caught them off guard and, after a short but fierce resistance, most of the Hessians surrendered. Almost two thirds of the 1,500-man garrison was captured, and only a few troops escaped across Assunpink Creek.

Despite the battle's small numbers, the American victory inspired rebels in the colonies. With the success of the revolution in doubt a week earlier, the army had seemed on the verge of collapse. The dramatic victory inspired soldiers to serve longer and attracted new recruits to the ranks.

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>>50869799
The Hessian forces lost 22 killed in action, 83 wounded, and 896 captured–including the wounded. The Americans suffered only two deaths from bare feet causing frostbite and five wounded from battle, including a near-fatal wound to future president James Monroe. Other losses incurred by the Patriots due to exhaustion, exposure, and illness in the following days may have raised their losses above those of the Hessians. The Patriots also captured approximately 1,000 arms and much-needed ammunition. Last, but not least, was the capture from the Hessians of their entire store of provisions—tons of flour, dried and salted meats, ale and other liquors, but also shoes, boots, clothing and bedding—things that were as much needed by the ragtag Continental forces as weapons and horses.

Washington's force moved across the Delaware back into Pennsylvania, taking their prisoners and captured supplies with them. This battle gave the Continental Congress a new confidence, as it proved colonial forces could defeat regulars. It also increased re-enlistments in the Continental Army forces. By defeating a European army, the colonials reduced the fear which the Hessians had caused earlier that year after the fighting in New York.

An officer in Washington's staff wrote before the battle, "They make a great deal of Christmas in Germany, and no doubt the Hessians will drink a great deal of beer and have a dance to-night. They will be sleepy to-morrow morning." Popular history commonly portrays the Hessians as drunk from Christmas celebrations. However, historian David Hackett Fischer quotes Patriot John Greenwood, who fought in the battle and supervised Hessians afterward, who wrote, "I am certain not a drop of liquor was drunk during the whole night, nor, as I could see, even a piece of bread eaten." Military historian Edward G. Lengel wrote, "The Germans were dazed and tired but there is no truth to the legend claiming that they were helplessly drunk."

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>>50869818
Trenton wasn't a big battle in terms of great historical clashes, but the outcome was just as significant as any of them. It's certainly a "must play" of the AWI, and has particular appeal for those wanting to field Hessian troops.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/e3vt0bydoidhdcc/Osprey+-+CAM+203+-+Trenton+%26+Princeton+1776-77.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f6ya81szzgk8nqe/Osprey+-+MAA+273+-+General+Washington%27s+Army+%281%29+1775-78.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/76r5e6xflb7ge09/Osprey+-+MAA+039+-+The+British+Army+in+North+America+1775-83.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2i859gwsc11nu39/Uniforms+of+the+American+Revolution+v1+-+British+and+American.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/wa07q4j7u5lz87q/Uniforms+of+the+American+Revolution+v2+-+French+and+Germans.pdf

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I don't know my head from my arse when it comes to naval gaming... So looks like it's time to get out the books and start a nautical new period!
Thanks and Merry Christmas USAanon!

>>50870045
THe GHQ ships are so lovely. It's a shame they're so damn expensive. Some of them are also 25ish years old and still look amazing.

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>>50870164

>>50869861
Thank you. Obviously I'm blind.

>>50870045

As USA anon in question, first, I am glad you like them. Second, those ships specifically had like 3 engagements over about 6 months against one another; the Warspites wiki article will give you the basics. Have fun, and Merry Christmas.

>I get home Tuesday and I'll do the unboxing of what you sent then. Looking much forward to it, Canada-anon.

>>50872211
Oh that sounds pretty cool!
I will definitely read up on it!

>>50872211
>I get home Tuesday

Yikes, I though I had it bad; yesterday was my first day off this month but I'm at least home for Christmas

I'm looking for a particular game. I don't see it in the folders. It's a game for tank duels in WW2. The gimmick was you needed like 12 people to play. Each person on each team had a role and they had to do something physical. The driver was the only one who could move the miniature tank on the table, the commander was the only one who could rotate its turret, the loader had to run over and place a marble in some dish or something, the gunner had to yell FIRE to fire the gun.
I don't remember this game's name. Can anyone help me out?

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>>50872211
Aww, NEA, you sent that nice man some Sphaghetti. You got good taste.

>>50870045
Let me make the usual recommendations of Victory at Sea and General Quarters 3 in the naval MF in OP, and Naval War at
>https://www.naval-war.com
Welcome aboard.

>>50874973
Sounds like a tank-based version of the Space Cadets board game for Star Trek fans
>great game, laughed a lot

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Another new naval find, Avalon Hill's Attack Sub from 1991

Attack Sub is a card based wargame similar to Up Front. The topic is modern submarine warfare (Mostly US/Nato vs. Soviet/Warsaw Pact, but there is an occasional Falklands War scenario.) Each player has one or more submarines and/or surface ships. Each ship is represented on an individual large card with counters showing current contact status and damage. Each player plays cards to increase their "contact level" relative to their opponent. Contact level abstractly represents relative position and sonar readings. It is possible for one ship to have a better contact on his enemy than the enemy has on him. When high enough contact level is reached, torpedoes can be fired.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/l9i0yghkvnrpo89/Attack+Sub.pdf
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1413/attack-sub

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>2faustus
>2furius

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zr012s8t2iad1yn/Faustus+Furius.pdf
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/210470/faustus-furius

Faustus Furius is a fast and furious, tongue in cheek table-top racing game based very loosely around the chariot races of the ancient world and adaptable to any racing situation. Designed for 2-8 participants, it allows players to pit chariots from any culture or period against one another in a no-holds-barred race to fame and glory.

On their turn a player will roll between 1 and 3 dice (player choice), with each success gaining them an Action, and multiple failures causing potentially negative effects. A player might choose to play it safe, and roll only 1 die, or may push their luck and roll 2 or all 3. One of the neat spins in this version of that dice system is the idea of Normal dice and Fatigue dice. Normal dice succeed on a roll of 3+, while Fatigue dice succeed on a 4+, as the race wears on Normal dice are replaced by Fatigue dice, and the risk of having some sort of negative consequence from rolling multiple failures becomes more significant.

Spending the Actions a player gets from their dice allows them to do things, such as move further, turn, attack fellow Charioteers, and more, with complex actions like Sharp Turns and Inciting the Crowd, costing more Actions to perform.

The player that manages to complete a set of laps (decided before the game, and typically two) will win the day.

>>50874973
That's available on Jim Wallman's site.

>>50880220
http://www.jimwallman.org.uk/wargame/tankduel.pdf

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>>50880220
>>50874973
Based Jim

Guys, over at Warlord Games is a 50% discount on sprues (and other deals) AND free shipping world wide.

>>50873997

Yeah, I work in theatre, and I got a call if I could replace a featured stunt performer for a week while the lead recovered from an injury. It ended up being about 3 grand for the job since it was a last-minute gig over Christmas, so it was worth taking with the amount of expensive shit that's gone wrong around my house over the last 18 months. I don't normally work over the holidays.

I have a noon (local) call time, I'm on the clock until 5pm, and then I get a 300 mile drive home. Depending on how tired I am I may do my unboxing tonight instead.

>>50880263

Damn, and my check won't clear till after the new year.

>>50870045

>>50872211 here.

My apologies anon, I forgot that Noble Knight only put the ship class on the Italian ship. The specific ship which fought the Warspite was the Vittorio Veneto, which is a Littorio-class BB. If you haven't been able to track down the engagements yet, that should do the trick.

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I only got one directly /hwg/ item for Christmas this year, and it's pure wargaming porn. Wargaming in History Volume 9, by Charles S Grant & co.

It's beautiful. Thick, heavy paper. Colourful photos. Rambling introductions where he updates regular readers on the state of his armies. Four SYW battles, each with a brief overview & map, some useful and interesting discussion on how best to adapt it to the tabletop, a tabletop scenario, and then a battle report. There are also some rules changes for The War Game (grenadier changes, cavalry organisation, dead ground), with a ton more discussion on how they were arrived at and how they should work.

It's a pretty chunky book - only 200ish pages, but they're good ones, and I'm seriously not kidding when I call them wargaming porn. The 2016 reprint is £35, and definitely a "premium product," to go into marketing speak. It's seriously comfy and has a great tone throughout.

The photo isn't mine, I just googled one up and stole it from someone who refought one of the scenarios: https://snv-ttm.blogspot.co.nz/2016/08/lobositz-refought.html

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>>50882511
As for the interior photos, well, I have shit lightning. But the one on the cover's cool, and someone scanned it for a review.

https://altefritz.blogspot.co.nz/2014/04/book-review-wargaming-in-history-volume.html

>>50882548
I also got a hardcopy of Playing at the World, which is more /osrg/ than /hwg/, but still has a fair bit of wargaming early on. Christ, that's a big, thick book. I only had the ebook before, I was not prepared.

>>50882511
>Rambling introductions where he updates regular readers on the state of his armies
So it's like a printed out blog?

>>50882618
It's coherent, well-written, and edited.

Like a good, charming blog? With production values, and history.

I don't normally bump, but I figure Iron Maiden's The Trooper is /hwg/-related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li58voy6xXM

Oh, Iron Maiden? Well, Finns are pretty metal.

>>50884632
that is pretty great

>>50880220
>>50880226
>>50880242
Thanks a bunch!

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Just bought the Perry European Mercenaries box to use for my late 14th century Scottish pikemen but all the dank helmets and crossbows really make me want to start a continental mercenary force instead. Don't know what to do fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckk.

>>50885654
Build a small mercenary warband and use the main part of the box for your scots.

I usually play FOW, and V4 is coming out March 2017. If the new edition ruins everything what other 15mm scale ww2 rules are either popular now or look promising for a release around that time? Just in case.

>>50885814
>popular
Nothing is really popular for WW2 outside of Bolt Action in 28mm and Flames of War. however, things that are well rated that'd fit would be something like the Battlegroup series. 15mm is a bit of an oddity as far as I can tell, most stuff seems focuses on smaller or larger for WW2.

Does anyone have any crescent root studios 15mm terrain? It looks like it'd work fine for 20mm stuff, but they also have a 20mm range that is still TBA.

>>50885654
Do both!

What do you have for your scots allready?

>>50885814
>If the new edition ruins everything
is this likely?

Even if it doesn't. You can play other games anyway.

>>50886543
>Do both!
I'm a poorfag

>What do you have for your scots allready?
A box of knights I've painted up to represent those who fought at the Battle of Otterburn and some archers. I could add some European mercenaries (probably Swiss) to fight alongside but I am struggling to find a source which mentions something like this.

>>50885654
Could you do a pic of the sprues?

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>>50888830

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>>50888830
infantry sprue

>>50888941
>>50888960

Thanks Anon.

>>50885814
You could try Ostfront, Crossfire, Rapid Fire, Battlegroup and Chain of Command. I wouldn't say the new FoW edition will ruin everything, they tend to be pretty careful with their updates.

>>50889445
>I wouldn't say the new FoW edition will ruin everything

Don't worry, I would.

It's a tragedy that the only WW2 games for which one can find players are the two worst. Bolt Action and FoW should never have existed.

>>50889445
Those aren't designed for multi based figures; he'd need to modify those skirmish rules to re-use FOW figures.

He would be better off using the FoW figures for games like Spearhead or FFoT3 etc

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>>50890687
Crossfire and ostfront are both designed for multi based miniatures, CoC too iitc

Mostly finished a few WW2 Chinese vehicles. Hand-painting Chinese characters at 1/72 was pretty fun. The sunburst "transfers" are from my printer, cut out and glued on with PVA

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Oh god..we are really doing this! A Type VIIA in September of 1939! Can KptLt Steiger Kross and the crew of the U-33 (known by its crew as "The Rust Bucket") manage to even get the sub out of the docks in Germany and into the war? Will it end in disaster or glory for the crew?

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So Christmas was pretty good for me, also got some /hwg/ related books.

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>>50892644
They'll be nothing to hit for about a year other than trawlers and the odd Royal Navy tub passing along. Then comes your Happy Times when the Atlantic turns into a shooting range, so just camp off the west coast of Ireland and go for it. Assuming you don't meet a mine or have an unlucky encounter with a destroyer then you'll get to the end of 1942. From that point on, of course, you're fucked.

>>50893521
Incidentally, can anyone recommend a good way to clean up these counters and make them look presentable?

>>50885814
FOW is always a gateway into things like I Ain't Been Shot, Mum anyway. Or the Peter Pig rules, or Crossfire, or CoC/Big CoC, or even Fistful of TOWs (which covers WW2 as well - has separate unit lists for pre- and post-1950s).

>>50887526
>Battle of Otterburn
Then the Perry mercs are awfully late and out of place.

>>50891832
These are comically bright almost. It looks like they were painted with unthinned craft paint.

>>50889723
>Bolt Action and FoW should never have existed.

I disagree. Both games created a large playerbase with interest in WW2 games (from where other games can get players) and also created a large range of plastic miniatures and tanks in 28mm and 15mm.

>>50891832
For the future: Thin the paints more. It looks really thick.

I also recommend going over the whole vehicle with a thinned sepia wash and a very light drybrush of a dusty color to raise the edges a bit.

>>50895460

But they aren't historically accurate, even by the loose standards of historical wargaming. So what's that point? They're a trap, making people THINK they're playing historicals, when what they really are is a cancer killing the player bases of other, better, historicals.

>>50896835
Purity testing and elitism isn't going to solve anything, the people who want to play more realistic historicals will find their way to them as they always have.

These games just provide a gateway for people to get interested in historical wargaming.

>>50896835
FYI you can make historical lists and play it historically. Nobody forces you to take maxed out Brandenburgers with StGs and noone forces you to take a tank parking lot.

What's wrong with FoW besides tank parking lot stuff? I thought it was supposed to be decent. Isn't Team Yankee the same system as well?

>everyone always replies to the guy who shitposts about fow and BA
one day it will end

>>50896835
Mate, you should see the back-of-a-postcard rule sets I've scribbled down and used to play fun games with 1/72 and 40mm soldiers, 15mm & 1/56 tanks, books under a blanket for hills, and books as houses with christmas cards perched and blu-tacked on top as roofs.

40K is more historically accurate, and yet . . .

>>50896931
>1/72 and 40mm soldiers, 15mm & 1/56 tanks
at the same time, if that wasn't clear.

in the same game.

some unbased, some stuck to a piece of card.

unpainted card.

>>50896958
Someone, somewhere is getting real triggered over this post.

>>50896835
BA is a game for people who have lives and not as much time for gaming as others.

some people have not got the time to play a full grog session where the player needs to roll to see if the commander farted and how badly it affected concealment. that shit is tedious for some people.

As for fow, i don't see how its THAT ahistorical. A few lists might stretch the truth but the fact is that real armies are boring. they're a job. a chore. thats why people get paid to run them.

there has to be a good balance between simulationist and fun.

>>50896972
It's me, I'm getting real triggered about that post.

>>50896979
>people who play historically accurate ish rules don't have lives
>all other rules are grog sessions involving needless minutia
>real armies are always a chore

If I was feeling cynical I would say you were just trying to trigger people too.

>>50896925
pretty sure there's a few of us that don't like BA and FoW. FoW: too many special rules, too much to remember, just becomes un-fun. BA: WW2 40K with rules that seem to dissuade historical lists, also not combined-arms enough.

>>50896898
TY is even more complex than FoW from what I've heard.

>>50897124
>TY is even more complex than FoW from what I've heard.

Well, ya heard wrong.
In fact, they've done away with many of the special rules, complex resolution for things like hit allocation and seriously improved the fluidity of the game.

In fact, with their FoW 4th edition taking many of those lessons into account, it has potential to be quite an improvement.

>>50896835
>when what they really are is a cancer killing the player bases of other, better, historicals.

I claim that nobody would leave a "better" historical game to play a "worse" one.

On the other side, people will leave 40k and other games to play historicals, even if they are just "lite" ones like BA, FoW or even Saga.

If thats all they look for in a historical game, then so be it. Some of them might want more after a while though, and they will try out other games as well, especially if they already own the necessary miniatures for it. And if these games are truly better, then the people will stay.

>>50897034
There is a reason some games are describes as "beer & pretzel". For some people games like that are great, others want more.

>>50898517
not sure what this has to do with my post.

I know they exist and are good and never said otherwise.

What's in the box?

No dragon dildos today. Maybe someone in /WIP/ has some though.

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>>50899072
Aaaaaaand I'm fucking retarded today. Two hours of sleep goes great with personing.

>>50899087
>K-34
T-34s and a K-9 dildo?

>>50898483
Not to mention interest in "casual" historical generates enough demand that companies can make profitably make miniatures.

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>>50899087
I bet it is miniatures.

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The Atlantic has a little puffpiece asking a panel who the worst leaders of all time are. The responses are basically poorly argued "People I don't like" such as George Bush for the most part than actually terrible leaders.

Being more historically literate than average, who does /hwg/ consider to be the worse leaders of history?

>>50899087
What would a /hwg/ relevant dildo look like?

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>>50899288
>>50899245
Graham Crackers?

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>>50899401

>>50899397
Off the top of my head I'd name someone like Mussolini.

This is a fairly difficult question to answer however, as first we must define what quantities the leaders are being measured by.

>>50899406
You ordered a bunch of those flat ship stickers from that company that gave away a freebie? Cool.

>>50899423
Level of meth consumption? It's pretty hard to top the Hitler clusterfuck.

And I don't mean "if he'd just listened to his generals...!" because a lot of them were just as fucked up on his pure ideology *sniff* and they couldn't logistic their way out of a paper back.

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>>50899467
The Coronel/Falklands set. I had a 20% promo code, and I already have minis for WWII stuff, so I picked up some WWI stuff instead. I was impressed enough with the sample to pick these up as an easy way to branch into WWI. Hoping to use the scenarios for these two battles to learn Grand Fleets.

>>50899288
Don't be absurd.

>>50899397
Idi Amin was pretty bad, both in terms of incompetence and general awfulness.

>>50899423
True. Putting Neville Chamberlain on a list of worst leaders in history is hardly fair given the international situation and domestic sentiment he was dealing with.

We might define worst leader as someone who's actions led to a major negative consequence that (might?) not have happened without that leader's choices/actions.

I don't know much about the period but perhaps King George III's handling and loss of the American colonies would qualify.

Ala ad-Din Muhammad II provoking Ghengis Khan was a bad idea but conflict with the Mongols was likely unavoidable eventually

>>50897124
FoW rulebook: 289 pages
Team Yankee rulebook: 88 pages

>>50899586
Nice.

Is that a sailing ship in the top row?

>>50900613
Yes. A Norwegian barque that wandered into and out of one of the battles. Can't really find much more about it than that.

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Damn this host on Time Commanders is annoying as fuck, he's just getting in the way and being loud constantly.
I think I'm done watching this new series, I can't stand him any longer. Really serious misstep in choice of presenter.

>>50881514
Reading about it now!
Naval stuff is cool, I've always been too nervous to get into it o.o

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Know of any good rulebooks/sources for modern African bush wars?

>>50904069
AK47, Force on Force

>>50904102
a47, I will check this out. ty

>>50899397
military, the WWI generals on both sides who thought letting your soldiers run against heavily fortified positions again and again is a good idea, come to mind.

Politically maybe Pol Pot of Cambodia, as he killed of ~25% of his own people , most of them the elite including teachers etc.

>>50904408
Conrad von Hotzendorf and Luigi Cadorna are the two big examples of incompetent leadership in WWI. Haig tends to get a lot of flak too, but compared to those two he was quite sensible.

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With 2017 almost upon us and everybody going on about how shitty 2016 was, I am curious; what does /hwg/ think the shittiest year/years to live in during history would have been?

My vote's for 1346-53, the Black Death SUCKED.

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>>50904535
but bretty awesome for the 1/10

>>50899397
>tfw turned head sideways to read this for 30 seconds before realizing I could just save it and flip it in photoviewer

That list is pretty pathetic although I'm pleasantly surprised to find that the history professor actually made a solid and interesting choice.

Rome seems to have a pretty large selection of both the best and worst leaders of history.

As far as worst leader of all time, well the worst living leader is probably Robert Mugabe. Although one could argue that the fact that he has continually run his country further and further into the ground well into his 90s without being killed and eaten indicates a certain amount of leadership ability, if not any of the qualities required to make good use of it.

Worst of all time, I would probably vote for Nero, or that one emperor who moonlit as a transvestite prostitute.

Polybius makes a good point about not confusing bad luck for incompetence when weighing a leader's quality, which is why I don't think it's appropriate to say "this guy LOST so he must suck", as in the Napoleon blurb in that pic.

>>50904408
>military, the WWI generals on both sides who thought letting your soldiers run against heavily fortified positions again and again is a good idea, come to mind.

They didn't. Tactics evolved constantly during the first world war, and the generals weren't blind to the suffering their actions caused, it's just that they had no other options.

Is Force on Force entirely scenario-based for determining what units a side gets?

>>50905835
>>tfw turned head sideways to read this for 30 seconds before realizing I could just save it and flip it in photoviewer

Yeah, sorry. I rotated the pic on my phone but it was un-rotated after uploading. Spooky phone black magic.

>>50906411
Yes, tho a point-building system is present.

I'd say both sides should use a platoon, and if it's unbalanced for one side or the other, give sime other assets to them. Or draw more Fog of War cards. Or use the asset points from Ambush Valley.

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>>50899397
Another kick in the nuts for poor old Jeff Davis, the eternal Rebel scapegoat

>>50908065
>Yes, tho a point-building system is present.

Ah, I must be a blind retard then, I couldn't find it.

>>50908134
https://www.scribd.com/doc/83841372/Play-Balancing-System-for-AAG-Games-v1-0-7

Not fully finished, tho.

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>>50908171
Much thanks.

>>50899397
That Napoleon one has me triggered as fuck. Yes his blunders destroyed the first French empire, but who created it again?

Hi lads, anybody got around to playing any Men Who Would Be Kings yet?

>>50908205
I kinda wonder if there's any other PDFs of Force on Force floating around out there besides the four in the Modern folder.

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>>50904069
As already mentioned, gameswise you should check out AK47 Republic:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/7icp6x65kzyymmh/AK-47+Republic+1E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xu8dw2fyi2icl1f/AK-47+Republic+2E.PDF

And sourcewise here are the five parts of Osprey's Modern African Wars series

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/p0kb8lcwehbav/Modern_African_Wars

>>50911742
have did my games of saga at a shitty gaming club sour my taste for this game?

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>>50911768

>>50911824
whoops meant WHY instead of HAVE

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>>50909858
Also check out http://libgen.io/ for source books.
They have some from the Africa@War series

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=A6BAF99802CB1539C135962E61D47D52
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=50242AF818A1BDFA384092181D804DB2
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=AA7214CF568DBF11F636B0E53603E068

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>>50911768
>>50911843

The operative words are "shitty gaming club", not "saga". Fix that, and I'm willing to bet you'll find SAGA interesting again.

I am fairly impressed that people have managed to shit that game up, though. It's not like there's list-building tricks to exploit, and it's not like you control what happens on your battleboard from turn to turn (unless they've got loaded dice, I guess). Aside from being a sperg about millimetric measurements, I'm curious as to what specifically they're shitting up.

>>50912257
they're infinity players so they just really trying to sabotage it so that i would drop it and come back to playing infinity

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OK, belated secret santa unboxing time.

Thanks, anon, from Soviet Canuck-istan.

>1/6

>>50912333

Oh, good. Granola bars straight from Quebec. What a merry Christmas this will-

>2/6

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>>50912341

stripping my image and posting is not the way to guarantee a happy holiday, 4chan.

>2/6, again

>>50912316

Ah, then the correct response is a hearty, "fuck those people."

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>>50912355

Hang on a tic. This isn't a granola bar. This isn't a granola bar at all.

>3/6

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>>50912372

Thank you, Canada-anon.

>4/6

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>>50912391

Ah, 28mm Afghan insurgents. Neat. I've actually been futzing with a "green v tan army men" ruleset for a while now so my kid can play wargames with me (yes, I know Combat Storm exists), and I've been looking to be able to actually apply painted minis to it. These will be *perfect*.

>5/6

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>>50912419

Out of the box. I didn't have time to give them a black wash so the details of the white metal would be visible on camera; I leave in 3 hours to go celebrate a belated Christmas with my actual family and I wanted to post this unboxing today.


Thank you again, Canada-Anon! Merry Christmas!

>6/6

>>50912419
>a "green v tan army men" ruleset for a while now

You mind posting that? It sounds interesting.

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>>50912660

Sure. Here's the v1.22 model. This is still in alpha-level development, so it's not especially pretty and the layout is bad, but the rules are generally workable and it's a playable game.

Age target is ~8 years old (ie, an 8-year old should be able to figure it out), compared to 12-14 y/o for something like 40K, 16-18 y/o for something like Infinity, or 50-55 y/o for something like Campaign for North Africa.

Regenboogforel, looks pretty unlikely your package will ever arrive if it hasn't now, do you want to get in touch and make sure I have the right address before I buy some stuff online to your address to make up for the lost package?

>>50912419
Huh, didn't know the Sangin lot had their own range. Those Land Rover-based technicals look weird to me.

Has anyone read their Afrika supplement? It seems interesting, but I don't like their rules and it's a bit pricey when I'm broke.

>Skirmish AFRIKA

>AFRIKA is an imaginary continent set in the modern world. This book contains 9 scenarios and all the background information players need to create forces (ORBATS) for each of the 14 countries and UN Peacekeepers, Private Military Contractors and Guerrillas.

>This book contains detailed background on 14 new and original Afrikaan Countries. Within this continent, its countries have a diverse range of problems that includes everything from war-like aggressive neighbours to internal dissent and terrorism. At the same time these countries deal with the spectre of modern colonialism. This takes many forms including aid dependency, unscrupulous trade deals and arms supplies from countries as diverse as China, India, Europe and the USA.

>>50912838

Thats actually a pretty nice system. I don't know about 8 year olds, but I have a couple of 12-13 year old cousins that would likely get a kick out of this. Thanks!

One thing: you talk about the radio guy's action (Observe) for mortar fire, but the rules for mortar attacks are only in the weapon description. That's less than intuitive, because you're talking about modifying something you haven't learned how to do yet. You probably want to look at rearranging the order of things.

>>50915293

He said pretty explicitly that layout wasn't a thing he was worried about yet you doof.

Look for problems with rules and concepts, not problems with layout or editing. That's what's supposed to happen in an alfa playtest.

>>50915428
Not the guy you are replying to but in my experience 90% of rules problems and queries arise from poor syntax, layout and/or poor reading, NOT poor concepts.

>>50915465

I agree, but that's still not the point of alfa-level playtests. If you're dealing with a pure manuscript, then you shouldn't be concerning yourself with layout at all. Typos and unclear concepts? Absolutely. Rearranging stuff waits until after you've ported your manuscript over to a layout program.

>married a copy editress

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>>50915465
I'd second this. Pike & Shotte was a cunt for this, burying relevant text in paragraphs of bullshit and flowery language broken up by images and guff.
Really simple system otherwise. Horrible to actually try and run the first few times. Especially if cursed with players that never bother to read/remember the rules themselves.

>>50915533
>that's still not the point of alpha-level playtests.
Also seconding this though.

Anybody played any rules by the Perfect Captain? Thinking about trying some Hoplomachia.

>>50916098
Huh, guess I'll have to spend at least as much time learning the rules than to paint my army.

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>>50915533
>a layout program

What program does she use? I worked on a big technical report with multiple authors earlier this year and getting the final draft formatted correctly turned into a nightmare.

---

Is there a scan of Impetus around? I didn't see it in the OP and the publisher doesn't seem to have the demo rules up anymore.

>>50916679
>Is there a scan of Impetus around? I didn't see it in the OP and the publisher doesn't seem to have the demo rules up anymore.
try the second post. It's there.

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>>50916733
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518
Oh I see, didn't realize it had it's own folder. Thanks!

>>50916765
>Esci NATO French infantryman in the background
Have sauce for the image, my dearest anon?

>>50912316
>infinity players
We aren't all like that. I'm sorry anon :(

I'm thinking of getting some cheap germans through Warlord games since they're doing their 50% off plastic sprues. Am I correct in thinking that to get most bang for your buck I should be purchasing Fallschirmjaeger since their weapons are in the sprues, as opposed to the other german sprues where you have to buy a separate weapon sprue?

>>50891832
My god, your infantry are gross and now your tanks are infected too! Google some paint tutorials man, it aint rocket science.

Sounds harsh I know, but its painting like this which turns people away from the hobby and it's horridly common.

Painting is easy to do at a basic level. Women and children can do it after a weeks practice.

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>>50918051
>but its painting like this which turns people away from the hobby
>not half painted models
>not basecoated models
>not unpainted, badly assembled models

>>50918051
>>50918142
This, anon's tanks definitely ain't perfect but I'd rather play against them than bare plastic.

Although those printed-out-and-PVA'ed-on markings are triggering me slightly.

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My latest, Rubicon's Tiger I for use in Bolt Action.

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>>50918836

>>50912910
yeah, if you have steam my nickname is Frater Ambrosius i' m in the /hwg/ steam group.

>>50918836
>>50918852
Dang, that's a pretty panzer.

How are the Rubicon kits to work with?

>>50918893
Pretty simple. I don't recall any issues with them, and I've made... 3 different ones (T-34/85, SU-85, Tiger I). They leave a little to be desired in regards to fine detail, but hey, they're wargaming kits, not scale models.

>>50918932
To be fair, I'd probably rather take a hit to detail than deal with annoying fiddly parts.

>>50918836
>>50918852
Well washed.

Picking out some of the tools, tow cables and so on would probably lift it a bit further, but then again, there might be another platoon that needs paint...

>>50919063
Yeah, I agree. I initially wanted to go for a quick job on it, as is the plan for the rest of the force, so I omitted them; if I was to do it again I'd just give them a base colour.
I'm bad for not finishing things, so this is something :0)

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>>50917525
No, it was just a loose image in my wargames folder. Don't recall where it's from.

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>>50917525
>>50919232
Google lead to a blog called Mike's Miniatures, specifically a Jan 2016 entry on "Spartacon 2016"

>The scenario was as follows; The French went into an Afghan village and got themselves in a world of hurt. The French begin the game with wounded troopers, I played part of the French team and let me say the words merde and foutre were ringing out all over the valley. It was a very hard game for the French to win. I am not saying it was not possible to win, but many things had to go right for the French, Afghan Allies and Americans and it did not. An example of this, one of the mechanics in Force on Force is when one is rolling for initiative to see who fires first. If a one is rolled by either player, a Fog of War card is drawn. I believe eight or nine Fog of War cards were drawn and only two were beneficial to our side. The Afghan side got reinforcements on several occasions and one card gave an Afghan unit better stats. Ultimately the French took it in les sous-vêtement.

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>>50918932
The aforementioned SU-85

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>>50904535
For Europe, 1348 is definitely up there.

Whatever year in the 1200s the Mongols got to you in Asia was pretty terrible.

Similarly the Spanish shoiwing up was a pretty bad day in Mesoamerica/South America. That said, the Aztecs were pretty bad news too.

Any of the megafloods along the Columbia river, Black Sea, Mediterranean or Altai approximately 10,000 to 20,000 years ago would have been a bad day; there's a rumbling noise, you look up and there's a several hundred meter tall wall of water surging towards you at 100 km/hr

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>>50918142
While some gamers wanna be the very best like no one ever was, some people are intimidated by expertly-painted models and find it refreshing to see "everyman" paintjobs.
Personally, I aspire to do an expert job, but recognize that there are a certain number of people who think "I can't paint to that level, wargames aren't for me"

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>>50921021
>some people are intimidated by expertly-painted models

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>>50895473
Good idea, I did a dark brown wash to dull the colors a bit, then a grey dust highlight to tie in with the rest of the forces and the bases.
The camo is pretty unique and eccentric, something the Chinese seem to have a knack for (that modern pixelated camo). Not often you have light yellow and grey in a camo scheme, along with brown and green. I could have gone for a simple bluish grey, but all the photos I've seen of Chinese armor from the period had this solomon-type 4 color scheme, hard to find color photos though. The SdKfz 222's were usually grey, but I wanted to keep the solomon camo to tie everything together

Finished up some of my scratch-built field guns too, and our Shanghai table is coming along, been building some terrain for it. Managed to find a few 1/76 1930s cars too!

>>50918397
I would use transfers if I could find them, only one kit I've seen that had Chinese transfers in it, and it wasn't one of the one's I bought.

Unfortunately the 4th Vickers tank I couldn't finish due to malformed parts - sent a complaint to the supplier, hopefully they'll replace it. Damn Ukrainian UM!

>>50916290

TPC's rulesets are one of my favourites, since they put a big emphasis on the morale in the army.

Hoplomachia is a great example here, as the primary 'conflict' of the game seems to be boosting your Army's morale (as a whole) and dropping the enemy's, so you can run him off the field more easily.

Combat system itself is unique: you get to calculate the punch-through power of the attacker, and then compare it to the stopping power of: shield, then armor, then actual morale, to see how effective the attack is.

Unfortunately, you have to do this for every single (individual) stand - like in DBA, but for both sides separately - so the combat tends to drag on a bit.

Otherwise, it's great set of rules, especially if you're into Classical Greek history, and want to recreate the period: 4goat sacrificing, singing the paen (or however it's spelled) and did your army have time to have breakfast or not, all figure into it.

>>50922143
Really nice and interesting looking force.

Okay, so now instead of seeing (You), the posts that reply to mine are shown with dotted underlining. Who thought this was a good idea?

>>50922143
The buildings are a bit weord, but otherwise, nice. Just add rubble for the bases.

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>>50925178
rip (You). only oldfags will remember now.

Yea the buildings are color printed paper glued to old cardboard boxes. Cheap and dirty but effective enough for wargames. I'm going to make some ruined ones that infantry can enter at some stage. Should end up with an entire tables worth, then let the second Sino-Japanese war commence!

We're also gearing up for a kursk re-right in January - a 1500 point Ostfront game. Considering normal games are ~250 points, its going to be pretty massive. Probably the largest ostfront game ever played. 8 Tigers, 7 panthers, countless Pz.IIIs, IVs, StuGs, etc. over 1000 points of German armor alone.

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>>50925249
>rip (You). only oldfags will remember now.
It's still there if you use 4chanX

>>50925269
I added it to my browser, but it still doesn't show.

>>50925269
>there are people out there that use vanilla 4chan

How terrifying.

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>>50925303
Have you looked through your settings anon

>>50925322
Aye, for this post, it does show. Guess it's not retroactive or something.

Thanks anon, wasn't aware of this extension. I was a filthy vanilla pleb.

>>50922143
Charming. Have fun.

>>50922143
These look great, you just need some chinese cavalry!

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>>50925595
I actually do have a bunch of cavalry earmarked for Chinese - 18 strelets RKKA minis with steel helmets. Will make 9 cavalry stands for Ostfront.
From the research I've done I dont think cavalry were used in Shanghai in 1937, but certainly the Chinese did make heavy use of them elsewhere.
I'm currently building some mortar teams which will suit city fighting very nicely - bastardizing a mix of Soviet mortar crew with soft caps, some German minis I found with peaked caps and stahlhelm, and I'll throw the odd Caesar Chinese mini on for good measure. 5 Mortar teams should deal with enemy infantry where my field guns and tanks cant reach...

I can't believe the (You)'s ain't working. Hit me up with some replies please so I can see for myself.

Meanwhile, painting russians is boring. What should I paint next? 12 partisans, 12 NKVD troops or 12 regular riflemen?

>>50926148
>painting russians is boring.

Why though?
You can paint their uniforms in alot of different shades from faded khakis over dark browns to greens. (Depending on the mini even Camo is possible).
But if you are bored, go for the partisans next.

>>50926148
>tfw i still get to experience the joy of (You)s

>>50926168
Yeah, that seems like a safe bet. I can vary the colors a bit more with them.

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>>50921021
No, there is a basic standard and it looks a hell of a lot better than the shit GI JOE looking things that guy posted.

I suggest to: >>50891832

Clean mold lines

Undercoat white

water down paint then paint base colours

Wash with whatever tone suits the colours (I normally go for lighter washes but darker is easier, all depends on colours though).

Highlight using the base coat in the raised areas

Highlight with a brighter colour on the most raised areas (dont just mix colour with white, doesnt work. Need to think about how to use a brighter colour for highlight, for example Red = Orangy red for highlight usually)

Then detail (eyes are done at start, heaps of tutorials for this)

Then base the model

Gloss varnish

Transfers

Matt varnish

and done. This will make your tanks look incredibly nice while being very easy to do. If you paint in 1/72 (which is a great scale) then buy one of those cheap airfix infantry boxes and paint away using this technique. After a while you will pick up on what works best and how to do it and bam you will be painting at an average standard.

Please dont just sit there and be proud of rubbish, you can easily improve and you wont look back. Painting is not daunting as many people think it is.

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>>50922143
Continuing with my painting advise, basing is also vital.

As someone who plays Japanese invasion of shanghai a lot I can offer some urban warfare basing advise.

Get some of your left over sprue and cut them into varying chunks to looks like building stones/bricks.

Get some paper clips and remove the rubber coating.

Get some mesh and rip it into bits

get some sand.

Mix sand and PVA glue and mix all over the base (with the models on it) and then place the "bricks" and a few of the other items around the models in a cinematic manner.

Leave it to dry.

Paint black.

Then drybrush in increasingly lighter grey drybrushing less and less until it looks ugly.

Add a dark wash to it heavily.

Then you can leave it there or take it a step further. Pick out a "brick" here and there and paint them brick colours. Add some rust to some of the pipes/wires and mesh.

This will create awesome and very cheap urban basing. Since cheap is what you are going for I highly suggest this.

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>>50930418
>As someone who plays Japanese invasion of shanghai a lot

pics?

Anyone pick up v and v minis? If so how do they compare to other 2828mm figures. I want to use them alongside my gripping beast minis.

>>50931901
I am on holiday sorry mate.

Unfortunately im stuck playing bolt action until battlegroup makes some asian rules (which are confirmed in like 4+ years or something).

I have 1k points of japs including cavalry, infantry, some light arty and a Ha Go (my favourite tank).

I face some converted Chinese infantry with some support guns.

Also do boarder conflicts with the Soviets and sometimes fight the Brits.

I prefer the Chinese/Manchurian fronts from before WW1 right up till the closing days of WW2.

>>50925932
I see you are in NZ?

Where in NZ are you? (saw your TMP post). If near Kapiti would be cool for get a game in some time.

>>50930418
>>50925249

Are Japanese houses close enough to use in China? I've seen plenty of paper and resin kits of Japanese houses for samurai games but none for China

Ask a man who is about to buy a 28mm Alexander The Great army anything

>>50934073
What miniatures?

>>50934157

Warlord Games

>>50934173
>warlord
>not victrix

Get out.

>>50934193

Warlord does Battle Elephants my mane

>>50934243
>Alexandrian army
>using the warlord successor elephants

GET THE FUCK OUT!

>>50934320

In my timeline Alexander lived past his 33 birthday

>>50934015
If in City nobody should notice. Countryside no.

>>50934073
Why? Explain in detail.

>get a Revell Leopard from a friend
>he got it as a part of a bigger pack
>assembly is started
>rather badly if I might say
>box from the back of the turret is missing
>box that basically half the shit on the turret connects to

Life is suffering.

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>>50932793
Ah I'm in Dunedin, down south mate. I'm always keen for a game, if you're ever down this way. we hit the OMTS club whenever its open. You play ostfront? or other WW2 games?

>>50930418
Cheers I'll do some ruined rubble, I've used sprue rubble before, but I'm going to go with balsa wood rubble this time as its easier to make (can cut it up quickly with scissors instead of having to clip heavy plastic for hours). I have some "bricks" made that should work well.
Interesting to see someone else doing some second Sino-Japanese war figthing

>>50935604
A bit far down for me but ill keep it in mind.
I play Bolt Action (it's whats popular) and Battlegroup when I can. My favourite scale is 6mm but im happy with whatever.

As for sino fighting yea its my favourite period. Personally I think it's under rated by most people.

It had naval landings, air raids, tanks, cavalry, urban fighting, rural fighting, conventional warfare and guerrilla warfare etc. Everything a man could want in a war and still be completely different from the other side of the worlds battles.

>>50935712
By period I mean theatre...

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>>50935712
Nice, good to see someone else in the country has an interest in the theater/period. Supposedly people down here play BA too but I've never seen them play it at the club over the last 3 months. No FoW either. We go down to play Ostfront demo games and talk military history with some of the old grognards. As the sole WW2 game being played, its cool to be able to do a wide variety of theaters and periods. US/Jap pacific battles, Jap/Soviet Khalkhin Gol, Brit/Italian desert battles, the usual Soviet/Wehrmacht eastern front, and now some second Sino-Japanese war!
There is the odd TANKS game played at 15mm which seems popular among some of the older guys.

>>50935900
BA is not a good game for buffs, while it is fun it's not something that makes for a good history game but instead a history themed game.

I will have to look into Ostfront, I have heard of it but not played or seen any of it.

>>50936194
>BA is not a good game for buffs

Agreed. But it at least has the veneer of historicality, and it's better to have a gateway drug to better historicals later-on than to greet newcomers with a copy of The Face of Battle or Force on Force and telling them that they're only allowed to play if they've got a combat command's worth of painted and based minis for a genre they've never touched before.

As a side note, our local BA meta has a gentleman's agreement going that we will only play lists which we can source to primary material or directly inference from same. While the rules are still simplistic, at that point, the game is fun and you can get reasonably historical results from it, which IMO is the point of the entire exercise in the first place.

LAV-75

>>50938258
>But it at least has the veneer of historicality

Yeah, but it's about as thin as this and not nearly as funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0kg2GWVHo

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>>50938624
oh man that is fucking hilarious

Is that an M-18 dressed up as a Japanese tank?

>>50938687
I am not sure. Comments think it's actually some Chinese design.

What's particularly funny is that this is a movie that's ostensibly about the Defense of the Great Wall during the Second Sino-Japanese War. In the fucking 1930s.

>>50938687
Deffo an M18. It was the only thing not guilty of bad acting. At least it didn't jump up in the air when a grenade went off.

>>50938624
Totally agree that that movie looked like a 1:1 BA game.

>>50940003
That said, I agree with the comments that it's amazing how they actually managed to make a tank showing up be anticlimactic.

>>50938624
in defence of all chinese people, all movies from that era look like that. Chinese never understood that film needs subdued acting so we treat cinema as if its stage acting with exagerated movements and all.

tldr chinese make shit films by default.

>>50938624
Looks like a Hong Kong movie, but it's an American tank. Is it a Taiwanese film?

>>50940765
Looked it up myself, HK film filmed in Taiwan.

>>50940765
Chinese (the republic, not the commies) used M18s during the war and the Type 64 is based upon it. So they might still have a couple of captured ones somewhere?

>>50940805
Ok, ignore >>50941124 then. If its filmed in Taiwan then they certainly have M18s there. They got more than 200 in the 50s.

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>>50941124
I'm sure you know this, but for the other anon, they had Shermans and Stuarts in Burma too. The US supported the Chinese nationalists a bit, even sending the odd general to check in.

I'll never forget the moment I found out General Stilwell called Chaing Kai-Shek "Peanut"

>>50941164
Yeah, but the Hellcat makes no sense there, when a standard, ol' reliable Sherman can knock out literally anything Tojo can throw at them.

Also, not sure if open-topped turrets in an ambush-rich environment would be a good idea.

>>50941186
>open-topped turrets in an ambush-rich environment
probably be good for spotting ambushes.

The M-18 had an air-cooled engine that sucked air through the entire body during operation, so would have been good for keeping cool in the hot jungles. Pretty maneuverable too.

I suppose the weapon just enables them to engage from distances where their paper-thin armor is out of range of enemy weaponry. My guess is the Chinese forces didn't get the nice Uber AT rounds that the US did.

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>>50941164
>I'll never forget the moment I found out General Stilwell called Chaing Kai-Shek "Peanut"

Vinegar Joe was a grizzled old bastard, he didn't have a nice word for anyone.

>>50938624
this is wonderful

>>50938687
Shit!! At least that tank isn't nearly as bad as the tanks in Patton where you have chaffee's trying to be shermans and m80 pattons trying to be every german tank.

>>50941132
Do you think the Chinese invading Taiwan right after the civil war wrapped up make for a fun game? Maybe using Korean War era kit?

>>50934618

I just think it'd be cool to have a classical army sitting on my shelves, can't get much better than Alexander The Great

>>50944154
those oiled hoplites, the gleaming bronze, hundreds of spears held aloft...

>>50944154
I have the same feeling about a nice medieval army from the Perrys.

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>>50944154
This is why I got into 18th century stuff with big units and varied uniforms.

I'm no olicana (pic related) but... maybe one day.

Own production! Osprey - OWG 009 - Fighting Sail - Fleet Actions 1775-1815.pdf
http://www71.zippyshare.com/v/WbCUPXtd/file.html

>>50912910
>>50918893

Or would an email be better?

I scanned the Band of Brothers booklet that contain simple explanation how to play the game. Can it be of interest?

>>50945953
sure. always welcome.

>>50945915
I added you as a friend, apologies for the delay, I've been at work and missed it because (You)s don't seem to be working.

>>50944525
So where would be the safest place on an 18th century/Napoleonic battlefield? With the artillery train? Alongside the higher officers?

>>50946336
Higher officers died all the time, and espescially the french ones placed themselves in great deals of danger to impress the troops. Napoleon expected his generals to be couragous.

I would geuss the logistic units (bakers and the like) would have it safest.

>>50946336
Well, trains in general would probably be safer, as would units not directly involved in the battle, which happened quite a lot. Of course, then your nice cushy position in the pontoon train turns into desperately trying to get a fucking bridge up and some battalions across before the enemy show up. Logistics in the period was also... not as developed as the 19th century Nappies. Things were slow, and supplies were a pain in the arse.

Artillery would be a target and suffer counterbattery fire, which isn't nice.

Eh, just try and get into a unit that gets paid more, some grenadiers or something. If you go horse, make damn sure you get proper heavy horse and not dragoons - the main difference is that dragoons got paid less, shittier uniforms, and cheaper horses. It's not a period where dragoons were mounted infantry - they're just cheaper horse.

>>50947079
laughingenglishmen.jpg

>>50947580
hey, it took england forever to realise that you know maybe you should have professional artillery people and not round up a couple of officers and random people off the street every time a war comes along

well I mean

it took everyone a while to learn that

>>50947648
I was referring to the shade you were throwing at dragoons.

>>50947689
It's accurate, the poor fuckers. That's why they raised so many regiments of them. They're literally "those cool horsemen you like in your armies, but cheaper!" They can do all the fun stuff, they can ride around, they can help keep the infantry from wandering off when foraging, they can ride over to some distant village and come back with horses loaded with food.

But they're cheaper.

>>50947745
Do you know what the penalty is for plunder, sir?

>>50947768
it's not plunder

it's foraging and requisitioning essential military supplies

that's why you have the dragoons out while the infantry are foraging, keep them from getting distracted and stealing stuff that won't feed the army, and also from deserting, oh, and I guess screen for enemy scouts but really nah just keep the boys in line

>>50947853
Nigga...

>>50947648
>it took everyone a while to learn that

Well first they had to invent the concept of being loyal to a nation not an individual, and to invent the logistical and taxation systems required to support professional armies.

Also holy shit the sushi captcha actually had 3 images of sushi not like piles of rice or scallops or bread.

>>50947888
Nah, they just had to stop disbanding the artillery trains and telling all the experienced soldiers to fuck off when the fighting was over.

C18 britain had working taxation.

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BTR

>>50950506

>Warlord will never make a cold war bolt action

Fuck me.

>>50950763
The Battlegroup guys, however, will bring one out (eventually, their next book is Battlegroup: Tobruk I think).

And it'll probably be better.

>>50950763
just play force on force. its cold war supplement even has goofy fantasy scenarios that should appeal to the sorts of people who play BA.

>>50950763
Pretty sure they are, and there was at least one free version called Fully Automatic going on that was published in I think Miniature wargaming and is bound to be on someone's block because it's only a page of changes to the rules if even that, and fuck you for wanting that and making me remember that if I ever am gonna get my players doing cold war stuff the gits will want to do it in the laziest way rather than actually learn a good system because learning anything that doesn't function like the 40k they grew up with is too much like work and they don't care about the history anyway. Fuck.

>>50912449
Glad you like it USAnon! I hope the gaming with your kids goes well!

Also, interestingly the granola bar box is just what Canadian food is like. We use French and English packaging regardless of what province you're in.

Hope the job went smoothly and have a happy New Year!

>>50922143
How did you make the buildings?

>>50951745
printed out color images of period buildings, then glued them to some old boxes I had lying around.

You can see it WIP on the ostfront forums:
http://ostfrontgame.freeforums.net/

Under miniatures, painting and terrain

>>50950926
What are the appeals of Battlegroup. As someone who just tried to look it up and found that they don't have a site anywhere.

>>50954759
This will give you a rough overview of how battle-group plays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF2ry7BfKgU

The spotting and command mechanics seem to be some of the distinct features. I find the vehicle damage and AT fire rules somewhat lacking though.

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The SAS 1983–2014 (Osprey Elite 211)

Highly-trained and immensely skilled, the SAS are widely regarded as one of the best Special Forces units in the world. Their missions are uniquely diverse, ranging from counter-terrorist responses at home and abroad; counter-insurgency in collaboration with US Delta Force and other foreign Special Forces; mobile operations in support of conventional forces; targeting terrorist leaders and man-hunting war criminals, to 'direct action' raids. This book charts the changing organization and operational emphases of the Regiment over the past 25 years; its individual deployments and operations, including those planned but aborted, joint missions with other British and foreign units. It sheds light on the SAS's involvement in the Troubles of Northern Ireland, their operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and the widespread use of the SAS in counter terrorism and counterinsurgency operations since 9/11.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/umukzy9z6vcde8w/Osprey+-+ELI+211+-+The+SAS+1983-2014.pd

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>>50944760
Thanks Jazz! Keep 'em coming

Fighting Sail: Fleet Actions 1775–1815 (Osprey Wargames 9)

In the years between 1776 and 1815, grand square-rigged sailing ships dominated warfare on the high seas. Fighting Sail is a tabletop wargame of fleet battles in this age of canvas, cannon, and timbers. Players take on the roles of fleet admirals in battles ranging from the American War of Independence to the Napoleonic Wars and the War of 1812. Each fleet has access to different ships, tactics, and command personalities - each with its own strengths and weaknesses. Offering a unique blend of detail and simplicity, the scenarios included enable the recreation of historic actions or 'what-if' scenarios. Join the battle and experience the adventurous age of the fighting sail!

http://www.mediafire.com/file/r0fnkkf77hhwqpf/Fighting+Sail+-+Fleet+Actions+1775-1815.pdf

>>50950961
Man, sometimes end your sentences.

Is there any good first world war miniatures? I'm looking something less Epic and closer to 28mm.

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>>50955948
there's a shit ton in 20mm, pretty sure there are heaps in 28mm:
http://www.renegademiniatures.com/ww1.htm
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=345217
http://wk.frothersunite.com/sc/pulp/ww1.htm
http://scarabminiatures.com/

So what are the "best" 28mm late-as-possible-period Winged Hussars?

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Jazz strikes again

Poseidon’s Warriors: Classical Naval Warfare 480–31 BC

Poseidon's Warriors is a set of wargaming rules for large-scale naval actions between fleets of Classical galleys from the Greek and Persian clash at the battle of Salamis to the battle of Actium that decided the fate of Rome. With so many of these battles taking place around islands or in narrow channels and shallow waters, sneaky tactics and cunning manoeuvres are a hallmark of warfare of this era, and the rules use an integrated turn system to allow a commander to position ships to go in and ram without being rammed in return, or to employ feints and traps to tempt the enemy out of position and leave his ships vulnerable to a follow-up strike. With data for ships throughout the period, rules for famous admirals, historical scenarios, a campaign system and a brief historical summary for those who wish to refresh their memory of the era, Poseidon's Warriors offers everything players need to bring to the tabletop the battles and campaigns of the first great age of naval warfare.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2brfyaxjbzpoopv/Poseidons+Warriors+-+Classical+Naval+Warfare+480-31+BC.pdf

>>50956440
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If I don't find the time later this evening, happy new year!

>>50957777
...Why is there a guy on the right that looks like he's shooting death rays at nazis from his goggles?

That aside, nice looking table.

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>>50957837
Took me a while to see it. Can't unsee now.

>>50957777
Is that plane held up by wires in the contrail smoke?

>>50958923
Yes.

>>50959067
Neat

>>50950763
That'd be pretty cool, as long as they had better rules for armoured units. I like Bolt Action's playstyle, but the tanks really do suck.

>>50959067
How the hell? I assume there's either magnets, weights, or an anchoring mechanism beneath the smoke?

Anyone got any cool tutorials or reference pics of making wake for warship minis? I'm rebasing my whole fleet so might as well find something better.

>>50960542
Yeah could easily be any of those.

>>50961166
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's the magic you get taught after 40 years of wargaming.

Happy New Years /hwg/!

Happy new year in advance /hwg/

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Pleasant Arbitrary time period number get /hwg/.

>>50963245

what game?!

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>>50963282
http://pikeandplunder.vexillia.com/2014/12/marignano-1515-first-day-scenario.html

>>50963365

Gorgeous minis. Is it made by the same guys that did the new plunder skirmish game?

>>50963396

Nevermind I'm retarded.

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>>50963365
I've been jealous of this fucker for ages now.

>>50964681

That moment when you don't have friends to play pike and shot or black powder with...

shit sucks.

>>50869746
Help me lads, commence me my large purchase of brigade games 1812 was a good one, I didn't even buy that much but the exchange rate was merciless.

Got myself, both sets of Canadian militia and the command, Cadwells rangers and the british command in tophats as well as the French savant set (for npc's/civilians)

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>>50965559
You lose points for 28mm but if you're interested in the period and are realistically going to build/paint the models it's probably an OK purchase.

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>>50965559
Or another way to look at it: Have you covered all your essentials this month like groceries and rent? Do you have a ~6mo reserve of cash emergency fund? Have you put 10-15% towards retirement? If yes, then go ahead and spend whatever you want on minis.

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>>50963245
>>50963365
>>50964681
Those kiels are beautiful. Pike and Shot period doesn't get enough love.

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My first time working with greenstuff. I'm really blown away by it. What a wonderful thing. I'm convinced with a lot of practice there are a number of doors opening for me!

What do you guys think? I made the tarp to cover the crew area for Bolt Action. My friend pointed out that the tarp is a little out of scale.

>>50966308
looks pretty good, perhaps add some indentations where the tarp would have holes to be tied down?

Also I've found PVA-soaked cloth can work pretty well for tarps. easier to work with and gives a thinner result.

>>50966506
Oh yeah! Good idea. I'm planning to make cuts into the edges of the tarp In a few areas, to give it a used look.

I will have to try the method you mentioned. I love this hobby, there's always more than one way to do it!

>>50965900
To answer that, I have a paypal account set aside a ''fun fund'' I refill it cash wise by selling older miniatures/books I have no use for so it does not dip into my regular food/bills money.

I am also a jobless student though but have cash put aside to get me through my masters(history fuck yeah).

As an aside a girl in my class who does gender studies referred to it as ''herstory'' and I honestly wanted to retch.

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Any anons who grabbed the converted pdf of the Austro-Hungarian Cruisers & Destroyers Osprey might like to upgrade to true pdf:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/1k1c3c35odkrnfs/Osprey+-+NVA+241+-+Austro-Hungarian+Cruisers+%26+Destroyers+1914-18.pdf

>>50966910
>As an aside a girl in my class who does gender studies referred to it as ''herstory'' and I honestly wanted to retch.
As someone with a BA and MA in history this is a common joke, are you sure she didn't mean it as such?

also get a job, that's how I paid for piles of lead at uni

>>50967887
When a gender studies person says it...it's not a joke.

>>50908715
To be fair, it's very hard to not fuck up when you have practically the whole of the rest of Europe coming to stomp on your bollocks.

>>50968178
He should have split austria in three kingdoms after his first conquest of vienna. He also should have hung Talleyrand and Fouche

>>50968329
To be fair to Napoleon real life isn't like a Paradox game. No way could he have split Austria into 3 kingdoms after Austerlitz. Even after the 1809 campaign this would have been close to impossible.

Besides in this period he was trying to convince the monarchs of Europe he wasn't a Jacobin trying to remove them all from power, splitting the Habsburgs into 3 would not have done much to settle the other Monarchs of Europe.

Tsar Alexander convinced him to keep the Kingdom of Prussia (mostly) intact after 1806 despite Prussia being much smaller than Austria, and Jena-Auerstadt being a much more disastrous defeat for the Prussian military than Austerlitz.

>>50966910
please explain the origin is the Greek historia meaning research & finding stuff out - nothing to do with him or his
Also you might ask which her-stories in the patriarchal societies of the past amounted to being worth study - if you want the full half-hour argument

>>50968878
>please explain the origin is the Greek historia meaning research & finding stuff out - nothing to do with him or his
>implying she actually thinks history is a portmanteau of his and story

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How does a europoorfag procure this desirable "2.5mm Radius Deluxe Corner Rounder Punch Cutter" with getting butt-raped with shipping fees? or any local equivalent shipping from within Europe? plz halp

>>50970453
*without getting butt-raped, goddamnit

More Osprey Ships! Osprey - GNM - Ship Spotters Guide.pdf
http://www114.zippyshare.com/v/wwi2EqQi/file.html

>>50965900
>Have you put 10-15% towards retirement?
Actually, you can designate part of your gaming purchases as an investment in retirement. Got to build up the lead pile for future painting, and something to play when you have free time.

>>50968431
>real life isn't like a Paradox game.
My immortal Fylkir-Empress is judging you, and her hundred great-granddescendants are raising their armies to smite you into the gr-- fuck, how the fuck did I get killed? [gavelkind ensues]

>>50970496
So much boot-luvin, bless you!

>>50970453
try amazon? dont they have distribution centers over in europe?

Did we ever decide on a group project theme for January?

>>50971322
Negative, as far as I know.

Are there any good battlerep videos or channels you guys like that cover historical wargames?

>>50971456
Personally I don't think wargames make for compelling viewing, much rather a good blog than a youtube video. Plenty of good blogs, but rather depends on your topic which ones you want.

>>50971559
Yeah in nearly all cases I prefer text over a video, especially for something the a battle report. Board games and war games don't move fast enough for video, it's the wrong medium

>>50972161
They could be interesting but the amount of work it'd need is quite huge as the rules system would need to be explained, the fluff would need to be explained, there'd need to be commentary on plans and intentions of the players, a lot of the game would need to be edited out but also what's there would need additional graphics added in much like a sports game where they put in arrows and stuff to indicate key players and directions of movements.

All of that is much much easier in blog/magazine format due to lack of animation.

>>50969285
There's an easy way to find out if she's that stupid or not. Ask her if she also insists on calling it "himpes" instead of "herpes".

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>>50971322
I think taking a Dec-Jan break was a good idea. I'm not sure anyone finished the last project, and we're all busy with Christmas/New Years and holidays. It might be worth making the next one bi-monthly? (ie. Jan-Feb-March)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2sYtq7hI74

"A lot of men!"

>>50973188
Bi-monthly would be very other month I.e. 8 weeks per project.

Not a bad idea though

>>50973454
Yeah, but roll over used to be the 16th.