Pathfinder General /pfg/

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I had so much rum yesterday and I didn't even get drunk. I'm getting much better at spacing out my drinking! Which helps because topics like this only make me want to drink more.

Lewd game GM from last thread, would the Black-Iron Knight (Knight Disciple antipaladin conversion) be an acceptable class for your game?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pl00apM9VDmhmLQZxzYJMmY6QLrLFhap3vH7bXnKtgg/edit

What is the best class and why is it bard?

>>50868309

Is the GM still recruiting for this game?

>>50868410
Yes, applicants haven't been chosen yet. Next session at ~1am on Jan 5th.

>>50868283
drinking helps me block the feeling of loneliness for a moment

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>>50868251
I am not feeling particularly cute right now but things are fine otherwise and can get better! I am waiting for some answers and then I'll get to making my kitsune widow. Still can't decide if she should be refined ara ara~ or youthful but secretly very old. Currently I am leaning on the latter's side. Anyway, thanks, cuteposter!

Just wait a bit next time with that thread.

>>50868473
How many children does she have?

>>50868469

I just took the advice of that last guy and drank a glass of 30 proof while on anti-anxiety medication.

It felt super weird and I got light-headed! I'm feeling sorta better now, but now I'm just a little bit awkward when I used to be smooth!

>>50868473

I'd suggest refined ara ara~ simply because Kitsune MILF that's notably older is super rare!

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Opinions on the family sigil/motto:

>>50868484
what does proof even mean
im asking as yurop

>>50868497
I guess the tree is related to the enemy state
Refugee from there?
Related to it somehow?

>>50868473
Totally go mature, young are a dime a dozen, a mature woman is a real treat.

>>50868283
... oh. OH.

That said RUM.

Fuck, that had a seriously fucked up kind of meaning there for a moment.

>>50868479
Yes.

>>50868503
It's the amount of alcohol in it. 30 proof is 15% alcohol.

>>50868503

Alcohol by Volume, divide proof by 2 and you get the percentage.

30 proof is 15% ABV.

>>50868508
Character spent over a decade as a spy and agitator there. What the actual meaning is that during his time as an ambassador to Andoran he discovered corruption in Molthune to sell secrets to the Steel Falcons who in turn sold secrets to Nirmathas and Greenglade in particular. He plans on rooting out the at home corruption.

>>50868510
You say that but because of that attitude all the women in our party are like three times my character's age and average twice widowed or divorced...

That's not hot, that's like travelling with your mother and your aunts.

>>50868526
>>50868527
Huh
Shit man
I have been been drinking 40 loud or "80 proof" vodka after I came home from family dinner
Although I got only half of the bottle left from my friends visit, need to take it slow

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>>50868497
I like the motto and color scheme but the tree symbol irks me.

>>50868495
I will begin to write and see what comes naturally. I am not a big fan of MILFs but a refined lady type has its merits. Spry girl who's really over 300 would be such a fun contrast, though. Maybe I will try to mix it somehow? Also, I would like to avoid being TOO old because then I would have to explain why she's still only level 3. Some of that could be years spent comfortably as knight's wife but there's only so much you can excuse that way.

>>50868479
Who knows! First idea was none with the Molthune knight but maybe there was a pair of siblings? Oldest son could die in a skirmish while the younger daughter went off to search for her own fortune. Or something.

>>50868440

Might you have a link to the game?

>>50868440
Is the chargen still the same one as posted? asking for confirmation as it is 3 weeks old. Also, are bloodforge feats allowed? Thinking about picking the Aerial Wings line.

>>50868560
>Is the chargen still the same one as posted?
Yep
>Are bloodforge feats allowed?
No idea, I'm one of the players who happened to see the GM recruiting last thread and I think they're busy now.

>>50868554
Linked in last thread >>50867272

Posting again since I didn't get many replies.

What spheres would an investigator need for combat stuff? I think shift time from the time sphere would be nice potentially but I'm unsure if I'd need more than one swift per turn ever. Are there any that help facilitate studied combat/strike?

>>50868122
What do you mean by full cheese? All I can think of is energy blade, improved energy blade and focused sphere group with shift time to study and blast on a full round.

Updated the children with Alignments. I rolled for them weighted:
1-25: LN
26-40: LG
41-55: LE
56-75: TN
76-85: NG
86-90: CG
91-95: CN
96-98: NE
99-100: CE

Children:
>Nalga - (Mother: Sena; Age: 29; Sex: Male; Alignment: LN; Race: Hobgoblin; Unmarried; Currently in military service)

>Ira - (Mother: Eri; Age: 27; Sex: Female; Alignment: NE; Race: Human/Hobgoblin; Married; Raising her two children)

>Emma - (Mother: Eri; Age: 27; Sex: Female; Alignment: LN; Race: Human/Hobgoblin; Unmarried; Currently in military service)

>Tessara (Tess) - (Mother: Velgath; Age: 26; Sex: Female; Alignment: LG; Race: Elven/Hobgoblin Bloodmarked Skinwalker; Unmarried; Currently in military service)

>Sarrin - (Mother: Eri; Age: 25; Sex: Female; Alignment: LE; Race: Human/Hobgoblin; Engaged; Owns a smithy)

>Nimmi - (Mother: Sena; Age: 25; Sex: Female; Alignment: LN; Race: Hobgoblin; Unmarried; Currently in military service)

>Sibil - (Mother: Sena; Age: 24; Sex: Female; Alignment: NG; Race: Hobgoblin; Unmarried; Aspiring painter)

>Uri - (Mother: Sena; Age: 22; Sex: Female; Alignment: NG; Race: Hobgoblin; Engaged; Currently in military service)

>Vella - (Mother: Sena; Age: 17; Sex: Female; Alignment: LN; Race: Hobgoblin; Unmarried; Sent to Korvosa for her education)

>Golgrat - (Mother: Anri; Age: 16; Sex: Male; Alignment: LN; Race: Hobgoblin/Human; Unmarried; Living with his mother in Almas)

>Kiri - (Mother: Sena; Age: 15; Sex: Female; Alignment: LN; Race: Hobgoblin/Human; Unmarried; Being trained by Kurat)

>Lilla - (Mother: Anri; Age: 12: Sex: Female; Alignment: LN; Race: Hobgoblin/Human; Unmarried; Being raised by her mother in Almas)

>Dedri - (Mother: Shirin; Age: 7; Sex: Male; Alignment: LG; Race: Hobgoblin/Human; Unmarried; Being trained by Kurat)

>Turi - (Mother: Sena; Age: 5; Sex: Female; Alignment: TN; Race: Hobgoblin; Unmarried; Too young for training)

>Dilak - (Mother: Shirin; Age: 2; Sex: Male; Alignment: LE; Race: Hobgoblin/Human; Unmarried; Too young for training)

>>50868655
Chaos/Law Axis:
55% chance of being Lawful
33% chance of being Neutral
12% chance of being Chaotic

Good/Evil Axis:
30% chance of being Good
50% chance of being Neutral
20% chance of being Evil

Is there a way to do permanent, cosmetic alterations with Spheres of Power, or do you have to be level 10 in order to even do magical plastic surgery with the ruleset?

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>>50868655
>Tessara (Tess) - (Mother: Velgath; Age: 26; Sex: Female; Alignment: LG; Race: Elven/Hobgoblin Bloodmarked Skinwalker; Unmarried; Currently in military service)
>she's LG too

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>go look at half-elf FCB for investigator again
>mfw +1/4th level to inspiration die roll
>mfw that's effectively a bonus to damn near everything
>skills, attacks, saves, damage, possibly more
>mfw often for F R E E for skills, and lategame attack/damage as well

How the fuck hasn't that been errata'd, god damn. This is exactly the kind of shit paizo would freak out about. I wish more races had this.

>>50868846
I wish more races had fcbs for investigator at all

>>50868885
I do too. I wish more races had cool FcBs in general, though. So many classes without fcbs, so little attention given to them.

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>>50868922
Actually, you know what, why aren't there universal class-specific FCBs? Everyone can pick from HP or a skill point, but why can't ANY race who picks up Rogue grab the +1/6th Rogue talent, or ANY investigator pick up the +1/4th to inspiration rolls results, or ANY magus pick up a bunch of cool new special weapon qualities? It would make life so much easier for designers and players if they didn't have to hope and pray their race would get added and be blessed with a good class-specific racial FCB.

>>50869049
We do actually have precedent for that now.

On the race side of it at least, since Kitsune can take part of a magical tail feat as their FCB regardless of class.

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>>50869079
>mfw humans get +1/6th a bonus feat as their universal FCB

>>50869049
>appear to be female
he sure does

Is there reason to play Wizard over Arcanist?

>>50869131
Earlier spell levels, broken archetype combos, only needing 1 minute to prepare individual spell slots via a wizard feat, more spells/day.

Arcanist is better if you want to be lazy with your spells and don't mind the delayed progression. Wizard is for when you want to maximize everything.

>>50868655
somehow as I went down the list I expected Turi to say 'married' there.........

>tfw the DM killed my character's wife in the background
i couldn't even save her

>>50869131
Exploiter Pact Wizard.

>>50869298
Your DM is a total shitbag and a scrub.
Everyone knows the emotional impact would be even more devastating if you were allowed to try and failed, watching your loved one get slaughtered because you couldnt save her.

>>50868655
>11 kids old enough to be married/be betrothed
>1 is married
>2 are engaged
>8 unmarried
Is it because they're hobgoblins, and hobgoblins are ugly?

>>50869298
Ouch, anon.

The only time my character had a family member die, at least I got to catch a ride there ASAP and see them on their deathbed.

>>50868655
DHB pls.

>>50869131
Exploiter/Pact wizard does everything an Arcanist does and more.

>>50869319
>>50869327
my party arrived in my home city and my character was so excited to introduce her friends to her wife
they get to her house and she's laying there in a pool of her own blood
next thing i know, my character is being thrown in prison for killing her wife

shit's bull

>>50869312
>>50869344
>using illegal rules

>>50869324
Now anon that's just uggo shaming. They can't help that they look like that even though they feel they should be beautiful.

>>50869336
What kind of autism compels a man to such detail?

>>50869345
Tell your GM to cut that shit out.

>>50869359
>illegal rules

where is it illegal, save maybe PFS or any sane GM?

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>>50869345
>A known person returns home with a group
>He and the group is found at a murder scene
>The Victim is his beloved wife
>The party dont have a single drop of blood on them or their weapons
I mean... the only logical conclution is to throw him in jail

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>>50869360
Hobgoblins are surprisingly attractive m8

Pic related is an actual official female hobgoblin.

>>50869372
>>50869379

i complained and he gave me some bullshit like "thats what they get for being lesbians"

like god damn man why you gotta do that to me, the party was mad too, my magus had spent weeks in game telling them how happy she was to have friends to introduce to her wife and that her wife would make them all dinner and so on

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>>50869380
For Human/Hobgoblin hybrids I was thinking something like this. Of course not in such savage garb.

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>>50869398
>"that's what they get for being lesbians"
What? I... What?

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>>50869398
Wait.. so you are telling me your character was thrown in jail, suspected of murder.. because they were gay?
How many dicks did your gm currently have in his mouth as this was playing out?

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>>50869411
Or this

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>>50869398

>>50869415
>>50869439
i don't fucking know man
it's his homebrew setting
i asked if there was a city that my magus and her wife could live in and not be bothered, he said yes, so i had them live there
then this happens and he claims that the wife was murdered for being gay and then my magus was accused of it and thrown in prison for being gay
i'm close to just quitting at this point

>>50868655
This is the kind of shit DHB does that ruins games. He can go fuck himself.

>>50869479
>ruins games

I... Nothing about this is particularly harmful. It's turboautism, yes, but it's not harmful.

>>50869479
Just let him be
It is not going to impact the game itself

>>50869380
Fuck, tough no-nonsense hobgoblin qts where?

>>50869462
Do it phaggot.
Like seriously, your dm is clearly just pulling shit out of his arse and slapping it around, not giving a fuck about anything already decided within his world or about the characters residing there.

>>50869487
I don't even really see it as turboautism. Heck, having a detailed family is important to a character, especially one with noble ambitions.

>>50869462
Sit him down and tell him that killing off your character's relative and not giving you anything to do about it is in incredibly poor taste, and that you'd really like it to be retconned. If he accepts, good. If he refuses, you've now got two choices. Either leave, which is what I recommend, or turn the campaign into "Resurrect my wife and make a turbo-gay nation."

>>50869298
>muh backstories

You got rektd fgt!

>>50869462
>i'm close to just quitting at this point
Do it. It's not like you're gonna gain by staying.

>>50869517
>tfw DHB killed his own wife in his backstory

>>50869507
>>50869516
i'll quit tomorrow if he doesn't give me a GOOD explanation as to why my wife just gets murdered while i'm away but just in time for my character to be framed for it

it's weird, he was totally cool with it when we started over a year ago, but ever since the election he's been making comments about my character's life choices

what's the fucking point of RPing if you don't do it as something nothing like yourself?

>>50869462
You two should've probably cleared the idea of a homophobic prejudice beforehand.

I'm guessing he didn't go over this with you.

>>50869533
>GM lets politics influence their campaign
Yeah, fuck what I said about potentially staying. Bail on that shit now.

>>50869462
>>50869516
This, only aim higher. Dont settle for a nation. The world is your oyster. Dont go directly for wife-ressurection. Due to the loss of his wife, your character gets depressed, and stray down a dark path. A path of lichdom. Soon after it is obtained, then ressurect the wife. then unleash an undead lesbian army on the world, killing only those who are not gay.

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>>50869445
>>50869411
>>50869380
Also, character art for Nalga, Kurat's eldest son.

>>50869546
It's only a matter of time before he introduced his NOTTRUMP dmpc. then the game devolves into right-wing drivel.

>>50869549
>undead lesbian army
Fuck, I want to play in that campaign.

>Captcha doesn't think McDonalds is food

>>50869542
i told him i wanted to make a magus that married her best friend. i told him that her best friend is also a woman. he said that people may not accept that. i asked if there was a city they could live in where they would be able to live peacefully, not bothering anyone, and he gave me one that he promised would be safe for them. turns out that was a lie.

>>50869549
>magus loses her mind over losing her wife and becomes an angry lich with an army of undead lesbians

well now i have a new objective.

>>50869556
his current DMPC is basically not-milo whatever-the-fuck his name is

>>50869552
how is this hob not married yet?

>>50869591
>Milo Yiannopoulos DMPC
Jesus, this keeps getting worse. If I had money I'd be willing to bet that this guy is in the closet.

>>50869597
Because he's got a woman in every camp.

>>50869591
Ah, in that case I guess it's not impossible that the one city where that shit would fly would eventually have people who may not accept that be in it.

Regardless this is why you never take a significant other if leadership isn't on the table.

>>50869380
>pixie cut
>good sense in arms and armor
>born to strength and discipline
>hips
8/10 would breed a mighty army with.

>>50868655
So, I have found art for Nalga, and Ira, but want to have art for all the family members over 20.

Hobgoblins I can probably handle? However I'm having a tough time with Tess. Does anyone know any good elven/bat like art for her? Searching "elven vampire" (since she is a werebat) gives me a lot of fetish stuff I don't want.

Also I realized, as she is essentially a half-elf likely Kurat's mother and father would not have approved in the slightest. Kurat is more of a progressive when it comes to elves, so he personally doesn't mind and didn't raise his kids to. Also as a half-elf she is longer lives than the rest of them, likely just a bit less than a normal half-elf. So at 26 she is around the equivalent of 20 or so in human terms.

>>50869455
lol underrated post

>>50869533
I'll give you a good reason to quit now, and to tell the party loudly why you quit:

He's lying about his own setting and backtracking on his own words whenever he feels like it. The information he gives the players can therefore not be trusted, because he'll simply change it on a whim after the fact.

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>>50869591
You must make the undead lesbians all vampires. It is a necessary thing.

Especially if the cleric can act like jesus. If not, find someone who can. Also, a mexican luchador.

>>50869591
>turns out that was a lie.
This alone is enough for me to spit blood.
You are the GM, you don't fucking set the players up like that. I could see if you had made enemies among the local powers enough to pull some shit, but saying "hurr yur gay" is the epitome of GM abuse of status. I will bet my next paycheck this is an online game, because people don't have the guts to do this shit in person.

>>50869819
HOLY FUCK. THAT PLOT.

I have to fucking see this now.

Anyone has links for season 7 pdfs?

Can you guys help me figure out a character's alignment, /pfg/?

She's a scientist and businesswoman at heart; she has a sense of ethics. No experiments on unwilling people (though more of a respect for the letter of contracts than the spirit of them), no assuming that your first experiment is correct, no selling customer information. No particular issues with causing pain or things that could be called torture to test subjects, so long as they consented in writing to be part of her experiments--which include generous pay (to next of kin if the subject themselves does not survive), room and board generally speaking. Will NOT partake in kidnapping, experiments, or torture at the behest of another--she is a scientist and an artist, not a thug for hire. She can be commissioned for specific research or experiments, but the subjects will always consent to such.

Aside from scientific ambitions, she has great artistic vision, though her canvas is the body more than word or drawing; a combination of jewelry, dress, body-paint and tattoos and magical transformations being the method in which she expresses herself. These talents are also for sale, but again, only for consenting customers--and those customers can trust that their information will not be sold or abused for further profit.

I'm trying to decide if this is coming out more LN or LE; I'm looking to pick up fleshcrafting, but if the character as described is more LN then I'm not sure what to do about that.

>>50869882
Set your alignment as N and let the GM decide as you play and make decitions

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>>50869850
>The movie begins with Jesus Christ sitting on a beach relaxing and comparing the kingdom of God to a sand castle. He meets up with El Santo and a woman named Mary Magnum. Together they fight lesbian-killing vampires. Jesus fights with mixed martial arts skills and uses his carpentry skills to create weapons to slay vampires.

>>50869882
Could easily go either way, to be honest. How does she act OUTSIDE her business interests?

I am new to rpg and pathfinder. I have a fighter that has reach/cleave and also relies on aops. but it feels like our npcs know gameplay rules better than us and they avoid aops (5 steps) or cleave (scatter around) as much as possible. I am third level and I only cleaved once and never did more than 1 aop per round (with combat reflexes)

Is this normal or our GM just sucks. I feel like I wasted all my feats other than power attack/furious focus. (I am also human btw, that is like 5-6 feats on level 3)

>>50869882
Lawful Neutral/Unaligned.
Having a defined code you rigidly adhere to makes you lawful, being unwilling to pursue your goals at the expense of others, but willing to do cruel things if they expressly agree makes you neutral.

>>50869882
Answer these two questions:
Is she willing to abuse to make herself more powerful?
Does she prefer diplomacy or violence?

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Tell me men, are you a really Molthuni?
Have you ever caught a Nirmathi, like a REAL treasonous anarchist?
Have you ever tried an infantry semi-circle formation?

>>50869918

Outside business interests, she's generally bright and cheery though self-centered; she is the most important person to herself and that shows a little bit, though she's quite willing to help others around her under the logic that a well-liked person is going to be safer than a disliked person, because more people will come help them if they need it. Very enlightened self-interest; not quite willing to go out of her way to help others, but if it would help her to help others, she would--by the same token, though, she is always first, and if someone else has to take a sacrifice for her, well, that's entirely fine.

>>50869921
Your GM is actively nerfing you.
Npcs should not be acting in a way that directly counters your abilities unless they have seen them or you are well known enough for them to be public knowledge.
Your GM a shit, call him out.

>>50869939
>Tell me men, are you a really Molthuni?
Been Molthuni since he was 3 years old.

>Have you ever caught a Nirmathi, like a REAL treasonous anarchist?
Many while stationed in that rebelling province.

>>50869921
>Is this normal
Yes, its normal for Martials to suck ass and require a ton of feats to function
Welcome to Pathfinder, and don't forget, you're here for ever!

>>50869939
Well uuuuh
Naw

>>50869941
I would probably put her into LN, but she could easily be LE leaning towards neutrality as well, the way you describe her.

>>50869882
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/alignment-description/additional-rules

>Lawful Evil: A lawful evil villain methodically takes what he wants within the limits of his code of conduct without regard for whom it hurts. He cares about tradition, loyalty, and order, but not about freedom, dignity, or life. He plays by the rules but without mercy or compassion. He is comfortable in a hierarchy and would like to rule, but is willing to serve. He condemns others not according to their actions but according to race, religion, homeland, or social rank. He is loath to break laws or promises.

Since your character doesn't even remotely sound like that why is it even a question?

Also: >>50869900 Is the right answer.

>>50869937
One: Rules/law abuse, definitely. Loopholes are nothing new to here and she's quite willing to take advantage of them for her own gain, but it's very important for her that no one can say she did anything illegal enough to care about.

Two: Diplomacy first, violence second and ideally after arranging matters to look like the victim.

>>50869968
>Congrats, you are a #1 Molthuni

>>50869973
Well, it seems to me I'll have to show you. Luckily for you I am an Arsenal Chaplain of Iomedae, and as such I have my trumpet on me at all times

>>50869993
Well those answers make it sounds like Lawful Evil.
She knows people cannot take direct action against her if she plays the rules right and cheats when backs are turned.
Pen is stronger than the sword because pen for all its cruelty is polite and nonthreatening.

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>>50868251
I'm feeling very much not-cute knowing that even if the whole human race suddenly acted in the spirit of Christmas the whole year round, nature would be more than happy to fill out our quota of death, chaos, and suffering, and that there will be no peace on Earth until the last eukaryote is killed by the diseases of the last prokaryote.

Anon from last thread with the pc deciding on fear v tripping.
Decided on fear because this dm had to deal with a trip warrior in my last game, and I want new hotness.
Does PF support the escalation of fear effects from demoralization like 3.5 did?

>>50869921
Your GM isn't quite nerfing you, you still have the option to use a different weapon. Namely a ranged one like a composite bow.

What does the rest of your party look like?

>>50869850
>>50869901
Words cannot do this movie justice. None of them. It is...

There are movies made from fun. There are movies made from a vision. There are movies made from a deep-seated need to drink.

Then there is Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter.

More seriously, that's a moment to drop a game.

Also, >>50869882 PF has fleshcrafting? How? Where? I want it...

>>50870046
People gotta die, anon, it's simply the nature of all things.
I've been in a funk for the last few days, hate the holidays, and my ex took me out for a little while, yet couldn't cotton on that what I actually wanted was to see shit, not "go somewhere".
>>50870075
>Your GM isn't quite nerfing you
Bullshit.

>>50869955
Yeah, I will try to avoid future. he is a friend and the person that introduced me to this group so I don't want to call him out.

>>50869972
I already have a shit ton combat feats since I am a human fighter. power attack, furious focus, cleave, cleaving finish and the feat that gives more aops


>>50870075
I am not so sure. he plays the game like it is GM vs players.

just today 3 melee fighters waited for my turn instead of attacking and waited waited. and they were not adjacent to each other so I can't cleave too. when I approach and miss, they all attacked with 5 steps.

>>50870100
>Bullshit.
He said with no argument.

>>50870052
So, there are a few ways to do that.

The Fearmonger Anti-paladin gets stronger the more you cause fear, however the problem is he also gives up cruelties, which are great.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/alternate-classes/antipaladin/archetypes/paizo---antipaladin-archetypes/fearmonger-antipaladin-archetype

As well the "Skill Unlocks" allow you to make intimidation itself push people into Panicked. Take Signature Skill (Intimidate).
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/signature-skill-general

Antagonize, dazzling display, and other do well with intimidate. Hobgoblins have a special feat chain that works off of dazzling display and also buffs your allies.

Enforcer is also interesting.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/enforcer-combat

>>50870052
>>50870127

Damnation feats!

You need two, Soulless gaze lets you stack demoralize attempts. Then you need one more, one deals with alignments, one deals with evil spells and the other is resistance.

>>50870112
>Yeah, I will try to avoid future. he is a friend and the person that introduced me to this group so I don't want to call him out.
>I am not so sure. he plays the game like it is GM vs players.

Sounds like he's both a shitty friend(for having you start with Pathfinder) and a shitty GM. Drop the group and find other people to play with.

>>50870075
All of a sudden the random hooligans you meet out in the wild all wear anti-magic amulets and shit like they fucking knew you were coming
I mean your GM isnt quite nerfing you, you still have the option to use a different way of fighting that your character isnt adept in that basically leaves you fucked ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>*begins Holy Trumpeting*
WE ARE MOLTHUNE!
HEY
WE ARE MOLTHUNE!

Now listen closely
Here's a little lesson in conquering
This is going down in history
If you wanna reclaim the Fangwood
You have to join the corp, is that understood?

Just follow my orders, and charge forth
We'll crush those fools up north!
THE OTHER WAY PRIVATE!

WE ARE MOLTHUNE!
WE ARE MOLTHUNE!
WE ARE MOLTHUNE!

Ha ha ha
Now look at this hamlet I just found
When I say now, settle the town.
Now!
I SAID SETTLE IT, NOT TORCH IT YOU FOOLS!
Ugh, let's try something else

Now here's the deal, watch and learn
We'll trap this ranger when he makes a turn!
Ha ha ha ha
DAMMIT PRIVATE I SAID TRAP, NOT SLAP!

WE ARE MOLTHUNE!
Nanananana Nananananana
WE ARE MOLTHUNE!
Nanananana Nananananana
WE ARE MOLTHUNE!
WE ARE MOLTHUNE!

WE ARE MOLTHUNE!

>>50870115
My argument is >>50870112 and >>50869921, you cunt.

>>50870201
*steps on branch*

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>>50870205
this is not me. anyway thanks everyone, that is all

>>50870214
NO DON'T TOUCH THAT!
*ranger ambush*

>>50869974
>>50870042

So overall about evenly split in answers between LN, LE, or... other alignments entirely.

I guess I'll just put LE, that way I qualify for Fleshcrafting when it comes up, since there's ENOUGH opinion that she could be LE.

>>50870201
this is quite possibly the worst prince-of-bel-air lyrics I've ever seen.

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>>50870214
ITS A RANGER!
GET'EM BOYS!

>>50870230
I thought it was Cory in the House

Is your knight the kind of character who tears up every time he sings the Molthuni anthem? Mine is.

>>50870112
> I am not so sure. he plays the game like it is GM vs players.

So it's just you and the GM playing?

>just today 3 melee fighters waited for my turn instead of attacking and waited waited. and they were not adjacent to each other so I can't cleave too. when I approach and miss, they all attacked with 5 steps.

Again, I still think you should consider ranged options as well. You need both to work, otherwise you're in trouble the second the enemy doesn't play to your strengths.

>>50870269
>you need both to work
Or a GM who realizes that switch-hitters aren't that great in Pathfinder and doesn't force you to play one.

>>50870205
still no argument, are you fucking retarded or just too pussy to type for yourself? Just because the GM isn't playing to his strengths dosen't mean he's being nerfed.

Nerfing him would mean suddenly those three fighters disarmed him and stole his weapon leaving him defenseless or some shit.

So, one other thing about Old Spy is that he has the secret hideout vigilante talent and the Signature Talent vigilante feat from legendary vigilantes.

The plan is 5 floors with 8ft ceilings, and 1 with 10ft ceilings. This means the overall square footage is 15000 sq. ft. That's quite a lot of space.

The plan is for it to be a secret training facility for spies, and it'll grow larger as the character levels. By level 6 or so he can have approximately 64000sq ft. which is HUGE. If he has all 8ft ceilings.

Honestly it seems really odd that vigilante secret hideouts are measured by volume. Would it be prudent to draw the floor plan now or wait?

>>50870304
>Just because the GM isn't playing to his strengths dosen't mean he's being nerfed.
It does if NO enemy plays to his strengths. Being unable to use your abilities is for all intents and purposes the same as not having those abilities in the first place.

>>50868625
>What spheres would an investigator need for combat stuff? I think shift time from the time sphere would be nice potentially but I'm unsure if I'd need more than one swift per turn ever. Are there any that help facilitate studied combat/strike?

The spheres books don't generally do much to help existing classes - even the majority of archetypes are for spheres classes. For investigator, I would go for the utility spheres (your turns in combat are mostly occupied), so some Warp mobility, maybe something from Fate, and the standard War + Battlefield Manipulation + a rally of your choice.

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>>50870260
I know I did the day I was in Canorate during the Anniversary of Molthuni Independence, when Teldas's grandson sang it for the celebration
https://youtu.be/qxqJF_7RCkE

>>50870193
>All of a sudden the random hooligans you meet out in the wild all wear anti-magic amulets and shit like they fucking knew you were coming

How does that compare to his situation? They're not letting him cleave them because he has no way to force or convince them to clump up on him. Unless I missed the part where they had anti-cleave amulets.

In case you didn't know just about any fighter should be adept at some kind of ranged weapon. Bow, Crossbow, Javelin, Splash weapon, something to do other than cry when you have to fight differently.

>>50870385
Adept and capable of using are different things, but to a degree I know what you mean. The issue is that clumping up and spacing out have different advantages and disadvantages. If all enemies are spaced out all the time it doesn't make sense.

>>50870385
The problem is that cleave is a shit feat because it is completely worthless if an enemy takes a single step away from one of his friends, and the poor player fell for it. If the fighter can't ever use the feat, it's worthless, even if it's "ALL DAY".

>>50870425
Cleave really should be just "another enemy within reach". Though then it may be too good because it's essentially a free second attack.

Striking a balance between almost always on and almost always off is difficult.

If I had to do it I would probably make it be a cone attack that you cleave through. You can cleave two enemies in a cone you declare when you start the attack.

>>50870385
The comparison lies within that its strange that entire groups of enemies act like a hivemind and completely deny a character any decent damage output.
Especially considering he said he was lv 3.

Lets assume for a moment they were a group of 3. He was a fighter, the front line. They have a mage and an ranger in additon, which makes up the back line. If he drops the sword and backs off to use a bow (Which he has to, considering he just found out he is fighting the borg and too close of a range on bows gives penalities) he would leave the mage and the ranger open for attacks.

>>50870330
Again it doesn't

Them outmaneuvering him with basic shit like 5ft steps is not the same thing as removing his ability to cleave or attack, or throwing enemies that are just straight up immune to anything a fighter is capable of doing.

>>50870425
Besides, All Day actually means somewhere in the vicinity of 9 to 12 times per day total, assuming it can be used every single combat round.

For melee you can reduce this by 1/3 due to likely needs of movement and other such consideration, so "ALL DAY" actually means 6-8.

When designing abilities, one must thus balance them around this in comparison to, say, ending an encounter 3-4 times.

>>50870467
But the thing is you spent a feat to be able to make that attack, which then gives you a FUCKING PENALTY FOR MAKING THAT SECOND ATTACK. -2 AC is minor, but still a penalty.

It SHOULD be "any enemy within reach", because you are making a unique standard action. If anything, it should be part of a feat chain that ends in whirlwind attack, where whirlwind attack is changed to be "you can make a full attack, applying every iterative to every enemy within reach"

I'm starting Carrion Crown with a new group of players, one of them wants to play as a Necromancer, we also have a water kineticist in the party.

Any ideas on how to make Carrion Crown more interesting in book 1?

>>50870480
>Them outmaneuvering him with basic shit like 5ft steps is not the same thing as removing his ability to cleave or attack, or throwing enemies that are just straight up immune to anything a fighter is capable of doing.

It is, in fact, EXACTLY the same as removing his ability to cleave. An ability you can't use is functionally identical to an ability you don't have.

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Hey, /tg/. How do I make a vampire-type dude using Spherecasting?

Pretty much, Death domain, but without the emphasis on Undead and more on vampirism/blood based shenanigans?

>>50870488
>"you can make a full attack, applying every iterative to every enemy within reach"
Far too strong as I can noodle arm my attacks to a stupidly large reach. Turns into "All enemies in a 60ft sphere die".

If I were to do it cleave would be a 15ft cone. Cleave through changes to a 20ft cone. Get rid of lunge, combine it into cleave so you can take either action but cleaving extends your reach as well.

>>50870269
This >>50870291
The game requires specializing if you want to play a martial. The only good switch hitters are Rangers because of the "ignore prereqs" combat style feats.

>>50870501
However there is a balance for enemies who stand in tight clumps. Tight clumps are suicide in pathfinder because of, but not limited to, the following:
>numerous spells (color spray and sleep at low levels)
>splash weapons (including alchemist bombs)
>cleave
>line attacks
>cone attacks (like fire sneeze)

Spreading out is what any sane person over 7 int in pathfinder does.

>>50870508
I said that should have been Whirlwind Attack, anon, and it should have been the final feat in a chain, not the first thing you can pick up. Cleave should just be "if you hit an attack, make another against an adjacent foe"

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>>50870526
a foe adjacent to YOU, I should say

>>50870502
Take the Sphere Drawback that removes Reanimate and grants you a bonus talent to your Ghost Touch, use that talent to take the Drain talent.

Then invest in the Creation Sphere, using stuff from the Handbook Playtest, and get focused creation and the talents to alter and manipulate Blood with your Creation talents.

>>50870423
That is true I suppose. But in general this is why I feel switch-hitting is the only real way to go. If ranged, I have a response, if they're melee I have a response, etc. Nothing wrong with specializing in one or the other as long as you're capable of both.

>>50870425
I feel like Cleave shouldn't be a feat, rather a weapon quality. Something like a battle axe can cleave while a great axe can great cleave.
It always seemed stupid to me you could theoretically cleave with a cestus or something. Alot of combat feats are very restrictive for both player and GM.

>>50870476
Is it strange though? He's not fighting zombies, he's fighting other fighters. Why do they HAVE to be adjacent just because he took the cleave feat? It would be just as hivemind if they were to always favor his strategy.

>>50868497
Saw the application. I like the character a lot. Definitely would adventure with.

The sigil is a bit odd, but it may just be because I like more minimalist stuff. It's not bad

>>50869597
Gay as fuck

Rolled 7, 5 + 3 = 15 (2d8 + 3)

To my Spheres of Power players.
Is Mageknight a good class or Nah?
What are it's strengths?
What are it's weaknesses
And most importantly, Can it do its job well and not be a "*blank* does it better"?
Also, rolling cuz rolling is fun

>>50870560
>It would be just as hivemind if they were to always favor his strategy.
No-one is saying that they should ALWAYS favor his strategy. But since he invested a significant portion of his character's abilities into the said strategy, a good GM would make sure it's useful at least once in a while.

>>50870560
>>50870622
The problem isn't even that the enemies aren't clumped together, the problem is that Cleave is a shitty feat that doesn't even properly do what it says, and that the GM actively punished the player by neither letting it be useful, nor houseruling it to actually be something useable.

>>50870619
Mageknight is actually super solid. Mystic Combats are great, and Resist Magic is fantastic.

They're only halfcasters, but they need their SP for mystic combats anyway. Alternatively, you could also go into Counterspelling, since that uses your MSB, not your caster level.

>>50870501
You are, in fact, still wrong.
Cleave is never an option for a character without the feat.

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>>50869298
>tfw the DM killed my character between sessions for no good reason. (I was snarky to a guy who turned out to be an assassin and he killed my character in my sleep)

>>50870600
>Molthuni knights game
>three months in
>Kurat's eldest son comes out of the closet
What would old spy do?

>>50870663
It is ALSO never an option for a character who never faces enemies in positions that would let him use the feat. Literally. No. Difference.

>>50870560
Im not saying ''always do so its a cakewalk for pc's'', im saying dont throw three fuckers into a fight made specifically to completely deny a single low level BEGINNER player any of what his character was based around and drain out his fun in the game.
Higher levels sure, be free to make him sweat and his mind race for solutions, but let the guy actually use and enjoy playing his character early.

>>50870667
Any chance the assassin was DMPC?

>>50870524
>Spreading out is what any sane person over 7 int in pathfinder does.
Now you are playing to the system, rather than the situation, which is blatantly metagaming in the worst way.
I'd agree with you if this was say dealing with a dragon, who are well known for their incredible breath attacks, but this is a pc who gives no offhand identifying marks they have an ability like cleave.

>>50870691
He played him for half a session for one mission about a month ago

>>50870670
... make sure the land's inheritance and the family line's continuity is properly ensured?

You've got it easier since you have so many kids, but your duty to your family (not just metaphorically; this continuity directly affects your children and grandchildren's chance to have a future), your land, the people on that land and to your liege demands it.

If he wants to fuck his little pageboys, that's not a problem. But if he refuses marriage and/or doesn't want to ensure heirs of the proper blood, that's what other kids are for.

You do have plenty of kids though, so you CAN free him to go do what he wants; it's if he "wants his cake and to eat it too" that there's going to be a problem.

>>50870291
>Or a GM who realizes that switch-hitters aren't that great in Pathfinder and doesn't force you to play one.

Sorry, not every GM will have your enemies line up and spread their cheeks for you.

I didn't say he had to play a switch-hitter either, I did say he needs to be able to do something more than melee combat though. As a fighter, what are his options outside of that though? Combat maneuvers and AC shit?

>>50870522
Rangers are better because they can ignore pre-req, have spells, companions, and just way more options. Still the fighter is quite capable of being a switch-hitter, a human fighter could have power attack, deadly aim, and quick draw at level 1. From there he can specialize in one or the other but still be able to do something other cry because the GM throws an enemy smart enough not to make the fight easy for you. Also: >>50870524

>>50870619
Well, its definately better than the armorist, I'll tell you that for free.
First off, its a Full BAB clas, and has decent saves and HD for said job as a martial. Resist Magic is essentially what Bravery should've been and is nice, and the Mystic Combats can let you do a few neat things to let you be either a magical warrior, barbarian, or monk depending on your kit.

I reccomend, since you are a Low-Caster, to not invest in too many direct damage spheres, and instead put your very limited talents in more utility based spheres, such as Warp or Time. If you do go Destruction, be warned that you should either get a specific archetype for it, or limit yourself to Energy Blade as your only Shape.

Overall, its a very open class, and just like the system itself it lends itself best to specializing in a specific job as a martial and using magic to enhance it.

Overall i'd rate it at a high T4, maybe a low T3 pending on the build

>>50870712
just in case I wasn't (an probably I wasn't) clear enough:

when I say "that's what other kids are for", I mean someone else gets the title and the land.

not "well that's okay the others will get married for you". Inheritance doesn't work that way.

>>50870622
>>50870638
The GM in question is acting like his npcs know exactly how he fight, which is a trapping of a bad gm, if anything the npcs Should clump up but spread After seeing him cleave. A good GM let's their players use their toys, but not Rely on those toys. A balance between letting the players have their fun and limiting the use of said fun. Not hinderingsaid toys or fun. Do it to much higher and players feel targeted and get angry. It's a game among friends, no one should be getting angry at each other.

>>50870693
>no offhand identifying marks they have an ability like cleave.

>uses a reach weapon

>>50869766
Get in line, Anon

>>50870656
>>50870725
Cool, thanks for the info!
I glanced through the book before and thought warp and time could be fun on one.

>>50870733
That much i can agree with.

But at the same time said ability is pretty situational. What he needs is a way to force that situation, (which I can't think of anyway to force the enemy to be adjacent) or a viable plan B.

>>50870723
>Sorry, not every GM will have your enemies line up and spread their cheeks for you.
Also: >>50870524

>Your group encounters a band of thieves.
>You roll initiative
>As soon as the battle starts, one of the thieves taps his knee to signal to the other ''That guys has a sword, so he clearly can cleave through us all and damage us all at once, dont group up''
>He then clicks his tongue to say ''That person behind there wears a cloak and has red hair! surely they specialize in fire magic! douse yourself in water and drink fire resistance potions!''
>He then rips a huge fart which means ''That person has a holy icon on him, surely he must be a paladin there to heal his comerades! Keep him separated from the others!''

>>50870693
Spreading out is not metagaming because people in world know about splash weapons, spells, and more. Splash weapons are something most NPCs carry around if they expect combat.

>>50870826
They also know about wizards. Congratulations, we're no longer playing Pathfinder, now it's Geek the Mage.

>tfw I want to join Molthune Knights
>tfw all the favorites have already been picked

It's the same problem with RotJR!

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Anyone have experience with vehicles rules from UC? Or similar 3pp rules system?
Planning to start sandbox-game about flying ships and floating islands and don't know what rules i must choose.

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>tfw you will never play a game placed in Goka
>tfw you won't play as an Taldane soldier, there to protect his young charge from political conspiracy that forced the two of you to flee Taldor
>tfw you will never form a strong friendship with an idealistic member of the guard who don't want no trabble as the two of you get into zany adventures together
Why are we here, just to suffer?
I just want to see Not!Legionnaires fighting side by side with Not!Chinese Soldiers

>>50870853
Yes but visually it's hard to differentiate a spell caster and a nerd. Or a Druid and a homeless man. So you spread out just in case because it's the most catch all strategy. You geek the Mage after starts casting spells.

>>50870681
The. Difference. Is that the character without cleave can't cleave even when the option is available though. And 5ft stepping out of the way is hardly grounds for making it never available.

>>50870682
I don't see it working at higher levels, it inevitably becomes a game of initiative. Shit like this probably won't happen in a higher level game. I think he should have a bit of a cake walk and a marathon regardless of the level.

>>50870874
Who are the favorites?

>>50870920

What, you mean like Amanandar? That's a Taldan colony you know!

>>50870799
>said ability is situational
Fair.
And to continue being fair, he technically
has two situational feats. Combat Reflexes is Very situational, while he is stacking the odds more in his favor with a reach weapon, it still is situational.
I think he could justify ditching one or the other in favor of with diversity or More specialization.

>>50870874
>tfw you were planning on applying way early, but the GM opens the game a few days before christmas
>tfw you have to do holiday family things the whole time
>tfw the /pfg/ NEETs get popular, get memed and will get in and you won't
Fuck this. I didn't want to be involved with christmas shit. I just wanted to write a comfy character for a comfy campaign with comfy villages. Not face all this salt and sorrow.

>>50870923
And you toss a tanglefoot bag at the guy in the robes, then run up and cut him to shreds, because it's a low-risk high-reward strategy, given that if you don't take are of him he'll ensure your whole team gets torn a new asshole. If the enemies are using tactics then they can't say 'the guy with the sword OBVIOUSLY has cleave, so let's split up, but the guy in the robes is probably just some random bum who follows them around.'

>>50870938
Probably not the emblem of the god forum, that's for sure.

>>50870814
>Your group encounters a band of thieves.
>You roll initiative
>As soon as the battle starts, your party skillmonkey makes a knowledge local check and signals to you: "Hey these thieves are known to boost gunpowder, they likely use firearms!"

>>50870951

You had fun with your family!

>>50870938

Kurat, Di and that camp follower!

>>50870951
you obviously have internet access. you're not incapable of applying in the least.

>>50870980
weren't all three of those universally reviled by the thread, save for one person aggressively shitposting with anime girls

>>50870951
Man right now I'm in a car driving to my uncle's for Christmas celebrations and I already applied. Heck I work full time too and spent half of yesterday cooking Christmas dinner. You're just making excuses.

>>50870951
The real reason you will never achieve anything is because of how soon you find excuses to give up and not try, anon.

>>50870951
>tfw you don't trust the GM to give every character a fair shot
How about you just apply instead of being a preemptively salty little shit?

>>50870995
so what does that even leave?

>>50870940
whoops, forgot that place exists, though to be fair its location in Tian Xia compared to other provinces makes no sense for it to be a colony of Taldor. If anything, it and Goka should be in opposite places.

>>50870983

What the fuck, anon. Just because we can post here does not mean we can post an entire character and character sheet.

>>50870995
>weren't all three of those universally reviled by one person excessively shitposting
FTFY

>>50871024
If you have access to 4chan then you have access to myth-weavers and a text editor. That's all you need for an application.

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>>50870874
>>50870951

>>50870980
>>50870995
Kurat is Old Spy and he was generally liked for:
>not being a kitsune
>not being a tiefling
>making sense for how he became a knight
>four decades of service
>not a fetish character
>not anime

>>50871042

>Wasting your time on a phone posting paragraphs of text when you could be with your family.

>>50870980
>Fun
I fucking wish.

Yesterday my brother had a seizure in the middle of lunch and had to be taken to the ER. It's snowed a bunch of white bullshit this morning, making it a pain to travel to anyone's houses. I get forced to go to a church service that I ACTIVELY don't believe in. We skip the normal comfy breakfast we have for this service, which has a bunch of shitty singers from the congregation, and a bunch of shitty behaved kids and babies screaming their heads off. All the time, my family is just wondering "Why is Anon so mad? It's christmas!" I fucking know it's christmas, but not once did anyone ask me what I wanted to do. No, we had to cater the whole fucking day to my brother and sister and their families, since lord fucking knows why. Also, the ara~ara~ poster stole my thing and it feels pretty bad, especially since that other anon actually was kind about the whole thing the other day, despite my inability to do anything.

Merry fucking Christmas, /pfg/.

>>50871060
Well gosh anon, I'm sorry your thumbs are too fat and/or you're too stupid to write up three or four paragraphs of backstory. It takes maybe an hour or two, so go to bed late one night or just stop complaining, because the only actual excuse is being retarded.

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>>50871095
>No, we had to cater the whole fucking day to my brother and sister and their families, since lord fucking knows why.
If you have to ask why, I feel like you may not "get" this whole Christmas thing anon.

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>>50871036
>>50871055
I mean, I don't care either way, but whenever those got posted it was always about how shit they were.

>>50871105
It doesnt even take that long if you already have a concept.

>>50870983
>>50870997
>>50871003
>>50871004
>>50871042
>>50871043
And even here I get shat on for trying to find SOME level of comfort in what is supposed to be a happy time of year. Fuck me for trying huh? It's not like I'm a particularly great writer or some shit. I can't just write while I'm doing things with family, even though I would rather do that.

>>50871129
I feel like you might have a family that is nice and pleasant to be around at any given time of the year. Not everyone is as blessed as you are.

>>50871095

Just make a variation of the ara~ara~, maybe a middle-aged Human or Half-elf who's been a career soldier all her life and has grimly accepted she's past her childbearing years. She's proper, refined, and after decades of being a tight-laced military-woman she has a chance to retire and experience all the things she denied herself.

>>50871131
We have an incredibly dedicated shitposter who constantly tries to witch-hunt after DHB every opportunity he can every thread.
He may or may not be the same guy who witch-hunts 2hu and other things, especially judging by the incredibly similar posting style

>>50871152
Nigga, I was the one with the test RP shit that didn't work and ruined a thread with arguing. I shelved the "ara~ ara~" onee-san kitsune shrine maiden long ago. The dream is dead, much like my hopes for a happy christmas.

If I name my dwarf Axebeard Beardaxe am I a bad player?

Alternatively, please help with names. I am so bad

What do people think of Adalbern in Molthuni Knights?

>>50871151
You're trying to find some level of comfort by putting other people down. Don't even try to claim otherwise, you came in here and said 'I'm not going to get in because all of these fucking NEETs are OBVIOUSLY going to get in, so I'm not even going to try.' Fuck off, we're not here to hug you and tell you that you're right and the bad men are just being bullies for being able to put together a character.

>>50871191
Urist.

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>>50871151
Sir and or madam
Are you aware that you are on 4chan?

>>50870712
Pretty sure all these brave knights fuck at least the occasional pageboy. They're pretty cute.

>>50871191
Was his father a drunk? If he was id let it go full force, cause that is funny as shit to me
I also have a bad sense of humor, but i digress.

>>50871191
First, take a vaguely Scottish, Scandi, or Yiddish first name.
For the Last name, take a manly noun, then combine with a simple adjective or some type of stone/metal/gem/alcohol.

Congrats, you are now Urist FlintJaw

>>50871224
>Urist

That is kinda cool.

>>50871242

Well he was a dwarf, so yes.

>>50871206
I didn't mean to put anyone down honestly. I wish I could live the NEET life. I did once for a small time and it was one of the greatest times. I'm just upset that I haven't had time to develop my character at all while the thread has been able to and the GM has been able to read and respond to people in the thread. I'm just whiny and a faggot, like usual.

>>50871226
Yeah, I just thought that maybe I'd find solace here in /pfg/, but that didn't work. I knew that there was that one anon a while back who felt like he couldn't do anything right and the thread helped cheer him up. I was hoping that'd happen to me, but I don't care anymore. This day is shit anyways, why would it get better?

>>50871012
Amanandar, Shokuro, and Jinin are my favorite Tian Xia places.

Lawful Good elves a cute.

>>50871287

We've been trying to help you make the Kitsune girl work, anon!

>>50871191
Ulfang Blackfingers

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Can we not bully each other on Christmas, guys?

Can't we be snug and comfy in this cold weather?

>>50871341
>cold weather

it's 80 fucking degrees right now I hate this place
fuck florida

>Be GM with two players
>One of them's experienced, loves combat, high lethality (to the point he hates having the same character for more than 3/4 sessions), typically doesn't care too much for the story or roleplaying
>The other's very new to RPGs in general, doesn't really care about the gameplay, and is more into the roleplaying and story. Would have zero perma-death if he had his way, and likes to function on 'one campaign, one character.' He wouldn't leave if I killed off his character, but he did say that he'd be a lot less invested if I did in the future.

How do you guys deal with having players who are extremely different from one another? Would it be bullshit to fudge some rolls for the new guy but not the more experienced one behind the DM screen?

>>50871351
Yeah, fuck Florida. Fucking fascist pricks.

>>50871351
>>50871377
>Fuck Florida
Is she hot?

>>50871376
I wouldnt consider it bullshit, id actually say it would make you the goodguy gm.
You are trying to accomodate for both players and make it enjoyable to both of em

>>50871265
>"Nyeh! My father's constant boozing has taught me a valuable lesson!"

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>>50871341
Did you really think there'd be any hope?

>>50871383
No, she's a grotesque slut that takes Cuban and geriatric dicks by the boatload and has a ferocious lust for cocaine.

>>50871376
Some people just can't belong in the same game. Or really, come up with a custom plot for them.
New player is an important diplomat or something and they keep getting involved in dangerous situations and end up burning through bodyguards.

Older player plays a different bodyguard every month after the last one dies or quits. It's their job to put themself in more danger than the other one.

>>50871376
Why would that be a bad thing? One of them wants you to go hard on him, the other wants you to go easy on him, so... do it? Fudging rolls for the lighter optimization guy is just bringing him up to speed with the high lethality guy, and it sounds like the high lethality guy doesn't care what happens outside of combat.

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>>50871151
HOLY SHIT IT'S TRIGGLYPUFF
TRIGGLYPUFF CAME TO OUR BOARD

... Somebody get a pokeball, we can finally breed our snorlax!

>>50868655
Would it be reasonable as a Knight to bring Nalga, Emma, and Tess along for what ever war is on? Because I want to bring my children but I am thinking of how many is too many to bring.

Also I am thinking of whether I should send of any kids to be fostered.

>tfw DM is anal about rules
>mfw he thinks paizo classes are good
>multiclassed crimson countess npc with blood kineticist

My DM is a cool dude but man he's a bit uptight and always follows the rules to the letter.

>>50871151
Actually, technically, people were saying "fuck you for NOT trying", or rather "fuck you for refusing to even try and just bitching"

you sound like a certain someone from my previous group, but she wouldn't try to join a game her boyfriend isn't in.

>>50871422
Good thing the new guy went as an investigator skill monkey then who does more of the story interactions. Older player gets more into the thick of combat (such as barbarians) while the newer guy mostly takes pot-shots at range.

They seem to be having fun so far at least.

>>50871413
I don't. I truly don't.

Everyday it's something new, but never quite different
>bullying because not optimized
>bullying because too optimized
>bullying because doesn't use 3pp
>bullying because does use 3pp
>bullying because he likes race x
>bullying because he doesn't like race x
>bullying because they try too hard with writing
>bullying because they don't try enough
>bullying because fetish
>bullying because not fetish
>bullying because it's Christmas

See >>50871445 and >>50871462

You never change /pfg/. And I wish you did.

>>50871095
and this one day invalidates having several weeks to do this.

>>50871483
Hasn't the Molthune game only been open for like four days?

>>50871450
What you should really do is consider if he'd want any of the other PCs to have a hand in teaching his kids? An archer to be trained by Sir Emeric? A potential politician who would benefit from Di's tutelage?

Someone who wants to be an emblem of the God Forum?

>>50871520
Maybe he wants one to be trained in logistics!

>>50871095
Holy fuck, scrooge, first world problems much?

MOST of us don't believe in that jesuses stuff either. But it's like an hour, it makes grandma and the aunts happy, and you can play Gradius III or plan some character builds out while you idle there.

OR, I guess you could be a triggered little bitch with no patience whatsoever who expects everything to always go your way and throw a tantrum when asked to accommodate the people that probably still feed and clothe you even now.

Next you'll fucking tell us you were offended by some two year old not using the right pronouns.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you.

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>>50871480
War never changes, anon.

And this? This general? It's a war. A war of memes against memes, endlessly rebounding off one another in utter futility. Even if it'd been a great year and people were actually in the Christmas spirit instead of skipping the celebration and just getting drunk, /pfg/ would be the same.

You can be warm inside a home, with family all around you and friends calling from all corners of the globe to say hello and still. Feel. NOTHING.

There's no hope, there has never been hope, and there will never be any hope - not here in our personal Hell.

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>>50871563
I know it doesn't, but something about the season gave me hope, foolishly.

We are the dead.

>>50871227
And that's fine; as long as he doesn't try to go all 21st century on his family and demand he be gay married and adopt some foreign kid.

Those aren't bad things in and of themselves, but you can't just hand the position to that one anymore, or the entire family's going to implode when you need replacing. But, with that many kids abound, maybe the second son, third son, or even first daughter if she's competent enough, could take over for the first.

At which point he's free to have scott thompson help him find his dream dress.

>>50871520
Tess is supposed to an archer and ranger if we can ever get companions to have PC classes.

It really depends on who makes it into the game.

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>>50871563
>and there will never be any hope - not here in our personal Hell.

Not with that attitude it wont.
I personally enjoy the heat down here

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>>50871151
get back in there, your assburger ain't remotely close to well-done.

>>50871596
Well go through one by one, assign one that could work with each PC.

Anyone have some images for a cute musclegirl tiefling? I've been looking around without a lot of success.

I think my next step is looking for ff14 au'ra monk fanart, but I haven't quite done that yet.

>>50871610
What subrace?

Lewd GM from last thread here. Anybody have any questions?

Also, anybody running a lewd game and need a player?

>>50871610
>female au'ra
>musclegirl

Lookin' in the wrong place, buddy.

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>>50871598

Aww yisss time to post hot sloots

>>50871505
Yeah, and there's plenty of time left.
Like I said; this person wants to accuse, not apply.

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Look, I'm sorry about all that stuff. I shouldn't have posted anything like that here, and now regret that too. Not asking you to say sorry or even tone it down. I was a fag and I deserved it. Merry Christmas guys.

Pic related: it's me

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Merry Christmas, /pfg/. Don't let the world get you down. Here, rub my belly.

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Disregard shitposting, acquire discussion on next month's releases.

How does /pfg/ feel that the wizard is getting an Arcane Physician archetype? How shitty do you think it will be? Think one of the 10 total archetypes in the book will be any good? Got anything you hope to see from it?

>>50870092

Drow have some bs like that. It was first introduced in book 4 of second darkness, the AP. I think the horror book had more stuff on it.

>>50871619
Pitborn. Strong and charismatic! And... not super bright.

>>50871631
Yeah, I know. Catgirl might be easier.

>>50871635
Oh shit, thats pretty awesome. Definetly gonna be a char sometime somewhere, thanks anon
Id take a second serving please

>>50871656
Healing will never be good in PF.

>>50869312
>>50869344
>Exploiter/Pact wizard does everything an Arcanist does and more.

No greater exploits, less exploits overall, no consume spell, no sorcerer/wizard hybrid casting, all disagree with you.

Who are your favorite Molthune Knights? Who has the best backstory? Who is the cutest?

Tess is the cutest and she isn't even a PC!

>>50871698
I want memes to end.

>>50871687
Being SAD and not having reduced spell progression are pretty big benefits though.

Also, metamagic reduction.

>>50871656
If we look at white mage for what to expect, it will be awful.

>>50871707
Arcanists are SAD, the only good thing that arcanists get that is CHA based is Consume Spell, other then that most of it is negligible.

>>50871698

I want to see the medic!

>>50871703
What memes?

>>50871775
All the memes about the /pfg/ games. I'm tired of hearing about them.

>>50871780
If you don't like pfg games then maybe you shouldn't be in pfg threads since it's a general about a game

>>50871787
You can like pathfinder without liking the games the /pfg/ crowd makes. Some of us just play in meatspace.

>>50871698
I want to see staypuft get bullied more

>>50871802
Whether you're in the right or wrong, you're in the minority here, and you can't expect the majority to change for you.

The most your complaining does is shit up the threads more.

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>>50871787
>>50871825
>general about a game
>doesn't like games about a general
How does that mean he shouldn't be in the thread? Do you have brain problems? Are you a kitsuneposter?

>>50871787
I love it when you fags use this stupid argument.

>>50871666
That's some decent pic advice! Thanks, Satan, and Merry Christmas!

Aaand that's two more counts of blasphemy. Oh boy am I in for it.

>>50871836
>>50871857
Doesn't mean they're not allowed in the thread, but definitely doesn't mean they should feel their complaints will mean anything.

Here is the real question. How does DHB's new character ruin Molthune Knights?

>>50871589
Oh, absolutely. I agree that duty and propriety are paramount. I merely suggest that if he happens to have an unfortunate buggery habit, it may not cause much trouble at all, since he's not the only one.

>>50871871
I guess we shouldn't post opinions on things neither, it won't mean anything.

>>50871666
Pitborn is easily best girl. All the rest are gross, sluts, or both

>>50871881
>ruin Molthune Knights?
They ruin?

>>50871871
Why would their complaints mean nothing? Just because they are in the minority? I'm not saying that we can't talk about the popular thing that the (debatable) majority of the thread likes, just that their complaints aren't invalid for being unpopular.

I mean, if unpopular things were invalid. society would have removed you long ago.

>>50871900
There's good discussion and bad discussion anon
>I want memeposters to go
won't lead to anything, and unless you're willing to talk more about the issue to come to an understanding so you can better tolerate them (since you're sure as hell not going to be able to make people stop), there really is no point.

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>>50871932
"Better get used to it because the degeneracy isn't leaving" is a terrible thing to say.

>>50871901

Pitborn also have the best butts!

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>>50871095
>Also, the ara~ara~ poster stole my thing and it feels pretty bad
Wait, do you mean the kitsune matriarch/MILF? That wasn't on purpose!

>>50871979
Doesn't stop it from being true in this case.

Really, do you have better realistic advice for the original complaining anon?

>>50871979
I liked Granzon's Degeneracy cannon. It was a good thing.

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>>50871983
>>50871901
>Pitborn
That's some real pleb taste you've got there anons.

>>50871990

Why can't there be two matriarchs, anyway? They'd be playing a dangerous game with each other, trying to get the best marriage offers, best alliances and best dress for the harvest ball!

>>50871983
Easily the best butts, though Hungerseed don't have awful butts.

TFW I'll never have a pitborn paladin waifu.

>>50871993
"Talk about something else" would be the first step. Not perpetuating the memes is another. But even the simple complaining does at least show that there's one guy who doesn't like it. It shows the other people that also don't like it that they aren't alone. So it's not useless entirely to just say that you want memeposters to leave. Here's a hint for life: not everybody likes what you like, and part of growing up (if you aren't an autist) is that you recognize that and learn to accept it.

>>50872015

Div have an awkward stat spread and ugly butts.

Their horns are great but the rest of them is blegh!

>>50872038
>>50872036

Friendly reminder that Pitborn stat spreads make playing a Paladin very easy! Very easy!

Pitborn Chosen One farm-girl sent on adventure by a magical cat!

>>50872052
>+dex/+cha
>graceful and beautiful
>diplomacy and linguistics
You know you want to be corrupted by a spitespawn.

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>tfw you write background and in the middle of it realize you don't actually know what you want with it
>tfw you had like 3 ideas and no realize you don't know how to connect them together in a way that reads well

>>50872091

That's happened to me too many times.

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>>50872075
does it have to be a cat?

>>50872110

It can be whatever it can be, anon.

Turtles *are* allowed! It's even a talking turtle!

>>50872015
Dexterity is the inferior waifustat, especially for butts

>>50872091
>>50872105
>Finally get the background to fully click
>Character dies next session

>>50872044
"Talk about something else" is good advice but just a nicer way of saying "Stop complaining", which was my point.

As for raising awareness... well, there's been complaining for at least a month and I don't expect it to stop, but it really hasn't changed much.
It's like that common pattern you see when people who take pride in disliking a specific fandom become more annoying than the original fandom ever was.

>>50872035
Because everyone has to be a special snowflake! Also, the matriarch part is mostly memery. Originally I didn't plan to include any kids because then i would have to explain why they didn't inherit before her and think about how half-kitsune work. I *may* do it but I probably won't focus on it. Being a foxwife is good enough!

>>50872052
Shackleborn can have cute butts and pleasing figures too. They just like the piercings quite a bit, which turns some away. It's quite sad, because they're very attentive lovers, and they love trying crazy, potentially painful new things.

>>50872166
Who's the most special snowflake Knights? Who are the least? Rate by snowflakeness!

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What does 5-6 Int mean for roleplay purposes?

What about 5-6 Cha?

>>50872173
It sounds like it's crazy stuff until you realize that the entire city has been doing it for years.

>>50872125

This, butts are sculpted muscle, which suggests strength (for size) and charisma (for shapeliness.)

>>50872140

>Get the background to click
>Hyped to play
>Get in session
>You either choke or everyone else is terrible, including the DM

Nothing's worse than bringing a gun to a knife fight, or vice versa.

>>50872189
5-6 INT cannot come up with own ideas often, or their ideas are not very good, unskilled with general skill checks.

5-6 Charisma has trouble articulating their will, will follow orders almost all the time.

>>50872189
They mean whatever you want, as long as they mean /something/.

5 int could mean you're Thog the stupid barbarian, or it could mean you come across as pretty normal but have ultra dyscalculia and an inability to remember casual information.

5 cha could mean you're an overweight redneck or you're relatively handsome but still somehow always fade into the background no matter what you try.

>>50872179
Helvisia is the absolute worst kind of mary sue faggot furry bullshit character and none of the rest even compare.

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>>50872091
>tfw you write your Alchemist as a loving wife and mother who used to work as a chirurgeon to help people
>suddenly remember she's CN and a Beastmorph/Vivisectionist who slashes people to bits with her claws

I really like the character I created too. I'm not sure how to fix this.

How do I get the highest strength score possible at level 1?

I assume it'll involve an Orc with 18 str, but what class will suit this the best?

>>50872239
Be like Jeff Goldblum at the end of The Fly

>>50872239
Become a werebear

This will solve all your alchemy problems.

>>50872266
Barbarian or Alchemist.

Rage and Mutagen have the same effect for this.

There needs to be more good-aligned STRfag races. It bothers me that Creation equates might with heinous evil.