/Hhg/ The Horus Heresy General

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First for the XVI

2nd for chicken

word beaers a shit

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Im starting Solar Auxilia and I have a rules question.

In a Solar Auxilia list, if you give a Lord Marshal a displacer matrix, he is immedietely sent into reserves on an invuln save roll of 1.

Combined with his 3+ invuln, does this mean you can only be wounded on 2's? Or does a roll of 1 wound you AND send you to reserves?

>>50863476
You still take the wound.

>>50863476
Unless the rules say the wound is ignored, then it would seem like result of 1 sends him to reserves and wounds him.

Anybody here play the SW? I'm trying to get some inspiration for my own dudes. I'm planning on doing them up with most of them having some sort of firearm/ccw combination and I'd also like to get some ideas of how to 'dress' them up to straddle the wolf line between the realms of yiffs and vikings in space. If nobody here, then maybe some other places to check. I already know a few, but 2 repeat and 1 new recomendations is still 1 new one.

>>50863531
Add a wolf pelt on some marines, not all of them and only one, give them knives instead of chainswords to give them a certain 'savage' or 'informal' look.

>>50863655
>>50863531
Remember wooden shields :^)

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Got a new compressor for xmas so I decided to get some basecoats down

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Ex-Thousand Sons Revuel Arvida is Janus

>>50863531
Dwarf axes (thunderer kit, at least, comes with loose ones) and high elf spearman swords in scabbard make nice Celtic style CCWs for tacticals. Maybe Chaos Warrior top knots for helmets. Anvil makes capes with fur that fits on Marine backs (leaves a space for the backpack connection).

I made my force a mix of generic legion and SW Celtic, modelling it after something like late Roman legions, a mix of Roman and medieval. Idea is that the leader is a Terran vet, as are some of the old guard, while newer dudes are more Fenrisian, so there's a mix there. Some units will be super Imperial with aquila shoulder pads and laurels on their helmets while others are more SW with skulls painted onto face masks and pelts hanging from armour.

>>50863750
Wasn't my first choice but better than Omegon.

Would it be acceptable if I converted BaC heavy bolters into autocannons by giving them extended barrels?

The Orbital Assault RoW allows your Rapiers to take Drop Pods. According to the Drop Pod entry a single Drop Pod can accommodate a single Rapier and its crew.

How does this work if you have a Rapier Battery of 2 or 3 Rapiers who have formed a squadron? Can you only drop pod down Batteries formed from a single Rapier (a massive waste of an elite slot)?

>>50863130

I got $300 for Christmas to spend of FW. Sadly with local exchange rates that's only worth 100 pounds. What would be the best thing to get for that much?

>>50864273
What Legion do you play?

>>50864309

All of them.

Literally, my overall goal is to have an army for all 18 Legions, plus Mechanicum, Imperial Army and Knights. I want to be able to refight the entire Heresy on my own.

>>50864329
I hope to hear more about this. As for your price limit, you can never go wrong with legion specifics or your basic infantry.

>>50864350

With 120 Plastic Marines (60 each in Mk III and Mk IV) and 50 resins (30 Mk IV and 20 Mk II) I think I have enough men for now.

Weapons and Shoulder Pads will probably be the order of the day.

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>>50864329
....... if this is your budget and your is much better to buy the other 30 betrayal at calth/Prospero and not a deredeo dreadnought

>>50864366
Are you building all legions at once or going one at a time?

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In cannon, are every marines "Vanilla" like Out Of Box Propero/Calth or are they heavily modified like with the FW bits ?

I'm also kinda lost on the MK armor since ot looks like everychapter created their own armor/helmet with fw kits...

>>50864500
I assume that new recruits had standard stuff.

After they go through some battle, they will either need replacement parts or modifications to suit their needs.

>>50864500

They have little extra bits and pieces everywhere plus pouches for magazines and grenades but essentially they look like normal marines

I love some of the more baroque depictions of space marines as I never felt like marines should be all that standardized between chapters in 40k

30k on the other hand they should be vaguely uniform

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>>50864500
I imagine that in the tens of thousands of marines in each Legion, foot-sloggers would have the most generic gear with minimal variety (like in the BaC and BoP sets), while those with experience, that have fought with distinction, or serve under a recognized officer would have access to more specialized or ornamented gear. Some Legions are also more inclined to modifications and personalization, while others are fairly straightforward/uniform

Was Fulgrim finding the Laer blade orchestrated or was that just on accident?

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>>50864809
As far as I remember, it was an accident. The Imperium had run into the Laer on previous occasions, but Fulgrim made a point during that campaign to kill them off once and for all. Unfortunately, the Emperor's Children are notable among the Legions for loving to take trophy weapons from defeated enemies, and sometimes even use them.

>>50864944
who's LL ?

>>50865005
loserstudio blogspot
cant give direct link since it bitches that it's spam

>>50863738
you could use the compressor to clean that wheel

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/new-feat/hh-garro-weapon-of-fate-ebook.html

An early E-Book release. Now I'm not sure if it can be downloaded at present, I've heard someone say it can't be downloaded until 25/02/2017. Can someone confirm this? If it isn't, I might buy it now and share it with /hhg/ as an Xmas Present

>>50865005

Lord Lysander

>>50865317

I'm thinking of downloading one of those $3.99 advent short stories since pretty much nobody is putting it out online. How does GW distribute epubs? Do I just create an account, check out and buy the book, then download it from the BL site under my account?

>>50865449

Pretty much.

Merry Christmas, guys, how's it going?

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>>50865671
uhh, quiet. Thinking about getting a threesome with some hookers (never had one), but Im trying to save money.... So I can start a Dark Eldar army and get into 40k

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>>50865692
>uhh, quiet. Thinking about getting a threesome with some hookers (never had one),
Anon, that's how you get diseases.
>So I can start a Dark Eldar army and get into 40k
In hindsight that makes sense why you want the hookers.
>that girl on the right
That's Mai isn't it?

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>>50865716
Yes. Also, it's illegal not to use protection with escorts in Australia. Although sometimes I have taken head without wearing a rubber...
Is there a high possibility of a Cabal supplement coming out for the Deldar?

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>>50865737
>Also, it's illegal not to use protection with escorts in Australia. Although sometimes I have taken head without wearing a rubber...
Oh course you're an Aussie.
>Is there a high possibility of a Cabal supplement coming out for the Deldar?
This year has been very bloodthirsty but not enough blood has been shed for that so no. That's also the reason why Inferno hasn't been released yet.

Learnaen upgrade kit when?

>>50865317
It's a collection of previously published stories senpai, but thanks anyway.

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>>50865817
Once 2016's bloodlust has been sated.

>>50865737
>that picture
>a naruto movie is actually coming out
>this is reality

>>50864140
I tried doing it, I'd like to see you succeed.

Not being sarcastic, I'm bad at conversion, I want to see someone do it right so I can copy it.

>>50865848
A reverse imahe search leads me to believe it's fabricated.

Besides there's no way my waifu would stoop so low.

>>50865886
that pic isnt real, but there is a naruto movie coming out

>>50863750
Not really. If I understood, it was part him, part Magnus, part his pet demon.

Will we eventually be using GW Plague Marine models for DG by the time we get to the siege?

'Twas the night before Atheistmas when all through the mist
Not a creature was stirring, not even a Fist
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that Leman Russ soon would be there

The Custodes were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of flavoured corpse starch danced in their heads
And Malcador with his staff, and I in my plate
Had just settled our brains for a long winter's respite.

When out in the courtyard there arose such a clatter,
I sprung from my chamber to see what was the matter.
And Magnus, my son, appeared there with a flash,
Frightened the populace with an almighty crash!

"Father!" He cried out, "Horus is fallen!"
"What!?" I tiraded, all shoutin'and callin'
When, to my maddening eyed should appear,
But the traitorous fleet and Seven Primarchs I fear.

In a moment, my marines, set about with chainsword and gun.
I knew in a moment; "Battery and cannon."
More rapid then eagles his thralls they came,
And he bombarded, and deployed, all was fire and flame!

"Now Sanguinius! Now, Jaghatai! Now, Rogal Dorn!"
"On Fulgrim! On Curze! On Mortarion, Angron!"
"To the top of that spire!" To the base of that wall!"
"Now march on! March On! MARCH UPON ALL!"

As guns bombarded and before them wild astartes loot,
And macrocannon, and lance battery shoot,
And so on up to my palace-top my marines, they fought,
With the warp full of daemons, and advantages were sought.

>>50866481
And then, for reasons unknown, as I heard from an aide;
"Sire! THe Vengeful Spirit's shields are a-fade!"
As I drew in my power, and conferred with my Sons
Up toward the teleport we charged, our hearts weighed a ton

He was clad all in scale, from his head to his foot,
And his skin was all tarnished with ashes and soot.
A wolf pelt he had flung on his back,
And he looked like a God, at the behest of powers black.

His eyes - how they burned! His mind - what a will!
His face was like madness, his maul - an anvil!
His cruel little mouth was drawn up as a sneer,
And the beard of his chin was black without peer.

The stump of The Angel's head he held tight in his claw,
And his body slumped, I - a moment too late, delayed by the War.
Tears sprang to my eyes and I fell to the floor,
That shook when he laughed, my psyche now torn.

We duelled and fought, me and his-damned-self,
And I held back when I fought him, in spite of myself!
A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
Soon told me that I had everything to dread.

He spoke many a word, to turn me to the Gods,
He ripped off my arm, then against all the odds.
A lone guardsman entered the bridge
And defied Him and died, as you would slay a midge

I sprang to my feet and to my powers I called upon
And away his soul died, and to you I leave a new dawn
And with a last breath I exclaim to the Imperium, bright
"Happy Athiestmas to all, and to all a good night!"

>>50865898
>GKs end up being EXACTLY AS PLANNED

That would be an amazing shitstorm.

I have read ABD HH novel about Angron (Betrayer?) but it's been a while. Was it ever explicitly stated why Big E beamed up Angron when he did? Couldnt he have just helped him out?

>>50866492
>>50866481
Thanks, was fun to read.

>>50866481
>>50866492
Good work Anon, that was worth a laugh.

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Does anybody have new Garro book? I'm looking for internal illustration fom this book.

>>50866587
Because the Emperor is a big meanie dumb-dumb who doesn't care about Angr- Sorry, I mean 'The Twelfth's' friends because he's too busy beating my mu- Sorry, I mean the Chaos Gods.

>>50866746
BL is having issues and the book isn't ready for download yet.

3 best & 3 worst things about BL HH series, go!

My girlfriend really likes the Sons of Horus, but we're struggling to retain the feel of the legion in an initial 1k list to start off. Just a centurion, some troops, and a few supporting elements, mostly focusing on infantry and a few lighter vehicles, before adding beatsticks.

Anybody have sample lists they like to use? 2k+ are fine, just need to get a feel for the general composition, aside from spamming Justaerin.

Chaos is great tbqh

>>50867134
Reavers and seekers in Dreadclaws are very fluffy as well as utilising sicarians and outflanking Vet squads in rhinos.

>>50865833
Nah they've got swallow to rewrite and flesh out the shorts
What I hate is that it doesn't include the vow of faith novella
So the blurb says he is going to die but the audios etc didn't actually hint at that
Just Goulding pissing on Abnett and McNeil again

>>50865898
The tutlearies aren't tzeentch daemons
They are future echoes of Magnus shards
That's why whenever he meets the shard his tutelary disappears and when he merges with it he takes its name

>>50867347
True or not that's hilarious. But yeah no, they daemons.

>>50867134
-Maloghurst – Orbital Assault - 140pts

-Veteran Tactical Squad – 10 Men, 2x Plasma Gun, Sergeant (Artificer Armour/Power Weapon), Drop Pod, Nuncio-Vox – 255pts

-Veteran Tactical Squad – 10 Men, 2x Plasma Gun, Sergeant (Artificer Armour/Power Weapon), Drop Pod, Nuncio-Vox – 255pts

-Reaver Attack Squad – 2x Combi-Melta, Chieftan (Power Fist/Artificer Armour/Meltabombs), Drop Pod – 215pts

-Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron – 2x Speeders (Multi-Meltas) – 130pts

Total - 995pts

Maybe something like that?

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Anyone post this yet?

>>50867463
nope, haven't seen that yet, and is that a khornate symbol on the axe blade?

>>50867463
Someone posted in their Facebook it's the AoS khornate Minotaur

>>50867463
It's an AoS Daemon Prince that the retards at Fag World forgot they'd shown at an Open Day already. :^)

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329134-forge-world-puzzle/

>>50867517
P R O F E S S I N A L

>>50867463
>>50867517
I someone going to tell them? Should I tell them? somebody should tell them....

>>50864189
You can indeed only take units of a single rapier, because anything larger doesn't fit inside a drop pod.

>>50864500
Usually it are persons like veterans and high ranking officers that have fancy customised suits of armour.

>>50865932
A new upgrade kit recommended and made by FW seems more likely.

>>50866481
>>50866492
Anon that was beautiful :'(

>>50867283
I've considered a Sicaran, but there's been talk of plastic heresy vehicles, so I've been holding off for now. I do like the Reavers though, she's a bigger fan of their Contemptor.

>>50867428
Pretty good. Does Maloghurst just loaf around on his own? Javelins are a nice idea.

>>50868212
The idea was Mal rides with the Reavers, though admittedly that's mainly because he has to go somewhere and I wand to fit a flavourful unit in rather than a Tac Support Squad or something. I'm not a Sons player myself but all discussion I've seen on them appears to suggest Orbital Assault with Vets, and it's a nice stepping stone to eventually adding in Horus himself (who also makes Vets Troops).

>>50863750
NOT SO FAST GOLDBERG!

>in the beast arises he has two eyes, Ianius only has one
>Mortarion mentions knowing Janus, and that the entire GKs were founded on a lie, which doesn't make sense here
>still doesn't explain the grey armour big O had in serpent beneath

>>50868397
>ALfags can't accept their headcanon ain't real.

Just face it. Alpharius is dead and omegon didn't lead the grey knights.

BL has damaged the heresy with so many tweests and toorns it's getting ridiculous. All this memery just makes it worse.

>>50868397
>>Mortarion mentions knowing Janus, and that the entire GKs were founded on a lie
Well that account was a lie :^)
Also, Mortarion KNEW SilOmegArius? Nobody knew him, not even Horus. Hell, Horus himself didn't know half the time who he was talking to, because not even he knew Omegon existed. Whenever he spoke to him he thought he was talking to Alpharius.

>>50868461
Which is just shitty storytelling.

If you've set all these twists and foreshadowing that the AL will have a civil war and Omegon will become Janus, only to piss on it completely derailing half a decade's worth of world building by various authors is shit

>>50868476
Lorgar and Emps definitely knew, Horus might have pre Molech judging by dialogue and definitely post, and some of the daemon primarchs may have known

>>50868461
>Alpharius is dead
>The primarch of the legion that has primarch growing tech and could make more
>again, for the second time, after girlyman killed one

>>50868492
Ok those privy to warp secrets may indeed have known, but if there was someone who knew jackshit of the warp that was Mortarion, and being briefed about someone after your ascention to DP doesnt mean you "knew" him.
I also wish to believe Lorgar was puzzled beyond words when the gods asked him to give Alpharius two copies of his book, "Just because".

Also, link to last bread. Eating last night's dinner as breakfast woooo
>>50846872

>>50868541
> if there was someone who knew jackshit of the warp that was Mortarion, and being briefed about someone after your ascention to DP doesnt mean you "knew" him.

It would still mean you retroactively knew him, just not neccesarily close enough.

Also GK being founded by the secret 21st primarch with secret special marine making tech is definitely more deceptiony than being founded by a shard of Magnus fused with a loyalist 1kS

>>50868534
They have emps kid-making goo, not the actual knowledge or facilities to actually make primarchs.

>>50868607
In deliverance lost Corax says they can easily make Primarchs

>>50868397
>reading comprehension
In the Beast Arises, Janus has 2 eyes, one of which is marked by an old injury.
In Last Son of Prospero, Ianius manifests with 2 eyes, one of which appears injured.

>>50868705
It doesn't simply appear injured, it's covered in scar tissue

>>50868607

Well, in the book corax says that they could make new Primarchs given a decade or two but they decide against even trying for moral reasons

Alpha fags have had 10,000 years with it. Go figure

Please god tell me some of you people are either underage or master rusemen, there cannot simply be people this stupid.

>>50867463
Dark Mechanicum stuff?

Can someone share Last son of Prospero?

>>50868817
Welcome to 4chan.

>>50868603
Boooo to both options :C

>>50868817
>Please Emps tell me some of BL's writers are either underage or master rusemen, there cannot simply be people this cringy.
Headcanon best canon.

Any ready the Grey Raven? Hear it was terrible. What happened to the RG libby? Dead? Knight Errant? Nothing and just a waste of data storage?

>>50869162
[REDACTED]

>>50869177
I FUCKING KNEW IT. THEY COULDN'T LEAVE IT ALONE. THOSE BASTARDS.

>>50869162
Knight errant (could guess from the title) but the test Malc sets for him is just retarded grimderp

>>50869219
Spoiler us on Malcador tank's grimderp test to be a grey knight, anon.

>>50869260
Malc instructs the custodians to begin hunting him down. Noriz, the IF captain that was sent to Corax, decides to help him and gets killed for his troubles. Surrounded by custodians and his friend dead at his feet, he wants to lash out with his psychic powers and kill them all but decides not to, instead accepting his death. A sally librarian then appears, congratulates him and gives him a suit of grey armor

>>50869303
W O W

>>50869303
That's fucked up rip Nortiz, he was a good lad

>>50869303
What the fuck, Malcador!
Noriz was a good guy!

>>50869303
Calling it now, Malcador dies because Dorn deliberately doesn't follow the correct procedures for taking him off the throne.

>>50869303
Loyalists confirmed bigger teamkillers than the traitors. As if BL wasn't biased towards Chaos being best already

Why does BL turn everybody into autists somehow. Primarchs, marines, custodes, SoS ... nobody is safe.

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>>50869649
The world may never know, besides it being the easy way out.

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Say lads, I'm trying to into a basic pre-heresy Blood Angels force. How should I be kitting out my dudes and building the list? And by that I mean: should my tacticals just be basic or should they have CCW weapons, should I have jump pack troops or deapoilers, what armor type makes the most sense, etc. Any tips appreciated.

>>50869865

Despoilers will do well but remember the Prospero Mk3s all come with chainswords that can be put on their belts, so you can do bolter+CCW just fine easily.

Assault marines are fantastic and if you're in the US, Mk2/4/5 Assault marines are nearly the same price as regular plastic assault marines MSRP.

>>50869865
Dreadnoughts with Assault Cannons hands and nipples.

>>50869649
A better question is why people keep reading and caring about the drivel they produce.

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Garro, courtesy of CL.
http://www118.zippyshare.com/v/6CbgKqt0/file.html

http://www118.zippyshare.com/v/d82PzMBd/file.html

Happy Cimbo.

>>50870160
Screw that, what I want to see is a heavy support squad with 10 assault cannons.

Now that is some proper dakka

>>50870203
Because people care more about this hobby than what's probably healthy :^) I am guilty of this as well.

Possibly stupid rules question: does Maru Skara's +1" movement work when disembarking for a total of 7", or is it a hard limit of up to 6"?

>>50870290
Models must end their move within 6'' of the hatch when disembarking.

>>50870231
Danke anon

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>>50870253
but how will you get the full experience of the hobby if you do not fully immerse yourself in all its aspects and maximize your exposure

>>50870231
What are those things?

>>50870160
This intrigues me, do go on.

>>50870420
Chaos tainted snow.

>>50870231

Bless you for this one anon.

>>50870474
>Chaos tainted snowmen
That actually gets a kek out of me.

>>50870531
>Do you want to purge some snowmen

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>>50870531

I've seen those before.

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>>50870578
>>50870595
I want my sides back. Never thought that I would see Chaos made Snowmen, but maybe BL is good for something.

>>50870578
>it doesn't have to be some snowmen

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>>50870612

Calvin and Hobbes is a treasure for Chaos Snowmen.

>>50870471
Blood Angels can replace their Heavy Flamers with Assault Cannons. Dreads can get HFs in/under their fists and Deredeos can have HFs in their nipple mounts.

You can also do AssCan Attack Bikes.

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>>50870628

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>>50870657

>>50870231
>For the first time, Rubio saw something like surprise on Khorarinn’s face. The riders of the White Scars had always been one of the Emperor’s most devoted and loyal Legions, and His son Jaghatai Khan had never once shown anything but unswerving allegiance, in his own unpredictable fashion
>mfw that retard Laurie let this slip by

Truly ain't worth shit

>>50870707
Well they also let space-bound interceptors with compromised hulls imploding 'due to the extreme high pressure of deep space' slip through. Compared to that this is only a minor fuckup

>>50870707
Srry what am i supposed to be seeing? Im hungry.

>>50870760
That's just ignorance.

For the self proclaimed ultimate HH fan this is ridiculous

>>50870707
He probably insisted on the change.

>>50870783
>most devoted and loyal Legions, and His son Jaghatai Khan had never once shown anything but unswerving allegiance, in his own unpredictable fashion

In newer novels everyone thinks Jaghatai will go traitor, and Emps himself tells Malc to watch the Khan closely

>>50870807
I think the only Primarch Emps trusted was, ironically, the Lion.
And Horus.
I wouldn't take Emps' own word on who to trust, is what I'm saying.

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>>50870807
>tfw you go so fast not even the Emperor can predict your next move.

>>50870850
Well memes aside he was right about the Lion

Hey dudes, after a Typhon. Lost Zs email (been a year or so since I last ordered from him so I assume he's got a new one) so there only Chinaman I can see that's readily available is Miranda Irene. So, questions:

1. Looks expensive, her casts good?
2. Is that website you find when you search for her legit?
3. She take PayPal?

Help would be greatly appreciated lads

The Thirteenth Wolf, Children of Sicarus link anyone?

>>50871197
No thanks, but merry Christmas to you too anon!.

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>>50870862
>tfw too fast to be fully loyal

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>>50871197
They do not exist, but Merry Christmas to you.

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>>50867134
>>50867428
First off
>my girlfriend really likes the Sons of Horus
You lucky faggot

But to actually help you/her, like pretty much any other legion, as a whole they don't fair well in general at small point levels. SoH/LW are one of those legions that get hit even harder if your playing fluffy simply because you've got an emphasis on elite units, but no really cheap ways to use them.

But like everyone else is saying, you should go for an orbital assault based army (Not that our rites aren't good, they're just difficult at low point games). Since you said shes likes the Dreads, drop podded cortus/contemptors with chsinfist and grav guns work wonders against vehicles. Or you can go for the combi weapon approach for all your special anti-whatever needs. Death Dealers is a wonderful thing It just sucks that reavers are so expensive and are completely overshadowed by vets in everything but certain close combat scenarios.

>>50870628
Gotta admit that Calvin has both amazing talent and stamina for ice sculptures.

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Hope everyone here at /hhg/ is having a decent Christmas!

>>50871514
It's pretty great, Goose. Quiet, uneventful, and peaceful here.

>>50871352
All things exist Anon.

>>50871514
A good one so far. Not much Heresy in sight for me, still have 1k of yellow to paint for the end of Jan.

>>50871514
My arm's cramping up as I'm starting to finish my first 20 man tactical unit.

so... yay???

>>50871555
>no such links exist for us at the moment
Better?

>>50871514
>no spess mens in my stocking
i-its okay, I'll just use my gift cards to buy some

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>>50870942

shameless question reroll

This time with a fancy pic of an Iron Warriors Tactical Squad for prosperity. C&C would be nice

>>50864772
Space Marine has definitely helped artists, I keep seeing assets from it used in art.

>>50871514
Pretty good, scratch built my Dynat, turned out nicely.

Did you know there's only, I think, three sources of pointing right hands for marines? And until the new Devastators dropped the only two were old metal models.

>>50871514
Looking fabius, my IIIrd Legion friend!

>Stay loyal.

>>50871514
>pre-Istvaan EC
>Mk VI

>>50871600
holy fuck those are cool models

>>50871671
Post-Istvaan loyalists. Still thinking of a good fluffy reason, but there were chapters of marines scattered all over even from the traitor Legions. Might have that they were tied up in a campaign against the Eldar or something and couldn't meet the muster order for Istvaan.

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>>50871514

From the creators of "pretty good AL scheme but paints need thinning" guy comes: the scenic base for my orphans of betrayal Praetor.

How exactly he killed a contemptor with a paragon blade I'm not sure but that's why he's the hero, not me.

>>50871514
All good here, I'm working on a Alpharius kit bash, need to order some bits to finish it completely thought.

Merry Christmas /hhg/!

>>50871600
Fuck those are cool.

>>50871650
Picture of Dynat please, I'm Alpharius

>>50871737
Oh fug, very dramatic.

I bet poor egg-dude dislikes being tread on. Which legion is he from?

>>50871716
Don't sweat it, goose. Tons of EC weren't at Istvaan III, not even Fulgrim was there.
>>50871600
Awesome models man

>>50870231
>Terminator with Chainsword

I feel the trigger overtaking me.

>>50871624
>>50864772

One of the biggest reasons I want to play SoH are Topknots.

I am not even joking, it looks just rad as hell. How would you recommend doing them similar to the one pictured without mutilating white scar helmets?

>>50871699
>>50871746
>>50871771

Thanks a lot dudes. Last time I posted most people just thought my liberal use of hazard stripes looked silly haha. This is the encouragement I needed to start squad #2 haha.

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>>50871749
My phone is shit and so am I, so this is the best you're getting.

It won't help with any details, but at least you can get an idea of the posing. I can go into further detail on bitz if you actually care.

Just put in my first 30k order! A Thallax Cohort with Photon Thruster, a Castellax with Darkfire Cannon and a Thantar Siege-automata.

>>50871781
When you lose your power sword/axe you use whatever else is near at hand.

>>50870850
And Dorn. And Guiliman. Maybe even Sanguinius. Maybe even Ferrus to an extent. Basically those that could be useful to the Imperium after the war. The indomitable few.
Just Dorn, Guiliman and Sanguinius would have been enough to protect, administer and lead the Imperium in times of peace and leave Empy to his galaxy-changing plans in his mancave.

>>50871814
This is the perfect Dynat. He's even blurry so you don't know his true form, so meta.

>>50871197


>>50871568
No, the only better answer is links

http://www70.zippyshare.com/v/DNyWhEZr/file.html
http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/0kkQoAkr/file.html

>>50871838
Basically he trusted the Mount Rushmore of Primarchs.

>>50871838
>And Guiliman.
Like that time where the Lion goes to check on Roboute and the Emperor has no doubts on only one of them, and that one isn't Guilliman?

>>50870231
Which artist did this? If every piece of 30k and 40k art could be that good it'd be great.

>>50871863
Someone give me a Teddy Roosevelt Primarch.

>>50871814
Looking good, of what I can see.

>>50871863
You are the best Sir. Merry Christmas.

>>50871887
according to Reddit (from r/ImaginaryBattlefields)
this was done by Igor Sid

>>50871760

I'm not too sure, he's my go to loyalist AL HQ so I'm assuming someone traitor, maybe even AL

ON THE FIRST YEAR OF M31 THE EMPRAH GAVE TO ME.
A .75 IN A BOLTGUN.

>>50871600
What parts did you use and how did you get that metal my man?

I'm going to try using Nuln Oil gloss instead of standard nun oil when I get home from my travels.

>>50871829
Not not just purchase the Cybernetica Battlegroup?

>>50871942
And his personal website: https://www.artstation.com/artist/sidwill

>>50871952
ON THE SECOND YEAR OF M31 THE EMPEROR GAVE TO ME
TWO ORANTE PAULDRONS

>>50871965
Because I didn't want to put in that much money for my first purchase, because I'm primarily in it for the hobby, not the game. Mechanicum models look badass.

>>50871978
ON THE THIRD YEAR OF M.31 MY EMPRAH GAVE TO ME
THREE DREADS ON A TALON.

>>50871997
ON THE FOURTH YEAR OF M31 MY EMPRAH GAVE TO ME
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

>>50871838
Stop shitting on Ferrus he is on the same loyalty level ay Dorn!

>>50871948
SoH then?

>>50871969
Thanks!

>>50871958

Nothing too drastic, I'll run you through it.

>Heavy drybrush leadbelcher
>heavy nuln oil (just usual stuff)
>Light dry brush leadbelcher
>Very light drybrush of a light silver

Donezo.

The 3rd party bits are all from Anvil Industries. I was going for a heavy-loaded foot slogging vanguard. These are the dudes first through the breach. Loads of augmetics to fix'em up so they can throw them to the meat grinder again. And again. Until they're either mostly machine-powered Astartes (my havocs) or they don't get up again at all.

Iron Within, Iron Without.

How do you equip your Thallax and Thralls, fellow tech-brothers? Starting to slowly convert my lobotomised hordes.

For Thallax, Destructor and a Photon Thruster seems nice to jet around and poke away at armour while scoring forward objectives, but it is a bit expensive.

For Thralls, AFAIK Carapace and Fearless is nice, plus Revenants if I have the points spare. Seems like I want to keep them fairly cheap, but having stickier tarpits is always handy in my experience.

This is all theorycrafting, got nowhere near enough stuff to play with yet.

>>50872013
ON THE FIFTH YEAR OF M31 MY EMPRAH GAVE TO ME
FIVE GOOOOOOOLDEEEEN CUSTARDS
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

>>50872116
ON THE SIXTH DAY OF CHRISTMAS MY EMPEROR GAVE TO ME
SIX THALLAXII IN A COHORT
FIVE GOLDEN CUSTARDS
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

>>50872030
Dorn and Ferrus were both single minded dudes.
But while Dorn could take orders, Ferrus knew that at some point shit would hit TR fan in times of peace. However, since he was a genius in technology, he could have still be of use in the Imperium. His legion would have been bothe some at some point though, especially with their hatred of weakness and detachmental from humanity.

I'd say the probleme wasn't in Primarchs by themselves, but rather the mower they commanded. While the three I've given were loyal without defect, the most important point I that they have their use in something other than war. The other loyalist didn't. In the end, even if they ever did allow theie legion to be killed or die out, they would have ended as supremely powerful and charismatic leaders, with jackshit to do when their sole purpose was to be generals. At some point they would have turned against the Emperor because Tyrant, because I can do your job better, because I want muh independance, what have you, while those that have stuff to do would be kept and invaluable.

>>50872116
Can other religions join in?

ON THE SIXTH YEAR OF M31 MY MAGOS GAVE TO ME
SEVEN VORAX CHARGING
SIX THALLAXII IN A COHORT
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

>>50872149
>>50872168

Oops same idea. Also, mine should be seventh year. I've ruined it now, haven't I...

>>50872177
No, I did by writing both Day and Christmas.

>>50872168
>MAGOS
>Not OMNISSIAH
Done fucked up anon.

>>50872197
Too many syllables, honestly. I though about it.

>>50872196
I think the Mechanicum aren't cut out for singing in Low Gothic. I will stick to binary in the future.

ON THE EIGHTH YEAR OF M31 MY EMPRAH GAVE TO ME
EIGHT KNIGHTS A' ERRANTING
SEVEN VORAX A' CHARGING
SIX THALLAX IN A COHORT
FIVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOLDEN CUSTARDS
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

>>50863130
Hey anons, I just got Betrayal at Calth and am going to start a Word Bearers army!

I have a question though, is it supposed to only have a single transfer sheet or no?

>>50872288
ON THE NINTH YEAR OF M31 MY MAGOS GAVE TO ME

NINE ANGELS STABBING
EIGHT KNIGHTS A' ERRANTING
SEVEN VORAX A' CHARGING
SIX THALLAX IN A COHORT
FIVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOLDEN CUSTARDS
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

>>50872167
Ok...usefull dudes outside of war:
Girlyman as administrator,Ferrus as resident non mechanicum tech guy, vulkan for a similar reason..maybe, sanguinius and fulgrim potentially filling the same niche of artsy diplomancers...with Fulgrims boys honestly being potentially more usefull as they strived for perfection in all things.
Magnus and his boys as potential psycher corps and maybe throne food.

I am unsure about Lorgar, since he could be very usefull as a very good apostle of imperial truth.
Mortarion,Kurze and angron are the most damaged and thus cant really offer much beyond war The alphalfas also seem to belong here, since only half of them were pro imperial spymasters but mostly seemed to just fuck up stuff for the hell of it.

Horus,Khan,Dorn,Woofman,the Lion..what use do they have beyond waror guard duty?

Horus DID prepare his guys for civil life in the earliest books...but would that be enough?

>>50872345
ON THE TENTH YEAR OF M31 Alpharius GAVE TO ME
Ten Loyalist Primarchs
NINE ANGELS STABBING
EIGHT KNIGHTS A' ERRANTING
SEVEN VORAX A' CHARGING
SIX THALLAX IN A COHORT
FIVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOLDEN CUSTARDS
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

>>50872366
The Lion would make an excellent lumberjack.

ON THE ELEVENTH YEAR OF M31 THE MACHINE GOD GAVE TO ME
ELEVEN THRALLS A' DYING
TEN LOYALIST PRIMARCHS
NINE ANGELS STABBING
EIGHT KNIGHTS A' ERRANTING
SEVEN VORAX A' CHARGING
SIX THALLAX IN A COHORT
FIVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOLDEN CUSTARDS
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

>>50872366
>Horus
Guard Duty
>Khan
Probably recon in the furthest reaches of the Imperium, maybe even the next galaxy
>Dorn
Dyson sphere around the eye of Terra
>Woofman
In charge of distributing presents on Atheistmas
>Lion
>>50872380

>>50872374
This is the best one yet

>>50872418
>Terra
*Terror

>>50872366
If Malcador was still alive then he would've joined up with the Alpha legion and aid the Imperium from the shadows, an entire legion doing the work of the Inquisition.

Dorn is the praetorian of Terra, his legion would be in charge of defending the throne world just like it is now.

The galaxy is huge, there will always be place for conquerors and so Horus and the Khan would push their legions to the limits of the galaxy seeking new worlds to conquer. They would be first to die once they reach the Tyranid fleets.

>>50872366
Lorgar would have been extremely useful as a propagandist and all-around nice guy.

Unfortunately Sanguinias existed, and as the most beautiful and kind primarch, but only the third most handsome creature in existance, Lorgar was outclassed by his own brother, sadly.

>>50872366
Perturabo wanted to be useful outside of war as antes Imperial architect, and was a peerless engineer and logistician.
Just saying, he'd be useful.

>>50872366
Vulkan and Fulgrim don't strike me as very useful. They didn't advance their homeworld that much, basically defending it.

Magnus was probably the one Empy could relate the most in his grand plans, especially since he meant the Golden throne to be used by either him or the big Jalapeño.

And Dorn is the only warrior that had a potential use as he was loyal to a fault, and defense centered. When you're done conquering the whole galaxy, you need someone to fortify it.

>>50872418
Coordinating imperia, defence forces might have been ok for Horus, but would that be enough?

But I guess we agree that Alphas,Angron,Kurze and Morty were to dangerous.

>>50872409
ON THE TWELTH YEAR OF M31 THE WARMASTER GAVE TO ME
TWELVE YEARS OF HERESY
ELEVEN THRALLS A' DYING
TEN LOYALIST PRIMARCHS
NINE ANGELS STABBING
EIGHT KNIGHTS A' ERRANTING
SEVEN VORAX A' CHARGING
SIX THALLAX IN A COHORT
FIVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOLDEN CUSTARDS
FOUR REDUNDANT ORGANS
THREE DREADS IN A TALON
TWO ORNATE PAULDRONS
AND A .75 ROUND IN A BOLTGUN

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>>50871863
Well what do you know? They exist now. Take this.

>>50872454
>>50872455

Iron Hands and Iron Warriors share to much, in name and niche.

>Ferrus was probably better with tech, Perty better with buildings.

>>50871952
>>50871978
>>50871997
>>50872013
>>50872116
>>50872149
>>50872168
>>50872288
>>50872345
>>50872374
>>50872409
>>50872467


Can someone screencap this lot? A finer psalm to the Omnissiah's avatar few have heard.

600 murica bucks for xmas
what do i get?

>>50872472
I always thought the girl had extra stuff on top of augmented legs, the exoskeleton doing most of the carrying.

>>50872455
Fulgrim's homeworld was a shithole before he made it glorious.

>>50872459
>Alphas
Yeah probably.
>Angron
Would have burned out anyway, with the twelth shortly after.
>Kurze
See if mindfucking the night haunter out of him works and if it does, put him in charge of the police.
>Morty
Gotta go, threatening bestbro malcador and hating psychers is a nogo.

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What have I done

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I will never brush basecoat another vehicle as long as I live. What is everyone working on?

>>50872528
tau supremacy suit

>>50872443
>third most handsome creature in existance
Well, obviously Emps is first, but I fail to see who second is supposed to be.
>Captcha: Select all images that Feel Romantic
What.

>>50872546
If i wanted a
>40k
Answer I would have gone there.
Guess I'm getting Bac

>>50872566
Lorgar is second, anon! After all, he is canonically a mirror image of the Emperor.

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>>50872531
I thought she just had arm augmentations and robo feet. Strange how Sundowner had more bones out of the three.

Rolled 2 (1d3)

>>50872572
Warhound body.
However many Primarchs that buys.
All the dickbikes.

>>50872533
>Gotta go, threatening bestbro malcador and hating psychers is a nogo.
Fucking wizards.
Ungrateful you are, for the Inquisition proyects your sleep.
Yeah, they may make your life a living nightmare, but your sleep is safe :^)

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>>50872597
And have this.

>>50872597
Him? Nah, I thought he'd be like Samuel.

>>50872455
Fulgrim pranced around, there's plenty of humans to fill that role.

Vulkan made super crazy shit. I know, I'll make a teleporting hammer as a present. He made some crazy new terminator suits that made Ferrus' intelegance look base-line human.

>>50872533
But wasnt kurze also genetically unstable?

>>50872540
Commited tech-heresy.. Or created an un-sanctioned machine. Commiting tech-heresy.[/spoiler.]

>>50872640
Yep.
Nostramo sure didn't help, but his visions and everything they brought were always a problem that was gene forged.

Are any of the FW bundles a good deal?

>>50872681
the cadres are pretty decent if its stuff you need

>>50872619
I thought Sam would be a cyborg given his look.

>>50872341
Anyone?

>>50872706
Yes. It was meant for you to divide between UM and WB. You can't put transfers equally on every marine.

>>50872532
When Fulgrim arrived Chemos was barely managing to only die a slow inevitable death. They almost killed him because he was too many extra mouths to feed.

By the time the Emperor arrived Fulgrim had not only stabilized the planet, but reintroduced the concept of surplus.

>>50872540
Contemptor Cortus?

>>50872722
Aw, that's a shame. How'm I supposed to give everyone their legion markings and such?

>>50872640
Yes, visions of the future is a double edged sword.

>>50872739
Deep down you know, goym.

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>>50872729

Yep

>>50872659

COMEHERE YOU LITTLE SHIT

>>50872681
At least the Mechanicum ones, and I assume most of them, give a ~15% discount over buying the parts of the bundles seperately. The Cybernetica Battlegroup is £280, and the individual models would be £321

Yes I've actually made a spreadsheet for this.

>>50872772
damnedunstablecortusdread.jpg

>>50872772
Kek.

>>50872540
Needs googly eyes and drool hanging from the side of the view slit. And a contemptor behind it holding a double-barreled lascannon, aiming at the dread's back while taking a deep breath and being strong for the Emperor.

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>>50872772
emperor preserve us

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>>50872504

>>50872625
I dunno..who was the best tech man now?

Vulgan or Ferruz?

>>50872950
The Emperor can order Knights to fix themselves.

>>50872950
Perturabo

>>50872980
The sad thing for Pertuarbo is, for a man who wanted to be the 31st millenium's Da Vinci, Vulkan was much more like that.

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>>50872828
>>50872877
>>50872905

IM GONNA FUCK YOUR ASS

>Stay strong Minos, stay strong for Alpharius

>[Str 8 sunder vs 10 rear armors internally]

>>50872980
Hey, not only am I super siege man...I also infringe on others territory!

>>50872966
Space Alexander strikes again.

>>50872999

No wonder Pert made a Maze to keep Vulkan in.

>>50872999
What was Ferrus good at, knowledgeable person?

>>50872999
Nope, Vulkan crafted masterpiece arms and armour, but Perty had grander visions beyond just tools of war. Perty made the arena were the trials of Magnus took place.

Perturabo was an architect, where Vulkan was a craftsman smith.

>>50872950
Perturabo.
Reminder that Fulgrim was a better smith than Ferrus :^)

>>50873049
He had cool sliver hands.

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>>50871737
>>50871514 here, what did you do to help fit the helmet into the armor cowl? If I ever get a nicer looking helmet, I might peel apart mine to improve on it, or do it with my next one (since I'm probably going to get another BaC set to flesh out my forces once I finish with these guys).

>>50872999
Trips say Da Truth
>>50873055
>Perty made the arena were the trials of Magnus took place.
Dubs of wtf for real? But Malcador showed Nikea's incomplete arena to Mortarion.
I should believe anons and their consecutive numbers over BL blshit

>>50872545
Wishing that I had an airbrush for my EC

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>>50873063
>>50873073
Reeeeeee.

At least FW leaves IH sons crumbs, I blame it on him not getting enough BL books.

>>50872999
Whoops, I misread. I thought you said Perturabo was Da Vinci in space, which he was. He did medicine, war invention, engineering, etc.
Vulkan was smith resilience and fuck elves, not that those arent lower standards or anything. Fuck elves.

>>50873099
Oh fuck, I ment that Perturabo designed it.

>But Malcador showed Nikea's incomplete arena to Mortarion
Where did you read about that? I don't recall that.

>>50873085

Snip down the "spinal" pillar that has the head attached to it and carve space around the neck joint to fit the whole helmet.

I had to cut the neck nub off the helmet to make it fit and it was still tight. Very worth it though.

I wouldn't recommend doing it on an already assembled termie though

Just ordered a leviathan. Requesting that pic. You know the one.

>>50873055
Yes, but Vulkan made his wonderful, unique, transformative inventions.
Pertuarbo got as far as clockwork soldiers on his desk; one of his plans for an amphitheatre was taken and turned into the Nikean trial venue by the mechanicum, and the other only happened becaue Fulgrim wanted to butter him up and fancied a place to grandstand.

note I do not post this as a slight to beep boop fans. being tragically denied what they would prefer is one of the themes of Iron Warriors.

>>50873109
It's ok.
You know, maybe Fulgrim did build a better pointy stick, Vulkan did build the better hammers and Dreadnought and Perturabo was indeed a better engineer, but you know what?
Ferrus was an adventurer that went around killing motherfucking zombie metal drakes bare handed, no metal hands or anything, and his whole legion decided mortal weapons would wound them only on a 6.
Ferrus is Fallout, and like a good Vault dweller he researched power armour tech until he invented Cataphractii and Indomitus plate, as well as gifting weapons to his brothers, like Fulgrim, Vulkan and Lorgar.
>>50873139
Daemonology

>>50873168
>but Vulkan made his wonderful, unique, transformative inventions
Like what?

>>50873207
I guess,thank you.

>>50873207
>>50873258
Ps:Seems he was amazing at armours and boomsticks then!

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Sup, /hhg/
I'm the Luna Wolf fag from a couple threads ago who was gonna 3D model the helmets and I just wanted to let you guys know that these helmets are gonna be designed to fit the Mk IV bodies, specifically the BaC ones. Although I'm pretty sure it'll fit on most armor mks

This project is still gonna take a while, but i'll get it done.

Kill for the Living, Kill for the Dead. I hope you all had a great Christmas

>>50873311

Merry Christmas and good luck.

>>50873311
Thank you a lot, man!

What will they be inspired by, could you tell us about that?

>>50872459
>alphas

Head of Imperial CIA

>angron
Gas gas gas

>kurze

Terror tactics would still be needed to put down rebellions

>mortarion

Gas ga- oh wait shit

>>50873258
>>50873303
A War techie he was, anon! Ferrum Honore Maniat :^)

>>50873360
>>angron
>Gas gas gas
Naaah anon. That's the White Scars :^)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8

>>50872950
Ferrus was the better weapons designer, while Vulkan was the better artisan.

>>50872999
Space blackface only smithed. Perty had accomplishments everywhere

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>Ordinatus and other stuff finally reached the states and is on its way to my family home
>Processed arrival at December 24
>Post offices closed next two days, no further processing
>Need to head back the 26th, will miss the package

>>50873144
I glued him pretty lightly, if I do decide to peel him apart I'll be gentle. Though I might just wait for another kit.

>>50873419
>Planning to recieve a package down to a resolution of a few days, instead of weeks
>IN CHRISTMAS EVE
You brought this on yourself, Shas'nigga

>>50873419

Get out of here /vp/

>>50873405
>>50873375
I still try to get more onto the fluff shipof the Iron Hands.

Seems way easier to identify with the IW or Sallies sometimes.

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>>50873508

I thought I could play the system

but the system played me

Oh well, gives me more time to plan out its sound system

>>50873509

Nothing wrong with /vp/. They're interesting people.

Also that's Shas. If you don't recognize him, get out.

>>50873405
Yes. But let's leave aside measuring contests like oh, Vulkan's ground-to-orbit flamethrowers or other silly shit, Pertuarbo never got to see his inventions bear fruit, unlike the other brothers interested in creation.
This is a fundamental point of his character; the frustrated technologist and blue-sky thinker kept in his cubicle job doing the drudgework. He wanted to be something his other brothers found time to do. Would he have been better? Yes, certainly. Did he do it? No.
Let the bitterness flow through you.

>>50873523
>Seems way easier to identify with the IW or Sallies sometimes.
It depends on what you identify with. As long as you hate weakness and are even willing to replace some (a lot of) your flesh to do so, the Iron Hands will welcome you.
Ferrus Manore Veniat.
>>50873532
Kek

>>50873548
Only he did see them bear fruit. Leaving aside all his military tech they used, he helped many Olympians through breakthroughs in medicine, agriculture and other such stuff

>>50873548

This is the same Peturabo who took one look at his Legion and said 'You all fail. Decimation for you.'

He acted like a huge tosser much of the time, and then wondered why no-one seemed to like him.

>>50873548
>Pertuarbo never got to see his inventions bear fruit, unlike the other brothers interested in creation.
I agree with your point, I do, but the stuff he did to make his legion and his system great again did bear fruit.
What do you think the Iron Ring is? Olympia's shipyards, a newfound world, rival some of the Sol system's. And no defeat was a real setback to the IW.

>>50873591
>FW IW fluff

Purge

>>50873602

Why is it that everyone except for Iron Warriors prefers the FW Fluff over the BL Fluff? Are IWfags that salty?

>>50873602
FW fluff is best fluff. The only exception is IW's because Jonh French slipped his filth John Frenchy hand un it.
Decimate him.
Didn't I made a John French Donghunter pic?

>>50873622
Whats wrong with Graham Mcneil's fluff? I think its great, Angel Exterminatus and Storm of Iron are awesome.

>>50873622
Or maybe because John French is an IF fanboy who turned Perty into a screaming retard and explicitly says that a random Imperial Fist captain is his superior in tactics?

>>50873325
>>50873333
Thank you both,

As a baseline inspiration for these helmets, I'm going off of what I can see from False Gods and the Eye of Terra covers arts. It's not much, but they have side, back and almost full frontal shots scattered around on the covers so it's easy enough to fill in the minor gaps. The one thing that I like most about what i'm trying to do with them is how they have this weird Roman vibe to them. It's sort of hard to explain, but if you look at a Roman helmet (pic provided) you'll see that it looks like an up-armored/somewhat stream lined version. In the next thread, i can post some hand drawn concepts in the next thread, I'm no pencil artist, but you'll see what i mean

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>>50873657
Fuck, forgot to provide said picture

>>50873532
Sound system? You're going to rig your Ordinatus to play music?
That is awesome. Make sure to post pics when it's ready, I want to see that.

I was considering making some literally explosive destruction markers, the usual cotton wool smoke with an LED or two that makes an explosion noise and then plays quiet crackling flames, but that's a bit complicated and I need to sort out my 40k Admech stuff first.

>>50873637

Angel Exterminatus was an absolute crime against Perturabo. Credit goes to McNeil for his grand attempt to humanize the minds of the most mentally inhuman primarchs, but Occam's Razor applies here, as it always does in the mindset of the Iron Lord. Simplicity is the key, expedience the goal. His is a mind entirely composed of mathematical equations, looking at the world around him in angles and percentages, statistics and numbers. Emotion is unwelcome, an unfactorable variable, but it's always there, the ghost that haunts his finely tuned thoughts. He buried his dreams and his heart on Olympia's ridges, and willingly cut all ties and dived into Hell, because his Father asked him to. He murdered millions, because his father asked him to. He broke empires, shattered armies, and his Legion bore the most grievous wounds and losses, because his father asked him to. And he ignored the implications of it all, because his Father asked him to.

>>50873580
Are you sure you weren't supposed to go to the XIII Legion, terran?
>>50873598
Absolutely, you're right. Let me rephrase, perhaps? It's undeniable that being a frustrated thinker and inventor denied his rightful recognition and opportunities is a huge part of Pert's character. But he needs *some* evidence of that in the fluff, otherwise he would just be a deluded boaster, and there has to be some solid ground for his characterisation's hopes to be built on, otherwise he's just a fantasist and it all never happening is not tragic.

So we are given his ascension of Olympia. But is a primarch putting his house in order that impressive? It seems to be expected. And he didn't deliver a star empire or whatever. It didn't satisfy Pert.
And then he went back and broke it. Similar to the decimation. Not good enough. Not what I wanted. Not how it should be. I
The more I think about it, Pertuarbo and Fulgrim really should have become friends, had not fate and maximum bitterness got in the way.

I'm just thinking out loud based on your and other anon's points, not claiming I'm right btw.

>>50873697

Do you honestly believe none of this ground into his long lost humanity, the empty core of his being that he cut out, because his Father asked him to?

He is War-Broken. We're talking about God-Level traumatic mental disorder here. Perturabo can't control his emotions at times. He stares out at nothingness, and speaks to his past. One moment, he's unreachable, and the next he's ripping your head off because you brought him bad news. He can become utterly lost in fine details, both in crafting weaponry, and tearing down citadels. It calms him, returns his mind back to the emotionless numbers that represent hundreds of thousands of his sons dying. The further detached he became from reality, the further he tried to hide from the horror he was crafting, the worse his emotions got.

And Perturabo still buried that shit. He moved forward. He got the damn job done, and the next, and the next, with precise equations and algorithms.

Olympia was the line crossed. His mind broke, his heart broke, and he became the Monster he ran from his whole life.

Because his Father asked him to.

>>50873697
>Angel Exterminatus was an absolute crime against Perturabo
>proceeds to rant about the traits McNeill gave him

French's Perturabo is literally just REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50873545
>trying to imply someone doesn't recognize a common tripfag when he himself doesn't realize the post is referring to the fug meme

>>50873637
The grander themes are ok, McNeil developed a habit of fixating on details and then explaining them to show how clever he is / make you feel clever for understanding them, to the overall detriment of the quality of the work. I explained the connections between AE and Storm of Iron to my gf just earlier today, and when I concluded with the Hon...*wipes smudges*...Sou part she just sighed and said that it was terrible.
Plus his writing seems to communicate he has an ego, which I find off-putting. Horse for courses and all that, obv.

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>>50873677

Yeah, it turns out the Ulator Projector is a solid rod followed by a series of segmented disks. If I don't put on the pointed emitter at the end, I can create a mounting to attach a 2" speaker to the end. So all I need to do is find a 2" speaker that is MP3 compatible, and I SHOULD be able to blast bad music at people when I drop pieplates.

The hard part is going to be the exposed wires. The Sonic gun is way too long to run wires directly through, so I need to find a way to hide the wires through the construction.

>>50873697
Didn't French have him cripple one of his most trusted generals because Sigismund wasn't present in the enemy IF fleet and as such Perty wasn't able to defeat him in personal combat?

>>50873657
>>50873669
Thanks I like the book covers you talked about.

I am allways wierded out by the non left to right crests on roman helmets though.

There is a guy selling LW fitting pads under the name popgoesthemonkey on shapeways.

Do you also plan to sell?

>I would like that.

>>50873714
You know, just as I was thinking that the Iron Warriors were a bit irrelevant when you compare their toys and methods to the Ordo Reductor, I read something like that and I remember why I considered Iron Warriors allies for my Admech. Who knows, once I have my Matrix of Ruin pimped out I might start a Legion. I get that way sometimes, there's an excellent and sad explanation for why the 40k Admech are like they are that made me pick them as my first army.

Also, there's really not many batreps of Ordo Reductor around. Seems like most people run Cybernetica. I mean, the robots are cool, but sometimes you need to appreciate the simpler things. like craters.

>>50873833

Ordo Reductor needs more unique models. I want FW to make them an Artillery Platform with a ton of different guns you can put on it, and some sort of Breacher Squad for spearheading assaults into the breaches made by their Siege Engines.

>>50873698
I like the Fulgrim and Pertie comparison.

Fulgrim wad pretty happy with himself before he got to deep into corruption though.

>>50873812
Selling would be my intent, I've got no need to horde them all to myself. But if i were to sell, I don't know how much they would be :(. I could possibly assume cheaper than FW, but we'll see when we get there. Again, ill post my quick sketches in the next thread, got to get them from my phone

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>>50873863
You are a hero.

>>50873698
>Are you sure you weren't supposed to go to the XIII Legion, terran?
I'm the second you quoted, and nope. It's stated he did all that, invented stuff from all walks of science right after Olympia ran out of info for he to learn.
>It's undeniable that being a frustrated thinker and inventor denied his rightful recognition and opportunities is a huge part of Pert's character.
I do agree with your point. I mean he wanted to shine in fields other than military science and un-making
>And he didn't deliver a star empire or whatever.
Unlike Dorn and Guilliman, Perturabo didn't inherit a Star Empire, so he had to build one himself. He even towed the Dark Judges' archaeotech all the way to Olympia and built the Iron Ring out of it, made his planet the head of the whole star cluster, which is bigger than a single system. Not saying Dorn's ir Guilliman's were single systems, just saying Perturabo did build something great.

All the more bitter that he had to break Olympia with by his own hand in the rebellion.

>>50873714
Tbh I think AE only adds to this, it doesn't take away. He lets his guard down once in his life, and what happens? He gets betrayed, used in a daemonic ritual and gets his sons lured into a trap. When he orders the IW fleet to dive straight into the black hole, he is past caring

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>>50873850

I think the fact that there's no model for an ORAT has been great. It opens up for a lot of conversions materials. For example, I picked up a set of legion basilisk / medusa parts and the old Hydra sets, so I could make some turreted artillery using the parts and some 3d printed bits. I plan on basing the basilisk off the Batchat 155, and the medusas off the CGC.

>>50873889

He never drew attention to himself or do anything to try and make people see the job he was doing. And he also treated most of his brothers like shit. Calling Corax a Coward for not wanting to throw his Legion into a pointless frontal assault isn't selling himself well, and it seems aside from Horus and Magnus Peturabo didn't want to have anything to do with any of his Brothers, which can't have made them willing to give Peturabo a second glance.

It's not a one-way street. Peturabo might have been shafted, but he never did anything to try and alleviate that fact.

>>50873915
That's an adorable tonk.

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>>50873850
Yeah, they need some more love. Maybe some kind of crawler thing carrying a Void Shield Generator that has benefits against Barrage weapons? That allows you to do a creeping barrage type thing and push up groups of Myrmidons, Thallax, Vorax and such under the shield at two or three points in the enemy line, shrugging off scattered hits and counterfire.

I don't particularly want an artillery platform unless it was relatively cheap, since in the fluff they're disposable. Maybe an upgrade kit for a Basilisk or two that comes with a basic mounting and different barrels, as well as some Mechanicum crew? That would be good, especially if they sold them in pairs for £30 or so, so you could upgrade squadrons more easily.

>>50873915

I feel the same way. The tanks I have planned for my Admech are either Chimeras or Basilisks with different guns, plus servitor crew. Bit dull, but these are expendable workhorses. It's a tad hard to get hold of a Medusa cannon on its own, though, and I am trying to work out how to mount it on the Basilisk without ripping a huge hole in the gunshield. I would mount a third party gun in the back of a Chimera like pic related, but I play at a GW and they'd probably not allow that.

>>50874020
depends on the GW, my one doesnt mind some third party bits like a few guns unless the whole vehicle is third party. Yours might be stricter though.

Hey HH anons, I've a question.

What's a good way to run Word Bearers?

I want to do a melee heavy list, but I'm not sure what RoW to use. I'm thinking probably Pride or Chosen Duty for troop vets, maybe? That way all my troops have 3 attacks and can have up to two meltaguns in 10 man squads?

Also, what would be a good model for a Delegatus? I have BaC that I'm going to paint up as Ultramarines and Word Bearers for the board game, but then I realised that if I added in a Praetor or Delegatus I'd have two full armies that might add up to an about equal points costs.

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Is there an Internet in the Imperium? I have always wondered about it. Pic is semi-related.

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>>50873915
>Not basing them off the S-51
You have no sense of style and probably won't even mount dozer blades on the rear of your guns.

>>50874232
Look ma, a unicorn!