This is how I Chaos Lord.

>>50861821
>Chaos
>Lord
She's a dick or wishes she had one with daddy issues. Nothing more.

>>50861865
>She's a dick with daddy issues. Nothing more.

Isn't that a Chaos Lord?

>>50861821
>42kg
>Dealing any kind of harm to someone else

choose one.

>>50861821

Mordred a cute! A cute!

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>>50861927
Mordred is best bro to be absolutely homo with

>>50861821
bump for more anime threads

>>50861915
its porn, dumbass. stop being such a no-fun liberal

Is there any servant actually stronger than Gilgamesh? On an actual power-level basis, even though Fate often likes concepts countering each other and planning ahead?

>>50861915
Maybe if she had a gun or some sort of magic.
Or if the opponent weights 40kg

>>50862096

Full-strength Hercules, Enkidu and King Soloman are said to be at his level.

>>50862335
Karna. Nobunobu can gimmick him out with her strong anti-Mystery stuff. Queen of the Amazons was able to give him a run for his money in Strange Fake.

He's free to Sakura's vagina, too.

Also all non-surfing Mo-sans a shit.

>>50862096
There aren't really characters who are strictly speaking stronger than him other than the Aristoteles (the Types, the embodied apex of their celestial body's conceptual nature). There are characters who aren't super old Servants who probably have a "good match up" against him, but this is largely a matter of Gilgamesh being an utter retard who never comes out swinging his full strength and them incidentally fighting in a way that may be able to circumvent GoB long enough to catch him off guard and deal an unexpectedly decisive blow.

>>50862096
Enkidu as Divine Beast (Berserker), Solomon, Herakles (in Archer, also as Alcides).

That's basically it.

>>50861878
Apparently According to GW and ADB it is.

>>50863112

I didn't think the Japs knew about Star Wars.

>>50863123
Are you kidding? They fucking love Star Wars. If anything it's probably only slightly less big in Moonland as 'Murrica.

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>>50862096
Kazane Aoba could give him a run for his money.

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>>50863181
Fate/Grand Keijo would be amazing

>>50863171
They probably see the jedi as space samurai
Which isn't exactly wrong to be honest

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Wow. not even 20 posts in and we already have 1/3 of the necessary ingredients to a Type-Moon thread.

>>50863499
>old men
>for money

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Just gonna post some cute emperor.

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>>50863112

>>50863572
Why is Mysterious Heroine X there? How is she related?

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>>50863568

Nero is cute.

>>50863457
It's pretty well known that Star Wars took a lot of inspiration from Kurosawa films and chanbara flicks, so there's quite a bit of familiarity for them as well as having gone a long way to indirectly popularize Japanese media in the west.
Also, and this is super weird, Japan loves anything from the west that recognizes it. Because, I swear to fucking god, most Japanese people don't know that the rest of the world is aware that Japan exists.

Seriously, I've lived here for like 6 years plus and it still blows my mind. Most Japanese are CONVINCED the world outside Japan seriously has no idea the country exists at all, they don't know that anime and manga are a worldwide phenomena, they don't know Japanese restaurants are among the most popular "ethnic" food in the world, they're only barely conscious of the fact that Japanese video games are released outside Japan. And dramas? There's no way anyone outside of the archipelago could know they're even a thing. It speaks volumes about the sheltered world they live in over here, but I digress.

So because Star Wars is a nod to samurai flicks, they ate it up.

And it also helps that it's well known as one of the most groundbreaking and genre-defining film series of all time.

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>>50863614
I'm gonna tell you a secret anon, but you absolutely can't tell anyone else.
Mysterious Heroine X's true identity is Arturia Pendragon
I know it's shocking, but I promise you it's the truth.

>>50863685
I've heard some stupid shit in type-moon threads but this takes the cake. Shame on you anon. Shame.

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>>50863735
I know it's hard to believe, but it's the truth. Not everyone can accept it I suppose. I thought you would be open minded enough to, but I guess I was wrong.

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>>50863626
My liege!

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>>50861821
>traitor
>destroyed own kingdom
>wasn't the reason originally, edited to be there afterwards
Horus would be proud

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>>50863123
Yugioh just had a Wizard of Oz & Star Wars crossover

>>50863568
>posting Slaanesh cultist
Heresy

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>>50863541

You mean Tsundere Ojous for free, surely.

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>>50863866
>Yugioh just had a Wizard of Oz & Star Wars crossover
WAT?
What the fuck is happening to YGO these days?

>>50864209
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Kozmo

Oh fate/stay

The epitome of good ideas ruined by stupid shit and moe

>>50864606
>good ideas
Now, now, let's not say thing that we can't take back...

>>50864209
>What the fuck is happening to YGO these days?
I would say "running out of ideas" but that would imply they ever had any idea.

>>50864650
What's so bad about the idea of historical and fictional figures being summoned to duke it out over a magical secret war to obtain the Holy Grail?

>>50863541
electronic old men?

>>50864698
>>50864650
Mythological figure Pokemon is a good idea, could be very interesting. Could be.

>>50864734
>Mythological figure Pokemon
Isn't that basically what Shin Megami Tensei is?

>>50864760
Yeah but smt suffers from being wierd and up its own ass.

>>50863735
She literally came back from a dystopian cyber-punk future where Saber lookalikes are the ruling class of society and lancers are put to death because of running gag. Do you think they give a shit that you think it's dumb?

>>50864782
>smt suffers from being wierd and up its own ass
How so?

>>50864650
Sir Lancelot hijacking a fighter jet makes it all worth it.

>>50864807
Infinite realities and infinite universes make it hard to keep track of

Aye laddie, ye knoo whit ye shood date? Kill Alla yer friends

All of digital devil saga

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>>50864817
I didn't understand one iota of your post.

>>50864812
> SIR LANCELOT: MASTER OF THE NOSCOPE

I fucking loved his scenes.

>>50864828
Exactly

>>50864829
>>50864812
>INCOHERENT SCREAMING
>hits smug asshole with a fucking jet

Lancelot... Lancelot had a hard life...

Reminder that Merlin tamed Primate Murder

>>50864840
> Sniper rifle gets swatted away by King Arthur.
> Swings a machine gun from behind his back, firing the whole time.

>>50864807
>>50864828
SMT can be best defined as "DEEPEST LORE as shallow as a drying puddle."

>>50864850
> Someone taming Primate Murder.

EX-FUCKING-PLAIN

>>50864851
I love that no one talks about his epic RIDER KICK he used on Saber.

>>50864861
"Primate Murder is the form taken on by Cath Palug in worlds where he was not able to obtain a different perspective on humans by staying with Merlin."

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>>50864861
Fou, the little cute furry thing?

That's primate murder, from a universe where he became Merlin's buddy and familar

In universes where this didn't happen he's primate murder, the literal personification of murdering primates aka humans

Behold death, the destroyer of worlds.

>>50864881
Oh. Oh my goodness.

>>50864817
>Aye laddie, ye knoo whit ye shood date? Kill Alla yer friends
Fuck you dagda you're not my real dad

Series would be much much better if they fucked off with the saber faggotry and sucking Gilgamesh's dick all the time

So satisfying when he gets blown the FUCK out in UBW

>>50864939
I just want more Cu and EMIYA(Assassin).

>>50864792
Here's the joke. Alright? You paying attention
Here's your head.

Obligatory SIMO HAYA thread derail

>>50862096
Regular Gil? A number of them. Caster Gil? Who knows, the fucker is absurdly broken and is actually exactly as good as he's been always hyped up to be, being the mythical "Serious Gilgamesh".

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>>50864907
Also King Solomon was basically a successful version of Perfect King Machine that Artoria tried to be and erased himself from history to save the World.

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>>50862096
He's not a servant himself, but he can kill them.

>>50862096
Any Grand Servant, any Beast Class, Artoria, Lancer Artoria, Lancer Altoria Alter, Archer Artoria, Mystery Heroine X, Mordred, Pale Rider, Nameless Zealot, Enkidu, Arash, Gawain, probably Merlin and Scathach and Li Shuwen.

>>50862096
He recognises Altera as stronger than him in Extella because she's actually an ancient alien that killed all the gods and BTFO'd his ancestors and nearly wiped out all life on the planet 16000 years ago.

>>50863572
>they added two more after this was made

>>50864939
Gilgamesh actually steps it up and acts like a cool dude and proper king when he's a caster.

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THIS is how I Chaos Lord

>>50864902
Pretty sure his name may as well be Four, since he's the Fourth Beast.

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>>50863568
>posting emperor of stds

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>>50865835
>two more
I know there was Non-Alter Lancer Arturia, who was the other?

>>50864702
WARNING WARNING

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>>50864861
>forgetting Altrouge

>>50866592
Swimsuit Archer Artoria presumably.

>>50866883
I though that was just normal Arturia in a swimsuit. If doing that is enough to truly make her count as another servant, then that version has been around since F/HA

>http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/servant_profile.php?servant=129
>The same Artoria as always, but her attention is just a little more relaxed since this is the beach. Her class representative temperament has not changed, but it goes without saying that she is more gentle than usual. In this rare vacation, it should be fine to cut loose at least this time around - such is her stance. Also, one should play at the playtime. Wherever it is games or sports, she - who hates to lose - is aiming at the seat of strongest of the Archer class.

>The same Arturia as always

>>50865861
You know the attitude of an actual bratty teenager with way too much power is actually pretty much the perfect chaos lord, short sighted goals, evil and cruelty for their own sake because it's "cool" it all adds up

Who is the Titty Saber on horseback I've seen prancing about?

>>50865829

Is that as retarded as it sounds?

>>50867040
Sounds like a Hyboria/Yog-Sothery reference, honestly.

>>50867038

Lancer Arturia, from Grand Order iirc.

Its saber if she didnt pose as a boy and get de-aged or whatever. Basically sge is a big titted crusader milf with a holy spear.

>>50867049

So its retarded.

>>50867065
>shrugs
That's your opinion, anon.
It sounds like it ties into the Fall of Atlantis in Hyboria mythos that led to the destruction of Western civilization.

>>50861915
Not with that parade sword, but real weapons tend to be pretty light.

>>50867088

>implying some space cunt could stand up to the hax billshit that makes up the Hindi pantheons

Fair enough with the others though. They bake in their own armageddon routes by default.

>>50867120
>implying someone that rekt Western civ would have had anything to do with Eastern civ
Did you even read the post?

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>>50867054
Then there is her Alter version, both of them are pretty bland and forgettable desu.

>>50867274
Grail Milf is best milf.

>>50867040
That's not all, this alien was also so strong that she killed ALL the gods (who were actually aliens) and is the "trauma of the Gods of Olympus" and all the divine spirits fear her, and even the strongest of the gods, the primordial War God who would become the basis for Ares and Mars, lost to her and she took his sword as a trophy.

But she's from the Extra series which only exists to wank Nero, so when she fights Nero she loses because she's dazzled by how beautiful Nero is and just stands still like an idiot, and then she gives the war god's sword to Nero who uses it to channel Venus and get a new form with which she blows up an alien spaceship.

>>50866924
She has a different class (she's an archer), different skills, and a different NP.

>>50867427
man, i thought the nero wank was a joke only on the rome chapter of grand order

>>50867465
>saberface uber alles series
>not wanking its second most popular saberface

>>50867478
i undestand that the main artist waifus hard the saberface, but this WAY too much even as a joke

>>50867465
Also Extella retcons the previous games so that

-Nero is the canon servant
-Tamamo was some other guy's servant but tagged along anyway so Nero kicked her off a bridge
-Archer was another AI's servant and died

Pastebin from /vg/: http://pastebin.com/9Ai1Tg9i

>>50867556
>-Tamamo was some other guy's servant
That was technically true in the original too.

>>50867556
thats some bullshit of the hightest fucking order

>>50867588
Bonus: Nasu let it slip that this is also going to be the plot of the upcoming Extra movie. Enjoy!

Also Archer kills Gawain off-screen and replaces him as the 6th round opponent because we have a quota for shirouwank.

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>>50867588
No shit, Nasu has a bad case of George Lucas syndrome and mess with things that should had been left alone.

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>>50867634
>Also Archer kills Gawain off-screen
Good.
Fuck Gawain.

>>50861821
So you are saying you do a really shitty job then.

>>50867040
>Is that as retarded as it sounds?
Yes, and your first clue was that it is from an animated show from Japan. It actually sounds slightly less retarded and underpowered than the usual.

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>>50867054
That's not quite right.
Basically, Lancer Arturia is what happens when Arturia doesn't trade Rhongomyniad for Excalibur and Avalon. Rhongomyniad doesn't halt the aging process like Caliburn and Avalon do, so Lancer Arturia ages naturally. And it turns out that if she were allowed to grow up, Arturia would have been a titty monster.

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>>50867871
Whether or whether not this is a sign of Takeuchi being insecure about regular Artoria having smaller tits than Nero is up to debate.

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>>50867495
You can't stop the Uguchi.


>Takeuchi's Noble Phantasm is Unlimited King of Knights (無限の騎士王, ?) - "The mind of a human who pursues the blonde-haired female knight he adores until the utmost limit. Employing all his skills, an infinite number of characters similar to Saber will be given life. A great delusion that erodes the stance of the company."

>>50868083
Urobuchi's is pretty apt.

> Dead End Catharsis: Heaven & Hell Drop (地獄極楽おとしデッドエンド・カタルシス), which lowers the luck of all characters in his stories by one rank

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You wouldn't surf with a chaos lord.

>>50861821
>154cm
Womanlets, when will they learn?

>>50867871
>>50867904

I have only watched Zero, but uh, after looking at this, Extella, Ataraxia, and Extra, when did Fate become Queen's Blade with a budget????

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>>50868665
>ex-eroge franchise

Zero was always the odd man out when it came to tits&ass.

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xth for King Hassan

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Shitload of translated Fate smut just got uploaded to the Sad Panda, just letting you know if you're into that kind of things.

>>50869590
Kuro makes my dick diamonds

>>50868861
The Hassans are so fucking based.
All-Hassan grail war when?

>>50869749
Kuro a pure*.

* girl on girl is pure

>>50869590
Ah yes, smut. The only thing this garbage franchise is good for.

>>50870242
You take that back. The fake trailer for Prototype is great.

>>50870242
>expecting or wanting anything more from a chinese porn franchise

>>50861878
Zing

I actually like the concept of a huge Chaos Lord being merely a qt grill

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>>50864655

The original so many volumes are actually pretty neat, even when the card game becomes the main focus it still is. If the series itself went downhill at all it's possibly because Kazuki Takahashi was either only in a supervising role in the case of any manga or in the case of the anime may not have been involved at all.

I'll admit though that some of the stuff I've seen from the card game from time to time and it trying to have its own story is kind of cool.

>>50864792

That's amazing.

>>50864782

The weirdness however is what makes SMT refreshing, in addition to being a JRPG which makes use of contemporary settings, "choice", and in the case of at least the last three Persona games dealing with psychological issues.

>>50867848

Fate is first and foremost a visual novel series and I'm pretty sure what is being talked about there is in fact from a video game. I actually think that all of Fate's animated works are merely adaptions.

>>50864544
>>50863866

Is there anything like ArtOfMtg for Yu Gi Oh? I'd love to get some larger art of some of the Kozmo cards.

>>50871772
About ArtOfMtg
someone has a link for the pfds?

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>>50862096
The ones people have already said are pretty much the nly ones that beat him without rock-paper-scissors mechanics, unless Arcueid can get summoned too by now. I wouldn´t be surprised with all the bullshit Grand Order is pulling
I invite you to guess who is this handsome right here

>>50872039

Edison.

>>50872039
I fucking love Grand Order because of shit like this, Mysterious Heroine X, and Assassin EMIYA. I don't even play it, but holy shit this stuff is just too good.

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>>50872107
>tfw dr roman won't come back

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>>50872107
Have you heard of our lord and savior Mecha Pilot Charles Babbage?

>>50872063
It was supposed to be a surprise. If you already know the answer its no fun
>>50872107
I do admit that there are some interesting new servants, but holy shit some of the shit they do is too fucking stupid
How many new genderbents we got already? how many alters? how many genderbent alters?
and they go for one interesting historical figure, and you just fucking know before even looking at the stats that its going to get at least an EX and an E, most of the time more
I liked Assassin EMIYA too

>>50872039
Why was he summoned like that, anyway? There was some stuff about a Mystic Code, but I can't find any detailed info.

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>>50872190
Because the Grail is a damn weird thing, and decided to make him a lion-man in reference to the MGM lion, referencing how Edison helped invent and propagate films and motion picture.

And at some point he stole the powers of the US presidents to give him a power boost, so weird shit abounds

>>50872257
>Charles Babbage
>He's a robot
>A mathematician turned scientist from the 19th Century. The King of Steam who dreamed about the revolution of the world. The prodigious great scholar who employed a steam engine to invent the first computers in the world - the "Difference Engine" and the "Analytical Engine".
This has "Hikaru Sakurai" written all over it. Only she could pull of that kind of writing.

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>>50872187
Have some feels.

I liked that edgy bastard, dammit. It's not fair, but at least he kicks ass.

>>50872257
I loved how his NP looked in FGO it's a shame I never rolled him

>>50872257
> Noble Phantasm is basically searing the enemy with the burning light of his muscular figure.

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Celtic Pride!

>>50872962
> Daring to sully Cu by having him share a pic with Diarmuid.

https://youtu.be/zpz5WgRlGLM

>>50872981
>a baby
>for getting backstabbed and shat on his entire existence

Diarmuid was completely justified for cursing those treacherous dogs.

>>50873018
All are babies before Cu. It really isn't fair for us.

>>50873025
Hell I bet Cu would be sympathetic as fuck towards Diarmuid. Give him a bro hug and say shit lets drink till we jump start a new Epic.

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>>50873018
Deermud's place in the world is to get bullied by others.
>gets shit over in 0
>appears as saber in america pv only to be lancer in chapter and constantly gets bullied by mcbukkake while cu ends up becoming the 2nd bbeg for the chapter

>>50873088
Getting a face full o' those tits is pretty good compensation.

>>50866640
UNATCO?

>>50861915
Magic nigga.

>>50873182
also i think mordred is a homonculus there, so its bullshit strength by default

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>>50864977
When will Audie Murphy become a servant?

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>>50861821
OH BOY I POSTED THINGS AGAIN

>>50873424
I just want to summon Jaden Smith as a Caster.

Mordred is cute, CUTE!

>>50873917
Many Type-Moon characters are.

Especially Kirei.

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>>50872150
>implying

>>50863672
>Seriously, I've lived here for like 6 years plus and it still blows my mind. Most Japanese are CONVINCED the world outside Japan seriously has no idea the country exists at all, they don't know that anime and manga are a worldwide phenomena, they don't know Japanese restaurants are among the most popular "ethnic" food in the world, they're only barely conscious of the fact that Japanese video games are released outside Japan.
I call bullshit. Japan is insular, but I call bullshit about this being plausible in today's social media era.

>>50872294
>hur king of steam
Stupid contrarian BL EOP shitposter fake translators.

He's called the Steam King which is what he's called in the steampunkverse too, and is also a 碩学 which is what he is in the steampunkverse too.

Also he's a robot with the exact same colour scheme as steampunkverse's robot Steam King Babbage.

F/GO Babbage is basically a huge reference to Sakurai's steampunkverse, yeah.

>>50874351
That stupid JCE's probably some ALT faggot teaching in the middle of nowhere like Gunma or something, he's full of shit.

>>50874554

Arc a cute

would make sweet passionate love to her and hold hands afterwards.

>>50874617
I can't look at Arc without remembering that my favorite character may actually be Neco Arc Chaos.

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>>50874617
Do not sexualize Archetype:Earth

>>50872039
>The ones people have already said are pretty much the nly ones that beat him without rock-paper-scissors mechanics, unless Arcueid can get summoned too by now

Depends. He has a solid chance to push her shit in.
Q: Who is stronger, Gilgamesh or Arcueid (30%)? While Arcueid has the strength of 4 Servants, I remember there being a scene in hollow implying that Gil was the equivalent of 5 Servants + a.

A. In the definition of Arcueid's strength, there's this thing where "her output changes according to her opponent". As an absolute order taken from her backup, the planet, she is allowed only an output a little stronger than her opponent. And. Single entity abilities of Arc and Servants are roughly on the same level

Servants use their respective Noble Phantasms while Arc uses her unlimited backup to fight, and differences occur depending on affinity. A simple-is-best Arc is an all rounder, and so generally her chances of winning are only high, but there are those opponents that she just has helplessly awful compatibility with.

For example, in cases where even if the guy's stats are about the same as Arc, he has a ridiculously large number of weapons with high versatility. As the amount Arc is allowed to take out is based on "single entity ability", against types like Gil-sama, well, you see?

And the "5 Servants + a" line is a comparison of simple "firepower". Like with the "corpses", foot soldier level opponents aren't going to be avoiding their attacks, so the ones who'd have the advantage are the ones who have more weapons. The reason why Servants excellent at one-on-one combat didn't stand out in Broad Bridge was because of this. Also, for normal Arc, she would get approximately the equivalent of 2 Servants single entity stats.

>>50864209
>He didn't negate
Faggot deserves the loss

>>50870504
I don't.

Other faggots keep trying to sell the franchise to me as the lost chapters of the Iliad, however.

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>>50873917

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>>50863568
Slaanesh approves of this heresy

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Primate Murder is a Beast

Seven Grand Servants are required to fight a Beast

Thus Grand Servants, if not the same thing as Counter Guardians, are equal in power to them?

Additionally, Sthenno can defeat Primate Murder because she can charm him (seen in the story) and as she is not a primate he has no power over her.

Thus, Sthenno is stronger than Primate Murder and equal to seven Grand Servants or Counter Guardians.

King Hassan alone as a non-grand can defeat Tiamat. He is clearly stronger as a grand, but we do not know how strong so let us assume that as a grand he is equal to Tiamat. He is one of seven Grand Servants, therefore seven Grand Servants is equal to seven Beasts.

Sthenno is thus equal to seven Beasts.

Just leaving the latest /fgog/ spoiler pastebin here in case anyone's interested.

http://pastebin.com/sNhi1CXF

>>50861821
And people say Tau are the weebs.

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>>50882412
Every faction is weeb is you play it right.

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>>50882412
>>50882982
For example.

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>>50861821
This is how I counter your Lord

Waifu Fagotty was a mistake

Female Arthur was a mistake

That fucking chingchong hack was a mistake

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>>50887283
And yet, he's richer then you'll ever be.

Seems he made the right choice to me!

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>>50861821
This is how I Paladin and Mount.

I haven't followed this franchise since carnival phantasm can someone tl dr everything since then?

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>>50890609
That was five years ago. I'm not sure I could list all the works that came out since then, let alone summarize them.

>>50890609
>2011
Oh boy.

TL;DR

Aliens, Demons, Alternative universes, Saints, Bitches and Whores, Power Levels, God and Goddesses, Cthulu nonsense.

I think that's the majority of it.

>>50890703
I also read and watched Prisma illya

>>50890724
And played fate extra on PSP

>>50861821
This is just armor pieces from Diablo 3 tacked on a little girl, you unoriginal faggot.

>>50890703

Is this Pavarti?

>>50877429
Honestly, Kirei would be an Inquisitor.

>>50891134
lol no.

Kiara Sessyoin is the true antagonist of Fate Extra CCC. She wants the whole world to be happy and saved and so decided to drown it all in lust.

Note the name. One of her moves is literally fucking the whole earth.

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When the hell is best character going to be put in Grand Order?

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>>50890609
Grand Order:

The 72 goetic Demons (Beast I) pretending to be Solomon goes around erasing time to gather up enough energy through 3000 years of human history to destroy everything and recreate the universe and make humans deathless because of the Pity he feels for man after the visions of the future they saw made them despair after being told by Solomon to watch over humanity before he died. Your boss Dr. Roman (Solomon) erases himself out of existence so hard he's no longer in the Throne of Heroes to foil his plan following a convoluted plan from God to leave behind one of his rings, allowing him to be summoned in a prior HGW, wish to live as a human for 11 years and save the day.You then fist fight him using your CS and he finally learns the meaning of life and death, and that even with death existing, lives still have meaning. And also your dog-cat-rabbit thing is Primate Murder.

Before this you did things like teaming up with Saberface (Male) to return Excalibur to Divine Spirit Arturia (featuring rude tits) and stop her from building a space colony out of Rhongomyniad, teamed up with Post-Enkidu Gilgamesh, the world's oldest hikkikomori and dick-ass wizard, the first Hassan who may or may not be any number of antediluvian figures, a turbonerd divine spirit with no friends, to defeat Beast II, Tiamat who until you lobotomized, and maneuvered very carefully into a very specific situation had no concept of death, immune to attacks below A++ rank, had authority over every living thing, reverse damage through time travel, and would overrun the world with monsters in 7 days. Gilgamesh also dies twice during this but he gets better the first time. You also teamed up with Thomas Edison and some other losers to stop Queen Medb and her original character do not steal Cu-chan from conquering America in the 1700s. And some other shit.
Also the Beasts represent "sins" that mankind must destroy in order to advance as a whole.

>>50891406
k

>>50891406
This... sounds like Fate alright.

>>50874600
Get raped by a migrant. I bet you've not even read anything beyond Inganock.

>>50877447
>Thus, Sthenno is stronger than Primate Murder and equal to seven Grand Servants or Counter Guardians.
Go back to the Epic Versus Thread, Dartz.

>>50874600
Maybe he is called that in order to denote specifically that he is not, in fact, the exact same character, so that people who actually knew what the fuck they were reading about would not be mistaken.

Really makes you think.

>>50892050
But in Japanese they're called the exact same thing because it's a reference.

The shitty fan translators are just ignorant.

>>50891544
Drown in a pool of nigger cum with your whole family, faggot.

>>50867871
iirc the actual flavor text on lancer arturia leaves it ambiguous whether being a titty monster was a natural result of aging or if the spear itself caused a few specific "parts" to "grow".

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>>50892911
Lancer Artria Alter has something to that effect, but regular Lancer Arturia doesn't from what I recall.

>>50873215
Not to mention, she fights like saber which means using magic to propel the sword forward faster and stronger than humanly possible.

>>50868665
>when did fate become queens blade with a budget.

Well, that depends on how you look at it. On one hand, it was basically a porno to start with. As for when it got a budget, that was Zero. When it was both was UBW and Kaleid. And probably most of it from here on out because fate as a series has blown up to epic proportions.

Anyone have a link to the original Fate/Stay vn? Seems like as good a place to ask as any

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>>50893681
Nyaa should have a decently seeded torrent for it.

>>50893650
>fate as a series has blown up to epic proportions.
Reminder that there are articles about Fate GO beating the shit out of Pokemon GO on Bloomberg and Forbes.

>>50893823
In japan, maybe. Worldwide? fucking no way.

>>50891406
Man, no wonder earlier fate fans are throwing an absolute shitfit about this. This is retarded on levels only fate could ever reach, and levels fate should never have reached.

>>50892911
That's because Lancer Alter was released before regular Lancer Alter and the Avalon chapter, so she has a joke description that claimed her tits grew due to the spear pumping magic into her or something akin to that, That was later fixed to reveal that she was had the same circumstances as regular Lancer Arturia, but embraced her draconic origins and led the Wild Hunt.

>>50891406
Nasu is a hack

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>>50891406
what the fuck. sasuga nasu

>>50893681
You'll want the Realta Nua versions, they have voice acting.

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So who had christmas dinner with their Fate/Waifu?

>>50893845
FGO's japan profits alone beat Pokego's worldwide profits.

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>>50895023
That is pretty normal weird as far as Nasu goes.

>>50861878
Kek'd

>>50895097
That's what happens when you appeal to audiences that have jobs instead of kids in school.

>>50867819
Who have it worse, Toriyama or Nasu

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>>50866960

>>50872039
The inventor trio are pretty cool, we got a kamen rider, Leomon and a mecha pilot.

>>50894227
They shouldn't, considering Grand Order's Camelot, Babylon, and Solomon chapters have been the best things Nasu has actually written and been involved with in years.

There's a lot of simplification in there, but the entire game has been building up for nearly a year and a half to the things involving Solomon as the climax of part 1.

>>50895935
Only EOP shits are. Japan's Type Moon fans are loving FGO, that's why it's doing so well.

>>50894227
The only complaints I have ever heard about it are the standard /v/ complaints surrounding all mobile games.
As for myself, the only thing Type-Moon is doing that I think is worth is bitching about is the absolutely atrocious redesigns for everyone in the Tsukihime remake. Fortunately, that will never actually come out, so I'm safe from how awful they all are.

>>50896303
can't be as bad as the anime was.

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>>50896337
Just because they aren't as bad as THAT steaming pile of horse shit, does not mean they are not still a steaming pile of horse shit.
Arc and Ciel are especially shit, and Sachich is also terrible. Akiha and the maids aren't TOO bad, but that's because they were barely changed and are just a victim of the terrible new art style.

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>>50896395
And don't even get me started on Shiki himself.

>>50896395
I admit ciel looks off, but i don't see the problem with mini-skirt arc.

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>>50896395
>Sachich
That was meant to be Sacchin, but in my fury I got her nickname wrong.
I'm sorry Sacchin.

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>>50896433
Go fornicate with a cactus, miniskirt Arc is shit.
SHIT.

>>50896447
While i admit that long-skirt arc is probably better thematically, the actual change in design from mini-skirt to long skirt is literally just the skirt. Her character as a whole doesn't suffer at all from it.

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>>50896464
>is literally just the skirt
>not noticing the hair-intakes are gone too, making her look like a generic saber-face.
Pay attention anon, these things are important.

>>50896493
Okay, you win this one.

That said, i still think its not that big a deal. What happened to ciel is far worse.

>>50864977
I want Caster Robert Oppenheimer with a Project Manhattan NP.

>>50896509
I kinda agree, but Arc is still pretty bad. If I had to rank the new designs from worst to least worst, it would be.
>Ciel
>Arc
>Satsuki
>Akiha
>The Maids
The maids had the exact same changes maid to their outfits, so I can't really say which is less offensive. I guess if I had to choose it would be Kohaku, but only because I liked her design better in the first place. Hair ribbons are cute.

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>>50892947
>My adorable dfc paladin will turn into a titty monster if she's allowed to age a few years

No! I refuse to accept this as canon!

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>>50896593
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

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>>50896593
If you really cared about her, you wouldn't care about what she grew up to look like, as long as she stayed the same inside.

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>>50894227
>no wonder earlier fate fans are throwing an absolute shitfit about this
As far as I've recorded at all, most Type-Moon fans are ecstatic that it's going completely off the rails. Mr. Kinoko's Wild Ride is fucking enjoyable.

I know the revelation of what Fou really was sent my head spinning a mile a minute and I loved every second.

The only thing I hate about Grand Order are the comedic/joking/otherwise nonserious events. The summer event was awful in particular. The serious content is more hilarious than the lighthearted content.

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>>50896705
Y-you're right. It's what's inside that counts.

I'll start hoping that something like a flattening spell exists in canon.

>>50897073
When people are shattering dimensional boundaries and altering time with little knowledge of actually doing so, sky's the limit.

That said, i think titty monster arturia is cute in her own way.

>>50896841
>As far as I've recorded at all, most Type-Moon fans are ecstatic that it's going completely off the rails. Mr. Kinoko's Wild Ride is fucking enjoyable.
This. I love when Nash makes up new bullshit for us to enjoy. What I don't like is retcons, making sense of all this stuff the first time around was hard enough, now I have to figure out what's changed and relearn it?

>>50897890
>Nash
Fuck my phone

>>50896509
Yeah, with Arc you can still sorta tell who she is supposed to be.

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>>50872320
>Have some feels.

Right back at you.

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>>50900050

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>>50901093
Its cannon that they never succeeded in finding Hakunos body.

>>50863568
Nero a shit. Tamamo a best.

>>50901593
Really? When was that revealed?

>>50888389
>HURR DURR HE HAS MONEY
>THAT MAKES HIM RIGHT

Slip that cock out of your mouth and clear your ears.

>>50861821

I can't be too mad, as at least she bothers to wear mostly practical armor, horns aside.

>>50902461
Why can't people ever stop bitching about armor practicality in settings where it's obvious the character designers didn't even make that a consideration?

>>50902432
In this case, yes, 100%.

Cry more bitch tears, faggot. You'll never be rich with weebucks. No mistakes. Just you crying about how its not you.

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>>50901733
Extella.

Nasu's confirmed canon route is that Rin and Rani get kicked out of Mooncell while Hakuno goes onto beat twice and takes the Regalia as the grail war's price, and becomes the new absolute god-emperor of Mooncell. Also the NPCs are gaining sentience.

Also you know how Earth is dying? People from the surface are now migrating to Mooncell.

After the weird bitter endings in Extra and CCC they just decide to go full retard with happy endings in Extella.

>>50902894
and let people have fun WRONG?! You speak madness Anon, MADNESS!

>>50904747
>Tamamo
>Sharing
What did they do to her?

Hey, since you guys seem to know your nasuverse, I want to know if I'm understanding the nasu setting's mechanics. If I'm understanding correct, magic is some sort of incubative force for life on earth, put there by an entity that caused life on earth, to help life along its evolutionary path before it can develop technology good enough to replace it, getting weaker as tech gets stronger/more prevalent, and once life develops sustainable space travel level technology the force responsible for life on earth/magic will make earth life immortal? And, as such, those who attempt to gain power/immortality via magical means are actually doing things ass-backwards as opposed to those who are trying to do so through technology?

>>50905171
None of that is correct

Literally not one bit

>>50905171
>magic is some sort of incubative force for life on earth, put there by an entity that caused life on earth, to help life along its evolutionary path
Not sure how and where you got this from.

>>50905171
Mana is a natural resource that can dry up.

Nobody put it there.

There is no "entity" or "force responsible".

Nobody will make Earth life immortal.

You can totally make yourself immortal with magic.

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>>50896841
>not loving scenes like this

>>50905267
That fucker Nasu referenced Diablo 3 in CCC, what are the chances this was referencing Quake?

>>50905257
>>50905265
>>50905245
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Spirit
I got the "entity that put life there" and the "give immortality to spacefaring life" from the "Earth mother goddess" segment of the above page, and assumed the fact that magic seems to get weaker as time goes in proportion to how technology advances was a part of this system. My assumption here in their relation is incorrect? Ok, noted, but in this case that still doesn't deal with removing life from the cycle of mortality once it's space-faring. Is that still accurate, given the above link's info?

>>50905336
There is not a causal link between space faring and immortality, no.

>>50905336
Earth Mother Goddess is just the source of the ecosystem. From her comes Beast II and from Beast II comes all life. There is no relationship with her and magical energy. Magical energy first began degrading with the death of King Solomon (decline of the Age of Gods), then degraded further with the coming of Jesus Christ (end of Age of Gods, beginning of Age of Man), degrades more with the fall of Camelot (final neutralization of the Age of Gods), and has been on a downward slope since then.

You're misinterpreting what descending from the Earth Mother Goddess means. It basically means that to deny her Authority over all life, one needs to transcend her bounds and either become spacefaring (leaving Earth's dominion completely) or not be created by her to begin with.
It doesn't make you immortal, though. It's not like she invented death spans. Death is a natural part of anything that isn't perfect.

>>50905336
Other than
>Type Moon Wiki
I don't even see where you got "entity that put life there" and "Give immortality to space faring life" on that page.

>>50905336
>type moon wiki
The mother goddesses were the CONCEPTS of giving birth to life on Earth but they didn't actually do it, Earth itself did

Divine spirits are the remnants of the gods from the age of gods who lost their power

The gods were aliens that embodied concepts who were assholes that wanted to be worshipped

None of this shit about mortality is anywhere ever you fucking retard

>>50905336
please never link this wiki again mkay

>>50905448
hm, then what does the statement "Only when they have fulfilled the wish of the Çatalhöyük, leaving the planet for space and ending the infantile stage of intelligent lifeforms, will they no longer be bound to it." in regards to the Cycle of life and death mean? Is it just a symbolic statement that once life reaches the stage of space travel it will be outside the confines of what is natural to earth and free to do as it pleases with its nature and cycle?
>>50905462
oh, ok, yes it is, my mistake, it's difficult to know what is a symbolic statement and what is an explicit statement for me when learning about this setting. My assumption with her and magic was under the assumption that the space-faring thing was an explicit statement and that the proportion in change of tech to magic was purposeful rather than just because of dwindling resources. Thank you for clarifying.

>>50905462
Tiamat didn't birth life, Gaia did, Tiamat is an ancient god and the concept of life being birthed from a mother, that's why her authority is over "anything born from a mother". The reddit translations were wrong.

>>50905523
>hm, then what does the statement
It means that EOP wikis are filled with fanfiction bullshit.

>>50905543
>>50905521
As far as I was aware it had the most information on the setting in any one given place, is there a better resource outside of getting all the source materials individually? If not, which materials have the most extensive information on the setting itself, that I can learn from them at minimum cost?

>>50905509
>None of this shit about mortality is anywhere ever you fucking retard
there was, actually, an entire paragraph about the cycle of life and death and intelligent lifeforms not being bound to it upon space travel achievement, but that has been cleared up as symbolic. Your hostility is wasteful.

>>50905526
Gaia is a counter force, it hasn't made anything except Primate Murder. Tiamat (Beast II) is the primordial sea used as the building blocks for life, which was discarded after a desired quantity of life was achieved.
It's not a god, it's a Beast. More like a tool, it's a massive quantity of true ether and life energy that spawns life forms continuously. Basically what Nrvnqsr Chaos wanted to become.

>>50905580
The actual best source is to read the damn things yourself, or pull bits of trivia out of the people who do. The wiki is probably the quickest way to learn stuff, but don't quote it in front of people, lest they get triggered.

There are a good bunch of community project that do a similar thing, but in a less organized way, like https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1NEZzQsil7Zgkajr6ESYIoW1JNN6aeBuG4kE2SZWghXw , which answers a lot of dumb questions people can have if they're willing to ctrl+f through it for the topic.

>>50905606
Beast is a class that you obtain. Tiamat's material literally says she became a beast only after she woke up in Babylon and decided to rebirth all life. Goetia similarly only became a Beast after Solomon died and he decided to remake the planet.

Tiamat was an extension of the original mother goddess which was the concept of life being born and the mother of the gods of Babylon.

All of this is in Extella (+mats) and FGO.

>>50905606
>>50905645
Also, Nero and Tamamo are potential beasts.

>>50905654
I get how Tamamo might work but how does Nero fit into this? I thought all she could do was summon the Beast of Revelations or similar.

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>>50905645
You forgot the part where Tiamat's brain is cute.
Cute!

>>50905645
It is still the source of life, it's just not the architect of life. Beast II itself is artificial, but the biosphere was crafted of its flesh. The world may be the painter, but she is the brush, so to speak. It's not a goddess, her profile explicitly says to call her a goddess is a false title.
She's barely even alive herself when you get down to it, and is more like a puddle of muck that spits out life. Quite literally the primordial ooze.

>>50905622
Huh, neat, thank you for that link. So yes read the wiki, but don't take any of its info as explicitly true? Got it. I'm interested in very few of the characters of the setting and more for the setting itself, which is why I don't want to go through every single game/novel for it, and because I tend to skim things if I'm bored and don't want to do that if there's a chance something important in regards to the setting might be discussed. It's situations like this that I can get confused, so quoting what I've read for clarification does help, even if met with triggering as you've described.
As an aside, explicit or symbolic, the statement that started this is still surprisingly pro-science for a fantasy setting, and is one of the reasons I started trying to learn more. I like it when fantasy settings do that.

>>50905676
Mother Harlot (who was on the leaklist same as Tiamat) is probably going to wind up being like Beast VI at this point, and there's been a bunch of hints all over the place like her getting migraines whenever she thinks about the grail, someone else mentioning a darkness or beast inside of her in Septem or an Interlude

>>50905712
>>50905622
>The Writers of Type Moon
>Nasu
>Compulsive liar
>Is Amused By His Fans Trying To Make Sense of Anything
awp, shit, I'm part of the problem

>>50905749
>Beast VI
Why would she be the Nega Messiah?
Probably Beast III or V.

>>50905749
Oh so it's just speculation.

While I know she's probably capable of summoning the Beast of Revelations, Kohaku-Ace image goes here, there's big divide between that and being the Beast.

>>50891406

Doesn't it also have a goddess of bestiality possessing one of the main girls from F/SN?

>>50905749
>>50905802
Ignoring Nero for a moment, the Megatherion of Revelation is already confirmed in Fragments to be Beast IV (same position as Primate Murder/Fou for some reason).

>>50905676
FGO and CCC foreshadowed her being the Mother Harlot. Her headaches are caused by MH.

>>50905827
Anytime Sakurai might contradict Nasu, Sakurai is wrong.

>>50905687
>her profile explicitly says to call her a goddess is a false title.
What kind of shitty translation are you looking at? It says she is NO LONGER a goddess because she wants to rebirth life and BECAME A BEAST.

goddamned secondaries

>>50905841
Yes yes, Beast of Revelations etc. and I saw it in Koha Ace too but there's difference between Mother Harlot and actual Beast.

>>50905827
Beast is a class that anyone can take, it's just that each world can only have seven.

666 in Prototype having a number taken in FGO just means "sorry IV's done so no 666 in FGO"

>>50905884
Koha ace isn't canon you retarded cunt, CCC and Septem straight up say

-the biblical whore of babylon is nero (ccc)
-she has a beast inside her (nero)
-her headaches give her destructive visions (nero)
-she has the potential to become a BEAST OF CALAMITY (romulus) which was later revealed to be another name for the beasts

>>50905827
We learned in Solomon that the Beasts are sort of like containers, same as the Grand Servant Classes are, so depending on how events unfold multiple different beings could potentially become the same Beast class..

Alternatively, because it ties into Manaka and her Beast basically being the proto-type idea wise of Altrouge and PM.

>>50905908
Oh and her headaches get worse in Solomon where she's in close proximity to Beast I, and Gilgamesh says "beasts awakening are a chain reaction, and now VII has awoken"

>>50905908
Koha Ace may not be canon but it still foreshadowed that Nero was the Mother Harlot.

>>50905859
If you could actually read her profile you'd see it says
>創世の女神など偽りの名。
It doesn't say she "became" a beast anywhere. Are you just pretending to be able to read japanese?
The closest line in her profile is just
> 其は人間が置き去りにした、人類史に最も拒絶された大災害。その名をビーストⅡ。七つの人類悪のひとつ、『回帰』の理を持つ獣である。

>>50905749
Why the hell would she have nega messiah, she's VII. Gilgamesh says VII has awokenin the same event where her headaches get worse.

>>50905945
日本語のニュアンスが微塵も理解してない奴が日本語を語るとか笑えるわwww

自害しろカス

>>50905935
>>50905948
Gil just says he expects VII is around somewhere, he wasn't addressing Nero.

>>50905963
the fuck is this nip-nong bullshit

>>50905963
チョン国を帰る
Typing w does not make you japanese

>>50905964
Nero: "my headaches are getting worse"

MEANWHILE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TEMPLE

Gil: "Beast VII has awoken"


No relation okay

>>50906011
>国を帰る

Being unable to use Japanese makes you a retarded EOP secondary. Kill yourself.

>>50906024
It was not nearly as definite as "Beast VII is here now!" it was more like "They arrive in a chain so I'm not surprised if Beast VII is already somewhere in the world"

>>50906039
だが断る。
Oh look I used a 2ch meme does that make me japaneeeese?

>>50905802
>>50905948
It'd tie into Revelation mostly.
Most depictions of the Whore of Babylon riding a beast have her on the first beast with 7 heads and ten horns which is generally interpreted to be the antichrist.

But fuck if I know, I'm just here for mushroom man's wild ride.
Did the sins listed in Chapter 5 of Babylon in that dream about Tiamat tie into the other beasts in order?

>>50906041
In THIS world. And the time temple is a separate world.

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>>50906092
Seems like a bit of a stretch but I wouldn't put it past Nasu.

>>50906058
No

>>50906143
Gil's the guy with the anti-world reality marble breaking NP, and the time temple is a reality marble. I think he should know what he's talking about.

>yfw he could have stopped goetia just by taking out ea but didn't bother to even fight the demons and only showed up to laugh at them

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>>50905809
Only if you're trying to simplify Ishtar's domains to shitpost about Rin being a slut or something.

But yes, Rin is used as the pseudoservant vessel for Ishtar (and also her NEET sister who has no friends, Ereshkigal), due to high priestess of Uruk summoning her.
This resulted in mellowing out Ishtar a little bit making he less of a crazy bitch and able to see things from something closer to a human perspective and in her own words her personality as a servant is a 70-30 mix of Ishtar and Rin, but it also resulted in nerfing one of her personal skills for reasons I don't remember off the top of my head.

Man I enjoy people who convinced themselves of their own headcanons getting shit on by FGO.
Especially when they complain about things that were in the original.

>>50906239
I mean considering the massive respect boner he had for Roman, he couldn't exactly deny him the one moment his human life had been building up to could he?

>>50906312
Primate murder is irrelevant and tsukihime is dead

>>50906366
same as it ever was

>>50906366
>Primate murder is irrelevant
Primate Murder is straight up nonexistent, rather.
Fou is not Primate Murder. Fou is the nascent being that could become Primate Murder in other potentialities, but it didn't in Grand Order. He even says he'd be a lot different in those worlds.

>>50906286

And exchanging homosexuality for bestiality.

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>>50905753
>- (interviewer says something about K-On having female superiority)
>Nasu: No, instead of female superiority, thats's just absence of men. It looks like girls are being prioritized, but if men don't appear to begin with, it's like nothing more than building a farm where there can be no antagonism. In that sense, women become more like mascots... it might mean looking down on them. Not by the creators, but by the audience. Speaking of my own works, people often tell me "Nasu-san, you really appreciate women's rights, because you write stories with strong girls in them", and I agreed too, but lately I started thinking that might not be the case. In Tsukihime and in Fate, the heroines Arcueid and Saber are the ones fighting on the front lines and the protagonists are behind them. In Kara no Kyoukai, the fighting is always left to the heroine Ryougi Shiki, and the protagonist Kokutou Mikiya becomes just the man who feeds the heroine. That composition is actually very male chauvinistic. When you think about physical strength and emotional strength, the latter is more difficult to achieve. Anyone can be strong if they pick up a weapon, but you can't become mentally strong just by obtaining a thing. In the works of Nasu Kinoko, strength in battle is possessed by the heroines, and the male characters symbolize emotional strength. When I noticed this, I felt like even I'm stuck in my ways [?] in some respects. For example Arcueid is said to be the strongest in the world of Type-Moon [REJOICE DARTZ], but at the same time because she's in love with Shiki she tends to give in to what he says. At those times the man is the one put in a superior position. If it were truly even, Arcueid could use her superfluous power to send Shiki flying. Like "you two-timing bastard!" lol

Holy shit, he nailed the entire issue and he doesn't even live in a SJW-heavy environment.

>>50907994
It's an interesting quote, but I feel like it also epitomizes part of the "problem".

Like, you could interpret it that way...but you could also interpret anything anyway.

People who are obsessed with reading gender statements in fantasy/adventure characters (who's genders are often incidental) are never going to be satisfied with anything. Because there's *always* room to interpret something in a way they don't like.

SJW or Fedora, you can never fully satisfy a zealot.