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Four arms are better than two.

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>>50842858

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word bearers a shit
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>>50849761
Morld eaters the best legion
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>only 4

fucking scrub
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Our Martyred Lady is best order.
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>>50849771
world*
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6th for chainsword for a mouth
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>>50849752
>tfw Black Templars are Khornates
>Complete devotion to their god
>Masters of swords and assault
>CRUSADES (of blood)
>Honorabu melee combat
>Hate witches
>really hate witch
>witch bad
>sharp sticks
>pointy stick too
>sharp and pointy sticks
>mebbe an axe or two
>no lances though
>no one gets lances
>ever
>no one
>not evn ur mom
>it makes sense
>trust me
>pointless line of green text
>look at my pic
>you clicked on it
>dont lie
>you clicked i know u did
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Execution Force is the sexiest force
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>>50849867
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>>50849830
I thought this was going to be serious. Then I saw the rest of your post and had a laugh.

>you clicked i know u did
That part got me.

Also, quick rules question:
Can a unit that has no ranged weapons use the run action in the shooting phase? I feel like the answer is yes, but I don't know.

If so, the max move a Maulerfiend could move in one turn is 30", iirc. 12 in movement, 6 in run, 12 in charge.
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So, what are you working on /tg/?

Making any progress? Show us what you've been up to!
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What are a good stand in for Cadians for a bit cheaper?
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>>50849786
There was a long stretch where I almost started collecting sisters because of that color scheme alone. I'm glad I came to my senses once I did my research and realized none of the models were in plastic.
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>>50849890
>cheaper than cadians
Uh, the Dark Vengeance cultists I guess? Cadians are dirt cheap though bro.
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>>50849786
Lies.

Best order is Argent Shroud.
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>>50849890
There's always the foot soldiers from the fantasy range.
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>>50849889
Building GSC and Deathwatch forces, both forces look so cool I'd be willing to stomach 40k 7th to play with them.
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would a kind anon post the imperial guard color scheme chart?

also any color recommendations for Valhallan models that will be allied to a Black Templar army?
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Who the hell is buying the battlegroup hammerblow set?

>>50849889
currently working on a drop pod and finding it exceedingly tedious to paint everything.
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How do you explain D-weapons and other high strength weapons failing their To-Wound roll?

Like, against high T and high W models, I get it, but why not Guardsmen and such?
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Any ideas on how to paint my new Skitarii? Probably the first time I don't have a backstory and such for my army.
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>>50849890
Wargames factory sci-fi troopers(I think those are still being produced).
Mutant Chronicles: Warzone starter box minis from Prince August/ebay.
Various WW2 plastics from Warlord, though giving them lasguns will be tricky because of scale difference.
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>>50849966
hit a non vital part of the target, like an ear

>>50849889
i need to finish building my start collecting eldar and guardians, i'm tempted to get more for them but i just got my made to order daemonettes and seekers today
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>>50849972
>Hotline Marsami

.... do that one
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>>50849786
Nope, Bloody Rose is still best.
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>>50849972
I love Mars-Ami, but if you want to go for a less extravagant color scheme something like Iridescent is a great, fluffy color.
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>>50849985
This guy drives up and hits you in the ear with his axe.

Wat do?
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>>50849883
Unless you have a rule stating that you can, you may never run and charge in the same turn. So you woukd have a 12" movement, and then EITHER up to a 6" run, or up to a 12" charge.

And yes, you can run even if you do not have a shooting weapon.
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>>50850011
Laugh at how goddamn ridiculous he looks til I die

and then laugh again
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>>50849972
If I painted a set of Cadian guardsmen in a Mars-ami sort of color would I get sperged on?
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>>50850011
Collect the missing pieces of my skull, I guess.
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>>50850013
>can't run and charge the same turn
Why does GW hate Maulerfiends so much? They un-FAQ's the Magma Cutters, and now I find out you can't run and charge in the same turn.
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>>50850023
If so, be a man and sperge back
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>>50849986
>>50850010
I love it too, honest, I just don't think I can do it justice. I'm fond of pinks and purples and stuff so maybe some kind of blend of Mars-ami and Chiba City Blues? I'm wondering how Skitarii look in light colors vs. dark ones. As long as I stay away from red. Or hell, what about White?

I was also considering doing gold for a lot of the metal detailing? Or is that Heresy? What colors go good with gold...green? Purple?

Doesn't Azure look like a High Elf from Fantasy?
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>>50849998
Only if you have a vaginal bleeding fetish.

Sacred Rose used to be my number pne but white is too mich of a PITA to paint. Silver just looks good. Though since on heraldry you can interchange white and silver I feel like their robes should be red and leave the face plate on the helmet white just to keep it standing put from the rest of the armour.

That said I have always liked painting red cloth over other colors so I admit a bias.
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Alright /tg/, which chapter is the manliest?
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>>50850042
Goffs
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>>50850011
Quote Fight Club?

>Son of a bitch! Right in the ear!
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>>50849972
I like Ryza
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>>50850042
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>>50850021
>>50850025
That guy's cousin comes up to you and hits you in your other ear with his axe.

Wat do?
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>>50850042
Flesh Tearers. Also Executioners.
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>>50850053
It's like a dreamsicle robot. Does it shoot popsicles?

Also, I wonder if there's a good way to make Kastelan's guns more like Megaman arm cannons?
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>>50850042
iron knights, they won feast of blades twice

>>50850058
>>50850011
laugh at how they can't kill a ws2 human easily
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So Horus Heresy is a series of 40+ books that's still missing a gigantic portion of the Heresy's events, such as everything about the war in our solar system, not to mention Terra itself?

What else is missing? Is the Dropsite Massacre complete? I'm only beginning the 3rd book but I'm told it all goes downhill in regards to coherence after the 4th?
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>>50850034
I have a similar issue with my Repentia. Yes they have fleet but GW stole their FnP and made it a one-off assault phase Act of Faith that pops during the fight phase. Sure it went to a 3+ but I have to get my T3/6++ models TO combat to make it work.
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>>50850039
I personally enjoy crimson with gold, though since you said you didn't like red, blue and purple would both work great. Black would work well too. Green isn't a traditional color with gold, but it wouldn't hurt to try it on a mini then just strip it down if it doesn't work out. I feel like olive green with a lime highlight and black wash could work well to bring out the gold.

and yes
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>>50849889
Just finished up my Raider. 1 down, 2(1 raider, 1 ravager) left to go. The sail is not glued in so I can show if it's wrecked/etc.
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>>50850058
die admiring those stupid sexy legs.
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Whats the best place -Third Party included- to get the little decorative skull bits from Devastators? Things like the little floating skull dude and the backpack hanger
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>>50850067
>Also, I wonder if there's a good way to make Kastelan's guns more like Megaman arm cannons?
Looks like you'd just have to cut off the gun barrels and magazines, drill a large hole in what's left of the end of his wrist and you're good to go.
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>>50850063
Flesh tearers ewww. Your guys geneseed is more corrupt than us normal blood angels and we already have a problem with not enough troops.
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>>50850092

I don't understand the context of the question. You can just get the bits by themselves on eBay after some struggle in auctions or for a relatively high premium on aesthetic bits. I suppose you could just google search for third parties who happen to make servo skulls, but I can't imagine there being any money in it.
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>>50849889
I'm just putting the rest of my Bloodletters together before I start painting. Not bothering with a pic since there's really no point right now. It's been slow going since I've been on mandatory 60-hour weeks due to the holidays but that's finally over now so I can actually get to work on my dudes tomorrow.
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>>50850085
Yeah, I mean, Mars is all red so I'd rather not be carbon copy.
I was considering that Blackguards option up there, but snazz it up with gold instead, with red energy? That's rather Sith sounding now that I think about.

The other thing is that, I'm not sure how this'd look on my vehicles? That's always a deciding factor.
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>>50850102

Part of the problem is codex limit. Once Tyranids om nom your homeworld and End Times hits Terra, Blood Angels will suspend Codex limits and blow up to the monstrous legion they were before.
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>>50850102
>have a problem with not enough troops

Have you tried not having most of the chapter die on Space Hulks?
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>>50850079
The whole one per game rule with faith is fucking stupid. What was wrong with the whole roll a D6 for how many Acts of Faith you can perform? That was a great system that made it so you could occasionally have a nice buff.

As for Repentia, I just got a box of 10 for fun, but I don't know how I'm going to use them. I thought it might be fun for a not competitive list where I took Bullgryn and Repentia together and the Repentia could run behind them for that sweet 3+ cover save.
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>>50850123

Dark Angels don't have a problem with it (because they break the codex limit with technicalities, obviously).
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>>50850122
>8th edition space marines merge successors into parent chapters
>legions reborn
>20 man tactical squads in 40k
yes please
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>>50850123
Hey i mean we still have some of the most successful space hulk missions ever.

>>50850122
If there is even enough of us left alive after the nids have destroyed our homeworld. Also even if they suspend codex limits the geneseed is only getting worse and less people are surviving the process and more people are losing to the black rage every single year. By the time the end times get here i fear we will fall to Khorne.
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>>50850042
Black Templars

>No fucks given for anything but crusading
>Overkill is best kill
>Manly enough to speed forward in fuckhuge tanks while a creeping barrage covers their advance
>Scouts the enemy by CHARGING THEM!
>Chosen for a top secret mission to fix the golden throne, probably due to their GIANT BALLS OF STEEL!
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>>50850109
That would be pretty nice. Throwing a gold trim onto the coat would look great as well.

Vehicles, I'm not sure on. Dunecrawlers with gold highlights and red energy would look great in my opinion. Castellans would look pretty good as well. I thought lime green would look nice earlier, but it would just look gaudy on the vehicles. If you wanted to go green, definitely use a drab.

I think Blackguard will look great on anything. With gold and red, it would look awesome for sure.
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>>50850156
>20 man tactical
i barely have enough room to field 20 tactical in 2 separate groups of 10. How the hell am i going to justify taking 40 troop choices that are just bad.
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>>50850157
Blood Angels always get so fucked in the fluff.
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>>50850166

Needs more bolters
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>>50850157

If the Black Templar can just shit their excess initiate numbers on the front lines, then so can the Blood Angels too with Death Companies. Hell it worked for Corax that one time, and kind of worked for Space Wolves the entire time with those browolves.
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>>50850133
Acts of Faith currently suffer from being watered down USRs or Chapter Tactics. The flavor of the C:WH ones were so much better for the army too.

Flipside was C:WH encouraged Immospam for max faith points by running MSUs but the concept was still decent.

I am a big fan of Repentia since they fit the army theme so well and used to look for ways to make them work in both C:WH and the WD-dex. I haven't found a real viable way to use them in a pure Sisters list. Maybe as a massive blob using a lone priest ala the new Ministorum detachment?

>>50850134
Yeah but that doesn't help Blood Angels any in that respect. Besides Dark Angels apparently foster traitor chapters via Space Hulks instead.
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>>50850202
even with the nerf to battle brothers transports (can't start in them, can still board them) you could do something silly and run a space marine detachment with a spartan (yes, it has 40k rules) and stick a repentia blob in there.

it's a rather silly way to try to make them useful since their ride costs more than they do, but hey, I'm trying to think of something here
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>>50850196
Yea but the problem with that is after the battle all the death Company that survived are usually killed.

>>50850171
but bolters aren't even that good

This is my take on the Blood angels decurion any ideas how i can improve it? Also is 2 power swords and one powerfist a good load out for a death company squad?
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>>50850161
I found these three online. I really like the first one but it seems like the gold really overshadows everything. The middle one might be really neat though, with a dark blue and dark browns to complement the gold.

And the third one looks like a White Mage.
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>>50850218
shit forgot the picture
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>>50850075
16 books in and I'm pretty sure they're only up to ~30 actual novels, give or take, plus a bunch of novellas. Not sure how far along in events they've gotten exactly but the entirety of the Battle of Terra needs to happen, and I imagine they'd do the Scouring afterwards as well.

We're in for a long ride, lad.
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>>50850218
Bolters aren't that good, but what does that have to do with Blood Angels and their successors getting shit on fluff wise and tabletop wise?
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Does anyone paint custom chapter miniatures?
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>>50850236
shit i meant to link to >>50850178 Im tired i should probably be getting some sleep
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>>50850241
My 2nd marine army was a diy.
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>>50850229
wait, since when could a dc dread take two HFs? pretty sure it's either storm bolter/HF, storm bolter/melta or melta/HF. doubling up on the fist guns would be lovely but the kit doesn't actually allow for that
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>>50850158
Can we all unanimously agree that Sigismund is best marine?
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>>50850258
it can't i kinda threw the list together in like 30 minutes to try and make something good out of it. I completely forgot to check what the death company dread uses as i dont actually use one on TT.
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>>50850245

NEEDS MORE BOLTERS
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>>50849972
You should paint them brass and green, with wooden housings for their weapons and the like.
Then give your Magos the most magnificent mustache and pipe you can think of.
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>>50850217
Which is a viable option if you want mutants in your army, but I run my Sisters army pure. Just like the God-Emperor intended.
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>>50850290
Oh my god I hadn't thought of this. I don't have the knowhow to completely Steampunk the army but jesus christ that sounds amazing. Maybe not green, but I'm down for the brass and wooden housings though.
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>>50850228
First one is nice, if a bit blinding. If you wanted to go for that, I'd say break it up with some silver and bronze, and maybe some non-metallics on the shoulders and thighs.

The middle is nice, but I think the robes are a bit dull myself. This is just personal preference, but I'd throw in some patterns on the edge to make it a bit more popping.

Third one is great. Nice color, nice patterns, enough detail without being crowded, all around wonderfully painted. If you want to stay away from red I'd recommend going for a purple shade since you seemed to enjoy that earlier.

All three are great choices. They'd all look great on vehicles as well. Personally, I think I'd go with the white.
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>>50850241
I'm gonna paint up my warband soon but I'm still kinda torn on the color scheme. Leaning more towards the second now though.
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So the Primus Medicae is supposedly getting released next week, and I'm currently on vacation in the asscrack of America, miles away from any GW store. Are there any UKbros who would do me a tremendous favour and nab one for me? I would pay you for your trouble.
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>>50850306
Hm. I've heard white is a bitch to paint though? I've never done white before. And I'd have to free-hand that red detail. So knowing me I'd probably just do the edges red (or whatever) and call it a day. So white cloth, gold metals, and whatever color detailing. Maybe purple.

Purple white and gold sounds like royal colors, honestly.

Also, the first one kind of looks like Custodes, with a black skirt sort of thing. I think that's why it bothers me? I'll keep it in mind. And the second one has nice wood/detailing but the robe part is a little bland. Maybe it's different from the back?
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>>50850241
Yes
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>>50850241
Like for commissions? Or do you mean do people in general come up with their own color scheme? I know I painted Guard my own pattern for everything. I like having something that feels like mine.
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>>50850365
Daaaamn son. Got any closeups?
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>>50850346
>Asscrack of 'murrica miles away from a GW store

hey you must be down the street from me!
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To whatever shit on here who said to mix metallic paints with superglue to get more pigment for a better effect, you're a dick.
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>>50850346
rebuy from chinese recasters
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Only a couple on my phone
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>>50850420
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>>50850434
They're pretty good anon.
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>>50850352
White can be a bitch. It takes a lot of layers to get a decent coat, and other colors cover it up ridiculously easily. Cleaning it up sucks, and freehanding will only exaggerate the problems. Plus, getting a true white shade of white sucks ass. Warhammer TV did have some good white tutorials in one of their 30k videos, they used Rakarth flesh and got a great white color. If you want a similar contrast minus most of the bullshit, I'd say use a light grey. As for freehanding details, I'm with you that it sucks. I'd say try it on a mini or two and see if it's too bad to cover the whole army with. If it is, just go for a few milimeters of purple or gold on the edge.
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>>50850420
You can clean it up by mixing some ammonia and bleach together in a cup.
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>>50850385
Termie squad/captain wip. Can't get photo to turn
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>>50850274
>>50850241
>>50850365
>>50850385
>>50850434

Are you two long lost battle brothers? This is too coincidental. If this works for you, then it can work for me too!

Come, my long lost weeaboo battle brother! Post your proud nippon ichi legion!
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>>50850420
youre welcome
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>>50850442
Thanks bro

>>50850458
That is one kawaii rhino...
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>>50850452
I found the whole army after a bit of googling. I think I'm kind of a fan, but with less grey metallics probably. More gaudiness.

And yeah, I'll have to look up some tutorials I bet. Maybe a more subdued grey-white would be better? Not sure.

And I guess I'm making a snow world? Which would be the only reason to have white robes. That's not a bad start for a story. And basing them would be neat. Ice effects!
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Should I get two piranhas, a third broadside, or another devilfish for my tau?
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>>50850339
>Not using piranha
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>>50850479

DESSHO????
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Also, would anyone be upset with me making my Vanguards with the hooded helmets rather than the helmeted ones? They just look cooler. I don't plan on running a lot of rangers in my army anyway.
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>>50850481

>replace white with stormhost silver
>crap khorne blood here and there after washing the models in shiny chrome
>call it a day

actually I might just take that for myself
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>>50850492
I wish I had your skill at transfers and I still hate you
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>>50850494
Make sure it's clear to the opponent. If you don't actually run any rangers it's fine for sure, but if at some point you decide to try war convocation it can definitely cause some confusion. That said the guns are kind of a dead giveaway so as long as you keep the guns WYSIWYG it should be fine.
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>>50850514
Yeah of course. I don't plan on doing any heavy conversion really. I thought about snipping the barrel bit off of the Radium Carbines so they look a little less goofy, but I'm not sure yet. It's not like I get extra carbines.
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>>50850492
>tau with anime girl pinup art ww2 style
fund it
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>>50850481
Subduing it is definitely your best option. More opportunity to highlight, more coverage, less coats.

And I agree that that army is a bit too metallic. Using some black or white, particularly on those servos, would help make it a bit less gaudy for sure. I'd also universally recommend painting helmets white, because metal on metal just looks awful.

And snow bases are tons of fun! It can be a bit hard to get them looking unique, but when you get that right zone it always looks fantastic. Though, there are plenty of worlds that would be fine with white, like deserts where it keeps out the heat, and in general, as the imperium is rarely concerned with camoflauge.
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>>50850527

I got you brah
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>>50850397
Pretty much, yeah.
>>50850421
Reconsider yourself my man
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>>50850548

If I can find Errant Knights on eBay for $50-$60 a pop. then you can pick up your Fugly Medicae on eBay in the near future.
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>>50850537
nice
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>tfw bought the KdK codex
>realize I'd probably be better off with the CSM book and Traitor legions as IW since I was going to make them IW/MyDudes Warband that were IW descended
Sigh. At least the tables and Khorne stuff are cool.

But I bet that I'd be better off with my Maulerfiends and dudes in an IW army. They'd probably be slightly worse at assault, but man, I love Maulerfiends and the Iron Warriors, and since they can't take Khorne stuff anymore, I dunno.

Just thought I'd let out some frsutration/thoughts.

Please cheer me up anons. What do I lose out/gain from going KdK?
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>>50850530
So a subdued bluewhite or maybe just a light gray. Purple detailing, gold/brass trim and woodenish/dark brown weapons. Still might go with the red energy too? Or would that be a bit too jarring? Or maybe that's good.

>>50850571
Good fuckin luck, jesus christ. Those'll get snapped up in an instant.
>inb4 10 day auction starting at .99c with a 100 dollar reserve
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>>50850048
he's not wrong
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>thinking this fat character is going to be hard to find
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>>50850578

ONLY TIME AND MONEY
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>>50850578
>iwn be an 'Eavy Metal painter
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>>50850581
Red energy would work. Bright red would be jarring, but the contrast could be nice. Dark red would be a bit less contrast, though not as defined. This is really personal preference. Though, with red energy, it might start to get a little busy with the colors. You might want to just use purple, or a purpler shade of burgundy to maintain the purple theme.
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>>50850590
Practice and patience, anon.

also airbrushes, access to a full workshop of tools, a complete array of colors, and working 9-5 just painting. but mostly practice and painting.
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>>50850578
>Buying a codex without checking the FREE PDF of OP.

Well... you deserved it.
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>>50850589
no pls anon why
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>>50850634
At least I have chicken.

And pictures inna book.
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>>50850608
Turns out this is Metalica's paint scheme. The white and the red. That's actually pretty neat. Maybe I can find a guide somewhere to help me, then.
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>>50850346
Just get your local redshirt to put one aside for you or something
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>>50850675
>getting a GW employee to do anything for a customer
You'd have greater luck convincing the company to lower their prices, haw
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>>50850662
Nice! Having a bit of fluff behind it will be good, though writing your own fluff on your army is always fun.

Also, found this guide on painting their cloaks from Warhammer TV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIDSZ4xRZ4U Should be helpful, Duncan's always great.
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So as Death Guard is there any point in running Plague Marines, I mean normal Marines are cheaper, get all the same USR and can carry anti-tank weapons without having to snap fire, I mean sure you get the plague knife but thats only useful for MC hunting
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>>50850700
last I checked heavy weapons are great at mc hunting

uh you take plague marines if you need a squad of 5 carrying two special weapons
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>>50849998
Clearly best.
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>>50850675
had a friend tell a redshirt he would pay triple the price for the limited T-sons dice a day early so he could get them for a mutual friend and he was denied
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Do Space Marines have any sort of handheld riot shield available? Ideally an energy barrier projector of some persuasion?
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>>50850700
maxed out plague colony giving all enemies in 7inches -1T,WS,I
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>don't play warhammer
>don't paint minis
>don't know most fluff
>been in this thread for 2 hours
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>>50850721

Stormshields?
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>>50850721
30k ones have boarding shields. I'm not aware of rules for such an item in 40k.
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>>50849889
old post but I'm working on drones that seem as if they're in motion, weaving between cover.

this one looked weird and has been changed a lot since, but I don't have a camera at all right now.
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>>50850733
you're overqualified to discuss rules then
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>>50850745
why is it glued to that mineral deposit?
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>>50850721
Combat Shields/Thunder Shields would be the equivalent, but space marines would never be deployed for a simple riot control that a riot shield would be.

Their shoulder pauldron in the fluff is used to deflect incoming fire, but that's absurd to really think about.
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>>50849752

Why does that Stealer Cult picture look like a Dark Eldar character?
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>>50850753
blu-tacked, I used wire now.

it's meant to resemble weathered columnar basalt in outcrop.

have some of the first fire warriors wip too for the hell of it.
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>>50849867
Sexecution Force, you mean. Especially the brother/sister pair from Nemesis.
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>Curze is a Demon Primarch
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>>50850763
>>50850736
>>50850741
Thanks. I'm trying to fluff out some Tortoise Formation In Space lads but I wasn't sure what the options were on that. Love me some sword&board but I'm not super familiar with what all there is.
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>Fall of Cadia
>Curze is the true Prophet of the 8th
Curze rules when?
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Is there anyway to get a Ecllesiarchy Battle Conclave to deploy in this ?
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>>50850823
fluff-wise there should totally be some chapters that still do that, even is boarding shields have generally fallen by the wayside.
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>>50850833
have in the same force on the tabletop? yes
start the game inside of? No
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>>50850821
>>50850831
>Primarch so absolutely ass-ravaged by realizong his ideals were shit he holes up in the middle of nowhere
>BTFO by a mere mortal
>one of two primarchs to actively make his legion worse after being found

How does it feel to know that Curze was the worst thing to happen to the 8th? He lacks the value to be brought back as a daemon prince, Krieg Acerbus, Talos, Malcharion, Zho Sahaal, and Sevatar all would have made better leaders of the 8th than him.
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>>50850777
your edge highlighting is way too thick and inconsistent, but I like the color scheme.
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>>50850873
What would you expect from a chronic lone wolf? Nothing about his makeup or upbringing suggests he'd be an effective leader of men.
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Would Word Bearers with more of a Hindu/South Asian rather than Semitic Pagan/Mesopotamian flavor be cool?
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>>50850873
That is why I love his character.
I like he is a loser.
I bet you feel silly trying to trigger me now Mr. bad ass troll
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>>50850891
Fuck yeah dude.
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>>50850910
>Asks a question
>Not a yes or no question
>Fuck yeah dude
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>>50850877
Thankyou. I have been working on my edge highlighting skills with models that don't matter so much so that I can go over these and make them better. It's definitely something I find difficult, even with the "angled brush dragged along the edge" technique.
>>50850891
I think that's fucking amazing sounding and need to see it asap.
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>>50850891
KALI MA KALI MA KALI MA KALI MA
yes. also aztec/mayan would be cool
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>>50850891
Depends.I always imagined the actual reason word bearers are less esoteric (as opposed to lazy writing) is because they are religion without a lot of the mystery. They are worship without faith, because they already know the gods are real and reward worship.

So the question is, would this pallet swap mean anything? would this chapter act on its beliefs in a way that resembles actual belief?
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>>50850905
Nah, I'm just counter shitposting in response to the "Daemon Curze" shitposts that have popped up of late

Besides, I got my (you)s
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>>50850949

You are doing all of us a favor!
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>>50850949
>MFW I am the only person spamming Curze stuff every day
Thanks for the (you)s my dude
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Seriously how the shit do the transports in imperial agents work, this is so confusing with all these specific factions..

The inquisitorial detachment in particular mashes together a combination of units with the inquisitorial faction, the astra telepathica faction, and the adepta sororitas faction into one unit. Is there anything that actually defines what faction the new unit has?

Or what transport choices it can take?

The only thing that makes sense to me is that everything basically just becomes the acolyte unit, which has the inquisitorial faction and can take its own set of dedicated transports... (many of which have their own not-inquisitorial faction....)

Who WROTE this...? I want to like it, but damn.
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>>50850922
>>50850891
make a fucking temple of doom chaos squad
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Whats the best way to boost reserve rolls for GSC ? For 80pts a Astra Militarum CCS w/ Officer of the Fleet?
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>>50851014
My assumption is that whole mess just counts as the acolyte unit with the inquisitorial faction and you buy a transport with the inquisitorial faction that can hold it.
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Any advice on how to make a good mechanized Chaos Space Marine list? MSU in rhinos? ObSec Black Legion Land Raiders? Squadrons of Iron Warrior Vindicators?
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>>50851113
Doesnt help, they are not battle brothers.
Just take Cult Insurrection detachment.
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>>50849972
Hotline Mars-ami
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>>50851014
I'd say it counts as all the factions present in the unit. The FAQ implies this, but it's not outright stated as fact.
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>>50849972
Either "Best Job I Ever Had" or "Hotline Mars-Ami" In terms of how it'd look on the tabletop though, I think Blackguard could look quite good for a relative minimum of effort
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>>50850420
Lost it, gr8 post. Still ,if no pics, its a humorous ruse.
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thought you guys might like this podcast its about working with resin best you can.

http://worldsendradio.com/?p=108
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Hey guys I want to start an army but I don't know where to start. The two main ones I'm into are deathwatch and grey knights, which one would you recommend and what specific minis should I get?
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>>50851159
There's an FAQ?
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>>50850662
One of the old warhammer visions had a how to paint metallica section that was pretty in-depth.
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>>50850063

>yfw you've been told to save the civilians and not eat them
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>>50851207
Yes.
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who's better, grey knights brotherhood champion or the emperor's champion?
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>>50851214
Ammm, I stupid? I do not see an imperial agents FAQ.
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>>50851272
Q: If a unit consists of more than one Faction, what Faction
does the unit count as when targeted by a unit with a Preferred
Enemy or Hatred ability that affects one of the Factions in
that unit?
A: They count as having all the Factions of the models in
the unit.

Is what I'm talking about. It doesn't address the issue directly but it's close enough to go on until we get a better answer.
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>>50851282
That's interesting precedent.
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>>50850326
>Leaning more towards the second now though.
hate to be a naysayer, but black and red is not really a very original combination.
My first DIY chapter had the same colors basically, except instead of silver I painted the trims white.

If you don't mind not being a special snowflake, just do what you want, but don't be surprised if your army will be mistaken for other stuff.
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CSM should be able to join daemon units and vice versa.
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So I spent over an hour or two on MS Paint on this.

>the things you do when you can't sleep

R8? I know its sloppy but its paint and I'm shitty at mouse-drawing.
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>>50851306
It'd be nice, but you'd need to address daemonic instability.
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>>50850365
If Flesh Tearers, Imperials and Crimson Fists had a baby it would look like your army.
That means I approve. Looking sharp.
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>>50851308
i think your good with MS paint, anon-chan.
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>>50851319
It's a recolor, I didn't make the original. Before people start thinking things.
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>>50851308
I don't like the color scheme, the yellow and grey don't really go together.
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>>50851330
It's technically supposed to be gold? And obviously I'm not gonna highlight on MS Paint. I was already dumb for doing this at all really.
Supposed to be
Light Grey cloth
Dark Gold/Brass metals
Wooden detailing on weapons
Probably some kind of purpley energy (which I didn't mess with on the picture)
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>>50850122
>Once end times hits Terra
>Blood Angels will suspend codex limits
Might be a bit late for that, fella. Inducting a SM takes years, if you have a sufficient geneseed stock, and then you have warp travel time (and the fact that they are curently way below full capacity).
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>>50851326
i rescind my appreciation for your painting skills
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>>50851014
also in the BRB it says that a dedicated transport gets the faction and role of whoever bought it.
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>>50851354
:(
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>>50851201
>Hey guys I want to start an army but I don't know where to start.
Then you should keep looking.
If you don't actually want to work on something and are just bored with what you have you could take a peek at other games even.

A smaller skirmish game would provide the opportunity to paint a handful of miniatures that are completely different and even play a quicker game from time to time.
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>>50851342
Still wouldn't be a very appealing color scheme, I'd swap out the gold for a dark, warm color.
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>>50851366
Well keep in mind this is the armory bits on the Skitarii, so it's going to be a metallic of some kind.
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>>50850492
Please tell me you've got the other side of the Dakimakura on the Rhino's underside.
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>>50851369
You can do a metallic red and it would look pretty good. You can really do a metallic any dark color and it would look better friend. Right now it just looks ghetto as fuck.
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>>50850920
It's definitely a skill that needs practice, but the biggest part is not overloading your brush and making sure your paints are thin, but not runny.
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>>50849867
Now i need ro make a force in traditional black but opticas and details colour coded like the Ginyu force.
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>>50851403
Thanks anon. I'll keep working on it.
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>>50850011
It can barely reach my calf.
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>>50849752
Give me one reason why I should start doing this
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>>50849889
I always post these guys but still working on my Rogue Trader dynasty.
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>>50851316
Daemons are Fearless by default, CD have daemonic instability as a special rule: If they lose combat, the unit takes a morale test and takes wounds equal to how much they failed by, assignable only to models with DI. Double ones, return all models with DI back to the unit.

Done.
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>>50851455
Really easy way to make friends and have fun?
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>>50851455
Something to obsess over and keep yourself busy with when the rest of your life is going to shit.
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>tfw want to run GSC in Chimeras
>tfw it's cheaper to buy the Cadians with upgrade sprue and chimera package than the regular Hybrids with a Chimera

I wish they made that package with Hybrid models too, instead of just bald cadians.
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R8 my paint job dudes
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>>50851518
Needs more washes. The flesh is too clean.
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>>50851500
a single pack of hybrids should have enough bits to just bash those into some though.
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>>50851518
Wouldmeltaitsfaceoff/5. Very nice!
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>>50851455

If you don't want to it's really, really not worth doing.
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>>50850042
>>50850054
This anon's right
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>>50851523
Thanks for feedback, to be honest, I think there is something more terrifying about it's skin being quite "okay" looking.
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>>50851528

No, I mean, using the Armoured Claw box is cheaper than buying the Hybrids and a chimera, but I prefer the hybrids models over the Armoured Claw cadians.
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>>50851523
Also like this dude
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>>50849786
>wearing underpants on your head.
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>>50851562
Oh, gotcha
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>>50850326
I'd go for the left and I'm not saying that because I use the same colour scheme for my marines. Plus gold is for winners.
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Speaking of GSC actually, how's this for my first list?

I want to expand into collecting both GSC and Nids eventually.
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>>50850053
I like that their face-screens look like their operator had to scrape them clean with a credit card.
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>>50851603
looks fine enough, though I'd personally replace one of the battle tanks with some more hybrids or a trio of sentinels because chickenwalkers are the best
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>>50851603
It's bad. Acolytes/Metamorphs attacking from Cult Ambush are the best thing in GSC, especially in a Subterranean Uprising formation.
I'd start with a Cult Insurrection Detachment, you could combine a Neophyte Cavalcade if you want vehicles with a Subterranean Uprising.
And I wouldn't take a CAD in lower point games, even in higher ones it's main point is adding more HQs.
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>>50851603
Don't take sponsons on battle tanks.
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>>50850537
>No blue skinned kawaii girl

>Shamefur dispray
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Are the old tau fire warriors worth it? Friend of mine has an unopened box of them for 15$, good deal?
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>>50851535
Thanks my dude :)
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>>50851665
They don't come with as much customization, but they're basically the same models.
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>>50851665
Pretty much the same models, and thats pretty good for some firewarriors. I'd do it.
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>>50851463
This has my approval. Consider a loot-dragging gretchin or something for added awesome.
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>>50851665
No they are Tau
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>>50850228

.. Album Magos. If I ever stray from Bloody Magpies to the Skitarii, this will be the color scheme.
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>>50851603
I'd aim for something like this. Maybe take a unit from SU to kit out the Neophytes/the Leman Russ.
At larger points you can add the First Curse, another Subterranean Uprising with MSU, or even CADs to gain more Magi/Patriarchs.
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Quiet night.
Nurgle fag from above
This is my beloved Asterion Moloc.
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>>50851566
"Oha i got a huge sword"
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>>50849964
I still wanna know who the fuck is buying the Battlegroup Hammerblow set
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What should perform better in a DG army?
2x10 csm 2x plas PF sergeant
or
2×5 csm 1xplas PF sergeant and 1x5 Havok 4xplas.
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>>50852052

Why not take heavy weapons? You're DG, you have relentless on everything.
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Legion of the Damned is the most metal army in 40k.
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>>50852023
No idea. Its a nice, okayish and balanced army thou.
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>>50852068
You can only get a single heavy on "tacs" and I don't have any heavy wepons either just a shitloads of plasma and bolters
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>>50852077
See it looks like a balanced army but if you buy all those things seperate its still the same price as buying the set and usually they are really good at making you a deal when you buy a huge amount of models in a set.
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>>50852100

I mean on your havocs. Autocannon havocs fuck things up.
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>>50852068
Gets hot and rapid fire meshes well with fnp and Relentless too
>>
End of thread reminder that Curze is a Demon Primarch and he is the real prophet of the 8th who will appear with the Fall of Cadia.
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>>50852075
I mean i think if you take any picture from the legion of the damned concept art you can probably get a good metal album cover. also if the legion of the damned show up on cadia and BTFO of abaddon ill kek all the way home.
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>>50852052
the second option

More squads is almost always better than less. But I'd still probably want larger units. On the havocs especially.
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>>50852105
They havoks are just a way to use my plasma, personally i prefer spending my HS slots on nuglebliterators.

I might get to AC havoks later on, its just a pain in the ass to scour the net for loose Autocannons.
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>>50852137

Take a heavy bolter, cut the muzzle off, replace with autocannon barrel from IG heavy weapon teams.
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>>50852143
or just buy them from fw since they are all over 30k
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>>50852161
Resin
A
Shit
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>>50852075
Sorry chief, but there's an army that already has that title.
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>>50851308
The glow effect on the mouthpiece is fucking ingenious.
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>>50852075

But that's not Sisters
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What would be the best way to make the evidence of an invisible hand behind Tau success more visible?
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>>50849998
My nigga. No contest at all.
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>>50849889
I'm getting kind of an Action Man/Dr. X vibe from them. Love it, bit the greens and faces could use a wash.
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Maybe you guys can help me.

I have both sets of HH plastics that I want to make Night Lords that can be used as both CSM and Legion. I've also bought a Raptor and CSM box for bits and a pair of Drop Pods to convert into Dread Claws. The problem is that I just don't know how I should build my army. Either of them. Like, I have pic related that I want to use as a Lord/Praetor, but that's about it.

I feel like I don't want to assemble anything because I'm not sure. I want to use a lot of LC because that's how I see Night Lords, but things like LC terminators/Chosen aren't good in 40k.

>just use HH for 40k

I want to mix it up sometimes, and I like the new TL stuff.
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>>50852450
have the emperor come back to life having been hidden within tau society by the etherials. the dead guy on the throne is malcador. the emperor sought out and guided the tau because they arent psykers and are immune to chaos, the emperor created them for this.

then stick the emperor in some massive mech the size of a planet, and have him lead a crusade to reclaim the imperium, and then destroy chaos.

i basically just gave you the plot of what 9th edition 40k (age of emperor) will become. its all too obvious really
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>>50850040

I feel the same way. Pic related has been my color scheme for as long as I've been playing them, though I've recently been typing with SR colors and might use some red armor scattered throughout the army. Maybe once I figure out a fluff reason.
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>>50849899
But anon...
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>>50852494
This is heresy on so many levels.
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>>50852508
the greater good is literally the imperial truth. it all makes sense. once horus turned the emperor figured that humanity was shit so he needed a back up plan, so he a new highly intelligent race completely devoid of warp-taint.
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When do you think Sisters will get regular access to Mega Bolters, Inferno Canons, and Thermal Canons?
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>>50850302
Green compliments wood and brass really nicely though.
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>>50850823
If you want to go all-shields without going Unbound, then Deathwatch is for you. Doubly so for the "riot shield" aesthetic as the storm shields in the Kill-Team box are much taller than the ones Vanguard Veterans or non-Sergeant Terminators get. You can pair them with a ranged weapon or mêlée weapon according to your preference.
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>>50852470
Definitely, batch painting a box of 10 neophytes at the moment so they're just base coated. I'll probably experiment with the Webber fluid color.

It should look less cartoony after highlights and washes
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>>50852523
>Highly intelligent
>are slaves to a group of their own people
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>>50852586

It's a caste system. Lots of civilizations have them.
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>>50849752
What do we think? I'm new to eldar and made this list with the old Elder battleforce and a farseer that I picked up yesterday.
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How many complaints would I get if I built different lists using my Black Legion models using different legions? Like, one list using the BL rules, one using the DG rules, one using the NL rules etc.
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>>50852586
their lifespan is like 4 years or someshit, they are just a hivemind. a hivemind that the emperor has control of. they are highly intelligent because their technology is superior to everybody, because that was the emperors plan. once he realized that mars betrayed him he knew he needed to created a highly intelligent race to outmatch their technology.

the tau are basically just the emperors tyranids. a hivemind he created to destroy evil.
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>>50850821
>>50850831
>Curze's death is one of the most poignant acts of the Horus Heresy
>It gets rendered completely irrelevant so GW can sell another giant £80 action figure

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Every single one of these campaign books has been complete and utter shit and I despise GW for their awful, hamfisted attempts and moving the fluff forwards.
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>>50852636

if they're not painted, no one can tell
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>>50852642

>Curze's death is one of the most poignant acts of the Horus Heresy

...it really isn't though.

Manus' death? Sanguinius' death? Horus'? Yeah, those are poignant. Curze was killed by a total nobody basically offscreen.
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>>50852652

reeeeee grey marines get out
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>>50852658
curze was a nobody so its fitting
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>>50852666

Chill, satanon. They're painted with black spray primer.
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>>50852688

The Really Fucking Black Legion.
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>>50849752
Genestealer cults should've been a pretty good opportunity to introduce some nice cheesecake models, no? Some sweet´and sleek athletics grills with xeno enhancements?
Why only alien truck drivers? :<
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>>50850484
What do you currently have?
I suggest some remora drones
Or a barracuda AX-5-2
FW flyers are actually usable for Tau since both GW flyers are the epitome of trash
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>>50852765
Because the 40k setting doesnt need any damn cheese cake
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Does anyone have The Gothic and the Eldritch? Can't seem to find it anywhere
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>>50852765
because 3rd party can do the cheesecake shit just fine, we don't need official models like that in the hands of all the neckbeards who will no doubt play the army just to use those.
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>>50852765
Why train a female to battle when she could bear little hybrids until she is fed to the Purestrains?
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>>50852765
>Why only alien truck drivers?
women are being kept barefoot and pregnant by the patriarchy
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>>50852847
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>>50850058
METAL GEAR
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>>50852847
kek
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>>50852884
What the fuck Slaanesh
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>>50850537
i think im gonna vomit
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I've got a thing for dreadnoughts atm, they are my favourite model and I love the idea of a close combat dreadnought getting stormraven'd in with my terminators and smashing face.

Unfortunately I can't see any way to make a cc dreadnought work or be viable for grey knights in 7th, any ideas?
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>>50851734
which program/site is the pic made in/on?
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>>50852923
>every thread

Why don't people read the op?
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>>50852931
>thinking people can read
From the average level of reading comprehension shown in discussions on this board, you should know this by know.
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Is there any reason not to upgrade the Reaper AC on a chaos Hellblade? 6 flying 7/4 TL rending shots for 115 points seems pretty good, even with 10s all around.
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>>50852931
>>50852936
I'm half convinced it's a meme invented to troll people who get upset about spoon feeding.

/tg/ being the easiest board to troll it always gets a few (you)s
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>>50852936
I clicked on it and it didn't load ...
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>>50852884
What I find hilarious is that they added two tits at the top of it's "head" to simulate eyes.
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>>50852936

True. Hell, people don't even play the game. They just bitch about it.

>>50852949

Very possible.
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>>50852884
What this pic doesn't show you is the penis tail and the sculpted vagoo on the lady laying on the ground
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>>50852494
>Immune to chaos
Guess you didn't see the crisis suit chaos spawn.
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>>50852977
non-canon
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>>50852988
In a codex>You
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>>50852765

You'll have to petition wargames exclusive for that one.
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>>50852792
I didn't even know it existed.

Hope you'll get an answer, Goodwin makes extraordinary concept art.
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i've run a list similar to this about 2 times now, and eked out victory on the back of these fire warrior squads decimating thing with mass firepower, thought id share it, ask for some C&C
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>>50852998
I do hope so,though alternatively as a 'consolation prize' i'd love a list of scrapped minis,if anyone knows of such a thing
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>>50852642
>Cruze
>anything else than an autistic edgelord
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>>50853023

>any primarch
>anything but an autistic edgelord

At least Curze wasn't afraid of showing his power level
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Hey /tg/ should I pick up a knight or Magnus for my CSM army?
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>>50853078

What if we put Magnus into a Knight?
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>>50853078
are you playing Thousand sons?
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>>50853113
Death guard.

I hear Magnus is more powerful?
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>>50853122
Well yea but why would a sorcerer of tzeentch work with nurgle?
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>>50853113
Sort of I have all the 1k sons models I wanted to slot into my Alpha Legion list. Only to find out that they are just as garbage as they were with the base codex. I want to bring my army up a notch to stand a chance in the local tau filled meta.
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>>50851463
love it.

I have a rogue trader themed army I'm working on, too. Sadly, the only photo I have on me at the moment is a WIP of the boarding team.
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>>50853158
i recommend a knight in that case as i believe fluff before strength and the knight should be good enough to give you the kick you need against the tau.
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If stormsurges and ripetides had a limit to how many you could take in a list would that make them less annoying/OP. I ask this because it seems people dont care about one stormsurge or ripetide but multiples is where people draw the line.
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See Geedubs? Female Space Marines aren't so hard.
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>>50853122
>>50853131

You literally can't use Magnus with a Death Guard army. Or at least, if you want to use the Death Guard rules, everything in your army has to have Mark of Nurgle.
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>>50853203
s2 t1 I1
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>>50853246
>weaker than Orks
That's an insult to women I can't abide, not even women are as weak as Ork boyz.
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>>50853122
Nice shitposting, very subtle. Have a (you).
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>>50853255
they are dumber though
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If I'm doing a 1000 point CAD of Death Guard, should I take Plague Marines over Regular ones?
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>>50853338
Regular, they're the same but cheaper.

>>50853255
>>50853318
Now I think of it, what's the name of that in character propaganda website that GW does?
They did a pretty memetastic article on guardsmen beating up Orks in melee.
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>>50853338
No. Also why CAD?
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>>50853338

Nope. Mark of Nurgle CSM are basically just Plague Marines sans poisoned melee attacks, with the bonus that you can put heavy weapons in them too and take advantage of relentless (AUTOCANNONS ON THE HOOF) and are cheaper than plague marines.
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Is this list legal? trying to build a gross Genestealer summoning list for an upcoming game.
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>>50853351
Our club got a ton of new players recently so we're doing an escalation league, starting with a CAD. I'm using it as an opportunity to branch into chaos.
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>>50853356
If playing by ITC rules it isn't iirc. Otherwise it is, but it's not really synergistic. Try going for a Cult Insurrection Detachment + 2 CADs with min Acolytes and 2-2 Magi each.
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>>50853356
noticed I forgot to gear the first curse, so total points are not at 1810.
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>>50853411
>ITC
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>>50853411
nice that would be better.
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So what's with the Fall of Cadia teaser thing?
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Armor penetration is changed to reducing armor saves instead of ignoring them.

An ap3 value adds 3 to the target roll for a successful save.

So an ap3 weapon hitting a 3+ save is only ignored on a 6 plus roll.

Similarly, an ap1 weapon, basically the equivalent of ap6 in the old system, the weakest AP, hitting an armor with a 2+ save is only ignored on a three plus roll.
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>>50852792
>Does anyone have The Gothic and the Eldritch?
I have the book. The paper version.
Would be tricky to scan it cause there are transparent pages in there with sketches overlayed on other sketches iirc.
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>>50853479
Would need to massively reevaluate weapon AP's. The issue with save modifiers is that they utterly trivialize good armor..
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>>50853479

AoS does it better.
-1/-2/-3 modifier to save.
Complete overhaul of amount of attacks each unit can deal out.
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>>50853349
>Orks are a melee race!
>I2
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new thread

>>50853609

>>50853609

>>50853609
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>>50853501
That's so cool man, would you mind at least,if you are not intent on a more comprehensive scan because it's too much of a hassle, taking some pics of the Nids,pretty please?
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>>50850235

41 novels, most recent being The Master of Mankind about the Emperor. Not much backstory, but the fighting in the Webway beneath the Palace is a bitch.

Some of them are just fucking amazeballs. Others you can skip because they are on parallel tracks of action.

A Thousand Sons, Prospero Burns, Unremembered Empire, and Angels of Caliban are my favorites of the later books.

Angels of Caliban in particular pulls back some of the mysteries regarding the First Legion's origins on Terra. The Six Hosts of the Angels of Death, not even calling themselves the First Legion. "Why would we call ourselves the First except to differentiate ourselves from a Second?" Also, we have the names of all six Wings now. Death, Raven, Iron, Storm, Fire, and Dread. The Dreadwing scene in Chapter Three is worth your time.

Me, I was Dark Angels in 1987 but jumped ship to the Wolves because I was too lazy to repaint my black Angels green in 1989 with that first retcon.
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Speaking of Genestealer cults I was looking at my competitve list and was thinking : I generally run the first curse formation ( alongside two subterranean uprisings brood cycle and Lord of the cult for a magus)


Im starting to second guess this. If I take out the 20 unit of Genestealers with 10 scythes I can generally pump up the hybrid metamorphs to 53 across six squads all with cult icon and all with claws so WS 5 S6 and 2 units of 6 abberrants with Power Hammers

That seems WAY more useful than the first curse, anyone have any experience running that?
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>>50853625
I absolutely would, but I'm at my parent's house atm visiting for christmas.

I can take some pictures when I'm back though.
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How does the nest of mechaserpents work? It says two attacks go first. Does this mean you can attack with power fists first?
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>>50853850
Cool, thanks a lot
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>>50853854
As written, yes, though you don't *Hit First*, you just *Make* the PF attacks first, at I1 and the rest of the attacks after.
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>>50853854
Two first tentacle attacks immobilize the targets arm and legs, then the rest of them go Japanese on the targets ass (and other orifices)
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>>50849786
Martyred lady WAS best order.
Since the Order of the Fiery Heart is best order.
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>>50850831
>implying it won't be Decimus or Sevatar
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>>50850922
Word Bearers or Thousand Sons are the best Legions to do Aztecs, surprisingly.

Their religious beliefs, dualistic nature, and extreme fatalism and reliance on divination and sorcery put them more in the court of Undivided/Tzeentch worship, rather than straight Khorne, as well as their reliance upon deception and The Ruse in combat.

The Chaos God they'd be the least like to worship is Nurgle, surprisingly. Their extreme hygienic practices (when not covering themselves in blood to please the gods) and their general lack of society-wide fear means they'd realistically not turn to Nurgle voluntarily.
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>>50853691
Competitive GSC shouldn't be running squads of more than 5 metamorphs or bothering with icons or aberrants (that you pay points for anyway, see below).

First Curse can work but I wouldn't waste points on scything talons. If you take it out, put those points towards a CAD or two with another 2-3 Magi and some bare Acolyte squads for tax. Focus on summoning hundreds of points worth of free units with all upgrades that arrive by Cult Ambush all game long.
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Anyone has the December white dwarf? I am looking for the painting eavy metal tips to paint Thousand Sons.

Unfortunately the only store that gets White dwarf didnt got it.
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>>50852913
Gotta go to a new chapter, homey. GK won't cut it for dreadnoughts.
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>>50852792
Saw it on ebay once, but the price got a little too high for my taste. Only art books I got are Emperor's Might and Emperor's Will.
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>>50852913
Get a leviathan dread.
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>>50849972
We need a safari skitarii scheme
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