/swg/: Heartbreaker Edition

>>50847129
>spoiler

I get all my news from 4chan

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being so long out, she isnt "Alive" until she wake up, even if stabilized.
Could be a vegetable with a heartbeat...

I just want to say that the Rancor Pit Saga conversions are really well done.

I wish people would play more D6 SW.

>>50847197

We must trust in the Force, anon.

Anyway, what do my fellow Armada players think of the Imp Light Cruiser? I think it looks pretty good as a long range support gunboat, as long as it can keep it's broadsides aimed right.

>>50847197
Ten minutes without breathing before they landed.

She's dead, Jim.

>>50847303
Armada fag here. Im not a huge fan of it, because it doesn't seem to be able to meet the needed line between anti-ship and anti-fighter that i need it to.

I just want the gen 2 fighters to come out tbqh, cant wait for lambda C&C ship

>>50847659

I gotta say that Relay and long range comms will make for stupidly long range fighter activations. And I love it

>>50847489
Sauce on that

>>50847903
She might be alive, but initial reports (which may be inaccurate) say she suffered massive cardiac arrest and that she wasn't breathing for an extended amount of time.

It doesn't take more than a few minutes without oxygen before your brain becomes irreparably damaged. She's nowhere near out of the woods yet.

>>50847303
It feels like a decent filler ship.

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>>50847939

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Is this guy a sith or a dark jedi?

>>50848256
He's a whiny bitch who knows a few dark side tricks.

>>50848256
We don't know. If nobody remembers Jedi they probably don't remember the Sith. So he's technically neither since no one knows of either order any more.

My vote is for whiny limpdicked prick.

>>50847939
If that was 10 minutes without CPR. If those minutes she was under assisted breathing it's a different story.
Given that she was on an airplane, she likely was getting that assistant.

Not saying she's fine, but she's got much better chances than someone who was without aid and stopped breathing for an extended period of time.

>>50848314
People know of this orders they just don't know much about them.
There is a difference.

>>50848401
I assumed that people forgot about the Jedi and Sith since neither Rey or Finn had ever heard of them except in legends, particularly since the Force had also fallen out of public eye.

Read the OP, by the by. If we want to talk movie trivia we need to go to /tv/.

The rule of two was a mistake

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>>50848462
>Literal, non-meme Baneposting

>>50848256
Technically a dark Jedi for now but we'll know more once we learn more about Snoke

>>50847489
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OKAY ASSHOLES, CARRIE ISN"T DEAD EVEN IF HER HEART STOPPED WHAT DOES CPR STAND FOR? CARDIO-PULMONARY RESUSCITATION, EVEN IF SHE WASN"T BREATHING SOMEONE WAS BREATHING FOR HER, IT WAS REPORTED THAT SHE GOT CPR IMMEDIATELY SO ENOUGH PRAY TO FORCE AND SHUT THE FUCK UP UNLESS YOU GOT SOMETHING NEW TO SHARE.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/812502958877179904

Pabs knows whats up

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How's the U-Wing expansion? Worth it?

>>50848870
I've been testing it out. Very wonky, but definitely good.

>>50848804
I want to play in a game with Pablo as GM

>>50848903
Nah, I'd rather bro it up with Pablo and face the Gaigax-esque Campaign Filoni has cooked up

>>50848384

>A medic who was travelling on the plane administered CPR

According to BBC News.

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>>50848923

>>50848870

It's worth it to have a model of that beautiful girl in your home, flying around while you play "Fortunate Son".

>>50849023

If the U-Wing was a waifu, what would she be like? She's at least a cousin of the T-65.

>>50848256
Not a Sith. The Sith are gone.

What exactly the Knights of Ren are or know in relation to Sith lore, knowledge, techniques, and rituals is unknown - but it's been directly stated b JJ and Kathleen and Pablo that Kylo and the other Knights of Ren are not Sith, and neither is Snoke.

>>50848462
It wasn't that big of a mistake, especially since they made it unimportant by saying that only some Sith follow the rule, and that Inquisitors don't count for whatever reason. Yoda knowing the rule was though.

>>50847197
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>>50848939
Attendants have CPR training plus there was a doctor and a nurse on board. We SHOULD be okay. I hope.

>>50849268
The dumb thing was limiting it to just two in the whole fucking galaxy. I can get behind sith always being in two's cause more than that always devolves into a backstabbing clusterfuck. A galaxy filled with sith duos running around doing crazy shit is infinitely more interesting to me.

>>50849356
Blame Bane, he killed all the other Sith then made the Rule of Two.

>>50849356
See - even with multiple sets with Sith, it's almost guaranteed that they'd start fighting each other and some would build alliances against others.

Effectively, your version of the Rule of Two doesn't really make them any better off than they were before Bane, only instead of an entire army they have just a small number scattered around the galaxy.

The Rule of Two as it exists in canon and Legends works because it allows focus without infighting.

>>50849386
Technically with Legends you can trace the blame all the way back to Revan.

And in canon, Bane didn't kill off all the other Sith, he was just the last known survivor.

>>50849408
How do you know he didn't kill some of them?
And what did Revan do besides get amnesia and become a good man again before Darth Traya's jedi purge?

>>50849324
>>50848939
WAS THAT SOMETHING NEW? NO, NO IT WASN'T, SO SHUT UP UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME NEWS SOURCED TO CARRIE HERSELF OR HER FAMILY.

>>50849446
Revan was the one who came up with the original idea of limiting the Sith numbers, Bane is the one who implemented it.

There's nothing saying that Bane didn't kill other Sith in canon, but we know that he was the last known survivor as the Jedi hunted down and killed many of the other Sith during the war.

>>50849408
I'm honestly fine with that kind of situation. It's all about what's interesting, and pairs of sith running around, scheming and dealing, forging temporary(what other kind would they ever make) alliances and setting up the inevitable betrayal while preparing for the same is more awesome to me. I want a small number scattered around the galaxy wreaking havoc while trying to make the galaxy conform to their vision, and theirs alone.

>>50849483
So Revan was about equal in intelligence to Bane about how the Sith were supposed to be, except he didn't implement it.

>>50849268
>It wasn't that big of a mistake
They are extinct now, both as a religion and philosophy because of it. Not to mention that it doesn't even ensure that the duo is a powerful one. The master could be a padawan tier force user

I've never played or ran a game of ffg Star Wars, how's the system like? Is it worth while to get into it or should I look for a different system for muh space adventures?

>>50849561
Without it, the Jedi would have wiped them out completely, Bane was the Chosen One of the Sith, he saved them and their ideology from complete extinction, until his descendants down the Master-Apprentice chain met the Chosen One of the Jedi.

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>>50849474

Armadafag II here. Wondering how effective it would be to build a reverse-Maulerball with Ten Nunb, Dutch, Wedge etc. My meta is hyper-fucking-competitive and sent Justin-fucking-Curtis and his Reeikan's Aceholes list to the final table this year.

>>50849646
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUNNY! haha, no seriously made me chuckle.

>>50849561
As long as each apprentice is the one to take out their master, it ensures that each successive master is stronger than the last. Apprentices that fail to do it are eventually replaced by one that can.
Of course, if an outside agency takes them out, the entire system falls apart, since there's no guarantee that the apprentice suddenly thrust into the master position is actually stronger than the guy who just got killed. But even then, the apprentice managed to survive whatever killed the master, which counts for something as long as the death wasn't boring shit like mundane diseases or old age.

>>50849692
It was rarely if ever outside forces because they kept themselves hidden from the galaxy at large.

>>50849615
I like it but its narrativist leaning and unique dice scare some people away

if those 2 things don't deter you, get your hands on a beginner box and get some friends

>>50849844
Yeah those dice are funky looking, do they take some time to get used to? Do they work well or would regular dice just be better?

>>50849855
The dice do take some time to get used to, but it's really just adding up symbols. The same symbols appear on different dice in different amounts, some good, some bad, some adding extra (good or bad) bits onto the result.
There's a conversion chart for using regular dice, but it's a pain in the ass to use it, imo.

>>50849956
Do the dice cost a lot?

>>50850002
they can be.

the best way to get them imo is through the beginner boxes, since each one comes with a set.

there are apps for it though

>>50849523
>except he didn't implement it.
Because he knew better

>>50850130
Knew better than who? Bane's strategy lasted for over 1000 years, it only failed because one of his descendants was a power hungry, genre savvy, fuckhead who purged almost all the jedi except for the Chosen One and some Masters in exile.

>>50850173
>Knew better than who? Bane's strategy lasted for over 1000 years,
Imagine the two only Sith in the galaxy are in a spaceship. Shapechip goes boom.
No more Sith.
Ever.

Kind of an all eggs in the same basket kind of thing.
Especially risky with eggs that want to kill each other.

>>50850225
Yeah but the other strategies weren't working very well either, and Bane's was certainly the most effective continuously for the longest stretch of time, outside of the original Sith Empire on Korriban before they acquired space travel.

>>50850270
Dunno. It seems to me a tribal approach or a cabal thing would have worked too. A small group of individuals work together to amass power and teach each other in order to dominate another group of people.
That way your entire philosophy doesn't die out if you and your apprentice get caught in a natural disaster.

>>50850307
>working together

Again, not really something the Sith do well in the long term. Even before the Brotherhood, the Sith were a bunch of backstabbing dicks whose only real value was their rad outfits.

>>50850307
Issue is that can create factionism and infighting. With the Rule of Two, if there's infighting, one comes out on top, and is the new Sith Lord. Pretty cut and dry.

It's an unhealthy dynamic, but it's one created to address an incredibly unhealthy ideology and way of life.

>>50850307
True, but that scenario never happened, and while there are many ways it could have failed it only failed because the last Sith was stupid enough to keep the Jedi's Chosen One alive and take him as an apprentice.

>>50849474
Not wanting to be a huge dickhole but if someone truly has cardiopulmonary arrest that is tough on your body. CPR is the best we have but it is nowhere near as effective as your heart and long term arrests can have severe effects on brain function. Every long term ventilation patient I've seen has been someone who last pulse for a long time and was brought back. My prayers are with her and her family and I hope she makes a full recovery

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>>50850362
I know all that, man i just wanted people to shut up about it until we knew more, so that said here have some pic related

>>50850380
Fair enough. Just felt like throwing in some medical knowledge/hopes for her and her family

>>50850391
Sine I'm an atheist, I'm only gonna say, may the Force be with her.

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>>50849054
>If the U-Wing was a waifu, what would she be like?

Tough spunky girl with nurture instincts

Guy joining my EotE system wants to play a force sensitive using FaD classes, which I'm fine with.

But should I just use Morality for him? Or just Obligation? Or both? Not sure how to proceed here.

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>>50850511
>play a force sensitive using FaD classes

You shouldn't.

But if it doesn't bother you, then you can use Morality just for him. Keep track of his Emotional Strength and Weakness, and mark a spot on the Obligation chart for him, so you can roll a situation for either of his emotional issues to come up. Either that, or just provide situations and and provide morality gains (or losses) based on how he acts in those situations.

But again, you shouldn't. Playing Force Sensitives is what the Exile and Emergent are for. Playing Jedi, or the closest thing to it, is what the F&D classes are for - which often lead to players wanting lightsabers.

>>50850544
>You shouldn't
Why? Force Sensitive Exile seems like a really disappointing XP sink, the F&D classes at least look appealing. I admit I haven't looked into it heavily though, I've always had mundane parties.

>>50850544
>which often lead to players wanting lightsabers.
Yeah because why would someone wanting to play a Star Wars RPG want to have the literally most iconic weapon of the entire franchise?

>>50850409
that explains your autism

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>>50850558
>Why?

Some of the F&D Spec's are designed to fit what F&D is - that you are NOT jedi, but are instead whatever survived past Order 66 - maybe younglings who escaped the temple but have so far grown up with an understanding of the Force, but no Jedi teachings.

But at the same time, thats also what the Exile and Emergent are.

Again its up to you, but if you want your campaign to focus on what Edge of the Empire is about, you should stay away from Force or Jedi plots (and anything that goes with them) at all costs.

>>50850564
Wanting something doesn't mean you should have it. If a campaign is about smuggling, bounty hunting, and other space outer rim scum things, a Lightsaber is the quickest way to kill that campaign.

>>50850544
If one of my players wanted a lightsaber I'd let them pursue that, as long as they're willing to recognise that it's a difficult process, and could get some really nasty heat on them if word gets around.

>>50850597
This is the correct way to handle it.

>>50850596
>Wanting something doesn't mean you should have it. If a campaign is about smuggling, bounty hunting, and other space outer rim scum things, a Lightsaber is the quickest way to kill that campaign.
This is not.

>>50850595
How exactly would being an Athiest make me Autistic? It means just not believing in any diety.

>>50847129
Too soon.

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>>50850597
>really nasty heat on them if word gets around.

Everyone, from each player to the GM, should all be aware that a campaign could go to shit from force shenanigans drawing the empire - because its massively selfish for one player to want a shiny stick and causing a party to get killed by drawing inquisitors like flies, especially if the rest of the party isn't down for that kind of action, and would rather do scum things instead. Therefore, the GM, and the rest of the players, should all agree on that kind of thing.

>>50850614
>This is not.

Its just my opinion. I speak from experience, as both a player and a GM - I've seen it happen multiple times.

All it takes is a party of non-combat characters, with maybe one guy whose a hired gun, trying to do outer rim things, and one selfish player who wants something that could get everyone into trouble, and no self-control to stop himself from doing stupid shit in front of the wrong people - multiple times - when he should be discreet.

>>50849054
>If the U-Wing was a waifu, what would she be like?
Extremely tomboyish, vacillitates between trying to play Older Brother and Team Mom. Wears cargo pants and a denim shirt, cuts her hair short, not quite tsundere, too cuddly-huggy-willing to say the words that kill for that

>>50850650
>all it takes is the specific circumstances of shitty players and a poor GM

If that's what you have to do with you and your group, fine, but generally good DMing 101 is being able to handle saying and dealing with the consequences of "yes, but" instead of "no" in these kind of situations.

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>>50850693

Not all of us have the luxury of who we have in our groups - and not all of us have the luxury of treating shit players like shit, considering these people may have been friends for a long time, and might be perfectly fine in every other situation.

As for "good dm'ing 101" - the goal is to create soft barriers so you aren't shutting a player down completly. There are ways to do this - my suggestion was to limit a player from taking obviously jedi stuff and keep the campaign focused on EotE - my second suggestion was to make sure everyone is ok with the fact that a campaign might go pear shaped when the plot goes into obvious force use.

In my campaigns, my group works together to make characters that compliment each other, without deciding "im going to do x" and potentially ruining the fun of someone else. We consider this good manners, and it makes the game better for everyone involved,

It should not be up to the GM to salvage shit from a terribly made party of characters, made by players who dont give a shit about anyone but themselves

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>>50845560

I rather like that the SW universe doesn't change technology on a dime. Most of human history has been slow, methodical adoption of technology, and SW overall shows that reasonably well I think.

I like that the SW universe is old as hell, and they've been repeating this same Empire/Republic song and dance for thousands of years now. It's poetry.

>>50847303
It will be great filler. Base ship with TRCs should be enough, I think. Gives the Imps a good small ship that isn't crap like the raider or non-Demolisher glads.

>>50849663
Take Yavaris. I ended up getting fifth at a regionals with it and Rieekan aces. It was so scary that my opponents ignored my MC30 with H9s, to their extreme detriment.

In a super-competitive meta I'd feel no compulsion against net-listing.

I mostly do that with Armada since I don't get nearly enough practice in with it to become a prodigy, like I am with X-wing.

>>50850173
Seriously. Anakin was the culmination of the Sith; corrupting the chosen one towards its own ends. He was perfect for it, just not perfect for one Chancellor Palpatine.

He didn't have the good graces to die and hand over his empire to his apprentice, so he ended up dooming the whole affair.

Of course Anakin couldn't understand when he was being outwitted on Mustafar, so who knows.

I'm just glad she was able to get one new movie in. For her sake as well as for us. her life kinda went to shit after SW and I'm glad she was able to get cleaned up and get back to the big time.

>>50850780
>corrupting the chosen one towards its own ends

Anakin wasn't made by the Light Side of the Force...

>>50850783
All of the principal photography for Episode VIII is done, she'll be in the next movie even if she dies.

>>50850780
He was not the Sith'ari that was Darth Bane, Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One of Jedi prophecy and did in fact bring balance back to the Force, you don't have to like it but thats WoG from Lucas himself.
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>>50850798
For you two, pic related in my linked post unless you have some kind of information we don't, if so share your source. >>50850380

>>50850786
I hope this was sarcasm he was in fact created by the Force.

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Is Aramada good? I'm not a fan of fighter combat unless it's a sim (X-Wing scale just ain't for me) and I prefer big napoleonic ships instead of fighters for TBS TT, so is it shit or is it good? Should I pick it up this christmas?

>>50850852
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-viii-wraps-shooting

Shooting wrapped months ago you mongoloid, this is incredibly old info. Stop being so bizarrely autistic about this, it's Star Wars relevant news, people are going to talk about it regardless of how much you try to convince them otherwise.

>>50850852
You know you don't actually own the thread right? Calm your tits.

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>>50850852
>I hope this was sarcasm he was in fact created by the Force.

Its not sarcasm. Rogue One has given me a theory on what the force is, and if you look at it from this perspective, the force is both an energy field that jedi can tap into and use, as well as manipulable destiny on a galatic scale.

Its a religion that only the Jedi are a very small minority of, and are more like D&D clerics in that sense - while everyone else believes that the force is a part of their lives, and when it is with them, will cause fate to change for the better for them.

But this theory only really works if you look at star wars from the core of canon media.

As well, if you believe that the force can make things happen, that the dark side can do this as well.

Ergo, Anakin was made by the Force, but the Dark Side - because his rise gave rise to the Dark Side, and set into motion a grander swirl in the war between the Light and the Dark.

But again, this is just my theory. Feel free to say I;m full of shit

>>50850903
Active canon suggests that while non-Jedi/Sith Force Religions do exist, the Empire actively tries to stamp most of them out, and closely monitors the few it hasn't eliminated.

>>50848923
>play with Filoni
>get great NPCs
>live in terror of the moment he catches on that you like them

>>50850878
Yes I am aware that I don't own the thread, that said, this is a depressing subject and unless something changes for better or worse it need not be mentioned.
>>50850864
I'm aware that it did, but my point is that depressing everybody by bringing up Carrie's heart attack when pretty much anyone who comes into this thread already knows is pointless and not conducive to discussion of Star Wars, it however does invite plenty of pointless mourning and support posts but being that Carrie can not see and likely will never see them, whether she lives or dies makes inviting it idiocy unless there's new information.
>>50850903
I'm not saying you're full of shit Lucas and by extension Disney are, because afaik they adopted most of his canon rules when they bought his IP, and the films prove you wrong anyway, that said I can see how you came to this conclusion and you can feel free to keep it in your head-canon.

>>50850861
Fighter squadrons are an intrinsic part of Armada. Most good lists at this point use them at least somewhat.

I rather like the squadron combat in Armada because it is exceptionally brutal.

I enjoy it immensely myself, but it really isn't for everyone. I'd recommend you find someone who has it and play a few games before purchasing.

>>50850786
>>50850852

I mean, Anakin being the being of prophecy doesn't also stop him from being the culmination of the rule of two. At full power he absolutely had the raw power of seizing the galaxy. It's just the Force had other ideas in mind.

Kreia was right?

>>50850981
The Rule of Two wasn't a prophecy. it was a rule that there can only be two Sith at a time nothing more nothing less and Kreia was the ever spiteful Chris Avellone's mouthpiece and was completely wrong about the force according to LucasArts Studios, it made her a fine antagonist but a shitty character in general.

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>>50850968
>and the films prove you wrong anyway,

Oh? In what way?
I ask because im trying to plug holes in my theory, so its helpful

>>50850945
Jedha changes that, considering it swarmed with force religions who successfully lobbied the empire to not destroy one of the last jedi temples

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Anyway, to explain my theory a bit more
One of the big aspects of star wars that, heretofore, has made little to no sense, is that "May the Force be With You" is a saying amongst non-jedi, yet the Jedi are the only ones who can use the Force. That "The Force is Strong" without a real understanding of what this means, besides a general thought that it means your "better at space magic" - that there are force religions of people who are not force sensitive and worship the force, despite the fact that all we've ever learned about is what are a very small group of people (the jedi and the sith).

I think even the idea of Force Sensitivity is completely wrong, and using FFG as an example, it is, considering a person can buy into a force spec for a force rating, at any time in the campaign (previous to star wars d20 which required the feat at chargen).

But as I said, it only really holds up when applied to the Movies, specifically ANH, TFA, and Rogue One, with ESB a bit.

>>50851037
>Jedha changes that, considering it swarmed with force religions who successfully lobbied the empire to not destroy one of the last jedi temples
Sheev used their concentration there as a way to keep them in conflict and paint them with the same brush as Saw's partisans.

>>50851037
>Jedha changes that, considering it swarmed with force religions who successfully lobbied the empire to not destroy one of the last jedi temples
Until they got all they needed out of it, and promptly blew up the entire city with great prejudice, after having it under military occupation since Order 66.

>>50850981
>I enjoy it immensely myself, but it really isn't for everyone. I'd recommend you find someone who has it and play a few games before purchasing.
Nobody plays it around me, but dropping $100 isn't much of a hit for me.

>>50850650

I'm literally a player who's running a FaD Jedi class in an EotE campaign.

I went through a ton of trouble to put together a lightsaber and I only used it two times in the last ten sessions, and that was against beasties in wilderness areas because no word would get around.

Going full Obi-wan in every urban/cantina battle would probably get us hunted down by some awful Imperial shit judging by what the GM's hinted.

>>50851037
The Phantom Menace alone calls Anakin the Chosen One, you know, the high Midi-chlorian count thing, it's reinforced in Clone Wars and Revenge, and brought to it's completeion in Return Of The Jedi, which i think refers not to luke but to Anakin's return to the light, and from the legends books on Palpatine's master Darth Plagueis which are at least partially canon now that they were referenced in disney material he was trying to do that with the Dark side and failed then his apprentice killed him, the force itself made Anakin there is no doubt on this he turned to the Dark, yes, but in the end he came back to the Light, where he belonged, and there are numerous things throughout legends and in the OT that hint he never fully fell any way.

>>50850650
It's like any stupid decision players can make, it can impact on the party massively if they're idiots. I don't see the problem if you have a competent party who can accept the implications of their actions and act appropriately.

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>>50851037

>One of the big aspects of star wars that, heretofore, has made little to no sense...

To finish was I was saying because I forgot to write my conclusion...
Is that, for normal people, the Force is fate. Saying "May the Force be with you" is saying "may fate be with you, may fate be on your side". When you say "the force is strong" it could be taken to mean " the force is taking an active hand in my destiny"

>I fear nothing, for I know that all is as the Force wills it.

>>50851052
>>50851058

Thats still something like 16 to 20 years of the Empire allowing force hippies to do whatever they wanted. And even then, they didn't even cop to the fact that they were the ones who destroyed Jedha

But really, the most interesting part of that, is that force religions DO exist, and they effect a greater number of the galactic population then the Jedi do, when everything we've seen up to this point says that the force is meaningless if your NOT a Jedi, without a proper explanation for singular cases like the rebellion saying "may the force be with us"

>>50851092
There is a quote in TFA, that talks about "the war between the light and the dark" - and in my theory, if the force manipulates fate (either for people or because of people) then the dark side does this as well - And it can be explained that Anakin's fall was engineered by the Dark Side either from his birth or after - its all part of a cosmic push and pull between two forces, and the saga of Anakin and Luke are thrust and counter-thrust between the Light and the Dark

>>50851092
>the high Midi-chlorian count thing,
On a side note, the Midichlorian count would have been so much better if it were similar to a Geiger count, as just a measure of Force flux or something.

>>50851062
If you're asking the question then I'd say go for it. You can always sell it on e-bay if you hate it.

Keep in mind though that the core battles are paltry compared to a full 400-point slugfest. Also the X-wings the rebel player gets are crucial to taking down the Victory in 200-point games. You will know whether you like Armada's take on squadrons out of the gate.

>>50851118
Maybe it is it was never fully explained anyway.
>>50851116
Yeah the constant war between the Force and it's cancer the Dark Side, which is the content creators original interpretation, I prefer to one that The Clone Wars TV series put forth that the Dark and the Light both have to exist for the Force and by extension the universe to be in balance, the origins of the Jedi and Dark jedai were as Balance Keepers known as Jeedai on a planet extremely sensitive to force imbalances, too much of either and massive force storms happened, so everyone worked to be as balanced as they could, eventually Light and Dark split the order, conflict arose and in the end Light won they became the Jedi, with the exiled loser being known as Dark Jedi until one day a group of Dark Jedi Landed on Korriban, and were introduced to the natives known as the Sith.

>>50851119
Oh I wasn't talking about squadrons and whether or not I liked them, I was talking about how I was interested in Aramada but NOT interested in X-Wing at all. What's the ship to ship combat like in armada? Similar to BFG or the old star wars miniatures game?

>You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them, bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness.

For the past several thousand years the Jedi have ruled supreme in a relatively peaceful era within the Republic. If Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the force, doesn't it make sense that he would join the dark side? You know, to BALANCE the force?

>>50851184
Yeah and then destroy the Sith, the Prophecy may have been misinterpreted, as we saw in all 6 original films, I think it was a prophecy form when the Jedai were Jeedai on the planet of the orders origin.

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>>50851171
>Dark and the Light both have to exist for the Force and by extension the universe to be in balance

I honestly like that a lot.
In my new headcanon\theory, it makes a bit more sense as to why the Light and Dark side are at war, because the "balance keepers" fucked up.

Also, my interpretation of the dark side has always been different. Specifically, that the Dark Side is a natural part of the force, because if the force is created by all living things, then evil is something that exists naturally - whether its predators eating each other, or sentients murdering each other - the dark side is born from that side of things.

>>50851079

I really feel like a Lightsaber wielder would have to be extraordinarily reckless to really bring the Empire's wrath in their heads. How many of the wanted criminals who frequent average Outer Rim Cantinas are really going to go to the authorities and risk imprisonment because they saw Obi-wan pull his sword in a bar fight? I mean, shit, when Obi-wan pulled his sword in the Cantina Darth Vader's personal Stormtrooper legion were in the city and nobody informed them. Vader didn't even hear about the incident of the ship that shot its way out of the spaceport vs those very same stormtroopers until it showed up on the Death Star's door!

If Obiwan can pull his sword in a city full of Vader's own stormtroopers and word not get back to Vader about it, I really feel like your level of Lightsaber discretion doesn't have to be all that high, at least out in the sticks of the Outer Rim.

>>50851203
>>50851171
I've been misspelling that it's Je'daii and the planet was Tython Jeedai is the Hutt word for Jedi,
>>50851212
Yeah, well the TV shows interpretation is canon because Disney accepted the show into canon, but Anakin was created by the Force itself neither Sith nor Jedi had anything to do with it, although it's implied Plaugueis fucking around with the midi-chlorians might have catalysed the force into action, he didn't create Anakin.

>>50851171
>I prefer to one that The Clone Wars TV series put forth that the Dark and the Light both have to exist for the Force and by extension the universe to be in balance
The way I understood it - cause by the end of the story arc it was apparent that the father was wrong all along - was that there really is no light or dark side.
It's all just the Force.
The dogmatism of the Sith and the Jedi at that time was ill conceived.
Which is why in Episode III we got this whole stick about how the Jedi have become corrupt and lost their way yadda yadda.

Imagine your ability to use the force was a muscle. Stringent adherence to the old Jedi code is governed by a an arbitrary set of rules that dictate what belongs into your diet and when to work out. This is not necessarily harmful, but strictly speaking not even necessary. Then you got the Dark Side which is like shooting up with steroids. You'll see faster results, but it'll fuck you up in the long terms.
Best not to follow any strict dogma, but exist in harmony with the Force, i.e. do what feels natural (for your muscle).

Maybe that's a terrible explanation, but it's the best I can think of atm.

>>50848256
That, good sir, is a lego

>>50847129
ALRIGHT, MOTHERFUCKERS!
CHECK.
THIS.
SHIT.
OUT.
>Take a U-Wing
>Slap Hera Syndula in that bitch
>Add another character of your choice
>Do 0's and flip that bitch in circles all game long
>[Airhorn noises]

>>50851171

I really don't agree that The Clone War's message about the Force in that episode was that Light and Dark have to exist and be in balance in the universe. I thought the message of the Mortis trilogy was pretty clearly that Darkness is something that has to be chosen, and it is the duty of those who are strong enough not to choose it to contain it. The Father and Daughter both have dialogue that make it clear that the Son may have been naturally inclined to evil, but he still had to CHOOSE to indulge in the Dark Side of the force and use it to feed those negative emotions. Also that there was still much good in him despite his lust for power. To me all of that says the moral is the same that George always said about the Force: Evil the an aberration, even if it is an inevitable one, and balance means Evil being checked, not evil being equal to good.

>>50851213

Yeah, I think people REALLY overestimate how quickly the empire will hear about jedi.

Heck, I mean look at Rebels. That has 2 known Jedi in it and even then Inquisitors are a sometimes problem, not a 'Constant shitstomping' problem.

>>50851254
I think the father as literally the Personification of Balance in the Force was right and reminding you the show came after Revenge not before so yeah your interpretation is kind of what the father said all along, that anakin was his next form and if he refuses his destiny well anakin would have to fall to the dark and then balance it all out in the end
Here's something fun from the Legends continuity.

There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no fear; there is power.
I am the heart of the Force.
I am the revealing fire of light.
I am the mystery of darkness.
In balance with chaos and harmony,
Immortal in the Force.

That the original Je'daii code kinda the Gray Jedi code the only code that fucking matters.

>>50851285
See my post here
>>50851298
for why thats partly right and partly wrong

>>50851254

>Which is why in Episode III we got this whole stick about how the Jedi have become corrupt and lost their way yadda yadda.

Wasn't the point of Anakin making this accusation to show how completely insane he'd driven himself? He choked his pregnant wife to apparent death moments before he said it, the woman he'd murdered a bunch of children to save not hours earlier. And suddenly "From my point of view the Jedi are evil?" Based on what Anakin?

The idea that the Jedi were corrupt and had lost their way was a crock of shit, typical dark side dissembling and self-deception. At absolute worst they were misguided in allowing themselves to compromise themselves by taking up the burden of leading the army in the prosecution of the Clone Wars. But them being in that situation was part of the Sith's trap to begin with, so its hardly to be laid at the feet of their order being corrupt.

>>50851335
>Wasn't the point of Anakin making this accusation to show how completely insane he'd driven himself? He choked his pregnant wife to apparent death moments before he said it, the woman he'd murdered a bunch of children to save not hours earlier. And suddenly "From my point of view the Jedi are evil?" Based on what Anakin?

Nah that's not what I mean.
I mean the discussion between Yoda and Mace Windu how the order had become complacent and the Jedi had lost their way.

The whole thing with Anakin saying the Jedi are evil kinda makes sense if you take into account that he killed Dooku beforehand in a similar way. He knew it was wrong then and did it anyway. Then he saw Windu intent on doing it too and prevented him from doing so.
On top of that Windu was a guy who openly stated he didn't trust Anakin, a fellow member of the Order which essentially was his family at that, trying to kill the only other friend Anakin had.
If you take into account the dogmatic view on feelings, how repressed the Jedi were in general as opposed to compassionate, which is something he in particular struggled with due to being a slave and losing his mother and all that jazz it kind of makes sense that the slights, mistrust and resentment
he felt in the Jedi Order ended in that conviction. He felt betrayed.

Of course on screen that came off as stilted and incredibly awkward piece of dialogue. The films in general could have used some fine tuning for dialogue and relationship stuff imo.

>>50849561
All it takes is one guy stumbling on a holocron. All it takes is one guy stumbling onto an ancient temple in a far away world. All it takes is one jedi questioning their own beliefs...

>>50851298
>>50851309

I just don't agree with that interpretation. I mean, look at what actually happened to the Je'daii. The reason their was a schism between those who favored light and those who favored dark is because they were attacked by an all-dark Force civilization, and the Light users saw how dangerous Dark can be if it gets out of control while the Dark users saw how powerful they could become if they moved away from the light. When they saw the atrocities the Dark was capable of unleashing, one side reacted with horror and the other side reacted with greed. If that's not a banner reading "choosing the dark is bad," I don't know what is.

Even in Mortis, Father and Daughter were working TOGETHER to contain Son. Daughter wasn't trying to leave and spread Light across the Galaxy. She was devoted to making sure her brother didn't spread Darkness. Father said he was keeping his children in balance, but clearly that balance was being tipped by Son's use of the Dark Side. Look at Father's dialogue:

>You have done what is forbidden. You have chosen the dark side and allowed it to feed your anger and desire for power.

>Do not do this, son. Do not become what you should not. Be strong, I implore you, or else I will be forced to contain you.

Now, to be clear, its pretty obvious that the official JEDI ORDER DOCTRINE of keep yourself completely pure of anything that might lead to ANY Dark Side is wrongheaded and goes too far. That's removing choice entirely, which doesn't help anything. But I'd still say the message "Dark side bad, Light side containing it is what balance means," is pretty clear.

>>50849324
1 minute without oxygen to the brain and you start suffering brain damage, even if she's """""alive""""" she won't be able to return the same, not in the next couple years at least.

How do you fix the fact that Morality just steadily goes up as long as you stay vaguely neutral? Simply avoiding robbing people and murdering mooks shouldn't be enough to make you a light side paragon.

>>50851448
She had CPR immediately. That suggests she was at no point without oxygen.

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>>50851275
HAHA you're like a little child, watch this:
>Take any ship with a 1 hard left/right, Crew slot and EPT
>Slap Daredevil, Engine Upgrade and Kanan in there
>Do a 1 hard right (or left) and then Daredevil with the same maneuver
>Enjoy drifting in circles all game long in your YT1300
>[EUROBEAT INTENSIFIES]

>>50851420

>The whole thing with Anakin saying the Jedi are evil kinda makes sense if you take into account that he killed Dooku beforehand in a similar way. He knew it was wrong then and did it anyway. Then he saw Windu intent on doing it too and prevented him from doing so.

I don't think that holds up. Anakin's dialogue in that scene is not indicative of him having learned a lesson from Dooku's death. He makes a couple of half-baked arguments that its clear from his tone he doesn't even believe himself for sparing Sidious, and then he gives his real reason: I need him. Also, its worth noting that Windu DID try to arrest Palpatine before he unleashed Force Lightning and started spewing bullshit about Jedi coups and how weak and defenseless he was that you would have to be an idiot to believe given what was happening right in front of your eyes and everything that had happened before.

Windu did say that he didn't trust Anakin, but Windu also took Anakin at his word that Palpatine was a Sith, and basically implied "If this pans out you will have saved the Jedi order, and I'll be in your corner going forward. I'm asking you to stay out of it for YOUR good, not mine." Also Anakin's requests to join the party to arrest Palpy were clearly just because he wanted to make sure he survived the arrest for his personal reasons, and he wasn't thinking about any greater good. Which is the clouded judgement Windu sensed and exactly why he wanted Anakin on the sidelines. It wasn't warm and fuzzy, but Windu WAS looking out for Skywalker. A lot more than his "friend," Sheev who had been lying and manipulating him for a decade. If Anakin couldn't see that it had to be because he CHOSE not to see it.

>>50851335
Yeah you got that right.
>>50851420
Yeah maybe Yoda and Mace were right, but again it was part of a sith trap true it's not hard to see why Anakin felt that way but he was delusional at the time and later regretted it all.
>>50851441
And that's basically what the Je'daii did, contained the Dark with the light, and they didn't stray too far into the light they kept to the center which is what the Father did he wanted his Son to succeed him, but he fell to the light while his daughter became a paragon of light and virtue and not balanced like him, Anakin was supposed to be his destined successor supplied directly by the force but Anakin had free will and chose differently. Yeah the Je'daii ended thanks to the Rakatan Infinite Empire, but that was just bad luck, and the Rakatan were the origin of Lightsabers being associated with jedi as well. Yeah thats the message of the Je'daii as well Balance not too much Light or Dark, have both but keep them in check, Father may well have been one at some point.

>>50851275
NO.
CHECK THIS SHIT OUT.
>U-Wing again
>no Hera crew
>Landing mode
>reveal 0 stop while stressed
>turn ship 180 degrees as on card
>do the white 2 straight as on the latest FAQ for revealing red manuevers while stressed

I call it the Nope Button.

>>50851450

I'm like 90% sure that your morality can only go up or down if you earn Conflict. If you have 0 conflict you don't do the morality roll, and your number stays the same. I might be misreading the rules though.

Either way, if your GM is having you move toward the Light Side Paragon level for just being a basically decent human being, I'm pretty sure they're doing something wrong.

>>50851290

Rebels already jumped the shark by having Vader show up and do absolutely nothing.

When Vader has to get involved in potential Jedi problems, then those problems should not survive.

>>50851583

Asoka had to die to stop Vader from "solving the Jedi problems." Is that not enough of a narrative price paid for the heroes to survive dealing with him?

>>50851593

Theres no proof shes dead, and its obvious Vader isn't. He basically got turned into a season villain, to be overcome, just like Thrawn will, which is fine as long as you dont start with the endgame boss so soon.

>>50851583

Do absolutely nothing? They did absolutely nothing but try to escape and even then, they lost a major ally in the process. It's not like they beat him.

He also didn't turn up because of Jedi being there, he turned up because the High Inquisitor got himself killed.

>>50851575
It's how it works in RAW though.

I like this dude's system, although it's still not immune to lazy GMing. Basically, makes emotional stress cause you to take on conflict, and doing good things takes away conflict. More focus on emotional duress leading people to the darkside than doing evil shit.

http://rules-lawyers.com/2015/08/10/rules-lawyering-rethinking-the-rules-from-force-and-destinys-morality-system/

>>50851627
Vader barely even noticed Kanan and Ezra. They never tried to overcome him, they just succeeded in surviving an encounter with him. If Vader's objective was to eliminate them they would already be dead.

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Stat me, /swg/

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Weeteef_Cyubee

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When?

>>50851529
>Anakin's dialogue in that scene is not indicative of him having learned a lesson from Dooku's death.
The line 'that's not the Jedi way' is said in>>50851529
>and then he gives his real reason: I need him.
in both scenes
Yeah. I mean this doesn't happen in a vacuum. Sidious whispered in Anakin's ear all the time, TCW also has a few epsiodes where Palpatine tries to force a choice between him and the Jedi Order's rules.
>It wasn't warm and fuzzy, but Windu WAS looking out for Skywalker.
This is true too, but the films also mention that Anakin feels slighted by the Council and like they were holding him back. Here you got this guy who openly says 'I don't trust you, but you have to trust me', do you really think he'd just go for that?

As I said the films handle that not quite as elegantly as another film maker might have, but the constellation of characters and their relationships makes a lot of sense on paper.

>>50850852
I was just posting my feelings on the matter, not claiming anything. Calm yourself, youngling.

Does anyone else hope podracing makes another appearance?

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OR here >>50802639

Thank you so much!

>>50851963
About the Sith'ari thing? Yeah, I was quite calm just telling it like it is, my friend.

If it was any of the other things, maybe I was a little perturbed but still very reasonable, I think.

>>50851712
Gotta wait for the race to get some actual details.

I suspect it'll be in an FFG book but who knows.

>>50851799
Is that a Hotrod-ised V-Wing?

>>50852049
It's a hot-rodized Delta 7. Anakin's personal ship in Genndy Wars. It's /swg/-wide accepted that its the Star Wars equivalent of Brian's riced out Skyline.

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>>50852037
>it'll be in an FFG book

I kinda hope we get some stats for Rogue One goodies, notably...

>A280 CFE
>A180 Pistol
>A310 Rifle
>Czerka ACH-14 Combat Helmet
>E-11D Rifle
>E-22 Reciprocating Rifle
>DT-29 Heavy Pistol
>MWC-35c Repeating Cannon
>Guardian Lightbow
>TIE Striker
>UT-60D U-Wing
>MC75 Cruiser
>Delta Class T-3c Shuttle
>Zeta Class Cargo Shuttle

>>50852029
About Carrie Fisher

Me and my friends have a debate going. Since FFG doesn't have grappling rules, do you think Grappling is better represented under Brawl or by athletics? I say the later because Brawl is a combat skill and since grappling won't do any damage due to lack of any rules for it, it should be expressed by non-combat skills.

Obviously this isn't taking into account something like the Pin talent, this is just speaking in general terms of your character wants to take someone down without having to shoot/stun them. It may also be relevant to make a distinction between combat grappling and non-combat RP grappling. I've also been wondering if it might make sense to use the Coordination skill in concert with athletics OR brawl to maintain grappling once its started.

Thoughts?

>>50852090
Oh, did you not read this? >>50850968
Yeah I was a little salty but I explained why very clearly here.

>>50852112
No, but now that I have, you're quite a wanker. Stop being so full of yourself, /swg/ isn't your fiefdom.

>>50852120

We're at least a bit more civil about it. I can only imagine the kind of shitposting going on in cancer dens like /swco/ and /tv/

>>50852120
I never said it was, but none of my points are incorrect or illogical. You, however don't seem to respond too well to logic, so please friend I invite you to just have a nice big cup of Shut The Fuck Up, and leave me alone.
>>50852130
Yeah, I was civil, bringing up Carrie's heart attack does not serve the threads purpose unless news arrives that she has either died or recovered sufficiently to speak about it, and assure us that she'll recover.

>>50852148
>don't talk about thing because muh feelz

Fuck off faggot

>>50852106
It's Brawl. If I remember correctly, they talked briefly about grappling under the Brawl section in the skill chapter.

Briefly as in "fuck making rules for this thing just roll and do whatever makes sense"

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>>50852155

Thats not how we treat people in here.

You wanna shitpost, go to /v/

>>50852155
Oh, fuck you, acting like you don't care whether Carrie Fisher dies or not. Get the fuck out of /swg/ and off /tg/ if all you're gonna be is an asshole.
>>50852165
My sentiments exactly I just have no more patience for civility.

So I really liked Rogue One. I think I especially liked the Space battle, it was fucking fantastic THEY CUT A STAR DESTROYER IN HALF OH MY GOD

But the ground combat definitely seemed frantic and chaotic, and that vague sense of just general hopelessness pervading everything right up until Princess Leia was well done.

But that's just like, my opinion, dudes, and you're welcome to disagree or agree as you please.

>>50852186

Definitely a great movie, but after a second viewing, I got really irritated with the shaky cam shit - I'm getting tired of all hollywood movies doing this kinda crap

>>50852186
Unashamedly agree.

>>50852186
>>50852205
>>50852209
Read the OP.

>>50852162

Well, I checked F&D at least and it makes no direct mention of grappling in the Brawl description.

I'm still not convinced, especially since I also checked the Pin talent again and it's specifically an opposed Athletics check. I still say it makes more sense to use non-combat skills for it because it does no damage, at least in situations where you'r playing out a scene and not in official-roll-initiative combat.

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>>50852309

We've been talking about Rogue One sense it came out. We're still going to talk about it.

And unironically suggesting discussing star wars at /tv/ is the worst suggestion ever - they hate the movie, they hate disney, and they hate star wars too.

So no, thank you.

>>50852309
agreeing with a shit-posters viewpoint is not necessarily shit-posting, and he is discussing stars wars not specifically the film, he said nothing specifically about the film only about the story of the film, so quit being a post nazi.
also this>>50852338

>>50852338
>sense
This is not a thread for movie criticism. 90% of the thread discussion is lore and games, because this is the board for lore and games.

If you want to talk about the specifics of the film, there's a board for that. Go there.

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>>50852350
>Go there

No, thank you.

Why don't you go there, your being a cunt, so you'd probably fit in.

>>50851438
>All it takes is one jedi questioning their own beliefs...
Dark jedi =/= Sith

>>50852350
He was discussing LORE, he said nothing other than the name of a story within the LORE, so why don't you leave instead, because what you're saying is pure bullshit.

>>50852360
>your
Go to /tv/.

>>50852363
He was discussing how much he liked the film and he spoilered specific scenes of the film in his post.

Just stop. Go to /tv/. Everyone else is talking about Armada, FFG, how to incorporate Force-users into their campaigns, and so on. Either contribute to the discussion or go to another board.

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>>50852381

You don't own the board, so fuck off.

Go summon a mod if it means that much to you shithead

>>50852381
I have been discussing Lore all fucking night that had nothing to do with any of the things you mentioned, and some to do with lore in the films, and some with the books in the Legends continuity, which may or may not be Canon, this thread is not yours even if you happen to be our supreme faggot OP, so quit policing and shut the hell up because we're not the shit posters here, you are.

>>50852080
I think you're missing the point of this system if you want different rules for every little blaster variant.

>>50852309
Are you the same guy complaining about Carrie Fisher posting?

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>>50852410

The A280 CFE and the A310 are different enough to warrant stats

The DT-29 is apparently a revolver blaster pistol.

The E-22 is different enough to require stats

Same with the Guardian Lightbow

All the starships listed need stats

>>50852419
No that's me here>>50852363
>>50852344
>>50852209
>>50852169
>>50852148
>>50852112
>>50852029
>>50850968
>>50850995
>>50851092
>>50851171
>>50851243
>>50850852
>>50852408
and many more posts

And if you think doing that was BS, fuck off, i already explained that unless she dies or recovers enough to speak, it's no longer relevant to this thread.

>>50852453
Hey c'mon man, I agree with you but there's no need to swear so much.

Anyway did anyone enjoy just how well the scenes on Jedha were filmed in Rogue One? You got a real sense of what the planet was like.

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>>50852465
>Jedha

Apparently Jedha has tons of background stuff going on. The R1VD elaborates on this a lot, but it sounds like one of the more interesting places in Star Wars. Theres even a renegade hard boiled space cop chasing down some intergalactic scum bag cutting peoples heads off

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>>50852106
Generally, I roll Brawl in with various martial arts, wrestling, throws and trips as something like a grapple is a combat activity. People don't generally want to get grabbed!
Plus, it lets people apply any talents, gear, armour and so forth into their defence and the attacker can do likewise with theirs if they have them + any situation modifiers like jumping out of the shadows, falling on people or you're trying to wrestle a Rancor
Where I do wander into houseruling though is if the attacker wishes to pin someone down with Brawl, they can chose to do strain damage or just hold them ie: choke them out, lock an ankle, pop a shoulder and all those fun things.

With regards to the 'Pin' talent that exists in Enter the Unknown, I let it work as per rules, but it deals no damage, they're just stuck there for however long the opposed check goes on, plus its a 25xp talent so it should be fairly good.

>Anyway, smallest and nosiest child has finally drifted off to sleep and so will I, have a fun xmas

>>50852465
Sorry, man, I'm just tired of people in this thread jumping down my throat because they want to discuss a tragedy that happened to an actress. One we all love dearly, who portrayed a character we all love just as much if not more than her actress. She doesn't live in the Star Wars universe however, so it isn't relevant and only serves to depress those who already know. If you don't know looking through the beginning few posts of the thread will let you know. Sorry for being so hostile though, didn't mean to be.

As for your question I did enjoy it, it seems Disney is putting competent people behind the camera, and hiring directors with vision if not editors.

>>50852487
I think that's one of the things that made the scenes in R1 superior to TFA. The team clearly had a whole back story laid out for each world and it really showed through.

>>50852515
No need to be sorry anon, you weren't really malicious and your right in that mindless repeating is annoying af.

To prevent an outburst from our resident Reeeeeeeeee, is there a way I can get into Armada without putting up a lot of capital? I know there is papercraft but how would I do the bases and squadrons?

>>50852527
Well thank you for that, still the hostility was undeserved so I do need to apologize.

I know nothing about Armada though, no money and no real interest in the ships aside from how cool they look and how they work, but not with doing play fights with them.

>>50852362
and yet the first sith was a jedi. Not to be confused with sith species.

>>50852562
No the first Sith was A Sith Wizard on The Sith Homeworld, they had discovered the dark side and had their own brand of space magic long before a Dark Jedi came along, friend.

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>>50852598
Pretty sure that's not canon, for better or worse.

>>50852614
True, as far as we kno, but it is Legends Canon, so it's still relevant to his discussion as he said the first sith was a Jedi, which is a fact in one Continuity but not the other, catch my drift?

>>50852614
Also who is he? or rather why is he at all relevant in respect to Star Wars?

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/swg/ Holiday Special is done. Had to throw it onto Gdocs because FF dot net's interface was acting all screwy:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tSOTb8xpOzh3-40vNFyTBHPDWhd36dnJrB8P6bIB-8M/edit?usp=sharing

Also, I've been on planes for the past day. What the fuck happened to Carrie Fisher?

>>50852882
She was on a plane too. Then she had a heart attack.

>>50852527

>is there a way I can get into Armada without putting up a lot of capital?

There a modules for Armada on both tabletop simulator and vassal, and getting either of those running is cheaper than buying in.

I think part of the reason Armada grows so much slower than X-wing is the starting cost - here in canuckistan a core set will run you more than $100 easily. Most of the people in my area have only gotten that far in, and a bunch of them want to play the CC campaign that just came out, even though each player is supposed to bring a 400 point fleet and most of them can barely manage half that.

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>>50852892
>She was on a plane too
>Just like Harrison Ford
Jesus. I hope she's okay.

>>50852930

Apparently shes stable and had CPR the whole time, so she should be fine.

>>50852706
Now you're showing you don't know shit.

That's Pablo Hidalgo. One of the four members of the LucasFilm Story Group and basically the public face for it. He is also responsible for creating a large portion of content and media for Star Wars in the past.

>>50853073
I've looked at the lore itself, not who used to, or maybe still does, oversee it, you don't necessarily need to know who wrote any of the books, although if you didn't i'd be genuinely surprised. Explain to me why someone who doesn't use twitter, rarely uses facebook, and occasionally lurks on 4chan and just generally prefers face to face human interaction to following an editor on twitter, know who he is offhand? I asked a simple question and the evident answer is that he was relevant at one point, and may or may not be anymore and why he is/was relevant. You didn't need to be rude, and project an attitude of superiority. We're all nerds here, and not all of us care about the name of every content creator and editor, ever employed by LucasArts/Film/StoryGroup. I'm sure he's legendary in his own right but I doubt more than 5% of the fanbase knows or cares who he is. So exactly what the FUCK is your problem?

>>50853180
Half of /swg/ doesn't use twitter or facebook either. But you come in here and show your ignorance of basic facts about /swg/ and bitching about being off-topic when half of its history has been Top Gear and JoJo memes, with Ace Combat and Metal Gear sprinkled in liberally.

So don't come in and bitch if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>50853230
You seem to have me confused with someone else asshole, I asked a question, either prove I'm the guy you're talking about or stow the motherfucking attitude.

Also, don't fucking act like you have no problem with off-topic shit-posting.

>>50853230
And tell me exactly how the identity of someone that likely 95% of the Star Wars fanbase knows nothing about is basic /swg/ fact?

>>50853273
/swg/ is not 95% of the Star Wars fanbase.

Your posting style is pretty much the same as the guy who came in last night bitching about stuf outside of the games not being on topic, when /swg/ is only on topic about half the time to begin with.

/swg/ has intimate familiarity with Pablo, and even made jokes about his twin Paul (who doesn't exist) because one anon accidentally called Pablo Paul.

And all it would have taken for you to figure out who Pablo was would have been to look at the filename, and five seconds of google.

But, you're just doubling down on your ignorance and stupidity.

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>>50853334
Your point? There's going to be overlap, say with someone who recently got into /tg/ related things like myself. It's also Christmas eve and I was busy before you responded and did not have time to google him. Does Pablo lurk /swg/ if not, you can't be all that intimately familiar with him in any way other than what his public posts on social media and his work on the lore. shows you. Lastly, a similar posting style means absolutely nothing, although i'm the guy who was bitching about Carrie Fisher shit-posting and ONLY that because unless she dies or recovers or someone like the writefag above who is unaware asks, it's unnecessary and depressing. You sir can kiss my ass, not everyone has been her for every event on /tg/ or /swg/, excuse me for being ignorant and busy

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>>50852487
>Roofoo

You just watch yourself, Space Cop

>>50853334
How many nerfs do I gotta herd to be a super cool thread gatekeeper like yourself?

>>50853466
Underrated.

>>50852487
Isn't it pretty clear that the pair that he's looking for are Ponda Baba and Doctor Evezan? They were into some surgical alteration stuff in the old canon as well IIRC.

>>50853645
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Roofoo
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sawkee

Interesting. It used to be their names in the Star Wars radio drama, then they were retconned to aliases in Legends. I love when they recanonize obscure little facts.

Any news on Carrie?

>>50853695
Intensive Care, Stable, Nothing new.

>>50853695
Unfortunately nothing since her brother clarified that he never said "stable condition". Last I heard, she was in the ICU.

>>50853740
Well, the clarification was he couldn't 'classify' her condition, which may not mean unstable either. Todd said he knows about as much as you guys do until she starts to recover or the docs get their shit together for some broad answers.

>>50853695
Taking bets!
How many hours till she dies?

>>50853774
GET THE FUCK OUT!, all joking aside seriously no.

>>50853774
6.

Star Citizen switched to a new game engine after 4 years of development. So for anybody hoping Chris Roberts returns to making true space fighter sims is probably going to have to wait until he's done sucking his crowdfunding backers dry.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-citizen-switches-game-engines-four-years-into/1100-6446503/

On the other hand, that EAFront X-Wing VR mission looks like a real promising proof of concept project.

>>50853774
Depends on if she's in a proper coma or what.

If she is, and she doesn't recover in the next say 30ish hours, her chance of recovery drops drastically, continuing to go down until you're under a 15% chance of even partial recovery after four months.

If she was shockable, and her heart's pumping now of it's own accord (we dunno shit), her chances are high(er).

>>50853879
>>50853774
>>50853810
And here's exactly what I was referring to earlier, depressing and cynical as fuck posts.
I know this is 4chan but we're not on /b/, edgefaggotry is discouraged and despised here.

Well I spanked it to her old shoots tonight, so hopefully that energy helps her recovery.

>>50853920
>I cant survive world if it's not only rainbows and gumdrops the post

>>50853920
>basic medical facts about CPR and comas are depressing and 'cynical as fuck'.
The window is still open. Send best wishes, fume, pray, whatever. I ain't saying hope is lost and there are a few scenarios where her chances are high; it all hinges on medical information we don't have.

>>50853986
>oversimplification of viewpoint the post
I can deal perfectly well with the world being as shit as it is. Me being a decent human being that actually wants to improve the world doesn't make me a pussy.

>>50854014
Putting your post in was a mistake man, didn't realize until after it was up.

>>50851079
I once had a jedi character in a EotE campaign pull his lightsaber out every 15 minutes. Added a lot to the campaign since I got to send inquisitors and the like after the party. Had a great moment where one of my players sniped an inquisitor with his rifle and got multiple successes and a triumph against 5 red die

>>50852487
Now we just need the Tam Posla spin off, where he's played by a growling Kurt Russel.

>>50851172

Gotcha. It's kind of its own thing, really. Like a lot of FFG creations. Combat is quick and very brutal, with many of the large ships being capable of one-shotting the small ones with even modest rolls. But ISDs and Mon Cals are themselves far from impervious, and can also be taken down surprisingly quickly.

The game is big into maneuvering your ships into ideal firing positions, while denying them to your opponent.

Also each game is different because you will always be playing one of 24 (with Corellian Campaign) objectives which can drastically change the field of battle.

>>50852882
I like it. Much funnier than the original holiday special

>>50854023
>my entire post was a mistake
ftfy.

>>50854977
No, one link in my post was, how does one link become the whole post all of a sudden? I'm pretty sure you didn't fix a single fucking thing for me anon, why did it need fixing?

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If one wants to write about Imperial Fleet doing Imperial Fleet things even after Sheev's untimely death, like hunting pirates, rogue Imperial units, and protecting interstellar trade, is there a good place to start?

>>50854977
God you're such an insufferable faggot.

>>50855173
Glad I'm not the only sane person still here, That said have a Very Merry Christmas Eve both anons and assholes

>>50855157
These should give you some decent ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQNT_Ung9I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGF_NJ9v8rw

>>50852562
But that doesn't mean that any random jedi who turns dark will become a Sith without being exposed to it beforehand. Sith is a very specific set of morals, ideas, and goals. The chances that a random fallen jedi will develop the exact same morals, ideas, and goals in isolation is slim to none.

>>50850682
find me this woman!

>>50852080
Man, an U-Wing would be the perfect choice for any AotR or EotE group, for FaD i still think any Corellian IT works wonders, because you have enough space to train.

>>50854036
How the fuck did he get every difficulty die upgraded to Challenge dice?

>>50852444
DT-29 is a revolver if we go by Dicefront

>>50855234
long enough intro there?

>>50855069
It needed fixing because you've decided that you are the god of this thread.
No talking about Carrie Fisher, No talking about Pablo. no talking about the people responsible for star wars content.

If you were just calling out the trolls, that would be one thing, but you aren't. So the fix is to not post.

>>50847280
The Rancor Pit is wonderful. But that's coming from a hardcore WEG D6er.

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Let's post more Star Destroyers!

The Victory-I class Star Destroyers were slow, but heavily armed, with eighty concussion missile tubes. That's as many as four time twenty, and that's a metric fuck ton of firepower. I suspect they were originally designed to fill the cruiser gap for the Republic-soon-to-be-Empire, to step into the shoes empty between the Venator and Acclamator classes.

Intended to be replaced by the Imperial-classes, following the eruption of the Galactic Civil War into a full-scale armed conflict, the Victory-classes were retained in service to fill the gaps left in the Imperial Fleet by Imperial-Is and -IIs on the sharp end of the stabby-implement.

>>50855684

I kinda like victory star destroyers. I liked using them with Venators in Empire At War as back up to my destroyers. Useful to plug gaps so I didnt have to have my Allegiance-class waste shots on smaller rebel ships like corvettes

>>50852080
I love how this scene was FMJ in space.

>>50855842

>"It ain't Sheev, It ain't Sheev. I ain't no Fortunate Sith"

>>50855157
Start with Sheev's death.

Rumors hit the 6th Expeditionary Line, 102nd Fleet, about 72 hours later. Your Admiral holoconferences with his captains, instructing them to gently break the news to their men - but remind them all that they're still proud members of the Imperial Navy and that they will continue their service with excellence.

Then kick the ass of any rebel scum that dares celebrate on the planets you visit.

>>50855516
The music alone is worth it. Plus they got the voice actor for Optimus Prime to read the voice over.

>>50851712
>height 5.11

>>50856139
Have one or two pleasant twists, like a large number planets staying strongly loyal and lots of folk buying the narrative of a cowardly assassination instead of a military defeat.

At the same time it's important that people feel the shift of insurrection to full-out civil war. A good moment to encapsulate this would be the first time they go up against an Alliance Star Destroyer, no ones keeps calling them the Rebels after that point.

>>50855157
You need to start before endor to make the shift come across. Before the war is going the empires way, the real issue is finding the rebels, and then getting them to stand and fight. Whenever they do, shit goes right. The only real enemy is internal bickering and boredom.
Then endor. Suddenly your supplies dry up. You gotta make deals with the devil to keep on going. Orders to recall your ships coreward, giving a clear path to the rebel. Accept, abandoning imperial citizens, or go independent. Or try to make yourself useful and find a way to stick around. Or aim straight for Coruscant and try to take the throne.

Take a look over the wikipedia on the Imperial Civil war for inspiration.
Then, turn to history.
I would suggest reading The Fall of the West, The Slow death of a Roman Superpower by adrian goldsworthy. Or just read on the wiki. Take inspiration from the fall of the western empire, focus on the infighting, then add the 20 years of anarchy from the byzantine empire. Toss in a good measure of french revolution and the afghan civil war.

And most importantly, don't forget to give DARK GREETINGS

>>50855684
They were also ugly as sin.

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>>50856317
Agreeing with this.
They just took a star destroyer, scaled it down and added some batter.
On one hand it's pretty nice that they make some more uniformal ships for the empire, but then on the other it's just a star destroyer with some tumor on the bridge and some miniature wings on the sides.

Also, empire at war best.

>>50856317
>>50856756
I like the Victory's bridge design more. Just not the side protrusions.

This is going to seem like a silly question, but how exactly do you join the rebellion? It seems quite risky finding a way to them unless you happen to be from a rebel world like the calamari

>>50856824
You start fighting. If you make enough noise without getting yourself killed and without going too far in terms of things like civilian deaths or other moral issues that the main rebel alliance has, they'll find a way to get in touch with you and make an offer.

>>50856824
More lawless/openly revolting worlds will probably have recruiters. Otherwise you are going to need to know somebody or do something/be skilled enough that they come looking for you

>>50856824
You put out feelers and hope you aren't talking to an ISB agent.

>>50856824
Start up by vandalizing some posters and escalate it into acts of terror, try to avoid civilian deaths and try to survive long enough for your local rebel cell to notice you and pick you up before you get yourself killed.
Alternatively figure out a way to communicate with them and be some sorta trained expert and offer to defect into their ranks.

>>50856849
>>50856854
>>50856856
These are relevant to each other.
Either you do stuff that makes them want to find you, or you go looking for them, but either way it's a crapshoot whether the "recruiter" you end up with is actually a rebel or an ISB agent.

A significant amount of rebels joined up with the Alliance by being part of a separate rebelling group that joined up as a whole.

>>50856824
The rebellion often does jobs of mercy around the galaxy that the Empire won't.

Lost Stars details how Wedge was on an aide mission to a planet devastated by a huge hurricane and the rebellion sent care packages for the people who the Empire ignored.

>>50856824
> It seems quite risky finding a way to them
Well yes, it is quite risky. This is a despotic, authoritarian empire we're talking about.

> unless you happen to be from a rebel world like the calamari
That is one of the main ways. Either by starting there or traveling there. A lot of rebel recruiting centers on worlds that the Empire has only nominal control over. The outer rim is full of places where people who don't like the Empire can go in order to get in touch with rebel groups on the down low. If you're on a core world, you might try to hop on a freighter heading out to the rim in order to find people who share your hatred of the Empire without having to worry as much about Imperial agents breathing down your neck.

>>50856906
>This is a despotic, authoritarian empire we're talking about.
Not just that, the rebels themselves can be pretty paranoid, and won't have mercy for anyone they think is an ISB.

>>50856139
>>50856224
>>50856294
You guys think having a totally not my self insert's waifu Emperor's Hand take over running of civilian governance for a sector after killing a Moff planning on going independent would be too much?

>>50857006
The infighting will be strong with this one.

The Imperial Hierarchy may not recognize the authority of the Emperor's Hand, and many officers may want to take them down for their own Glory.

Post RotJ/Jakku Empire must have been like Game of Thrones before the New Republic finally got control.

>>50857006
Most Emperor's Hands would have a non covert identity. An admiral, a general, a high ranking Intelligence agent, you name it. Within those roles, in addition to the access to clearance a Hand has, it is certainly possible.

Been out of the game for the last few weeks, did the U Wing or other Rogue One stuff get statted?

>>50852706
He's a fucking autist that somehow got lucky. He's the equivalent of /co/ fags going NOT CANON NOT CANON KILL ALL LEGENDS.

Fuck him.

>>50857006
Like so many things totally depends on how it's handled. If she's an interesting intimidating character then for sure. If she's totally there as waifu bait like most of the female darksiders in my games it will probably end up hokey

>>50857110
Awww anon, what did the big bad Lucas Film group do to you. Which piece of media did they make not canon to hurt your bum?

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>>50855684
Don't mind me, just posting my shipfu. The Imperious-class Star Destroyer.

/tg/, what do hanks look like? Wookiepedia describes them as yellow furred humanoids with a scowl, but that's vague. I can only really imagine them as charr from Guild Wars.

>>50857137
I don't really care about what a coalition of autists decides is canon or isn't. I'll always have my headcanon that includes what I think is the best of Star Wars. The problem is their approach to things and how they go REEEEEEEEEEEE every time someone mentions Legends materials on retweets.

>>50857164
Just love that name.
Shit, i didn't even know that was an actual word till i read it on a /co/ story time some years ago and then checked it up on google.

>>50857208
>retweets

Well there's your problem Twitter is basically cancer anon I wouldn't go there held at gunpoint

>>50857208
>headcanon
Sounds more like you're the autist here anon.

Face it, Legends is dead for the better. New Canon is re-incorporating what worked and what didn't.

>>50857262
Yeah but that's another problem. Instead of, you know, actually saying what's canon and what isn't through publishing stories, our brave band of spergs say what is and what isn't over twitter announcements.

>>50857277
I don't care about Legends, but a Galactic Empire falling within the span of a single year. Yep, sure, that makes perfect sense, nu-canon.

>>50857277
>no headcanon
>on /swg/ a site for talking about your imagination games

Wow not even really a legendsfag but you definitely came to the wrong neighborhood motherfucker

>>50857295
>Galactic Empire falling within the span of a single year
It doesn't. Imperials retreat to the core and takes longer to fall, but it does.

Doesn't help that the Empire has been in bad form for nearly a generation.

>>50857311
Legendfags are literally the worst anon (not really Mandos are the worst). I admit I was a bit harsh, but for the most part they cling to something long since past and refuse to accept new material

>>50857331
It literally does. Next you'll say 'KOTOR and SWTOR are Canon xD!' If we're going to ignore headcanon, then let's look at what's established. The Empire officially, 100% falls at the Battle of Jakku which happens 1 year and a few months after the Battle of Endor. Remnants flee to form the First Order, but the Empire is well and fully gone and the First Order doesn't claim to be the Empire, just takes after its ideology.

>>50857331
Because legends is still perfectly good and there is no law prohibiting you from using it.

>>50857331
>for the most part they cling to something long since past and refuse to accept new material

A lot like the Jedi, actually.

>>50857357
This. The Empire fell pretty quickly.

That being said, given the amount of declien and support against them, I can see why they ended up losing the war

>>50857331
Not the same anon, but, Battle of jakku takes place one year after endor. The empire is still in posession of most of the galaxy (Core to inner rim?), and yet they are somehow riven by war fatigue and surrender Coruscant for no fucking reason. The writing is just so mind blowingly stupid it's not even funny.

>>50857429
>surrender Coruscant
I'm sure the public supported liberation and they were facing economic issues that would not allow them to support it.

>>50857423
Just makes me wonder.
If empire was just so bad that it had no public support anywhere, then where did it get all its soldiers, pilots and operatives?
How come the empire didn't just dissolve with mass desertions and executions of officers?
How come no powerful admiral or moff just took control of an area and fortified it to the eleventh decree?

This is what we get for not having political scientists, military scientists nor historians writing the script, isn't it?

>>50857452

No. No writing or contrived combination of circumstances can ever possibly justify the Empire completely collapsing in only one year.

That door gunner scene was great, the U wing is a fun little ship.

>>50857423
>>50857452
Doesn't matter how many ass-pulls you say. It's the equivalent of saying a Hitler assassination attempt succeeds in like 1941 when the Nazis were literally unbeatable and Goering just goes 'okay allies, we surrender' even though the Allies are nowhere near Berlin or even Europe for that matter outside of the British Isles.

>>50857526
How good was it on a scale of Paint it black to IT AIN'T ME?

>>50857494
It was collapsing from the first year anon.

The Emperor didn't care about it and let it decline because he was lolevil.

>>50857492
They essentially brainwash you at the academy. And for most, the chance at making money for your family or just getting of your backworld planet is a chance you'll take if offered.

A lot of officers and soldiers do desert. Many of them see the atrocities post alderaan and run. Others see the brutality of the empire and turn coat. I'm sure many executions were done if they could catch anyone.

>>50850173

so did shitting in a bucket

>>50857492
>How come no powerful admiral or moff just took control of an area and fortified it to the eleventh decree?
Anoat Sector post RotJ?

>>50857569
was hitler a super powerful space wizard who controlled his subordiants though mind magic?

>>50857584
>>50857492
On the other hand, you'd also get people that viewed the Empire as the lesser of two evils, what with the whole policing interstellar trade, hunting down pirates, making sure the grain ships continued to reach city-worlds like Coruscant and Taris.

>>50857647
Exactly this, you would think that especially next to hut space there would be a demand for an over militarized super power keeping the borders in check.

>>50857569
Hitler didn't have an entire galaxy to control, actively route for his subordinates to stab each other in the back or the plus of being an evil space wizard with an apprentice who could kill rebels by the dozens.

>>50857492
even according to legends, space magic.

Storm troopers and royal guards seem oddly distant after Palp died. The cohesion of the imperial fleet collapses the instant he is killed.

Basically the empire does not work without Palp directly influencing things through the dark side. So yes, it falls apart fast when he dies.
The reason it half stays together in Legands is Ysaard is mad genius, and she was basically self destructing the entire time.
Everyone else ran off to play warlords. The empire broke up in months even in legends.

>>50857719
>Everyone else ran off to play warlords. The empire broke up in months even in legends.
Try years. A peace treaty isn't signed at least until 15 years after Endor in Legends.

>>50857745
that's how long it took for the Rebels to fully establish themselves as the official government that people could sign peace treaties with.

The warlords started breaking off long long before that.

Why else does Ysaard only have a handful of star destroyers? There were plenty more out there, but the person in charge of 'the empire' didn't have control of them.

>>50852444
E-22 is just a rifle with linked.

>>50852444
I think it;s just A300.

>>50852080
A280CFE, A300, and according to EAfront and some of the toys Jyn's A180 are all reconfigurable weapons with multiple modes.

>>50857793
Yeah, this makes sense. In Nu-Canon, the New Republic establishes itself a year after Endor and ALL of the Empire is dead within that year. No Warlords, no holdouts, no anything. All of it is D E A D except those that eventually go off to form the First Order. They flee immediately after Jakku and aren't heard of again.

>>50851275
>>50851517
>>50851543

NO.
Check THIS shit out.

>two, thats right motha fuka, TWO vy-666 in a corner one facing towards your opponent's field goal, the other facing down your parking spot going head first into first VY-666
>equip boshek on vy-666 groving down your parking lot
>force first vy-666 to never move by turning its 1 straight into a 0 stop.
> enjoy never moving and haveing two ships with 90 degree firing all game
>[The Mexican Hat Dance]

do all that other fancy shit all you want but you gotta get through me to get to me

>>50857208
Uh, Pablo doesn't REEEEEE about anything, he'll sometimes outright discus Legends stuff, after all he stared out as a WEG GM turned WEG writer.

>>50855516
>>50856155
I just don't like that they made their super special supercarrier.

>>50857745
The Empire was still losing huge blocks of space and multiple entire fleets to Warlord defection, and even some of their "Loyal" fleets needed extensive bribery to not go warlord on their own.
>>50857793
>Why else does Ysaard only have a handful of star destroyers? There were plenty more out there, but the person in charge of 'the empire' didn't have control of them.
She had more than a Handful before she ran off to play Bacta-merchant, at that point she wasn't running the main line of the empire.

Happy Life Day, nerds.

>>50858534
Happy Life Day.

On another note, are there cats in Star Wars? I imagine ship's cats on Star Destroyers would be useful for hunting vermin.

>>50858625
Lothcats

>>50858625
i dont see how you can have vermin in a star destroyer given everything is metal.

>>50857865
this was outdated last year already.

I cant wait to be in 2050 so all the "muh legend" faggot are long dead.

>>50858696
Star Destroyers are crewed by people. People need to eat. Ergo, vermin get into the crew consumables.

>>50858696
Mynocks are known to eat pretty much everything in a capital ships that isn't durasteel.

>>50858696
The same way there's vermin in modern day ships when everything is metal. Vermin find a way.

>>50858810
Given their age and weight, they'll be gone before 2030 anon, dont worry.

>>50858824
>>50858825
>>50858826

I stand corrected then.

>>50858810
Don't worry anon. Disney will have reset it by then so then you'll be the outdated dinosaur and all the cool kids will say you're a faggot. "Canon sure had a lot of stupid shit! I mean who would think stuff like Aftermath or Rebels was cool? Thank god they are taking the best stuff rebuilding from scratch"

>>50850457
>>50849054
You're forgetting bigger. Muscley, thicc, even chubby or fat, it doesen't matter, the U-Wing's a big girl compared to her fighter friends.

>>50847129
>need upgrade for dl'ing multiple files on pastebin.
the fuck is this?

>>50851627
>>50851593
>>50851583
Vader was there to investigate the High Inquisitor's death and also chase off the Rebels since he was there. On the way, he happened to stumble upon two """"""jedi"""""" who were so barely at Padawan level and who he figured probably beat Inkie out of blind luck. Then he discovers Asokha, and his priority shifts to killing her. Asokha was the actual problem-an extremely powerful rogue force user trained by one of the greatest Jedi of the old order. Once she was dead he could give two shits about the two wannabes.

>>50855522
No asshole it was only about Carrie I simply asked who Pablo was, as I didn't know who he was, and thus why he was relevant, not exactly something hard to miss when you have a life outside of 4chan and specificaly outside of /tg/ and /swg, is it? Go ahead and talk about the creators I legitimately do not care. I only said no need to talk about Carrie because it's actually depressing and its fucking Christmas dude, atheist or not it's not a time for being depressed. So you need to calm your fucking tits, actually read the post and comprehend them before you post a reply.
>>50857110
This is not exactly what I was looking for, but thank you sincerely for responding with an answer instead of judgement about my not knowing who he is.

>>50859334
>don't you guys know it's the current day
How's about that Carrie Fisher then?

>>50859225

I'd say with those spindly wings, she's more tall than heavy. Y'know, long, flexible legs. Got some power in there obviously, but also some maneuverability.

>>50855891
It's funny because that song wasn't in FMJ, or most early Vietnam movies for that matter.

>>50859376
Go ahead be an asshole, I simply thought people should have respect for someone who might very well die this christmas, I guess I was wrong, Oh well. and I'm not sure how she's doing but i'm sure nothings changed so instead of shitposting more, go to whatever hell analogue you believe in.

>>50857006
Considering the existence of both Mara Jade and Yassane Isard it's not an idea without precedent at all. Just make sure to make her cold on the outside, unbelievably determined, ruthless, and most importantly she either figuratively or literally wants to ride Sheev's necrotic dick.

>>50856139

The Empire tried to cover up the Emperor's death after Endor. In fact, everything that happened at Endor was considered a filthy rebel lie.

>>50856824

Judging by every piece of Star Wars media I've ever encountered you pretty much just fall into it.

>>50858625
Cats are currently Legends-only.

>>50859768
So are breasts

>>50859983
>Bait

>>50860001
>Something is really silly
>Must be bait

Just trying to spread Life Day cheer anon Dark Greetings to you too

>>50860099
>not recognizing the sarcasm in that one word
Actually I can't really fault you for that, I know you were being silly just had to do something before a real troll popped up.

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>>50859768
What about Loth-cats?

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/812810712443535360?lang=en Who did this?

>>50860416
far too evil, even by cat standards

>>50858810
>>50858875
>2050, will only be 80, medical science will have progressed to the point that is only a third of my lifespan.

Sorry anon, you are going to have to put up with us geezers for a long time to come.

Though, this guy got it properly right.
>>50859017