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>Fall of Cadia
Demon Primarch Curze rules when?

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wry

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>Fall of Cadia
>Prophet's return
Demon Primarch Curze rules when?

>>50832178
What book excerpt is that from?

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So, we have Archmagos Bitzbox McHuge coming up, and unless he costs like a Knight I'm buying him.

Any speculation on what his special rules might be? My bet is on a special Canticle and maybe an Orbital Strike.

This thread smells... a certain persony....

>>50832233
Looks like 450. Or maybe 295.

>>50832178
>>50832195
Cite sources or your posting literally nothing

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>>50832212
idk, but a shot of Starkiller base could move the plot of 40K pretty significantly and wiping the solar system

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>>50832178
>>50832195
>mfw Daemon Prince senpai

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Kek apexes

>>50832249
I already asked, nobody replied. So I guess it's out of context bullshit. Like a certain person does.

>>50832195
>Prophet's return
Anons, it's Lorgar, Prophet of Chaos Undivided.

>>50832262
Why when Abaddon has a ship that blows up stars and doing the same thing?

>>50832249
>>50832197
Void Stalker, third book in Soul Hunter trilogy by ADB

>>50832233
Double digit range, S 10 (or X, doesn't look like D), AP 1 or 2.

Doesn't look like One Use Only.

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>>50832262
Meh

>>50832308
It's talking about the Night Lords prophet you silly boy. Talos could see the future, he was called the prophet, he shared his father's gift...

>>50832147
What's the best way to add in Cult Mechanicus to Guard? I wanted 1-2 units of Breachers/Destroyers. Would Allied Detachment be good? Or is there a way around taking a Dominus?

>>50832341
>ADB

Okay, can safely discard it. Thanks anyway bro.

>>50832360
...I-I can dream senpai is still alive, okay?!?

>>50832341
Good stuff. You're a good one.

>>50832262
We already have blackstone fortresses.

What are some fun CSM lists that aren't WAAC but also not going to lose every game?
Same question for Sisters I guess.

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I've asked before, but does anybody have a full picture of this? Or know where it's from? Looks like Siege of Terra?

>>50832366
Only way to avoid taking Dominus is Elimination Maniple so you might as well take him.

>>50832385
Go jack off elsewhere

Want to play fluffy Red Corsairs but using a legion rules/detachment from Traitor Legions, which one's rules would be best?

I'll just take a second detachment for Huron.

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What's a fun way to roll with chaos? I'm thinking about using a bunch of terminators because they're cool

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>>50832443

>>50832454
Probably Black Legion

>>50832366
>>50832448
Though if you'd rather plow the dominus' points into the robots, elimination maniple is okay. Both the dominus and the robros are thoroughly okay.

>>50832443
Is that Dies Irae?
It says the books cover art is by Neil Roberts, so just look up his work.

>>50832474
>>50832448
Rip. Might as well just do an allied detachment. I guess I can run the Dominus with something like Pask.

>>50832385
I accept your apology in advance, for when the 8th rise as a legion again!

>>50832461

Cultist, hellbrutes and maulerfiends is what I will run for shits'n'giggles

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1850 MSU Death Guard

Would this list be fun?

+ Vectorium +

+ Chaos Warband +

Lord
> Bike, Blight nades, Sigil, Pandemic Staff

Sorc
> ML 3, Blight nades

3x Termis
> 3x Combi-Melta

2x 5 man CSM
> Combi-Melta, Melta Gun

4x 5 man CSM
> Combi-Plasma, Plasma Gun

3x 3 man Bike squad
> 2x Melta Guns

3x 5 man Havocs
> 4x Autocannons

+ Aus +

1x Spawn

Genestealers should be battle brothers with nids, come the apocalypse with necrons and daemons, and allies of convenience with everyone else.

Nids should either be immune to challenges, or automatically pass look out sir while in synapse. Lictors should be able to assault t1 after infiltrating.

Did Red Corsairs used to have unique special rules just like the legions originally did in the older CSM codex?

>>50832568
>Genestealers should be battle brothers with nids
Negative.
>,come the apocalypse with necrons and daemons, and allies of convenience with everyone else.
Absolutely.
>Nids should either be immune to challenges, or automatically pass look out sir while in synapse. Lictors should be able to assault t1 after infiltrating.
Also absolutely.

Have any of you guys ever experimented with making your own molds and casting with small amounts of resin? A friend of mine recently got a kit and turned his 2 spawn into 6, and they're honestly really nice quality. I'm probably going to be doing the same with some crisis suit sprues after the holidays. I am really, really poor . Does anybody here have any pictures of models they've cast themselves? Also, on an unrelated note, why the fuck is nobody linking the previous threads today

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>>50832443
FOUND THE FUCKER! It's Siege of Terra, yes.

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Cadia doesn't fall.

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>>50832249

>>50832637
>>50832489
Thanks guys.

I know this is an odd and possibly not answerable question, but here goes.
What kind of markings or symbolism would be common on Gue'vesa soldiers? Is there anything the Guard would have painted on shoulderpads, even after conversion? Or any symbols the Tau mark them with, regimental numbers, etc? Its hard to find this type of thing online.

>inb4 chaos star, i know im a heretic

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>>50832791
No bother.

>>50832489
>>50832637
I literally can't find any mention of Imperator Titans for Loyalists on Siege of Terra. The odd thing is, I don't know why they guard the Throne Room with just Warlords. Why not two Imperators or the other Emperor class?

>>50832822
Maybe a Sept marking? Wouldn't know.

If anything I'd kinda think they'd give them at least some Fire Warrior armor.

>>50832835
They are too big silly

>>50832553
That's a lot of MSU with no Rhinos. Take one or two big blobs, but make sure you either a) get transports or b) bring more bikers/fast stuff.

>>50832579
Nope

>>50832262
Can't Trazyn boop suns out of existence?

>>50832178
We dont need fucking emos that just mopped around all day because they were given a gift they couldn't handle

>>50832858
Yes, but he never does because it is a plot powered device.

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What's the most satisfying game you've ever played /tg/?
Pic related has to be one of my favorites. Was playing 2000pts with a GK bro. Completely stomped on him with my Guard by turn three had killed his Rhinos,his Land Raider and my Executioner was causing an absurd amount of damage to his infantry wiping them out single handed. He used one of his Dreadknights to flank around an kill my warlord Vanquisher and wipe my Chimeras out. Then charged that Dreadknight with veterans and killed it in melee and on the other side of the battlefield my Guardsmen with the help of the misfortune psychic power killed the other. He conceded that turn.

>>50832877
moped* fuck my sleep addled mind

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>>50832839
They've got the basics a Gue'vesa regiment would be issued in times of war, just cant find any symbolism, even though i know ive seen something before. Kinda like how they differentiate the Gue'la from Gue'vesa'la and Gue'vesa'ui. Im also completely unfamiliar with IG norms and imagery

>>50832233
I'm honestly most interested in what his Warlord trait will be. Hopefully something unique and fluffy.

And unique Canticle is all but confirmed. Why else would he have 2 separate Canticle blocks.

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>>50832147

Hey fellas, I'm preparing for a 3 way apocalypse match, and I'm gonna be super shitty, vindictive, and cheesy with my Thousand Sons list and am looking for suggestions and input:
War Cabal
-Daemon Prince
-Exalted Sorcerer
-Rubric Marines (5 man squad)
-Scarab Termies (5 man squad)

Rehati War Sect
-Magnus
-x9 Exalted Sorcerer

Ahriman's Exiles
-Ahriman
-x9 Exalted Sorcerers

War Coven
-x10 Exalted Sorcerers

With everyone upgraded to their maximum psyker mastery levels and no other upgrades, wargear, chaos boons, etc of any kind, that comes out to just under 7,000 points. We're playing 8,000 so I need help filling out the rest of those points.

Gonna be doing a whole lot of daemon summoning. I've got many squads of Horrors, Flamers, and Screamers with a few Lords of Change and some Heralds of Tzeentch standing by as well. By my calculations, that's 99 warp charge points with 29 shots from that Silver Tower spell the Exalted Sorcerers get.

>>50832953
>unpainted Wraithknight
He had it coming for him.

>>50832953
Acting like /tg/ actually plays games

>>50832840
>too big

Sorry, I don't understand those two words put next to each other.

t. Imperium

>>50832953
You killed a Dreadknight in melee, as guard? What in the world. How.

>>50832976
Well, you will significantly extend the length of the game via psyker-ing things. So that's pretty assholeish by itself!

>>50833034
It's not hard. I know my Dreadknights get nervous and roll 1's all over the place when shot at by lasguns or when someone affixes bayonets.

>>50832976
>99 warpcharges

One for each hour the game will last thanks to you, how poetic.

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>>50833034
>>50833052

Obviously they affixed bayonets

Still need to stat up the Inquisitor and add transports but how's this looking for a 500pt list?


Warband #1 166pts

3 Crusaders 45pts

2 Death Cult Assassins 30pts

1 Priest with Eviscerator 55pts

2 Acolytes with Flamers and Carapace armor 36pts


Warband #2 81pts

5 Acolytes with Carapace and Boltguns 45pts

2 Acolytes with Carapace and Plasmagun 36pts


Warband #2 81pts

5 Acolytes with Carapace and Boltguns 45pts

2 Acolytes with Carapace and Meltagun 36pts

>>50832976
Tzaangor warherd, just 1000 points of nothing but tzaangors

>>50833114
Sometimes I have to forget that under all the grimdark, 40k is still as bullshit High Fantasy as WHFB was. High Science Fantasy? Hm

>>50833114
I've seen conscribts buffed with that power that gives rending from divination tear down a Wraithknight in close combat.

There is very little that can't be solved by fixing bayonets

>>50832443
The Binary Succession. HH audiodrama.
No Siege, just loyalist Mechanicum feels bad about how they are treated and decide to do something about it.
>>50832489
>>50832637
For fuck sake can you just check something instead of guessing?

I can't decide between GSC or CSM for my first army.

GSC is probably better, and more fun to play from what I've read, but fluff wise I like CSM a tad better.

What attracts me to both of the faith they both have in their fluff. I like the idea of an army of religious zealots.

The only imperial army that speaks to me are SoB. But they look completely unfun to play, and their future support is unknown.

>>50833200
CSM are definitely cheaper if that is a relevant consideration. The new Legion rules are really neat. I'd go with them, even though I adore GSC and play them myself.

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>>50833034
Used the Misfortune power which made all attacks against it Rending.
Feels good anon.

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>>50832953
I can't remember my most satisfying game, but I finished my first HoR campaign tonight.
Marines vs Chaos Marines. In the end, it came down to a Sternguard and 2 Assault Troopers vs 10 cultists who has survived until the end by hiding in a crater before moving into a shelled out building. I asked my opponent afterwards why he went for the building and he was hoping the confined space would give his melee guys an advantage.

My Sternguard had Firing Charge, Furious Charge and Hammer of Wrath.

My Assault Troopers had Furious Charge, Combat Finesse and Lightning Assault.

I won the game by having my Sternguard jump through the hole in the ceiling from an adjacent building, he came in feet first, snapped off two shots killing two cultists by the door (not pictured) and redirected his charge into two other cultists. He was hit by one snapshot but his armour caught it.

The Assault Troopers came in through the two right hand windows (not pictured), scoring two more kills with bolt pistols before charging into two cultists each. Hammer of Wrath took out one and conventional melee did the rest with one kill going toward Combat Finesse.

10 Khorne Cultists taken out with 3 men. Feels good.

Can't wait to start a new campaign.

>>50833200
Night Lords can
Curze is getting rules and a model soon
>Fall of Cadia

what's the best way to outfit and use a hellrain brigade?

>>50833234
>Curze is getting rules and a model soon
[citation needed]

>>50833200
>future support is unknown
They're literally getting the first update they've ever had in decades. That's as far from Unknown as it gets.

>religious zealots
So basically all of the Imperium, as well. It depends on how you play them.

F O R G E

T H A T

N A R R A T I V E

>>50833182
I know there are mentions of Imperators fighting loyalists. But they usually die stupidly (Word Bearers can't hurt it, but somehow breach the titan itself and attack it's insides, killing it. Another one gets killed by the old Slaanesh HellKnights. Remember them? Like 100 of them. Another one got wrecked by like 100 Bio Titans, explosion raped everything in a 1k radius.

>>50833239
CCS with Plasma or Meltas
5man Scion Squad with Meltas
Taurox with Autocannon and Missile launcher
Naked Commissar to attach to a backfield unit to protect him.

>>50833234
Look. Nobody is getting a model soon. Even the rumours of Abaddon and Luther getting a model are bullshit until we see them.

The rumour mill states first 6 months have a loyalist Primarch return, assumed to be The Lion. No mention of another Primarch. Though Daemon Primachs are probably coming.

>>50832976
definitely bring in the horrors. i'd say throw in some tzangors if you have any. upgrade your marines a bit assuming you have the resources available to model them.

>>50833127
>giving BS 3 acolytes anything special

Are you taking this with Imperial Agents or Inquisition?

In either case, I'd probably recommend an allied detachment of Scions as your Stormtroopers. They're really good at hogging special weapons around.

Acolytes are good at being 5 point bolter hogs, but not much else. Armor isn't worth it, even at the lower cost in C:IA (lol, new Inquisition book is CIA). They should be sitting in 4+ cover at all times anyways.

If you're taking a Priest, you also might as well take an Ecclesiarchy Battle Congregation. Don't give him an Eviscerator, it'll be wasted on the units that the Death Cult can kill. Power Sword at most (he can Smash if you really need to).

At 500 points it shouldn't be TOO hard to get into combat. A Rhino wouldn't be a bad option just to close some distance and disembark in ruins.

>>50833233
>Sternguard jump through the hole in the ceiling from an adjacent building, he came in feet first, snapped off two shots killing two cultists by the door
>Assault Troopers came in through the two right hand windows, scoring two more kills with bolt pistols before charging into two cultists each
This is why I pretty much exclusively play HoR Kill Team now. Nice job anon.

>>50833200

CSM is the safest bet as they are one of the major factions. However they have a lackluster track history in terms of rules, but at least you know you will get updates and models.

SoB are getting an update but it may end up like DE where they had one glorious plastic update then just sort of die off.

GSC may not get support any time soon and stay the way they are forever, just like MT and Harlequins. They are not a safe bet and should only be played by people who have a primary dedication to Genestealers.

>>50833244

Its coming in February

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>>50833200
>I like religious zealots
>I like CSM

JOIN US BROTHER

>>50833283
Nah first loyalist primach coming is obvious Sanguinius ;_; GW pls.

>>50833246
Is the sisters update confirmed? All I've seen is a Celestine model.

Updating sisters after just printing their old codex would be strange.

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So what can I add to this that's fluffy, /tg/? Don't care about good/bad.

>>50832443
>>50832489
>>50832637
This is loyalist titan from Legio Ignatum. So no siege.

>>50833347
How do you play them? Summoning?

>>50833200
Word Bearers!

>>50833308
Planning on running guard next. Might try to homebrew the Tanith 1st. Glad you liked my victory move.

>>50833375
>plasma
>on blob squads

forwhatpurpose.jpg

>>50833341
That's not a citation

>>50833375
YOU HAVE NO SWORD BRETHREN

ADD THEM NOW.

THIS ARMY IS NOT AT ALL CHOPPY ENOUGH

WHY DO YOUR INITIATES HAVE POWER WEAPONS. THATS SO USELESSLY BIZARRE

>>50833410
BECAUSE THE BUILDER DOESN'T HAVE THEM

AND BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO BE CHOPPY, THEY NEEDED MORE CHOPPY, SO POWER WEAPONS INSTEAD OF A SPECIAL/HEAVY.

>>50833368
You must have returned to 40k recently. We now live in an age where codexes have been updated within a year, in favor of old, outdated ones that need much errata to even function

What's a solid 1500 blood angel list? I'm thinking about spending some money looking to see what's worth buying

>>50833368
The update isn't confirmed but let the SoB fans think what they want.

>>50833424
HOW DO YOU INTEND TO CHOP THINGS WITH ALL THOSE NEOPHYTES IF YOU CAN'T CHARGE BECAUSE YOU SHOT PLASMA???

>>50832437
pls respond

>>50833424
THEN DONT YOU THE FRICKIN BUILDER JUST MAKE IT MANUALLY YOU DENSE FUCK

PUTTING GODDAMN USELESS WEAPONS ISNT THE TEMPLAR WAY. GO BACK TO MELTAS.

HELL YOU COULD EVEN GRAB IN SOME SISTERS OF BATTLE. THEY LOOK LIKE THEY COULD OUT CHOP THIS ARMY ANYWAY. UGH.

>>50833440
I think the idea is to have one die to gets hot! and then have RAGE for the rest of the unit

>>50833466
Even if he kills himself you can't charge that turn

>>50833466
BUT HE CAN'T CHARGE EVEN IF HE GETS HOT

HE SHOULD JUST TAKE KARAMAZOV AND SACRIFICE A NEOPHYTE EACH TURN TO THE HOLY LIGHT OF ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT

Why is this place so loud?

>>50833485
SOMEONE IS PLAYING BLACK TEMPLARS INCORRECTLY. THEY ARE LITERALLY THE EASIEST CHAPTER TO GET RIGHT.

>>50832147
Am I am asshole?

Craftworlds Eldar 1850 Bikers

Avenger Shrine
>3 Units of Dire Avengers
Avenger Shrine
>3 Units of Dire Avengers
Avenger Shrine
>3 Units of Dire Avengers

Aspect Host
>3 Units of Shining Spears: Exarch, Star Lance
Aspect Host
>3 Units of Shining Spears: Exarch, Star Lance

Combined Arms Detachment
>Autarch: Jetbike, Star Lance
>4 Units of Windriders: 4 Windriders
>4 Units of Windriders: Shuriken Cannons

Either I get smashed or I jump out of Line of Sight

>>50833496
>playing Eldar at all

Yup you're one motherfucker of an asshole alright.

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okay i want to take this list up to 1850pts any idea what i can do to improve it?

>>50833493
>>50833475
>>50833465
>>50833440
>>50833410
>>50833392

So should I just replace plasma/power weapons for melta and make everything choppy then?

The dreads alright?

>>50833513
More librarians, because that's all anyone runs BA for any more.

>>50833485
>Noise Marines
>loud
>Slaanesh
>sexual deviancy
>4chan
>sexual deviancy

That's why.

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Have you ever played a game of warhammer with a girl?
What was it like

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>>50832233

>>50833496
>Am I am asshole?
>No wraith spam
No you aren't.

>>50833368

I'll spell out for you why you're a fucking retard.

1. It's not just Celestine, there are Seraphim models.
2. Imperial Agents doesn't have Celestine. Why would they make Celestine then?
3. Since when have they ever released one or two small plastic updates and then not shown the rest of the line the following months? They have done this DOZENS of times for the past releases, with GSC, with Deathwatch, with everyone.

>>50833587
Those aren't Seraphim, those are a special pair that comes with Celestine, in the same box.

>>50833529
Ven Dreads are kinda bad for the cost, especially with stock MM/Fist. Ironclads are a little more expensive but also scarier to drop in.

>>50833356
No thanks. Forge World sculptors for the Primarchs face are AWFUL. Sanguinius is going to be ugly as fucking sin. I'm dreading seeing an awful model. Fuck it hurts just thinking about it.

>>50833603
Brace yourself. You're wrong, but, you know.

>>50833568
Not any different than all the other games I had.

Though during the traditional post game handshake I couldn't help but notice her hand was extremely sweaty. I was under the impression only guys had that (mine get very sweaty with warm weather)

>>50833513
2 inferno pistols on the assault sarge seems like a lot. If you have nowhere else to put the points, fine, but... between both squads that's 60. Quite a lot for 4 half-range melta shots, especially when you have 2 meltas already and could just take bombs or a combi-melta.

>>50832623
Is this kind of discussion considered taboo around here, or have none of you ever tried to make your own models?

1 captain
30 tactical marines
6 razorbacks
4 honor guard
1 land raider
1 predator
2 vindicators


2000 POINTS


HQ (135 points)
Captain - 90 points
bolt pistol - 0 points
relic blade - 25 points
artificer armor - 20 points
iron halo - 0 points
frag & krak grenades - 0 points
total - 135 points


TROOPS (1080 points)
Tactical Marines x 5 - 70 points
bolt pistol x 5 - 0 points
boltgun x 3 - 0 points
heavy bolter x 1 - 10 points
power sword x 1 - 15 points
power armor x 5 - 0 points
frag & krak grenades x 5 - 0 points
Razorback - 55 points
twin-linked lascannon - 20 points
storm bolter - 5 points
dozer blade - 5 points
searchlight - 0 points
smoke launchers - 0 points
total - 180 points


ELITE (400 points)
Honor Guard x 4 - 110 points
bolt pistol x 4 - 0 points
relic blade x 4 - 40 points
artificer armor x 4 - 0 points
frag & krak grenades x 4 - 0 points
Land Raider - 250 points
twin-linked heavy bolter - 0 points
twin-linked lascannons x 2 - 0 points
power of the machine spirit - 0 points
searchlight - 0 points
smoke launchers - 0 points
total - 400 points


FAST ATTACK (000 points)


HEAVY SUPPORT (385 points)
Predator - 60 points
side-sponson heavy bolter x 2 - 20 points
twin-linked lascannon - 40 points
dozer blade - 5 points
searchlight - 0 points
smoke launchers - 0 points
total - 125 points

Vindicator - 120 points
demolisher cannon - 0 points
storm bolter - 5 points
dozer blade - 5 points
searchlight - 0 points
smoke launchers - 0 points
total - 130 points

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>>50833690

This is a weird ass layout anon.

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>>50833690
fix your format you grott

>>50833690
>that formatting

I guess list threads (sadly) aren't really a thing anymore, but even still don't post every single upgrade NOT taken and the point costs, that's just excessive.

Looks like a decent enough list though, fluffy but not particularly powerful (or good) at anything. You're criminally under using your resources for a SM army at 2k points

>>50833668
I put it on there because he isnt doing much else in a suicide melta squad.

>>50833658
>Brace yourself. You're wrong, but, you know.

They said so on the GW stream, mate. They're called the Gemini.

I am hoping for more Sisters though.

>>50833802
No, you misunderstand. I know those two twins are her bodyguards. But the art they showed on the stream had flying SoB behind Celestine. They were blacked out silhouettes.

That's what he's talking about. They were Seraphim models they didn't want leaked yet, so the art had them blacked out. Somebody will have the picture, because I don't.

>>50833802
I suspect a somewhat similiar approach as what we saw with Genestealer cults : some semi-standalone release to 'test the waters' and find out if there might be enough interest for a more complete release. Then a slow expansion upon that.

>>50833496
>Craftworlds Eldar 1850 """Bikers"""
>45-90 Dire Avengers

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Dumb /k/ommando here, what do I get as a Christmas present for a 6'4 200 pound Hispanic who like the Imperial fists and Space marines?

>>50833690
You shouldn't list out things that are default on the unit. We don't need to be told that your captain has grenades, assume that we already know. You also don't need to tell us the cost of each upgrade, only the total.

You should ideally compress the unit plus upgrades into a single line. For example, your captain would be something along the lines of:
Captain (Relic Blade, Artificer Armour) - 135pts

Your exact formatting of that info doesn't matter, but just present only the info we need and make it easily readable.

>>50833868
Build a wall around his house

>>50833868
Hispanic huh ?

Pedro Kantor :^)

Jokes aside, probably a small box of dudes or something like a Chaplain, Librarian, or one of the Imperial Guards officers

>>50833894

Don't be stupid, make him build the wall.

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>>50833690

Apologies. I'm new to this. Hope this is better.

>>50833894
>>50833916

But he voted for Trump, twice.

>>50833868
Pedro Kantor, Darnath Lysander.

But since those are characters, it's likely that he might already have them, so why not a box of tacticals? Or if you've $150/$localpricing you could get him Burning of Prospero or Betrayal at Calth box sets, maybe?

>>50833942
It also applies because it's what Dorn would want him to do

>>50833942
The joke is that Imperial Fists love walls and fortifications.

>>50833868
Bolter

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>>50833037
>>50833059

Glad you guys like it, this is part of what I'm going for. Any other ideas?

>>50833130

Don't have any Tzaangor models unfortunately. One of the few things I'm short on.

>>50833299

I've got extra Rubric Marines and bits in spades, think I should beef them up/add more? I was thinking of just adding some upgrades to my Exalted Sorcerers, maybe put them all on discs, but that seems kind of wasteful since after they pop the Silver Tower blast most of them are just gonna get possessed by Lords of Change anyway. Plus by adding in more Rubric Marines that gives them more bodies to replace with Heralds of Tzeentch.

>>50832982

You... don't want to see that anon's paint job.

>>50832315
??? If abbadon had something that can fire System explosing splittinf beam from lightyears away and isnt using it he is as armless as the meme say he is.

>>50833868
Do you know what he has already got?

>>50833868
cant go wrong with tactical marines

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>>50832953
Ran an all drop pod list vs my tau buddy and got second turn. he basically deployed and then just said go so I began to roll to see how much shit came on and ended up getting my entire army. Everything hit the ground at the same time, point blank shooting broke out with orbital strikes and stormsurges lighting up the field. I dropped my shit within 6 inches of all his shit so he decided to charge me instead of giving me another shooting phase. even with the charge I slaughtered all of his troops in melee then swept into his armour/big guys. by my turn 3 we were both pretty much wiped out but he ended up clutching with a unit of pirahnas that I couldnt catch, and 1 big guy (I think it was a riptide) that I couldnt finish off. we had amon amarth blasting the whole time.

afterwards we recapped the battle and both pictured the tau army walking through a quiet storm, the storm picks up and lightning cracks the sky as the marines drop down, intense destruction ensues and the storm dies as quickly as it came, leaving nothing but the remnants of two shattered armies. It was fucking epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs11VoDJU2I

>>50833868
Dreadnought
Tactical marines

First list for a new player. Black Templars 750 points.

Chaplain
Crusader Squad
- 4x Initiates w/ Power Axe & Flamer
- Sword Brother w/ Combi-Flamer & Meltabombs
- Razorback w/ TL Lascannon

Crusader Squad
- 5x Initiates - w/ 1 Lascannon

Scout Squad
- 3x Sniper Rifles, 1 Missile Launcher
- Sergeant w/ Sniper Rifle

Land Speeder w/ Heavy Flamer & Multi-Melta

Devastater Squad
- 4x Lascannons

Thunderfire Cannon

>>50833356
I want to believe

>>50834118
use the list builder in the op

>>50834072
>>50834112
Or Devastators, seeing as it's an IF player

>>50833868
What's probably most important to know is how much you're willing to spend, because plastic crack can be super expensive.

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So with this new Imperial Agents shit, can I finally make the Inquisition army of my dreams from the days of olde?

Pic very related, loved the art from the old Witch Hunters and Daemonhunters books...

I'm hoping this new Celestine is like a stand-alone HQ that could be taken as an ally in other armies.

>>50833283
>>50833356
>>50834132
>implying bobby g won't be the first primarch back
It's been foretold since second edition. Look into your hearts, you know it to be true

>>50834151
No Celestine or Kaldor Draigo, but yes.

>>50834151
Pretty much, yeah. For each individual army their own codex is way better, but the Inquisition book is a great way to bring Sisters, GK, Inquisitors, and (of course) space orangutans in one nice, fluffy package. The formations are pretty silly, so that's fun too

>>50834150
Around 150$, dude has been good with me for this past year.

Though for anyone else who responded, he was a small but growing collection of space marines. So I was look at buying him a few marines+dreadnought and a Pedro for shits and giggles. Any other ideas?

>>50834151
The Inquisitor Warband and the Preist Warbands are pretty great. There are formations where you can really loadout up on everything. I'm excited to load up my Inquisitor Warband into whatever Land Raider can hold 16 models so I can rush in with 10 Deathcults, 3 Flamers, a Priest and the Inquisitor.

It's like a 500 something point hard hitting death star that isn't worth the points at all. So hyped because that is exactly the kind of unit I made back in the Witch Hunter days.

>>50834206
Buy some fortifications. No self respecting IF player would turn down fortifications.

And even if he doesn't want to include it in lists, it makes for a nice painting piece and terrain feature.

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About to dig into this series. Really liking this Drakan Vangorich dude, seems like a complex character.

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Just starting out w/ Black Templars. Any suggestions?

>>50834230
where'd you download

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>>50834184

That's why I'm hoping Celestine can be allied in too. Her leading a force of Inquisition...

I'm getting a semi just thinking about it. I love all the conversion potential there.

>>50834195
>>50834224

You guys totally get what I'm looking to make. Any loadouts looking particularly nasty? I play at low levels, like 500-1000. I heard someone came up with a combo of running a Priest near a Daemonhost to give him Armourbane and Fleshbane because of the Daemon keyword? Something like that?

>>50833531
but anon... I only run Death Company

>>50829665
Aw man, GSC is my fukken JAM.

Shadow Over Innsmouth: The Army is 100% GO. A friend gave me her Flyrant & a Mawloc so I can have the Unknowable Hunger From Beyond show up on TT & begin wiping the planet clean for the return of its True Masters, the Great Old Ones.

I also drum up a little Lovecraftian blurb about whatever model or unit I most recently finished when I post on my local group. Tons of fun.

I also have a renewed hatred of Cruddace, who ought to DIAF for what he's done to Tyranids. Also, FUCK Nids having ZERO D-WEAPONS even after spending 2-3 times as much as other factions for their Super-Heavies. Also, "Agile" is a shit rule unless your group allows the Hierodule to charge after running/shooting.

>>50834319
She's still usable as part of a SoB detachment, regardless, so you could just ally her in.

>>50834206
Tacs, $40, Venerable Dreadnought, $40, Pedro, $22. Could maybe through in an Aegis Defense line or a couple rhinos?

This is all going off of memory, the Dreadnought's probably more expensive than that, maybe around $7-$10.

You could buy him a Betrayal at Calth box set, if he needs more marines and isn't planning on giving them Grav-guns. It gives him a crappy mono-pose Contemptor with a multi-melta or Kheres Assault Cannon, and 3 tac squads and a Cataphractii termi squad, as well as two characters.

>>50834348
>her
And the meme proves true once more.

Is there really a point to Dark Apostles other than the formations he's included in? He kinda seems like a strictly worse Lord who costs more points

i have a sixty dollar gw giftcard. how do i not aste it?

>>50834411
Hobby Tools.

>>50834408
They're supposed to be Chaos Chaplains that are exclusive to the Word Bearers. Of coure, they're not exclusive to them rules-wise, but iirc, fluff-wise they originally were, at least, since all the traitor legions killed their chaplains except the WB.

>>50834411
Well, what army do you play, Malal?

>>50833568
At a tournament, the TO's wife was a total bitch with her Eldar--he told her so, even.

I tend to demolish my wife regardless of what army she plays, except a few great games she ran with DE.

A friend tends to lose with her CSM, but her girlfriend tears us up with Knights, Deathwatch, & SM.

Women aren't mysterious monsters. Grow up, manchildren.

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Trying to get used to msu with the Emperor's Children force I'm starting. This is what I can put together if my FLGS still has the battleforce in stock.

>>50834311

follow the links in the OP of this very thread

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>>50834443
And here's what I have if I have to settle for the Start Collecting box. Might be able to throw in a Rhino.

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>>50834442
>mfw Space 0din knows grils who play Warhammer
>I still don't even have a FLGS within 90 miles of me or friends who are interested in 40k
>or friends

>>50834442
>Grow up, manchildren
>implying it's not an ironic meme because /tg/ knows full well we're a bunch of spergs
Do you have any idea where you are?

Mid-thread reminder that Curze is alive as a Demon Primarch, and returning with the Fall of Cadia
>>50832178
>>50832195

>>50834495
Curze literally An Heroed himself. He'd hate to be a Daemon Prince.

>>50834515
That is unfortunate for him then

In another age of copy rights he would be a DP of Malal

>>50834469
M8, just get on with having a life. The rest of stuff just falls in line. Don't get too specific with the hobb pay around normies--just say you build & paint models, or that you play a sort of "super-chess" if they want more specifics.

Check FB its cancer, I know--but it may work for play groups and such.

Run, stretch, & lift. Volunteer locally, if you can. Once you get into a group, you can network more from there.

>>50834425
which ones are good?

>>50834433
no specific army but i lean imperial. though thanks to box sets i'm full up on spacemarines. I also have a fondness for alpha legion/chaos, and the mining suits of gsc. The thought of conversions gets my motor running,

>>50834526
I did this recently in Melbourne, worked very well! (The FB thing)

>>50834469
That's an adorable seal.

Also, anons, how do I make a Khornate IW scheme? I want them to be a warband originating from IW, but I'm trying to figure out what I want to do. I was thinking of vrass armor, but then I couldn't do brass trim. Hmmm...

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>>50832178
>his soul had rotten away

wait, what? souls can rot? that's horrifying

>>50833568
Yeah she played mechanicum her bf played Harlequins. Me and my Grey Knight bro(who got tabled turn three) managed to pull out a victory. Like other anons said it really isn't that different.

>>50834540
Don't buy Hobby Tools from GW; super overpriced compared to other Brand Tools.

>>50834557
Play Dark Souls, and all will be revealed.

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>>50834573
my nigga

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Is it worth buying old hardbook rulebooks just to read the fluff?

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>>50834579
SPOOKY

>>50834495

Fuck. I don't know if my wallet can take this, guys.

>Played SoB since 4th
>legit case for plastics soon
>started Night Lords for fun
>Batman might be coming back

Fuck. Why can't I take an unmarked Prince?

>>50834540
Well, I'm afraid I can't help you until you declare an army! Them's the rules anon, sorry.

>>50834590
No. Just use lexicanum, it covers all that basic stuff in there.

>>50834595
I really don't get why people think Curze would come back? He killed himself/assisted suicided to an assassin.

>>50834618
i could see the dark gods doing it for shits and giggles

>>50834493
>it's a shitty namefag who hasn't even been on the board for more than a few years

What do you think.

>>50834618

There's reason for doubt. He was alone except for the assassin, and the only real proof is a static filled vid.

Also >>50834622

He hated chaos and scorned Lorgar after he saved him from Shrike when he saw the possessed. It really would be a cruel joke to keep him alive. However, I can TOTALLY see Belakor keeping him alive and making him a Prince to fuck over Abbadon AND the Imperium.

>>50834663
>There are no other undivided princes except be'lasnore
How do we explain Lorgar and Pert?

I'd be fine with a major retcon like this provided FW covers it well in 30K. FW always does things right, no matter how many autists get upset that they give high gothic names to things like Space Sharks.

>>50833300
Haven't gotten my hands on C: Imperial Agents so I'm just going off of C: Inquisition at the moment.

>Reccomends just using scions
>Just spent a week making Acolytes out of GSCultist legs, Empire Greatsword bodies/heads and Imperial guard Lasgun arms that I converted into bolters
>fml

I guess that the Ecclesiarchy Battle Congregation is something from C:IA? I really need to get around to grabbing that.

Honestly the armor is to use up points and make up for the lowish ammount of units I'll be packing. Was hoping to just stay with the one Codex without branching out to detachments.

Thanks for the rest of your advice though man.

>>50834679
Din't bother with the armor upgrades just give them a bolter for 1 pt and stick them in cover

>>50834669

In this case, I see Belakor because they're actually kinda similar, and I think Belakor could more or less persuade Batman by offering him the ability to fight against both the gods and the imperium.

Also, yes. I would love an undivided Prince for my NL, but I have to got with Nurgle because he brings great despair because I don't want to Tzeentch cheese.

Wondering what I should add to get to 2000. I can go with the cyclopia cabal or a daemon Prince. Any thoughts?

1539/2000
*The Purge*

+ HQ +
Renegade Command Squad 5 Disciple w/ 1 x Plasma Gun, Command Vox Net
Arch Demagogue Covenant of Nurgle, Ordnance Tyrant, Warlord

+ Elites +
Renegade Chaos Spawn
Renegade Chaos Spawn
Renegade Chaos Spawn
Renegade Heavy Ordnance Battery: Earthshaker Cannon
Renegade Heavy Ordnance Battery: Earthshaker Cannon

+ Troops +
20x Plague Zombie
20x Plague Zombie
Renegade Field Artillery Battery: 2 x Heavy Quad Launcher
Renegade Field Artillery Battery: 2 x Heavy Quad Launcher
Renegade Field Artillery Battery: 2 x Heavy Mortar

+ Heavy Support +
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: Militia Training, 3 x Rapiers with extra crew
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: Militia Training, 3 x Rapiers with extra crew

*Rapture Battalion *
+ Core +
Kakophoni
Chaos Lord: Bike, Intoxicating Elixer, Lightning Claw, Mark of Slaanesh, Power Fist, Sigil of corruption,
Noise Marines: 3 Sonic Blasters, 1 Blastmaster
Noise Marines: 3 Sonic Blasters, 1 Blastmaster
Noise Marines: 3 Sonic Blasters, 1 Blastmaster

+ Auxiliary +
Spawn
Chaos Spawn: Mark of Slaanesh, 3x Spawn

>>50834669
They became spawn

>>50834618
Because there is evidence in ADB's books

>>50834713
Could you max out the Rapture Battalion?

>>50834715
>>50834712
>>50834669

Incoming retcon of there being no chaos undivided

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>>50834769

>Belakor ever being Ret conned

>>50833233
What's firing charge?

>>50834679
Well if you're just in Codex Inquisition you'll be alright without the Battle Congregation. The only real benefit is that Arco-Flagellants are cheaper in IA (i think) and get a 6++ in the EBC.

But it does make the EBC all one unit, so you can have a full wall of Crusaders tanking for the blender girls or drug addicts.

Bolter Acolytes are fine, take a unit of a few of them to camp an objective or smth. They just aren't versatile.

P.S. you can pirate the codices from the mega at the top.

>>50834590
If you can get it for like $5-10, sure.

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An 1845 point version of my above list. The Chapter Champion should have a relic blade (army list builder won't allow it).

Feedback appreciated.

Is there an option to take anything akin to inquisitorial stormtroopers, or is allying in scions your only bet?

I don't like acolytes being only BS3 or I'd kit them out with all the gear.

>>50834669
GW quality writing.

>>50834830
so you're only anti tank is a landraider, chaptermaster's bombardment, and 2 predators with heavy bolter sponsons? why aren't you doing imperial fists for their bolter fetish?

you need some serious anti tank and maybe some larger squads since 5 marines with a razorback are snacks to any serious threats

>>50834830
Honor Guard will smash up MEQ if they can get into combat... IF. Stormraven would be better than land raider. Could get you some anti-air depending on if you use DFtS.

Get a Gladius, get free Razorbacks.

>>50834872

All 6 of the razorbacks have twin-linked lascannons.

>>50834858
Since Inquisitorial Stormtroopers couldn't deepstrike and were stuck with hellguns, IG veterans are going to be the closest analogue you can find. Gets you access to a third special weapon and heavy flamers, as well as the chimera as the dedicated metal box (which is the best metal box).

If you want the hotshots and deepstriking? allied scions. Which is what you had to do if you wanted infiltrating/deep striking stormtroopers in the old DH/WH days.

Imperial armies are kind of spoiled for choice.

>>50834900
ya know what? i only glanced at the picture and didn't bother to read the text. ya might stand a chance then

Would possessed be usable in their formation of they ride in Dread Claws from a CAD? It shouldn't be hard to get a flying DP into position with them.

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>>50832147
>https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

On this site when making a Tau you can give Missile Drones to any model that can take drones, but it's my understanding that only Broadsides can take those drones.

Is that accurate or can any take them?

>>50833868
You have three options here. The boring option, the fun option, and the oh shit nigga why are you the best friend ever option.

Boring:
Buy him a dreadnought, a box of tactical marines, or something similar that he doesn't have.

Fun:
Buy him a box of tactical marines, and an iron warriors upgrade kit. Wrap them separately. Sign the tag for the upgrade kit "From the Greatest Siege Primarch"

Oh shit nigga why are you the best friend ever:
Do the Fun option above. Spend the next six months putting together a chaos space marines iron warriors army without his knowledge. Paint and base it well. One day, tell him to meet you at a local gaming store, and to bring 1500 points of his imperial fists. Challenge him to a game for his honor.

>>50834984
Read the codex you stupid fuckboy

>>50834984

No it's not fucking accurate I don't know why you faggots keep posting it and defending its use. It's a piece of shit.

>>50835002
i think its a great tool because it requires you to actually read the codex to know what you can and can't take.

>>50834984
That's just a way to play around with points and easily print out a list, not a tutorial. Don't use it if you're new.

What are some good choices to beat a BT list as SW? My competition has a few dreads and his melee units tear my shit up in close combat everytime.

>>50835049
I mean it even says in the help section that it doesn't have any restrictions when it comes to upgrades so you have to read your codex. Can people not read anymore?

How many drop pods is too many to have?
I currently have 4 built, 2 in box, and I'm buying another from a friend.

All unpainted :(

>>50835123
Do you read the ToS every time you update you iPhone.
Yeah, we know you are an apple user.

>>50835143
its a different situation between read ToS and clicking a FAQ to use a website.

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>>50835045
>>50835002
>>50834996

I'm a poorfag that's only able to get a hold of janky PDFs that are full of errors. My copy of the Farsight book straight up says that I can't take Tau Empire Signature Systems.

Please be nice to me.

>>50834978
Probably. It's a 100(X) tax for every unit of possessed and they're still, well, possessed. Guess you could crimson slaughter?

>>50835188
Check the OP for some nice epubs. You can use readium to read them if you're on chrome.

>>50834713
Add a CAD to the rapture battalion? Sorcerer on bike to amplify, 20 cultists and a bike retinue for lord and sorc.

>>50835140
Any amount of unpainted drop pods is too many anon, get to it.

>>50834978
dreadclaws automatically make everything unusable, so im guessing no? 100p for a turn 2 assault, might as well start in a rhino since that wont eat your models or mishap into nothingness with your 300p.

>>50835269
Im slowly getting around to finishing my first. I just find them infinitely more tedious to paint. Ive also just started not putting the harnesses in.

>>50835282
You could always go the quick and dirty route and glue the doors shut

>>50835188
>My copy of the Farsight book straight up says that I can't take Tau Empire Signature Systems.

This was accurate at the time. I forget which but either GW changed this in an FAQ or they released some new Tau stuff that overwrites this, probably Mont'ka or something. It's a problem with GW's current multi-book rules system. People who bought Farsight Enclaves in real life also have this same problem.

>>50835208
>>50834978
Actually with a delivery even normal mutations are good. Proxy it and try it. Post results.

>>50835188
>wasting money on GW books

I have a full non-recast FW army and I still don't buy books. Waste of money with how short they last now.

>>50835291
Anyone who glues the doors shut can bite me.

>>50835282
glue the doors, buy a whatever base citadel spray and then just highlight them. will take an hour tops.

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Does anyone have the picture of SoB terminator armor, I need it for specific purposes.

>>50835291
But what if I like flapping the doors down?

>>50835311
Unfortunately Celestra Gray isnt a spray.

>>50835273

Dress Claws can't eat things at the start of the game because they're in reserve.

Also
>not dropping safely and turbo boosting

>>50835298

That's what I was thinking, too. I might give it a go.

>>50835316
It's the quick and dirty route for a reason

Otherwise you could try spraypainting the whole thing in your chapter's colours, then just pick out the metals, black for the seats/the ramp on the doors, and drybrush the whole thing appropriately.

>>50835315
I attached all the canon pictures of SoB in termie armour for you.

>>50832344
There is no pissed off C'tan aboard Starkiller, anon.

This means the marines lose.

>>50835322
>Dress Claws can't eat things at the start of the game because they're in reserve.

yea, nah, thats not how it works. Good for you if your friends let you play like that

>Fall of Cadia
>Primarchs return, SM Legions return, doing their expected things except for a few
>Girlyman to break his own Codex Astartes by uniting all his successor chaptors together thus making the point of the Codex Astartes pointless.
>Curze returns in his demon form, the form of murder being made real/literal, 8th legion,reforms spreading murder and hate through the galaxy
>Some Primarchs break from the Imperium hating what it has become, making for some new factions

OR

>GW waste the opportunity, have Cadia die, and not much else happens.

I was lead to believe, that there's a traitor legion codex in the OP. Am I unable to use the internet properly, or there never was one?

>>50835454
What happened with Warzone Fenris? I think that might answer it

Why do tactical marines suck?

And why do Grey Hunters and Chaos Marines get the option of buying CCWs?

>>50835467
Yeah that does answer it.
The answer is The Fall of Cadia.
It is setting up bigger things, but where does the setting up end.

>>50832147

Am I insane or does Readium not have a zoom in/out option?

>>50835482
Did the TS do anything in Fenris, I didn't see much of lore progression mentioned?

>>50835478
>Why do tactical marines suck?
because of power creep.
>And why do Grey Hunters and Chaos Marines get the option of buying CCWs?
Because it's fluffy

Please think before posting.

>>50833993
When I asked about equipping my rubrics, people advised me to take them naked. So don't know how you should go about with yours.

>>50835478
>Why do tactical marines suck?

Why are they good? Anything you could answer with, such as T4 or 3+ isn't actually good. They're just sort of underwhelming. They're not auto-lose bad but you're better off just buying scouts who have the same BS4 T4 and bolter for less points.

>>50835478
>Why do tactical marines suck?
they lost their unique ability (rapid fire) which compensated for their smaller numbers
aside from grav-spam, they can't stick two relevant weapons in a single unit

>And why do Grey Hunters get the option of buying CCWs?
Grey hunters were originally tactical marines with WS5 and the ability to buy close combat weapons. Once 3rd edition rolled around they gained counterattack to compensate for the reduction in stats because space wolves units have to be superior to basic marine units by default.

>and Chaos Marines
Chaos marines originally started with only bolt pistols, and had the option to buy assault weapons and/or bolters. It's persisted in every edition since.

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>>50832443
>>50832469

A quick minute in paint produced this.

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>>50835482
Cadia is going to fall, senpai. 40k end times are here and Abadon needs a big win to set him up as the new Arachaon.

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>>50835454

>>50835499
They dragged their fucking planet from the warp... Got the natives of Fenris purged, now the Wolves are doomed to die a slow death without replenishing their ranks.

>>50835118
bumping

>>50835588
Thanks for that random crappy quote from an anon (probs yourself), would have been quicker just to retype it.

>>50835600

It was the usual "Chaos was banished but ultimately won because they achieved all their goals before leaving" that happens in every single major lore piece about chaos.

The chaoswank in the fluff is almost as bad as Tauwank nowadays I swear.

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>>50835410

Except it is?

>A unit cannot charge, or use any abilities or SPECIAL RULES THAT MUST BE USED AT THE START OF THE TURN in the turn it arrives from Reserve

>>50832147
For Emperor's Wrath, it says 2 Squadrons of Basilisks/Wyvern/Hydras. Does that mean I have to take 2 of each minimum? Or can the Squadron just be 1 Basilisk.

>>50835617
What were you expecting, them to wipe out the Space Wolves? Or have all the 1k+1 sons die?
Silly anon, GW did all they could do.

>>50835617
I like how you blame Chaos for Imperial plot armor. You don't get to ever talk Tau having plot armor

>>50835626
1 basilisk is fine.

I run 2 Wyverns as a squadron and 1 Basilisk

>>50835645
Oh fuck yes. I have 2 Basilisks and a Manticore. I can do this formation.

>>50835617
>Chaos always loses the engagement that everyone cares about but the writers randomly insert some completely unknown, never forshadowed objective for the Chaos to accomplish
>hurr fucking Chaos wank
Man, I look forward to the massive amount of butt-flustered shitposting we'll be getting from you and your dumbass ilk for the next half a year.

This is why CSMfags are the worst. I wish you never even got Traitor Legions, you don't deserve it.

Speaking about the Fall of Cadia lore, last we see Abaddon he launched the 13th Black Crusade but tuned his ship 180 degrees and plunged into the Eye of Terror going to core.

What is going to do there? What's his agenda? Who is leading the Crusade in his absence?

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>>50835585
GW sent us to hell, but we're going even deeper.

>>50835703
Is Abbadon's face in that picture his face when he takes a shit?

>>50835673
What are we being blamed for now?

>>50835673
What? No one is even bitching about CSM right now.

>>50835710
That's the face he makes while trying to deal with his phantom pains.

>>50835651
Chaos lose a couple of no-name demons and battles but always win the war because their true objective was this other thing and they did it perfectly because they're so sneaky and smart and better than stoopid imperials. Also (X) named Imperial characters are killed and/or corrupted.

- The Author of Every Piece of chaos Lore

Yeah, that's Chaoswank.

>>50833368
Sisters were confirmed coming in a few months on the stream while they were talking about Celestine

Imperial Agents is an allied Codex, nothing more. It's existence no more affects future sisters releases than it does future IG or GL releases

Passive aggressive anti-chaos posting has got to be 10x worse than chaosfags whining. Holy shit

>>50835710
If it is he needs more fibre in his diet.

>>50835737
Everyone is just butthurt that Curze is coming to fuck up the Imperium

>>50835726
>a bunch of random bullshit pulled out of my ass
>t every butthurt shitposter ever
I really do look forward to how much teeth gnasing is going to result from Cadia finally getting destroyed.

>>50833438
>he hasn't watched the stream
LaughingSoB.jpg

>>50835744

It'd be the first time he managed to fuck up something besides terrified civilians. He's literally on the lowest rung of the Primarchs, right above fuckup Lorgar and fuckup Angron. He's pretty fucking sad.

>>50835621
Eating a model doesnt have to be used at the start of a turn, its used during embarkation.

I can't wait until the release of Fall of Cadia. I really hope that it involves the return of another primarch, maybe even an Imperial one this time.

>>50835746
there was GW stream? can i get a link?

>>50835621

thats not deep strike reserve...

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>>50835744
Isn't curze dead?

>>50835803
The assassin only brought his head to the Imperium. Nobody knows what happened to the body.

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Im sure we all know who's next int he pipeline

>>50835820
mortarion and the death guard would be the more obvious choice, if double dipping on chaos

lion-o if we're picking from the loyalist side of things

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>>50835819
you kind of need a head to be alive

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>>50835454
These night lord fags.

Just talk to you local shop owner, then use fucking sense.

Cadia Will Fall. DA will be there, SoB will be there, Guard will be there (Codex still in 6th) and all these imperials will get a book hook up.
Daemons, NURGLE and the Death Guard will get a massive release, similar to khorne and tzeecth. The death Guard and Mortarian will take out Cadia with grand daddy Nurgle souping cadians.

>tfw DA goes full Chaos in Cadia

>>50835766
That is the point of him, he is a pointless murderer. It is awesome, he ain't a mary sue, he is an insane murderer. Bring back the murder demon plz, all I want for him is to murder a whole bunch of innocents.

>>50835292

A good chunk of the Tau Empire got isolated from the Empire in Montka and have no choice but to join up with Farsight now, meaning he has every suit at his disposal now.

Lorewise your good to go nig nog

>>50835832
Ferrus was summoned as a fighting ghost by the Emperor in the Webway war. So I don't think so.

You just need a will to live.

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>>50835832

Maybe YOU need a head, loser.

>>50835803
Look at my evidence above, not going to post again in this thread.
>Curze is a Demon Primarch

>>50835861
Go back to the 30k general Curzefag, nobody wants to see you fanwank the worst primarch who also died like a retard

>>50835784
Yeah, DA and DG primarchs to return.

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Is 40k about skill, or is it all about luck?

>>50835942

Both and neither...

>>50835884

Seriously, I feel like Curze is worse than Angron since even though Angron failed to conquer his planet at least he didn't die like a little bitch. Curze was literally the most pathetic primarch in hindsight as of M41.

>>50835884
>Primarchs should be glorious and achieve stuff instead of being insane
Thanks for your opinion, gayboy.

>>50835942

Casual 40k is mostly about luck and not being retarded. Competitive 40k is mostly about luck in who you get matched up against in the early rounds since everyone who wins will be playing netlists that are impossible to lose with and negate the luck of dice rolls by fielding ridiculously consistent and powerful units.

There's a reason instead of taking one squad of a unit, they take three or six. It's to remove luck from the equation. The luck of whether that unit will survive, be where it needs to be, hit its targets, etc. Same with psychic powers like twin link ignores cover invisibility, it's all to remove luck.

>>50835942
It's easy to say all games are decided by the luck of the rolls on some level, but 9/10 games you can always look back and think of something you could have done differently. The skill aspect is just a lot more subtle

Every Thousand Sons review on the internet.
>talks about how good it is in general
>gets more critical the more specific you go
>admits that the detachments, formations, and actual units are all still garbage
>finishes with claims that the Thousand Sons can totally put out viable lists but never posts a list that isn't garbage
>optional disclaimer that the author isn't a competitive player
Fucking hell. I just want one person to come out and say "hey, everything other than Magnus is shit, don't bother taking them outside the fluffball games."

Okay so at least 4 primarchs aren't coming back for the final battle so how long till the rest show up?

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>>50835942
yes, no, maybe.

i can't tell you how many games i've won or lost due to warp storm

>>50835994
All Primarchs will be back, there is always an excuse to bring them back.... Except Horus.

>>50835989
Holy shit nobody cares

>>50836014
>Nobody cares
>Nobody
>That poster cared
Your were dumb and wrong even as you were posting :(

>>50836010
3rd and 7th probably arent coming back as they are blank shells so people can make their own chapters while Sanguinius is probably not coming back and the Sanguinor is taking his place in the final battle.

>>50834830
Who are you facing?
Why are you bringing in two predators and a landraider + honour guard instead of just going gladius?

The answer to both of these questions can change everything. I would drop the LR and preds and just go gladius. But if you have to keep them, I would go with full lascannon preds and put more guys in the LR, possibly at the cost of dropping a tactical squad. You're paying a shitload of poitns for the LandRaider, transporting a captain + 4honourguard is not making good use of that.