Warhammer 40,000 general

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>>50821750
First for the Order of the Bloody Rose and Celestine.

Second for Alpha Legion

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>>50821750
Second for Pariah gene

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Is this list any good? Or is it -too- good? I play in a fairly casual meta, so I don't want to bulldoze people if I can help it.

>>50821783
Maybe they'll give us generic living saint as a HQ and have Celestine as a special character version.

>>50821783
nice paint scheme. very tempting.

Third for first was really for Alpha Legion, just in disguise. Also fourth.

>>50821750
Playing necrons rn and picked up a Nightbringer shard
Worth? I'm play mostly casual, semi competitive games with friends and I think the shard has a pretty bitchin aesthetic.
Also are monoliths worth buying?

>>50821796
Looks pretty fun bro
I'd run a helldrake along with what you got but it seems pretty decent

>>50821800
That would be nice as I don't really like using named characters.

But I'm defintely picking up Celestine and the Gemini Twins anyway.

>>50821820
Cheers friend. I'll probably try and find a way to cram some blight drones in there somewhere, but I don't have any Chaos flyers atm.

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For christmas I'd like an Alpha Legion related novel, but i can't decide wich one.
I'm thinkg about "Legion" and "Seventh Serpent"
What do you think?
Any other suggestion?

Nth for decent fluffy Black Templars when?

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>>50821750
GOOD MORNING

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Regarding World Eaters:

Sound good if I paint them brass with red trim? Normal scheme doesnt do much for me.

If I got Skullcrushers and used rods and bike wheels on the Jugger torsos, would they make a passable base for an ATV? Current bikes look... just... dumb.

>>50821841
Understandable
I run a chaos list too but it's a CAD
Unfortunately no formation allow for contemptors or reg dreads :(

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I have a Valkyrie on the way. Just bought it out on a whim.

Any good suggestion for SoB + Inquistion?

Already running;
2x Flamer BBS in Immolator or Repressor when I have points for a full 10 girl squad
2x Melta dominions Immolator
0-1x Seraphim
0-1x Celestian Command Squad
0-1x Retribution Heavy Bolter
0-2x Exorcist

Inquisitor
0-2 Psy Bolt Double Heavy Bolter and 10 point Psyker.

Suggestions?

>>50821863

>Sound good if I paint them brass with red trim?

Sounds alright. Might be a bit garish.

>>50821858
Anyone else just had a cheeky Nandos before crimbo breakup?

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Wait a minute

So I was reading this and it had some soldiers working cogitators and machines, jury rigging, hacking, sabotage, etc etc

I thought only tech priest could touch technology? Or is there an exception for the guard?

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>>50821858
funny, isnt it?

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>>50821783

Bloody Rose!

>>50821885
What the Tech Priests don't know, won't hurt them.

>>50821864
If you played me I'd let you run them in the place of Helbrutes, who gives a shit, right?

I don't think most people would have a big issue with it, unless you're in a tournament.

>>50821885

Priests can only do it reliably. Anyone can fuck with it, but when the Administratum or AdMech find out who's been fucking with their toys, then heads get blammed.

>>50821883
I just ate close to my own weight in macaroni cheese.

One of the great freedoms and downsides of being an independent adult.

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>>50821858
WAKEY WAKEY

>>50821885
You are right this is a major oversight people who are not members of the adeptus mechanicus may can't even touch technology the phase through it.

On a more serious note anyone can use technology it is from my understanding at least most people are too dumb to use any form of tech. As well as that there are machine spirits that get pissed if you don't treat them right.

>>50821885
Guardsmen, like any normal human, can be trained by techpriests to learn some rites and lithanies to take care of their machinery. This is why you have normal humans, "menials", working in Forge Worlds, and this is why tank crews are able to do some quick battlefield repair when they are in danger. However, everything that starts to be a bit technical is reserved to the enginseer.
Some guardsmen are also known to jury-rig their equipments without proper prayers to the Machine God ; In this case, the Enginseer will get really pissy and probably complain to the commissar.

>>50821923
>I just ate close to my own weight in macaroni cheese.

I don't believe you, Anon. Post proof.

>>50821935
I -can't- post proof, I ate the proof!

I feel like this is going to turn out to be a very indigestion-intensive few hours.

I could post the pot if you like.

>>50821960
Do it, Anon.

>>50821627
> Missing MoS
Okay fixed the issue with the Marks.
>No Anti Tank
At 1,000 points I'm figuring most "Tanks" will be Rhino and Chimera which I should be able to handle with the Auto Cannon and the Plasma Guns. Let me double check that Every that can has Melta Bombs, but there is also that. I shouldn't be seeing Land Raiders or Equivalent at 1k points.

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>>50821895
>>50821925
Isn’t it funny? When I came here 10 millennia ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to End them Imperium of Man, you all laughed at me – well I have to say, you’re not laughing now, are you?

>>50821808
Shameless self bump

>>50822014
Abbby-babby-pinhead, run back home and cry in bed.

>>50822014
Who dat

>>50821796
I don't think you need to worry about bulldozing. A cheesy* csm list has rapier batteries/multiple heldrakes/a bunch of sorcerers/zombies/renegades... none of which you have. Should be a fun list.
*Csm don't win many tournaments. Cheese is relative to your meta.

>>50821808
>>50822034

>I think the shard has a pretty bitchin aesthetic.
This alone makes it worth it anon.

I think monoliths look awesome and in 5th they were brutal and devastating, but I hear they are terrible compared to other choices these days.

I think they suffer the same problem as land raiders, which were also pretty big deals in 5th and that's the fact they cost 200 points but you can get more stuff that does as well for less. (land raiders being 250)

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>>50822014

>>50822086
Thank you
I saw few relatively cheap monoliths and thought about sticking one in my decurion. I feel like necrons have lots of cool models and rules but everything competes for a spot on the list.
Thankfully they have don't have the plethora of upgrades for the avg. unit like Tau, guard and SM do

>>50822014
Don't worry abby when you are sitting on your battle barge in Terra's and get killed by kaldor draigo after you struck down the sanguinor even tho he put a nick in your armour ill laugh plenty.

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>>50821783
>MFW order of the bloody rose but no blood on the roses.

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>>50821875
Nothing have a low budget cosplay in return

Repeated from the last thread, would a vestal task force be any good for a sisters army if I'm only running minimum troops?

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I claim this thread in the AdMech's name.
>>50821783
She actually looks great in the BR's colors.

what's your personal favorite when it comes to 40k lore stories?

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>>50821858

1500 TS list

++Grand Coven
+War Cabal
Sorcerer- ML3, Familiar, Astral Grimoire- 170
2x Rubric Marines (5)- Rhino-based 185x2= 370
Scarab Occult- Soulreaper Cannon, Hellfyre Missile Launcher- 300
2x Sorcerer- ML3, Familiar- 140x2= 280
+Legion Armoury
Vindicator- Possession- 135

++CAD
Herald of Tzeentch- 45
2x Pink Horrors (11)- 99x2= 198


Comments? Criticism? Thinking about swapping two Sorcerers for Ahriman and bling for the Herald.

>>50822199
Welp, she just neew to dye her hair white or use a white wig I guess.

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>>50822220
AdMech, Guardsmen(Catachans and Vostroyans especially), and BAs and DAs.

>>50821750
It's 3 bong mate.

>>50822235
>That tie

Farage is a Harlequin confirmed.

>>50822288
But it's 7 burger here.

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>>50822290
That could explain some things. Murderclowns do have style.

>>50822312
10 burger for me.

>>50822312

My PST nigga.

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r8. it gets endurance, fnp, veil of time, invis and sanctuary. probably split it into 2 stars since theyd be overkill anyway

>>50822323
Mein east coast brother, how do

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>>50822323
All I know is that you don't live here, which means that you more than likely are in a better place than me.

>tfw accidentally deleted my Bakersfeels
Have an adorable maulerfiend instead.

>>50822334
Your response to anything is 'hit it with a hammer'. Thus, you need more Hammers.

This is also a manly as fuck list. But how do you fit so many goddamn librarians in there? I thought the strike force was like one of every unit.

>>50822366
shitty cause i couldnt get to sleep till late last night.

>>50822408
it would be 2 strikeforces.

>>50822054
That's good to hear, someone in the previous thread was going on about how "OP" the new Death Guard rules were, so I was concerned that they'd become ridiculous.

>>50822312
We have clock towers at all the town churches that go BONG when the hour changes, and the amount of times for said hour.

Do you fats really eat a burger for each hour it ticks over?

>>50822410
Tough m8
What happened

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Haven't played Chaos is years anons but I'm coming back to my World Eaters. With the new AoS plastics I'm having fun making cool conversions for my CSM squads.

But what kind of lists are popular with Khorne players these days?

So far It looks like I'll be doing a Chaos Warband for the core and maybe a Spawn squad or a Terminator Annihilation force for the Auxiliary formations.

Any advice as I plan out my lists? I'm aiming for 1250 at the start before expanding due to 1500 being mostly our playgroups average.

Also, should I go two special weapons in a 10 man CSM squad or a special and heavy. Back when I played in 5th melta was everything, but I don't know what the trend is these days.

I'm mostly aiming for cool conversions and such so I just don't want to spam a single unit a bunch.

>>50822468
nothing i just have trouble sleeping sometimes.

Are Deathwatch good at 1850?

>>50821846

I liked legion but apparently most people dislike it.

Guess I'm the only one who likes the cabal.

What does +1 to Assault Results mean when using the Icon of Wrath in a unit?

>>50822472
Damn, those are looking good anon, the heads really make then stand out. I'm surprised the arms fit so well as well.

I gotta do a Berzerker unit like this some time.

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>>50822472
>I'm mostly aiming for cool conversions and such so I just don't want to spam a single unit a bunch.
you wouldnt like my list then

Would the Death Guard and World Eaters ever ally?

>>50822525
Count as having killed one more opponent when deciding who won combat.

>>50822476
Have you considered death?

>>50822334
You need more hammers or else your going to get wreaked too often by walkers.

>>50822523
I think it's a very interesting concept that didn't really develope at its furhtest potencial. But I don't see it as Legion's fault for introducing it, the fault remains in the rest of the novels that weren't capable of, as I forementioned, developing it as they could.

>>50822561
They're the closest in terms of how friendly they're gods are to one another

>>50822559
Is Malestrom of Gore really that good? I feel like just zerg-rushing berserkers into the enemy will just get shot to complete shit by any shooting.

>>50822574
a couple of times.

Is there a pdf or excel sheet with the stats for all the weapons somewhere ?

>>50821885
You've got lay people doing tech stuff since 2E. But their actions are even more restricted than those of lowly tech priests.
They can operate the tech for everyday operations, but unusual situations or repairs are beyond their knowledge.
But when you've worked all your life on the same machine, you pick up some tricks.
And then you have the good old guard know-how, like bashing the machine with a spanner or turning it off and on again. Of course that's stricly forbidden and nobody ever attempts such a sacrilege.

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So every faction is getting a Primarch class character now, I guess?

This dude is 5w 6t but will clock in at ~500 points.

Kind of surprised they opted to start the Primarchification with TS -> Sisters -> Admech

>>50822605

Yeah, Khorne and Nurgle, other than the Great Game, don't mind each other too much. If they find a chance to fuck each other over, they will, but if the legions have a mutual goal, they'd probably work together.

>>50822645
The sooner we get to Angron or Doombreed the better.

>>50822612
i havent played it yet but it has a high chance of turn 1 charges, especially from the deathstar

I've been gone for a few days after IA got released, what news did I miss? How are SoB, and IA as a whole? Whats next in announcements?

>>50822645
He doesnt cost ~500. He costs 295pts. Some anon did work on the video and managed to figure that out.

>>50822650
Doombreed had stats back in the day.

>>50822645
not Blood Angels

>>50822645
What is that from?

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Sons of Medusa Strike Force 2000 pts

**Armoured Task force** 455

Techmarine-110
-bike, servoarm

Predator-115
-Lascannon sponson

Predator-115
-Lascannon sponson

Predator-115
-Lascannon sponson

**Stormlance Demi** 1015

Chaplin-110
-bike

command squad-220
-bikes, apothecary, 2x grav, 2x SS, 2x power axe

attack bike-40

Tac squad-85
-plas
Razorback-80
-TL plas/lascannon, dozer blade

Tac squad-85
-plas
Razorback-80
-TL plas/lascannon, dozer blade
Tac squad-85
-plas
Razorback-80
-TL plas/lascannon, dozer blade

Dev squad-115
-2 lascannon, armorium cherub
rhino-35

**Raptor Wing** 275

Stormtalon-115
-skyhammer missle

Stormtalon-115
-skyhammer missle

Land speeder-45

***Librarius Conclave** 255

Librarian-85
-bike

Librarian-85
-bike

Librarian-85
-bike

>any comments would be nice, although the list isn't groundbreaking

>>50822659
>t6 W5, 300ish points

Loyalist Scoria I guess.

>>50822693
GW stream.

>>50822658
Same but slightly better with AoF lasting the turn and not just he phase. Celestian Command Squad are Elite and not just restricted to HQ.

You can take a Priest as an HQ instead of a big cow.

Other than that SoB 6e es still valid along with the Inqusition. Beside non retarded Acolyte squads and Psyker for 10 points and servo skulls nothing change.

>>50822697
Don't forget probably having 2++ and at least a 5+ FNP. And at least a S10 AP1 gun.

He's going to be a beast.

>>50822718
>2++
wat

How?

>>50822707
New admech book? Is St. Celestine coming back as a Primarch level character?

So a thousand sons death Star with the astral grimoire, some scarab occults, and a heck of a lot of sorcerers can pretty reliably get a 2+/3++ save while rerolling on 1s.

Could this be the basis of a competitive list without Magnus?

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>>50822645

>IG getting a Primarch class character

>>50822565
Oh, thanks!

Is that, Furious Charge, and re-rolling charges worth it for 20 points? I think it is, but I'm not exactly sure.

>>50822746
It's a campaign book called Fall of Cadia.

There's at least 3 characters, Inquisitor Greyfax, Archmagos Balisarius Cawl and St Celestine.

We don't know about stats yet, but there's at least one picture of Celestine blasting multiple Greater Daemons into bits.

>>50822671
So did Angron and his unit of 12 Bloodthirsters

>>50822758
Saint Macharius

>>50822758
Might be some fancy named character with a built in command squad that can compete.

Celestine seems to be designed to rock out with her twin bodyguards, combined they'll probably be comparable to Cawl and Magnus. IG might get something similar.

>>50822778
He said primarch level.

>>50822772
I think that's not too old. Doombreed was 2E I think.

>>50822697
He has regular Feel No Pain, there's no number after it. I can't see Eternal Warrior on the list of rules, though. :(

If he has a 3++ it would be awesome, I hope his stuff is half as good as Anacharis Scoria's. I think the S10AP1 is a special or an Orbital Strike, though.

>>50822754
Death moon
Very little high S, no sweeping and no way to leave a tarpit

>>50822789
Macharius with a command squad of some sort would be plenty to put a primarch in his place

>>50822817
A squad full of the human heroes of the Imperium? You know Marbo, Cain, Yarrick, Jurgen, etc

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>>50822771
>St Waifu blasting multiple Greater Daemons into bits.

Muh emps have blessed me!

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>>50822817
He's decent, but even with a command squad he isn't taking a primarch.

>>50822849
>Jurgen
>hero
>not Gaunt
foh

>>50822789

Malcador the Sigillite.

>>50822472
Man, we need modern generic CSM badly.

PLASTIC S O B CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

>>50822876
>etc
Also Jurgen has like more kill counts than the primarchs at this point.

BL manage to make Primarchs and the great Crusade the most boring and childish shit feast ever.

Daddy left! Fuck his Imperium!

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>>50822580
how about paladins? with endurance they are good.

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>>50822859
Now with pictures!

>>50822707
Did they show off Celestine?

>>50822914
Badass.

>>50822771
Don't worry, she will still get ID'd by an ass cannon.

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>>50822866
>old war wounds
I don't get it. A man like him should be able to get the bionics/meds he needs to fix that.

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>>50822918
Sure. There were also video bits where the model revolved.

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>>50822918
Go to the community page.

Did the current generations went full retard that can't do basic google search?

>>50822913

Need more Dreadknights...

>>50822941
the physical wounds are easily healed, but the mental scars remain

"yeah but technology" doesn't really change that

>>50822941
there's a point where you can't heal and instead just cover holes.

>>50822758
It's Cult Mechanicus mate.

>>50822952
The army builder has been in the ope for over a week, we still get daily questions.

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>>50822972
Those kind of wounds huh. Darn.

>>50821750
So I know Eldar are OP as balls, and bikes are extremely good, but are they that bad without scatter lasers? What about with Shuriken Cannons? I really like the models/fluff/crunch of Shining Spears and bikes in general, but I don't want to get them if no one will play. Are they that overpowered?

>>50823005

I hope these guys get a plastic kit now Cadia is going to get wiped out

>>50822995
Hence my comment regarding metal retardation.

>>50822952

I meant the page with the rules like the techpriest...

>>50823057
Which regiment is that anyway?

>>50823061
Oh, then no.

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>>50822957
fuck the baby carrier, we need more wizards. triple strikeforce

>>50822758
>>50822782
Some kind of imperial guard super sentai team?
Wonderful 101?

>>50822913
List is illegal.
2 HQs Max per 1 Troop

>how about paladins?
Okay, but too fragile with S8 AP2 existing. I personally prefer more Terminators
>10 naked Paladins = 16 Terminators.
20 WS5 attacks vs 32 WS4 attacks

>with endurance they are good
They become okay. But GKs can't take Biomancy, so your best bet (if sticking with GKs only) is the Technomancy and hope for +1 T

>>50822472
totally pinching that idea looks great

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How have i fucked up /tg/?

>>50823082

The Blanchian VI

>>50823055
>bikes are extremely good, but are they that bad without scatter lasers?
Naked are less killy but solid at nabbing objectives
>What about with Shuriken Cannons?
It's solid, less good vs vehicles than the scatter but gains benefit fro the formation
>Shining Spears
Are among the weakest in the entire codex go ahead.

>>50822758
they already have creed

>>50822952
>High heels
>Boobplate
Based GW. Triggering SJWs and people who don't understand Sisters'/40k's aesthetics.

>>50822645
So are the Adeptus Mechanicus getting a new combined book?

>>50823111
forgot paladins werent troops, kek. guess id need to ally in tiggy or someshit and just gate them.

>>50823146
Maybe. Probably after FoC though.

>>50822758
>IG getting a Primarch class character
>Will be released when Ghazghkull becomes the Incarnation of Beasts
>It's Yarrick riding in his Fortress of Arrogance

>>50823132
Thank you, Anon. Those guys look pretty great.

>>50822952
>high heels
Absolutely disgusting, they would just sink in to the mud and she would fall over. She's a retard.

>inb4 /tg/ neck beards drooling over her feet try to justify this

>>50822758
Ollanius Puis maybe? I don't know what he would have, but he would just keep getting back up after every death.

>>50823137
I don't think GW understand or ignore trigger happy people on the internet.

It is more GW and simply not giving a damn about their consumer or surrounding. To even comprehend the clusterfuck that is SJW and internet activist in general

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>>50823152
My dick can only get so hard

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>>50823137
I find the previous one to be more elegant with more subtle pauldrons.
But that's probably due to the salem's hat on the new one.

>>50823179
Have you ever seen 40k art? Women in high heels fit into the lore just fine.

40k is supposed to be retarded and not taken seriously.

>>50823179
Mini anti grav plate. There problem solve. Boob plate? Fake boobs on top of the proper armour with super alloies of the future.

You bitch about that when there a fucking daemons, space travel is done by venturing into hell. Robot mechas, space magic, etc

But heels?! Blasphemy!

Word bearers daemon summoning / hero hammer list?

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>>50823089

8 x Daemonhunter Strike force, wizards need not apply!

>>50822472
GA the leather boots please!

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r8 me

>>50823309
>>50822472
*GS

Why do space marines need big muscles if their armour is powered /tg/?

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>>50823301
That's a lot of Rhinos.

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>>50822523
>Guess I'm the only one who likes the cabal.

One of the very few. It's one of the worst things the BL HH introduced.

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>>50823301
wizard used force, its super effective.

>>50823343
Their strength is cumulative. They're stronger with both.

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>>50823343
because they are to dumb too just make bigger armor with guns and jetpacks

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>>50822645
Curze is coming back?

>>50823315
>GSC
>No Subterranean Uprising

>>50823555
>required Primus
Wow, you're right, I should have included the worst HQ in the army
Subterranean assault is only good with Cult Insurrection for that turn 1 shrouded.

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For a casual game, I'm pretty limited by the models I have available

So, I have an entire War Convovation, or I will once the Warden is done. For my fortification, do I get some Haemotrope Reactors or a Void Shield Generator? If I take the gen I guess I could get the extra layers free? And would the shield get the Shroudpsalm 4+ cover?

>>50823628
>And would the shield get the Shroudpsalm 4+ cover?
Is it part of the detatchment?

>>50823658
Yep, Fortification slot in the Battle Congregation. I was wondering whether Void Shields got cover, but I suppose there's no reason they shouldn't.

>>50823613
Pretty sure the Primus is optional

>>50823709
yeah, but bringing him adds an extra die to your cult ambush roll. If you're gonna run the formation, you should bring him, but without Cult Insurrection, none of it is worth it

>>50823613
>Worst HQ in the army

You're not wrong but the Primus is really useful in spite of that. The Hatred bubble and three wounds is incredibly useful, and the obvious benefit of a fucking third dice roll to Ambush should be obvious.

There's also the fact that the primus is fucking optional, it's 0-1.

>>50823628
OK, I looked at the rules for the VSG and the WarCon, and as the extra Shield layers are actually wargear options as far as I can tell, they're free. That's brutal. 50 points for 3 AV12 HP that have individual IWND and a 4+ cover for two turns? I would pay 100 for that, so if they're not free it's fine, but still.

>>50823315
Why are you using a Chimera instead of two Trucks, the Trucks are pretty much all around better.

I would swap the Chimera for the truck and use the extra points to give one of your magi a Crouchling.

>>50823771
Only put the chimera in there because I already own 1 truck and 1 chimera. I could buy a second truck, but for now, this is what I own.

What if I made an entire KdK army using only the pack of skulls for bases?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Pack-of-Skulls#

>>50823812
Better tier that shit.
More important you are = more skulls you got.

>>50823794

That makes sense. I would personally just run the Chimera as a counts-as Truck but it's up to you. List is overall not too bad, though your CAD is going to suffer for not having Infiltrate on turn one. Being able to infiltrate your autocannons and multilasers behind enemy rear armor is really funny, even if you don't plan to abuse Cult Ambush.

Then again, three flyrants should cover glancing things to death, so doesn't seem bad. Other thing I'll point out is that Seismic Cannons are way better than Mining Lasers.

>>50823763
War Convocation is absolutely pants on head retarded.

>>50823844
Should I drop my cult icons in order to swap the lasers out for seismic cannons?

>>50823865
Yep, but I do need it to hold off the Tau Hunter Contingent with Drone Net + Riptide and Stormsurge that I keep running into. The guy even said that HC was "Not that good". Don't know much about the Tau formations, but fairly sure that getting more use out of Markerlights is never exactly bad.

>>50823835
Good point.

So CSM get a lot of skulls, Aspiring Champions get a brass skull, Dogs get a lot of skulls because they're good doggies, Maulerfiends get a lot of skulls because they're huge and vicious, Bloodletters get a lot of skulls because they're Daemons, Bloodmasters get one brass skull because he's the Bloodletter sergeant, Heralds get some brass skulls because they're the Bloodletter bosses, Daemon Princes get a ton of brass skulls because they're super bosses, and Bloodthirsters only get brass skulls because they're Bloodthirsters. Cultists get no skulls. Cultist champions get one pity skull.

Yes/no?

>>50823871
Yeah, cult icons aren't that great for Neophytes. They're the shit for Acolytes, but Neophytes usually won't be in melee.

>>50823700
Void shields aren't units, they don't get cover saves.

Also additional void shields aren't listed as wargear, are they?

>>50823951
>aren't units
Anon, everything in the gane is a unit.

Even units of measure.

>>50823968
storm bolters aren't units

>>50823972
Yes they are. They're two independant bolters combined into one unit. Why do you think they fire twice in the shooting phase?

>>50823972
They are when shipped

>>50823915
Saw an battlereport where a guy was sporting cult icon and melee-weapon on his neophyte leader. Ended up getting six on cult ambush and charged some poor marine squad to death. Rerolling to hits, hitting on 3+, I5 and having ap3 weapon is pretty good.

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>>50823894
>The guy even said that HC was "Not that good"
its not

>>50823055

Scatter lasers are fine as long as you limit yourself to 1 in 3. Shuri-cannons are fine. Shining Spears kinda suck. Eldar are easy to play casually as long as you're not going out of your way to spam scatlasers or use Wraith Knights.

Got ten sisters of Silence models by chance that I'll be adding to my Sisters of battle.

How should they be outfitted?

Flamers, swords, or 50-50?

Been leaning towards the latter, giving them some horde counters and redundant wounds, plus the ability to do something during the disembarking turn.

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>>50823915
>>50823844
>>50823771
>>50823315
did I fixed it?

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>>50823999
with drones

>>50822758
They should just make it Straken. Make him a T5, 5W with ET and FnP and have him be an IC that can issue orders, like Yarrick.

>>50824069
I dont think Sisters army needs anymore flamers. Go with swords.

>>50824069
>Sisters of Battle
>Willingly fighting alongside Sisters of Silence
This triggers my autism, but go with Swords. Helps take care of Sisters lack of melee.

>>50824091
They both hate heretics what's the problem pal?

>>50823951
Well, I don't particularly care re. points, but they're in the same "Options" section on the datasheet that explicitly does count for the Vengeance Weapon Battery as per the FAQ given example, so those are free. Not sure about the cover thing.

>>50823999

Well, not my forte, so I'll take your word for it. Was a bit irritating fighting a Surge at 1250, where he hid his HQ in a corner and did nothing but rain Markerlights on me and shoot the Surge. I have some Dunestrider units now, those should throw him off guard a bit and the walkers might be able to hold down the Riptide or Stormsurge if I get lucky.

His list was Drone Net, a lone Stormsurge, and a Riptide and Ethereal, plus a couple other drone units and that was it. Ethereal did nothing but hide out of LOS, Riptide and Surge did all the damage and drones never died. Boring game, that.

>>50824091
Of course they would fight with them. Sisters of Silence are created by the Emperor so they are pretty much holy in eyes of the sisters.

>>50824071
Is there a program that prints out sheets like this? Or do you hand edit them in photoshop or something?

>>50824124
Read the OP

>>50824070
>1852

Your choices are cutting the familiars off the patriarch and adding another purestrain to the CAD, or cutting a CAD purestrain and adding either another Neophyte to the Goliath squad, or adding a familiar to the magus.

>>50824103
SoS are heretics themselves by being atheist and hairetical by having topknots.

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>>50824108
>Well, not my forte, so I'll take your word for it. Was a bit irritating fighting a Surge at 1250, where he hid his HQ in a corner and did nothing but rain Markerlights on me and shoot the Surge.
honestly even just taking markerlights isnt the most competitive list i dont think.

HC is only good if you are actually using firewarriors

What should I pick as a starting army to build up to a war convocation, Ad Mech, Skitarii, or a Knight?

>>50824103
>They both hate heretics
SoS are oldschool imperial truthers and they're psychic abominations.

SoB are mutant and spysker hating Imperial Cultists.

>>50824124

No-one tell him.

We have to stop spoonfeeding retards.

>>50824131
my casual group doesn't give a fuck about going over by up to 5 points. I think I've seen some of them run 1859 in an 1850 game. It's not like I'm bringing this list to a tourney. We play beer and pretzels games.

>>50824139
The one you like most.

>>50824150
Sounds good then bruh

>>50824121
>so they are pretty much holy in eyes of the sisters
No, that's not how it works. Followers of the Ecclesiarchy are forced to tolerate the creations of the Emperor, but their views and practices would put them at odds. Remember the ecclesiarchy is the new kid on the block. Old school great-crusade organizations are barely above actual heretics in the church's eyes, and their relationship is rocky as fuck.

SoS would have a better relationship with Marines (at least, first founding marines) than SoB.

>>50824069
Swords hands down

>>50824144
Psychic Abomination as in psychic blank, same as a Culexus Assassin.

Is there some way to spice up my homebrew chapter while keeping them totally codex-adherent?

>>50824224
Yes, they are mutants that makes people around them suffer nightmares and general anxiety, what SoB would call "Very dry kindling"

>>50824251
Conversions.

>>50824137
Maybe not, but when I bring my Admech without War Convocation, more than 20 Vanguard and one unit of Kataphron Destroyers, I tend to hope to not fight nothing but MC suits and bin lids in a 1250 game. If I wanted full cheese there would be a lot more bullshit than that.

Skitarii Start Collecting times one or two,then two Kataphron units is pretty good, then grab anything apart from Electro-priests. Get the Knight early if you're using it in other armies as well, I guess.

>>50824251
Yes, several.

>>50824251
All Marines in ranks of command use Powerfists as a symbol of authority instead of the Chainsword

Thus all characters must purchase a Powerfist if possible.

>>50824278
Oops, second paragraph addressed to
>>50824139

>>50821846
Legion was terrific, but centered mostly on regular human characters... oh, wait.

>>50824288

I was thinking of something similar, except with power swords. They're either going to be Fists or Ultras successors, so it makes sense for either of them. IFs love swords in general, and with Ultras, I could play up the roman connection with gladius swords.

How the hell do you build a TSons list that is viable for even the friendliest of games? I have been experimenting with some list building and I cannot make an army that doesn't have a crippling flaw which renders it unplayable. I love TSons but god damn there are so many taxes when trying to field them you cant do anything with them

>>50824139
Pick something other than War Convocation. It's nothing but cheesy garbage. Even if it is technically not as strong as some other formations, it's pretty damn broken.

>>50824278
just take warconvo. i dont play 1250 2bh but like 50% of a list in big suits isnt that bad. its probably just because of the low points level. it would be like taking a knight at 1250

>>50824416

Git Gud.

>>50824326

Plasma. Your chapter was gifted their primarch's plasma pistol, and now they're obsessed with plasma. Everyone who can take one gets a plasma pistol, gun or cannon.

Anyone know what a decent 1000 point list of pure Harlequins would look like for a Newfag? I know they're meant to be used with/as allies but the other two brands of Eldar just don't do it for me currently.

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this probably wouldnt even be good

>>50824441
Is there some Ryza themed Chapter? I remember wanting to make an IG/Tempestus army with millions of Plasma Guns and templates. Good times.

>>50824470
Dark Angels have a Plasma fetish

>>50824489
GW went pretty hard with the gay jokes with DA, didn't they?

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hunter cadre anything is honestly weak compared to just straight CAD.

>>50824528
the plasma thing came later, actually

I think they just wanted a gimmick to separate them from codex marines, and flamers/meltas were already spoken for.

>>50824152
>>50824294
What formations are in Ia that are good for Ad mech?

>>50824418
Why I thought War Convocation was good

>>50824528
What's so gay about plasma?

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How is this for my very first list?

>>50824082
>>50824091
>>50824223

Seems swords are the way to go, it's just that flamers for 2 points mang.

>>50824588
>gay about plasma?
There's nothing odd about shooting hot loads at their enemies, just be careful, somethings they fire prematurely.

>>50824588
dudes shooting blue-white blobs of shit at other dudes? Nothing.

>>50824575
You thought it was good because it's obviously broken?

>>50824637

>blue-white

...is your cum blue, senpai?

>>50824121
>SoBs being the anoying little sisters to big sister SoS.

Itsjustlikeoneofmyjapanesseanime.jpg

>>50824596
>1000 point SM list has more models than a 2000 point 1k son list
wew

>>50824769

A 1k SM list running pretty inefficiently with termis and a dread at that.

>>50824769
Just run pink horrors.

>>50824752
He's clearly Tau, call the inquisitor.

>>50823137
>high heels
>Sisters' aesthetics
There is literally, literally literally, only one official picture and miniature of an SoB in high heels in the entire existance of 40k.
I think it's you who doesn't actually understand it at this point.

Tyranids should be immune to challenges in synapse, and have hit and run for free.

>>50824813
Keep talking like that and Cruddace will make your monstrous creatures t5.

>>50824810
Also the model is of an Inquisitor

>>50824893
I know, I was responding to anon saying Sisters had high heels.

>>50824810
>"high heels"
>not recognizing the Adepta Sororitas mark 4 armour with its distinguished two one use flamers hidden inside the back of the armour's footwear.

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>>50824853
I heard and I find it amusing for now. If I hear it again Anything bigger than a gaunt will be t2.

>>50821895
Did Trump hire him in the end?

>>50824813
And Space Marines should have Poisoned and Feel No Pain too.

Though I do think gaunt models within Synapse should be able to Look Out Sir any Tyranid unit within 6" of them
2+ for infantry / beasts
4+ for MC

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>>50824455
>>50824562

>>50824945
Trump said something about Nigel being an ambassador to Britbong land.

>>50823474
He never even wanted to live back when he was King of his world, why would he want now when everything is shit?

Do tau drones get to make LoS?

>>50825080
Yes.

does it matter what shoulder pad on a chaos space marine its legion icon is on

>>50825107

GW won't let you play in their stores if you put it on the wrong side.

>>50825107

Typically it's on the left.

>>50825130
what if ur legion has multiple icons, for example alpha legion has the 3 hydra heads and the "A" with the chain through it, if i had both on one model would it matter lorewise whats on which

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>>50821783

The extra armour plates under the corset was a mistake. It makes them look fat.

Genestealers should be able to ally with anything but necrons and daemons at ally of convenience, and nids at battle brothers

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>>50825129
Jokes on you, my geedubs manager gives ZERO FUCKS about anything. I openly paint my monstergirls at the geedubs, and sometimes I even get compliments from the blackshirt on my work.

>>50825213
You're doing gods work anon.

>>50822754
There's no way to get the rolling saves at a decent point level. The star itself has very little offensive capability, and the Sorcerers lose their ability to meaningfully interact with the enemy the minute you reach CC.

So anyone of you guys have the ebook of Shadowswords?
I can't even find it on my sekrit club exclusive site

>>50825185
>Chaos should be able to ally with anything but Necrons and Grey Knights at ally of convenience, and Chaos Space Marines and the Imperium (except Grey Knights) as battle brothers

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What have you been up to anons?
Painted up my unpainted Guardsmen today so I got two units of veterans and I'm painting some scions too.

Also army pics!!!
Give me strength anons. Haven't had a game in three weeks. It's getting so desperate I might even start Sigmar

>>50823168
There's already rules for that

>>50825260
WHERE'S THE BLUE?!

>>50825260

Do you have an online gallery of your army?

>>50824596
Love it, its basically the army I had 20 years ago.

>>50825337

What's that army like today?

>>50825260
been sitting around trying to think up lists.

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>>50825299
I know not enough blue :(

Is the Army Painter superglue any good? I presume most brands are about the same.
Also, seeing as I want to paint a lot of Leadbelcher and Zandri dust as my base colours for my Admech, would using the GW sprays for those on top of primer be better? I know they're pricy, but do they work well?

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>>50825349
Those plasma guns are shamefully plain. Learn to do glow effects!

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>>50825260
After shitposting about my Ork vs Tau games for so long I know find myself without a game for the next 2-3 weeks, due to holidays.

>>50825330
Sadly no. I really should tho. Any idea of what I should use for a gallery?

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>>50825260
Right now I'm trying to make a list with what I have painted, but I'm struggling to find something I like. I'm also making lists for bigger point games, but I'm no where near painting it all or having the models anyway and I can't decide what I like most.

Right now this is my current list with what is painted. Also, I am very desperate for a game too. I want to play so bad.

>>50825356
If you're just gluing models i recommend buying testors liquid cement it works wonders.

do 40k chaos space marines use the beaky helmet?

Why the hell does a single 10 man veteran squad cost $70?

>>50825378

photobucket or imgur

>>50825363
Consider mold lines.

>>50825394
Renegades would. Legions would be unlikely to, but it could always be salvage.

>>50825394

Unless they're recently turned, no. Beakies were long after the heresy.

>>50825388
I have lots of plastic glue, this is just for metal or resin.

Are the GW sprays decent? I'm thinking that spraying the Leadbelcher layer on top of Chaos Black for my Knight skeleton would be much faster than painting it by hand, and probably be better.

>>50825260

Still waiting till the new year to start ordering my first army.

Death Guard CSM.

>>50825454
>Are the GW sprays decent?
Yes, they're quite good.

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>>50825445
>Beakies were long after the Heresy
WRONG

Totally new to 40k, was wondering how I go about making a black templar army? I know they're in the space marines codex, but is there anything I should be aware of when making my force? And would the start collecting box be worth my time or would my money be better spent elsewhere?

>>50825411
Cheap compared to a squad of SoB

>>50825445
um no, beakies are during the heresy and a bit before it.

>>50825483
The best way would be wait it out for fall of cadia. Hopefully some new BT stuff then

>>50825486
i mean those are still metal right now while the veterans are plastic which is probably cheaper to produce.

>>50825483
You would be better off using the IF rules in 30k. They have two black templar specific units, along with your legion rules being very good. Current 40k black templars are very lackluster.

You can also use Sigismund, an effective rape machine that has a decent chance of taking on his own primarch.

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I'm sad no one has help me regarding Valkyrie.

Anyway have some cosplay

>>50825411
A 5 man Veteran sprue is often the same size as a ten man normal sprue and instead just comes with a ton more options and extra bits.

If you don't care about those extras just get a normal squad and paint them to show them as Veterans.

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>>50825509
Welcome to GW pricing honey it makes no sense

>>50825544
i mean i bought all my stuff so far from ebay but some of this is insane.

>>50825502
Do we have an ETA?

>>50825532
interesting didnt exactly expect that.

>>50825363
>Learn to do glow effects!
Pic unrelated?

>>50825054
Idk madness?

>>50825579
The other sprue is mostly special weapons options irrc.

What things about Traitor Legions disappointed you? What did you like?

For me, the biggest disappointment is that for any Legion that isn't Alpha Legion, Black Legion, Iron Warriors or Emperor's Children, there's no real incentive to use their signature troop units.

The funniest what-the-fuck though is the fact that Typhus cannot make Death Guard Cultists into Plague Zombies since they have to take the Mark of Nurgle, but he could turn Alpha Legion Cultists in another detachment into Infiltrating Ninja Zombies.

>>50825472
Nice. Putting together the final list of things to order for Xmas presents:

Imperial Knight (Because Robots)
Army Painter razor wire and Battlefields basing set
Sector Imperialis Large Base Detail kit
Leadbelcher spray.

Most of this is because I need to do more interesting bases than Khorne Red+ Texture Paint.

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>>50825628
Listen to our lord and saviour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpSVZiYLuPY

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>>50825579
For example. Top is Tactical sprues. Bottom is Sternguard Vet sprues.

Me and my friend want to start playing, are there any cheap options to start with?

>>50823179
Maybe there's a power field on the heels to keep them from sinking?

>>50824070
>Still no Subterranean Uprising
No, you didn't.
SU is the best thing in GSC, even without the Primus, and if you don't understand this, just keep spamming Flyrants.

Is there a reason NOT to thin paints? Is there a circumstance in which unthinned paint is desirable for a mini?

>>50825687
Ebay, check for dark vengeance or one of the betrayal or burning of prospero boxes

Failing that if you want other non space marine armies, try their start collecting, which is a good deal, but not always the best starting set.

>>50825658
that is a glorious picture

>>50825687
Splitting the Dark Vengeance box game is one way. That gets you both starter forces and one copy of the rules between you.

You can also start with one of the other boxed games like Deathwatch Overkill but you'll need to pick up the rules separately. The Kill team box is also a good cheap way to start. Cheaper, but less stuff.

If none of those factions work with you the place to start is usually with the "Start Collecting" boxes for each army. They're all a pretty good deal compared to regular price and will get you going on a force.

>>50825680
But then you have insane bundles like mention above that give way more than this but for only a bit above the price. Its one hell of a deal even by discount standards.

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>>50825365
I tried to take a better picture with my camera but it's broken.
I guess it makes sense I'm bad at shooting pictures, considering I'm Bs2

>>50825680
Tacs also have this sprue. So it's not 1 to 1. But still, Vets come with a lot more options per model.

>>50825570
No idea. There have been some leaks giving a good indication BT's are getting some love soon. Or maybe they get squatted. Who knows. Best guess for a ETA is probably 2-4 months id say.

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>>50825797

>>50825779
>port it to my computer
>rotate and save
>it flips back when I post it
I just can't win.

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>>50825720
It's unnecessary if you're properly drybrushing. In fact it's also completely unecessary if what you're doing is BRUSH LOAD CONTROL. Pic related, painted without a single drop of water.

It's simple.
> Put paint on your palette
> Put a little bit of paint on your brush
> Paint a paper towel with your brush, until 90% of the paint is now gone.
> Now apply brush to model.

>>50825658
Thought you meant lighting effects where the "glow" bleeds into the surrounding area.

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>Fall of Cadia
Talos rules when?

>>50825680

That sternguard sprue is making me wish even more for new CSM and Chosen. CSM are the oldest still-in-use basic troops (except sisters, of course) and Chosen only exist in plastic in the form of the snapfit DV kit.

>>50825814
i understand the feeling Anon.