Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1241: Not a Dumpster Fire Edition

First for NEVER AGAIN.

>>50818624
You're not supposed to make a new thread before it falls off.

Rolled 23 (1d100)

Are we doing this again? Old thread isn't even dead yet.

>>50818624
This >>50818675 . DELET this. And then use one of the more-interesting thread titles suggested.

>>50818683
NO

How did you even?

>>50818694
You can't delete a thread, dumbass. And the other one is literally the last thread on the board. I'm sure the mods will understand.

>>50818705
My guess? Through sheer force of hatred.

Rolled 79 (1d100)

>>50818705
I think somebody was a bit too hasty on trying to get a thread up or didn't even notice the thread was still going.

>>50818719
You actually can delete your own threads.

>>50818719
>>50818724
Yeah but, ive tried and it doesnt work. Something about duplicate files. How...?

>>50818738
Either way, this one is better due to lack of rollspam, which needs to be left in last thread.

>>50818719
>You can't delete a thread, dumbass.
You actually can delete a thread, dumbass. I've personally done it a few times.

>>50818753
Should've waited like is traditional.

Rolled 48 (1d100)

>>50818753
I'm sorry, you were saying?

>>50818747
He used a different pdf. Clever guy, thankfully. That old thread was, well, pretty shit.

>>50818766
>like is traditional

Tradition went out the window some time around the last thread went to shit.

Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>50818753
I didn't find it that bad at all. People weren't starting angry shitstorms at least. Just some good natured fun. Could always do hunger games again.

>>50818785
Well, if he wasn't a dumbass, he would've remembered that it usually takes awhile for the last thread's salt to subside. He should've waited.

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>>50818777
Please stop.

Hey /JC what music do you use for tense Moments?

Mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wiskH1UE4c

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>50818825
There wasn't any salt though, unless people are salty they can't roll a crit. Even this thread hasn't done anything except for people saying they hate rollspam and asking why there's a thread.

>>50818853
>>50818793
Yeah, we only had people completely ignore that a DOTA2 jump WIP got posted. And same for any discussion or posting of perks in future WIPs for other jumps. It wasn't bad at all that they got completely ignored in favour of rolling over and over for hours.

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>>50818793
>>50818853
Please can we leave the rollspam off this thread?

/JC/ What does your Jumper want for Christmas?

>>50818884
Death.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k3DJqQQ2Uw&t=0s

calm yourselves and listen to this soothing ditty...

>>50818835
Actaully this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCMtIgg89_M

>>50818863
We should have that reposted then. Builds you guys are working on?

>>50818884
That pic for canon please.

>>50818835

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDG0lKhtUtM&list=PLXRkwGvXTai6R5meiXZWnPk4PMXdICa4u&index=41

I tend towards electronic music n' whatnot with my themes for some reason

>>50818884
Cookies. Lots of cookies.

Also cake.

>>50818863
So instead of reposting it, you decided to be passive aggressive about it. Is that you Dirge? Being a little bitch again?

>>50818884
Complete and total power so they may completely destroy all bad guys

Or at least lots of shiny and pretty gems and jewlery, stuff that lets them be a magical girl

>>50818901

Builds? I did the Kamen Rider Neo-heisei builds recently.

I wished death upon my past self with /great/ ferocity.
Holy hell I think I spent 3 weeks on the Kamen Rider arc in total because of the death

>>50818930
Wow, you can't even own up to your rolling bullshit being bad, you just instantly go on the defensive to attack others. Kudos.

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Sonic Classic Jump 046:
CP: 1000
Drawback:
& Knuckles [+200]
Metal Destruction [+200]
The Eaten Time [+600]
Location: Little Planet
Origin: Conqueror
Perks:
Spin Dash [200]
Fastest Thing Alive [600]
Eggomania [Free]
Fly High, Gentlemen [Free]
Build My Empire [200]
The Master Plan [300]
The Blessing of the Little Planet [300]
Gear:
Death Egg Schematics [300]

So what happens when you've combined the speed enhancing stepping method of Saru (One Piece) with being the Fastest Thing Alive? Quite frankly I don't fucking know but whatever speed I'm moving at it's only thanks to my abilities from the previous Sonic Jump that I'm keeping up with the world as I move through it. Physics are in a corner crying as I shred every ounce of speed out of my body and then come back for seconds. Were it not for the fact that my biology is completely alien thanks to my time in the Prototype world I'd be devastated even with the protections that the new perks give me. As it is my stock of biomass is slowly but surely going down as I blast past all foes as fast as I can, basically speed running the damn world in an effort to get everything done in time. Each step is a symphony of broken bone and torn tissue but I keep going, hell I need to go faster.

It's an effort to call the little Wisp and then we are one and I am light. I move as a living laser, ignoring outright what before I had been dodging. The rush is huge but I can't stop now so I call forth the Fake Emerald and with it in hand I have a point of symphaty between all Emeralds, by the time that the effect of the Wisp wears off I have two Emeralds in hand and I saved a lot of biomass. Again my body breaks as I continue to move beyond the limit of safety. A month of running later and I was done. My biomass was back to it's original level, and gathering that much had been a pain in the ass but the timelines were saved.

That was about the moment when Metal Jumper lopped off my head with a copy of Jumpseiga.
(To be continued)

>>50818884
A nice vacation. Maybe just take on their puppy alt form and laze around all day, let someone else save the world.

1751 posts, total.

>>50818884
The ability to roll a 100

Rolled 39 (1d100)

I will never fucking surrender!

>>50818863
Oi, I noticed it! Besides, SMT Anon was rolling as well, calm down. He rolled after as well.

That thread was more tense that I imagined to be at the start

Rolled 15 (1d100)

Jump Chan guide my Dice I beg of you!

I move that we swear an oath upon the chains that bind to never again open Pandora's Box. All I favor, say aye.

>>50818973
Shut the fuck up and move on. Stop trying to defend it.

>>50818901
>builds
Pretty much >>50818945 but without wishing death on Digger. Digger is awesome. Digger also puts more stuff into jumps than I can possibly afford, which leads to lots of agonizing over if I /really/ need that other perk. Doing companion builds for Neo-Heisei Part 2 now.

>>50818965
>>50818975
It's over guys, you just have to accept it.

>>50818979
AYE. NEVER AGAIN.

>>50818979
Stop. Talking. About. It.

Can you understand that?

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>>50818975

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>>50818960
This says something. And most of the rollers didn't respond to the OP.

Report and ignore, guys.
That's how you kill stuff like this.

How do you deal with infestations, Jumpers?
I prefer to mindcontrol one and use their body to murder their kin.

>>50818965
No, stop. It was a blast, but the joke is only funny if we stop.

Rolled 7 (1d100)

>>50818979
If you promise me a chain this'll be my last roll.

>>50818984
You say after getting a 100.

>>50818979
You encouraged this shit. I want you to know that when the stars go cold, and all hope goes distant. I want you to remember that when the lines were drawn, you chose wrong.

>>50818993
I deliver punishment with violence and hate.

>>50818835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR-S5OO9A9o
>>50818884
The Comfiest Fire in the Multiverse.
>>50818965
Please stop. I was more desperate than anyone, and you don't see my try anymore, do you?
>>50818979
Aye.

>>50818998
It was last thread! We were rolling then, this is a new one. Just move on, man.

>>50819003
I know, anon.

God help me, I know.

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>>50818998
This isn't real, m8. Just stop, or this type of thing may lead into worse further down the line.

>>50818992
It says that people actually did something to participate for once. That or the questions that people ask aren't interesting enough in comparison.

>>50818993
Fire.

Well, Last thread was Crazy.

>>50818979
Aye. Now let's never do that again and if asked pretend it never happened.

>>50818863
Someone want to repost that so we can talk about it then?
>>50819003
2edgy4me

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>>50818982

I'm allowed to try and punch myself in the face, because god damn there is nothing as bad as being in absolute hell and knowing it's all your fault

In anycase I also have the world's lamest build for Gundam UC and I will be taking this lovely little warstrider along the entirety of the gundams

Jump 27: Gundam Universal Century

1000/1000
Crossbone Gundam
Traveller(0)

Perks: Adults and their Lies!(0), Anaheim Degree(200)

Companion: Lalah Sune(300)

Mobile Suit
(50 cp, Import Jade Panoply)
Custom: Beam Saber(0), Head Vulcans(0), Vernier Thrusters(150), Enhanced Sensor Equipment(100), Funnels(200)

I don't even know what my plan is but to be a massive piece of shit with the Moon Princess I got from Star Wars the Original Trilogy alongside this new baby.
I should have probably bought a carrier now that I think about it...I could afford it, too, there wasn't a whole lot I wanted out of this jump.

>>50819018
Really? Couldn't tell.

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Is this what happens when I go on vacation? The great beast that is /jc/ becomes restless and does this?

I may be trying to do all of Heisei if nobody gets to it before me after vacation time, or at least fold Kabuto into something because I'm not sure I can stretch it all into one jump. Ryuki I'm increasingly tempted to do as an LoT-style gauntlet, except you don't get kneecapped and assumed morally incorrect for sticking to your powers.

Speak of, if Merchant's floating around, how's Gaim coming along?

>>50819012
Did you learn anything from the experience?

Here's all the stuff I previewed last thread. http://pastebin.com/MYeGQYbm

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>>50819013
>That sudden veer to the right
Man, must suck to be in that helicopter.

>>50819023
Hang on, let try and grab it real quick.

>>50819032
>More Kamen Rider
Noice.

>>50819003
>You encouraged this shit.

Stop trying to guilt him over it, anon. The entire thread and just about everyone did it at least once. It was a thread effort.

That said, never again.

>>50819034
Of course not. I'm far too drunk for that.

>>50819007
>I was more desperate than anyone
I rolled for 7 hours. . . I was the one who started the bang your head against a wall stuff and never stopped once from then to the bitter end.

>>50819038
Thanks. When do you think you'll be putting out this Fallout 4 update?

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>>50819039
This should work?

>>50819054
No wait it was 6 hours, my mind is breaking due to the repetition.

>>50819057
Hopefully in December; shooting for around Christmas.

>>50819064
Is that our shortest thread yet?

>>50819066
It's December now. Christmas is in 3-4 days depending on your time zone.

Cool. That's pretty soon then.

>>50819032
How would you handle Decade?

>>50819038
I've been meaning to ask, do we get the other ending rewards along with the Silver Shroud one? I mean, if we take him down as the Silver Shroud, and then spare him, will we get both the Silver Shroud and Subdue reward?

>>50818993
Fire.

>>50819082
I'm not. I think someone mentioned wanting to do a Decade endjump (Digger?) a while ago, or at least give it its own jump. It kind of needs to be its own animal sort of by necessity, or at least have things to bounce off of. I'd be handling things leading up to it, though.

Speaking of Kamen Rider, any idea of what Kamen Jumper's progress on Amazons is?

Is he even still around?

>>50819058
Think it looks pretty good. If you become a stone giant can you merge your body with things like gems or metal?

>>50818901
Here's a build I did recently.

KOTOR:
Dantooine
Blind 200
Broken 100
Grey Jedi -100
Togruta -50
Strength Free
Persuasion Free
50,000 Credits Free
Datapad Free
Chosen Ones -200
Battle Meditation -600
Pyrokinesis -300
Medkit -50

I mainly plan to faff about having fun, exploring the universe, studying their tech and then using it to keep me alive during the war. This is a war setting, right?

>>50819027
>Crossbone Gundam
yarrr

>>50819067
No but it was one of the shorter ones in terms of time. In terms of posts it was the longest, even longer than the times we have tried to make it as long as possible.

>>50819018
Huh,well after that thread i've been thinking of creating a jump, which i've wanted to do some time but don't i know if i can do it

>>50818901
Just had these two builds and am working on Sidereals right now.

>Justice League Dark - 704
Age: 10,000-years-old
Drawbacks: The Cold Flame Burns (+300)
Final Point Count: 1,300 CP
Origin: Guide
Abilities:
-Stranger (Free)
-Untouched By Time (Free)
-Potential (Free)
-The Curse of Immortality (Free)
-Arcane Expertise
-Magical Blood
Equipment & Artifacts:
-Pandora’s Box
-A Team To Call Your Own (400 CP)

>Sonic Classic - 705
Location: Little Planet
Origin: Guardian
Drawbacks: Super Drowning Skills (+100), Bad Future (+400)
Final Point Count: 1,500 CP
Perks:
-Smooth Criminal (Free)
-Sharpening the Saw (Free)
-Sage of Angel Island (Free)
-Guardian of the Master Emerald
-Power Enriched By The Heart
-The Blessing of the Little Planet
Gear:
-Spring Yards (Free)
-Emerald Pedestal
-Lock-On Technology x4

>>50819101
No clue, ask SMT Anon if he's still around.

>>50819111
What jump is that, anon?

>>50819086
Agh, I didn't really think of that. I might need to think of alternate rewards then, since there's not really a good reason for someone to not be able to loot him.

>>50819111
It is both harder and easier than you might expect, as I am currently learning with Space Hulk.

>>50819108
So it'd have to be one of our fastest. More or less IPs than usual.

>>50819111
JUST DO IT, ANON, MAKE YOUR JUMPS COME TRUE.

Seriously, you'd likely be better than some of the jumpmakers that are taken seriously around here.

>>50819058
It seems awfully more powerful a jump then I remember the game being.

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>>50819111
Just be like me and drink copious amounts of alcohol and begin slamming your face on a keyboard.

Eventually, a jump will appear!

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>>50819098

You're correct. I'll admit maybe someone who's witnessed enough of Heisei to help fill in the blanks for here and there.

>>50819058
...Oh that's dead sexy.
That is just.
pic related

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>>50818947
(Continued)
The Metal Jumper hit me at my weakest point. I'd poured resources into saving the world that I hadn't even test yet and as my head came off a swarm of spiritual attack, both bullet/flame patterns of Undertale and my personal style of Soul attacks. Body and soul burned in an instant I was slain before my head could hit the floor.

Or so it seemed.

My Limit Mode broke and I was hitting the a Metal Jumper just as hard with everything I had in the next instant as it tried to keep up with the fact that I was synced up with 11 alternate dimensional selves. I hit with all the accumulated might I could bring to bear on the Metal Jumper. Spiritual Energy flowed and I grunted heavily as the information from Shingan told me that the Metal Jumper was merely critically damaged. Fast-Teleporting I pulled my gun out and unloaded into the metal monster as nano-machines tried to keep up with the amount of damage being dealt. I knew my limits, fought against them as I strained to atain greater heights so when I finally finished off the monster of metal I banished the slowly regenerating monster to the space inside a black hole.

A new one would be on the way but I'd burned through my Limit Mode already and that was enough to make me wary. Now it was time to get moving, I had to build myself a new empire and use the scan I'd gotten of the Time Stones as well as my Fake Emerald to create a new energy source that would use Quantum Entangelment, that was the objective anyway, and use the Anno tech that I had to trade with Eggman.

>>50819117
>there's not really a good reason for someone to not be able to loot him
Two words: Self Destruction

What? He's a mad scientist, he's legally required to install a self-destruct button/function in all his stuff.

>>50819139
>>50819098
>>50819082
>Decade
ONORE DECADO!

>>50819130
...
Bait or not bait.

Leaning on bait, and if it is I just bit it.
God damn it.

>>50819116
A Lisa:The Painful jump. but i'm kinda of resitant because i've never did a jump and don't want a jump to be shit.

>>50819134
It's a bit like LoL from what I remember. There are some heavy hitters in lore, but everyone hits at pretty much the same level for game balance. Like, there should be Heroes that can challenge even the latest-game jumpers.

>>50819159
Which part did you think was b8? If the second, that was likely true - he'll probably be better than jumpmakers such as myself.

>>50819164
I...have some serious doubts about that.

>>50819124
In regards to Space Hulk I have a good idea of what I'm going to do in terms of options but if anyone has anything they'd like to see I'm happy to listen to suggestions.

>>50819169
Second half. Mostly the taken seriously bit.

I dunno. I've been a cynical asshole today.

>>50819164
>latest game jumpers
You sure about that? Because we have 700+ jumps now.

>>50819176
Me too anon, iktf.

>>50819161
I felt the same way when I made my first jump. It can be a little difficult, sometimes, but the thread is (usually) willing to help out when needed. Just try your best, don't be afraid to ask for help and suggestions, and be creative.

>>50819171
He might be talking about that one space dragon from LoL who create/destroy/throw stars with casual effort.

>>50819171
>>50819178
Yeah, people who can casually crush stars, and people above them who can do the same to galaxies.

>>50819164
You might want to avoid statements like that, it doesn't engender great responses.

>>50819153
That's a good point. Or just being too broken up in the fighting. Thanks DevilSurvivorAnon!

>>50819192
>>50819191
And this isn't just hyperbole?

I suppose as long as the jump avoids that stuff it might be fine. I sorta expect whoever is making it to have snuck something in with just how many things there are.

>>50819192
>who can casually crush stars
>700 jumps

Kek

>>50819058
If SMTanon is here, how much CP do companions get? Enough to purchase Cosmic Mistake, Hopefully?

>>50819192
You can do that with multiverses as a jumper though. Like with your hands (or what passes for hands I don't judge) manually.

>>50818884
Justice is pretty happy as is
As is Gamer/Minion Master to be honest.
Stalwart Tiger wants Revenge, and his Kingdom/People back.

>>50819191
>>50819161
Oh, and have fun. If it's not fun for you, then there's an issue.

>>50819195
Happy to help, YJ_Anon! I am so snatching that one perk that allows me to be taken seriously no matter how hammy and silly I am. It will be perfect for my saturday morning cartoon villain chain.

>>50819222
DISU-anon is here!

>>50819203
Okay, what do you think is "too high-powered"? I might agree with you, I might not. I'm still reading through the jump.

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>>50819230
I am always here, lurking in the shadows...

Oh, also:

>>50819222
Thanks dudes,well i'm going to sleep,i'll try and make a WIP and post in some next thread so i can have some feedback.

After last thread I have to ask, why do we use d100s here?

>>50819247
Easy percentages?

>>50819247
Old IP.

>>50819247
Because we can?
It's not the only thing people can roll, but it's a nice round number that isn't too small or too big.

>>50819247
Easiest number for rolling results.

Are there any totally silent forms of teleportation?

>>50819280
Blink in Worm.

>>50819280
Any teleportation with an Innistrad Vampire's field of silence.

>>50819280
Apparation can be done silently, if you're good enough at it. Practice more.

Time for the most self-masturbatory topic:

Post your titles, /jc/. All of them. Every title, name, nickname, and other sort of name you've ever gone by or ever been introduced as.

>>50819392
The Broken One, I am a rather fucked up person and incredibly OP so it is appropriate in two different ways.

>>50819392
Buddy
Partner
Knight of Chimera
Draggy
Cuddlebun

So far my first jumpchain has been fun

Poke
Infamous
Tropico
Futurama
Sitcom

the powers and combat are cool and all I guess, but starring in what boils down to a mix of Frasier and Futurama where the head of Nikola Tesla and I navigate the intellectual side of Seattle was probably the best thing I could have fallen backwards into

has someone compiled a list solely of comedy/comedic (non-joke) jumps? if not I'll probably end up doing that over the next few weeks

>>50819392
I've forgotten most of them...but,

Professor Nika (I got a Ph.D in Engineering solely so I could get better at robotics and building mobile suits)
NIKA, HERO OF THE MULTIVERSE (Of course~)
Comet Moth (Superhero name I took in the Disgaea universe)
Firebrand of Valhalla
Fala's Reincarnation (Although this was more derogatory and referred to my hot-headed and impulsive attitude than a badass title, because Crusader Fala shared those traits)
Why Can't You Fucking Die Holy Shit

Now here goes the sap
Darling Nika
My Love

So which jumps give the best regenerative abilities?
Infamous is great for that of course, and GATE has decent regeneration too, but i really want to be like trying to cut water.

>>50819493
G Gundam has UG Cells as an item, which is a flat 600 CP but holy shit, they're well worth the cost.

>>50819392
Mugger of Gods and devils, freedom embodied, the l337est, the walking interrobang, Jumper of the bloody lake, The Lord of the Eclipse, the righteous Punisher, Biter of Edges, the dark-eyed one, stained papyrus of the bloody wastes, the infallible Messiah, the OG mothafucka (yours), The Best Around, etc., etc.

>>50819493
>GATE has decent regeneration
If it wasn't for the rather unpleasant weakness it would be one of the best forms of regeneration in the chain.

>>50819493
Omega level regen from X men movies is a given. There's also Anomalous Phisiology from SCP for certainty of cohesion and the NGE angel perk line for consistancy.
German Hollow Quest regen from the supplement is a fantastic option as well.
Make it your unique power and it scales indefinitely
Not necessarily the best choice compared to the alternatives, but it's very nice.

>>50819493
To go with this, are there any perks that would sustain your memories and personality while your brain is regenerating from damage?

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>>50818992

And mine was the top roll out of all of them. It's canon now.

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>>50819509
What weakness?

>>50819493
(Chronicles of Narnia)
(Heroes)
(Young Justice)
(Avengers - EMH)
(Prototype)
(Underworld)
(X-Men Movies)
(Hellsing)
(Lost Odyssey)
(Age of Wonders)
(Generic Creepypasta)
(Tsukuhime)
(Marvel)
(SCP Foundation)
(Kill la Kill)

>>50819462
Not recently.

>>50818624

How can I jump crossovers and AU's? I recall naruto or maybe harry potter having a fandom drawback, is that the only way?

Would some kind of crossover supplement make people flip their shit? Like the chaos hijack, but with flaws like the intrusion of a OC mary sue, horrible pairings, a stupidly grimdark setting, or just that people can't speak or spell properly, using run-on sentences and terrible grammar?/spoiler]

>>50819522
>spoiler
What do you mean? In terms of numbers, or row placement?

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>>50819392
My name is not important. What is Important is what I'm going to do.
Does anyone else have a genocidal side chain? It's kind of fun in a cathartic sense

>>50819537
yes

>>50819552
>Side chain

>>50819525
The perk makes you an Apostle which cannot be killed by in setting means, this is very good.

Unfortunately you only regenerate destroyed flesh, meaning that someone can cut a limb or your head off and it won't regen until you re-attach or destroy that part. This applies to your whole body such that cutting up a Apostle and separating the parts by large distances is a good way to deal with them.

>>50819552
I had a chain where I ran around killing generic protags like Kirito from Sword Art Online

Very cathartic indeed.

>>50819516
Cellular Regeneration: Cellular Regeneration allows its user to rapidly regenerate,
healing on the cellular level. This allows the user to heal severed limbs and missing
organs in minutes and broken bones and bullet wounds in seconds. In addition, so
long
as more than 50% of the heart or brain remains, the user can regenerate the
missing parts without technically dying or
having any memory loss. (600 CP
, free
Martian
)

From young justice.

>>50819570
So combine it with other things, is what you're saying?

>>50819570
is this a jojo reference?

literally the only time it would be okay to use this shitty joke

>>50819570
Would combine well with something like Nechronica where each itty bitty piece of you can function on its own, or Darkstalkers where you can just dissolve them into blood.

>>50819537
A.U.s can be jumped by the fanfiction drawback but not crossovers.

Most likely, yes.

>>50819570
If you have some degree of telekinesis, it'd be hard to keep your body apart, assuming someone was capable of chopping you up to begin with.

>>50819537
A few AU's have their own jumps and there are fanfiction drawbacks. I dont' think there's anything for crossovers, but that's because you are the crossover. You'd absolutely get crucified for having a supplement like that though.
Basically if it's some kind of chain wide supplement that's not tied to a jump then it's a no go.

>>50819536
sheit, i guess i'll get to work then

>>50819578
That's pretty decent, thanks anon.

>>50819506
Fuck off Tera.

>>50819580
What I mean is that if you use this for early jump survival don't get cocky, there are ways to neutralize you that can make the rest of a jump very unpleasant.

It is a survival perk that can easily result in a very harsh lesson about the difference between immortality and invulnerability.

>>50819578
Combine with Rolling Counter from Mother so that you always get "a few seconds" to heal from any damage before the consequences can take effect.

>>50819629
Eh, pretty sure that wasn't bancho, anon.

>>50819577
>just killing kirito
>not murdering Kayaba as well after mindraping him into a content state to get the seed
Honestly you might as well just nuke the setting. SAO is trash, and the only reason anyone around here jumps it is for Final Form.

>>50819651
I'm pretty sure he was just insulting that guy by calling him bancho.

It's pretty much the worst agreed upon insult around here.

>>50819650
Would the time you get scale with durability? Or at least "health increase" perks/items?

>>50819651
Anon, it's using all the titles he constantly uses in reference to himself.

>>50819663
There are also a few that are considered to mean even to call bancho, so those are probably worse.

>>50819666
It takes longer for the health to tick down in game the more you have.
So presumably yes.

>>50819668
Yeah, and it's also using several that I cannot ever see bancho seriously using. Also, who the fuck cares? It's just titles in an imagination game, it's not harming anyone.

>>50819674
Well, that's really dependent on how he's acting. Times like when he was talking in thread about wanting to ethnically cleanse the middle east (I wish I was fucking joking here), I'm sure people would have called him basically anything nasty.

>>50819666
Not if it's going like the games, no. More health only helps in that if you fail to respond to the counter in time you won't die from it.

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What's the rule on making jumps based on a spin off of a setting we already have? Like, we have an Evangelion jump, but what if I wanted to make an Evangelion Campus Apocalypse jump, which is based on a spin off that's way different compared to original Evangelion and set in a different universe?

For reference, Angels must kill and possess human bodies in order to interact with the physical world (pic related is one of Ramiel's forms), the pilots fight the Angels on foot with Lance of Longinus like weapons, and everyone is after the Cores for some reason. Is it okay to make a jump on a spin off like that?

>>50819666
The perk just says "you'll have a few seconds before the damage takes full effect". But obviously the faster you can regen and the tougher you are, the more those "few seconds" will do for you.

>>50819678
Interesting. I guess that's why it says a "few" rather than a specific number.

>>50819684
It still sounds incredibly broken. Like, could I withstand a nuke naked when I shouldn't be able to, cast some wards/healing/resurrection spells, and call it a day?

>>50819698
Is it different enough that you can come up with enough content that it's not half copy pasted?
If the answer was yes then I don't see why you couldn't make the jump.

How many Dragon Blooded are there in modern Exalted? Significantly less than during the primordial war?

Is there a point where Shield Infusions (Bioshock Infinite) don't do anything for you? I mean, you're going to need ridiculous amounts to do anything significant when you're only improving by 15% of the shield's initial base, but could you theoretically drink enough of them to withstand tank shells and even more?

>>50819703
Wards won't help, because you've already taken the hit. Resurrection spells won't help, because you aren't dead (yet). Healing spells will help, but only if you've got enough to heal the damage the nuke has inflicted - which, if we're talking in D&D terms, could well have put you into the thousands of negative hp.

>>50819717
There's a lot more IIRC. They're designed to make more of themselves after all.
Thing is they're breeding is shot to hell so they're all a bunch of chumps compared to the old days.

>>50819720
Infusions stop improving any attribute, including shields, after 10 of them.

>>50819728
Shouldn't there be a concerted effort to improve the strength of their blood? There are ways for them to do that.

>>50819730
Ah, fuck. Oh well, it's not like there aren't scaling forcefields elsewhere.

Thanks, anon.

>>50819717
There were a million during the war and now there's only like 20,000 or so.

>>50819728
>>50819717
There are more than when they were created, less than there were during the Solars' reign.

>>50819737
They're retarded hedonists and don't understand how their own blood works.

At this point the only way to make things better is extreme incest.

Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>50819392
As a 700+ Jumper, I will refrain from posting as to not clog up the thread.

Besides, 1/3 of them are bedroom names.

>>50819737
Dragonbloods are experiencing too much political corruption and kind of dicks. They also don't really know how that shit works.
Like they get that having dragonbloods only having children with other dragonbloods will maintain the bloodline better, but that's the extent of it. Dragonbloods also ignore that rule since they want to give the D to people

>>50819737
There are efforts, but the bloodline has been diluted enough that this is the best they can do. Maybe a few generations from now they'll be stronger on average, but surviving the approximately twenty apocalypses about to hit Creation all at once will probably screw up their breeding programs too much for that.

>>50819751
>At this point the only way to make things better is extreme incest.
Or just use the methods that improve the strength of an individuals blood, it is possible for a Dragon Blooded to increase their blood/breeding score with training and effort and. . . they aren't going do that are they?

>>50819751
>extreme incest
Does Exalted have mendelian inheritance for that to be a problem?

Also even if it does then per >>50819746 they should still have a quite viable breeding population without needing to go to extremes.

>>50819730
Can you buy the infusion multiple times or just once (and have to get others in-world)?

>>50819767
Those are first age charms. I don't think anyone really knows those still exist outside of savant historians, and the current world state doesn't facilitate living long enough to get high essence dragonblooded running around.

>>50819771
You can buy none of them and get all of them in the world. I would assume you can also buy them multiple times if you want.

>>50819767
The charms that let them raise their Breeding are both dangerous and require them to live lives of purity and abstinence from debauchery. Not many modern DBs are willing to deal with both those restrictions. They're also high-Essence, so a Dragonblooded has to be fairly old before they can use them.

>>50819790
>The charms that let them raise their Breeding are both dangerous and require them to live lives of purity and abstinence from debauchery.
Really? There are no methods that can be used safely/without abstinence?

Jumper and companions will get to the essence requirement eventually.

For Anima jump, the Dargonpact option removes the risk of you dying if the dragon dies but what about the Sheele option? They're familiars too so do you still run the risk of dying if they die?

>>50819814
The purity and abstinence are to make you live long enough to develop the essence score needed to use the charms.

>>50819844
No, that is not a function of Sheele. The permanent loss of a point of power is the usual cost to make them, so them dying just means your out on an investment.

>>50819814
Nope. And it's really dangerous. You've got a roll of (Essence+current Breeding), against a difficulty of (new Breeding rating). If you fail, you die. No room for partial successes, and since there's no "Essence Excellency" or "Breeding Excellency", the dice pool can't be enhanced by charms. So unless you're quite high Essence, it's not particularly safe to do. It doesn't need the abstinence, technically, but that counts as a stunt to add bonus dice, so it's a smart thing to do. Plus, as >>50819849 mentioned, the average Dragonblood needs to engage in such things in order to live long enough to raise their Essence high enough to buy the charm.

>>50819862
Can you have more then one Sheele?

What happened in the old thread? Why the bump limit didn't worked?

Did anyone ascended?

>>50819863
I did some checking of dice probabilities with Troll Dice, by the way, just out curiosity. If you use Purity Crucible Strike the moment you get access to it, at Essence 6, you're got a 77% chance of dying in the process of reaching Breeding 5 (I'm only doing the roll for the escalation from Breeding 4 to Breeding 5, just for simplicity's sake). If you wait until Essence 10, you've only got a 49.5% chance of dying. Stunts can add up to three dice, raising your total pool to 17 dice (10 Essence + 4 Breeding plus 3 stunt), giving you 32% chance of death. That's the lowest you can lower your odds, and three dice stunts are hard to get, too. There are some other ways to influence the roll, Sidereal Astrology can reduce the difficulty and target number by one, which does increase it significantly (11% chance of dying at Essence 10, without a stunt. A three dice stunt lowers it all the way to 3.7%), so you can probably find some out of context solution to improve your odds. Still, it's risky. I'm not sure I'd want to chance it. Maybe get extra life perks, that would help.

>>50819392
Only the titles from Fallen London/Sunless Sea come to mind for the chain I'm currently working on though it's barely 13 jumps in.
I believe they were, for the jumper and their companions, the Intrepid Mailman, the Meddlesome Inquirer, and the Blind Anchorite.

Rolled 61 (1d100)

Better late than never.

>>50819683
I never wanted to cleanse them ethnically. I just wanted to destroy their toxic culture so that Their conflicts would stop. it wasn't a race thing!

So can someone with a better understanding of Bastion give me a better understanding of what the fuck is going on in said world? I mean more along he lines of their tech and how it relates or doesn't to the tech of other worlds.

>>50820149
No, I remember it quite clearly because it was what got you banned from the IRC. So many people were so disgusted with you that they started getting on the IRC, when they never had before, just to ask people to do something about you.

>>50820169
it just sounded like I wanted to cleanse them ethnically because I was using the kill the Indian save the child method to do it. But no, it wasn't actually a race thing

>>50820178
>It only SOUNDED like I wanted to commit Genocide, I was really trying to help!
You're a sick puppy man. A sick, retarded, racist puppy.

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>>50820159
Okay, here's the big secret about Bastion: It's basically a Final Fantasy game cunningly disguised as an indie game.

Basically, all the weirdness comes from crystals called Cores. Which are created from burrstone infused with the essence of burrstone-symbiotes called Windbags. Their big shtick is conceptual remembrance, so you can harness them to restore a world that's been blown up. The Bastion is basically a supercomputer that calibrates this effect well enough to float in place after most of the world's surface has been blown up, and basically "save" the past over the future of the world with enough Cores equipped. However the sheer energy they pack can also be used for extremely dangerous weapons, such as The Calamity.

>>50820195
I'm not saying It wasn't a genocide in them. I'm saying you're wrong about why I was going to genocide them and considering it ends war in the middle east. I think it would result in a net downswing of loss of life Over time

>>50820178
>>50820195
>>50820212
This conversation has nothing to do with Jumpchain please stop.

>>50820206
Thank you Garlock so basically they can put everything back together but only if you really have the... 'server space' for such a measrure as everything?
Also super batteries right?

>>50820224
Yeah, after last thread there's not really any room to complain about off topic conversations.

>>50820159
Bastion technology is based around manipulating natural energy flows. The strongest sources of this core from Burrstone that's been infused with life force from countless generations of Windbags (a type of slime monster that in its juvenile and young adult stages is lighter than air, thus the name) making their nests in the stone. Other sources are possible, for example, the Ura use "Conductors" that channel ambient energy to strengthen and reinforce the natural order of reality around them. That's mostly what Bastion technology does. It either strengthens or weakens physical laws and the natural order. It can hold it together under stress, as the Bastion itself does, or as the Rippling Walls do to reinforce their physical strength. It can weaken it, as the Calamity device (and its lesser man-portable version, the Calamity cannon) do to increase chaos and disorder to destroy things. Or, by weakening it in some ways and strengthening it in others, it can control nature, at least to a degree, allowing for things like the Skyways and their corridors of wind that users can fly upon for long-distance travel. The height of Bastion tech that's been observed is the engine at the core of the Bastion, which is theoretically capable of destroying the universe and remaking it in an earlier configuration, essentially rewinding time. No one's ever been able to test it, though, because how would you know? Activating it is one of the endings, though, and if you start a new game after the rewind ending Ruck's narration at the start will say "Haven't I told this story before?", suggesting that it does work.

>>50820236
There is if you don't want the mods to invoke a permanent banhammer for /jc/.

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>>50820212
Hey Bancho, you know what would completely remove all crime and death from the world? Murdering everyone. Do that and no one will die ever again! You're already doing it for the Middle East, just do it for the rest of the world.

I'll even give you a knife.

>>50820242
Yeah, after last thread there's not really any room to complain about off topic conversations.

Seriously, if they didn't ban these threads for a 1700 post rollthread, the fuck do you think they'll care about two idiots being stupid for 4 or 5 posts? If you want to stop a conversation, find less baity ways of doing it

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>>50820224
That's basically it, yeah! And it's implied the put-everything-back effect is so versatile it was the entire foundation of the Caelondian tech base since the Caelondian tech boom was based on it-homing automated turrets, control systems, vehicles etc.

Interestingly, the Ura have some sort of crystal they can use to infest paths as blockades and a battering ram that summons meteor-like bursts implying they too used refined burrstone in some way without making Cores out of it.

Either way, they're definitely super-batteries.

>>50820249
didn't I blow you up? I'm pretty sure I blew you up in the first holy Grail war so that you couldn't pull that crap

>>50820259
It's great to see you completely miss how hypocritical you are.

>>50820241
Super intreasting! How do 'Conductors' work, or is it one of those kinda implied things that didn't get a lot of lore?

>>50820258
Nice! Now I wanna explore the stuff that you and the guy above have told me. I don't know if I can afforded to get the Windbags but if I could figure out how 'Conductors' work I'll be able to do something awesome!

>>50820264
Yes. Yes I did. Please elaborate

>proper capitalization
Oh fuck, guys, he's evolving!

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>>50820249
I see. You're right, Grail-kun.

I want to companion him. When will the jump come out?

>>50820280
Erm dude what you suggested earlier was the same thing just on a smaller scale. Also you broke the Grial long before Angry Man-Dude had power over it, which is dumb in my opinion.

>>50820293
I saw a WIP earlier this week it's coming together nicely.

>>50820276
>Super intreasting! How do 'Conductors' work, or is it one of those kinda implied things that didn't get a lot of lore?
They're just something that's implied. We know that the Ura used them heavily in their construction, and that's why the Tazel Terminals are still so intact when the rest of the world's mostly destroyed (which kind of undermines their quest for vengeance. There are two surviving Caelondians and like a thousand surviving Ura. The Calamity was a dick move on Caelondia's part but I think they've paid the price for it). We also know that the Mancer Observatory, where Caelondia's most top-secret research was being done, used them in their experiments. Other than that, not really much is known.

>>50820305
Still interesting to know! Thanks!

>>50820258
Hey Garlock, thnak you for helping me out man!

>>50820301
I don't see how destroying a pair of oppressive theocracies is quite the same as destroying all life on earth, Unless you're literally saying all murder is a scaled down version of destroying all life on earth? And yeah it might've been a bit rash, but considering it was either destroying it then or letting that bastard corrupt the grail permanently I still think it's the right choice

>>50820293
Urk. Maybe tomorrow? Maybe the next day? I'm not sure. The notes are the most boring part of the jump so it's hard to work through them all but they're needed. Drawbacks are done though. Funnily enough, there will be a certain option to gain Angra Mainyu (In Servant form) as a companion.

Mostly since he's uber shit then any real reward

>>50820328
You literally just told us you thought genocide of an entire culture was okay because it reduced the crime rate in the long run.

>>50820342
Not crime rate,I wanted to Bring peace to to the middle east! what's the point of peace. If there's no one there to enjoy it?

>>50820347
>>50820212
You said you'd genocide them and that it'd result in a net loss in loss of life over time.

Also, why the fuck are you arguing with people over this you retard? Didn't you say you were wrong on this before? Why are you continuing to defend this decision?

>>50820328
1. Murder is aiding everything's slow death by speeding it along, yes. Your opinion on the matter is one of many and I'd rather we agree to disagree on this subject as it has little to do with Jumpchain.
2. Wish it incorruptible. Just something you could think on.

>>50820338
Awsome to the max!
>This Spoiler though
Why would you give me this Valeria. I'm going to need a sadist and a saint and three chairs and a ton of candles to make this right.

>>50820358
because people keep misunderstanding. It, and that's making them Think poorly of me. I'm not defending the idea I'm explaining What they're getting wrong about the idea

>>50820369
But what if they're thinking poorly of you even with the explained outcome Tera? Because that's basically what's happened here.

>>50820383
I don't understand why that would be the case when people don't think poorly of some other people and the thread who do much much worse things

>>50820369
I'm pretty sure people are going to hate you for doing something like that even if you explain it. No one likes someone so dumb and narrow minded they think genocide is a great and morally acceptable option.

>>50820388
They don't make it out like they're doing the right thing.

You have had this explained to you. There is almost no way you are not purposefully trolling now.

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>>50820368
It's not exactly going to come free

300- Black is the New Black
-The evil thing that gestates within the Holy Grail, Angra Mainyu, would normally only begin to be born at the end of this war, depending on the actions of certain characters that take part. Now, his black mud is already present in Fuyuki City. It has infected every other Servant present in this war, officially or not, and only you and your Servant have been left untouched. This corruption has stolen the various Servants and bound them to Angra Mainyu as their new Master. Each of them gains the Alter Type added onto their own abilities, as described in the Servant Supplement, and will be resurrected one day after being destroyed. They are also all after the head of your Servant or you, if you are one. If they manage to corrupt or kill the last Servant, Angra Mainyu will be able to use the Wish that the Holy Grail grants to be born into the world in full. Needless to say, that happening counts as a failure for your Chain.

You could stay on the run for ten years and if you survive, escape successfully or you could try to destroy Angra Mainyu where he is incubating in the Holy Grail. Succeeding at finding and destroying him would certainly stop the onslaught of corrupted Servants...but you'll find that a piece of Angra Mainyu will always manage to escape until the end of your journey. He'll continue to send the corrupted Servant's after you , and possibly infect more beings, but each time you kill him will grant you a year's respite at least. If you manage to kill him each time he appears until the end of the jump, you can take his Servant form as a companion. Maybe you could help him get over that trauma.

>>50819877
Sure, just costs a point of power for each one. Best to get Powerful Soul if your going that route.

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>>50820395
okay what's a good alternate plan for solving Middle East crisis permanently, then?

>>50820426
go read the thread that got you banned. People explained things to you then.

>>50820388

Just stop for now bancho, this is never going to stop.

>>50820426
Slowly shifting power away from traditional structures through economic influence, propping up governments that are willing to cooperate, and all around accepting that lasting change takes time to implement instead of sudden massive revolutions.

>>50820388
That's known as a double standard. Also as >>50820395 explains they don't try to take the moral high-ground when they do so. They acknowledge that what they are doing is bad/negitive/evil/etc. but they accept that and continue forward. Whilst you play the Hero but are in truth the Anti-Hero, and I mean in the trope manner. You are a person who tries to be good but does evil to do good, unlike a Hero who does good to do good. It is at the point where you chose to do an act that can be labeled as evil that you lose the rights to taking the high road.

>>50820415
That's rough but fair Valeria.

>>50820426
Theoretically there are various ways to solve the problems of the Middle East. One is to allow them to quarantine their entire people away, they have requested this before but not in recent memory, so that they would never have to bother with the other tribes. Some pepole think that they'd end up 'burning' themselves out in this manner, but I personally have no opinion on the subject.

Another is to do as >>50820446 says.

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>>50820369
>>50820426
Don't be sad my little Bancho. I'm sure everyone will someday understand the greatness inside of you.

You just need a little help to set you in the right path.

>>50820457
oh no, you're just going to doublecross me again like you always do!

>>50820456
1.I've admitted I'm and antihero for a while now
2. And they're just going to sit by and lose their holy lands? That seems a little idealistic

>>50820477
To be fair dealing with Ebon Dragon is litterally just him giving you enough rope to hang yourself with. Not his fault, merely in his nature, you have a choice and apparently you chose poorly. Somebody have the Indiana Johns gif in here?

Exalted query -

Reading the books, it seems like even the lowliest mortal can resist the strongest social attack or charm just by paying 1 to 3 willpower. What's up with that?

>>50820495
Gosh, you'd think they were just begging to be purged wouldn't you?

>>50820499
Social Combat is a horrendously made system.

Is Mardukth planning on working on Fair Folk or Lunars next? Regardless, where can I go for more info on the Raksha?

>>50820499
The social combat system is kind of broken. The unspoken intent is that your average mortal is never going to spend Willpower, because he's got a limited supply and can't afford to waste it just on refusing what is, to him, a perfectly reasonable argument. Only exceptional characters, the plot relevant ones, will actually spend Willpower. But that doesn't really come through. That said, it is pretty easy for an Exalted to drain someone's Willpower to the point they can't resist social attacks, so it's not a huge problem in gameplay. It's still clunky and dumb, though.

>>50820526
Graceful Wicked Masques, and then the Scroll of Errata to see everything they rewrote in Graceful Wicked Masques, which is most of it.

>>50820499
Well you aren't really supposed to know to pay the willpower if the charm effect isn't obvious.
People always do since not doing so is suicide, but outside of mechanics you wouldn't necessarily know it's an attack without some kind of experience in the matter.
Normal people don't have much will to spend either so doing that once or twice is enought to leave you helpless.

>>50820508
>>50820531
>>50820541
...Oh. I see.

So, assume Social stuff always works but you need to put in work if someone is important.

Thanks a lot!

>>50820499
When you are a Mortal get ready to be shit on unless you are a Heroic Mortal who knows how to use Essence. You see here's how it works Social Combat works by moving opinions to new points or lowering opinions of old points, as with conversation in general debate. Spending willpower is the equivalent to sticking your nose up in the air and just ignoring the argument outright with no thought to logic or the conversation in question, basically being a stubborn ass. It makes rolls against such things harder unless you come at the problem from a new angle. A Mortal can, in point of fact, just shove his fingers in his ears and start shouting "LALALALA!" to try to ignore a Exalt/God/Essence User but that merely makes it more difficult for them, and with Excellencies they can just overwhelm that difficulty with sheer success and pay attention to my words at least aura/presence. In addition to this is the fact that the average Mortal has 5 Willpower, 2 of which he deals with his day to day problems with and on average gets back at a rate of one a day, with restful days being used to top him off. Because of this they have barely enough willpower to spend it on an argument with a 'higher being' should you run out of willpower at any time you'll end up a slave to your virtues which means that you'll almost be naturalistic in nature. Hope this helps.

>>50820499
Is this the equivalent of social combat and a musical perks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMM

>>50820559
That is a pretty good way of putting it.

>>50820558
>It makes rolls against such things harder
Harder? Isn't it a flat failure when Willpower is invoked?

>>50820631
In the tic, as in literally second, that your start being stubborn yeah. However, any new attempts, even just continuing the conversation, will up the difficulty for the scene by 2 IIRC and that doesn't stack. An Exalt will basically start at you and when the going gets tough they railroad the conversation until you are faced with their facts. AKA: It sucks to be Mortal around Gods/Exalts/etc.
Basically this >>50820559 is what happens. See how he just takes over the conversation and throws her completely under the influence of his voice. At the end she's so enraptured with what he's saying that she isn't paying attention to what he's doing. This is a decent way of looking at Social Combat, you can be stubborn all you want but Mortals are kinda crap at it.

Is there a list of jumps that make you loose your power (like Fallout), or that make you loose / have someone steal your power as a drawback (like Arrowverse)?

>>50820495
>antihero
Advocating genocide is AT BEST an anti-villain thing. More likely boss-level villainy.

>>50820947
Anti-Villain is a person who does good for evil purposes dude.

>>50821147

It's more complicated than that

>>50821147
It can also be someone who does evil for what they think are good purposes.

>>50821190
>>50821208
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AntiVillain
True enough.

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>>50820947
Wouldn't you genocide a billion to save a six billions?

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>>50820526
I'm /probably/ doing Lunars first, since I've currently got more ideas for them. So it'd be easier.

But that could still change. Fair Folk are cool.

>>50814775
I'll see what I can do.

>>50814828
...I'm still not entirely decided.

I'm kinda wondering if I should go with the Devil Tiger I once played (which would have themes of Serpents, Masks, Marble, Crystals, Grandeur, Glory, Greatness, Exaggeration, Excess, Hyperbole, Illusion, Hype, Masks, Mountains, Size, Fortresses, Laughter, Trickery, Frenzied Activity)

He was a Malfean Defiler, but had some Ebby influence... Basically bluffed his way through everything. At one point he tore a Slayer apart, and then scared the rest of his pursuers off his back... with 1 mote left, and practically no chance to survive if it failed.

Turned into a bit of a Mardukth-like Devil Tiger, except his HUEG was basically a lie. His entire Devil Tiger was build around bluffing and pretending to be the most powerful being to ever walk Creation. Ended up being sort of world-serpent/Jörmungandr type deal.


Or I should go with something more fitting to my chain, in which case it's probably something to do with Prisms, White, Color, Lights, Gems, Diamonds, Relaxation, Sleep, Sloth, Creativity, Divinity, Hedonism, Pleasure, Luxury, Benevolence, Amusement.

Not entirely sure what this Primordial should look like though...


Any thoughts on these, Justice?


...a mailbox is not a street sign, captcha.

>>50821147
There's at least two kinds of antivillainy. It can also mean
"A villain with heroic goals, personality traits, and/or virtues. Their desired ends are mostly good, but their means of getting there are evil."
>>50821224
Basically this guy. Utilitarianism with desireable outcomes can make you into an antivillain.

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>>50821224
only if i got a kick ass tv show out of it

>>50821228
I see it as a snake with Mountains for scales which is merely an Armour/projection for A physically normal snake.
>>50821245
This is brilliant, What show is this? it perfectly Demonstrates how to exploit how . Regal wizards are trapped in the wizard paradigm and unable to handle Mundane terrorism.

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>>50821224
Maybe. But I would definitely kill six billion demons for 1000cp.

>>50821228
Maybe like those lizards have frills they use to make themselves look bigger it could be a serpent with the same deal. Have crystal scales that distort light around the serpent like magnifying glasses making it difficult to determine scale and stuff like that.

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>>50821285
Basically, yeah? The small snake would be decently big too, as far as snakes go, but not really unusual in size for Creation.

It's the second idea I have more trouble with.

>>50821327
Hm, that's not a bad idea... I can definitely work with that.


Thanks.

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>>50821228
Not Justice, but-you were basically playing Devil-Tiger John Constantine?

Because that's.

That's goddamn terrifying.

Also by the sound of things I'm getting a mix of Seath, an axolotl, and the Aztec deity Quetzocoatl (bigass feathered snake, who's sometimes a dude) as one possible shintai. Though by the sound of things he'd likely have other more abstract ones.

Maybe the ultimate jouten one could be like that mountain range-sized dragon in DS3's Archdrake Peak. Just, this massive dragon-shaped mass of crystals that just lies there head in the literal clouds, but instead of rock having a hide of pale crystal and studded with rainbow gems that UMI the crap out of explorers with greed that degenereates into a dreamlike fugue state. Like if a dragon was his own hoard, and every gem in the hoard was the Arkenstone.

Though speaking of Exalted, I couldn't stop thinking about Christmas and Yozis, so I wrote some E5 Charms wondering what on earth would come about from exposing Yozis to Christmas: http://pastebin.com/jC7emkPd

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>>50821285
fate/zero
wizards have a death battle because reasons.
main dude works for a wizard family, uses guns.
awesomeness ensues. His son grows up to be a badass also

>>50821285
>This is brilliant, What show is this? it perfectly Demonstrates how to exploit how . Regal wizards are trapped in the wizard paradigm and unable to handle Mundane terrorism.
Fate/Zero

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>>50821228
>Masks
Is wrong that I picked that theme as well?

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>>50821364
> His son grows up to be a badass also

That's pretty debatable with his current version. Maybe his future version.

>>50821228
>>50821358
Devil-Tiger theme can be that many? I thought it is something simple that represent you like "Making the impossible, possible"

>>50821411
If you rely on meme pictures that ignore the context of what he actually says, sure, he's not badass. But the guy has gone up against powerful Servants fully knowing what he's getting into and still fought on. Held his own against a Servants even without memory leeching or Archer's arm. Fought for a girl he loved even when he forgot she ever existed because he loved her so much. Foguht through Angra Mainyu's mud to save someone he cared for. And a fair number of other badass things.

Guy might not be edgy magic batman like Kiritsugu but he's a badass in his own right.

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>>50821364
>>50821411
>>50821449
I prefer this Shirou, the Shirou that was raised by Kotomine. Best Shirou.

>>50821426
It does seem a bit weird to have 16 concepts.

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>>50821449
>Fought for a girl he loved even when he forgot she ever existed because he loved her so much.

I see.

>>50821458
Mate, you might want to actually know what you're talking about.

That Shirou is a guy called Amakusa Shirou who was summoned as a Servant in the AU version of the 4th Holy Grail War. He lived after the end and basically got Kotomine Risei to give him room, board and a last name so no one would suspect him. He's not raised by Kirei Kotomine in the slightest and in fact barely interacted with his adopted brother. He;s not even Shirou, just a guy who looks like him.

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>>50821485
what in the fuck

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>>50821426
Yeah. Primordials tend to have one thing that's very broad and have lots of sub-themes, like how the Ebon Dragon is the primordial of shadows. Which encompasses things like corruption and manipulation and freedom and opposition as well as just being really dark and spooky.

>>50821224
Man, after all this is over I'm getting a drink with Kerry.

>>50821473
She was going crazy and turning into the black evil mud god so she radiated horrible conceptual poison, which he basically had to power through to talk to her and pull a Frisk. Except unlike Frisk, Shirou doesn't have DETERMINATION, just stupid amounts of determination.

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>>50821493
Don't worry about it, it's kind of a trend that the later Fate franchises reference the crap out of the earlier ones for fanservice reasons. With the most contrived in-universe reasons imagineable to justify how (totally unrelated character) just happens to EXACTLY like (early Nasu works character) but is far more powerful/skilled/experienced/generally "cooler".

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>>50821485
Now I'm sad... no Shirou's mapo tofu UBW then.

>>50821511
Not really in this case? I'm fairly sure it was a purposeful move to mislead people early on since his real identity as a Servant was a big reveal later on.

You seem like you've got a bit of aimless hate for the series sometimes, especially since that last part of your post is something I don't think ever really applies.

>>50821496
>Yeah. Primordials tend to have one thing that's very broad and have lots of sub-themes,
>DETERMINATION
Can that be a Devil-Tiger theme?

Have you ever 'freed' some dangerous entity?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GncZbgHNtxg

>>50821496
But that's like 6 related themes, not 16 different themes, only some of which are related.

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>>50821358
>Not Justice, but-you were basically playing Devil-Tiger John Constantine?
Yes. Yes, I was. It was great.

Also, that sounds pretty good. Could use that.

>http://pastebin.com/jC7emkPd
These seem... interesting. Very fun.

>>50821400
Not at all. It was a minor theme for my guy.

Besides, masks can fit a variety of things. Mine has them there just to fit with the 'pretending to be something else/greater' stuff.

>>50821426
>>50821459
>>50821560
Primordial themes are... pretty broad. They encompass your Primordial's appearance, behavior, and all that stuff. My list's actually fairly short compared to canon.

You could distill my stuff to the core of "Bluffing" or "Pretending to be Mighty" too.


Malfeas is the Demon City, and his themes are all of these:

Malfeas: cities, cyclopean architecture, vastness, arrogance, hubris, glory, terror, callousness, cruelty, rage, self-loathing, self-harm, pain, power, authority, tyranny, war, the green sun, the Slayer Caste, promontories, palaces, monuments, armories, daiklaves, razor harnesses, drums, horns, cymbals, the riwannon, brass, green iron, emeralds, black marble, basalt

...And then his charms further include magic radiation, and radiation sickness, and crowns, and spears.

>>50821541
Sure. Depends on what you do with it.

>>50821613
A lot of those could probably be combined into fewer ones.

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>>50821539
I have different opinions about different installments of the Fate franchise. As a general rule I prefer Nasu's earlier works to the later ones where fanservice became more of a priority. KnK will probably always take the cake, and after all's said and done Z and SN solidy share second place for me because I've yet to read the Tsukihime visual novel.

And if you are who you think I am you seem like an awfully defensive fanboy and unwilling to admit it has any flaws whatsoever, and we've had this conversation before. You can call it stellar writing, and I can call it a blatent piece nostalgia fanservice to get otaku bucks. I doubt we can even agree to disagree on that front.

And it wasn't productive then, and I doubt it will be now.

>>50821541
I think that sort of theme's the kind that's broad enough to be shared by multiple ones. I mean, lots of the Reclaimation Yozis are characterised as very determined people in their own ways.

>>50821560
Emphasis on "things like", he definitely has more written up in either the Broken Winged Crane or the Ink Monkeys collection.

>>50821613
>>50821637
As Devil-Tiger can you act outside your theme or are like Primordial and can't change, so you will always be the you at the point of your ascension as Devil-Tiger, unchanging till the end?

>>50821637
Just seems like you leaping to judge something you haven't read again, considering your post didn't really apply to the situation and was just you using it as a chance to shit on the series more.

If you want more details. Amakusa Shiro is based on an actual person and the most he and Shirou Emiya share is that their faces look alike. The resemblance is purposefully used so that the surprise of who and what he is later is actually a surprise. Unlike your post, there are no contrived reasons connecting them at all and even what does connect Apocrypha and the rest of the Fate series barely comes up at all. But you'd know that if you knew what you were talking about instead of just mindlessly shitting on it because it's not Kara no Kyokai.

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>>50821680
...I'm not sure how this hasn't been made clear from my general tone and statement, but no.

No, I don't particularly want more details about the details franchise I have come to hold in amused contempt. Nor do I want to discuss them with someone obviously biased in favor of the franchise's direction. Here's something you fail to understand: I know the reasoning. My contempt for it comes from a Doyalist perspective, not a Watsonian one.

>>50821676
Oh yes, that's the most obvious and main advantage of a DT: You can act and think outside your themes with no penalty beyond your Charms possibly not being very designed for them depending on how you've developed them, and in theory it should be much easier for you to design appropriate Charms to do so than the Primordials of old.

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>>50821621
Such as?

It's also not really the point to have fewer thematics, but to make a functioning whole out of it.


...Also, I'm getting the feeling my two themes are getting mixed together? The Serpent stuff and the Prisms thing were supposed to be seperate Devil Tigers.

>>50821676
You can act outside your theme.

But your theme itself is unchanging like a Primordial's.

>>50821715
So you really are just shitting on something because it superficially resembles other cases you dislike and refusing to listen even when someone explains how it is not like those other cases. Bit of a dick aren't you? Though I suppose I should have realise that when you kept going on about me being a fanboy and thinking the series was perfect.

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>>50821733
Eh, depends on how much you wanna emphasise each really. Personally I think they can mesh well together, though inevitably one of those themes going to define your DT more than the other. But as a whole, they work well together. Like peanut butter and jelly.

Which I've...never actually tried. Huh.

If you're physically immortal, do you age normally until you reach adulthood and then stop, or will you be a child for the entire jump if you roll low on age?

>>50821805
Depends on the kind of physical immortality you've got, they tend to work differently across fiction.

>>50821805
Depends on the kind of immortality.

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>>50818835
I flip around music genres all the time, so it's hard to pin down just what I might have playing at a given moment. But here's a few good ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9chF9gYZqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q45h7UgYh9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzMD065HEk

>>50818884
More Companion slots. The answer is always more Companion slots.

Barring that... A do-over for his time in Gravity Falls.

>>50818901
>Builds
No builds. Secret project instead. It won't be done by Christmas, but possibly by the New Year. No, I won't tell. Be patient.

>>50821955
Be less condescending.

>>50821964
Take your own advice.

>>50821810
>>50821812
I'm wondering, specifically, about the apple from Narnia.

I'm split between two builds, and having to use shapeshifting to simulate aging, if it really does keep child jumpers from growing up, might be enough to push it one way or the other.

For adults it's not a big deal, since most people will just assume you've got really good genes if you don't visibly age as an adult, but things'll get weird if the 16 year old still looks 11.

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>>50821964
>MFW

>>50819717
About 20,000, If I read the dragonblood book right. Half of them dynasts. They created about 10,000 initially, then had them breed...

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>>50821978
The apple? Well, I don't think there are any hard and fast rules about how it works. If we assume it's comparable to the ones in the books, Jadis said she felt like she could never grow old, which doesn't really answer the question. Diggory feeds one to his sick mother later and she just recovers from her illness. It seems very defined by the user's will and whether or not they plucked it with Aslan's approval.

...then again that might not be a good assumption, considering those apples don't grant immortality on Earth at all.

Which was a longass way to say there's no clear answer, sorry.

>>50822051
>there's no clear answer
If no one else has a better answer, I'm just going to go ahead and assume it works the way I want it to.

>>50820548
Well, or they care about something enough (some intimacies/motivation) that they agree with your logic and reject it anyway. Persuading a gate guard to let you through, ok. Persuading a gate guard whose daughter will be killed if he lets anyone not on the list through? He'll use his willpower.

It's just that important people tend to be the ones with that kind of situation.

>>50822096
There's other immortality perks. I think the one in Hero Cooperation Union Exchange Bulletin Board works like you want.

>>50822210
Hero BBS freezes you at the point you gain it, see: Eternal Loli.

>>50820338
my chance you'll just post the version you have now without notes if it's already jumpable?

>>50822294
Any*

>>50822294
It's not really jumpable, even once they're done. Once I finish notes I've gotta go over it and fix any problems I see, see if there's anything left that I wanna add and then ask a few people I trust to look over and tell me what they think and make any changes I think are needed then. Probably stupid of me to have put a set date on the release of this.

I mean, if you want I can post it but your build would probably get screwed over if I decided to make any changes and I wouldn't really pay attention to much critique on it right now.

>>50822449
That's fine, I'm flexible. I just wanted to go ahead and get a rough idea of my build because I have a spot in my chain saved for it.

updating build
V2.3 – AncillaAnon
Titanfall Jumpchain
Wait, hold the dropship! [+100cp]
I'd say don't feed the animals... +200
Titan Fallout +300
origin Engineer free
Specialization: command -200
rolled age Roll(3d8)+20:7,2,7,+20 Total:36
faction:Marauder Corps
Frontier Art -100
Scarves and Suits -100
Titan engineering free for engineer
The Icepick free for engineer
What’s this Do? -100 Discount Engineer)
synergy of man and machine -200 discounted for engineer
cheaper by the dozens -300 discounted for engineer
playbook -100
pilot weapon:Smart Pistol MK5,Longbow -DMR sniper,EVA-8 shotgun -100
Anti-Titan Weapon:Mag Launcher ,Archer Heavy Rocket
free for engineer
CP to TP/SP Conversion-400=+1600 SP
Titan chassis:ogre free
Titan ordinance:multi target missile system free Free
particle wall free for engineer
Titan weaponry:XO-16 Chaingun Free
Core Ability :Missile Core Free
Cooper is my Pilot-200 TP
The Odyssey:import LoT-400 400 taken from stipend
+1000sp
Size Upgrade: height -800
Size Upgrade: length-800
Missile Pods -200sp
Coaxial Cannon -400sp
Factory Module -400SP
Titan hangar free

>>50822508
http://pastebin.com/JQxAbHKB

Here you go.

>>50822691
I'm sure someone's asked this but what are you doing about the servant supplement Val?

>>50822749
Updating it after FSN is finished. It'll probably happen a couple days after this one is done? Maybe more. Most of the new stuff is already added, so it'd mostly just be boring updating it with new content or reformatting it so it's not laid out in the most confusing way ever.

>>50822691
Thanks.

>>50822691
So we couldn't choose a clone of Iskander's Marble as ours?

>>50822909
You could get a weaker one if you'd like but you wouldn't get the same level as his is, sincehis is EX rank while the one you get through the perk is A++ rank at most.

>>50822940
Would stacking two of them work? Or would I need three?

>>50822979
Depends on how you make stacking work I guess.

>>50823006
How would you think tacking should work?

>>50822979
doesn't having multiple reality marbles mean you have Disassociative identity disorder?

>>50823017
I usually go with additive. Seems simplest to me and math just makes my headache after a while.

>>50823020
Only if they do different things. And the one in the new FSN doesn't affect you at all.