Where were you when GW made 40k great again?

2016 sure has been one heck of year.

>>50795410
If I ever make a 40k general I'm using this pic but with the logo instead of crusading.

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>>50795429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xIe1tPtyAk

LETS SAVE CADIA AND GET THE BAND BACK TOGETHER

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>>50795410
I was at work. I saw the new Saint Celestine and Seraphim twins and I immediately posted about it on /tg/.

>>50795410
>Black Templars teaming up with Dark Eldar

Dunno, I'll let you know when they do.

>>50795829
So are the Mechanicum. Everyone's teaming up with the Dark Eldar these days, it's what the cool kids do.

>>50795410
>Made 40k great again
You know what's going to happen is that BT-Celestine teamup is just going to job hard in a (doomed) attempt to make Abbadon look cool. GW will fuck this up like they always do.

>>50795968

Ours memes will become real

>Creed somehow ambushes the forces of chaos with hidden titan legions on cadia
>Celestine cuts off abbadons arms
>Tankred foresaw the day with with 2 sister of battle twins by celestines side
>Blood Ravens save the day with an insane number of drop pod bombardment
>Sly Marbo does something insane by himself

I still don't get the random Incubi in the back.

>>50795852
You card.

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>>50796094
Everybody's teaming up to kick Abaddon's ass.

>>50796094
Inquisitor hires a Dark Eldar tour guide to travel the webway, why? Who knows, maybe theres some chaos fuckery going on, maybe its the only way to bail out the Templars and have them work for you, maybe they're on a rescue mission to get Celestine back and then go to Cadia to skullfuck heretics.

>>50795410
Should be "fall in," since they're marching and not in a vehicle.

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>>50798101
Yeah, okay, that's a valid point.

How do you like it with white lettering? More readable or less?

>>50798312

Yeah, it seems easier to read IMO.

>>50798312
Lose the retard font.

>>50798312

I dont know why but I just love the oringinal art

You got an inquisitor with these 2 badass looking marines and they are all probably going to do something crazy

Are the rules still bad?

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>>50795968
>Mfw GW "Talon Of Horus"'s it up by having Topknot and Khayon, Khan of the Mary Sues, beat everybody and outsmart Creed with no effort because they think they can undo years of setting stagnation induced memery by shoving in a bunch of undeserved and unjustified "accomplishments" and statements about powerlevel and Mcguffin swords.

>>50798352
That font is awesome.

GW made 40K great again just like they made WHFB great again. This isn't going to last long folks, they are end time-sing 40k. Mark my words.

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>>50798714
no

>>50798741
They said that about fantasy too. Plus the next edition is supposedly set after 13th black crusade so either chaos gets fucked once again or it is really the end of days. Plus it would make sense marketing wise because from what I've heard the next edition will completely shake things up. This is a repeat of what we saw two years ago.

>>50798811
>Plus it would make sense marketing wise because from what I've heard the next edition will completely shake things up.
Considering the GW fanbase, shaking things up seems like the worst thing you could possibly do.

>>50798865
GW's also under different management now than it was when they pulled that Endtimes bullshit to nuke the WFB setting. Rountree seems more interested in giving fans what they want, rather than telling them what to buy like Kirby did.

>>50798811

Its litterally

2 minutes till midnight

Now its 11:59

If endtimes does happen we are gonna start an actual 40k cannon /tg/ edition but no meme shit this time

>>50798865
Are they not still pushing AOS?

>>50798893
Could backfire though.
People keep asking for 'advancing the timeline', which imo is the worst thing you could do.
It's always written as being on the brink of ruin if you consequentially move forward you have to destroy the setting or pull another 'and in the end everything was as it was before again' stunt.

40k is a sandbox and a setting first, not a story.
The story thing should be covered by the HH and everything leading up to the status quo.

>>50798937
I kind of want them to nuke 40k then

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>>50798937

A non memey 40k /tg/ cannon? I dunno sounds like its destined to fail and people will still add memes in and knowing this community no one will like it.

All 40k endtimes will do is just drive out all the people in the community who are into the lore/videogames and some will say this is a good thing


If this entire thing doesnt affect the TT 40k fans they literally will not care while lorefags just flip out over cannon issues for like 2 months and the 40k lore community will dwindle and effectively have most of the 40k posting on /tg/ routed back to the general since no one can discuss lore anymore.

Some will call this a good thing others wont but face TTfags never gave a shit about the lore most of the time while this eliminates 75% of the cancer from the 40k community.

Depending on where you stand this is either the greatest news ever or the worst.

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>>50799073

Holy fuck I havent thought of that if they do just nuke the lore /tg/ will super shitty for like 3 months and then everyone forgets it and 40k will actually be only discussed on its general.

>>50795474
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65GSQPRhhw
Thread theme

>>50799073
Well if GW end times' 40k I will be happy because better models (no restrictions) and use homebrew rules (which you should use now anyway) and old or /tg/ fluff. SOLVED.

>>50798811
>so either chaos gets fucked once again
You said it yourself. Like always chaos is going to get the short end of the straw because GW can't do their own fluff right.

>>50799162
40k won't go full AoS if the Endtimes it. If anything, we'll get an Imperium Secundus setting for a few years, especially if they bring back Roboute for this latest Black Crusade.

Who else wants to see a 20k setting?

>50795829


I think I figured out that dark eldar being in the picture.

>Inquisitor strikes a deal with DE
>Gets a fuck HUGE BT strike force
>They are using the webway to instantly teleport onto Cadia to fuck chaos fags

>>50795410
On my couch masturbating to futa angel porn.

>>50799241
When Horus Heresy runs its course, I want a Unification War setting where I can unironically play Mericans.

Dubs says Orks get some plot advancement in 2017.

Trips says the models don't suck

Quads and above says they stop being side-characters.

>>50798312
Much improved.

>>50799289
Dubs say orks are wiped out forever

>>50799307
Dubs confirmed Orks get squatted without another word.

>>50799307
Dubs says Celestine is worth the money

>>50799325
Trips says I'm hard as a rock right now.

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>>50799325
>>50799307
>>50799315
>>50799341


Dubs say 2017 40k will become suddenly better and possibly even greater than before

>>50799241
How would that work? I'm genuinely interested now

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>>50799357

Dubs says cadia doesnt fall and chaos btfo

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>>50799341

>Abaddon will reach Terra
>The Emperor will return and kick his ass, then die for reals
>The Imperium will be thrown into disarray, victorious but leaderless
>New status quo will be the same as the old status quo, except now there'll be a full Codex: Custodes to deal with all the daemons pouring out of the Golden Throne
Screencap this post.

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>>50795410
I want to be excited, but then I remember what happened to Fantasy.

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>>50799382
Repeating digits say Cadia falls after the demon primarchs burst out of the warp to help Abaddon, new status quo is a chaos swarming the Imperium and everyone scrambling to defend and stall Abaddon's march to Terra.

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dubs trips or i dunno whatever where nothing literally happens

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>>50799357
Dubs says the Mechanicus will save the day with some new awesome STC tech.

>>50799466
Observed.

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>>50799466

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>>50799408
>except now there'll be a full Codex: Custodes to deal with all the daemons pouring out of the Golden Throne
But what about the daemons pouring out of everywhere?

A rhetorical question. Just because this line has been in every edition since the 80s doesn't mean it's immune to retcon if GW decides it's inconvenient.

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>>50799466

You heard it here folks

Literally nothing will happen and we are over reacting

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Foolish Heretics.

Digits say Abaddon almost sacks Cadia due to BTs showing up a little late, only for the Sisters to arrive with Celestine and begin murdering the heretics alongside the Templar.

>>50799499
I think this vastly overestimates the Emperor's importance in protecting humanity from the Warp. We managed just fine without him before he became a god.

>>50799539
>I think this vastly overestimates the Emperor's importance in protecting humanity from the Warp.
Sure, I'll just phone up Priestley and tell him the line he put in core fluff of the setting he created that's been reprinted in every successive edition is wrong.

>>50799466
Witnessed

>>50799539
>We managed just fine without him

Except that one time humanity's robots rebelled and skullfucked us almost to death, but we got better.

Until that other time psykers started exploding left and right and becoming still-living portals for demons to come and rape humanity, but I guess humanity lived after that.

>>50799577
Witnessed

>>50799588
Witnessed.

>>50799574
Please do. While you're at it, tell him I said he's a fag.

hi can i have digits too?

IF DUBS THE EMPEROR WILLS HIMSELF BACK TO FLESH AND GOES ON THE GREAT CRUSADE 2.0

>>50799622
Witnessed

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>>50799622
>>50799644
>>50799577
>>50799588
>>50799466

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

WHATS GOING ON

>>50799644
witnessed

gimme some dubs, omnissiah

>>50799653
The meme magic is real. We're going crusading.

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>>50799663

but so far the only meme magic coming is that nothing is going to happen

Are there rules for Unification era, official or otherwise?

>>50799669
That's the magic.

>>50799669
>So kek wills it, so it shall come to pass

>>50799669

Thats the best outcome for this entire situation

Repeating digits cancels all previous predictions: something WILL happen.

>>50799739
nah. nothing's happening

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>>50799466

CHAOS FAGS BTFO

IMPERIALFAGS BTFO

PEOPLE WHO WANT 40K LORE TO ADVANCE BTFO

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>>50799661
Two pair, just for you

>>50799717
So what's the meme?

>>50799778

That everyone is overeacting and nothing will happen in this 13th black crusade

Dubs and we get some awesome /tg/ 40k homebrew before the end of the year.

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>>50799778
TWINS THEY WERE

>>50799428
Double digits says BT and Celestine lead the survivors from Cadia back to the Imperium to prepare for the final battle on Terra.

>>50799800
TANKRED CONFIRMED TO KICK ABBYS ASS

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>>50799800
Tankred has witnessed these digits.

>>50799792
You get that for free:

There once was a little boy named Gordon Weatherall. However all his friends just called him GW. See now GW refused to put out good chaos models because they are all either fucking aweful (current range) or spazzy (AOS+TS). GW also can't put out good rules for chaos that aren't copied from SM. That is why GW is inquisitor #1.

>>50799800
>>50799833
ABSOLUTE MADNOUGHT

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>>50799833
>>50799800


OFFICIAL TANKRED MODEL SOON

>>50799800
>>50799833
The meme magic is strong in this thread.

>>50799816
>Celestine and friends are glorified bodyguards to the big players
>and thus, in M2.017 the Chaosgod of butthurt was born through sisterfags everywhere

>>50799800
Witnessed, they were indeed twins.

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>>50799800
>>50799833
TANKRED OBSERVES!

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>>50795410
I'm sorry, anons. I've just gotta restate something we all already know.

SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR CELESTINE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

>>50799800
>>50799833
Brb, gotta start a Black Templars army with Tankred in it

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>>50795410
did they anounce that 4th edition is coming back or what?

so do we screencap this thread as a reference or

>>50800005
So close, anon. So close. Pray to Tankred for additional digits.

Https://youtu.be/GaUi8Dv73hA
>>50799502
Not doubles but someone screencap this in the off chance he's right

>>50799502

Personally, I think Cadia falls, Templars move in to reclaim, get pushed back, Celestine shows up with Sisters, and they start pushing back. However, the damage is done, and they can't stop most of the fleets from getting by.

>>50800119
I would cum golden buckets if he was right.

>>50799792
Dubs says we Bring back the Thread where we try and flesh out existing chapters. I want my Rad Marines Deathwatch stats.

Trips says 8th edition drops, and fixes everything.

>>50800211
Observed, Commissar.

Nothing will truly change. Only a slight shift forward in the timeline.

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>>50800185
I just want to see Celestine one-shotting greater daemons with her bling while templars shred heretics below and sisters rain bolts from the sky.

>>50800211
Observed.

Any repeating digits says we get a new specialist game.

>>50795410
If digits, Necrons will do something cool.

>>50800211
>>50800274

Dubs says we get a specialist game

Trips says we see new 40k RPG's that are just as good, if not better than FFG's

Quads and all of the above happens plus 8th edition.

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>>50800559
Repeating digits & squats will return

>>50800260

I love that her position relative to the chaos army implies that she is destroying them from a flank.

>>50800599
You idiot

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>>50800599
...dubs and doomrider comes back.

>>50800599
Trips confirms

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Dubs say that Ultramarines will save the day.

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Dubs will decide if the Rak'Gol get models.

>>50800683
Smurves BTFO'd

>>50800683
Well, now we know for sure we at least won't have the worst possible ending.

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These digits will prove Sanguinius to be the prettiest.

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>>50800717
Pic related exists

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>>50800599
>Squats

Dubs and 80s hairmetaldar come back

>>50800683
Dubs says Ultramarines get squated.

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>>50800746
Who will update the Squats? Various factions have became extremely different from their roots. Will /tg/ be the writers?

Since this is a templar thread I might get some answers

>550999.M41 The Crusader Thwarted

>High Marshal Helbrecht of the Black Templars, in pursuit of the Ork Warlord Ghazghkull Thraka, leads a fleet forged from fifteen Space Marine Chapters against a splinter tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan which is barring his path. Despite employing every strategy and ploy at his disposal, Helbrecht’s fleet is continually forced to fall back before the Tyranid advance. His mounting ire matches the rising numbers of the Space Marines lost to the Leviathan.

Can you guys justify the templar abandoning the fight against the Tyranids and going to Cadia? Because of the templar desertion, many Imperial worlds will be devoured.

>>50800763

just make squats IG abhumans

bam done

>>50800764
The Archenemy is more important than a bug problem.

>>50800756
Damn close.

dubs says dark angels are the best chapter

The Emperor's revival is imminent.

>>50800746
Dubs and 80's hair band noise marines return.

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Dubs say Ultramarines will destroy the Tau.

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>>50800802
Dubs say Ultramarines will destroy the Orks.

>>50800819
>>50800802
Dubs say Ultramarines destroy themselves.

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>>50800819
Dubs say Ultramarines will destroy the Eldar?

>>50800802
>>50800819
>>50800825
Squats will destroy all.

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>>50800829
Dubs will please say that Ultramarines destroy the Necrons?

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>>50800833
And an ultramarine ain't one.

Good job anon, you stole the dubs from the ultrafucks.

>>50800599
>>50800833
It appears that the digits favor the Squats.

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>>50800833

>>50800802
>>50800819
>>50800829
>>50800840
trips say ultramarines are cucks and gulliman is worst primarch

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Dubs say Night Lords become relevant in the overall plot.

>>50800855
It seems the numbers really hate the Ultramarines.

>>50800867

>implying any Chapter with a dead Primarch will become relevant

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>>50800840
Will dubs pretty please say that Ultramarines destroy the Dark Eldar? C'mon they aren't even a major faction.

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>>50800867
Aw.

>>50800880
For all we know, the UltraSquats will destroy Chaos.

>>50800877
Wait, does this mean the Blood Angels, Iron Hands, and Black Legion are out too?

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>>50800880
Dubs for the Ultramarines destroying the Genestealers?

Can we have anything?

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>>50800911
GUILLIMAN HAS SPOKEN

THE CODEX IS THE TRUTH

WE SHALL DESTROY THE GENESTEALERS?

>>50800926
But anon, they'll only be cleaning up after the Squats.

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Repeating digits of some variety for Mechanicus domination

>>50800911
>911

Hold the fuckin phone, Ultracucks had to dial 911 to get anything from meme magic.

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Dubs for Iron Warriors not getting the shit kicked out of them for once.

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>>50800975
Sorry, cousin.
One more roll for Night Lords for the hell of it.

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>>50800911
>911
>hey its the ultracucks
>we need something man, anything
BTFO

I hope Cadia is destroyed with Abbadon on it.

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>>50800986
We don't get any love at all. GW hates us all. ;-;

I-i-iron within iron without?

>>50800911
Congrats. You've destroyed A genestealer cult. I hope you feel proud?

Dubs for SoBs saving Cadia

>>50801033
The digits are pleased with you.

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Boreal isn't actually dead.

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>>50801033
THE UNBREAKABLE LITANY HOLDS TRUE

FROM IRON COMETH STRENGTH
FROM STRENGTH COMETH WILL
FROM WILL COMETH FAITH
FROM FAITH COMETH HONOUR
FROM HONOUR COMETH IRON

IRON, IRON, IRON!

>>50801068
Dubs say Boreal was raped to death by __me_

>>50801029
this is actually...a decent plot line.

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There will be a Cain vs Eldar book.

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The Emperor is secretly gay for /tg/

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>>50801074
>>50801033
THIS THREAD NOW BELONGS TO THE FOURTH LEGION

https://youtu.be/Oz-dbPYUba4

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Dubs & Angry Marines are canon.

>>50798811
Someone from within the deisng Studio asked me if Games Workshop would really let space marines lose.

Theres not going to be a massively significant change

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Russ will return on the side of Chaos.

>>50801112
So close.

>>50801130
The digits saying the Squats return will be a big change.

Dubs and the Emperor is actually Alpharius.

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>>50801158
Chris?

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>>50801120
KILL THE FISTS

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>>50801171
THE GALAXY SHALL BE BENT TO OUR WILL, ALL WILL SUBMIT OR PERISH. NOT EVEN THE GODS WILL BE SAFE FROM OUR WRATH.

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The Blood Ravens will steal their enemies Diamond Dogs Style.

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>>50801033
>>50801188
THE WARP HAS SPOKEN

WE SHALL ENSLAVE ALL!

>>50801188
Well shit it's the iron revolution.

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>>50801188
Will the Squats be safe?

>>50801206
The Squats are the Iron Warriors. Always were.

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I have faith it will finally be a good year to be a Black Templar. Praise be!

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>>50800772
Dubs will confirm that Dark Angels are the ONLY Chapter.

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>>50801232
its always a good year to be a Templar

>>50801151
The change to 40k is in narrative style and army books, not the setting wide overhall and simplication of rules that fantasy saw.

Is what I meant to say.

>>50801127
Angry marines ARE canon. They just wear black and red.

>>50801258
Well that's a relief.

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Pic related is tasty

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>>50801188
Glory to the Fourth!

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>>50801246
The Dark Angels will the death of the Ultramarines.

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>>50801188
POST MORE IRON FOR PERTURABO

(Wait, why do we even care about that fuckhead anyway?)

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Slaanesh is actually Tomaru Sawagoe

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>>50801334

>>50801345
>345
What does this mean?

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>>50801349

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Necrons make tasty cakes

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Gotrek is still alive & slaughtering daemons.

Dubs and Shoggy's Guardsmen Party gets a mention in some official fluff.

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Digits & Tomb Kings will be next in Total War Warhammer.

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Dubs & Malal

Dubs and Blood Ravens get a codex that proves they are descendants of the loyalist remnants of the 1k Sons.

>>50801469
I'd rather they be 40k Diamond Dogs. They steal enough shit.

>>50801463
Dubs and Order Gods happen.

>>50801477
And so it shall be, brother.

>>50801496
>Blood Ravens stealing their enemies
>Blood Ravens stealing enemy metal boxes
>Blood Ravens getting their game incomplete

WHEN THE MECHANICUM RISES

THEN THEY SHALL REALIZE

>>50801511
>Blood Ravens stealing Iron's Thread.

>>50799263
Whoa, me too

>>50801522
The digits have spoken. Either that or the Blood Ravens stole them from everyone else.

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>>50801522
Fuckoff you cunts.This is our thread.

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>>50801544
Nice dubs, they're a treasure worth acquiring.

>>50801541
There's a difference?

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>>50801544
Not if we steal your warp fuckery for ourselves and the Emprah!

>>50801565
Well go ahead and acquire those dubs out of >>508015 then, don't be lazy about- wait, what the hell?

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>>50801587
Would you like your 7 back or your 8?

>>50801597
Blood Ravens FTW.

Can't wait for the lore rape allowing BT, one of the most rabid anti xenos/anti everything chapters to ally with Dark Eldar

Dubs and Blood Ravens steal the UltraSmurfs win right at the end.

>>50801647
>steal
>implying it didn't always belong to the Blood Ravens

>>50801647
How can you steal that which is freely given?

>>50795410
At work, you fucking neet

>>50795410
For you, they made 40k great again
For me, it was tuesday.

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Trips say Dorn BTFO every IW in this thread.

>>50802011
I'm not well versed enough in Kek's worship to interpret this.
Dorn will partially BTFO all the IW?

>>50799241
>>50799270
I want this

I am not sure a Unification wars setting would go down to well, considering how the big E hated religion and a lot of it was burning religious places to the ground and killing all the followers. Can you imagine GW releasing a boxed game promising hours of fun with your friends as you burn churches and mosques to the ground?

>inb4 /pol/ and /tg/ crossposters

>>50798714

Except they'd have a lot to lose by throwing out 40k's lore whereas that wasn't so much the case with Fantasy. Like others have said this is incredibly likely just going to move the clock a minute to midnight before stopping and having that be the next status quo.

>>50798951

Advancing the setting only became bad because GW wrote themselves into a corner years ago where the only possibility was for everything to go south as time marches on.

I've said this before too, but just because you go forward in time does not suddenly turn a setting into a story. I've seriously only seen this argument with regards to 40k and Fantasy because they were both written that way years ago.

>>50802018

No. He's failed, and now must spend the thread getting BTFO in the pain glove for his failure.

You can't stop him. Seriously, dude loves that pain glove.

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>>50801171
>tfw you execute a fist exemplar with an example of a fist
can the game even get saved?

>>50799800
the armor makes them look fat.

>>50796094

Incubi are literally the only trustworthy Dark Eldar. The only confirmed Dark Eldar to "betray" his master is (SPOILERS) the one in the Path of the Dark Eldar series who kills his master when the master becomes possessed by a Greater Daemon, and in response the other Incubi all try to kill him to preserve the honour of their "aspect" even though he literally dindu nuffin wrong/spoiler]

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>>50799974

I wish. Gods I wish.

Come on, GW, do the right thing.

>>50802011

Too late bub, right here we showed how we'll take over the universe and enslave everything. >>50801188

Even the Tyranids will be our sex slaves.

>>50802243
Aside from split costs for ICs/ACs I don't see much improvement there compared to CSM+TL.

>>50802134

GAS THE KIKES/KIKE-ON-STICKS/POST-KIKES, UNIFICATION WARS NOW

>>50802314

It's more just that it was a good book (and the previous one was crap) and nostalgia's strong. Legion rules, Obliterators that didn't suck.

In fairness, I haven't actually played much in years, been too broke.

>>50795410
Focus more on factions other than space marines, as those sell themselves. Ork vs Vostroyans starter box.

Bring back armouries, fix the digital codex layouts, stop adding so many new units to the game, make the classic units like terminators, dreadnoughts, carnifexi, chosen, ork boys, nobs, etc playable again.

force more troop choices, while limiting center piece units like land raiders and riptides.

make space marines stronger, tougher and more expensive across the board, increase the cost of all ap3 and ap2 to make armour worth a damn again. remove the god awful doctrines and bring bake build-your-own-chapter.

bring back abstract terrain rules. let cover stack with armor.

Orks all get +1 attack base. Big update focusing on orks, giving them clan options, more ability to mix and match units with increasing costs per redundant item per squad,

fix the fucking psychic phase. no random warp charges. capped maximum number of warp charges depending on points limit/number of psykers. easier resisting for non-psychic armies.

split leadership into discipline and morale. Fear stuff and regrouping checks vs morale. Pinning, breaking etc checks vs discipline.

reduce the amount of vehicles in the game by increasing their costs. 6 by 4 tables are too small for vehicular combat with more than a few tanks. make vehicles tougher than walkers/squishies, but more limited by terrain. Greatly reduce the impact of flyers ingame. make them present on board for 25~33 % of the game to make them feel more like a support unit. This should make anti air less necessary.

Integrate character progression rules into each codex. advertise campaign play in the books more prominently.

Keep launching national campaigns to tie the playerbase together without needing tournaments.

>>50802226
... it's called power armour. Might want to look it up.

>>50799800
I love how not overdesigned they are, they are literally exactly what we asked for, plastic sisters

>>50802453
>split leadership into discipline and morale. Fear stuff and regrouping checks vs morale. Pinning, breaking etc checks vs discipline.

That seems kinda like a wasted bit of effort.

>>50802466
This allows much greater differentiation between armies, which the game desperately needs. right now all the stat lines and unit behaviors are far too similar, and it allows to actually use the morale system again.

Nowadays, most things have ways to boost their ld, because they are either well trained or fanatical. if you make it possible to distinguish the two, units suddenly aren't all pretty much safe from morale effects, as you can now disorder fanatics or break trained units. This indirectly makes snipers, artillery, morale effects and even melee more important again, where as right now direct damage is usually more effective than trying to break units.

>>50798312
>How do you like it with white lettering? More readable or less?

This one is great

>>50798352
>Lose the retard font.

If you can't handle Gotisk, I'm not sure you're in the right thread.

>>50795410
Even if Cadia falls, does Abbadon even have the forces to fight any protracted campaign against the Imperium let alone invade the Solar System?

>>50798312
>How do you like it with white lettering? More readable or less?
Lewttering is fine.
Consider either dropping the grey dropshadow or replace it with a black one at 50% opacity.

dubs say Ultramarines will be lost to the Warp. Fuck the Smurfs

>>50799615
He said you should have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up.

>>50799800
>no beads on the chaplets
So close.

>>50802782
No, I don't do coke anymore. Makes me anxious.

>>50799800
Where the fuck did these come from?
Source?

>>50802710

The Emperor protects.

>>50799539
>>50799578
You also forget that the guy was around for much longer than 10000 years. He was guiding humanity for millenia as a backseat driver.

And before he was created/born/whatever chaos wasn't that much of a threat for humanity.

>>50803513
He was just a perpetual for most of that time and didn't become a god until he traveled to Molech and cheated the Chaos Gods of their power, right before launching the Unification War.

>>50801029
That's actually a way GW could do it (but they want to sell dem abaddon minis, they hyped him too much) - Cadia falls, Imperium is in full retreat, but Abaddon dies with the planet, so Black Crusade split in dissarray and lots of smaller, themed forces are assulting IoM, while bulk of the forces fight with themselves near expanding EoT.

>Status Quo: Kept.

>>50802178
>and Fantasy because they were both written that way years ago.
They specifically retconned fantasy to justify that chaos was always going to win.

>>50803597
No they didn't.
Chaos was the stated victor since early days, some fantasyfags were just totally delusional.

>>50800737
>>50800717

Digits say they will fuck due of time travel shenaningans and their child will be the new Emphra.

>>50803594

Meanwhile the Craftworld Eldar are been squatted. In the grim darkness of 41.000 there is only Dark Eldar ...

>>50803641
>retcons the results of the most successful wargaming community event ever
>"why don't people like the setting anymore?"

>>50803758

Which event?

>>50803698
I wish your digits were true. I really, really do.

If dubs, Terra is the original Tomb World. It awakens soon.

>>50802453
>>50802466
>>50802508
>implying that Space Marines and AdMech wouldn't have really good scores in both, defeating the point

>>50803758
>>50803774
The Eye of Terror campaign. They made a codex for it and everything.

>>50804083

I'm pretty sure Chaos won that withotu any cheat.

So, how much do you wanna bet that Celestine saves the day by attacking Chaos from behind after flying out of the Eye of Terror?

>>50804322
More likely she hacks a hole in the webway so that she and her Black Templar bros can outflank the Abaddon's forces where he's least expecting it. Cadia is consumed by daemons because that's what happens when you break the webway but the violent upheaval of the Warp and realspace that results cuts off Chaos reinforcement from the Eye of Terror, since there's no longer a stable route out of it.

The Black Crusade is forced to continue iyn to Terra with whatever forces are left, leaving destruction in its wake. Cadia falls as promised.

>>50804104
No, there was cheating. Just not technically. Chaos had the algorithm that GW was using to determine region control leaked to them and optimized their games around that. It was information that was not intended for players.

>>50804322
Witnessed. Dubs say Celestine is warp spawn.

>>50795410

>Again

40k has never been more than "Alright" by most standards

>>50801213
>>50801206
BRB. Putting backpacks on my FW chaos dwarves so I can use them as traitor guard auxiliaries with my IW.

>>50804834
Your opinion is incorrect.

>>50805144

How so? I mean Starcraft wore the setting better, even if it came later. The Grinderp setting is just going full retard now. and the last decent take on the setting happened in the early 90's

>>50805203
>I miss neon gothic 40k
Oh, you're one of those.

>>50805333
Those what? People with good tastes?

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>>50805470
Whatever you say Inquisitor Obi-Wan Sherlock Clouseau.

>>50795410
> Fluff is still inconsistent garbage
> Rules are complete tripe

>>50805333

No I'm one of those that actually likes quality, seriously 40k has quickly become the call of duty of war gaming, new versions damn near every year, armies invalidated left and right to force you to but more models.

The gap between Rogue trader and second edition? 6 years.

Second edition to 3rd edition? 5 years.

Six ed to 7th ed? 2 years, it's damn near annual.

And at best, your getting what, minor rules changes?

40k was actually a fun hair metal setting once. >>50805506 is not a bad example of what was kinda cool about it.

Now it's a setting that shops at hot topic and wears it's hair over it's eyes.

>>50805533

Right Ill never get people who want that shit back

>>50805560

Because you masturbate to pictures of skulls and kitten torture?

>>50805533
>Actually defending Obi-Wan Sherlock Clouseau

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*takes a seat and grabs popcorn*

Oldfags like to pretend things were better in their day even when it wasn't. >>50805203 is actually a perfect example of the "everything new is trash" mindset since his early '90s nostalgia conveniently omits Necromunda, Battlefleet Gothic, 3rd edition fixing everything that was wrong with the rebranded Warhammer Fantasy Battle version of 40k and the first widespread addition of plastic models across all ranges. He's precisely the kind of beardy grognard that thinks there's something ennobling about packing forty pounds of pewrer into your figure case.

Have recent editions been kind of a train wreck? Oh, God, yes. But that has more to do with mismanagement at the corporate level demanding a new starter set every year for one of the three core ranges, and it didn't even get that bad for 40k until they stopped having a new LotR movie every other year to lean on in the mid-2000s.

It's okay to be nostalgic for the games you grew up with, but you're nostalgic for them because you loved them at the time, not because you love them, now. 40k, as both a brand and a setting, is much more vigorous and robust now than it was in the early 90s and a big part of that is because it stopped producing fanfiction tier shit like >>50805506. That doesn't mean that you have love everything about it, or even that there isn't still plenty of fanfiction tier shit to go around - but it's no longer the brand's sole defining characteristic.

So rejoice because you can actually buy a Land Raider if you need one and you no longer need to convert your Imperial grav-attack out of a deodorant bottle. There's a whole new Cult Legion army, Chaos has finally gotten the rules we've wanted for fifteen years and plastic Sisters of Battle are right around the corner. It's a great tone to be a 40k fan and hair metal has nothing to do with it.

>>50798951

They've only literally just bounced back to good profits, they aren't going to fuck themselves over yet but 8th Edition will have changes that will make certain factions REEEEE mark my words on that.

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Digits for the emporer!

So basically some of the most shafted forces in the entire boardgame, being Black Templars, Sisters and Dark Eldar team up with a Magistos and Inquisitor to try and rip Abbaddon's balls off and will sadly lose to his plot armor?

I can fucking get behind this if it means all of those armies will get some more recognition in 8e.

>>50805823
>3rd edition fixing everything that was wrong with the rebranded Warhammer Fantasy Battle version of 40k
Just to chip in, 3rd edition wasn't initially well recieved and didn't get very good until about half way through its lifespan.

People probably don't remember the squats getting canned, but it wasn't limited to them. A lot of armies were basically invalidated right at the same time due to the restrictions in army/unit/wargear choices, paired with a completely different set of (vastly simpler) rules. I've mentioned in the past, but it was basically 40k's AoS. Once more supplementary games and books came out people started warming up to it, but the beginning was a train wreck.

>>50795410
>Inb4 it's an excuse to throw the sisters and Templar into the meat grinder to get rid of two old armies they're sick of and make Abaddon not look like a complete failure, this killing multiple birds with one stone

mark my words, it's the only way they could possibly redeem that armless fuckup

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>>50795410
Dubs and a certain lost Primarch with RIP AND TEAR the Chaos Gods apart.

>>50795410
What if the Chaos Gods don't want Abaddon to destroy the Imperium? Surely the Imperium unknowingly feeds them with their everyday lives, not just the secret cults. Abaddon destroying it all will be a spectacular increase in sustinence but then a big decrease in the long run. In other words, Black Crusade every now and then > A Mega Black Crusade and no more Crusades nor Imperium. Maybe Abaddon needing to conflict with the very powers he serves will happen.

>>50805923
Yeah, it's pretty metal. I love the idea. Too bad all those factions are going to job hard to the better-selling CSM because money and reasons.

>inb4 Smurfs save the day

Tho it'd be fucking sweet to have Imperial Fists come with Dorn himself leading them to save their brethren and reunite the legion keeping the Templars as their rabid melee shishkebab-making special forces.

>>50806213
Doomguy is not one of that idiots, who are 1000 lbs autistic manchildren with daddy issues and other problems right from teen drama.


I'm kina happy they are removing things that are not "creative" team picks from 40k. Things that I liked are not among them and I will leave folowing 40k behind me happily as observing the trainwreck lore and BL writing was lately was fucking sad and relatively expansive as TG stuff goes.

>>50805992
It was a rough time, to be sure, but codices started coming hot and heavy right after 3rd launched. There are some damn key similarities between the handling of 3rd and AoS (it was also a major rebranding of the game), including the consolidation of all the armies that made the cut into crappy get-you-by lists in the rulebook, itself; but codices, proper codices, started coming out hot and heavy after that. It would still be a few years until everybody got an update but there were still new rules being published regularly in White Dwarf at that time. Necrons got their first real army list for 3rd edition in White Dwarf, for instance.

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Someone come get us when this whole thing blows over.

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>>50806213
>>50806354
Didn't someone do homebrew stats for the Doom Slayer?
How could I make the Doom Slayer in 40k?

>>50806452
>but codices, proper codices, started coming out hot and heavy after that.
Right, and many were garbage. There was a shit ton of supplementary stuff eventually released (largely because those codexes were naff), but as I said the first half of 3rd edition's run was not very pretty.

Chapter Approved, Index Astartes, the later second Chaos codex.. those were amazing rules additions and pretty much why 3rd edition can be remembered in a positive light, but there were years of third edition without that kind of support.

>>50806593
If all we take away from 3rd was Chapter Approved, it was worth it.

>>50802626
Alright, I'll give that a try. Keep this thread alive until I get home in two hours.

>>50806565
There should be. I mean I found someone making stats for Ranger/Quakeguy. Some already must had done some to Doomguy.

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>Even with the BTs and SoBs driving Chaos back on Cadia, the Traitor fleets threaten to break the cordon and flood into the Segmentum
>Suddenly, the Rock and the combined swordfleets of the Dark Angels and fifty successor Chapters charge out of the immaterium and drive into the Enemy's flanks.
Cypher once again executes Abbadon's Chosen right in front of him.

The time has come.

>>50805910
May lorgar check my 6.

>>50807704
You should be more worried about what the Lords of Terra will do now that everyone knows about the Fallens

>>50807704
BT, Cawl and Celestine seem to be on a secret mission through the webway so I dont think they'll be fighting in Cadia but rather a fight thats important to the Cadian front. Like getting a gizmo out or fighting chaos in a new front.

>>50808413
Sauce on that bit of fluff? I wanna read it.

>>50795410
Probably tending to my children ten years from now, because 40K, as a ruleset, isn't great (and never really was) while the fluff just saw the release of a book series that
states Ullanor being the ork homeworld or something
some Mechanicus douchenozzle used asspull archeotech to teleport it away from destruction
and renamed it Armageddon

That whole series of books needs to burn.

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DUBS SAY BASED LORGAR WAKES UP AND IS RELEVANT ALONG WITH BEST LEGION OF GHAZI HOLY WARRIORS

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>>50808604
JUST

>>50807969
>>50808604
>>50808626
Wordfags repeatedly and vigorously BTFO

>>50808666
POTTERY
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>>50808666
>even satan hates the fag bearers

Wait, what changed?

Been out of the hobby for awhile, about all I know is Kirby is gone, and Celestine is back, and we're having another Eye of Terror campaign?

GW bring back battle bunkers wahhhh

>>50808364
Sounfs like the perfect sequel hook to end it on

>>50808666
Devilishly rekt

>>50808364
If they would rather order our destruction and divert vital forces from the front to hunt us down, they are free to do so; we will continue to fight the Archenemy.

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>>50802626
Thoughts?

>>50809154
>the Archenemy
The False Emperor?