Why is American Larping so lame?

>>50784454
American culture is centered around the individual
European is centered around the community

>>50784454
LARPing is considered a pretty childish hobby in America, so a large part of the people who engage in it are the most autistic of basement-dwelling manchildren and failsons. Social stigma keeps most others away, unless they have a genuine passion for it... but unfortunately they're a minority compared to the people who see it as glorified cosplay.

>>50784454
Because it's just playing pretend
Of course Tabletop rpg is also playing pretends but it's way more acceptable and less autistic than larping

>nobody ever enforces strict dress code
>calling numbers in combat breaks immersion
>Many systems allow a lot of cringey shit, like fairies and gypsies

>>50784454
Because they confuse "open to all" with "no standards", Price with quality and >>50784917

So Amerilarps tend to have two large groups bored as fuck because they

A) Are just used to waiting in the tavern s daerk coners for the old hermit to beat them over the head with clues to the days event

B) Are forced to play monsters for the day, stuck planting the clues and walking about aimlessly with loot for group A to find and kill them

>>50785246
>http://theawesomer.com/photos/2009/09/092209_larp_1.jpg
I guess if you try to enforce a dress code, some blue haired tumblrina at the larp, dressed in her best doctor who cringesuit is going to call you a bigot or something

>>50784917
Nuh uh. That's not true on the european part.

t. european.

>>50785562
Mediterranean slobs don't count.

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>>50784454
This is a Polish larp

>>50784454
Don't worry, Anon, there are shitty LARPs in Europe too!

>>50784454
lots of reasons, nearly all that is mentioned so far is valid.
Truth to be told it's a complex problem one could write at least three books about it without covering the full subject.
You can't really point at one thing and say "yah, if that would change than larping in the US would be good" because it's a clusterfuck and there are several other problems that holds them back.

Culture is one thing (and not history, which some people try to say)
then there is the money aspect for it, how you guys handle the whole lawsuit things and what are acceptable in legal terms.
Then there is the amount of games, US games try they very best to give the players the least time to get their shit together by making monthly or even weekly games.
Then there are the problem that in the US in the last few years, when larping started to get into the mainstream media, everything get labeled as larp. fucking. everything.
But even before that boffer tags which had little to no roleplaying elements are called larps and now everyone there thinks THAT'S what larping about is.
The US larpers doesn't even have a good universal definition about what counts as larp. As far as I see US people doesn't really good at defining things so everyone has an idea what X thing is but everyone has a DIFFERENT idea and everybody is so damn sure that their idea is the only truth.

As I said it's aclusterfuck.

But that said, european larp isn't a holy grail either it has it's shit moments and people tend to forget that Europe isn't one big happy country, there are fuckon of differences even inside one country let alone between different countries.
But on average, yeah Europe has better looking larps (but some of them aren't even considered a larp by the US larpers, or would considered boring, etc Everyone has their preferences after all)

>>50784454
Because the only historical LARP Americans can do are western and civil war, both of which they're very good at.

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>>50785806
You're not allowed to judge things by setting Poles as the standard.

Not nearly as awful as the entirety of SCA.

bomp

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>>50784454
Seconding everything Hungarian said here >>50786046, as well as >>50785246
and >>50785532

>>50785246
Whats hilarious is that the same tumblrite snowflakes who will argue that middle eastern themed elves are racist, will staunchly defend "shoeless magyk thief gypsies".

>>50787102
Dude, we're the largest medieval social club in the world. That doesn't mean we're the best, but it does mean there is a mixed bag. We do have standards, and as a whole, have been improving the overall quality of kit over the past few decades. As more of the old "good enough in the 70's, good enough now" douchebags die off, we'll get even better.

>>50785806
These kinds of larps are bnaout showing off how much time and money you can waste on fancy costume and acting classes than having fun to be honest.

USA does it right.

>>50790415
>Not realizing the value of actual acting skill or a fancy costume

This is why I want to EuroLARP.

The real answer is space and population density. It's very easy to get all the best LARPers un Hungary together in one place because they're all no more than a couple hours' travel away from each other and feom a nice setting to LARP in. Hell, you could pick the best LARPers and the best location from among dozens of countries all within easy travel of each other. In America everything is spread out mich more and so all the infrastructure is necessarily less efficient. The population centers are far away from each other and also from good places to LARP in. So they can't be choosy with people or places.

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>>50784454
>Larping is lame
Here, FTFY

There are more competing similar interests SCA probally being the biggest.

>>50790415
Oh look, it's the another "I am shit, so let's blame others for being elitists!" episode of Amerifat TV!

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>>50786281
>The standard shouldn't be based on quality

>>50784454
For the same reason why Japanese doing a "catholic wedding" is lame and just plain weird.

A bunch of people desperately trying to copy something absolutely alien to their culture just because it looks cool is bout to fail. Just compare reenactment movements in Europe with RenFairs in States.

>>50790624
Whats ironic, is that Murray is a fa/tg/uy, and actually has discussed LARPing in interviews as a cool thing that he wishes was around when he was younger.

Also: You're a faggot.

>>50790588
your argument falls apart the moment when you want to use Hungary as an example for a place that has better options than the US.
Hungary has roughly the same population as New York city. Where are the good New York larps?
Or just look at the states separately.
Or should I get you examples of larps which are done in areas where population density is lower than in the US?
Or I could mention the larps where people travel to sometimes days just to play there, but I would admit those are usually the big ones and the exceptions.

>>50790700
>That's ironic
Nice you've notice the point of using Murray.

Also: LARPing is still lame af. Want to play knights? Join reenactment movement, like this >>50790685 anon suggested.
Not a thing in your country? Well then, your problem.

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>>50790704
Oh look, it's the hungarian LARPfag making this thread worse!

>>50790733
I help where I can

>>50790704
New Yorkers aren't near anywhere good to larp, so they just play Vampire in small groups or get into something else. You can get from the middle of Budapest to a huge empty park to larp in in a negligible amount of time, and that park is within reach of not only other cities but other countries. America has very dense places, but all of Europe is dense.

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>>50790733
I can totally understand hating me, but since when did anyone hate Hungarian?

When did /tg/ get shit(tier than before)

>>50790776
Was going to ask where is the clown dude, but he was faster...
Oh well, abandon thread

>>50790759
>to a huge empty park
Why would you larp in a park? That's objectively a shit place for larpin.
It's kind of okayish for a boffer tag but not for a big one.

Also it's usually one or more hours of travel to our usual larping places that's considered good enough and even those are lacking in al ot of things. Sometimes it's several hours of travel

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>>50790790
I've been here bro. >>50790328

>>50790820
Whatever you eurofags call a wilderness preserve that people are still allowed to fuck around in.

>>50784454
>Why is American Larping so lame?
American?

Larp is lame by fucking default. How beta one could be to deny such obvious truth?

>>50790776
>When did /tg/ get shit(tier than before)

/tg/'s been really touchy about "elitists" as of late, so anyone who strives for a higher quality in their /tg/-related hobby gets shat on now. It started with a kickback to OSR design philosophies to favor all-inclusive apocalypse world knockoff designs, but now everything that's potentially prohibitive to casuals is elitist.

Guess that means LARPing too. Kinda disgusting.

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>>50790886
There is a reason we moved the larpthread to another board.

>>50790846
okay, confirmation please: So by parks you mean the wilderness preserves which are usually specail areas where people aren't allowed to fuck up nature and shit like that?
Because while those do exists camping there is very restricted, sometimes outright banned, and no games could officially held there. Sometimes there are exceptions and sometimes people just doesn't give a shit about rules/laws but still...

So we usually just go to plain forests that aren't under those kind of restrictions, but those have different difficulties...

>>50790848
lol wrong neighborhood fucko, this is the beta board

>>50790886
that's when you have to stop caring about what the retards want

>>50790926
you maybe, I still consider /tg/ as my main board and post here and start threads regularly

>>50790886
You can provide quality without signing all your posts, anon.
It's called "4chan", not "reddit". And anonymity is the entire fucking point of this site.

>>50790956
Anon, you can be beta and you are still better than average larper. Literally only outright furfags (not just average furries) are worse.

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>>50790957
>till consider /tg/ as my main board and post here and start threads regularly

Same, I tried /his/, but holy fuck. Its like a more retarded /pol/, that asks the same five questions over and over.

>>50790956
But this is /tg/, not /r9k/

>>50791017
You should rather try not using tripcode. Or just migrate to reddit.
And it's not about "le evil leftist triggered reddit" memery. It's about this is 4chan. ANONYMOUS internet imageboard. The sole concept of tripcodes was wrong, and the amount of derailed thread by just you showing up is fucking annoying. No personal attatchment, just seen this shit too many times to pretend it doesn't happen.

>>50791017
>going to /his/
well... you ran into the dick forest with an open mouth there.

>>50791046
No, this is about you being one triggered little bitch.

Funny you claim someone should go to reddit when you're acting just like them.

>>50791109

Thanks for dropping your tripcode.

>>50791046
while I generally agree, there is a reason why names aren't banned and put in the system.

And while I don't know why Gropey started the tripfagging, I started the namefagging in larpthreads because we needed to make a distinction. There were too many different anons talking about their larps and all the larps can be fundamentally different in different countries. So we started namefagging with our country names that way we didn't had to explain n+1 times in the larp threads what background we came from when we talk about our experiences.
There were way more namefagging a few years ago but the other ones either dissappeared or doesn't have time to post or simply just stopped larping.

I stick with it but only use it in only larp related threads and arms and armour ones.

Not saying it's a good habit but that's the reason behind it.

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>>50791046
I post 99% of my time here anon, unless my background and knowledge are related to the thread, as I have done so for many years.

LARP threads especially, being a thread that naturally facilitates IRL interpersonal interaction, with many of us keeping regular contact and even playing together, as well as our production of content based on personal representation (IE: posting pics of ourselves at events, or of projects, kit etc).

So, how about no?

>>50791047
Damn straight

>>50790968

gropey has been a long standing exception to that on /tg/

your newfag is showing

>>50791177
Stop sperging first, then maybe he will.

>>50791046
Love him or hate him, Gropey is knowledgeable and produces content. Not all trips are shit.

>>50791109
>>50791177
>>50791275
>When you leave the thread for a while, but the shitlifting goes on autopilot anyway

>>50791223
I'm here for almost 5 years. And I always considered his presence a disgrace.
And always been vocal about it.
See my tripcode?

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>>50784454
>mfw when Americans look at Pics from Nordcon or Drachenfest and they think those two are examples of good LARPs in Europe

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If you are all going to bitch about this, could you at least post some on topic pics?

>>50791465
Nobody gives a fuck about your stupid dress-up hobby. LARPing should be banned along with quests from /tg/
Talk games or get the fuck out.

>>50791465
So do ya'll have actual tournaments or anything? Beat each other over the head with blunted weapons?

>>50784454
Cool story, bro.

Not sure what's worse.
Magic realm threads where ultra-beta fags can sperg about perfect waifu or LARP threads, where ultra-beta fags can pretend they are their OCs IRL

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>>50791557
Shhhh. Its ok. No tears now, only larping.

>>50791591
I do, but not everyone. I larp, reenact a couple of time periods, do SCA (Medieval recreation, baton combat, steel fencing), study WMA/HEMA, and compete in ACL/IMCF.

>>50790733
>WAAAAAH! A NAMEFAG WHO LARPS IS POSTING IN A LARP THREAD!
Do us all a favor and LARP on some train tracks. Pretend you're Superman trying to prevent a train from running Lois Lane over or something.

>>50790776
It's probably more because he can't stand the idea of people using names on an anonymous image board. Makes his fragile little butt hurt.

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>>50791557

>>50790718
>Join reenactment movement
You realize that's just LARPing by another name, right?

>>50791687
Hungarian, why are you so Hungarian? Dropping the name to defend yourself... that's fucking low.
Don't you have borders to defend?

>>50785201
>Shooting someone in the head, unzipping your pants, and slapping their corpse with their balls

Fun in a tabletop, weird and awkward in a LARP.

>>50791738
>reenactment movement
>LARPing
I'm assuming right now that you are American. Canadian alternatively..

Cause there is no fucking way anyone, from any fucking place in Europe, in or out EU, rich and poor, to confuse those two.

>>50791046
>The sole concept of tripcodes was wrong
The fact that you're saying this means you don't understand their purpose.

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>>50791751

>>50791741
>there can only be one person who disagrees with me at any given time

>>50791773
Not him, but
>Be anonymous board
>Provide means to sign your posts
>Provide means to sign your posts with account-like signature
Either full anonymous, or everyone registers. Because as it is, it's just shit. Especially given how bad all tripfags are and you can precisely point out their autism, because, well, tripfags

>>50791807
There is only one Hungarian faggot who is the epitome of stereotypical lower middle class Hungarian and signs his posts as fucking "hungarian larpfag", so go fucking figure.

>>50791741
Go back to Tumblr, you entitled child. Nobody likes to see a grown person throwing a temper tantrum like a goddamn four year old.

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>>50791738
Ah, but reenacting/recreation can turn into a career. I basically larp as an 18thC American soldier, professionally. Before that I did early 17thC English (pic related).

>>50791813
So block us. That is a feature. Use it if you really get sand in your ass about it.

>LARP thread
>Turns into angry argument about namefags and tripfags

Guess that's the best proof why they are bad.

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>>50791843
>Grow up!
>Posts it on /tg/

>>50791845
Closing eyes won't make you disappear, you know?

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>>50791865
Well, then feel free to enjoy my posts, as im not going anywhere. Just for you, Anon <3

>>50791865
>Grow up!
>Posts it on /tg/
Hello, Mister Pot? Mister Kettle called, and he says you're black.

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And we've got a thread about why it's evil to even consider muslims as human beings going simultaniously on this very board, so I hope you feel proud about your achievement.

>>50791889
One day you will die.
And nobody will care.

>>50791865
>I don't like thing!
"So do [thing] to hide it"
>NO! THING SHOULD GO AWAY! I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING!

>>50791932
We got rid of quests, you know? Because people were sick and tired with having to filter through that crap and it was still eating space on the board anyway.

>>50790415
And this attitude right here is why US LARP tends to suck.

>>50791976
Ah yes, because LARPing threads take up so much space on the board

>>50791932
>If I will cover my head with a pillow, I will stop seeing bad things
You should also loudly sing something akin to "LA LA LA LA, I can't hear you", you fucking manchild

>>50791976
There aren't 50 slightly different flavors of LARP thread on /tg/, not even the same thing. Why don't you go make a website where people are only allowed to talk about the things you like instead?

>>50791997
Nobody said anything about LARPing.

The subject in question was existence of trip- and namefaggotry.

>>50791907
That's rich, mate. Totally shows the other side!

>>50792029
And, again, you can filter that shit, you fuckwit. Instead of hiding it and moving on with your fucking life, you're crying about how it'll still be there even if you can't see it.

>>50792010
>/TG/
>Allowing LARP
Why don't LARPfags just pack their foam swords and start their own board?

So is Europe LARP comparable to Reenacters here in the states? I know here in the Deep South we take Civil War shit serious.

Any good LARP in Canada, specifically Ontario?

Only place I know near me is shit and uses foil balls and foam swords.

>>50792071
>/tg/
>Allowing subjects I don't like
Why don't they just pack up all the things I don't like and make their own board?

boffer tag >>>>>>> larping

LARP is just an additional layer of money waste on top of the game aspect, sometimes not even containing a game part and being just a cosplay event.

>>50792098
Not him, and it has nothing to do with liking or not.
LARP has nothing to do with neither traditional games not tabletop games.
So kindly, fuck off

>>50792078

Depends on which one. Like Hungarian said - its a mixed bag.

Much better than US larp on average, but still a mixed bag.

>>50792098
To be fair, we do have outdoors, alternative sports and cosplay boards, which have more to do with LARP than /tg/

>>50792078
Nope, in Europe you can get laughed at at best if you are LARPfag showing on reenactment show, politely asked to leave or end up punched in the face if you insist and the reenactors already drink a bit.

>>50792078
reenactment and larping are different. They have a lot of shared stuff, but while one is a game, the other one is (officially) to recreate parts of history and educate others on it.

>>50792153

False.

Here for example a good number of reenactors come to larp and a good number of larpers started doing reenactment as well.

>>50792078
Not at all.
Reenactment is a "serious" stuff, all about research, historical facts and recreation of past.
LARP is just LARP.

And a lot of folks doing reenactment will give you a stare if you will call them LARPers

>>50792125
rollplaying > roleplaying

roleplaying is just an additional layer of waste on top of the game aspect, sometimes not even containing a game part and being just a weird acting event.

>>50792179
Try that in former Soviet republics then. You live close enough, shouldn't be that hard for you to travel to Ukraine.

>>50792195
A more apt comparison would have been board games, dummy.

>>50792195
>Pretending LARP has anything to do with games
Nice non-argument, but you tried at least

>>50790989

Do you have a problem with improv acting?

Do you have a problem with Traditional games?

Do you have a problem combining them so you can engage in interpersonal frivolity and story making?

>>50792195
Name me a single LARPing event that is anything else than just fiat and shit made up on the spot.

Not sure what's worse, really. Fa/tg/uys who sit on their asses in mom's basement or fa/tg/uys who went so deep they are pretending to be their OCs.

>>50792231
I can do that at the table, roleplaying and improvising all the way I want, without meeting with bunch of people who on regular basis have hard time distinguish anymore reality from their delusions.

There is a reason nobody likes LARPers, even among role-players.

>>50791976
>We got rid of quests, you know? Because people were sick and tired with having to filter through that crap and it was still eating space on the board anyway.

Actually the stated reason by the mods for /qst/ is that the antiquestfags were ban-dodging and shitposting to the point where it was just easier to cave in and give them what they wanted rather than try to continue deleting and banning them.

>>50792254
do you have a reason to be here other than the wealth of (you's) you so obviously covet?

I don't know what's more pathetic, People getting together and mutually enjoying a thing together, Or anti-social bait trolls who's only interaction with others are through a screen... wait no, I know exactly which one is worse.

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>>50792277
And in the end quests were removed, so?

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>>50792277
Can I get some evidence on that?

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>>50792289
Answer the question, rather than dodging it with cheap eristics.

>>50792290
>If we bitch long and loud enough we get what we want.

Truly the tumblr age.

So much salt around here. Must be all the cheetos.

Anyway, Hungarian - we got some fun stuff planned for 2017. Balkan fest is coming along nicely.

>>50792289
I actually do.

Making it clear to all the larp faggots that they are not welcomed around. Their hobby is not a /tg/ material. There are numerous boards where they fit better. Instead they come on /tg/, in their stupid assumption they have anything in common with traditional games.

Get out.

>>50792211
Then you just wait for May 9th and call it remembering the great patriotic war.

>>50792307
If it works, why are you so salty about it?

What? Problems with people getting what they want, while nobody cares about your own bitching? Need a cozy blanket and a hot chocolate to feel any less neglected?

>>50792340
And that has what to do with LARP, you sperg? That's a classic reenactment event, you mouth-breathing moron.
Wearing a costume =/= LARP

>>50792309
questionable if I will have the money to get there. Right now the main priority is to go down to darchenfest finally with a big group.
But I will keep in mind

>>50785246

Its true i always ban the pikies from joining my games

>>50792325

No.

>>50792309
>>50792360
If you are going to talk your private business, do it privately.
This is not an internet communicator.

>>50792356
thatsthejoke.jpeg

>>50792370
So you are basically sitting on a board that literally has nothing to do with your hobby just to spite people?

May, and then LARPfags wonder why /tg/ hates them

>>50792360

Call it poor man's Drachenfest then and form a 2nd expedition from those that can't go to Drachen. :D

>>50792325
hey, whatever floats your boat.
I mean, it's not like it will make me stop doing anything, but if that makes you happy go for it!

>>50792382
Why don't you just use your mod powers to delete those posts?

>>50790846
A forest?

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>>50792370

>>50791427
Well they are good foam waving games, and it sure as fuck beats MET.

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>Americans are bad
>LARP
>Tripfags
>Namefags

>>50791834
Actually we had three at a time, "Hungarian", "Another Hungarian" and "That Other Hungarian"

>>50792071
If you get CYOA'ers to go first, maybe.

>>50792325
>>50792254

Ah, So there is literally no argument, Just your opinion. Okay, The way to beat you is to just ignore you as we talk about LARPS, But we all know that no one on Chan can resist a juice piece of bait, Point in case you're going to reply to me one way or another with something that has no functional use other than to insult a human you will never know, see or knowingly interact with again to prove that "You mean Business" About being mean to LARPers.

And if you folks don't, Then whoopy doo, My point still stands and that obviously means you're Wrong. See where I'm getting? None of this will get you any where if the Larpers just ignore you. You'll just be wasting your own life trying to tell people their hobby doesn't belong next to your hobby. Truly, We are all wonderful examples of good ol' classic 4chan. bravo

>>50792477
CYOAs are under protection of one of the janitors. Until he's still a janitor, they are untouchable. And since /tg/ is starved for manpower when it comes to cleaning duties...

>>50792494
Only one of those posts is mine.

And I'm still waiting for non-fiat based LARPing events. Somehow nobody is able to provide even a single one over all those posts.

>>50791976
If you want tripcodes and names removed from 4chan, the correct place two whine is /qa/, not /tg/.

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>>50784454
The biggest thing working against LARP in North America is social stigma.

In North America, just in general, sexual content is usually considered more taboo than it is in Europe. This is partially due to lingering christian values, but moreso to commercialize sex. By making it risque, big businesses can increase demand, and sell sex at a higher value. As such, sex has become a huge part of American culture. In almost all media being blasted at North Americans from every corner, sex is the "cool"/"badass"/"glorious"/"beautiful" thing to do, the ultimate pleasure in life. Once you've done it, you've "made it", if you haven't, you're inherently just that little bit more pathetic than everyone else, no matter what else you may do / have done, and there may even be something wrong with you, mentally or physically. And then people wonder why guys are so concerned with penis size / stamina, lol.

Anyways, this means that if something you are interested in has a shameful reputation in the popular social opinion, then openly enjoying it could bar you from having sex (at least, with anyone personally desirable). With that mentioned, the social stigma of both enjoying an unsexy thing and having no sex is some heavy shit that can be hard to shrug off or overcome. Some physically work out and build external muscle to try to carry the social burden and hide the internal, emotional one, others seek intellectual pursuits in an effort to lighten the load. Point being:

LARP has a reputation of being super nerdy, but "bad" nerdy. In North America, there are "nerdy" things that are socially acceptable and promoted, like office "fantasy" sports, some basic AAA video games, and only very recently in some circles: Dungeons and Dragons (not just "tabletop RPGs", but "DnD" like how all foam sword things are called "larp"), "good" nerdy.

cont...

>>50792516
>And I'm still waiting for non-fiat based LARPing events
alright, I bite. What's your definition for non-fiat based larp?

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>>50792434
You do not know the horror that are Gravity Elves.

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>>50792563
>cont...

Then there are nerdy things that are considered too out-of-touch with the status quo, often from old reputations of yesteryear that were misconceptions to begin with. Video games like Dwarf Fortress or Mechwarrior, any MMORPG that isn't WoW, any tabletop anything that isn't real food or storage, and certainly anything involving costumes and running around swinging things that isn't live/recorded theatre or a popular sport, are all considered "bad" nerdy. These hobbies carry a social stigma that will make the kind of people that we call "normies", the vast majority of the population, find the supporters of these hobbies unacceptable, and may consider them social rejects. This is why I don't dress in public the way I really want to (pic related).

Considering all of this now, we can see why so few promote or create any LARP groups, and why none get taken seriously if they try to. No one bothers making any distinctions between Live-action ROLE PLAYING and foam sword tag, because the hobbies need all the support they can put together by falling under one label, and by trying to define them it would only entrench you in your social rut by showing your in-depth knowledge and involvement in the subject. In fact, the RP part of North American LARP is particularly pathetic due to those aspects being considered even more socially detestable than the weapon-play.

cont...

>>50792583
Is it worse than "greetings I am Lucifel the Harrowed"
>Rock/Scissor/Paper me for a seduction roll

>>50792578
>non-fiat based larp
That'd make it a scripted theatre event.

>>50792578
>definition for non-fiat based larp?
Being non-fiat based?
As in - actually having rules, probability chances, sheets, GMs and all the stuff that definies games

And nice knowing there is any other definition of non-fiat based, so you have to use term "your", you fucking namefag

>>50792632
so, chamber larps?

>>50784454
Geography.

The USA is huge. Europe is not. Europe has everyone crowded into as small an area as possible, and you can find more people doing what you do closer to you, so communities can appear.

It takes as long to drive across some European countries as it takes to drive from one end of Los Angeles to the other. Community can suck it.

>>50792563
>Implying this stigma is just related with burgers
>Implying rest of the world doesn't treat LARPers like fucking loonies
>Implying they aren't right
You'r cute

>>50792642
>As in - actually having rules, probability chances, sheets, GMs and all the stuff that definies games
So _every_ game has those?

But then I would say MET vampire larps fits your definition

>>50792632
>>50792646
I'm not that guy, so fuck off. But I appriciate the stupid setup

>>50792650
>Being this tier retarded
Let me guess - you are not from States and only know them from memes

>>50792665
>Every
You've misspelled "none"

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>>50792616
>cont...

When thinking of how pathetic the RP-heavy parts of the hobby are in North America (youtube videos abound), this is due to the fact that as we have just mentioned, only the few social outcasts will really invest in it. Nobody else will take the time, money, and creativity to make a convincing outfit/weapon, or train and practice their swordplay, or practice their acting / getting into character, or invest in a space to fully partake in the hobby, otherwise they will severely lower their social status.

Even then, most people who dare getting into it are forced to join the only popular group nearby who tend to have unsually typically dictator-like owners and rulemakers. And even when RP-leaning game types are formed, there is usually a combat-heavy focus to try and promote the hobby as something closer to a sport and make it more socially acceptable, and warranting of public support.

>>50792697
Anon, stop. Nobody gives a fuck about you, your stupid hobby or why you feel bad about people considering your behaviour abnormal and insane
I was sure this thread can't go any lower, but then you and your crying bitchfit showed up

>>50792665

My lawyer suggests not sharing the probability chance to shoot someone in the balls with a foam arrow in a way that makes it look like an accident.

>>50792307
Anon that is literally how human history works.

>>50792697
feel free to continue, I'm interested

>>50792695
>Let me guess - you are not from States and only know them from memes
I'm from Los Angeles, and have lived in Europe and the USA. And I'm right.

>>50792642
>GMs
All games have those

>Rules
We have those, some games have hundreds of pages so even the fattest and most incompetent players can win a duel and even the most trivial action can devolve into hours of arguing

>sheets
Some game have those, others focus on roleplying over rollplaying

>probability chances
most games skip that, as rolling a dice to wipe your ass gets tiring in a 3 day event

>>50792709
That's the thing, I'm not even a LARPer in any context. I find it interesting, but I've never even tried it, only looked into it. I'm not trying to rant or bitch, I'm just stating facts. This is what I've seen.

>>50792697

Oh you better believe the part about dictator like owners/rulemakers. I've faced this personally. Forget about dissent, even questioning can be met with deadly force.

>>50784454
American accents. That is all.

Since this is the dedicated LARP salt mine thread rather than the actual LARP thread I wanna throw this in here:
What's with reenactors and their massive chip on their shoulder? They're generally even bigger nerds than LARPers. ( if we don't take the American power-fantasy faggots into the equasion ) But just because they use iron they think they're tough shit or something? What's up with that.

>>50792824

They take themselves 100% seriously rather than view reenactment as a hobby.

>>50792824
I don't know about other countries but in hungary it's mostly that reenactors are usually the manly men who are doing manly things. So anything that considered lessen their manliness or ego is a serious threat and they answer it by the only way they now, which is force and anger.
That's true for roughly half of the reenactors here. The other half simply don't care or also into other nerdy stuff or even larps, but usually they aren't vocal about it while the ones who hate larpers are REALLY vocal about this.

>>50792805
As a Canadian who speaks with General American dialect, this is true. It just sounds so fucking blunt compared to other languages/accents. I liked it better 200-300 years ago when it sounded more articulate and still used the british soft 'r' in some cases.

>>50792922
Yeah, nah, I get the 'manly men' meme, but do they know they're kinda not?
I mean, fuck, most of the time (and that's the occasional Eastern European guy who's seen as tough shit here) they're skinnyfat dudes with a whacky haircut.

I mean, LARPers in general are even less in shape I'll give you that. But reenactors IRL are just as big wimps as any general guy.

>>50792744
>And I think I'm right
FTFY

>>50792984
>Yeah, nah, I get the 'manly men' meme, but do they know they're kinda not?
All the more reason to beat up some nerds.

>>50792984
>But reenactors IRL are just as big wimps as any general guy.
Depends on what exactly they are reenacting, really. Not saying they are not wimps like everyone else, but on average, it's easier to find /fit/ reenactor than /fit/ larper

>>50792984
I'm not saying that they are right. But that's their mindset. I had more than a few arguments with them here.

>>50792752
>probability
In the few systems that use random numbers, they just the miliseconds on a stopwatch as a D100 instead of actually carrying dice around.

>>50792984
This anon gets it.

Most of reenactors are just as wimpy as you expect from a dudes dressing up for a hobby. My absolute favourite are all the legionnaire reenactors, who usually barely get inside their armour and get all sweaty after marching for 200 meters in a column.

>50792995
Not gonna get my (you) :^))))

>>50793013
Yeah, agreeing with you here. There's atleast double the fit reenactors than that there's fit LARPers.
But that don't say a lot. I think me and about 5 guys of the 300 at my last event lifted. Lots of martial artist guys, but you never know how much that's worth.

>>50793018
Yeah I feel ya, I just don't get why people really feel the need to tell other nerds they're better. If we left the stupid hobby out of it I bet they'd be nice people too.

>>50792752
>Some
>All
>Certain
Any particular event by a name, you faggot?

>>50792824
I'm a reenactor and I LARP. I lot of my reenactor friends love LARP partly due to all having ready to go historical costumes, and others love it because they can cut loose and not have worry about exacting historical standards when making a costume for a change.

Some reenactors really do think they are manly men doing manly things. This is most true of "Viking" types, who are norsemen reborn and the club is some warrior brotherhood or some rubbish.

The other reason is that LARP and reenactment does look rather similar, what with the dressing up and hitting people. And since LARP is a silly thing that all sensible people are ashamed of then it follows that reenactors strenously deny that their hobby is anything like that LARP nonsense.

>>50793050
>He thinks legions are funny
Try Thirty Years' War, man. It's literally worse than the stereotypical LARP, with absolutely NOBODY being in any shape, because the period doesn't exactly require being fit in the first place nor carrying that much.

>>50791813
>Because as it is, it's just shit
You've only just noticed?

>>50793073

Free for all like your mum.

>>50793050


Roman reenactors are quite the meme indeed. One local group is only good for parades - they don't know or even try to fight. Fancy stuff like formations? Hilarious.

>>50784454
There's a huge stigma attached to LARPing in the US.

Even guys that play 40k and DnD look down their nose at larpers for being too nerdy.

Those who would LARP get pulled into other stuff like SCA or Civil War re-enactments.

>>50793103
Hold up.... Reenactors in general are public about their hobby?

I mean I know there's a lot of LARPers who are too, but if you want to be one of the 'cool' people you really don't. (Yeah, this only counts under the age of 25.)

>>50792824
>But just because they use iron they think they're tough shit or something
Pretty much this. A bunch of insufferable faggots who have serious self-esteem issues about dressing up and then people confusing them with other dressed-up faggots (general public usually doesn't even care to notice the difference between larp and reenactment), so they throw a bitchfit every given chance how they are "for real".
Bonus points if they are doing any part of medieval, as that's just the worst thing that can happen, ego-wise

People who LARP are dissatisfied with their real lives so they invent characters and settings in which they are heroes and their actions matter.

My real life is exciting enough thank you very much.

>>50792824
Knowing about esoteric fictional realms is pointless. Knowing about esoteric history is slightly less pointless. Slightly.

Playing a role is lame. Being yourself, dressed in funny clothes and playing with swords, isn't as lame.

I'm reminded of a chart showing different nerd groups, each group thinking they're less nerdy than the group below, sort of like a hierarchy of nerddom. It had furries as the uber nerd, I think.

>>50793137
>My real life is exciting enough thank you very much.
Then take it to your blog.

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>>50793130
>There's a huge stigma attached to LARPing in the US.
>Implying there isn't one elsewhere

>>50793132
In most European countries, to do reenactment, you must register an organisation for that, due to safety concern and visiting historical sites. So you not only are public about it, but actually tracable by offical documents.

>>50793177
I meant as in; when talking to people about it. F.e. when you first meet somebody you say it's a defining hobby of yours.

In my circles you'd be considered a turbo nerd for doing so.

>>50793137
Are you sure you're on the right board? This is the playing pretend board where we kill dragons and command armies on the battlefield.

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I quit going to all the larps around my area, too much bullshit involved in them.

>Working out at the larp I've gone to for two years
>Only me and two other people doing some minor carpentry to set up buildings
>Brought my generator and several power tools
>Hear growling and see a dog on the edge of "town"
>We had a lot of our stuff chewed up recently, including weapons and costume parts
>Dog keeps approaching, hackles raised and growling
>Can't seem to chase it off by shouting
>It's like 5 foot away
>Crack it with a nearby 2x4 and it runs away yelping
>Two hours later I end up having to talk to police officers for attacking someone's dog
>The two guys with me backed up my story, we showed our destroyed property, and I ended up being fine since the dog was off the owner's property
>People who run the larp don't like it
>Tell me "You signed a waiver, you don't have the right to hurt someone's pet."


>Go to other larp in a nearby city park, it's a lot less involved and a lot less decent
>"Weaponsmaster" checks my weapons and approves them
>Playing basically a game of team deathmatch
>Still enjoying myself
>Suddenly a kid dressed as Cloud Strife holding a large sword swings at me
>Block with my shield and my shield snaps in half
>Moderator warns the kid not to swing so hard and he runs away
>Go and set my shield on the sidelines, but get distracted by an old friend standing on a pavilion
>Talking to friend and showing him the shield when suddenly I'm on the concrete
>Apparently Cloud came up behind me and hit me in the head, knocking me clear off my feet and then ran away again
>End up getting the moderators involved who examine his weapon
>Fucker had filled it with sand
>Literally a 1.5 inch pvc pipe filled with sand and two pillows duct taped to it and then wrapped in duct tape.
>Weaponsmaster says that it's not against the rules because the core is still pvc
>MFW I'm reminded that I signed another waiver

>>50793160
I think that's the main real difference between them - one is pretending to be someone who you aren't, the other is just being you, all dressed-up. And no wonder people have a slightly better reaction toward reenactment, especially since it's considered usually as historical event.

Remember that chart. Furfags and larpfags were fucking rock-bottom, followed by reenactfags.

>>50793132
Some reenactors actually do a public service, teaching people about history.

Other reenactors are just overweight Medieval/Viking fetishists.

>>50793199
And the exact same applies all over the world, anon. LARP isn't accepted, and this anon >>50793160 is right in every single word

Re-enactment is pretend dress up for adults with too much time and money on their hands.

>>50793205
>Play a game with fictional characters
>Pretend to be fictional character
If you don't see a difference, you are probably a larper
Also
>All TTRPG are high heroic fantasy

>>50793214
>Some reenactors actually do a public service, teaching people about history.

That's the other thing, direct contact with the public at open days, shows and talks where the theory is at least that this is a semi-serious excercise in education/historical entertainment. So you can imagine that at these events you want to be seen as serious and somewhat respectable which LARP is not, and thus draw a distinction between the two for the public.

>>50793241
>with too much money on their hands
I guess you never met re-enactors then
And it's not that they are poor due to their hobby. They are into the hobby, because they are poor and need an escape from reality

Also, fuckload of old people who are lonely and looking for companion.

>>50793073
Rules are ALL games, as in every single LARP has rules.
It ranges from simple safety and code of conduct up to micromanagement of conversational skills.

NERO is a shitfest with worldmaps, how to play for monsters, a hundred anf fourty pages in their "basic" rules, magic rule, a changleog, a fa, an derratera, a competetice use guide
AMTGARD has a 75 page pdf
Bicoline has very light rules of in-game has their own sports with rules, that's meta for you.

NERO also uses sheets, and as such runs on a "more game played means you win by default" system.
AMTGARD uses sheets, classes and advancement.
Rigers veje, also uses sheets.

>>50793137
Welcome to /tg/, we like to play pretend and roll dice to simulate a actual effort.

>>50793132
Friends of mine are in a knightly brotherhood. That means they are a registered, formal organisation (yes, there are papers for such things). To qualify for the organisation, they are running local castle's museum as qualified and certified tour guides and doing at least 10 hours a month of "education events", which means showing up in some school, costumed, and doing a moderated and consulted with the history teacher class for kids.

>>50793244
>>All TTRPG are high heroic fantasy
No, some are also about muslebound ubermenchen who shoot spaceguns at space elves.

>>50793325
That is one really sweet get-up they got then.

>>50793352
Don't forget it's all just smoke and mirrors to get hammered each weekend while wearing 14th century costume.

>>50793411
... He says as if LARP is very different.

>>50793352
It's not that uncommon, especially for small groups that make connections with their local area. And castles and other sites of historical interest keep friendly relations with groups who can put on gigs a few times a year for them.

One friend's job these days is doing school activity days in a variety of kits he has assembled through the years. I'd love to break into that racket since I've got tour guide experience but it's probably a few years before I'd be ready for it.

>>50793325

And they're complete loser nerds who are every bit as much of a societal failure as the fattest larper.

Be yourself. If you have to dress up as somebody you aren't and it isn't Halloween for ANY reason, then you're admitting to everyone who sees you that you're a shit person the world would be better off without.

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>>50793160
>>50793209

you are probably thinking about this chart, although I think there are updated versions of this

>>50793481
>Halloween
What are you? American?

And nice knowing a bunch of people with wifes (or husbands), kids and normal family lives and stable jobs are losers and failures, because they do what they find interesting way of not sitting flat on their ass in the weekend, but rather find a reason and excuse to meet together.
That's really, really rich.

>>50793481
>If you have to dress up as somebody you aren't and it isn't Halloween for ANY reason

Actors do exist, anon. Hell, I know teachers who deliberately send students to larp, because 48 consecutive hours of being "improvisationally in character" is actually really, really good training.

>>50793512
I'd put 13 year old gamers above LARPers.

>>50793550
Just don't respond man, it's all the same guy.

>>50793512
>Japanimation
Now that's a word I didn't see in a loooong while

>>50793512
That is exactly the chart I was thinking of.

>>50793571
Most 13 year olds put themselves above everything

>>50793571
They should be interchangable, since there is a LOT of teens in LARPing

>>50793578
Funny, because I am one of the guys responsible for jumping on the LARPers in this thread and you tell me to not respond, assuming he is me.
That's rich too.

>>50793550
>And nice knowing a bunch of people with wifes (or husbands), kids and normal family lives and stable jobs are losers and failures, because they do what they find interesting way of not sitting flat on their ass in the weekend, but rather find a reason and excuse to meet together.

Exactly. They're fucking losers. Losers meeting losers are still losers.

Larping is a pretty shit hobby. But if you feel compelled to do it for some reason, at least have the decency to play in a game where you can play in a Tshirt and jeans or something.

And for fuck's sake don't get all elitist about your pretty costumes. You aren't a better person for wasting a bunch of money on something that isn't going to help you win a game.

>>50793551
>Actors do exist, anon

You're not really disproving the concept of "anybody who dresses up is a fucking loser", anon.

>>50793604
>Confusing larpers with historical reenactors
I'm fucking speechless

You know, the other anon was right. No point answering you.

>>50792824
Depends on the reenactors. Civil War reenactors and any reencators from US history are serious fucking business.

>>50793604
>You're not really disproving the concept of "anybody who dresses up is a fucking loser", anon.
Wish I was being paid a million dollars a film to be a loser.

>>50793604
Besides, I think I was clear that friends of mine are in the brotherhood. I, on the other hand, I'm just their friend since we were 12. Meaning I don't even need to get a pass or a costume when they set up event, since I'm always the "special guest". Without any bullshit costume

The only one exception was when they were going to Visby for their medieval festival and I've helped them organise it all, knowing the city pretty well due to sailing. So I ended up convinced by everyone to rent the costume from the city's storage, but when entire fucking city was dressed up, why fucking not?

>>50793629
>Confusing larpers with historical reenactors
>I'm fucking speechless

The difference between larpers and reenactors is like the difference between italians and corsicans, british people and welshmen, or slavs and cossacks. Nobody else but them can tell, and nobody else gives a shit.

You dress up for a "role" that isn't you, your a loser. It's that simple.

>>50793208
Anon you should learn some HEMA or traditional martial arts. Next time a cunt attacks you with a deadly weapon, put him on the fucking ground.

>>50793512
>That last group

I swear they take anything published and populate it with gay werewolves.

A FUCKING ONE DIRECTION/SHERLOCK HOLMES CROSSOVER

>>50793132
You obviously haven't been to the Southern United States. Being a Confederate reenactor is a good way to start a conversation.

>>50793701
>italians and corsicans
Ok
>british people and welshmen
Um...
>slavs and cossacks
Yep, you are retarded

>You dress up for a "role" that isn't you, your a loser. It's that simple.
Then by your own definition reenactors aren't losers.

>>50793703
>put him on the fucking ground...
... ad get disqualified and banned from the organisation you were participating in, which if you are unlucky, might mean you are banned in entire country, because there was only one such league in it.

>>50793604

You must lead a really, really sad existence. Actually I am not sure you belong here. A person so lacking in imagination is very unlikely to be more than That Guy in any dnd group.

>>50793701
this. historical re-enactment is literally identical to larping and only the most pedantic autist would be able to find a difference. oh yeah 4chan.

>>50793836

Well thats what you get when you set the bar so low that its just a door stopper.

Then again checking out HEMA vids is a good idea on its own.

>>50793865
American?
Not a jab, serious question.

Because there is a fuck-huge difference in Europe between larping (game activity, usually not requiring any permits) and reenactment (state-sanctioned educational movement, with registered organisations, events and a lot of paperwork) due to completely different content, aim and way of handling things.

>>50793836
>... ad get disqualified and banned from the organisation you were participating in, which if you are unlucky, might mean you are banned in entire country, because there was only one such league in it.
>America
>Organizations
>Speaking at fucking all

Clearly the group he was involved in wasn't worth it, but the idea that he would then get blacklisted is fucking laughable.

>>50793929
>but the idea that he would then get blacklisted is fucking laughable.
Not sure how does HEMA works in States, but try pulling some shit if it's not any of the post-Soviet countries and you are banned from participation in the league you were in if you do something against the rules of said league.
On average, there is single league per country, meaning you are fucked for playing dirty or being an asshole.

>>50793836
The Larps I was attending weren't part of any league, it was mostly just a group of people who formed some rules, probably about 40-70 people there in normal attendance. At least before the rules bullshit killed off interest in the group.
>>50793703
Pretty sure it's not a good idea to do that to someone who might be underage. Not sure if he was, but he looked like late teens.
>>50793929
I mean, I was banned from the first one I talked about.

>>50793973
I'm not talking about HEMA, I'm talking about learning HEMA, and then applying those techniques to somebody like that cloud fuck hitting him with a "foam" sword filled with sand.

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>>50793987
>Stumpfag
Stump?

>>50793987
>Pretty sure it's not a good idea to do that to someone who might be underage. Not sure if he was, but he looked like late teens.
The little shit deserves it if he's doing something as dangerous as filling a big object with sand so it's solid and swinging it around. That's enough mass to where it could potentially break bone unless you've got SCA standards of protection. If the group doesn't do shit, somebody needs to step into teach the little shit a lesson. ESPECIALLY if he surprised cracked you over the head while you were fixing your shield.

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>>50793987
>Pretty sure it's not a good idea to do that to someone who might be underage. Not sure if he was, but he looked like late teens.
But anon, not smacking a kid is such reasonable and adult thing to do. Are you forgetting where you are? This is the ultimate manchild board

>>50793987
See? >>50794039
Before I've even managed to post my quip

>>50793987

Always wise to play it safe.

I don't think we ever had anyone banned over here for the 6 years since I started. Then again we keep the entry to actual games behind training sessions and examination by arbiters of both equipment and personal ability. We also hammer a lecture or two on responsibility and legal troubles if shit hits the fan. So far it has not.

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>>50794039

>>50794065
It's not the reasonable and adult thing to do. Back in the day, seventy or so years ago or more, if somebody else's kid was being a little shit and their parents weren't teaching them what for, it was YOUR job to smack some sense into them if they had just fucked your over somehow.

Frankly, that idea should have never died out and is better than modern "parenting"
>oh muh poor baby didndu nuffin how dare you harm a hair on his skin

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>LARP thread
>Barely moving forward
>Cue shitstorm
>200 replies in 3 hours
/tg/, why are you so /tg/

>>50794133
the US guys woke up. It happens every know and then with larp threads.

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>>50794131
So edgy I almost cut myself

>>50794133
Well I mean, since LARPing is pretty different (plot-wise,etc. etc.), and the costume stuff is on the actual big-boy thread on /cgl/. All we got here is room for stories and dick-measuring.

And it's larp. I LARP myself, Euro-fag, but you can't win at LARP. You're doing LARP, you've already lost.

>>50794144
Now that you bring it, that explains all the shit in this thread and man-children getting ass blasted about anyone calling LARP lame.

>>50794146
Who is this cute?

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>>50794015
A long time ago in a larpthread I made a post about how the first larp had been established on someone's land, in a cedar thicket. I spent my weekends out there with a pickaxe, shovel, and a chainsaw clearing out sections of it for trails, towns, and other things.

Which was all fine and dandy, I enjoyed making the area safe for people and building the buildings in the town. They even gave my character bonus experience. (At least until the town was mostly finished and they reset everyone's levels.)

>>50794131
See pic related.

>>50794146
How is it edgy? That used to be how kids was raised, and it was good and produced good adults. The belt shouldn't be banned.

>>50794186
There's a difference between disciplining a child and beating the everloving fuck out of some emo-shit teen and then going to jail.

>>50794168
probably there is a deeper lesson here

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>>50794186

>>50794186
That's right. If your parents beat your ass, you wouldn't be such a whiny, judgemental and collosal faggot, but rather a productive member of society.
I mean look at yourself. You are actually using a Vietnamese anonymous imageboard! What the fuck?! That's like 10 lashes and another 5 for being such a limp dick faggot

>>50794177
I have no fucking clue, saved it from /v/ in mid-September

>>50790415

ITT: Spastic Amerifats

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>>50794133
>>50794144
I am dissapointed with whats become of /tg/. It used to be that larpthreads were a rare, but beloved tradition.

Where has all of this endless salt come from? Who's really retarded enough to claim its not /tg/?


I was honestly thinking about doing another give-away contest too.

>>50794321
The same way how Baltic gets all the salt... you know the fairy tale?

>>50794321
Don't act like it didn't happened in ye olden times either.

>>50794281
Funny thing is that you're probably right. Ending belting for kids both in school and as a culture was a terrible idea, and probably why something like the Greatest Generation hasn't cropped up again.

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>>50794345
I don't, actually. Do tell?

>>50794364
I'm going through the archives and it has never been this bad.

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>>50794321
Oi! I LARP with the guy in that costume, he's a great fella. Makes webcomics too, and even cool IC nazi pamflets for our fantasy nazi group to hand out in the village. It's a sweet deal.

>>50794428
>tfw you spend a minute staring and waiting for the movement.

>>50794428
because the archives doesn't go back far enough, it was before the fuuka archivation.
That, or you just doesn't do your research right

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>>50794428
Well, depending on the version of the story, it's either about a sack or a grinder, producing endless supply of salt. Let's stick with the grinder.
So there was this guy, a salt trader, living on the outskirts of the town and always helpful to everyone, being rich and shit. One day a poor boy visited his home and asked for aid for his ill mother. The guy, went out, while leaving the boy in his home to get him warm and fed. The boy started looking around the house and found the grinder. Realising how much he could earn by selling the grinder or keeping it for himself, he run away with it, leaving his ill mother behind, trying to escape as far away as possible.
This angered sea spirits/merfolk/God Almighty (depends on version), so they've caused a massive storm to scare the boy and get him back, as he sailed on sea. The boy panicked and started his return trip, but in the process the grinder fell into the sea.
Where it lies to this day, slowly turning the handle around with the sea current.

The end.

>>50794499
Don't kid yourself Slav, its worse. I went back 3 years.

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>>50794539
>Hungarian
>Slav

>>50794539
A few days ago in the last larp thread it was pretty much enjoyable. This thread won't destroy my enjoyment, also it's always interesting to see other people's viewpoint, even if they are mentally challanged.

>>50794574
don't bother. That fat fuck will never learn the difference

>>50794539
Back on topic.

So what's in the To do list for next year? Gear? Projects? Games?

>>50794582
I'm not even European and I know how weird Hungarians are when compared with everyone else with their language and actual ethnicity

>>50794609
it's basically a running joke, he always calls me slav and tries to make him correct. Then I sometimes call him a dirty gypsy and he tries to correct me that he is in fact romani.

>>50794631
>gypsy
>romani
Is there even a difference?

>>50794680
One is calling someone a nigger, the other is saying they are black.

>>50794539
>Don't kid yourself Slav
Nigga Hungarians are Huns, not Slavs. They're horsefucking barbarians who razed rome.

>>50794720
>Hungarians are Huns
That's what Hungarians like to brag about.
The truth is, they came in three centuries later. Still horsefucking barbarians, just not as glorious.

>>50785164
What this guy said, pretty much. We call LARP reenacting in my area, it's all the fun of dressing up in wool and furs and carrying an axe wherever you go without everyone looking at you like you're a total nut, and most of us get paid to do it so long as we talk to visitors about or characters every now and then.

>>50791813
Hello newfriend. Soon you will discover there are other ways to integrate than being a sheep and following the noisy whiny autismos.

>>50794524
How to know it's a Polish tale?
It's about a thief

>>50792083
Where in Ontario? its kinda big

>>50794680
this guy gets it >>50794704

>Warhammer 40K
>looks like a bunch of 17 year olds
Yeah, this shouldn't be surprising.

>>50794704
>>50794876
Nice to learn after so many years calling someone a gypsy is offensive.
Welcome to Bumfuck, Montana, I guess

>>50794925
It's only offensive if you call a white man gypsy

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>>50794524
Thanks for sharing.

>>50794574
>>50794609
>>50794720
I am well aware. Just a pet name for my husbandu.

>>50794582
It wont hurt my enjoyment either, but I miss old /tg/.

>>50794604
>Gear
A bunch of new clothes. After going hardcore on the conditioning/diet, my pants are getting baggy and my shirts/doublets are getting too tight at the shoulders and chest. Im kinda putting it off because I still have to make it through my family's Seven Fishes dinner (IE: 30 pounds of butter and fat per person), and after that, still have 14 pounds to drop for my goal. Obviously, the holidays and the weather are making it hard to lose the chub.

>Projects
Brass plating some of my kit for that sweet sweet In Modo Antiquo look.

My GF and I have also been discussing getting into merchanting, and selling historic goods at renfairs, larps, recreation events etc.

>Games
Looking to do more local games with the local Darkon branch, and another local game, as my GF is getting a little tired of current politics in my local SCA group. Im trying to crunch numbers to hit Bicolline with Frenadian. Maybe Pennsic War.

You?

>>50794680
See >>50794704. All gypsies are Romani, but not all Romani are gypsies. They are to us as niggers are to black people.

>>50794854
To be fair, all the Romani stories I know are about thieves.

>>50794925
We're pretty chill about it in general. Most people don't know. Just don't try to convince me that Disney's Hunchback of Notre dam movie is ok for documentation at a historic event.

>>50794954
White people are special in that they can be niggers without being black, and gyspies without being Rom.

>>50795007
>White people are special in that they can be niggers without being black, and gyspies without being Rom.
I've managed to be a Chink while being white. Not a weeaboo, but a Chink.

>>50795090
it's the white male privilage

>>50794854
Hey, fuck off!
Most of the stories are in fact about cunning peasants (fishermen if regarding Pomorze, the sea region) tricking out the devil. And the devil is always dressed as German bureaucrat, with fancy wig and patent leather shoes.

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>>50795090
You're not happy with your own slurs that you gotta steal ours? Check your privilege.

>>50795106
He identifies as "transgook"

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>>50795106
Did you've just assumed my gender?

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>>50795151
Hey, as long as you look good in faun makeup....

>>50795133
The devil also has a very high tendency to just dance in a tavern

>>50795151
did you just assumed that the pronoun I use is tied with a binary gender?

>>50794295
>>50794177
Silphy

>>50794925
Where in Montana?

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>>50795176
>faun makeup
I guess this triggered a story time.
So I've returned from the student exchange in China and my local group insisted I should do some thematic costume for the next event. They've eventually convinced me and I own few hanfu robes regardless and got a pretty nice one during the stay in Hubei. Anyway, I've spend few hours, doing my best take on the late Tang makeup (no, no black teeth) and the ridiculous hairdo, showed up and...
... for the rest of the day I had to listen how I did my geisha costume wrong from just about every single person. Just for the record - they've asked me for Chinese costume, it wasn't just a basic blunder.

>>50795258
He just said.
Bumfuck county.

>>50784454
The reason we're so lame is that we really don't have any background in making particularly good costuming and materials. I'm fairly sure that I'm the only one in the western half of my state who dicks around with latex and plastidip. Then again, it took me a good while to find out that there were actually any other larpers around here.

I'm trying my damndest to meet your standards, man. I've got a sword or two from Calimacil and whenever it's in season I try to get higher quality garb (sadly, Ren Faires are the best I can access without paying an abysmal shipping fee.) Sure, that US warhammer larp makes me want to take a boltpistol round to the skull, but at least some of us are trying

>>50784454
>Europeans are better at being faggots
>Obvious News Daily report by OP

>>50795288
There are three towns, a county, and two unincorporated townships in Montana named "Bumfuck".

I need more specific information.

>>50795304
You don't make your own garb?

That's like half the fun.

>>50795304
Speaking of which, why, just fucking WHY so many American cosplayer and larpers use all kinds and sorts of synthetic, extra-shining materials?!
It looks like shit, costs more, is harder do sew together and is very hard to keep in good shape or general condition.

Why it is then so widespread among burgers? I mean show me a photo of larpers and I will point out Americans just by their costumes 7 out of 10 times

>>50795381
what do you mean? as a burger, I don't even see it.

>>50795381
they don't have anything else in a reasonable price range, or so am I told by others.
Allegedly it's hard to get fair priced linen and wool there for some reason.
Or they just aren't searching for it hard enough

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>autists getting triggered by decent namefags for muh 4chan cred

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>>50795381
No idea.
Around here in europe we consider it a coming of age when a LARP er graduates from army surplus boots, sweatpants and the ubiquitous cape of stretchy shimmery tablecloth.

>>50795258
Woods Bay

>>50795440
But linen is literally THE cheapest possible fabric on this planet. And I keep hearing the same excuse - "synthetics are cheaper". They fucking aren't.

>>50795465
Capes made of shiny things at least are passable. But when someone is walking in nylon panths, it's just awkward.

>>50795194
That's when the story is from the eastern parts of Poland. Then the devil represents piss-drunk and completely incompetent Russian official, usually getting the brave peasant first piss drunk and then selling his soul or homestead. Or both.

>>50795535
actually it isn't. 100% linen isn't the cheapest thing in a lot of country. That's the thing: synthetics can be produces easier and cheaper.
But then again while it isn't the cheapest in most places it's still in the affordable price range.

But then again, do you know how many americans can sew? Because most of them will say that they can't and won't even try

>>50795376
I've made a fair bit of my winter costume, but I entered the fold at a time when schools taught us how to sew but only by hand. That dissuaded me from making stuff myself for a good few years, but I figure it's high time I learn to make my own damn cloak.

>>50795381
We're idiots. To make up for that though, I have met some really fleshed-out characters and extremely dedicated players. Once ended up in a conversation with a psych major on an NPC shift, now I lay awake at night trying to figure out my character's motivation.

>>50795440
That too. If there's anything you can buy, America will find some way to charge you more for it.

>>50795567
in Hungary, the devil is usally either a rich merchant or outright look like "the devil" (not Satan, that's a different thing)
And then simple herders and peasants will win against them in mind games and may or may not the devil will end up in a sack and beaten the living shit out of him.
I mean imagine, you are a motherfucking devil and a shepherd convinces you that it's a jolly good idea to get into a sack and when you get in the sack he ties the mouth of it and beat the shit out of you with a wooden stick. Then you have to go back to Satan and explain all of this, while he already doesn't have enough hands to facepalm over the stories of the other devils

>>50795568
Don't know how it works for Americans, but I remember I was taught how to sew things back in what? 2nd grade? I remember we were sewing a mouse-shaped pin-pillow. And I'm still using it, almost two decades later.

>>50795568
>>50795535

I was lucky enough to have a LARP class in my afterschool club.

First evening the instructor showed up what happens when a camfire flings sparks at thin and flimsy synthetics.

>>50795624
same here. I can sew by hend and frequently do so, although it's not nice looking, but does the job.
I have a little more problem with proper patterns or getting proper materials for a reasonable price (like 100% wool and such) but I know enough people who can make me the things I can't in exchange of money or other stuff that I can make

>>50795624
They taught us sewing in middle school, alongside cursive and a little bit of cooking. Suffice to say, I now know how to make a semi-decent Americanized pizza and pancakes that Glittergold himself would covet. Those were the only useful things middle school taught me. Not that hard when your other classes involve playing dodgeball for a history project (against teachers, who have tower shields.)

>>50795620
I like Prussian devils the most. When they swiftly balance between competence, being powerful and being greedy. By the end of the story, the good part of their work usually still remains.
Like that story about a hunter who always had to cross the marsh and one day he was spottend by a well-dressed guy (Prussian devils don't have horns, tails or stuff like that, instead they are impossibly well-dressed in the most bizzare places, like the middle of a bog) and from the talk the devil tricks the guy to build a dyke over the swamp. By the end of the story the devil is beaten due to the wording of the agreement rather than being beaten or convinced into some shitty setup (in this particular case, the wife of the hunter woke up the rooster and shine into its eyes with a candle until the poor animal started to crowing), and whatever the task he agreed to do is almost finished, requiring just some final touch. So you are save, beat a lawyer in his own game and got all the perks of the agreement.

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>>50784454
This is why, right fucking here. Because Amtguard exists.

it's more "tag" with fun noodle "dick swords" than it is a LARP. 90% of the players don't bother to dress up, wear any kind of garb, act in anything resembling a character. They just want to wave feather light dick swords at each other and claim it's a combat sport.

Everyone with more money, time or common sense is a part of some reenactment group or another. Leaving Amtguard Dag, and all the other foam fighting faggots to waggle their ridiculous looking "swords" at each other.

Nothing close to the European larps ever gets off the ground in the US because anyone sinking that much money into it will just join the SCA, Adria, or a HEMA group. There are maybe 3 to 5 nation wide that have halfway decent standards. And the rest are all just the worst.

>>50794445
Leve de grote pier!

Vive la grande jetéé!

>>50795714
does the devils and simple peasants regularly shapeshifts in your stories too or is that a hungarian specialty?

>>50790685
Japan dies Christan weddings because as expensive as they are, theyvare an order of magnitude more affordable than a traditional Japanese wedding.

Plus they've always been fond of miah-mashing religious ceremonies anyway; if they're going to be born Shinto and buried Buddhist, might as well get married Catholic along the way.

>>50795624
HAHAHAHA

America canned all "home studies" classes such as sewing or cooking on account of not being worth the money.

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>>50795535
Cotton. Linen is fucking stupidly priced if you don't order bulk bolts online or buy from linen wholesalers. Its considered a "luxury" fabric now.

Fucking bullshit.

>>50795624
Both my parents are SCA, and crafty. I learned to sew from them, but my mom or GF typically sew my fancy stuff, or I buy. Most American schools fail at teaching life skills.

>>50795634
I have seen what happens with ploy melts on a person. People are stupid. Linen, wool, silk and cotton only.

>>50795634
>LARP class
Nice to know it's even a thing

>>50795660
The best thing for cheap wool are old military blankets. They are sold by the bulk, made of pure wool and it only takes basic dying skills to turn them into any colour you want.

>>50795706
There is a running joke in my country, a quote from an old film
- Where did you learn to cook like this?!
- Before the war I've studied Pharmacy in Vienna
- And they've taught there how to cook?!
- No, but to read recipes, and there was a cooking book in the cupboard.
So technically, every school teaches you how to cook, because you know how to read.

>>50795765
Can't recall a single shapeshifter at all.

>>50795803
>The best thing for cheap wool are old military blankets. They are sold by the bulk, made of pure wool and it only takes basic dying skills to turn them into any colour you want.
I know. We have lots of those, but it isn't good for everything. It's too thick for form fitting hoses for example, and sometimes the color isn't right, and you can't always dye it in the correct color.
But they are good for heavy capes or for padded cloths.

There is also the swiss army leather gaiters that are very good for hiding your modern boots. Cheap, does the work well, holds your ankle too, and from far away it looks you have okay boots

>>50795787
It wasn't "home studies". I was taught this on a subject called "Technique". All sort of things mixed together - basic machine skills, basic electricity, OSHA stuff, basic home skills (sewing, oiling, how to lift things) and a training of engineering drawing, including the standarised handwriting for those.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a main-stay in the education for 2nd grade for past... well, at least since after the WW2.

>>50795855
Dunno what decade you're from, but that hasn't been in our system for a long while. I never had any classes like that.

>>50795803
It's was great.
LARP, Tabletop RPG and miniature gaming classes, too bad two alwas shared day's so you were bound to miss one of them every year.

Still that where i met most of my gaming group and best mates of some...
Fuck 14 years.

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>>50795853
What's up you Hungarian bastard?

>>50795535
>But linen is literally THE cheapest possible fabric on this planet

Linen and wool are considered "luxury materials" in the US, and are marked up accordingly. In general, basic cotton is the only even remotely non-synthetic fabric which is at all affordable for most of the larping population (ie, college students who absolutely MUST have a new cell phone every year and whom spend $40/day at Starbucks and are coincidentally always broke).

Right now, linen is $17/yard. Wool is $26/yard. Jo-ann's are the prices used because so few Americans know anything about sewing, that's the only place they're going to go to buy it. Even on Fabric.com (a US fabric discounter), the price is $14/yard and $20/yard, respectively.

You can get cheap-ass cotton at Walmart for $1.50/yard or less, by way of comparison. That's why nobody has linen or wool costuming.