EDH/Commander General: Tribal Edition

OP here, forgot to add the question:
What's your favorite tribe? Favorite commander for that tribe? Least favorite tribe?

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>>50757506
Love humans, never really knew why, just do. Favorite commander pic related. Least favorite tribe would be dragons.

Perfect segway

You gotta help me tg, all my friends play inf combos in all their decks. As i am not in the slightest of ways interested in playing them myself i need some sort of way to protect myself whilst playing my Sigarda deck but don't know how.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-12-16-sigarda-humans/

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>>50757496
>>50757506

The wonderful thing about slivers, is that slivers are wonderful things

>>50757585
What kind of infinite combos are there? You can run effects that keep you from having to sac stuff, while also running aetherswon canonist if they're not artifact based. You're G/W so Gaddog Teeg also does wonders, unless your meta is sub 4-drops.

>>50757496
>Tribal Edition
Alright, relates question then. I had an idea for a Leovold Elf tribal. Sure, it's not the optimal build for him, but I feel like BUG Elves could be interesting.

Is it an idea worth a fuck?

>>50757496
Nath seems like a pretty sweet Commander, anyone have experience with him?

First thing that comes to mind is Panharmonicon Elves

Should I go Black-White zombie token, or Black-Green zombie token? Who should be my general?

>>50757681
OP here, the reason I chose Nath as the main image was that he's rad as fuck. Panharmonicon Elves is definitely a spicy brew. Here's my Elfball list if you're looking for some inspiration

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/31-10-16-go-elf-yourself/

I need to update the list to include Panharmonicon.

>>50757616
Three main kinds
1. Oloro combos, Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood and there might be a Felidar too.
2. Brago, can't explain them all, inf mana, tokens, life, turns, play Stonehorn Dignitary so i can never attack, detain all of my permanents. The list goes on and on.
3. Planeswalkers, Rings of Brighthearth and doubling season with Jace, the Mindsculpter, Ajani Vengeant etc. Might not be inf, but still game winning combos

>>50757585
nigga, youre playing white. you have the best hatebears: thalia, new thalia, ethersworn canonist, gaddock tee, hushwing griff, spirit of the labyrinth, etc. plus they are all tutorable with green cards like chord of calling, eldritch evolution, birthing pod, etc.

Need to cut some from it, any suggestions?

>>50757762
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/who-wants-card-draw/

>>50757801
I'd trim down on some of your creatures, particularly:
Master of Cruelties
Fog Bank
Guard Gomazoa
Malfegor

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>>50757585
>NuSigarda
My person of color.

>>50757860
I kind of like Malfegor, be will MD up being a field nuke

>>50757506
Definitely elementals. A lot of them are in my favorite colors (red and green) and they have a lot of synergy with each other. Now if I had bags of money, I would probably build an Animar or Horde of Notions deck but until I actually have a real job that will never happen.

>>50757745
True, but have no idea what to remove from current decklist

Here's my Nekusar list that I'm brewin. Maybeboard is cards I already own. Any suggestions or stuff that I should put in/take out? I need your help /edh/.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wheelin-and-dealin-with-ya-boi-nekusar/

>>50757596
Slivers are so much fun to play. I should remake my sliver edh. I had one a long time ago

Because I just watched Rouge One last night, I need a Star Wars-themed edh deck. Any suggestions guys?

>>50757921
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-12-16-sigarda-humans/
Cut fiendslayer paladin, mayor of avrabuck, scorned villager, vivid meadow, and experiment one. Then jam
Thalia, New Thalia, Old Sigarda, Gaddog Teeg, and Aethersworn Canonist.

Vivid lands aren't really that spectacular in two color decks, and you can make due with 36 lands. Experiment one doesn't appear to get pumped very much, and can be replaced with better humans--namely Thalia(s). The rest just don't do much to be worth it, and if you're trying to stop combos my suggested hatebears can get you there.

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>>50757965
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/217186-lin-sivvi-the-rebel-scum

>>50758021
>printed in nemesis
wew lad

Are there any interesting mono black commanders? And is there a way to build leovold without everyone hating me? Or would leovold politics be possible like "you get to keep your hand if you leave me alone".

>>50757990
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-12-16-sigarda-humans
Damn, seems nice. Thanks OP

>>50758108
Yes, no, and no in that order.

>>50757506
Shapeshifter

But my non-meme answer is Shaman

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>>50757664
Bumping this, I want to get some opinions before I get too far into brewing it.

>>50758151
You're welcome m8, EDH deck construction is one thing but refining and tuning a list is another. I'm happy to help out if anyone else wants suggestions.

>>50758181
Second that

>>50758181
Could you tell me the commander? Looking for something new to build.

Well, that sucks.

>>50758202
I think it could be decent, there's some great GB Elves, and some great GW elves. Blue gives you access to card draw, and Leovold can keep your opponent's in check while you go balls out.

I say go for it anon.

>>50758236
Have a friend who plays Sheoldred, she seems nice.

>>50758236

Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief is pretty well liked.

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>went to my flgs
>snagged a FTV Ink Eyes, Mirko Vosk, Undead Alchemist, and a Zealous Conscripts
>some nice commander players told me they do events on sundays, and there is a facebook group to organize games
>tonight I get to test out my decks with some beer and buds
Today went better than expected. Is it worth building Ink-Eyes? Also holy shit I never noticed Ink-Eyes giant honking mouse titties. I do not suggest looking at google images with safe search off.

>>50758378
>Is it worth building Ink-Eyes?
You can't ninjutsu from the command zone, so no.

>>50758406
But that's narrow thinking. It has built in regenerate and reanimates your opponent's creatures. Yes, the ninjutsu part is nice, and I don`t know how often I get get it to deal combat damage in black, but it could be neat with various board wipes.

That being said, I`m pretty sure it`s going in my BUG clone and reanimator combo deck.

>>50758236
>>50758360
Gonti is fun too.

>>50757585
obligatory additions are eternal witness, chord of calling, recruiter of the guard, tireless tracker, mirrari's wake, and duskwatch recruiter

not a human but has nice human synergy is angelic overseer

because you are a tribal aggro deck you probably want to run cards that make your humans indestructible, such as dauntless escort, selfless spirit and avacyn

things I would cut:

gather the townsfolk: most of the time its just two tokens. terrible

scorned villager: you are better off running mana ramp like cultivate, kodama's reach, explosive vegetation, etc than having a mediocre mana dork

consul's lieutenant: attacking trigger is not worth it

experiment one: it takes forever to be a threat. dead draw late in the game

fiendslayer paladin: too small

heron's grace champion: gaining life is not that good unless your deck works around it

surrak: making your small creatures have haste doesn't seem too threatening

champion of the parish: same with experiment one. it takes forever to grow into a relevant threat

this is all my opinion anyways. hope it helps

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What's the worst alter you've ever seen /edh/? My vote is for this one. Just fucking look at it. If a new player saw that shit, there is no way they'd believe you when you explained what it did.

>>50758467
oh and if you want some spicy tech add Gallows at Willow Hill

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>>50758574

>>50757705
Go Abzan, Reyhan and Ravos.

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>>50758603
That's entry level anon. We've all seen those before, most people are just mad that expensive cards are ruined with trendy bullshit.

Just look at this thing. It was protected so that I had to print screen and crop the image in paint from his photobucket. I couldn't even save it like a normal jpeg. Why would someone do this to a card?

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>>50758638
Jesus fucking christ, some people's children man. At first, nothing seems wrong, just some stupid alter someone made online, and then you check that slight errata at the bottom of the card.

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>>50757506
GOBLINS.
ALWAYS BET ON GOBLINS.

Alright ya'll, I need some help. I've decided I want to build a new deck, and these are the legends I currently own, and can make a necent deck with what I have laying around + $50 to spend.

>Isperia, Supreme Judge
>Tasigur
>Teneb
>Zurgo Helmsmasher
>Jhoira
>Dragonlord Dromoka
>Kaseto
>Savra
>Yisan
>Daretti

The problem is I have no clue which one to pick. I'dpost a pic, but for some reason it won't let me upload one.

Who would you pick, knowing you can easily make a 70- 75% effective deck?

>>50758467
Thanks for the list, will take a closer look on what to change later tonight. Damn that recruiter of the guard is expensive.

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>>50758574
Didn't even see the nipples when I posted this.

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What are some green/red cards that inherently benefit more from being copied?

All that I'm seeing are cards with additional costs, and X-costing cards (which in my opinion don't actually benefit as much as people think they do--it's just copying a good spell after all is said and done, just happens to be a spell that you can make "gooder" depending on how much mana you have)

>>50758678
I would say Savra or Isperia

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>>50758699
I bet that was that one chandra alter some guy around here posts every day. That one was pretty fucking terrible.

Here is another one I had to crop from someone's photobucket. Eventually, you realize, some mother fucker signed rebbeca guay's artwork, and made it objectively shittier. Then, you google what the original card looks like, and realize 10 million people made alters of this one card for pauper reasons.

>>50758761
H-he made another one?

>>50758788
Any particular reasons? Other than half of the commanders on in my list are sort of meme- y?

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Would you let me run my custom commander?

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>>50758378
The only thing i can think to make her work as a commander is a voltron with control elements. Cards like bottomless pit and liliana vess. Field wipes like crux of fate and deadly tempest. There's the traditional black mana ramp and staples, such as necropotence. Give her some auras and equips and she should work as a decent commander.

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>>50758574

>>50758793
Didn´t he have like a DA account with loads of that stuff

Also I don´t think that´s Guays signature so your caption is wrong

>>50758909
The point was, someone took a good card with nice artwork, threw some garbage on top, and signed it, AND is selling it for a profit, despite it being a reasonable looking card designed by one of magic's best artists. But that's more 'tism than anything.

Anyways,
>Didn´t he have like a DA account with loads of that stuff
Jesus really? I must have missed that thread.

>>50758678
Zurgo, yisan, or daretti.
Zurgo voltron and field wipes
Yisan toolbox edh
Daretti artifact reanimationl with MLD or stax

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>>50758574
I personally hate these CGI crapshoot alters. They're just so... uninspired.

>>50758782
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-06-16-wort-the-raidmother-edh/
A friend and I brewed this up a while ago, it's got most of the incredible value spells.

>>50758986
>flying
>has no wings
>no indication of flying magic
It's a shit alter.

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heres my rune scarred demon alter, stylistically damaged to give off a "scarred" feel. i got it by ordering a "played" condition card on mcm.

>>50758986
Is Kaalia able to summon Angels, Demons and Dragons because they all want to take turns fucking her?

>>50759028

This is a work safe board, no gore pls

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>>50759023
You have no idea.

>>50759038
Kaalia always had a man face, and that "artist" happened to include it for some reason. That must be her secret.

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>>50757506
Fungus, and of course the primo OG mushroom man himself has to lead them

>>50759028
>scarred
>not sacred
Fuck, I always thought it was Rune Sacred Demon. I feel like an idiot...

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>>50758674
Kek the faggot reduced its mana cost

>>50759174
And added "draw a card"

>>50758986
>The Vast
>Barely D cups
It's shit

>>50759101
no fuck you this is brilliant

>>50757671
I see what you did there

>>50759253
>Oh look, that guy who copies a creature should be kirby
>let's just extend the boarders to give it a good background, but we won't use anything to prevent extra spillage on the textbox
>and, instead of painting the whole thing, let's just slap kirby in the middle, no one would notice

>>50759120

Dylsexic

>>50758986
Reminds me of the cheesecake banner ads for those sketchy flash games

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Is Bruna voltron any good? Seems like it could be fun to mill a bunch of Auras, give her haste, and one-shot a person.

>>50757723
>OP here, the reason I chose Nath as the main image was that he's rad as fuck. Panharmonicon Elves is definitely a spicy brew. Here's my Elfball list if you're looking for some inspiration
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/31-10-16-go-elf-yourself/
>I need to update the list to include Panharmonicon.


Awesome dude, glad to hear it! Deck looks sweet btw, didn't even think of Akroma's Memorial until I read over your decklist. Definitely gonna snag that for mine! Thanks for the list.

>>50759482
Eldrazi Inscription.dec

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>>50759379
>Dyslexic
I only suffer from one kind of erotic learning disability, and that aint it friend.

>>50759588
>Inscription

Conscription*

Botched that one up pretty good.

>>50758945
Found it
http://magicfantasyalters.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0

>>50759482
shes neat against new people you haven't played with before. Otherwise, people are quick to catch on.

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>>50757585

I would like to make a Modern mid-range humans deck with her
So far the only options for humans decks are mostly speedy aggro, though, meaning 5-mana is a bit of a stretch.
any ideas for mid-range human Modern??

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>>50759624
You weren't kidding, holy fucking shit. I saw this image and was like "Why the fuck is there naked anime girl wolverine on that island?" and the answer was, because of course there is, that's what the artist intended to draw.

>>50759681

I'm surprised I haven't seen more decks with Mirran Crusaders

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>>50759750
Fantastic in New Odric, especially combined with pic related.

>>50759750

He's used in Legacy Death + Taxes a lot as he fits really well in that meta, but don't see him much in Modern because of bolt and path. He is actually very potent maindeck in Modern I have seen though, at the very least he is a great sideboard option i

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Best humans in Modern:

Noble Hierarch
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Thatlia's Lieutenant
Thalia, Heretic Cathar
Knight of the Reliquary
Mirran Crusader
Paladin en-Vec
Auriok Champion
Knight of the White Orchid
........(add more)

>>50759787
>New Odric
Speaking of New Odric, I just cracked one, any other spicy tech I should be aware of?

>>50759896
its funny how he gave her freckles
maybe a few too many
when u look close it almost looks like dirt

>>50757671
>no T
I'll give you credit because a "student" is presumably young, but just this once, anon.

There are way too many decks I want to make.

While making an Atraxa infect it has got me wanting to make an Atraxa +1/+1 counters deck, and now I'm thinking about that Nath of the Gilt-Leaf B/G Elf deck, but also maybe a New Odric kind of Human deck too. I love the idea of tribals and trying to stay within a box like that.

neat

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Just grabbed the prebuilt deck for this. Anyone have experience? How did you do?

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/r-i-p-t-i-d-e/

How does this look? I made a few changes to it recently to be a bit more control-comboy and less midrangey. At this point, I'm almost considering a High Tide.

>>50757506
>Favorite Tribe: Elves
>Favorite Commander for Elves: Been trying out Freyalise hut she's been less than stellar. Have tried Ezuri in the past but that deck is just a shitty combo deck.
>Least Favorite Tribe: Slivers are pretty dumb.

>>50759903
Get out flying as fast as possible. Basilisk collar for deathtouch and lifelink, silence to protect the gang pre combat. Every game I win with him is from sudden flyers and untouchable life totals.>>50759903

>>50760060
I played against this commander a while ago, felt like he just speeds everything up for your opponents a lot of the time

>>50759482
I wouldn't recommend self-mill. Just draw them out or tutor for them.

>>50760072
Side bar:

I've been working on an artifact ramp deck filled with things like gilded lotus and whatnot. Would Odric be half decent general for that sort of deck, or should I stick with Elesh Norn? How do you over come the hilariously bad card draw?

>>50760060
Options:
Group hug meme dream. Just make a bunch of symmetrical effects with you getting more out of them by building your deck around them.
Enchantments matters. You get a lot of pretty spicy enchantments in those colors from things like Choke Hold to sepersion field. Your win conditions are generally Starfield of Nix, Opal Essence, form of the dragon.

>>50760120
For my Odric, stuff like Mentor of the Meek and Skullclamp on tokens keeps me going. It is difficult though.

Why don't more tribal decks run Coat of Arms? I feel like it's an auto-include/no-brainer.

>>50760177
The EDHrec list on him is pure garbage. I'll see if I can brew something.

Now, be straight with me anon, how bad is your card draw? I'm one of those "blue" cucklefucks that cantrips in every deck it's humanly possible to do it in. I'm of the opinion that red has better card draw than green because of red's sweet ass cheap looting. I have 3 decks that essentially read: "I have every 1 or 2 cmc draw spell I can find". Am I going to have a bad time?

>>50760233
It's committing suicide against any other tribal deck or against a token deck. Door of Destinies is so much safer.

>>50758574
>>50758638
Aren't these illegal to play with since you can't read the card name?

>>50760233
Obelisk of Urd motherfucker. That convoke is sweet sweet goodness.

>>50760233

Because it says "each creature", not "each creature you control"

>>50760233
it can backfire if your opponents have their own tribes going

also having massive creatures isn't sometimes enough if your opponents have enough chump blockers and stuff

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>>50757506
>favorite tribe
Viashino
>Favorite commander for that tribe
Not really much choice there, is there?
>Least favorite tribe?
Angels, Demons and Hydras.
Angels because they're forced in every set because they're popular and often broke as shit, while being the exact same boring as shit "blonde woman with wings and a sword" every time.
Demons because they're forced in every set and the exact same "big black/red humanoid with horns and hooves" every time. They should have never lifted the ban on Demons, Horrors were so much better.
Hydras because hydras suck shit and the fact that Wizards keeps trying to force them as Green's Dragon makes my favorite color worse.

>>50757496
I want to build Nath. what is some spicy tech for him?

>>50760320
>he doesn't like hydras, demons, or horrors
I have a BUG deck that's like Hydra demon and horror tribal. Don't you like spooky things or giant monsters with many heads?

I agree, angels suck.

>>50760320
>Angels because they're forced in every set because they're popular and often broke as shit, while being the exact same boring as shit "blonde woman with wings and a sword" every time.

I would love to see a Plane that had actual Old Testament inspired angels on it.

>>50760233
Depends on the meta of the LGS or playgroup

I like holy shit. What's a good decklist for an Angel or Human tribal? Preferably on the cheap.

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>>50760375
You misread, I like horrors a lot, they're awesome and reflect a lot of that early MtG feel where you had atypical and unsettling antagonists like Yawgmoth's Phyrexians. I hate demons because they're boring and more or less replaced the much more iconic horrors. I hate hydras because they're incredibly boring and not Green at all. Also typically terrible cards. Would be much happier with Elementals or Treefolk or even Kavu. Hell, why not Rhoxen?

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>>50760404
Like two sets of flaming wheels covered in eyes? Nobody would know that was an angel, so why would they even bother to call it that when it looks nothing like how-
>mfw I remember the M15 slivers
Shit, that's exactly the kind of thing they would do.

>>50757496
Favourite tribe: Angels
Favourite angel commander: Tariel
Worst tribe: Elves, don't trust 'em.

>>50760404
>I would love to see a Plane that had actual Old Testament inspired angels on it.
Oh fucking this. I bet fundamentalists would be pissed if the comparison was too linear, but hundred eyed, hundred handed, giant world-ending monsters with flaming "holy" weapons would be the tits.

>targeting me after all the free plays and draws while the superfriends guys has the highest life total

why is group hug such a thankless job?

>>50760485
They're just trying to hug you back with their creatures dude.

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>>50760320
We need more angel horrors.

Come to think of it, are there actually any male angels?

>>50760518
I think there's 2. One from Legends and one from the Time Spiral block.

>>50760485
>he thinks people are going to play into his sneaky plan
What happens, anon, is that you boost my rampy card drawy decks to the point that I can kill two players at once much faster than I normally could, and then I'll clown the group hug player before degeneracy comes out, along with whoever has the best board state.

The other thing that happens is the other players get salty that you're enabling combo-mcgee over there, and they need to kill you before he cantrips everyone to death.

>>50760233
Because it can buff your opponents creatures. Door of destinies is much better.

>>50760374
Waste not

>>50760485
Group hug is cancer.
Imagine this. You're in a four player game, and you make each player draw a card. To any given other player, you just made three of his opponents draw a card compared to his one. You're providing each individual player less than what you're giving their opponents, what exactly are they supposed to be grateful for?
Being in a game with a group hug player is throwing out all the guidelines about deck construction and smart game play. If you pack your deck with little ramp and spells that are 6+ mana, you're going to lose against well built and practiced decks. But if you have a group hug guy giving you tons of mana and cards, suddenly none of that matters, and now your shitty deck is being artificially inflated. On the flip side, the tuned powerful deck is gaining way more of an advantage than the shitty one, and is likely going to just run all over the table thanks to your "help."
And that's not even counting the fact that nine times out of ten, the group hug player doesn't try to win. What's the point in sitting down with two opponents and a cheerleader?
Fuck group hug.

>>50760580
Also Dark Deal

>>50760518
Silver seraph

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>>50760607
Nope, that's a girl.
>>50760547

I see, because I can name atleast 10 stereotypical angels but not one male.

>>50760250
It sucks. A lot of games I lose come down to running out if gas faster than my opponents. If you are not beating in with at least 3-4 ability stacks by turn 5, it's going to be rough, unless you play something like Elspeth Knight Errant to draw flak away from Odric.

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If you could ban one card, what would it be?
It would be pic related for me, had this fucker ruin one too many games for me.

>>50760485
>durr let's give the combo and control players lots of resources
>wtf why don't the aggro players like me???

>>50760772
the best thing is how the guy always gets all smug before casting it

>>50760772
>banning cyc rift before food chain, ad nauseam, sol ring, crypt, palinchron, or any number of meme cards
Fuck off, retard.

>>50760811
Just that makes me go fucking insane

>>50760772
>banning cyclonic rift
Come on anon, it's not even that good. If someone has 7 free mana, you should be able to stop whatever they're going to do, or you deserve to be punked.

>>50760856
please stop bluesplaining. not all of us are privileged enough to interact with the stack

>>50760831
Don't get angry with me now, i wan't cyc rift banned because it is a card i deal with all of the time, i have never played against most of those card you mention there. But they seem kinda op, ill give you that

>>50760831
Played against all of those except for Nauseum. Rift is still the biggest cancer because it's a guaranteed blowout on its own without having to pair it with any other cards.

>>50760879
See, the problem is - your mentality is the same as Sheldon's stupid-ass banlist mentality.
>w-well, when we play, Prophet of Kruphix is the biggest issue
>hey, Sheldon, what about degenerate cards like Food Chain
>that's only degenerate if you MAKE it degenerate!!

>>50760886
And food chain / palinchron let you win on the spot.

i honestly want to put cyclonic rift into my spell recurring deck even though it really disgusts me. maybe if i abuse it enough, my group will ban it like i want them to

>>50760856
7 is chump change in EDH. I can rift on turn 3 with counter backup consistently.

>>50760874
>bluesplaining
Alright, I got a chuckle.

But seriously, if you can't deal with a 7 mana instant board wipe, you should probably have a backup plan. There are a ton of nonsense that can deal with it, just pick your colour. Only monogreen will have a really awful time, but even still, it's not like you don't have access to the best ramp in the game.

>>50760874
Great point, i dont play a single deck that interacts with the stack in that way. That's why rift is aids

>>50760908
Why would you rift t3? That sounds like a play a moron with more money than sense would make.

>>50760926
Can, not do. Pay attention.

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>>50760935
>I "can" rift on turn 3 with counter backup consistently.
>But, I don't do this very specific play that I just mentioned. Pay attention, jeeze anon, can you read?

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>built mill once
>it sucked so bad i took it apart after one game
>months later
>want to build it again

i keep lying to myself and saying it'll be better this time. someone please speak some sense to me

>>50760961
I think their point is that it's not hard to produce the requisite seven mana by t3. not that that's a good argument because you'd rarely, if ever, want to overload rift t3.

>>50760984

"Boy I wish I was playing burn but I could only swing for the dome and my opponent had twice as much life."

>>50760984
Just mill with Undead Alchemist out instead. That way, when you inevitably hit their eldrazi titan, you at least get a zombie out of the deal.

Don't make mill your wincon, make it the way to use your wincons effectively.

>>50760984
Mill can be decent, but you should have cards like waste not, megrim and undead alchemist as secondary wincons.

Also, the best way to do mill is to pair it with disgustingly oppressive discard. Your friends will hate you, but discard + mill is strong.

>>50760901
Explain to me how Food chain and palinchron win you the game when not paired with other combo pieces? Rift is cancer because it's the blue Sol Ring - any deck running blue has it unless they are purposefully trying to gimp the deck. It can and will end games on the spot if your opponents can't counter, all at instant speed for some fucked up reason that only WotC can fathom. Even if it doesn't win you the game, you've just taken a huge greasy shit on your opponents' last 4-5 turns. A tempo swing that major for only 7 mana and 1 card? Yeah, I'll take that.

>>50761012
My point was, if your opponent has 7 mana, you should have 7 mana, and something to play in response, or something to do after it resolves. The other point was, if your opponent has 7 mana, they can win the game in any number of ways, and you should be able to as well. Like I said, only monogreen and maybe golgari are going to have problems against it, but golgari can reanimate whatever you discard, and monogreen doesn't care, because they can just use their 10 million lands to cast their shit again.

>>50761073
Second that

>>50761054
>Also, the best way to do mill is to pair it with disgustingly oppressive discard. Your friends will hate you, but discard + mill is strong.
Smart man.

Also, clone, reanimate, steal, and abuse their shit. A ton of things fuck with stuff in their yard, use them to your advantage.

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>>50760663
>>50760518

>>50761073
Wowwww, you need to pair Palinchron with
>DEN
>Phantasmal Image
>High Tide
>Vorinclex
>any fucking mana doubler
>Sneak Attack
OR food chain, which you can use to instantly win with
>Prossh (a general)
>Misthollow Griffin x Eternal Scourge (a staple in food chain tazri - one of the strongest decks floating around EDH)

Cyclonic rift is a good tempo swing, but it hardly wins you the game, and it's hardly devastating compared to some of the banworthy "answers" like Balance.

Unless, of course, you're a shitter who can't play around a 7-mana instant that's completely telegraphed.

>>50761265
>>Unless, of course, you're a shitter who can't play around a 7-mana instant that's completely telegraphed.

what is the correct counterplay to the blue player casting cyclonic rift? dont play nonlands?

>>50761306
Force the player to cast it? Try to go off with a combo? Swing in with some dudes during combat then replay your board on second main?

hownew.ru

>>50761316
yeah dude just bait it out lmao just rebuild your bro haha all of the board bro

>>50761265
I like how you have to use MOTHERFUCKING BALANCE to state that Rift isn't a busted card.

>>50761345
>>50761339
How do you turboshitters function in EDH pods? Do you lose your shit when someone lethals you at 10 infect? Do you have a seizure when someone commandeer's your precious planeswalker? Do you scoop to armageddon?

What is wrong with you people?

>>50761339
Is that the EDH-equivalent advice of "Just be urself :)"

>>50761380
its ok to play degenerate cards, just dont act like they arent degenerate

>>50761403
But it isn't degenerate. It's an answer.

>>50761316
>Look guys, it's simple. You just have to be in a position to win the game, then they'll cast it!

Gee, it's almost like the spell still stopped you from winning/killing them, which is the reason they put it in their decks in the first place.

That's not counterplay. The only real counterplay is lots of land based ramp and lots of good etb creatures (or playing blue)

Not an advocate for banning it by any means, just wanted to say something because your post was stupid as fuck.

>>50761306
Counterspell, Fork, Mana Tithe, vela the night clad, Extractor demon, Lapse of Certainty ,Legion's Initiative, Ghostway, literally any "sadistic sacrament" type card, Swan Song, Possibility Storm, Dash Hopes, Grand Abolisher.

Really, there are more, but the point is, you haven't looked and you'd rather bitch.

>>50761414
ah yes blue is so handicapped as a color that they need an answer to "i need to get rid of literally everything on the board except my own shit, at instant speed"

>>50761380
>Do you lose your shit when someone lethals you at 10 infect?

No, because I can answer the infect creature/damage regardless of the color I'm playing

>Do you have a seizure when someone commandeer's your precious planeswalker?

No, I actually wish tuck was still a thing so there would be more answers to commanders.

>Do you scoop to armageddon?
No, because it's a fair effect to everyone that isn't the autistic ramp player.

>>50761440
>Mana Tithe
wow dude

>>50757585
Sigarda with "create" template when.

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>>50761464
>Look at me, I didn't even pick dash hopes as the card to bitch about.
At least you sort of know how to read and greentext, so there is still hope.

>>50761435
Or just run a lot of rocks? Or just have one exceptional ETB in play that's easy to take advantage of? There are so many scenarios where recovering is incredibly simple, especially at the 7-mana mark.

>>50761461
You niggers are overvaluing a 7-mana semi-wrath. Do you get this assblasted when someone vomits a Vandalblast? I don't get the hate for such a basic goddamn utility card.

>>50761380
>Do you scoop to armageddon?
I have. Mass land destruction, especially late game, is rather annoying and disheartening.

>>50761488
as if i would continue to read a single word of your dogshit garbage post after you mentioned mana tithe as a counter to cyclonic rift. simply kys yourself immediately you trilobite

>>50761534
Shitter

>>50761496
>7-mana semi-wrath
7 mana semi wrath that hits all nonlands at instant speed. oh, except yours

yes that seems like a very apt comparison. its just an overcosted wrath.

>>50761496
I'm guessing the people who bitch about cyclonic are aggro players, though that raises the question why they don't whine about wrath effects.

>>50758986
To be fair the original art is really fucking shitty too.

>>50761534
>>50761543
I don't think theres anything wrong with scooping to 'Geddon if you have no contingency plan and the caster clearly does. I'm not gonna want to play out a game where someone played Sun Titan into Armageddon, they've pretty clearly won.

Sylvan Library and Teferi's Puzzle Box are pretty legit together

>>50761539
>trilobite
So, I'm an ancient, nigh indestructible arthropod? The word your looking for is "troglodyte", which refers to a caveman, and could be used to insinuate that I'm a low functioning human being. All calling me a "trilobite" does is remind me of horseshoe crabs and Ween.

If you're spending 7 mana, chances are, that's all the mana you have, or you would have cast it earlier, particularly if you're a smug blue player.

anyone ever play EDH on xmage? is it actually fun or is it just filled with try hards?

>>50761543
So spending the next 30 minutes doing nothing, waiting to die is instead what I should be doing?
I would presume "I concede, fuck you in the nicest way possible for using mass land destruction. Want to play again?" is better than that, but it could just be me.

>>50759896
I don't like this one. The close-up is too much, and the sword feels added "yeah, yeah, sure it's thalia and not some random bland face".

>>50761564
Probably because most wraths are symmetrical, sorcery speed and only hit one permanent type.

>>50761610
Wraths are traditionally best utilized in asymmetrical situations, and in EDH, can easily be 1-for-15s

Cyclonic Rift just stalls people at the right time.

What's the best abzan commander?

>>50761606
>30 minutes
If they aren't using planeswalkers and artifacts to quickly and easily beat you while you have no lands, they're the shitters, not you anon.

>>50760518
Fusing the names make it sounds really silly. "The Voice of Nightmares" would have been better.

>>50761601
i know what i said bitch. go back to the paleozoic era where you belong

>>50761670
Ghave or Karador.

Anafenza if you want to piss people off.

Doran if you want to be a cool guy.

Can't really go wrong in Abzan.

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>>50761698
>6 minutes of vicious googling later, this is the only reply I can think of
The first appearance of trilobites in the fossil record defines the base of the Atdabanian stage of the Early Cambrian period (521 million years ago), and they flourished throughout the lower Paleozoic era before beginning a drawn-out decline to extinction when, during the Devonian, all trilobite orders except the Proetids died out. Trilobites finally disappeared in the mass extinction at the end of the Permian about 250 million years ago.

So, to paraphrase, if you wanted to diss someone by calling them a trylobite, tell them to go back to the Permian Era.

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>>50761705

>>50761799
Shhh, we don't talk about him.

>>50761799
Arguably one of the worst legendary cards ever printed, up there with the hilariously overcosted dimir legendaries, and the stuff from legends.

>>50761751
i use bing you moron

are we experiencing flavor of the month or is commander 2016 the worst thing to happen to the format?

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>>50761827
Leave legends alone.

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>>50761827
Legends was groundbreaking for its time and had a lot of cool commanders. My main boi Rasputin originates from Legends.

>>50761496
How the hell do lots of rocks work against rift? Did you forget what the spell does? You have to recast those, and you lose out on even more tempo. And if you only have one good etb creature in play what's forcing them to use the rift?

Like I said, rift doesn't need to be banned, but you need to stop trying here. You are so retarded you're doing more harm than good. Unless this is all some elaborate countertroll conducted by you to make people think it is a good idea to ban rift?

>>50762136
Don't reply to obvious bait and they'll stop posting it. Meta-trolling is barely a thing, usually you're just giving someone who is retarded the benefit of the doubt.

>>50762049
Flavor of the month. No one really cares, and the people botching are usually hilariously new and terrible. It's like Meren last year.

>>50762136
Are you stupid? You recover handily from a rift if you have rocks, because the majority of your board presence would, at that point BE rocks.
>drop Ring
>drop Fellwar Stone
>Dynamo
>whatever the fuck
Getting rifted is often objectively better than getting wrath'd or vandalblasted.

>>50762091
I always wished Lucrezia had a decent ability that was playable. I mean, that art is cool as fuck.

>>50760463
Thinking hydras is boring is your opinion. Green needs a big creature type the same way red has dragons, white with angels, etc. Kavu was a creature made for the story,rhoxen isn't a creaturw type, elementals are everywhere cause elements, and treefolk could work but they aren't exactly big and splashy.
Hydras work cause they're big creatures and has the aspect of green of feral ferocity.

>>50762049
No, its just that MtG is a big mistake.

>>50762388
>Hydras
>not wurms
Fuckin FAGS

>>50762049
flavor of the month, people will get bored of c16 eventually the same way they did with meren and trash pope

>>50762524
>Meren

Meren seems really good. Definitely wouldn't mind giving her a shot.

>Breya driving up the prices on all the good artifacts
C16 was a mistake

>>50762579
ya she is fun but there are a ton of things that fuck her over

>>50757664
Alright, I've got something drummed up for this. Decided to forego wheels because I still kinda like my friends, but I'm at least using Howling Mine type stuff to get some asymmetrical value out of symmetrical stuff.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/around-elves-watch-yourselves-3/

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>>50762583
>Commander was a mistake
Fixed that for you

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Thoughts on old Drana for tribal vampires? Would you switch to Olivia for red? Not interested in being competitive against T1 decks, but to have a decent deck at a casual table.

>>50762706
Drana is good as fuck senpai. Removal + evasive commander damage in one sexy package.

>>50762656
True but it's still the funnest format

How would you build a question and answer type deck? The main theme would be cards that pose a "question" like burn or negative impact enchantments while having an "answer" for anything thrown you way with creatures, their ability, or spells. I figure blue is a must but i cannot decide on the other color or colors to build it around.

>>50762706
>>50762756
not that anon, but how do vampires compare to zombos? ive been trying a zombo deck on xmage but i just can't get it to do anything. it's just so slow.

maybe i should just buy 33 relentless rats and build a rat tribal

>>50762756
now would you build her mono-black control+voltron, or is vampire tribal any semblance of viable?

>>50762950
Well she has no synergy for tribal, but tribal decks are rarely optimal and are usually played for flavor.

>>50759903
A creature summoned with Hall of the Bandit Lord has haste indefinitely

>>50763052
Not a Newdric player, but that might be the spiciest thing I've ever seen suggested in these generals. That is fucking cheeky as hell.

>>50762793
Who is your commander? Anyways, Gravecrawler, relentless dead, diregraf colossus, cryptbreaker for early game. Priced amalgam if you're in blue, dark salvation as removal, new liliana is decent too, also you can play endless ranks of dead as early as turn two with a sol ring. Mikaeus the unhallowed for flavor and late game could help too.

>>50763052
Newdric player from earlier; I didn't know this existed. That's spicy.

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/azami-lady-of-idfk-what-im-doing/ I need help cuttig 3 cards from this, advice is also welcome.

>>50763107
currently running balthor to get my zombos back from the grave.

the thing is that no matter what, the zombies aren't high enough value for their mana cost. you need like 2 lords AND a ton of zombie tokens to do anything. even then it seems like all you can do is beats. most other tribals can do other stuff too. or they roll out faster like krenko or elves do.

>>50762793
>>50763107

not op, but i was thing of vela for a semi zombie tribal. i know there is better but i had flavor reasons (closest legendary to be Ophelia for a Drowing Doom theme).

>>50761605
I play EDH on xmage quite a bit and it's not too bad, but occasionally there are software issues, people taking too long to do something, or not passing priority because they don't realize they need to

>>50763177
What about grave titan? zombie apocalpyse? Cementary reaper? The good thing is that zombies get a lot of lords.

Also you should consider a black and blue commander or even thraximundar or sedris, gives you access to more stuff and also rooftop storm.

>>50763320
nah the thing is that i want to build something in monoblack because i bought all these staples for it and then had to take apart my deck because of group getting sad over kokusho recur spam. i've already found a way to reuse my recur stuff for another deck, so now i only have the monoblack staples like necropotence, cabal coffers, etc.

sadly i've noticed that monoblack has very few viable builds that aren't really degenerate like combo or stax

here are the random ideas i've had

>fuck all creatures: the deck
drana, kalitas, erebos or maybe even toshiro. just smash everyones creatures constantly and use ltb effects to take advantage of that somehow. i dont know
>voltron smash
drana, korlash or someone as the commander. smash shit.
>geth, lord of the vault mill
mill everyone, make big mana, cast their creatures. i dont know what else the deck does.

>>50763389
Oh, I understand.
>leave the battlefield effects

Stuff like blood artist maybe?

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>just got back into Magic
>build a sek'kuar deck
>go to the game lounge near me because they had a EDH event today
>show up and everyone is paired off, playing and talking amongst themselves, don't know if they're even gonna play EDH
>too nervous to talk to anyone so I pretend to look at the arcade machines and leave

>>50763479
pretty much. i have a ton of LTB effect stuff already. just not sure what to bolt them on. i know the deck archetype isn't super strong but whatever.

i think i'm the most interested in geth right now, though. maybe if i just put in a billion ramp cards, cheap removal and ltb synergy, then killed stuff with my 99 and resurrected said stuff with my commander. not sure how well it would work, though

Working on Leovold, considering some cards like Liliana's Caress and Sphinx's Tutelage. But wondering: if I wheel. Do those count as a single instance of draw/discard or does each individual card count?

>>50763602
Each individual card counts.

>>50763620

Excellent. Thanks.

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>>50763052
I checked the rulings. Holy shit i didn't realize it. Thanks for mentioning this!

What commander should I build around next? Currently have Animar, which is just a pile of foodstuff, Karador that has nothing but value but can go infinite, and Tasigur, which is tons of permission and board wipes, and needs to grind out all of its wins. I've previously played Kresh, Prossh, Jor Kadeen, original Teysa, Pheldagrif group hug, Thrax and Maelstrom Wanderer.

>>50760923

I started playing magic 3 months ago and I think you're garbage

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>>50757671
I don't get it, help me out

Also what would happen if you made a deck with all the planeswalkers, or at least 60 or so of them? Would winning be remotely possible?

>>50763946

Mutant Turtle Ninjas

>>50763174
>Temple Bell
Azami is all about draw for you. Dont give your opponents any leeway. I tried this before and it ended up being drowned out by all the other draw you have.

>Stonybrook Banneret
I've never been a fan of these guys. The older "make your dudes cost 1 less" had relevant key abilities to boot "Haste, holy power to all, regeneration, ect ect". I feel the impact of this is very small and not really needed.

>Lighthouse Chronologist
Don't. He's a magnet for removal and you usually spend most of your mana just getting him there, then he dies. He's really cool creature, but in most environments he's just gonna put the entire board presence on you immediately.

Here's my list, if you wanna compare. Mine doesn't use really expensive staples but it works in both my casual and competitive environments.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/azamis-robe-of-secrets/

>>50761609
From what I understand the light in her eyes is Avacyn and she's supposed to be looking up at the Innistrad equivalent of God

>>50757506
>Favorite Tribe
Clerics. Their prevent damage ability isn't awesome but when Life.dec was created when Daru Spiritualist came out, it was a sweet effect with the random En-Kor cards I had. I could just transfer damage around AND gain infinite life. I just wish they could be more relevant in commander, like having more Deflecting Palm type things.
>Favorite Tribe Commander
Ayli. She's got part of the needed combo piece stapled to her and I can banish things once I get to infinite life.
>Least Favorite Tribe
Goblins. I HATE GOBLINS. When Piledriver got released there were only two decks I knew of in standard at the time: RW Slide and Goblins. Piledriver just wrecked me all day long because I could never find a Lightning Rift or other removal when I needed it.

Any suggestions for this Sigarda list I cobbled together the other day? I figure it's fairly straight forward but I may have missed something.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sigarda-zonvolt/

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>>50763052
I love it. Able to bring some eyebrow raises across the table when people complain about future creatures not having haste. Probably the coolest thing I discovered from these generals since the Vesuva + Song of Dryads clone trick some anon mentioned earlier for Titania decks.

>>50760320
>the exact same boring as shit "blonde woman with wings and a sword"
>glorious Innistrad redheads

Also, fuck that's some shit taste, and that's even when agreeing with you on angels and demons being too common.

Here's what I have to work with:

>Anax and Cymede
>Anthousa, Setessan Hero
>Bosh, Iron Golem
>Erebos, God of the Dead
>Feldon of the Third Path
>Hythonia the Cruel
>Olivia Voldaren
>Sharuum the Hegemon
>Sydri, Galvanic Genius
>Talrand, Sky Summoner
>Thassa, God of the Sea
>Uril, the Miststalker
>Daretti, Scrap Savant

Can anyone recommend a fun deck? Bored to tears with what I have now (Uril stompy voltron, Oloro Leb Maniac combo/control, Daretti the usual, Olivia discard/voltron). Should mention my land base is shit so 3 colours is doable but not great.

I like to play control if that helps but I'll take any suggestions.

>>50764464
never foggetti the daretti

>>50764497
He does one thing and it gets old fast.

How bad of an idea is it to play a deck without any removal or board wipes?

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How often do you spar 1v1, non-french?

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>>50760518

>>50764626
>spar
>playing 1v1

kys

>>50760464
>>50760404
They tried that with the Kami.

It didn't work, Kamigawa was bad overall and people had no idea what the hell they're looking at.

>>50764626
nice mat

>>50764652
I would like to see a lot of the legendary creatures from Legends get new cards in a supplementary product of some sort. Too bad Wizards is doing everything in their power to forget that Dominaria exists.

>>50764590
Yeah, it feels like playing green.

>>50764652
neat. i'd use that with a strionic resonator.

>>50764626
French is a fucking joke on par with Tiny Leaders at this point.

>>50764675
I don't understand, is there something wrong with playing 1v1 on off "non-edh-nights" days?
>>50764723
Thanks!
>>50764757
Ive never played tiny leaders

>>50764730
They acknowledge it, and a few legends were revamped in TS, thing is that there's the Reserved List and Dominara as a plane is a pain to do with their current way of doing blocks unless you want just bits and pieces of each area.


The problem with the plane is that most other planes have a set style or theme they can apply evenly with mechanics and the like. Dominara is a deep plane with a lot of complexity in locations, so a return would be either:
>Time Spiral style, touching only the basics and not delving on details
>Only focusing on one area, which isn't how WOTC wants to do sets.

Currently on the Rabiah scale (like the storm scale, 1 is Ravica/Innistrad, 10 is Rabiah AKA Arabian Nights), it's a 4, so not common, but not too unlikely.

>>50764837
edh is a multiplayer format. 1v1 is stupid and pointless, just go play modern or standard if thats what you want

>>50764885
But I want to play my decks, and the only person to play with me this late is my girlfriend

>>50764464
Could use some help here.

>>50764903
play on xmage

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Could use some help with this:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-red-goblin-artificer

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>>50757506
Zombies. They've always been the tribe I felt the most for since I started playing. Always fond of new, exciting zombies. Favorite commander is pic related.

>>50760910
As a mono-G Omnath player, I can tell you that Cyclonic Rift absolutely blows me the fuck out 99% of the time it's played. I had to put in a Gemstone Array and a Helix Pinnacle to compensate. Having said that, I still wouldn't see it banned before Ad Nauseum, Land Tax, etc.

>>50764954
All the fun of a tabletop card game, without the tabletop!

Take a friendly game and turn it into an anonymous netdecked powercreeped hell.

No thank you

reminder that johnnys are safe space needing autists who get mad when their dog shit decks get BTFO

>>50765178
Vorthos is all that matters. All other players are trash.

>>50765178
What?
All the ones I've met have accepted they're usually going to lose but are smug as fuck when their shit goes off.

>>50762524
Trash pope?

>>50765272
daretti

>>50765001
Where the fuck is your damn Chaos Warp

i think one thing i've learned from playing blue is people hate discarding more than they love drawing

>>50759117
My nigga. I can't get behind Ghavu simply because he's so suited towards infinite and tokens rather than fungus tribal... but Thelon, is my man.

So do you guys ever take a whole day just to sort through your magic collection?

Been a year since I did it last and I've pretty much lost control over what the different piles are supposed to be, so I've been sorting through them for the last eight hours, and I'm less than halfway through.

What kind of system do you guys use to organize it?

>>50761054
Mill-Recursion Lazav here. This guy is correct. You either hybrid mill or infinite mana mill with something like Oona. Due to Eldrazi/Blightsteel/Darksteel shuffle you'd need a hefty investment in instant removal of those cards, or things like extract (doing this for everyone at the table sucks)

With my Lazav deck, I have several wincons. Lazzy himself might get lucky with commander damage off a big transformation, or occasional hinder tunnelvisions, or big damage mortivore/consuming abberations, or sepulchral primordial/rise of the dark realms.

But if you want pure mill, infinite mana + mill effect, while carrying toolbox counterspells/removal/removal of shuffle effect.

>>50765544
Orange & Golds > Playsets and staples > sorted by color (all commons and uncommons) > lands

Basically the only things you need to sort are your rares, foils and playable staples (regardless of rarity). Everything else is bs extra.

>>50764626

All the time

>>50764013

I literally have no idea how you can't appreciate wizards costing 1 less

Stonybrook Banneret is so fuckig good in Azami

>>50765576
does an opponent having blightsteel colossus in their deck make it impossible to mill them out?

>>50764464
A-anyone?

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>>50765001
Not memeing here: Warp World is worth considering. You currently have 10 non-permanents in your entire deck. You have a decent chance on coming out on top if it resolves.

>>50765106

>Wanting Land Tax banned

You're a bad person

>>50765757
Anthousa cuz I've never seen anyone play it

>>50765735

The most popular infinite mana > infinite mill combo is Oona, which exiles libraries, so no

As far as infinite mill combos like dusk mantle guild mage, you would need gy hate like leyline of the void to beat blightsteel collosus, tormod's crypt would be enough to beat an eldrazi Titan

But the thing is, that sounds worse than it is, because if you're milling your opponents as part of your deck strat, you should have plenty of gy hate anyway

>>50765645
Because just 1 less is really meh. Thats it. It's not really impactful and honestly, I'd rather use something like Cloudkey and just choose creatures.

>>50765735
No, you just need things that remove them instantly before their effect. Google MTGsalvation "need-cards-that-can-respond-to-eldrazi-shuffle"

>>50765757

You say you like control, I think you could do Olivia Voldaren as a BR control deck with lots of draw and lots of board wipes, then late game get Olivia online stealing stuff

Also you could do mono U goodstuff control with Thassa, she would just be there to scry every turn early on and in the mid and late game be a solid force in combat, both as an indestructible blocker and for her unblockability ability

>>50765822
blightsteel's text is a replacement effect instead of triggered ability to it functions slightly different from the eldrazi titans

>>50765822
as far as I know, the only way for BSC to actually enter GY is for it to lose abilities before dying

>>50765819
Costing 1 less is huge man, late game I'm casting 3-4 wizards a turn hopefully, bouncing them back and forth. Stony brook is one of the most important cards in my Azami deck

Cloudkey can't be tapped by Azami to draw cards like stony brook can, it's a 2 mana wizard, and it makes all your wizards cheaper which means more cheap draw

I mean if you played with it and THEN cut it, that's one thing, I looked at your decklist and it's not bad, so I trust your judgment, but you should definitely try it if you haven't

>>50765944
Oh I did, and I did take it out.

Actually, Fallowsage tooks it place. I added Trickster recently and its put in work. I actually think it got up to a 11/11 before someone killed it.

I never used a bounce subtheme. More of ways to get your MoM combo out. Long Term Plans is amazing.

>le casualfag
>It's not about the cards, but having fun
>Someone brings a competitive deck
>Fuck off faggot you can't have fun fucking netdecker kys
Hypocrital casuals, or edh un a nutshell

>>50765855
Love both of these ideas, thank you.

Current Olivia has a ton of removal, it's actually how I originally made her. She was my first deck ever and went really well. I added discard to up my ability to steer things my way and it was a little too effective. The other guy (she was eventually changed for 1v1 but I'm looking for multiplayer decks now, new group) never got to play. I felt bad so I took those out. Bringing her back to her roots could be fun.

Thassa can definitely work like that. Cheap as hell in terms of land, too.

>>50765797
That might be pretty funny, just have to figure out what to drop. I think I'm also in dire need of draw outside the wheel effects so I have to find room for Mind's Eye and Staff of Nin

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>Entwined Tooth and Nail resolves
>grab Keldon Firebombers and It That Betrays

>>50766023
it's also in Red's flavor for round-about enchantment removal

>>50765001
You could probably go without one of the three mana doublers you currently have.

Also, I'd recommend Genesis Chamber, or at least some other artifact token producer for Goblin Welder, I'm sensing a graveyard theme in there

>>50765976

Fallow sage is dope, I've never tried the trickster but I'm always on the look out for 1-2 cmc wizards, might try him

I used to run mind over matter but I decided I prefer my other combos, so I cut long term plans and lab maniac too, now my deck is focused on bouncing and replaying wizards and I find it much more fun than digging for mind over matter

Now my list is more wizard dense and i basically win by casting time warp with at least 3 wizards in play, which is usually enough to start a chain reaction ending with infinite mana and cards

>>50766105
You could have just won instead though.

>>50766105
>>50766176

>tfw you literally don't run a way to flat out win with an entwined Tooth and Nail

But drawing 16 cards and making 31 power means I basically win.

>>50766207

Worldsspine wurm + zegana?

>>50766225

Yep, I run that in my Animar deck as my go-to for Tooth and Nail. Plus they're pretty good on their own.

>>50766242
Or you could grab ancestral statue and soul of the harvest instead because that's not shit?

>>50766352

I could, but where's the fun in that?

>>50766242

Seems cool

I run craterhoof in my sisay deck so tooth and nail is often an instant win but not if i only have a very small board, so I have lots of different tooth and nail combinations I like to get

If I untap with just sisay and like maybe a mana dork or two, I like to tooth and nail for Seedborn muse + soul of the harvest, then I use sisay to get yeva nature's herald, so I can basically rebuild a crazy lethal board by the time it comes back to me from starting with just sisay basically

Another one I've done that's kinda funny was I had a pretty gnarly board + gaea's cradle but my elesh norn and craterhoof were exiled earlier in the game so I still didnt really have lethal on anybody, so what I did was tooth and nail for regal force + green warden of Murasa, draw 1 billion, return tooth and nail to hand, cast it again for restoration angel and eternal witness, flickered regal force, got back ghostway, and then I had up infinite ghost ways until it came back to my turn and I could swing with all that shit I drew

>>50766367

I don't run anything with quite that many interactions in my Animar deck. It's basically just a pile of good stuff.

>>50765576
List? I want to do a deck that does just that with Wheel effects/Mill while taking shit from graveyards, but I'm torn between Mimeoplasm and Lazav. Most Lazav lists I see are just voltron with only discard or all-in on the mill.

Which grixis commander has the best synergy with spell slinging? It doesn't seem like that many are compatible with the archetype

>>50766665
Jeleva breh.

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>>50766665
Vial smasher + ludevic

>>50766735
>Try to do the thing with the cards in that gif
>Cards everywhere
>Every time

>>50766833
>take edh deck
>hard bend each card, firing each and every one across the room
>double-sleeved with love staples laying on the floor, raped.

Who is more fun. Roon or Derevi? Have both and I don't want to decomission my first deck even if it was shitty precon with horrible edits. Also I need a home for the Promo Tamiyo i got at the eldritch moon pre-release and was too stubborn to sell.

>>50758834
Went to dinner. Isperia seems interring, if we are talking supreme judge. Savra is a personal favorite. With her it would be interesting to keep it budget, under the 50 you have

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So Bloom Tender has been going up and up lately, any chance this will settle back down as we move away from the C16 drop?

Similar note: I know Leyline of the Void has been going up a lot of late due to some Modern stuff, anyone keen on that and same question as before(?).

Just market volatility? Buy now? Wait for a drop?

Pic unrelated, just peniswagon passing through...

>>50766862
Well, I just practice a little with piles of random cards I have leftover from doing drafts and shit.

>>50766912
>derevi
>fun

whew lads.

>>50767120
Derevi Bird tribal is the bees knees

>>50766732
Jeleva is for Storm. Gonti's text kind of steered me away from Jeleva entirely.
>>50766735
Theres an idea. Mana will be a fucking issue though but I like being able to cantrip per turn.

>>50767120
You could be helpful instead of memeing. I know she is can be pretty busted but the only stax piece i have is Stoic angel.

I guess I'm asking if I should make a shitty Derevi Tap Stuff/Knockoff Edric or do the Roon thing? Which is more fun. I'm also trying to avoid any pillow-fort durdle. I've got 2.5 decks that already do that.

>>50767129

I want to believe there is someone out there actually running Derevi as Brid Tribal and doing it in a fun way (Dovescape, anyone?) But I haven't seen it and I will automatically assume any Derevi is going to be a That Guy Brand (TM) Derevi Prison Stax.

>>50767203

If you really, truly, honestly want to build a non-prison Derevi. It could be fun as Edric + access to white. Just avoid the temptation to put tapdown shenanigans in.

>>50767224
I've had the deck for years. It was my first commander deck ever. I got her because the commander tax seemed scary. Now I've got 3 years of play under my belt and no clue what to do with the deck.

>>50767295

>Ishai, Ojutai Dragpnspeaker
>Dovescape
>Edric staples (Coastal Piracy, Bident, Beastmaster Ascension, etc)
>All the stuff here https://edhrec.com/tribes/birds

Just run it as Edric with white goodstuff. No Winter Orbs, no Tangle Wire, no Stasis, etc. Use the untap/tap triggers for more mana and/or to open people to attack by another player (political favors), NOT to permanently lock down their mana.

>>50765987
Who are you quoting?

>>50766986
Bloom tender will probably only get reprinted by chance in a Conspiracy set if you are lucky.

Bloom tender is supposed to appear in sets with lots of hybrid mana cards. Which are Ravnica and Shadowmoor.

We won't see it in another Return set because it's "too powerful" for standard.

WotC never wants to touch Lorwyn or Shadowmoor again.

Save your money. Bloom Tender Is only good once you reach WUBRG, but at that point you probably already have all the mana fixing you need to reach that point. And it is a fragile as fuck creature.

Thinking of building my first sultai deck (Sidisi, Brood Tyrant) and was wondering what sort of stuff I should put in. Was probably going to go zombie tribal with recursion. Any suggestions for some stuff that is must-haves?

>>50762049
What if I genuinely Saskia? Boros, Golgari, Mardu and Naya are my favorite color combinations.

>>50767617
Sol Ring, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Demonic Tutor, Urborg, Cabal Coffers, Gary.