MTG Modern General

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posting in epic bread

Upboat :3

Good Anti-tron cards when?
>>50750342
I'm sure there's a better version of this picture

>Nahiri 13$ on ebay
fucking rip

Anyone here play Bird Brains?

>>50750409
Leonin Arbiter on two into Blood Moon on three.

>>50750793
That doesn't really stop tron. Just mildly inconveniences them as they are casting ancient stirrings off of eggs to hard cast Karn which, because you haven't played any real threats by turn 3 yet, will end up butt fucking you. And that's if they don't draw nature's claim

ded format

>>50751739
Ded thred. Made too soon after the last ones slow death. Bust at least the OP wasn't shit

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Modern a competitive format? At best these days it's casual competitive. Try legacy the real competitive format.

>>50752625
The namefag circle jerk? No thanks

>>50752625
Legacy is fun, but I don't like those moments where "Well didn't have T1 FoW against [x unfair deck], so I lose".

I think its clear the only way to save modern is to unban Deathrite Shaman.

>>50750203
>We expect you to already know how to play.
Speak for yourself. I expect nothing, and am always satisfied.

>>50753758
Nah, if we wanted to save modern and while also making jund the best deck we'd just ban tron.

>>50753922
>save modern
You mean 'switch to Frontier'?

>>50752872
I actually kinda like the namefagging in the Legacy thread

Is the reason MTG players have so much trouble with card sleeves breaking because they mash shuffle their cards? What is the point of spending money on premium card sleeves just to go and mash shuffle your cards? I don't see how you would have problems with sleeves like fantasy flight sleeves breaking if you are doing a shuffle like over hand shuffling that doesn't smash the sides of your cards like mash shuffling does.

how do i take naya zoo into the more competitive scene.
i've got to deal with lantern control, robots, various other tier 1-2 decks.

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Lol, this just happened to me. I drew out and lost actually :D

>>50754806
just buy your fucking anime sleeves you autist, you came into the thread asking for what sleeves to buy, people told you dragonshields are the best. Noone's stopping you from buying whatever you want

>>50754873
Zoo is just a decent aggro deck so you'll always do fine, what's your list?

>>50752972
Modern has those moments just as well, f not more, considering there's no brainstorm to sculpt your hand

>I didn't have the removal versus infect
>I didn't have gravehate versus dredge
>he had the turn 3 Karn

>>50755081
>your fucking anime sleeves you autist
What the fuck are you going on about you sperg?

>>50755081
>he mash shuffles his cards
Look at the retard.

>>50755081
i bought an infect deck and dude sent it to me in what i think is kmc sleeves so i tried to re sleeve the deck in dragon shields but the cards dont fit nice double sleeved so i had to put the old sleeves back on , what do>?

>>50756534
Learn how to double sleeve

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>>50754632
Go fuck yourself

yeah we should just burn this thread and start again tomorrow

>>50754806
>over hand shuffling
Good luck with your DQ

Bumpfrom the grave

Can jund reasonably beat any deck that plays counter spells? I feel like every time I sit down across from some blue control meme deck I am at such a disadvantage

How are the modern goblin decks? I really like the super aggro decks. I love Zoo but the meta is SUPER shit for it.

>>50761107
Jund beats Delver and Twin, when that was around, extremely easy. You're just playing it wrong.

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I'm still salty about only being able to hit wheel of sun and moon for like 3 months before dredge made RIP mandatory
Any other spicy tech for bogles?

ban inkmoth pls

>>50761143
Since the printing of bedlam reveler, rug delver laughs at jund

>>50761524
Since the printing of Thoughtseize, black decks have tended to laugh at just about everything else.

>>50761524
That's still a very easy match up for Jund.

>>50750203
Holy fuck, more art like OP's?

>>50750793
Then you get bent over like a bitch by every other deck.

>>50761568
>gets fucked by discard baby

>>50761580
I'm sure you play this matchup all the time and would know

has anyone here tried playing Magic with friends via Skype/video call?

does it work?

>>50761655
Rekt

>>50761655
Thoughtseize is widely considered the most powerful black spell ever printed. Do you even understand why?

>>50761894
I understand why but it's not oppressive or game ruining. Maybe play better decks if losing one card from your opener blows you out

>>50761989
Losing one card, losing your curve, losing the best card against your opponent, and losing your hidden information.

>>50761894
most powerful for modern

>>50762009
Oh no. Go play frontier

>>50762037
No.

>two Spellskite away from my Eldrazi Tron

Wish me luck guys, money isn't hard to come by.

>>50762079
What does that even mean? That I should play one miserable format instead of another miserable format?

>>50762641
It means to play frontier so we don't have to associate with someone who can't handle TS

>>50762692
Can't handle? You think I scoop to it? I literally just said that it's a powerful card, which it factually is.

>>50761655
I've played against RUG delver once with Jund. The other guy didn't read the part where he had to discard his hand on Bedlam Reveller.

>>50762972
Lmao what a nerd

>>50762754
I'm sorry then. These threads are usually filled to the brim with people begging for bans on the discard spells

>>50762527

>Eldrazi
>3-5 cost, allowing temple+dork to get them to playable cost t2, high card value but less than tron

>Tron
>T3, starts getting more individual card value than eldrazi by t3 dropping hard to answer threats

What's the difference other than cutting normal Tron wincons for eldrazi, some land for temple, and making the deck worse?

>>50761246
>Any other spicy tech for bogles

A noose

>>50752972
>Legacy is fun, but I don't like those moments where "Well didn't have T1 FoW against [x unfair deck], so I lose".

Literally never played legacy, but it's okay, keep pretending like you know anything :^)

>>50761742
It works, but it's tough and can get annoying with having to look up cards or show opponents your hand. I'd recommend Cockatrice/XMage/MTGO for play, and then just having skype on the side to talk.

>>50763097
>Literally never played legacy, but it's okay, keep pretending like you know anything :^)
Not even him but cmon dude. I just played a match against goblins and he died with one mountain out. I was on ANT

Granted, goblins are ass, but still, it happens

>>50763086
Chalice and nut dropping 2 reality smashers in a turn

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Would it be safe to print this into modern?

>>50763257

Fun fact, 1 wurmcoil > 2 reality smashers

>>50763325
Fun fact, you can't cast Wurmcoil as easily as you can cast Eldrazi.

>>50763298
>tutor anything you're playing 4 of
>at Instant speed
>for 3 mana
>in Creatures: the Tappening
not happening

>>50763325
Not if your opponent has path

>>50763355

I meant in the situation where a wurmcoil is against 2 reality smashers, wurmcoil wins

>>50763336

You can if you have tron, which if you're playing a Tron deck you will be hunting for for the first few turns and have a weaker payoff than ordinary Tron wincons

I know this is modern general, which I play, but I had pauper questions.

My friends want me to get into it and I have enough stuff laying around I probably could. How does grixis delver or any other 3 color deck work without fetches or shocks?

>>50763423
You're right, but most decks aren't going to let you assemble it the way you want. Endbringer and Ulamog win against Wurmcoil

>unban eye of ugin
>Ban Eldrazi temple

Yes/no?

>>50763498
Eye is miles better than Temple, no.

>>50763465
They don't really. People play monoblue delver though

>>50763498
Nah, Tron and eldrazi decks are already T1

>>50763588
2 color?
Ub or Ur control/tempo whatever seems fun, but I don't want to get tied into a linear aggro plan like Izzet Blitz. If I wanted linear aggro I'd play more modern.

>>50763664
Fuck off

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>>50761894
>Thoughtseize is widely considered the most powerful black spell ever printed.
No.

>>50761616
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1922198

>>50763298
As written, no. It would need to be 3 different cards.

>>50763987
That's not Contract from Below

>>50764024
I'm not dedicated enough to make a gigantic guide to black spells more powerful than Thoughtseize, I figured just posting one of them would prove the point.

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>>50763154
>Not even him but cmon dude. I just played a match against goblins and he died with one mountain out. I was on ANT
>Granted, goblins are ass, but still, it happens

Yeah, Goblins are weak, and T1 kills in general are just really rare. Not saying it doesn't happen, but to imply that it's common is doing a disservice to the format. The current top decks of the format are all non-T1 kill decks.

Anyway, we'll save that for another thread

>>50763987
I'd argue Yawgmoth's Will is even better than Tutor

>>50761894
>Thoughtseize the most powerful black spell.
Thoughtseize isn't even the most powerful discard spell. Hymn? Mind Twist?

Yawgmoth's Will is easily the best black card ever.

>>50764078
That art is savage

>>50763465

I have played against UBr delver in modern, though it played more like a control deck and less like your typical tempo-oriented delver deck (like mono blue delver pauper plays). Red for bolt and terminate, blue and black for counters, removal, and card draw. it primarily delver, angler, and maybe a couple of mulldrifters as creatures

>>50763498

but why? No reason to ban temple - eldrazi decks are nowhere close to being too strong.

Has anyone ever tried other fuse cards like Far//Away or Breaking//Entering in a Brain in the Jar deck? It seems like the deck just wins off flying 1/1s but Far//Away seems like it could be really good

>>50765588
>B&E

Y'all laughed at my Grisselbrian list, told me it was no better than Grishoalbrand, but it's okay I forgive.

Feel free to look at this and laugh at me. Or give comments/suggestions. I don't know.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/29-05-14-ub-lobotomy/

>>50766218
just fucking stop already
jesus fucking christ

>>50761655
I play rug delver on the reg. Bedlam reveller isn't even in my 75, or anyone else that plays rug delver I know that's respectable. Huntmaster of the fells is really good against Jund though.

>>50763465
Learn to play a real format.

>>50766218
Overall, decent/10. Don't listen to shitheads telling you to fuck off.

There was a mill list that got popular of MTGO a little while back, and this echos it in some ways I like.

Some suggestions if I may; practice a shit ton. Look at similar decklists, bounce ideas off, and again just grind out the hours in the deck and you should get an idea of how to tune/improve it.

Imho crab is the best card in mill and a playset is excellent. I like the superfluous amount of Extirpate, but then again I play combo mostly so you'll have to determine what the proper number is.
Rune Snag over Manaleak I would only try if I had selfmill tech (mesmeric orb + manic scribe package) otherwise Manaleak seems better. Broken Ambitions could be a nice spicy counterspell.
Mill will get there, it's taken a bit of a backseat as of late due to WotC prioritizing limited, but cards like Manic Scribe give me a tiny glimmer of hope that Wizards didn't forget about mill.

>>50766563
>no singleton Arlin as m'lady huntmaster
It's like you don't want every card type available for your goyfs.

>>50766563
Sounds like you and your pals need to catch the fuck up on sideboard tech

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>>50750203
Wizards should just make a non-standard, modern add on set that is esentially modern masters 2.5. it's to allow them to make some older cards that are too strong for standard but not for modern to be legal like Counterspell, as well as print many format staples in a single set. They could also use the space to print "fixed" versions of cards they consider too good for the format. For example, a sorcery speed brainstorm or preordain. Or a stoneforge mystic that can't cheese into play equipment for such a low cost.

>>50766741
>sorcery speed preordain

>>50766741
Or a FoW that refunds the mana of the countered spell. So it stops combo decks cold, but doesn't cause a tempo swing.

>>50766796
Wizards won't give legacy FoW 5-8

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You spergs have any ideas on wether rancor is worth playing in UG infect? I use canopy cover as some tech, what do you think?

>>50766837
It's an okay 1 of.

>>50766651
I'm already being a tryhard with tarfire.
>>50766660
It's shit. It's proven shit at this point by people a lot better than you.

So new Tezzeret isn't good enough for Modern right

>>50767050
Not even close

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>[+1]: Create a colorless artifact token named Etherium Stone which has T: Sacrifice this and add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

>[-2]: Target creature get +X/-X until end of turn where X is the number of artifacts you control.

>[-7]: You get an emblem with "At the beginning of your combat phase, target artifact you control becomes a 5/5 artifact creature."

Wish the egg cantripped. I like the bit of synergy between abilities but damn he's weak
2/5 EDH-tier

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>>50767024
Hot new meme incoming from your premiere memester

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blue-scepter

Very open to optimization as it's basically a combo package in rocks.dec

I wish Reshape was an instant.
lotusbloom might b cool but is clunky, muddle might be worthy of a sb slot. Inventors Fair is mvp

Deck is decent, give it a look if you like to tinker with combo.

>>50767024
Nice source on that breh

>>50767206
They could have made the -7 not garbage. That's such a low power ult.

>>50767558
>4 mana, starts at 6
>next turn 7
It's no Nahiri but it's an emblem wincon

>>50764204
either will or bargin

or doomsday :^)

>>50767558
>>50767604

kiora is better than this in almost every way, and kiora never saw play. tezzy will be bargin bin garbage by release.

>>50767669
I agree. I can't really see a deck for him as the card is so slow. There will need to be a lot of high control value artifacts in the next set or two for him to matter.

>>50767706
someone will probably make an investigate deck with tezzeret turning clues into creatures, and it will fail miserably because all the blue investigate cards suck

>5 mana counterspell with 3 clues ayyy

thanks wotc

>>50752972
>tfw playing the unfair deck and they always have the force so you lose

>>50767024
>tarfire
if you're not running both tarfire and seal of fire then you can kindly get on my level

>>50767820
Seal of fire doesn't flip delver and even then curiosity is better

>>50767820
>not running bitterblossom and collective brutality for max goyf optimization

>>50767669
You mean Kiora "please bolt my face" Crashing Wave? She's actually good, except she dies so easily unlike this 6 loyalty goon. Tezz seems good in certain decks, he does different stuff than Agent of Bolas so he might see play, who knows.

>>50768254
He cost too much and does too little to see play. His ult, which you should rarely judge a PW by, isn't that good. i still want one for edh

>>50768276
He's only 4 mana. His minus is a kill spell. That's a recipe for a decent 4cmc walker. His ult is weird but it's very fast and potentially game winning. He's tanky and his plus could be decent in decks that care about artifacts (not to mention it's a means to an ult like Nahiri's loot)

I'm not saying he's insane but that he's not weak.

>>50765588
>>50765726
New tech coming in the form of Yahenni's Expertise.

>>50765588
also should I throw in the gifts ungiven package as well or do I just focus more on buffing the Beck//Call and Lingering Souls tokens instead

I might be a bit slow but is death shadows good to trade now?

>>50768033
we can miss every hundredth delver flip to attain the possibility of 6/7 goyf.
curiosity doesn't even feed goyf if you're getting your value out of it whereas seal actually can gain tempo and pumps goyf when you use it

>>50768228 gets it

>>50768663
Why would you care about 1 power on goyf if you're getting value off curiosity? you'll win through card advantage

>>50768725
That's not the point anob

>>50754964
this is stupid
git gud

>>50761107
depends what you are playing. counterspells give that impression, but most of the time you are just trading tempo. and most of them are pretty bad in modern

>>50767206
is that literally the weakest planeswalker ult ever printed? holy shit. you get a 5/5 on each combat if you have a permanent of the correct type, wooow

I just want StP and counterspell to be reprinted

>>50770256
Flametongue Kabu and Plague spitter too.

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Would this work with Eternal Witness?

If yes I can already see decks that will overflow with extreme value. Between that, Ancestral Vision, Liliana, etc I can already see something extremely disgusting coming along.

>>50770891
Not sure what you mean by work but everything will die, e wit comes into play, expertise resolves and goes to gy. Card doesn't seem that nuts considering it's a 4 mana card in the wrong format for that. Might be in some sideboards but I don't expect much

>>50770929
By " work " I was assuming " can I play Eternal Witness and bring the expertise back ". Just another one of these stack questions.

And to be honest I really think that this card can make grixis/jund a bit over the top. Considering that what makes Liliana weak is that she sometimes struggles to protect herself, card is bonkers. Allowing to cast Ancestral Visions for free is also bonkers for literally any control deck out there.

>>50770956
Yes, you do all the things on the card in the order it says to do them, so all creatures getting -3/-3 happens and then you cast Eternal witness. Even if it did die to the spell, you would still get the etb trigger

I don't want to make a new thread for this so I'll jjust ask here, why did people hate extended? Why was it so bad?

>>50770982
It was just Standard All-Stars for a little longer. Another rotating format that no one really bought into, but just let people play their standard decks for a few more years.

>>50770968
I think you still didn't get the question.

I cast Expertise. On the cast trigger, I decide to cast Eternal Witness. Can I bring back the expertise in my hand or is the spell still not resolved by the time Eternal Witness has ETB trigger?

>>50770982
They chopped off a good portion of the blocks that made up extended and turned it into Super Standard which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

>>50771032
Yes, how is this so hard to understand? You can't resolve anything while something else is resolving so the progression looks like this

>Cast Yahenni's Expertise
>Yahenni's Expertise Resolves, causing all creatures get -3/-3 and then allowing you to cast Eternal witness
>Yahenni's Expertise is put into your graveyard because it is finished resolving
>Eternal Witness goes on the stack
>Eternal witness Resolves
>Eternal Witness trigger, targeting Yahenni's Expertise, goes on the stack

It's the same shit as Torrential Gearhulk, you are allowed to cast the spell using the ability so once the ability resolves the spell goes on the stack

>>50768378
his minus is a kill spell - if you already have a board presence of worthless artificats.

>>50771032
Yes, Witness doesn't trigger until Expertise is finished resolving and in the graveyard.

>>50771076
>"If you cast the card, you do so as part of the resolution of Torrential Gearhulk’s triggered ability. You can’t wait to cast it later in the turn. Timing restrictions (such as “Cast [this card] only during combat”) still apply."

so you are wrong - you would cast the 3cmc card during the resolution of Yahenni's Expertise. in theory, the ETB trigger should be put onto the stack after both the spell you select and Yahenni's finish resolving, so the other person could get Yahenni's back with Witness.

>>50771117
How am I wrong? What you said is exactly what I said

>>50771132
you said
>You can't resolve anything while something else is resolving

except you resolve the instant spell during the resolution of torrential gearhulk's trigger. and (most likely) you would resolve the 3cmc card during the resolution of yahenni's expertise.

>>50771174
No you fucking don't, the spell goes on the stack and can be responded to. Gearhulk's ability simply lets you cast it out of your graveyard

>>50771189
learn to read you stupid fucking child. i quoted the exact rules text on the card. you've been proven wrong by your own example, you retarded piece of shit.

if you don't know how to play this game and don't want to learn, then go back to hearthstone. we don't want you.

>>50771076
>>50771094
Okay thanks.

It's also a shame that Second Sunrise is banned. You could pull of nasty storm comboes with the " free mana guys ". Play a bunch of those, Expertise into second sunrise and bam, you gained a shit ton of mana.

Damn it, my inner johnny is sad.

>>50771241
>>50771189
You're both shitters. Gtfo

>>50771241
/tg/ magic player's in a nutshell.
Level 1 judge here, you're wrong.

>>50771263
Level 2 judge here, he's right. you and the other guy don't know shit.

>>50771289
Level 3 judge here, you're wrong

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>>50752625
>dead format
>real format

>>50771289
Level 3 judge here. Everybody is wrong. And gtfo shitposter

>>50771117
Yes, you cast gearhulks spell, you don't resolve it. Casting and resolving are two separate things.

>>50771307
Level 4 judge here. Wrong

>>50771343
Level 5 judge here, you're wrong

>>50771076
>You can't resolve anything while something else is resolving
Sub games :^)

>>50771361
>>50771343
Rules manager here. /tg/ is truly bad at magic

>>50771375
Shahrazad's resolution creates the subgame so technically by the time the subgame begins, Shahrazad has finished resolving

What would t1 be with no ban list?

What would t1 be if extra products were legal (Commander prints and stuff, but not legacy reprints)

>>50771434
Whatever the most consistent turn 1 combo deck turns out to be.

>>50771434
Eldrazi and dredge would be tier 0. Storm, jund, affinity, dark depths and delver

Extremely uninteractive decks. Even more so

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>>50770891
This screams " Waste Not " with this card.

>>50771516
Why not just AV? Your hand isnt gonna be empty when you cast the card

>>50771553
I don't think you get the combo idea in mind. I said " Waste Not " because if you discard cards from your opponent's hand, it refills you mana, draws you cards or give you zombie tokens. So the idea is cheat it out with Expertise, make your opponent discard his whole hand, replenishing your mana and you can keep casting spells until you have a wincon like Grapeshot or Empty the warrens.

Now THAT would be a fun deck to play.

>>50771574
Sure

Every win with grixis is hard work. No free wins, no auto win MU's. I got to work for every victory.

>>50771434
Hypergenesis, Affinity, and Infect would probably be top tier.

>>50772471
>What people who play bad decks tell themselves.
If winning is difficult, you're playing a bad deck.

>>50772935
>grixis delver
>bad deck
?

>>50771480
>jund
>delver
nah

I've been out of the game since Shadows Over Innistrad's release. Are there less people playing now or something? I've noticed the price of some cards, especially Affinity staples dropping quite a bit. It seemed to me like prices were on a permanent increase trend just a few months ago. My LGS also just went out of business due to lack of attendance at events and no sales. They had about 75-85 people there on BFZ pre-release so this boggles my mind.

>>50773208
You're just bad if you think delver wouldn't be a deck with, cruise, ponder, preordain and dtt

>>50773471
>You're just bad if you think Delver wouldn't be a deck with [Insert OP banned cards]

>>50773495
That was the entire point of the discussion. Jesus, I'm surrounded by morons here.

>>50773549
I'm going to be honest, I came into the thread and just read the bottom couple of comments.
To add to the discussion of No Banned List modern (this was pretty popular 8-9 months ago), Elves, Death and Taxes, Affinity, Storm, Infect, and Hypergenesis are usually the best when people try to actually play this as a format. Infect might be tier 2 because it's a bit fragile and doesn't have 100% consistency.

>>50764204
>Hymn? Mind Twist?
>not Cabal Therapy after Gitaxian Probe

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Could Afinite abuse this somehow? I know "opponent's choice" spells are a no-no, but seems like there might be a deck here with either a huge ravager or your opponent diving into Galvanic Blast range. May be too build around for a functional affinity deck.

>>50774999
No idea how autocorrect decided "Afinite" was an acceptable replacement for Affinity.

>>50774999
Affinity doesn't want that.

>>50775239
I'm not directly talking about the "turn shit sideways" affinity, but a new deck built off the Affinity mechanic. Recycling a Frogmite to either make a huge ravager or deal damage to an opponent.

>>50752972
That... doesn't really happen.
A few decks can go all in on t-1, but
>it's usually on a god hand, double dark ritual or something crazy like that
>if the opponent can FoW, it's game over, while by waiting a turn or 2 the deck could fight against disruption or recover after it
even when it's possible, it's a bad choice, unless it's g1 and you think you're playing against a non-blue deck.

Those moments are a thing in Vintage, not Legacy.

>>50775961
oh so you're wondering if this junk rare from WotC's latest worthless standard set is good enough to rebuild modern affinity around?

it absolutely is, buy 1000 copies before the price spikes.

>>50775961
please stop

>>50776316
Or a new Artifact based deck, but okay.
>>50776495
It's better convo than nothing.

>>50767206
he fucking sucks in edh too

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why is the modern general always shit

>>50777058
cause we're either complaining here or complaining at our LGS

>new Tezzeret probably isn't strong enough to see modern play
>Only card to be mildly excited about from Aether Revolt is Yaheeni's free Liliana/AV/Lingering Souls/Grim Flayer

Is lantern control just a meme or does it actually have staying power? The game plan seems so fucking fragile.

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Jund players, thoughts on Bitterblossom?

>2 more card types for Jund that are typically hard to get
>With this, enables Goyfs and Flayers easily
>Just overall value if left to its own devices.

>>50780552
Really only viable due to silly broken cards, Stirrings and Bridge in particular.

>Cantrip 5 cards deep is fine, but Preordain is banned? kek
>bridge was a mistake

>>50777058
cause we can't decide the difference between combo and aggro

>>50777058
shit format gets a shit thread

>>50782199
Everyone knows Tron is aggro

>>50782298
>implying tron is control

>>50782397
its combo u ratrd

>>50782118
Not a good top deck but it works

>>50767558
Put this baby in any multi color artifact deck and here turns you vehicles into permanent creatures. Still pretty dirty shit.

How is zoo currently, I've been away for a bit.

Also is this death shadows stuff really good?

Pardon the meme, but any thoughts on Esper Midrange?

>IoK, Thoughseize, Path, Spell Snare for early game tempo
>Thought Scour with Gurmags and Tasigurs as early-mid game bodies with Lingering Souls backup
>Emergency reset button in U/W board clears if all goes wrong
>Late game dominance with Colonnades and Cryptics
>Great sideboard options
>Snapcaster is good

The only real glaring issue I see is that the deck lacks a real closer other than dropping a big Delve creature and then protecting it, thoughts?

>>50783588
Test it out online and tell us

>>50783588
if you want midrange rather than control then tar pit and shambling vents are probably better than colonnade
as for finishers, you have some decent planeswalkers and i bet geist of st traft can clock pretty good with cryptic and path support

>>50780552
it's fragile in the sense that the pilot has very small margins of error but unless they draw their cards in the wrong order or you draw your artifact hate in the small window between the early discard and the lock, it's pretty hard to beat