/swg/: Yavin Council Edition

>>50746811

Rate my Armada list, /swg/.

http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=58100&key=df7288efc2cf1854f5d2393260587ee9

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>Middle management loser who gets jerked around by his bosses constantly
>Gets all his work stolen by a superior and receives zero credit
>Bullies his underlings in an effort to compensate
>Has never won a fight to save his life, and constantly gets shot when he tries
>Hates normies with a passion
>Wears ridiculous costumes to get attention

He was more of a clown than a villain, but he was still pretty fun to watch.

>>50746892
>laughing Poggle

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>>50746892
Is Krennic /ourguy/?

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SEASON'S GREETINGS

>>50746942
SEASON'S DARK GREETINGS, SURELY.

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>>50746912
This is MY achievement, NOT YOURS!
MOFFS LEAVE

>>50744316
Well, there's >>50744497, >>50744583 and >>50744697 to consider. There's also the possibility that from Tarkin's point-of-view, destroying the archives is a *feature*, not a bug. If he takes out the blueprints for all other Imperial superweapon projects, including the possibility of another Death Star, *his* Death Star is the *only* superweapon the Empire has or will have for years. His position as Palpatine's top dog would be unassailable for years to come.

>>50746912
Krennic is like a neckbeard who grew up to be a space nazi.

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>>50746956
Doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well. Have a half-assed Christmas Mofference.

>>50747118
>Christmas decorations
>Not changing the blaster earrings

>>50747118
That doesn't look like Whaladon. I demand my Whaladon meat, now!

>>50747041

so it's a yes, then

>>50746994

I can't imagine Palpatine would be that happy though.

>>50746994
I feel like there's probably backups of that data on other worlds, at least for stuff that isn't new and still ultra top secret like the death star

>>50746892
I liked Krennic. In addition to all of that he always tried to be affable, but just could not manage it. Does he get a single "cool" line in the whole movie?

Is the TIE Striker good or fun? Not sure whether I want to buy one

>>50747269
A shame that the "The power we are dealing with is IMMEASURABLE" line from the trailers got cut.

>>50747269

I think they cut the POWER line from the trailers. Unfortunately; it was great.

I thought his reaction and 'condolences' when Galen tried to bullshit that his wife was dead was deliciously smarmy.

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>>50747168
Done.

>>50747176
I lack both the tools and willpower to cut a plate of whale meat out of existing photos and throw it into Paint.

>>50747305
>>50747290

I see you and I are of a kind.

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>>50746942
No u

Saw Rogue One today, shit was pretty cash.

How come nobody is talking about the Juggernaut prison transport truck?


>>50747330
Excellent

>Rogue One rekindles my long-dormant love of Star Wars
>pop open PDFs for FFG games downloaded ages ago
>absolutely loathe the system
>just want to use Fate Core instead

h-help

>>50747385
I liked it, showed the empire still used them in background roles.

>>50747280
"Pure Sabacc" seems like a right bastard to go up against. you can count on at least the first 2, maybe 3 attacks are going to be boosted, so that's 4-5 dice depending on range for 2-3 rounds.

28 pts for "Pure Sabacc" w/ VI, Adaptive Ailerons & Target Computer is a good bargain for a good early game glass cannon. Add in pimped out Soontir Fel and 41 points of filler to taste and you got a nasty list

>>50747390
>loathe the system
wat

>>50747461

Too crunchy!

>>50747426
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!239:27:48:5:;28:18:5:1:M.15;52:19,126,58,14,-1,41:-1:25:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

This seems fun

>>50747472
Try playing it before you diss it.

>>50747461
It's not very crunchy, just the book layout is so bad it seems worse than it is.

>>50747495
You're throwing points at stuff you will never use in that list. Try this instead if you want to toss in a Bomber .
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!239:27:48:5:;28:18:5:1:M.15;52:19,126,58,14,-1,41:-1:25:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

>>50747563
Damn wrong link. Supposed to be this.
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!239:27:48:5:;28:18:5:1:M.15;190:140,126,104,14,-1,-1:-1:25:&sn=StIntB

>>50747390
it's not that bad.

ground and adventure stuff it's quite good if a little abstract, but all that is houseruleable easily.
space combat has always been a bugbear for me with the system, I love the customisable elements of ships and the variety available, but wish the combat was a bit, well, more fun.
seems weird that how good a pilot you are and how nimble your ship is doesn't have much of an impact on how hard you are to hit.

if I could recieve anything from ffg on my wishlist, it'd be a revamped space combat system.

Does anybody have any pdfs of the new reference books? I have all the increadible cross-sections, but I'm jonesing for the visual guides for Rebels and Rogue 1.

Also, I wish we got an increadible crossections about the Clone wars and rebel stuff.

>>50747577
>>50747563
Yeah, I just had a few points left over

>>50747623
I'm going to try this one when i get a Striker.
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!28:18:5:5:M.15;239:27:48:5:;78:27,36,47:-1:9:&sn=Intercept%2C%20Strike%2C%20Cloak%2C%20Rinse%20%26%20Repeat

>>50747646
One thing I've found is I get a lot more use out of Carnor Jax+Targeting Computer than Soontir Fel+Autothrusters, partly because people put less fire into him since he's not Fel, but also because he helps his buddies hit hard too. Might pair better with the Striker.

>>50739542
I like that.
I like that a lot.

>>50741169
You're most welcome anon.

>>50747689
I mean it sorta works, there's also the chance that with your safeties disabled you smash far deeper into the gravity well than any ship can survive.

>>50747245
where would you place the back ups? I think this is where the line of back up stops, the most heavily secured place to keep all the most important things

unless there is an infinite chain of archives each more heavily defended than the last

>>50747750

Something on Coruscant maybe?

>>50747750
It's probably not the ONLY one, just one of the least defended.

>>50747770
or the only one where they keep the death star plans, keeping it in more than one place might make it easier to steal

>>50747750
I'd assume that there's plans for the Death Star on the Death Star itself, just for the sake of maintenance people. Also, duplicates of the facility seen in Rogue One.

>>50746882
Pretty solid, Redundant Shields is strictly inferior to ECM though so I'd swap that, and with BCC I'd switch Keyan for Ten, improves your squad against fighters too.

>>50747390
You should totally give it a try. It's a good mix of more story-focused gameplay while still having interesting crunch. And the dice are really cool even if they seem like a turnoff at first. Then if you don't like it nothing's stopping you from playing fate

>>50747596
Check /co

>>50747689
My favorite part of this new theory is that not only is Han a cool scoundrel but also a huge math nerd. Cheers anon

been thinking of what to do with an Upsilon shuttle when i get one.

Considering using its coordinate action and a systems officer to turn functinally give soontir 5 actions a turn with no stress.
worth it over a palpshuttle?

>>50747924
one does not become a captain of a cargo ship without being good at math, luke has R2-D2 and usually just goes wherever the alliance needs him
Han has to do everything manually, and has to cant rely on pre-made calculations, since as a smuggle he will often be the first person to try the new route, and therefore have to be the first to plot a course through it

>>50748005
On the one hand, the Falcon has multiple droid brains spliced into its systems and probably a pimped out navicom to run most of the calculations for him. On the other hand, Han did have a promising career as an Imperial officer ahead of him before he met Chewie, and astrogation was probably part of the curriculum.

>>50748005
>>50748075
He does have the computers but I don't think they are so reliable, it's probably split.

I know the aggressor was stated, but how would you stat Zahns personal one? Unless it's already there and i missed it.

>>50748250
Wait the Aggressor was statted? The giant gun?
It's Zann, he's a tribute name to Zahn.

>>50748005
>>50748075
>>50748196

Every time chewie roars as they're about to make the jump?
That's wookie for "NEEEEERD!"
...but han never tells anyone.
no one except his secret plushy he hides in his bunk, mon mathra the math loving bantha.

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>>50748476
>mon mathra the math loving bantha

>>50748476
>mon mathra the math loving bantha
Yub yub, Commander.

>>50746882
I see you're proxying shara, how would you feel about the new fast launch bays that come on the pelta for your GR-75 instead of expanded hangar bays? you can load your two generic b-wings on her and give someone a punch they weren't expecting.

would nora wexley and jan ors be a good combo?

>>50748912
I'd watch them

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>>50749022
heu

For real though I'm looking forward to trying out super-buffed Poe or Red Ace with a Jyn+Jan U-wing.

Huh, that stupid casyul meme that's going around actually produces some pretty reliable Star Wars names.
>First Name
First three letters of your last name + First two letters of your first name

>Last Name
First two letters of your mother's first name + First three letters of the city of your birth.

>>50749058
the last name bit gets a little weird if the first two letter of both those names are both consunants.
Grcle isn't exactly pronouncable.

>>50749058
>Nro Anbod
if i mod it to N'Ro it kinda works

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Can we have a moment of silence for those guys in the jammed airlock?

I haven't felt visceral despair like that in a long time.

>>50749147
That scene was fucking hardcore. It was the most visceral part of the entire film.

That and the way that our heroes hugged each other as they died. It's hard to be alone at times like that.

>>50749131
chuck that's supposed to be
>Nygro Anbod
Nope. N'Ro sounds way better

>>50749147
>>50749168
Every now and again, reading books with Sith, you hear about them "drinking in the fear," of their foes as they fight, and it's honestly kind of hard to picture.

That scene made it really easy to picture.

>>50749168

R1 had a ridiculous density of epic deaths.

>>50749187
That's what happens when you take a franchise called "Star Wars," and actually make it a War Movie. For once.

>>50749058
Running through the family, ending up with
Brade Pahun
Braja Frale
Braer Jupen

As long as you leave it open to a little modding for shit like >>50749131 becoming N'Ro and tossing in a vowel or the like for poor bastards from Cleveland like >>50749119 it think it'd work grand. At the very least, one of the best quick and dirty ones I've seen.

>>50749058
Kvijo Rocan

eh alright I guess

>>50749058
Curch Elbat. I don't like it.

>>50749058
>Smiti Daokl
Not too bad. Oddly Star Wars-y.

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>>50749058
>Ryaja Elmanama
Sounds a bit more like something from the Arab Revolt campaign but it could do.

>>50749147
Yeah man, Star Wars got fucking real for a minute. I really appreciated that the first part of the film had quite a lot of humor in it, but as the plot got more serous so did the tone, and humor no longer had it's place.

The Force is with me. I am one with the Force.

>>50749187
RIP plucky brit stiff upper lip Blue Leader, I was hoping we'd get more out of this guy.

>>50749058
Well i do need some NPC names for my EotE game. Gonna run a few friends names through this.
>Mesjo Anlul
>Östli Mabod
>Wenan Mabod
>Hjehe Mobod
>Rydar Pihud

Eh some good some bad.

>>50749275
was it just me or was Blue Squadron a unit that rotated its support craft? It was almost certainly them on the research facility raid with the Y-wings, and they had a U-wing that I assume they don't regularly run with during Scarif. Also was it just me or when Blue Leader gets shot down does someone yell over the radio "general"?

>>50749187
>>50749203
R1 really brought the Rebels and Imperials into stark relief in a way only a movie where the Rebels pay a heavy on-screen cost for the barest sliver of victory could.

As the Skarif battle gradually went sour - even before the DS and Devastator made their grand entrances - I couldn't get the word "hammerblow" out of my head. Who cares if stormtroopers and TIEs go down like mooks when you have thousands more waiting to swarm in?

>>50749334
He's called general several times, I assume he's the head of overall starfighter operations. General...Merrick? Merrit? It had an M

>>50749275
>Elmanama
>2+3 letters
Um, what?

>>50749287
Ostli and Wenan Mabod, the Mad Mabod Twins; Old Mesjo Anlul, the Force Sensitive face Mesjo Anlul; and their psychotic droid pilot Ride-R.

>>50749334
I hate to hate the U-Wing, if only because it is an impostor in the spot of the LAAT/i.

>>50749058
>greca mator
Doesn't work great for boring anglo names

>>50749334
Something along the lines of "General, behind you!" Considering Lando's promotion, and that "General Syndulla" over the intercom on Yavin and see what is presumably the Ghost during the orbital battle later, I figure the Rebels have several generals leading units while the fleet has only one admiral in command.

>>50749384
>Elmanama
I can't actually read, I just hit letters at random and rely on probability to get the message right.

>>50749147
>>50749168
That bit was hardcore but then the ship launched and i saw his cape blowing in the vacuum and my autism triggered and i began to shake before muttering to my friend
"there's no wind in space"

>>50749287
Rydar Phid may be a better one.

>>50749384
>LAAT/i impostor
Unfortunately, the Rebels are completely out of rockets.

>>50749425
It could have been thrust from the engines, or the cape reacting to energized particles, or Vader force-rippling it for dramatic effect.

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>>50749425
Haven't you heard of engine wash? It wouldn't be the first time it featured in the movie.

>>50749441

It's not like he would have been exposed to vacuum anyways; all the hangers in Star Wars have force fields on them.

>>50749425
Magnetic containment fields.

>>50749405
They use the American system of Air-force Generals for fighter/gunship command.
>>50749384
LAAT/i are either space or atmospheric, they can't run from one to the other.

>>50747305
Agreed on that.

The way he says, "Search the house!" right after pretending to care wasfuckingwonderful

And it was only made better by the crazy garbled encrypted Death Trooper comms.

>>50749147
That scene really hammered home how much of a SCARY MOTHERFUCKER Vader really is

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>>50749425
Vader's a man with style he's gonna be ready for dramatic flair in any situation

>>50749425
Who says he was in vacuum? Hanger bays in this franchise have atmosphere despite giant openings to space due to invisible magnetic shields. The Tantive IV may have been docked in a pressurized atmospheric hangar for any techies or whatever who needed outside

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>>50749147

>>50746811
Is there a mega or torrent of the FFG RPG trove? MediaFire doesn't allow bulk downloads without a paid account.

>>50749519
What the fuck?

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>>50749504
Takes the first opportunity to hamstring the only guy running with a deflected blaster bolt

>>50749528

Vader + PC + multiple Triumphs = Canon Derailed

>>50746811
How lethal is the FFG Star Wars?

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So what did everyone think of the digital insertion of classic actors into the movie?
The Tarkin did start to look off when he was on for extended time, but Red Leader, Gold Leader and Leia looked great, mostly because they weren't on long enough to look bad.

>>50749646
Tarkin was almost flawless, with an occasional flash of Uncanny Valley. Leia was more so, but that's because of the EXTREME LIGHTING of the Tantive IV.

Red and Gold Leader weren't all that bad, but that's because they were mostly archival footage with some tweaking, whereas Leia and Tarkin were effectively done from scratch.

>>50749441
Its now my head cannon that he uses the force to ripple it when there is no wind

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>>50749646
I'm slightly disappointed we didn't get to see Wedge, Porkins in the battle. Or Captain Sideburns who tells Tarkin to evacuate the Death Star.

>>50749646
Maybe it's just me, but I really kinda disliked Robo-Cushing, not for the sake of the effects but bringing back dead actors. Particularly those whose estates are handled by former secretaries. It's the beginning of a really weird period of rights and royalties.

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>>50749706
>Wedge, Porkins

Would've been awesome if they got Dennis Lawson to record new lines for his younger representation - but I figure if they had asked, he probably would've told them to fuck off.

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>>50749682

Vader is a fucking DIVA.

Look at this supermodel-pose shit.

>>50749147
Perfect example of Darth Vader kills 1d6 rebels per round

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>>50749740
Yeah, I can understand that. I noticed they did recast Jan Dodona, but then I think he only got one and a half lines in the movie.
It was nice to see them bring back the Mon Mothma and Bail Organna actors from Episode 3.

>>50749758
Yeah they'd have to toss some mad dosh his way for him to do that. Rogue Squadron stand-alone movie when Disney?

>>50749808
The best we're ever likely to get is a CGI TV series spun off of Rebels.

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>>50749808
When Disney and EA pry Chris Roberts loose from Star Citizen long enough to make X-Wing Commander.

>>50749058
Mahco Susag
I don't sound like a main character. I could be a pilot who dies in the movie but gets a little info box in the visual encyclopedia.

>>50749763
That bit where he shifts his cape and leans back slightly to reveal his choke gesture while throttling Krennic was so anime I chuckled.

>>50749233
My girlfriend got Chaka Dotro, and I think that's the best Star Wars name.

>>50749174
Sounds like a black pornstar bodybuilder.

>>50749058
Thujo Lesan.
Eh. Not too bad.

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>>50749522
Yarh https://mega.nz/#F!blI01Jga!6uL6fLHF2rJFKDN57E14WQ

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>>50749058

Skilo Daliv

I'm going to use that as some random scum bounty target in my next EotE campaign. Some dickhead running a glitterstim crack house, running a gang of star wars dindu's with ACP array blasters and repeaters

I haven't seen R1 yet (going tomorrow) but if the last two or three threads worth of discussion is anything to go by it will blow TFA out of the water like the Death Star and Alderaan.

>TFA premiers
>nothing but salt and bitter tears to be had in the threads for months on end
>R1 premiers
>pretty much unanimous cheer and praise

>>50749914
It truly is a time to be alive. I am willing to put up with the rest of the Sequel Trilogy being shit if it means the Han Solo film is anywhere near as good as R1.

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>>50749758
>Dennis Lawson
>tfw you remember that Wedge is Obi-Wan's uncle

It's like pottery.

>>50749801
Yeah. And the fact that the secretary that now manages his estate is also bound by agreements to not even discuss whatever sort of payment or arrangement that she made to literally sell his soul to Disney just feels... uncomfortable in the sort of way that reminds you that cyberpunk megacorp's ain't too far away.

That Mon Mothma actor still makes me do a fucking double-take to this day. That first time I saw the trailer I thought for sure they had used a CLU-style duplicate.

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>>50749886
How lethal is this game? Does it do the late-level thing of PCs being unstoppable? How are Imperial entities like Stormies portrayed

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>>50749914

TFA had a lot going against it - no one would ever be satisfied.

In comparison, R1 is a test concept "can a star wars spin off movie be good?"

Answer: Yes, yes it can.

>>50749706
I'm actually fairly sure we see Captain Sideburns towards the end of the film.

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>>50749763
I couldn't resist.

>>50749914
Yeah, even as a 501st member, only about half of my wing were planning on going to the midnight release. I even live in a city that had one of those "Only Eight in the World Get An Extra Day in Advance" and they were selling tickets at the door for one of the two showings.

It's nice that the movie wasn't shit, even if it means I can now basically predict the Sequels being shit and the Star Wars Stories hopefully being stellar.

Question for those that have seen the film, does General Madine make an appearance, if all of these other oldies are?

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>>50749941
>Does it do the late-level thing of PCs being unstoppable?

It depends.

Ideally, a party of 4 to 5, should not have more then 1 or 2 dedicated combat characters.
If you have more then that, combat becomes irrelevant, and the game gets boring. Characters should be built to be good at things other then combat, otherwise combat characters are useless outside of combat.

Late game, PC's do get pretty unstoppable, but GMs have plenty of tools to keep it balanced.

Early game, a squad of Stormtroopers with a sergeant can whipe a whole party

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>>50749758
They can just rope in someone with any old scottish accent and its not like anyone would notice the difference.

>he probably would've told them to fuck off.
I have some scots relatives and they're almost all universally miserable, stingy bastards

>>50749941
Its a much more 'street level' kind of game where players get a bit tougher, have more ways to deal with conflict as they get xp.

But at the end of the day they're still 'vulnerable' to being shot, blown up and a mad space wizard with a lightbat will still fuck their shit up, but its not like in say a D20 system when they get to a certain level, some CR's stop working and you have to go find a new monster to bite them. Stormtroopers in enough numbers will quite happily threaten PC's with 1000xp, if they get a lot of good gear, that just means you add a scout walker or something into the mix... or more stormtroopers!

>>50749991
>Ideally, a party of 4 to 5, should not have more then 1 or 2 dedicated combat characters.
I wish to god my group could realize this. Part of the reason I started running an Imperial game was simply because no-one could understand that you can make a character that does something outside of:

>Shoot the gun
>Shoot the bigger gun
>Ride the thing and shoot the biggest gun
>Sneak up and shoot the gun
>VIBROAXE

>>50749941
Early on, a squad of Stormtroopers is basically a walking party wipe.

>>50749914
My only serious complaint is that the early pacing feels a bit off and they mook the Stormtroopers too much.

The only fight where them all dying like they do makes a ton of sense is any time someone opens up on a crowd of them while they're leaving a door (it does happen twice or thrice), and the one scene on Jedha where they're fighting space-Muhjadeen who are fighting amongst a crowd of civilians (that they are dressed as) and that are suicide-grenading their vehicles. It's hard to fight against that.

Also the Donnie Yen space-monk beating up a full squad's-worth of them with a stick is the ultimate form of them being mooked to the extreme.

The only way it gets made up for is that they do, in facy, end up killing all of the Rebels in the end. Even if it took way more bodies than a lot of the EU would imply, with how professional they're supposed to be.

>>50749914
I mean, there's some very real flaws with the movie. Jyn & Cassian fell flat in comparison to the rest of the squad, especially K2, Karate Farmer & Heavy Weapons Guy, the Giacchino's score is not up to his own level of quality, let alone John Williams', and there's NO FUCKING OPENING SCRAWL, but those gripes feel minor in contrast to how much it does right.

It felt like an Expanded Universe movie in all the right ways, because it literally expanded the setting in interesting directions.

>>50750037

My party has this same problem, so I started introducing Closed Campaign Roles

>>50750048
Until the empire invents inertial compensators for helmets there's still a good chance of getting a concussion. Even Travis's interpretation of the insane Clone Commando armor had "Whiplash and Concussions" as its main weakness. They at least make most of the knockouts related to hits to the head.

>>50749542
Funny how that works.

>>50750050
I actually liked the lack of scrawl it really hit home how this wasn't a main series movie. Plus I loved that "A Star Wars Story" was never shown in the actual film because that subtitle fucking sucks. Star Wars is a billion dollar franchise everyone is gonna know what Rogue One is.

>>50750048
Meh. Stormtroopers are the ultimate mooks amongst mooks.
They still managed to be threatening in most of the situations if, for nothing else, their sheer numbers.
And, c'mon, it's Donny Yen. And we can see that he's still hitting the guys hard enough to shatter and splinter their armor. And he still needed to be saved by Captain Plasma.

>>50750050
I liked that there was no scrawl. It helped establish the Star Wars stories as different than "Star Wars".

>>50750141
>>50750132

It actually made me consider not doing scrawlsfor my rpg campaigns

>>50750137
Baze was probably one of the only people who I liked seeing kick that much ass. He was really cool and very well-developed. Chirrut was awesome, but less for his fighting and more for the interesting dogmatic aspects he introduced a lot of the audience to.

I didn't actually like seeing Cassian do so well in combat, considering he was an assassin and a backshooter. He just seemed made for the subtlety stuff, and watching him kick so much ass seemed...off. At least Jyn had the excuse of being a child soldier, and it could be said that K2 was reprogrammed as a 4th-Degree droid.

>>50750037
Some groups are like that though where they just want full-on action, all the time.
Which you can do, but as a GM it really does make it a high-energy type of thing to do where you just get pooped after doing it more than once and then its nice to take a bit of a break with a slower game to mend wounds, send in some consequences of their actions, buy guns etc and start fishing around for where the next game will go. Overall the pacing of FFG does mean you can run a LOT of combat in a short amount of time and unless they've got a bacta tank, really good doctor and mechanic, they're probably going to be walking wounded for a while.

NPC's that can swear-bear PC's to strain-0 about their poor life choices with scathing tirade and intimidation are kind of fun, as is the happy-merchant NPC that will rob them utterly blind during negotiation checks.
So my guys quickly figured out, better have someone that can counter that.

Repost; looking for a solid Rebels list for a tournament tomorrow. I was thinking Poe/Rey, but how does that hold up against Dengaroo?

>>50750208
>it could be said that K2 was reprogrammed as a 4th-Degree droid.


He was indeed classed as a Security Droid to get around battledroid laws.

>>50749058

Perle Dasan sounds like a girl who lives in a trailer park. I hate it.

>>50750208
K2 was actually pretty bro-tier.
Especially his death.
It feels off that the last two movies I've watched have been from Disney and featured Steve the fucking Pirate voicing a comic relief character.

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>>50750213
>PC's that can swear-bear PC's to strain-0 about their poor life choices with scathing tirade and intimidation are kind of fun, as is the happy-merchant NPC that will rob them utterly blind during negotiation checks.
>So my guys quickly figured out, better have someone that can counter that.

As a GM of FFG, I absolutely love doing this. I've had parties flee from the Happy Toydarian Merchant as if he was Darth Vader himself

>>50750262
A lot of people have been wanting to use him for voice-acting since I, Robot. People can talk all the shit they want about the film as a whole, but his role as Sonny was emotional and well-done.

>>50750213
>Some groups are like that though where they just want full-on action, all the time.
I'm well aware, and I'm currently running them as an Imperial Special Forces group using the Imperial order chart. I dunno that I'd say that it requires a high-energy pace, though. They don't neccessarily all want to constantly be fighting, they're just a bunch of fucking apes and all require playing as combat characters. It's the weirdest thing, but just something I had to adapt to.

It also makes it fairly grand, because most of their characters are fairly shitty at everything other than combat and one or two skills, so they are pretty consistently shitty at their job and being used as increasingly more and more suicide mission material.

>>50750275
Honestly wasn't even aware it was Wash until the CinemaSins on it.

>excited for Anthology films
>immediately crushed by the weight of how little I care to see The Adventures of Kid Han Solo

>>50750275
I always forget that he was Sonny.
Yeah, Alan Tudyk is mostly remembered for his goofball roles like Wash or Steve the Pirate but he's done some good dramatic stuff too.
But yeah, Disney especially seems to like him. He was also voices in Frozen and Zootopia. (Duke Weselton and then Duke Weaselton)

>>50750315
I just wanna see him fuck over lando and take the falcon from him

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>>50750316
Alan Tudyk as young live-action Hobbie when?

>>50749991
>>50749941
For a reference, a single Stormtrooper, not even a group, KO'd a Jedi in my PC group in our first session.

FFG is very well-balanced. Everything feels appropriately lethal, and Stormtroopers can be as dangerous in session 10 as they are in session 1 depending on how you use them.

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>>50750315
>The Adventures of Kid Han Solo

Its more like "Adventures of 20-something Han Solo" but I kinda feel ya. I hate the actor they chose, because Anthony Ingruber was perfect and they chose some fucking underwear model instead

>>50750363
And the reason why?

He made some dumb movie as a gift for his friend's bar (May have been a girl's bat)mitzvah when he was 13 that Spielberg liked.

>>50750315
>tfw we get that instead of fun movies
>no Asajj Ventress standalone where she fucks around in the interim between III and IV
>no buddy cop hijinks of Bossk and IG-88

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>>50750384

The guy they did choose has a lot more hollywood cred under his belt.

But really, if they wanted to follow the formula of casting unknowns, they should've gone with Ingruber

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>>50750394
>not mentioning the one
>the only
>CAD BANE
You should be ashamed, Anon.

Also, more likely would be Bossk and Dengar. And you already get that in the Clone Wars.

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>>50750394

Were not even getting a Boba Fett movie anymore

>>50750427
Yet Ingruber has the looks and voice.

>>50750444
It's been put on the "backburner," according to a November interview with ET. Not definitively cancelled, probably just on hiatus until the team finds a new director.

>>50750444
>>50750491

Wait, what?

>>50750508
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/22/rogue-one-lucasfilm-new-star-wars-movies

Meant to say EW, not ET, sorry.

>>50750268
>"Take a look around. I've got everything you need, eh!"
PC's walk out with a bunch of shit they don't need like fancy colonist that don't fit, an Ugnaught slave girl, breeding pair of hoojibs and a 2 months supply of really nasty imperial rations- plus, they're going to owe him because they spent a bit more than they intended to and still haven't bought their ammo yet.
But that's ok, he knows a guy that does!

Yes Mr PC, you will eat that shit sandwich and like it

Question. What the fuck was up with that squid thing? I didn't even remember that it happened until someone brought it up after leaving the theater. Are mind reading squid monsters from the EU? What was it's name? To me it sounded like boogle it, which sounds like a google joke because Saw says "Boogle it will find the truth" or something like that and when you want to find the truth in real life you usually google it. Also how does it find the truth? Does it read someones mind suing the tentacles and then just say out loud what they are saying? Anyways great movie probably one of my favorite star wars films.

>>50750444
I'd assume they'll staple him into the Han Solo movie even if just as a cameo.

I'm still just hoping they don't shaft Ewan whose chomping at the bit for a stand-alone Obi-Wan movie. And I would watch the fuck out of an "Obi-Wan as Yojimbo/Sanjuro" film with him dealing with Weequay, Klatooinian, and Nikto yakuza.

>>50750384
>>50750427
>it's another part gets filled because of Jewish connections episode
Oy vey.

>>50750544
Force-telepathic squidmonster might be a thing.

>>50747390
Saga's your friend

>>50750231
Rey/Finn/Poe is fun, but it's a bit hard to fly as you Rey wants to be jousting, even though she has a turret.
Haven't tried vs Dengaroo, but it's a solid enough list.

My personal rebels list that I've been tweaking is Nien Nunb (SoT) with a Green Squadron Cracksnap, and either Poe or Ten Numb.

Nien Nunb with SoT is a nasty thing toward anything PS6 or less (7 depending on initative), but you need somthing to hurt aces. That's what the other half is for.

Then again, local meta is super weird and nothing like the tournament lists.

>>50750623

Are you really suggesting fucking d20 to someone who said they prefer Fate?

>>50747390
I mean, Fate works well. You can just... y'know, use Fate.

>>50750623
...you really don't know what Fate is, do you?

>>50750316
He also has a small part in Wonderboys, which is a great star studded movie that people don't know about.
Probably because it has one of the worst trailers I have ever seen.

>>50750544
Gonna bet its a replacement scene because Saw and crew torturing Bodi a bunch didn't test screen well.

>>50750790

I'm really excited for deleted scenes for R1.

Okay, so in R1 Bail decides to go back to Alderaan after its clear that the Death Star is real and the Empire isn't fucking around. He specifically says that he's going back to prepare for war. Even considering that R1 ends a few weeks/days before ANH, that's some major implications for why Alderaan became Tarkin's first target. Alderaan was going to openly revolt.

>>50750820
Oh shut up and don't be such a Tarkin apologist.

>>50750850
You don't need to apologise for a good villain.

>>50750820
>to prepare for war
Prepare with what? Alderaan was supposed to be unarmed by ANH. Was he going to ring up Another Chance and its escorts?

>>50750850
>>50750820
word. Alderans potential for open revolution had NOTHING to do with why tarkin targeted it. He picked that planet to get one over on Leia before her planned execution.

>>50750820
Tarkin didn't know that and he didn't care.
He knew it was Leia's homeworld and that would get her to talk. He also knew that it was an ancient and respected place with a lot of influence in the galaxy.
It made perfect for his statement of power loud and clear to the rest of the galaxy that he is a colossal swinging dick with an even bigger stick than anyone has ever had before.

>>50750888
Even unarmed their favorite ship could do quite a lot, just ask those two ISDs.

>>50750905
That was a pretty awesome little scene.
Hammerheads in Armada when?

>>50750922
Probably next wave for film synergy

>>50750850
Nothing to do with putting Tarkin over. It implies Alderaan was preparing to do more than sit around with their thumbs up their asses.

>>50750888
Potentially.

>>50750901
He might not have cared, but Vader personally saw the Tantive IV flee with the stolen datatapes and he seemed to have a decent working relationship with Tarkin. He HAD to have known that the Organas were stepping up their activities.

>>50750972
>spoiler
Eh, that is a bit of a break from the ANH dialogue where Vader insists that Leia and co. intercepted the transmission of the Death Star plans. Not had them beamed directly to them and then carried on board on a disc.
Still, R1 does a good job showing Tarkin is still a colossal asshole, even when he's not blowing up planets, and just blowing up Krennic's dreams.

>>50749168
I was all celebratory... and then I was depressed AF walking out of the movie/theater.

We finally get some awesome "non-destined, speshul snowflake" heroes and we don't get full development nor a real "payoff."

I love it as a film, but I don't think I can rewatch it unless I'm ready to feel like a piece of shit.

>>50750922
right after the skipray in XWM.
Also my friend and I are working on a Scum version of HotAC, and I'm getting permission to run 'uglies' so long as I make them.

While I'm tempted by the TIE-wing/DIE-wing, they are supposed to be the literal worst, and these would be ships players would fly. Also I have no y-wings, and I don't plan to buy any just to cut them up.

We do have extra TIEs and a badly managled X-wing, so I'm going to make a Twi-Lek Death Seed, and I'm probably going to turn the bomber from Imperial Vets into the Gand conversion.

Stats for the Death-Seed
3/2/3/1. Has a barrel roll and target lock, no extra slots. Dial is as x-wing, but with 1 hard at white, and the green banks being at 2 rather than 1.

>>50750972
He only knew that one Alderaanian ship with the daughter of their leader helped steal the plans.

>>50751020
From a story and film-making stand point it was a really gutsy move though.

And it does a lot to lend credibility to the Empire and justify Vader's hype as an unstoppable force.

>>50751022
Gand version of the bomber (too lazy to look up name)
Drops the bomb and torps for a shield gen. So I'm dropping those slots and givingit 2 shield.
They altered the panels to be like an interceptor for better periferal vision, so I'm turning the 2 hards to white.

Other ugly ideas?

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>>50751083
You know you want it.

>>50751020
It helps if you view it like a sourcebook because it adds so much to the setting.

>>50749706
It makes sense. Obviously the fleet and fighters that go to Scarif see the Death Star, and the survivors make it back to Yavin.

I assume with two of their major leaders now dead, and a fair portion of their fighters on Yavin depleted as well as a fair group of capital ships they decide to scatter the fleet and hold.

Wedge remarks "Look at the size of that thing." Like it's the first time he's ever seen it in ANH. Maybe he was off doing other shit for the Rebels somewhere else before ending up on Yavin for ANH. He's obviously a decent fighter pilot by that point and only gets better as the movies trail on.

I'll admit, I wanted Wedge in there too, but then I got to musing.

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>>50751083
zceptor

also just make stuff up.

>>50751166
that poor astromech.

>>50750394
>no Ewan McGregor Obi-Wan standalone

>>50751057
It certainly makes Tarkin look like a dick, but we all ready know this from just ANH let alone the current canon.

Well within his character to just nuke the Imperial Secret Project Database rather than let the Rebels get away with it.

I've been an Imperial fan since ESB (Cemented by Star Wars: TIE Fighter where again you play a regular Joe/Jane, but damn man, I actually wanted to be a Rebel for the first time in like 30 years watching R1.

>>50750644
Didn't read the Fate bit until I posted :(

>>50751260
Tarkin becomes so much better having read the book about him, even if I've only gotten up to meeting the Emperor so far.

He kind of reminds me of Czevak in Atlas Infernal in that book.

>>50751108
>Wedge remarks "Look at the size of that thing."
Ah, yes, you're right. I remember I had that same thought and that does make a good argument why he wouldn't be there.
Still sad there was no Porkins.
At least we get to see Luke's Red 5 callsign position open up.

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>>50751083
>Other ugly ideas
TIE ball cockpit hooked up to a B-wing rotation mechanism, Chir'daki style, with four B-wing hulls attached to the outside of the mechanism by the neck. Each B-hull is a superlaser prototype.

K-wing hull, TIE ball cockpit, every external hardpoint hooked up to a TIE Experimental M1 turbolaser or TIE Bomber ordnance pod.

Selonian cone ship with a SLAM jury-rigged to its engines.

Hollowed out colossus wasp husk with turbolaser batteries in place of its eyes.

TIE Crawler that has replaced its LN ball cockpit with an upside-down Striker cockpit pod. In place of a bomb rack, it instead carries a mortar and autoloader.

TIE Punisher, but with each ordnance pod replaced by a TIE Experimental M5 engine with booster.

>>50751468
>Selonian cone ship with a SLAM jury-rigged to its engines.
Doesn't the SLAM require a gun?

>>50751503
Amend that to "Selonian cone ship with a SLAM and a turbolaser."

>>50750491
Just like the Boba Fett game, 1313.

>>50751553
Don't recall that being about Boba. And wasn't it straight to cancelled?

His dad's game was awesome.

>>50749808
Literally never. Cuck Wending's Aftermath made it clear that Rogue Squadron doesn't exist in nu-canon. Wedge is in charge of something else, forgot the name.

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>>50751468
I'm loving this meme of crazy TIE designs.

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>>50751553
>>50751606
It wasn't ORIGINALLY about Fett, But Lucas suggested it.

>>50751468
while I love the idea, maybe something I could physically covert without being high on Sienar's special.

Or if we're going to be crazy, remember this is scum town, no reason to limit ourselves to just TIE bits.

Explain the Sienar meme to someone who only knows the films.

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>>50751778
If there was a conceivable combination of solar panels and ball cockpits, OldCanon Sienar Fleet Systems tried to make it work.

>>50751778
In the EU, Seinar Fleet Systems has a history of slapping pieces of established TIE designs together in wacky new configurations and selling the resulting abomination to the Empire as a new TIE variant. See >>50751647, the so-called TIE Interdictor or "TIE Punisher", which is simply a TIE Bomber with four(!) bomb-bays instead of the original's one. /swg/ is firmly convinced that Raith Seinar is some kind of Howard Hughes-meets-Tony Stark lunatic who whips up these designs in a few hours while STONED OUT OF HIS MIND on binges of almost any (and sometimes EVERY) intoxicant and narcotic in the Star Wars galaxy.

>>50750050
>>50750132
>>50750141

The lack of opening crawl, the choice of much harder cuts, and the little location tags down in the corner gave it a very different feel than a mainline film, and I greatly appreciated that. Too bad the score was mediocre ass unless it was directly ripping Williams, and the theme utter trash.

>>50751806
>all of those blind spots
The only way for me to not scream in frustration is to imagine that the helm or inner cockpit provides at least symbol highlights all around you. Because the lack of situation awareness in flying a TIE is just fucking astounding.

>>50751806
>guys do you think they'll notice that we reused the same design like 5 times
>naaaah it's fiiiiiine

>>50751806
>TIE Raptor

Explain.

That Chiss Clawcraft is sexy as fuck.

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>>50752009
Believe it or not, the Moe TIE-Raptor is not actually Sienar, it's one of Zsinj's crazy ideas, like talking Gammorean super geniuses and Ewok-limb-extenders.

>>50752009
>>50752028
The TIE-Raptor: For when the regular TIE-Fighter isn't suicidal enough!

>>50751468
Tyderian Shuttle, folding wings both replaced by Bwing fusilage. Tyderian escapepod/cockpit ejected, replaced with AT-AT head.

Firespray class ship, S-foil manuevering fins replaced by starviper wings.

>>50752028
>>50752055
Raptors are actually shielded and missile armed, they're damn nice fighters.
>>50752079
>Firespray class ship, S-foil manuevering fins replaced by starviper wings.
I could see that after EU Mandalmotors buys the license from KDY to produce them since Fett is so famous.

>>50750638
That's a neat list, but like you said I'm not to sure it'll hold up against meta lists.
Tournament will be packed with hardcore players, so I know they'll be bringing top tier stuff.

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so does the upcoming Upsilon stand to make a dent in the prevalence of palp aces or dengaroo?
enabling a turn 1 alphastrike on the support ship.

>>50751865
>Raith Seinar
Imagine if he ended up Emperor. Like, managed to get ontop of the post-Endor power struggle for awhile.

>>50749058
Powty Linar

>>50749988
No Madine, but Jan Dodonna, Red Leader, Gold Leader, and Bail Organa are.

>>50750152
>>50750141
>>50750132
>scrawl!?

So I have some friends who want to start a Star Wars: Age of Rebellion campaign on the side of our various D&D shenanigans. Sounds great to me, I love the Star Wars setting and so having a romping ol' time fighting an evil empire sounds great and I haven't played a sci fi RPG in years.

However since I've never played it and like to make sure I can make mechanically solid characters, how can I make a fun and effective bounty hunter-esque character? Right now, of the 2 other players, one wants to be a pilot and the other a technician. Leaving me to fill the role of the big bruiser who has been assigned to babysit the eggheads as they get into trouble. So the characters I'm thinking of:

-Bounty Hunter (yes yes Boba Fett is overplayed I'm sure, but it's a cool archetype within the universe)

-Heavy weapons guy. Big ol cannons, gattling guns, and explosions.

-Infiltrator/sniper. Compliments the other two and shifts the campaign more towards special forces sabotage type shenanigans.

Any guidance from people familiar with the system would be most appreciated.

>>50752581
Yeah, it's fucking Crawl.

>>50752583
Depending on things automatic weapons are VERY powerful without houserules, bordering on broken once your aim is very good.

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>>50752384
I don't think so, deployment is the least of your worries both playing as them or against them. If anything a fat new-Han putting pressure on immediately seems like it would be more impactful but I haven't really played enough games with him to say with certainty. So far the thing is not so much the damage but basically taking away control over how the engagement is going to start, and/or punishing castles and sandbagging to stack tokens.

I want to try with Expertise, with Hotshot + either Gunner or Baze Malbus. Because you don't need to tank ships that are dead and going to time is for fags.

>>50749147
They deserve it. Rebel scum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muK2vq6UzYU

>>50746892
Guy really has a bad history with big guys wearing life support masks.

>>50746912
Wish I had that picture back when everyone was bitching about shitskin stormtroopers prior to TFA.

Did anyone else really expect the remaining members of Cerrera's Partisans to show up as the Rohirrim as a redemption thing? It just seemed like a bit of a Chehkov's gun that they almost all seemed to get away.

>>50752649
There are some weird cute here that make the scene lose its impact. In the film each action was as fast as you see here, but he had a certain slowness about the way he went about it. The way it seems to rapidly cut from one maneuver to another takes away from the overall presentation.

>>50752592

Hmm, good to know. I'm trawling through the 1d4chan article now to get a feel for the classes and specializations, and liking the sound of a Soldier (sharpshooter)/Bounty Hunter (gadgeteer) character.

>>50752679
Oh you fucker.

>>50752765
Yeah, that was a massive waste of good costuming.

>>50752592
maybe instead of simply running out of ammo, their barrels overheat when you roll despair

>>50752773
So you're saying when there is a good rip the scene will be even better. Nice.

>>50752765
I would have liked it if they joined the Rebs after the destruction of Jedha City, which from the trailers it looked they they would have (at least the X-Wing pilots). But I'm not bothered by it either way, they were already estranged from the Rebel Alliance so it makes just as much sense for them to go on their own was as to re-join them, that and there would have been too many characters among the grunts.

>>50752795
Likewise, it just seemed they did a lot to set them up and make them look unique, then survive, then never showed up again. The Gas Mask guy specifically.

>>50752765
I honestly didn't expect them to show up at all. I could tell they were just like the Middle Eastern fighters they looked like (at least, as my veteran roommate described those he interacted with): tough fighters when things are going their way, but they'll hit the breeze and disappear into the nearest civilian populace when things get too rough.

I think having your Holy City exploded from underneath you qualifies. In this case, they were "muh brave freedom fighters," despite their clearly brutal civilians-in-the-middle-of-our-firefight and suicide-grenade-runs tactics.

>>50752791
Nah, maybe after multiple despairs.

>>50749646
At frist I was like "wat that looks weird as fuck" then I got used to it, and then with Leia it was weird again, then it ended before I got used to it.

>>50752797
Yeah. They're actually missing a few kills. Vader uses one of his deflections to hamstring a dude. Among other things.

>>50752814
Well yeah, hence why I expected them to have a sort of redemption thing. Saw had his little realization of what he's done when he allows himself to die and the little speech about saving the dream. I expected the rest of them to have similar about faces. I really expected them to be the guy Gyn sees when she turns around after the big Blaster guy says "how many".

>>50752815
if you ignore the red hot glow, make an agility check, then ask which hand is closest to the barrel

>>50752811
Yeah...
That's film for you I guess, it's amazing some of the man-hours and skill that get put into sets, props and effects even when they only show for a minute or less. in the movie War Horse for example, they built a working full replica of a British Mk. IV / V Great War tank (albeit on a tractor chassis), and it had an important but very short role in the movie. It's at a tank museum somewhere in bongland now and they still drive it around.

>>50752843
You and I saw Saw's death from different perspectives. I viewed it as him martyring himself. Because there's literally no point to him not getting in the U-Wing with the others, except to try and "save the dream," in his own fucked-up civilians-as-collateral-damage-are-totes-okay way.

>>50752797
I don't think the rip matters, there were a few odd cuts that I vaguely remember.

>>50752811
I wanted the goddamn gatling-yeti and scout-trooper helmet guy too.

>>50752814
Not all of them were Durkhas, this one was a rare survivor of Tarkin's Parkin'! (Or at least I HOPE the Ghorman massacre's details are unchanged)

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>>50752814
>>50752876
FUCK, I forgot the image.

>>50752865
Yeah, I saw it more as a suicide in a moment of lucidity out of his drug/trauma induced state. He realized all the bad shit he's done and decides that he ought to just stop while he's ahead. He doesn't want to keep living knowing he might go back to being a lunatic and ruining shit further. It's pretty literal when he says he isn't running anymore. He doesn't even want to give himself the chance

>>50752891
I honestly just don't think highly enough of Saw to think he'd have that kind of realization. And in a position of having that exact realization, I wouldn't let myself die unless I was trying to make some sort of martyr statement with it.

Instead, I like to think that I'd help my foster daughter (whom I'd wronged, at least in her eyes) save the goddamned galaxy if I actually meant what I said about "saving the dream," and not letting myself run anymore. I'd do something instead of just letting myself die. It smacks of ingenuine behavior.

Either he made a stupid decision in the middle of an emotional moment (which is entirely possible and a thing that happens in real life, but not as good from a story-telling perspective), or he is doing what you said (which I disagree with, because see above I suppose), or he decided to stick to his earlier-established scummy behavior (as seen through the actions of himself--at least, after he worked with Galen and saved Jyn--and his men) and tried to martyr himself because fuck it.

>>50750444
Hadn't they planned to keep making new Star Wars movies well into the 2030s?

Plenty of time for a Fett movie.

>>50752920
Where you see scummy I see crazy. I think he didn't realize how far into the deep end he had gotten until he saw Gyn again, and he realized he couldn't in good conscious lead these people again. So the fight he was running from wasn't with the Empire, but with his own guilt. He told Gyn to keep the dream alive because he let it die for himself, and he realized where it had gotten him. I haven't seen the show though, does he act like a real piece of shit in that too?

>>50752945
Remember, Galen thought Saw was still part of the wide-ranging rebellion. So he knew Jyn back when he was still relatively sane.

Nah he's just not all that competent at the time of the show.

>>50752945
Genuine spoilers if you haven't seen the show.

In the show he's a hot-headed teenager who doesn't truly understand the scale of what he's getting involved in. The loss of his sister really took it out of him a bit, but seeing him now it's clear that it snapped something in him and caused him to really embrace his bitterness toward the current foe. I saw current foe because it was the CIS who murdered his sister, and he's channeling all that hate into the Empire for some reason.

Back to our conversation regarding his motives,

Honestly, scummy or crazy, I genuinely think that if I'd come to that realization you're describing, my answer on making it right would be doing something about it. Fixing it. Especially when I just heard the mission that Galen gave to me/his daughter/whoever the fuck was listening, really.

The man, I feel, has a responsibility: to himself, his rebellion, and his adoptive daughter who he only just now told how much he thought about her and wanted to make things right. How he can leave her to handle all that he just heard herself when he can just as easily step on that U-Wing (and give us the amazing "what will you become?" line that we missed from that trailer) and earn a genuine, honest-to-God redemption instead of becoming a half-assed martyr?

It's unfortunate writing, really. Good thing the rest of the movie was so dope.

>>50752633
>If anything a fat new-Han putting pressure on immediately seems like it would be more impactful

that's what i was meaning. the ships dormitz allows to delpy forwards can get a turn 1 shot guaranteed if they have a 4 straight on the dial.

>>50749058
Allga Lapai, I think I sound like a very dead Jedi.

>>50752649

>wrist flicking a whole squad's worth of blaster fire

m u h d i c k

>Galen's work killed his daughter in the end

can't handle it, lads

>>50752994
>>50752992
>>50752945
Show?

>>50753076
jyn and cassian huggin in front of the blastwave
It hurts

>>50753093
The Clone Wars, the six-season CG one. Saw Guerrera is a character from a several-episode long arc involving Onderon's fight for independence from CIS occupation.

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>>50752592
>automatic weapons are VERY powerful without houserules

Tonight in my game, Mando PC with a Z-6 Rotary and a rank of Jury Rig, including Laser Sight and Superior, smoked a Nemesis in one turn, by chaining ten 15 damage autofire hits.

Needless to say, the fucker died.

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>>50753076
Shit, that's a detail that I missed during the film's epic climax. It is such a great and terrible thing that a Star Wars movie gives us so many feels.

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>>50752592
>>50753145
Playing the EA Battlefront snerk all you want, it's easy to get back into after time away and can actually be fun has given me a massive blaster-boner for the DLT-19. Is it represented in FFG? How does it perform?

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Saw is coming to Rebels

>>50749995
I can confirm we are a despicable race.

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>>50753190

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>>50753172
>Is it represented in FFG? How does it perform?

Its a Generic Heavy Blaster rifle, which means its available at CharGen, does a great amount of damage for an early character, has AutoFire, and a good array of stats.

Its rep'd well, but unfortunately there is no good analogue for the T-21

>>50753190

Rebels is so fucking hideous.

>>50753209
I really wanna jump into it but that aesthetic always turns me off before I even start.

>>50752649
>cut the ceiling pin
>cut LAUUUUUUNCH!
4/10, shitty camrip and shitty editing of an 11/10 scene

>>50753172
>>50753207
That's because the T-21 was the generic light repeating blaster at the time you could argue that technically the slow rate of fire and shitty low overheat budget on the EAfront one doens't mean it's NOT a full auto weapon.

And the light repeater does one more damage than the DLT-19 standard, but since for some fucking reason it's ineligible for all damage upgrades aside from Superior like the Augmented Spin Barrel it's worse than a generic Heavy Blaster Rifle with Augmented Spin.

>>50753273
Why would someone EDIT a goddamn camrip?

>>50753291
is there a point to the Light repeater?

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>>50753076
>the only reason he sold his soul to the Empire was so she'd stay safe and far away

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>>50753301
I am one with the force, the force is with me

Guys, I just watched Darth Vader walking straight through a squad of soldiers.

I don't think I'm going to forget that any time soon.

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>>50753309
In all honesty though, it was my favorite scene.

>>50753291
>it's ineligible for all damage upgrades

What? Its a Ranged Heavy Blaster, it should be eligible for anything that says "Ranged Heavy Blaster"

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>>50753309
>finishes off every last Death Trooper before eating a thermal detonator
>The entire hemisphere gets superlasered a few minutes later anyway

I'm so glad R1 was a prequel. Even knowing what happens over the next week or so in universe didn't quell the sad little voice in me wailing that all that sacrifice nearly amounted to nothing.

>>50753357
>almost

When you think about it it did amount to nothing because the Empire just built another one a few years later and those plans everyone died to get weren't useful in putting it down. They died hoping to score some big victory, but really they just bought a few more months.

>>50753316
The music for that scene and the quiet dirge as the superlaser shockwave passes over Scarif are the two bits of music from R1 that will actually stick with me.

It's rare that the visuals of a scene sell the music to me instead of the other way around.

>>50753368

the plans were how they figured out about the death star's anus though

yavin iv would have been destroyed without them when the battle came around

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>>50753357
>>50753368

Considering the next couple years, including Hoth, was basically the Alliance being hounded across the galaxy, and suffering staggering defeats like DerraIV - the victory over the Death Star was paid for in buckets of blood

>>50753368
destroying the first death star was more than a delay, it elevated them from minor threat to major power

in the old-canon (which has not yet been disproven) Mon calamari joined the alliance, openly and publicly, in response to the battle of yavin, and instead of letting capital ships "fall of the back of a truck" were able to produce capital ships in mass

and think of what it would do for morale, it proves that the under dog win, that the mightiest weapon the empire can bring can be taken down, the empire is not invincible, that statement would produce thousands of recruits, encourage reluctant backers to suddenyl start investing

more than delaying, it brought hope to the galaxy

Is the discontinued expanded universe or legends thing over? I want to download everthing and read it but if they keep publishing stuff for it I'll probably just wai

>>50753368
Yet without them the remaining events would not have happened, the Empire's repression would have been complete and the heroes never united.

>>50753387
At the same time the Rebels bought the time to build the fleet in Return of the Jedi.

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>tfw vader's ISD literally bats aside fleeing rebel ships when it pops out of hyperspace

>>50753368
Let's be fair here, Palpatine probably would have been on board with Tarkin's plan to vaporize any planet that bothered to speak out against Imperial control and/or mass murder.

Destroying DS1 after merely killing Alderaan cost the Rebels one of their most politically powerful allied planets - right after Tarkin convinced Palpatine to drop the Senate in an acid vat, thus rendering political aptitude moot - in exchange for making it very clear to any concerned system that the Empire was willing to blow up entire civilizations before they would make a single concession to its subjects.

Those few years of interim gave the Rebels time to marshal the wave of galaxy-wide dissent and become an actual force to be reckoned with regardless of how hard Sheev rused them at Endor.

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>>50753417
Kuat builds their spaceframes more durable than Gallofree's, to say the least

Did anyone find it funny how in every battle scene the Stormtroopers ran into blaster fire through doors like lemmings?

>>50753460
But anon, how can Stormtroopers take cover when they can't even sit down?

>>50753460
It's called the Fatal Funnel for a reason, anon. And in most situations where that happened, the stormies had little choice but to continue anyway. Rebels gotta get kill't somehow.

Though yes, I feel like cutting down on the amount of stormtroopers involved in those door-bangs would have been better. And showing more stormtroopers having the presence of mind to lay down behind defilade like the Death Troopers did would have helped their professional imagery.

>>50753460
Only two of the scenes had that and what can you do when you're bottlenecked like that?

>>50753490
They did take cover once they were out I thought?

>>50753368
Like dude said
>>50753396
Yavin legitimized the Rebel Alliance to of the galaxy as more than an scattered insurrection and showed that even the Empire's mightiest weapons could be defeated and it's atrocities would no longer go unanswered. It gave confidence to previously intimidated groups to declare their side and work in the open. They had the will, Yavin proved they also had the way.

>>50753490
At least we also saw a fair share of Rebel casualties, especially when it made sense such as when they broke cover in fear or otherwise exposed themselves.

>>50753509
Behind crates and whatnot in a very third-person shooter manner. Certainly better than nothing, but they weren't very good at working hallway and door angles or laying down in defilade. You'd be amazed what little nooks and crannies you can find in the ground when someone's shooting at you. The Death Troopers did a great job of it, and were even lucky enough to find a crater! That's prime real-estate, that is. Lets you do things like change position, reload, or pull out a grenade or other special weapon without being seen.

>>50753460

The one where they kept going into the room with the droid was the funniest.

>>50753524
In the EU there was at least in the EU a decent chance of the trooper surviving an incapacitating shot so maybe taking cover behind the bodies of the first people out the door may have been considered poor form?

A bit of a weak argument but it's there to be made. But yeah the second wave probably should have ducked back into the convenient door niches (Which were a nice addition by the set designers, I guess they saw the complaints about how terrible the cover was by the door on Endor.)

>>50753567
>taking cover behind the first people out of the door
An inherently horrible idea, because you're still in the Fatal Funnel. And to make things worse, your buddies are tripping over you while they try to leave the Funnel. I'm not sure I can truly explain to you just how bad the Funnel is without telling you to go watch the movie again. It makes a pretty clear case.

And yeah, taking cover behind dead or dying friends is very likely considered poor form unless the situation has become well and truly desperate (surrounded, literally no cover whatsoever, etc.), and I didn't get that desperate feeling from most of the scenes we saw.

>>50753564
Yeah, no idea why they didn't just grenade K2. We already know stormies carry them.

>>50753599
Thermal detonating indoors? Sounds like a bad idea.

And the issue a friend brought up with that scene K2 took an OBSCENE amount of damage considering Jyn took out the same model droid in a single shot. I figured he was pulling a Dinobot and overriding the maintenance shutdown.

>>50753621

If you can't use your grenades to clear after a breach when indoor fighting then you should be issued ones that can actually be used.

>>50753621
It's an interesting point. I assumed that he was just heroic, to be honest. From a no-heroes-logic perspective, maybe the stormies weren't hitting the right spot? Jyn might have gotten lucky with her placement; hers was a reflexive shot.

Then again, your explanation works just as well. Maybe a combination of them all.

>>50753621
Honestly, this (>>50753685). Grenades are way more dangerous to use indoors than Hollywood would have you think, but they do indeed work. And a galactic society as advanced (and as militant) as the Empire should have a mass-producable hand-grenade with a low-enough yield for indoor use at lower risk to the throwers.

>>50753698
>>50753685
They only issue the standard patrol trooper one Thermal Detonator barring special circumstances.

>>50753599

I'd imagine that they didn't want to damage the door controls that were on that panel. They wanted to capture/kill the spies, after all

>>50753808
Oh, that's the best explanation of all!

I bought some micromachine blind bag to practice painting for my x wing miniatures and the first one I open is a Rancor

Im still gonna paint it, but it really wasnt what I had in mind when I bought them

>>50753974
Build a boarding torpedo for it.

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Hey guys... is this relevant enough to leave here for peeps who have been looking for a decent scan?

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>>50754595
the fluff...


now the crunch

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>>50752884
>Ghorman massacre
>Grand Moff Parkin' is canon again

>>50753300
If you're getting into imperial entanglements its kinda easy to get ahold of to use until you can get an augmented spin barrel for something else.

>>50753521
In hindsight the Death Star was an enormous problem for the Empire. Before the completion of the Death Star most people (and governments) in the galaxy probably had an attitude similar to Jyn's: the imperial flag waving above your head is not a problem as long as you don't look up. You keep your head down and live the most normal life you can.

Then the Empire finishes the Death Star. They blow up Alderaan and dissolve the senate. This is Tarkin's manifesto: submit or die. Many would be overawed by the power of the Empire and its willingness to casually murder entire civilizations for dissent. The Empire will not permit you passivity any more: they will not accept anything short of complete obedience. The only alternative is for you to revolt, which will accomplish only the swift destruction of your homeworld.

Then the Alliance blows up the Death Star. Suddenly the calculus changes: revolt is possible and no matter how powerful the Empire is, it can be defeated.

The Death Star forced the question of loyalty. Without the threat of the Death Star looming on the galaxy, many chose to side against the Empire.

>>50754724
As an inverse, and to reinforce your own point, think of how less inflamed the rebellion would have been had the thing not been used on Alderan. Or even not been finished.

There would have been no forcing everyone and their mother to choose a side. Many would have done what Jyn did. After all between the Empire and the ending of the Clone Wars era Republic, there was little difference really. And the Emperor did end the Clone Wars and bring a period of two decades, there about, of relative peace. Why rebel when the Empire gives fuck all about the average Joe. The death star, changes all that.

>>50754777
the empire, though powerful, didnt have complete control, there were numerous never ending rebellions, as well as a highly de-centralized govenrment, 40k style, where the farther you got from the core worlds the less power you had

they also kept people in lien through numerous concessions to their own power, like allowing a senate, and allowing political discussion

the death star would have changed the game, they could dissolve the senate and enact complete and utter power even over the outer rim, and completely shut down any dissention

they could not take out the rebellion the old fashioned way, so the death star was their evil plan to beat them, and it backfired spectacularly

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>>50752532
>Evil scientist in charge of a Space Nazi empire
It would have resulted in the Dark Forces equivalent of Wolfenstein: The New Order.

So I see someone keeps posting images from the visual guide to rogue one...

Any chance we can get the rest/ some more of it? I find those books really cool!

>go into Rogue One expecting a thoroughly mediocre, yet entertaining enough film
>get IT AIN'T ME Rebels, fleet action, and Y-Wings saving the Rebellion

What a film.

>>50751368
>Tarkin becomes so much better having read the book about him
Honestly, I was annoyed how he reminiscent all the time about his teenage safari.
It is brought up almost in every goddamn chapter.

>>50755578
>go to Rogue One expecting a thoroughly mediocre, yet entertaining enough film.

>get a thoroughly mediocre film

Meh.

>>50755982

Man, if you thought that was mediocre, the rest of the films must not do much for you either.

>>50756031
No, the OT and even moments of the PT are pretty good.

These new Star Wars films are boring nostalgia-cows. They just feel soulless.

But I'm not jonesing for new Star Wars to the point that I'm willing to lower my expectations.

I made a new thread, but then I decided the image was too spoilery. Someone else do it.

>>50756031
It was mediocre, to be honest. Even if I'm just analysing it from a filmic perspective. First twenty minutes are a mess - five establishing shots in seven locations? Yikes, back to film school pls. The only character who developed or had anything resembling an arc during the entire film was K2. The war scenes were incredible, which is really what Gareth Edwards excels at, but everything else? Solid 5/10. It's by no means a bad film, but boy oh boy remove the IP and it's also not a good film.

>>50749058
>Che Jachi
It actually works

>>50749058

>Parch Kagre

Well, there's a good name for a bounty hunter or merc or something. Maybe better if I flip the e and r to "Kager"

>>50749058
>Treca Ch'Lew

Looks better this way IMO