Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>50709142
Playing a charisma based character anyway.

I'm too smart to worship some filthy fucking fey creature.

Is there any way to swap wis for cha on a war soul?

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>>50709273

Says the guy probably worshiping some upstart Human

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>>50709273

You take that back!

>>50709277
What is with /pfgs/ obsession with making everything Charisma?

>Character has flight speed 50 but land speed 30? no problem
>Character has swim speed 60 but land speed 30? sure
>Character has climb speed 40 but land speed 20? totally fine
>Character is able to jump 40 ft but has land speed 30? HELL NO!
Why?

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>>50709273

>tfw to intelligent to worship

>>50709295
There are already options for wis swaps and int swaps, so people want cha swaps as well.

>>50709315
t. Pure Legion

>>50709295
Because a lot of the powers manifested from 'inside oneself' are cha based, and as >>50709321
said there's already options for a lot of int / wis swaps, why not cha?

It's to reduce MAD for me, because unfortunately most point buy (or even rolling systems) don't let you have high numbers in every area.

>>50709321
>Int Swaps
Like what. There's living Legend, but those can't e war souls and it also carries a lot of fluff baggage.

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>>50709339

>too intelligent to worship
>not intelligent enough to irrigate

>>50709277
No. Brutality Blade is charisma though ain't it?

What country has the best banter in Avistan? The Australia of Golarion, in other words.

>>50709498
The Australia of Golarion? That'd be Sargava.

>>50709295
Because /pfg/ is obsessed with terrible things, and Cha is the worst ability score.

>>50709553

We're just a proper land of misfits, aren't we?

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>>50709553

Speaking of terrible things, Can someone give me good primer on the Shoanti? I know they're like warrior native Americans or something. but that's the extent of my knowledge.

Its for RotJR

>>50709307
Because autism, no, really, the whole problem with you being able to jump farther than your speed is because "well duh, then you'll use jump as a way of movement!" which already happens when you have flight.

Also takes less resources to rise land speed than to rise jump a meaningful distance.

>>50709577
>Can someone give me good primer on the Shoanti?

They're the warrior caste of the Thassilonian Empire left to fend for themselves for a couple thousand years, they're shamelessly Native American in flavor but in appearance they're some mutt combination of Varisian, Ulfen and Kellid.

They've got a lot of bad blood with their neighbors to the South, notably Korvosa - they get along just fine with the native Varisians.

Read up on this for more information!
https://the-shattering-of-darkmoon-vale.obsidianportal.com/wikis/shoanti (Includes an awesome list of Shoanti sayings, very useful for characters!)
http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Shoanti
http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Shoanti

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GUYS THIS IS VITALLY IMPORTANT!!

i need to stat a WereReindeer.

>>50709623
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/lycanthrope

>>50709623

Wouldn't that be a hybrid of the Wereboar and Weretiger? Reindeer are quick and nimble, but got those awfully vicious horns!

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>>50709623

Spell caster variant

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>>50709620

>Belor Hemlock is shown as black in the original RotRL book
>He's actually Shoanti
>Pic related

That book did a lot of things wrong with their art, Ameiko looks *nothing* like the lovely youth she's described as being.

>>50709623
>>50709643

Don't forget to convert Rudolph's nose into a plasma lance!

>As a standard action once every 3 rounds, an annihilator can fire a 120-foot-long line of plasma from its tail. All creatures in this area take 20d6 points of damage (Reflex DC 22 half). Half of this damage is fire and half is electricity. The save DC is Intelligence-based.

>>50709660
Legend says that the artist hated the guts of James Jacob when someone slipped out that Ameiko and other characters were actually PCs the game developers had played with before.
Hence the guy draw Ameiko as a crazy crack junkie bitch.

>>50709352
Clever Wordplay
Bruising Intellect
Student of Philosophy
Pragmatic Activator
Cunning Liar

Those are just for Int-to-skill.

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>>50709674

he's already got a lance.

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>>50709676
That's fucking hilarious. Also, Jubrayl's art fits. None of the others do.

This Belor looks much better.

>>50709676
>Legend says that the artist hated the guts of James Jacob when someone slipped out that Ameiko and other characters were actually PCs the game developers had played with before.

Oh god, I can believe it, especially since Paizo was still a young company and didn't have the clout they do now among artists.

It *really* fucked up the way I perceived the setting, too. When all your artwork is pulp comic or even cartoonish in style, that tends to fuck up the tone you assign to that setting.

>>50709679
Orator.
Empiricist.

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>>50709577
>>50709620

Is it wrong that i see the Shoanti as inhabitants of the Monster Hunter world?

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>>50709703

>Also, Jubrayl's art fits. None of the others do.

>He likes the slimy charlatan more than the handsome scoundrel

>>50709643
the armor and pose look familia- OH
it's fucking Galamoth from CV:SotN redrawn as a reindeer hahahaha that's actually kinda great?

>>50709737

That's basically what they are, anon!

They're big, they're tough, if half-giants were a thing in Golarion they'd certainly come from one of the Quahs (this is the ethnic group that gave us "Bred for War" after all, the only trait with a height requirement.)

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>>50709738
>He likes the handsome scoundrel more than the slimy charlatan

>>50709703
>>50709738
For what I know many artist can't stand James Jacobs because the guy doesn't have any fucking idea of theory of aesthetics or history of art. This is proven by his devotion of Reynold's art to which he even fanboys front of other artists.
Also, if you are an artist and you have the disgrace of work in the art for an AP in which one of Jacobs' characters appear be ready to be commissioned for extra official lewd art.

Reminder that GM is merely another player in the game.
Cut your GM some slack.

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>>50709757
>>50709737

>yfw you'll never play in a campaign where you play as the warriors in a small Shoanti tribe that hunts huge monsters to survive.

Will i explode if I take levels in both arcane magic and divine magic?

>>50709801
But I like Reynold...

>>50709816

What you are describing is playing as a Shoanti (probably bodyguard) in Serpent's Skull or Giantslayer!

Speaking of monster hunter

>>50709577
Why is she wearing the Gunner Barioth set, when she's clearly a Blademaster?

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>>50709827
>>50709801

Wayne Reynolds tries *very* hard, but oh my god do I hate his art style. It doesn't fit a setting like Golarion at all, and I wager that's one of the many reasons I had trouble immersing myself into the world until way later.

His artwork is detailed, but *ugly*, it presents a world-view that's vaguely cartoonish and comic-book when it's obvious from the landscape artwork or heck, stuff from Crimson Throne that they were clearly going for a more "realistic" (in comparison) aesthetic, I mean god damn imaging if the art was drawn in the same vein as the stuff from CotCT or Inner Sea Races!

>>50709865
Ron Spencer once said that Reynold is as crazy as a soup of cockatoos on cocaine because he is a closeted homo.

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Yeah I got nuthin' right now. Have a half-assed wizard reaction image in the mean time.

>>50709142
>Where were you when Magdh's Fey Obedience + Intelligence swaps obsoleted Wisdom and Charisma even more?
What does Magdas Obedience have to do with wisdom or charisma at all?

>>50709952
That's the point. It gives another bonus to intelligence so that you don't need wis or cha.

Best options for a gestalt Unchained Monk/Kineticist building towards DBZ style close combat with intermittent big damage blasts?
I can be swayed on the Monk side of things, but I'd like to be a Kineticist if possible (I bought some books). All 3pp available.

Any suggestions at all that aren't just "kineticist is the worst class" appreciated. Cheers, /tg/ <3

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>>50709865
I understand what you mean, but none of those are such big negative aspects to me.
His use of color, his excess, they are all the reasons I love his work.
It drops all that clean pretense lot of old fantasy art has, and is more guttural, more visceral, tactile.

>>50709381
>implying regular irrigation works when Aroden crashed your local climate pattern with no survivors by dying and making a super-hurricane
>implying Sarenrae's not drying out all of their already limited freshwater sources as revenge for them rejecting her even though Kalim Onaku is basically her fault

>>50709971
No, it is to skills that are not Wis or cha based, it has no baring on them, would a feat that gives +4 to all charisma based skills give an unfair advantage to charisma over wisdom? No, infact the opposite it allows you to make higher checks with less investment, it devalues the stat in question.

How to make character with dual personality? Any suggestions?

>>50709952
>>50709971
>>50710005
Where's the Wis or Cha version of Maghd's boon?

>>50710011
Have two distinct personalities in mind.

>>50710000

Hey hey! Sarenrae's all about redemption and second chances... But since Rahadoum rejected her forceful attempts at conversion they clearly need the Plagues unleashed on their people!

>>50710015
It's called Magdh's boon it is going to help a wisdom or charisma based class alot more then an int based, hell imagine it with bardic knowledge.

>>50710000
>implying Sarenrae's not drying out all of their already limited freshwater sources as revenge for them rejecting her even though Kalim Onaku is basically her fault

NEUTRAL
GOOD

>>50710028
>reminder that Sarenrae let the people of Gormuz settle on top of the Dead Vault and only sent them a vision once or twice to misinterpret
>reminder that she let them build a cult around the location and /then/ sent her herald to correct them
>reminder that when they killed her herald she struck down the city and opened the Pit of Gormuz, letting the Spawn of Rovagug out
>reminder that the Tarrasque is Sarenrae's fault

>>50710028
>>50710077
My personal opinion is that it was her mistake caused by her nature of being merely an upgraded angel.

Proper gods like Asmodeus do not make mistakes like that.

>>50710043
No, because it gets full retard when you stack it with Clever Wordplay, Cunning Liar, Student of Philosophy, and/or Orator.

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>>50709577
>>50709859

So i want this Shoanti to have made the a vow on the spirits of her dead tribe to kill and eat one of every creature under the sun to prove that her tribe can be strong and prosperous, even when she's the last member.

What sort of revelation would spark this kind of vow? "The Strong eat the Weak?", "the best way to prove that you're stronger than your foe is to eat them?"

I have a general idea here, but i'm having trouble fleshing it out. into actual paragraphs.

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>tfw forever DM
Who else here has upwards of 5 character concepts/sheets floating around that they'll never get to use?

If so, post em. I wanna hear.

>>50710113
How, explain how +4 to knowledge checks for a feat is even a good choice?

Does anyone have that ranged Harbinger homebrew?

>>50710134
If you have Orator, then it is also to social skills. And to UMD with Pragmatic Activator. Which makes Cha even more useless than it already is.

>>50710100

What about all the other ascended gods, like Norgorber, Razmir, Iomedae or Cayden Cailean? They aren't nearly as prone to going against the grain with their people.

She's an NG Goddess of Redemption and Mercy, and her reaction to rejection is to strangle the entire country to death. This is like... The Plagues of Egypt, only without the Hebrews or high-level Oracle.

>>50710146
>Razmir
>ascended god
>laughingSivanah.webm

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>>50710134
>Craft
>all Knowledges
>Linguistics (hello Orator)
>Spellcraft

This is before the Int swaps. You have some for Bluff, Diplomacy, USE MAGIC DEVICE...

>>50710119

You're having trouble because it's a flawed concept from the onset; flesh-eating in tribal societies is seen as either an incredible honor (absorbing your kin's strength and memory) or an act of total domination to your foes (eating their flesh to gain their powers.) What you've made is a character built entirely around what is meant to be a sacred, special thing, a thing your character would do in some dark and dismal night after slaying a major BBEG or after losing a beloved PC.

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>>50710146

That is what happens when you drift from your fathers light

>>50710164
>>Linguistics (hello Orator)
Hello two fucking feats to do someone else job.

Linguistics barely fucking comes up.

>>50710146
They still have their human perspective mixed with their godness.

So she is a goddess of mercy and redemption. But she even before the accident she was known for going full executioner on you if you in the end forsake her promise of mercy.

What happened there was her merely snapping like usual, but in unprecedented scale. And it probably shocked the goddess too, when she finally came down from her fit of anger.

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>>50710146
>Skinsaw Cult
>not a god
>DOOT
>A LITERAL DRUNK

And don't forget Aroden "Dead As A Doornail" Nolastname!

Rolling for stats is still the best way to create characters.

>>50709993
shut up wayne, you fucking suck at art.

Rolled 5, 3, 1, 6, 1, 4, 2, 1, 6, 6, 3, 2, 5, 6, 3, 4, 6, 5, 4, 1, 3, 6, 1, 4 = 88 (24d6)

>>50710211

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>>50710211

>>50710195
Is it possible to use Spheres to make a "totally not a Stand User" magic tradition?

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>>50710127
I have way more fucking characters then I can even remember offhand, but

>A Warlock Vigilante that is convinced they're THE BEST, and that clearly they are superior to everyone else. Literally just a male version of pic-related
>A magus who wanted to be a paladin, but got kicked out because he was a loose cannon
>A Mercurial Duelist Vigilante at all tfw too broke to afford the book its in, and forgot about it when drunk santa anon was asking what books to buy
>A Skinwalker Sanctified Slayer Inquisitor that used to be a town guard's "attack dog"

>>50710211
Rolling characters is fun in some systems, but this is not that system. At least not without generous rolling criteria.

>>50710145
Okay that has nothing to do with +4 to knowledge checks. All that stuff makes charisma useless without that obidiance, the obidiance existing does not devalue cha at all it has no baring on it, it's a bad feat unless you are using it as a prerequisite for other stuff.

>>50710217
14, 7, 15, 15, 15, 13
I hope the DM tells me what class to play next.

>>50710181

But doesn't it also work? Like she might know the basics of it, but has a fundamental misunderstanding of how it "Should" be. It should be the ultimate respect for your fallen friends and family, or ultimate domination of your foes.

She simply sees it as an avenue of gaining more strength and power. "You lost to me, and thus you must give your strength to me." And while it's worked to a great degree for her, its a corrupted and evil thing.

Rolled 6, 5, 1, 1, 6, 4, 6, 5, 3, 2, 1, 5, 6, 4, 1, 5, 5, 2, 1, 2, 1, 4, 2, 3 = 81 (24d6)

>>50710217
>try to roll as well
>options menu eats my roll and doesn't spit out a number

>>50710184
You spend two feats to get three skills in one. Also, one of these feats boosts it by +3. If you are a wizard or something you are not feat starved.

>>50710184
>Hello two fucking feats to do someone else job.

Do someone else's job with a "hahahaha, fuck you, mine is way higher" bonus.

>tfw you eventually find yourself playing skillmonkeys/non-combat casters because combat is boring and roleplaying is fun

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>>50710239
It's +4 to ALL Intelligence-based skill checks.

>>50710237
>At least not without generous rolling criteria.

2d6+6?

>>50710264
> If you are a wizard or something you are not feat starved.
[NERVOUS LAUGHTER]

>>50710253
That's 12, 17, 10, 15, 9, 9.

>>50710280
I would play with that.

>>50710239
Knowledge AND Spellcraft. And Craft. That obedience alone doesn't make Cha useless, it just spits in its already bukkaked face.

>>50710211
Lies.

>>50710183
>believing Satan
>ever
>when he can't even reconquer Colonial America, Vive Le Revolution, and the Bearded Byzantine Buffoons for you

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>>50710237
I don't think the playtest version is too different from the final version for mercurial duelist, so you should be overall solid there. Maybe a few new talents, some name shifting, and a sweet NPC, but nothing major.

>>50710297
>when he can't even reconquer Colonial America, Vive Le Revolution, and the Bearded Byzantine Buffoons for you
Hey, it's hard to find good help these days. Minions are incompetent.

>>50710282
So which feats will you miss if you are a human wizard?

>>50710252

Okay, so she knows enough about the magic behind eating her enemies... But doesn't understand the context nor significance behind surface-level knowledge that it gives her power? How did she even get such a warped and twisted view of such a sacred thing without anyone correcting her? Either she's monstrous and doesn't care, or she's a genuine cannibal that loves the taste of humanoid meat sliding deep down her throat, and observers brave enough (or mad enough) to stick around told her the cultural importance of flesh eating.

This is a woman that's going to either reveal her monstrous nature or have a huge crisis of self when a genuine Shoanti tells her how wrong she is in this activity, and let's not forget the mayor of Sandpoint is a Shoanti. What she's doing is WRONG.

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>>50710297

At least he doesnt die like a bitch like all the other human gods.

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>>50710237

>>50710127 here,
are you me? magus, inquisitor, and vigilante are my three favorite classes.
>Heretic inquisitor who goes out of his way to solve conflicts through words and subterfuge rather than combat, despite being a renowned swordsman in his time
>Bladebound magus who's constantly arguing with his sword, which carries the soul of his dead childhood friend who he's trying to resurrect.

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>>50709273
That is correct, little one. Your allegiance should be with a less tacky reflection of your material world.

The Plane of Shadow beckons.

>>50710318

Sheriff of Sandpoint, not mayor. Sorry, phoneposting tends to create awkward grammar n' such.

>>50710315
Spell Focus
Greater Spell Focus
Spell Penetration
Greater Spell Penetration
Empower Spell
Maximize Spell
Elemental Spell
Dazing Spell
Spell Specialization.

>>50710273
Even with that is it worth a feat? How often do you make int skill checks? And how often are they critical? If you are int based you can spend that feat much better, it is a skill that is much better for a cha or wis based character who has lower int, a level one int based character would have 9 for putting one point into an int based skill assuming they start with 20 int, a Wis based with 12 int would have 5, the feat boosts the int based to 13, you were already making those int checks with a 9, the Wis based goes to 9 which is a huge boost from 5 and will show a noticeable difference.

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>>50710253
>>50710285
>12, 17, 10, 15, 9, 9
>it's going to be another dex/int-based skill monkey episode

>>50710271
>mfw you can't stop making skillmonkeys, even when you try to make combat-focued characters
>mfw it's always Dex/int-based characters no matter how hard you try to break away
>mfw I made a Str/Cha Lunar oracle because I bought into the Oracle memes
>mfw mediocre at using a sword, no action economy or skills, and the realization that I am massively outperformed by my fucking tiger companion

>>50710312
I was mostly just hoping to have drunk santa anon buy it for me, so at least someone would have thrown money at you folks.

>>50710271

But anon, when I'm not fightan I like to roleplay too!

>>50710315
Item crafting, metamagic (assuming your gm is sane and does not allow sacred geometry), spell focus, false focus or eschew materials.

>>50710318

Well she learned that it was a thing when she was three, her tribe was killed when she was 4. And she started experimenting with it immedately afterwords.

She gets picked up by Shalelu after The girl is found spit roasting three or four goblins that had been attacking caravans at the age of seven.

By the time of the game start, she's 19.

In addition she views that the "Eating of Strength" also applies to animals, So she also goes after wildlife. Especially dangerous wild life, like bears.

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>>50710353
It's all good, I'm just glad people are liking my stuff. I appreciate all the feedback I get here.

>>50710342
You get Spell Focus and Skill Focus at 1st, then Orator at 3rd, Fey Obedience and Augumented Summoning/metamagic at 5th and then whatever you want. It's not optimal but if you want, you can be a wizard face. Cheaper way to do that is picking trait swaps.

>>50710318

>loves the taste of humanoid meat sliding deep down her throat

That describes most of the women applying for that campaign, anon! And maybe some of the men!

>>50710387
>She gets picked up by Shalelu after The girl is found spit roasting three or four goblins that had been attacking caravans at the age of seven.

Is this bitch goku?

Is there a way of making a casty monk (qiggong like), arcane if possible, with access to medium armors?

>>50710406
All the dudes are straight except for the Blinkling and the teleporting thief.

>>50710330
the magus one sounds very fun, especially from a roleplaying perspective.

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>mfw the RotJR party is all LITERAL ANIMALS

>>50710422
Excuse me, Ceri isn't gay. In fact, I didn't even think about what his preference would be. Too pure for that.

>>50710422
That's quite incorrect anon!

>>50710330
>Trusting the black blade.
It is lieing to you.

>>50710406

Only Amalthea, Onryou, Zeldana and that Jel-slut seem like the types who'd like that, anon.

>>50710461

>not giving in completely to the black blade, trusting your only friend in the world, keeping him warm and safe and always remembering that you are nothing without him

Anon, pls.

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>>50710330
6th casters are my jam, and Vigilante is baller as fuck. The only time I really even pay attention to full BaB or fullcasters is when theorycrafting gestalts, or doing super niche shit. Had the Ravener Inquisitor been out when I made that Oracle, I probably would have just begged my GM to let me make it entirely Cha-based and played that instead of an Oracle.

I also have like, 5 Magi in the pipe, none of which I have gotten to play because either
>dude we don't need another damage dealer, play a tank
>dude magi are op, I saw one do 12d6+12 at level 5 once
>dude it's a level 1 start and we won't be leveling for weeks

I still like the idea of a yokai kitsune who was awakened by his bound blade, but unfortunately that would mean playing a kitsune.

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>>50710461
>>50710428
That character's at the top of my list of sheets to use in future campaigns.

The dynamic between him and the sword is actually pretty fun, the sword is actually the more cool-headed of the two.

>magus has frequent impatient outbursts at the rest of the party
>interrupts himself halfway through a sentence
>changes his tune at the behest of another personality the party has no idea exists

>>50710480

Youkai Kitsune are legit, just indulge yourself on the old folklore without any of that weebshit.

>>50710466
Amalthea dislikes Oral, If it doesnt make kids, what's the point? And Onryou is such a hopeless virgin she probably doesn't even know that oral is an option.

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>>50710480

Who knows? You might have a lot of fun with it if you tried.

>>50710489
>Resurrect the soul in the sword
>It is a bound ancient evil preying on a young fool keeping him alive for its own goals.

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>>50710443
>>50710502
>tfw your joke post spirals out of control

I didn't say I wasn't going to, just that it's unfortunate.

>>50710494

Amalthea is way too single-minded about getting the good stuff in her oven, doesn't she know anything about luring the man in? If she's already pregnant or knows the man will be up for another round later that week or even later that day, there's no reason she shouldn't know a thing or two about finishing them with the rest of her body.

Plus, Onryou's Oni-blood probably flares to life in moments of passion, which means she'd be an innocent virgin up until the foreplay starts, and then it's time to grab her horns and give it to her.

>>50710514
I did leave it ambiguous as to whether or not the soul in the sword is actually his pal's. He brought SOMEONE back from beyond the barrier, that's for sure.

>>50710532

What are some of the lesser used LITERAL ANIMALS in Pathfinder, anyway? Everyone knows about the Kitsune or Witchwolves, but what about Coldborn or Grippli or even Boggards?

Those fucking Boggards in Kingmaker!

>>50710532
My post was just in relation to the fact that there are now 4 kitsune in the character discussion thread, two male, two female, and with a diverse set of classes and personalities.

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>>50710476
>So close to the truth, yet so far. Your mind alone is not gift enough.

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>>50710573

>>50710541

Amalthea knows That up untill your water breaks, vaginal sex is perfectly healthy and can help with contractions.

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>>50710570
I know, anon, I'm one of those. I'm referring to the Literal Animal posting. I was the one who brought it up the first time.

What are some tips for finding IRL groups to play in? I'm sure I could do online but I prefer human interaction elements too. I'm trying to get more experience since dropping out of the last campaign I was in with some friends. Thanks.

>>50710566

Well, you might see some adlets up north, or on a different planet.

>>50710345
>How often do you make int skill checks?

A lot.

Especially if you've got Intelligence swaps.

>>50710619
Goto your lgs look for their posting boards, look for anything that is recruiting, talk to people at your lgs and make friends.

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>>50710146
Where is it confirmed that Sarenrae is the cause of the plagues and the desert spreading? I really, really want this to be canon so I can run a mythical campaign where the players are justified in killing Sarenrae.

>>50710422

Wanna know a secret, anon?

Ferandru's sexually attracted to men and women with a slight preference to women, but romantically prefers other men.

>>50710701
...so he's just Iron Bull?

>>50710701
So he's a fruit. Got it.

>>50710710

Who?

>>50710698
Why Sanranrae out of all the other gods?

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>>50710720
The Iron Bull, Qunari from Dragon Age: Inquisition. He's one of the bisexual romance options.

>>50710720

Big, beefy guy with horns. Likes killing dragons maybe a little too much.

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>>50710286
Charisma has Leadership AND ghost syrup.

>>50710755
>>50710763

Oh, huh. Never played DA:I; I was too dissappointed in DA2 to really bother. I suppose a little bit, then; though Ferandru's not STRICTLY all about killing dragons, he'd be down if it gave a good fight. And people were watching--what's the point of fighting if no one's going to tell the tale afterwards?

I'm just starting to get into PoW, can somebody explain what discipline weapons are about? As far as I can tell you don't need to use a discipline weapon to initiate a strike and don't gain any bonuses for using a discipline weapon.

>>50710739
Because she's supposed to be the ultra-hyper-stereotypically good goddess. Every setting has one and it funny if you can find legitimate reason to kill them.

>>50710791
Using a discipline weapon boosts the save DCs of your strikes by 2, and some disciplines, like Broken Blade, Solar Wind, and Piercing Thunder, need you to be using the weapon to work.

>>50710593

Anon, I get the feeling people are kind of annoyed by your characters because they're way too laser-focused on their kink, or at least with how you talk about them.

Like, I WANT to like Amalthea, I WANT to like Onryou, heck I even want to like this new girl. They've got neat concepts beneath the kink, and yet besides Onryou the kink smudges up the concept way too much.

Vessel for godliness? Sounds cool, and her being hyper-voluptuous fits the theme. But now she's about getting stuffed all the time and only taking it in ways that might knock her up and - okay we get it, she's a fertility character, every woman likes a little finishing inside but she'd know that she needs to snare her man with more than just a tight babymaker.

Same with this new girl, she eats people and is huge, but whenever we try to expand her perception on it or how to make her only do it against appropriate foes you just try to bend it back to how she eats everyone, all the time, because power.

>>50710785
Not the anon you were responding to. That's pretty much the Iron Bull's mindset too. He's good at fighting and lying, in that order, and he's proud of both. He likes fighting, and although garnering too much attention can potentially interfere with some aspects of his job as a spy and assassin, he likes being in the spotlight.

>>50710119
Watch yourself some Toriko.

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>>50710394
Hey Jolly, now that I think about it, how did the Anima Blade's automatic scaling interact with the Mercurial Duelist's ability to add enhancement bonuses and such to their heirloom weapon? Unless that talent got canned in a later iteration, it's not really clear how you'd price it. Did you treat the Anima's scaling +1's as a floating bonus that's added after the fact, then pay the cost of upgrading as though it were an unenhanced masterwork weapon?

Like
>Your Anima is a +1 weapon, but you never enhanced it with your Ancestral Weapon feature
>you sit down and pay 8000 gp in order to add +1 and Keen to your Anima blade
>the anima blade's scaling +1 is not counted, and is added after the fact
>you now have a +2 Keen Anima Blade

>>50710821
Cool, thanks for the knowledge anon.

>>50710840

I forgot to add the point of this post, a problem with phoneposting at work perhaps, but you need to take the thing that makes your character lewd and just... Put it in a corner while you do the rest of the character. You did this for Onryou and we love her for it, why? Because she's a badass dojo-buster that loves to cook and oh yeah, she happens to have firm H-cups and an adorably virginal outlook on sex.

Do that for Amalthea and this people eater, and I guarantee the perceptions of them will improve.

>>50710046
>implying Paizo writers understand how alignment works
Need I remind you of the trumpets?

I think you all need to know that someone in the RotJR IRC is trying to find the highest possible number of Magical Tail feats one build can possibly have. So far they're at 29.

>>50710840
Actually i wasn't that anon... that was fukkin stupid.

>>50710840
>>50710318
Also, he had a REALLY good point. and its a fantastic RP oppertunity, if A shoanti decided to educate her on the specifics of what is supposed to take place and what she's actually doing.

I think it'd be fantastic to RP that out.

>>50710894
Except you can only get 9 tails maximum and after that can no longer take the feats. They're looking at a hypothetical "how many instances of the feat could you have if it had no limit" at worst.

Also, fuck off with your dragging shit from the IRC, didn't the main channel have a rule against that?

>>50710867
There are some more details about it, like how Piercing Thunder works with Polearms and how there's a feat that allows you to use Solar Wind boosts (normally reserved for ranged weapons) with Mithral Current strikes, but the basics are that most disciplines get a bonus for using a discipline weapon, some require you to use one.

>>50710119
NO STOP

THIS IS GROSS, I WAS EATING, WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS DUDE

PEOPLE AREN'T SERIOUS ABOUT THIS SHIT, ARE THEY?

>>50710919
The new Sorcerer archetype lifts that restriction.

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>>50710925

Some people take killing and eating monsters VERY seriously.

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>>50710930
You can still only get 9 tails, anything after that just adds additional uses to the SLAs.

>they don't make fall damage gimmick builds

It's like you hate fun.

>teleporting enemies or object hundreds of feet in the sky just to drop them onto the ground or other enemies
>using boots of the cat to reduce my own fall damage when teleporting myself hundreds of feet up to slam my big Dwarven ass onto the enemy

>>50710943
The archetype doesn't actually say you don't gain additional tails. RAI is clear, but so is RAW.

>>50710938

Really The cannibalism part Small part of THIS. This is a woman that wants to hunt down dragons because Dragons are strong creatures.

>>50710701
Was he taught, perhaps while training, that this was natural and would help you fight better alongside your teammates?

...I'd suggest where an influential coach in his life might have been from, but can't remember the name of Pathfinder's Not-Greece.

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>>50710938
BUT SO MANY OF THOSE THINGS HAVE MORE THAN 2 INT

NO

>>50710960
Don't eat a dragon, that's a smart creature. Iunno why it bugs me so much.

>>50710971

IF it didn't want to be eaten, why is it so huge and delicious?

>>50710971
But the dwarf told me to cook the damn thing, and when the birds told me he was going to kill me...well, it'd be a shame to let all that meat go to waste, right?

>>50710971
is it evil to eat intelligent being you did not know was intelligent

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>>50710864
Your example is correct.

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>>50710978
>>50710986
NO

>>50710990
If you don't know so much about a creature, you probably don't know if it's safe to butcher and eat!

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>>50710971
>>50711015

VERY SERIOUSLY.

>>50711015
>>50711036

But my religion requries it!

Also what if its only evil dragons?

The character in question is Neutral

>>50710966

Possibly so, by one coach or another; though the most influential coach in his life is a linnorm-kings born tianese man who is basically jackie chan, if jackie chan worshipped cayden caillean.

>>50711015
You know people make armor and weapons out of dragonhide and dragonbone all the time, and their organs are vital parts of many arcane and alchemical rituals?

Why waste the meat when everything else is going to use?

>>50711063
Maybe a book then, or some ex-tag partner.
Maybe it was about Minkai or Shokuro rather than not-Greece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98djbKiv8g

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>>50711015

a dragon would eat you! You should eat it!

Its Eat or be Eaten!

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>>50711045
THEN YOU NEED TO BE PURGE BY TRUMPETTING AND RAGATHIAN RAGE FOR THE GOOD OF THIS WORLD!

>>50711077
That's not even remotely the same to me, somehow. Eating them is just... Iunno, urk. The thought sickens me.

>>50711104
A dragon that would eat me would usually be evil!

>>50711015
No love for Siegfried? It's not like Fafnir's the type who would have held it against him.

>>50709801
>be ready to be commissioned for extra official lewd art.
And you say you know some of these artists, right?

>>50710412
Bump?

>>50710231
>Is it possible to use Spheres to make a "totally not a Stand User" magic tradition?
Not certain what you mean here? SoP traditions start as pretty generic, so there aren't a lot of restrictions.

>>50711133

Anon, are you asking for people to go request smut from? Because I know a few.

Kumi-Pumi and Aka6 are pretty consistent in quality.

>>50711146
Sacred Fist Warpriest is probably the closest.

>>50709142
>Magdh's Fey Obedience

What's that?

>>50711194
+4 to Int based skills

>>50710904

I don't even know if you're calling me stupid, or the Amalthea-anon stupid, or whatever.

It really don't matter anywho, I'm just trying to say cannibal girl and pregnancy girl and any other sexual character needs to be more than just their 20 lbs of pussy and ass.

>>50711186
I'm just saying I wouldn't mind seeing Ameiko take more than one treasured sword
Particularly on JJ's dollar instead of mine

>>50711187
Not him but sacred fist isn't proficient with any armor and loses his monk features if he wears one.

>>50711226
DELETE THIS

>>50711219

i honestly don't see anything sexual with Cannibal girl. She's got a warped perception of the whole "Eat him to gain his strength" thing so that it applies to every living thing. I think that can work, i'd play with her.

Amalthea on the other hand is garbage.

>>50711186
Aka6 is consistently shit

>>50711290

Fix Kinect now

>>50711226
I want to see Ameiko mind broken for being such a bitch, but that's just me.

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>>50711331

>>50711362
what did he mean by this

>>50711354
What has she done that's all that bitchy anyway?

>>50710119
>>50710181
>>50710252
>>50710318

I'm willing to bet if this guy pitched this character ANYWHERE other than 4chan. No one would have batted and eye. Or at the very least wouldn't have suggested it was sexual in nature.

>>50711410
The thing is, by itself it wouldn't have been that bad, just like Onryou wasn't that bad. People are shitposting because the person's made half a dozen characters that are varying amounts of sexually explicit.

>>50711410
the player explicitly dives into the fetish nature of his stupid character ideas

try again later, swimmingeagle

>>50711446
People just really enjoy shitposting.

People shitpost about different characters here because we get no other exposure about them
It is hard to have other things to say when you are not part of the actual game

>>50711406

Nothing, by all accounts Ameiko is a friendly, genuinely good-natured young woman, quick with a jab and her trademark smirk, but she always tries to make sure everyone's having a good time.

Shes been described as a womanly Arya Stark, which is to say she's an Asian Lyanna Stark.

Everyone calls her bitchy because JJ has a hardon for her.

>>50711488
There isn't a game, people just shill their ideas here.

>>50711506
It is pre-game

>>50711459

Is it worth me doing a full autistic ramble on how Amalthea could be written as a compelling character while retaining her kinks?

>>50711410
It's also probably the fact that it's for a lewd campaign and all aspects of characters being discussed is being viewed through that lens.

>>50711529
Please, enlighten us. i'm curious on your thoughts

>>50711535
>>50711529
Literally it's the same characters being discussed every time and WHAT A COINCIDENCE it's the ones their creators won't shut up about.

I just want some fucking variety. Talk about anyone anyone else you think could be improved.

>>50710312
>pic
>Not Joshua

>>50711564
Foxes are already perfect anon.

>>50711488
Someone said there's now an entire party's worth of kitsune now. How would that even work out, in terms of character interactions, anyway?

>>50711586
They make a pro-kitsune party and wish to get enough seats into congress so they can propose anti-kitsune bullying legislation.

>>50711586

Several books' worth of pretending very hard to be human/elf/whatever, then one of them is forced to reveal themselves, the others follow suit, and they spend the rest of the adventure feeling very silly about it.

I kind of dislike the fact that Brewkeeper is locked behind CC worship. Would it be terrible of me to ask if I could do it for another god of alchemy or just an god of artifice?

>>50711622

"Wait a minute, you guys aren't human either!?"

>>50711630
Nope, you're having badwrongfun. Next thing you'll say is that maybe Paladins should be allowed to be something other than LG!

>>50711648
I honestly think Paladins should be restricted a bit, but to LN, NG, and LG. maybe CG.

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>>50711640

>>50711500
And yeah, it's kinda creepy, but I trust any GM to divorce the characters from the Paizo devs simply to make them not idiotic.

>>50711622
>>50711640
I was under the impression only one, maybe two, were even bothering to hide being nonhumans, actually. Pretty sure it was only the guys, while the 2-3 gals didn't give a shit.

>>50711648
>>50711664
Do not start this

>>50711564
Think any of the mostly-normal humans need improvement? Gallius, Omza, Rubio, Corwin, etc.?

>>50711586
The four are
1) Gil, a CG Magus||Stalker a glassmaker with a desire to be a hero,
2) Shanna, a CG Soulknife||Harbinger, a native of Sandpoint and friend of Shalelu,
3) Sanjo, a TN Bard||Croupier, a gambler and rogue with an 'honor among thieves' attitude,
4) Di, a LN Warder||Rogue, a former soldier seeking out the relatives of her fallen compatriots.

>>50711695
>>50711640
>>50711622
Gil hides his identity, but Shanna, Sanjo, and Di all wear the ears.

>>50711696
I was being facetious, anon. Go for it, it's dumb that most of the prestige classes are alignment locked anyway.

>>50711727
>>50711695
Also the split is 2/2, Gil and Sanjo guys, Shanna and Di girls. Also also, seems the guys are at least twice as old as the girls.

>>50711241
Just like most monks. The guy asked about playing a casty monk, so it kinda needs to be monk-ish.

>make old fat ugly character
>everyone hates him
>he's a nice guy who just wants to see the world a better place, sends money back to a orphanage he built
I don't understand, is it because he's ugly?

>>50711818
No, it's because you made a wizard.

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>>50711664
>>50711648
I never understood what's stopping the deities of other alignments from having paladins. Are they just content with clerics or something?

>>50711833
He's not even a wizard. He's an oracle.

>>50711727
>A dirty wild animal pretending to be a person, who's probably fathered a few litters over his lifetime
>A fox that thinks she's people, and is a child at heart
>A guttersnipe charletan of indeterminate age and questionable moral background
>A mascot animal that ascended to military commander somehow, and promptly fucked it up

That's a hell of a lineup you got there.

>>50711818
You didn't make a fetish.

>>50711834
LN and NG deities have paladins too you know

How did your last campaign end, /pfg/?

Mine ended with the party going into a city to investigate rumors of a blood mage getting access to multiple ley lines that met under it.... and we got fucking vaporized along with the whole city.

>>50711845
Oh, my mistake.

No, it's because you made an oracle.

>>50711869
I do. When I said "other alignments", I kinda meant alignments other than the ones that already have paladins.

>>50711880
What's wrong with oracles?

>>50711880
What's wrong with Oracle.

>>50711765
I think I must have been thi king of a character that didn't get posted for the third girl. There was a surge of kitsune, and I haven't really been keeping track of them.

>>50711887
Because ... paladins do not fit their religion?
I think I know what kind of answer you are looking for, but it is kinda obvious.
I would be more happy if they added a CG and LE only classes.

>>50711914
Alignment restrictions are cancer, period.

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>>50711861
DON'T BULLY FOXES!

>>50711552

Okay, hold onto your butts because this might get a little lackadaisical.

>Amalthea is born unto a Shoanti tribe
>Lovely girl, a bit impulsive and dim but strong as an ox, and an early bloomer too
>Sets out on her Rite of Adulthood, either this is when something freaky happens to her or it's immediately afterwards, when she's married to the Chieftain's son
>This also means she gets tattoos, which are crazy-hot if they're in the right places
>Five years later, she's still childless, everyone suspects treachery and the pair quietly separate
>Amalthea leaves the tribe, gradually becoming more and more haunted by dreams of Places of Power and desires to lay with men near them
>So begins a long string of husbands, boyfriends and lovers whom she fuggs near places she visits in her dreams, yet she never gets pregnant and the men shortly thereafter die
>She gets a reputation
>Nevertheless, she finds love in the arms of a man she truly cares about
>She visits a medicine woman, who explains that her womb was blessed by the gods as a nexus for mighty souls, but mighty souls need mighty seed laid within her at locations engulfed with divine energy (aka, she needs to fuck a noble-blooded man near a Place of Power to actually get pregnant)
>The medicine woman suggests she try brute forcing it, taking aphrodisiacs and praying to Lamashtu, the Great Mother, for aid
>Worst mistake of her life
>She gets pregnant, but the thing inside her comes out malformed and twisted, her husband leaves her and she is regarded as cursed
>Just as worse, she gets wracked by dreams of Lamashtan holy sites near a tiny town on the Lost Coast
>She is compelled to go to them, but the rare good dream says she will find her true love in that town, someone to give her the sons and daughters she now so desperately craves

The idea is to make her a Plaything of the Gods, someone with a very specific purpose in life but no idea as to what that purpose is.

>>50711905
I have anon. Haven't seen a third female kitsune around.

>>50711914
>LE only class
Tyrant Antipaladin

>CG only
Paladin of Freedom from 3.5e

Paladins being locked to LG always and forever seems dumb, since everyone always bitches about them being so rigid and "no-fun-allowed"-guys. Just unlock them to being "holy warriors of good" and make the Lawful bit a player decision.

>>50711914
I've always seen paladins as just more martial-oriented champions of their god compared to clerics, so I think paladins *can* fit. Though I guess that's mostly interpretation.

Really I just wish Antipaladins didn't suck so much by comparison.

>>50711929
I mean I wouldn't want a CE Paladin really.

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>>50711932

But if we don't, anon, who will?

>>50711953
There is a million ways to make "holy warriors of good"
Paladin is iconic and special

>>50711866
Tbh old fat men are someone's fetish

>>50711953
It is not the alignment's fault people misplay it

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>>50711833
Aight, ya' got a giggle out of me.

>>50711552
>>50711939

Basically, the phrase I think of when I want to think of her is "Gods are Bound by Rules, too." She can't just have gods with ANYONE, she needs to do it the *right* way, and since she's an Oracle and not a Cleric she has no way of contacting the powers-that-be to learn exactly what the fuck she needs to do to actually have children.

Another, far less sexual thing I'm trying to go for is Amalthea attempting to subvert her destiny, even if it ends in failure; she prays to Lamashtu to break the Rules, and unfortunately when you break the rules you tend to get punished or consumed by the powers that exist beyond the rules. She would feel a focus of power for Lamashtu in Sandpoint, one that if she destroys she has a chance to break free of Lamashtu's grip on her person... Only issue, when that happens she's back at Square One; find a nobleman and fall in love with him (which would be aided by divine help.)

Fortunately, it sounds like she's really gunning hard for Casimir, and he is a nobleman.

>>50711983

Old fat men are the staple of NTR, anon.

>>50711781
I'm the guy, I asked for a casty monk able to use medium armors, if wearing an armor renders me useless I don't consider that "using", so I'll ask again.

In the same style as Sohei, are there casty monks that can use, efficiently, without losing half of their features, medium armors?

>>50711932

Foxes deserve to get bullied, they're the tricksters of the animal kingdom and the only way to truly hurt a trickster is bully them!

>>50711953
>Paladins being locked to LG always and forever seems dumb, since everyone always bitches about them being so rigid and "no-fun-allowed"-guys
I think it's dumb because I want to be a paladin of a non-Good deity for once. For example a Oradin that later prestiges into Holy Vindicator but then has Demonic Obedience (Shax) for Life in Blood.

>>50711973
I mean, I see where you're going, and the iconic paladins have a place, but locking the class's mechanics behind a "LG only, with a creed that lends itself to assholes misinterpreting it" is not good design.

>>50712014
Sorry for missing that bit. You could try starting off as Sohei and multiclassing into Empyreal Sorcerer or some other WIS based caster I suppose.

>>50712014
I'd have to look if there's a druid archetype that specializes in fighting unarmed, but that might be good for your purposes.

>>50711967

No one!

No one deserves to get bullied!

>>50712021

>tfw you just want to worship Jiraviddain and be the evil healer the group relies on for everything

What gestalts well with oracle? That isnt a paladin?

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>>50711994
>>50711939

I certainly like your ideas. However the last time i suggested Lamastu, People hated Amalthea even worse than they hate her now. So, with respect, i'm going to ignore that.

THere's a few things here that i could really use. Such as the haunting of places of power and the "Black Widow" thing is already in place as every husband she's ever had has had a terrible fate befall them.

Except maybe her husband on Hermea, but after she was exiled there's no information about him. Probably got roasted or something.


All in all, This is pretty good. You're pretty good.

>>50712127
>>50712014
Ah, didn't notice you asked for arcane, not divine.

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So, would a character who doesn't actively worship their god, but instead simply lives by the ideals of her religion, and spreads their teachings through her actions, be considered a cleric?

There's no formal worship there, but she walks the walk in a way the god would probably like.

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>>50711932
>>50712128
See >>50711967
Just saying it how it is. What, are you upset that neither of your husbandos are pure, or that both of your waifus are practically children?

>>50712136
Antipaladin. Or Warlord, more realistically.

>>50712153
>neither of your husbandos are pure
>le used goods meme

>practically children
That describes most of the applicants. Shanna and Di are older than ALL of the humans.

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>>50712128

Even if it's done lovingly?

>>50712164
Neither of those help with healing.

>>50712153
Gamble never loses, of course he's still pure.

>>50712140
>Except maybe her husband on Hermea, but after she was exiled there's no information about him. Probably got roasted or something.

Let me respond with that with a question; what does Amalthea get for being from Hermea? A genetically perfect body? She could get that from being Shoanti, and the Shoanti are far more prone to getting accidentally stuffed with divine magic from the many powerful places they have throughout their lands.

And as I said, those tattoos are hardcore.

>However the last time i suggested Lamastu, People hated Amalthea even worse than they hate her now. So, with respect, i'm going to ignore that.

People hated Lamashtu because you said she was picked up by a cult and used as the cocksleeve of a couple monsters until she squirted out an abomination. This features the far more common, and far more insidious, method Lamashtu uses to corrupt people; she promises easy pregnancies and easy births, but in the process you only birth mistakes. This Lamashtan connection not only gives her a reason to go to Sandpoint, it gives her a reason to stop Nualia, as it means she's now free of Lamashtu's curse.

>>50712205
You didn't ask what helps with healing, you asked what gestalts well with oracle. SoP Soul Weaver?

>>50712140
>>50712210

Also, your Black Widow title is not really emphasized enough in her backstory; you want me to actually feel like she's a Black Widow? Spend a paragraph describing how she spent 10 years trying and failing to find a stable life with someone by her side, and how this made her more desperate and more lonely until she did the unthinkable; contacting the Mother of Monsters for aid.

>>50712128
DHB does. We might actually get him to commit suicide.

>>50712210

+2 initiative score.

Also she's ethnically Kellid, Her father was inducted into the Glorious Endeavor to add to the gene pool, And her father beseeched spirits of his tribe to grant his line "The Strength of the Divine". So the Mystical connection was from that. I was hoping i could get some tie into that when the party travels over the Crown of the World.

They hated the Lamastu connection even when i said they just captured her and escaped before they could do anything. Sorry i'm not putting that in there.

>>50712270
I can see where you coming from with the black widow portion needing more emphasis. I'll think up some more ideas around that. Maybe have ALL of her previous husbands die. Instead of one just run off when he found out she was pregnant, one dieing, and one we don't know about.

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>>50712194
>Shanna and Di are older than ALL of the humans
>what is age relative to lifespan

It's not about the husbandos being used goods, either. It's about where that experience comes from. Certainly ain't humanoid women for one.

>>50712207
First thought was this, desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Eogu6JzdtY

>>50710796
It's kind of stupid how many fucking 'do nonlethal damage with scimitars' things they've shoved into the game for her.

And scimitars? Really? How do you nonlethal with a scimitar and still be cutting?

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>>50712051
But it is good design because it enforces the fluff behind the decision.
Paladins are inhuman. A cleric is a servant, subservient to higher power. He is still a fellow man to you, he is afraid, he gets sick, he is afflicted by things that ask for saves. Paladin is not. Something has caused the paladin to ascend to a new level. The paladin still acts, talks, behaves human, but he is lacking that weakness we find human.

But even with this, you cannot help but be drawn to him. Why? Because the power of his alignment. He is, naturally, a beacon of hope. He helps other out of genuine compassion. You, a being of weaker alignment, are drawn to this creature of pure alignment. Paladin is tapping to power that is not gods, but the power gods themselves to tap directly. Hell, high level paladins are outsiders.

I personally want this kind of idea preserved. Some classes should be very tight packages and not just class abilities to be picked at leisure.

>>50710443
Does a spider count?

>>50712150
So ... how do you separate the two?
How did this person come to embrace these ideals the first place?

>>50712339
>what is age relative to lifespan
Something that doesn't matter past maturity, which is 50 for kitsune.
>that spoiler
>an all fox party would have all fox forms

>>50712327

>They hated the Lamastu connection even when i said they just captured her and escaped before they could do anything. Sorry i'm not putting that in there.

No offense, but that's entirely due to you emphasizing the risk of monster dick smashing into her when I'm fairly sure everyone here would be fine with her just contacting the Mother of Monsters for babymaking help - which is the most common reason people go to her, mind you! As I said before, it gives her a reason to be in Sandpoint and a legitimate interest in the plot of Book 1.

>+2 initiative score.

Outlander (Exile) is a trait exclusive to Rise of the Runelords and it also gives you a +2 Initiative Score, it's literally the same thing.

>So the Mystical connection was from that. I was hoping i could get some tie into that when the party travels over the Crown of the World.

Fair enough, I'm saying the mystical connection could also be from being near a Place of Power when she had her first menstrual cycle or something equally fitting. I'm emphasizing the Shoanti because they're simply more common in Varisia and doing the Hermean route is a LITTLE bit more awkward. Sure, keep the Hermean connection if you really want it, I'm just throwing ideas out there.

>Instead of one just run off when he found out she was pregnant, one dieing, and one we don't know about.

Indeed, emphasize how all of them met grisly deaths as soon as they pumped their seed in your woman - heck, I'd suggest giving her TWENTY former lovers, if not more. She's a very, very lovely woman with an eager need to be with someone, she should be burning through men until the men simply aren't coming anymore.

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>>50712365
Fair enough, I suppose. Although technically they still have the humanoid type. Somehow.

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>>50712389

I loved that doujin!

>>50712194
Who actually IS the youngest character thus far anyway?

>>50712433

I'm making an 18 year old, if that matters!

>>50712403
Yeah, they should probably be fey with the shapechanger subtype.

>>50712433
No idea. I was actually going to go through and add that to the list.

>>50712136
For healing purposes nothing really comes to mind. If you play Black-Blooded or have something else that allows negative energy to heal you then Antipaladin sorta helps (though unless your DM approves you can't use Hand of Corruption to swift-heal yourself). But that would make yourself vulnerable to positive energy then so it's hardly a proper equivalent. There aren't really any other Charisma casters that excel at healing. I know some people mix/match Warpriest and Shaman (or some other WIS caster like Druid or Cleric) for a pseudo-Oradin, but it's not quite the same.

>>50712413
Old ladies are the smuggest.

So is there a way to search spells by duration?

I am looking because I shall be playing a Mythic Wizard with Mythic Extend Spell. With this I can make 24 hour spells castable once every 3 days (like endure elements), day/level spells last weeks, hour/level spells last all day, etc.

I really like extend spell.

>>50712438
>>50712442
I know the spider is 17.

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>>50712459

What about old fox ladies?

>>50712433
So my goblin is 13.

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>>50712349
>Paladins are inhuman
Then Lamashtu should have some.

>>50712472

Fox smugness^Old lady smugness.

>>50712461
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/tools/advanced-spell-search

Behold the Advanced Spell Search

>>50712480
What's that in human years?

>>50712472
Foxes are assholes, so extra smug. Not as smug as the old lady Crow from a bit back, none can outdo birds in smug.

>>50712487
But she has Antipaladins!

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>>50712487

>mfw her snout kind of looks like a penis.

>>50712487
dogfuckers pls leave

Are Dervish Defender and Zweihander Sentinel compatible?

>>50712503

The first side-channel encounter in HV is going to be one of the women fucking a large fiendish wolf, anon.

>>50712349
>Paladins are inhuman
GOOD EVENING CITIZEN! I AM HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE GLORIOUS BEAUTy AND PHYSICAL PERFECTION OF KURGESS!!

>>50712492
>What's that in human years?
13, he's 13 in Human Years. Or do you mean in goblin years?

>>50712492
>Behold the Advanced Spell Search
Neat.

>>50712349
The thing about immunity to fear is that the Paladin isn't necessarily immune to FEELING fear. It just doesn't impede him.

Like how Space Marines 'know no fear'. They still do, it just doesn't affect them.

Every race but the Orks has a fear of death due to The Grim Fucking Reaper mindfucking proto-life into it. Orks came later, so they don't give a shit.

>>50712514
Why the fuck would you do that?

>>50712400

You've been great anon!

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>>50712515
*reclaims internally*

>>50712526
So... For a human, 17 years old is 24% roughly towards venerable.

For a goblin, 13 is 32% on their way to venerable.

So on the 'percentage of life lived', the goblin is 'older'

Unless I fucked my math but I don't think I did.

>>50712536
There is no real difference when perceived externally.
They see a man who knows no fear. This breeds both fear and admiration in his lessers.

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>>50712552

All I've ever wanted to do is help people, anon. Do what you wish to adjust Amalthea and I'll be rooting for her come January.

>>50712496
That's not enough. Shit's inhuman? It's going in the sack!

What made paizo decide to make Smite Evil so much hilariously better than what it was in 3.5?

>>50712595
>They see a man who knows no fear. This breeds both fear and admiration in his lessers
I don't see how only good people can do this. What's stopping evil people from inspiring their lessers so?

>>50712595
But it can. They may still express fear. Fear is what keeps you alive. Fear is what makes us push back against oblivion with all our hearts and minds.

Courage is not a lack of fear, but the ability to carry on despite it.

>>50712349
See, the thing about that is there's already shit that steals mechanics from Paladin, and Pathfinder's only saving grace anymore is >options. Paladin itself already has ways to lighten the alignment restriction, even if those archetypes are total dogshit that gut the class down to barely being paladins. It's less "this class shouldn't have a restriction" at this point, and more "there should options". Chosen One would have been a good way to have an archetype that's outside the norm for Paladins, because its fluff is literally "some shmuck got picked as a champion of good".

Hell, its inverse class isn't even restricted by alignment anymore, because Tyrant and Insinuator are both about as good as base Antipaladin.