40k Feels

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Space Marines looking after children is best head cannon.

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Even Kriegers need gratitude.

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>40k feels
Like, the feel when no primarch husbando?

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>>50688143
>tfw Curze is dead
>tfw You'll never be in midnight clad with him
>tfw you will never flay those that betray the Emperor

J-Just f-fuck my shit up, senpai

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>>50688023

>>50688211
Stay the fuck away from my husbando you filthy loyalist piece of shit.

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>>50687998
Terminators helping the little ones is cute as hell

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All I ever wanted in life was to see Angron happy, content and calm

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>>50688246
Being Angeron is suffering.

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>>50688627

>>50688627

Incoming ramble.
I like to think that these dudes are slaneshii, and that their particular focus is love,, lust, devotion and what not. they worship eachother in every aspect, and through that whole hearted and interchangably mindful/mindless adoration they worship she who thirsts.

It is a high, a warmth that can turn you molten in battle and in soul. And when their bonded are torn from them, they feel a different intensity, one that shatters them and leaves them to rebuild or die off. They are encouraged to explore this, to exalt in it in their own ways. The cult does not have many spacemarines, As they have already become jaded, or have trouble connecting to others in way beyond Battle brotherhood, But those who do lead the cult are empath psyckers, Carefully feeding their own highs by skimming off of the intense emotional connections, and in battle, as those emotional links are shattered, that burst of emotion allows them to power up their attacks, Leading to a twisted dance of using their bonded cultists and brothers tactically, both as combat units and power boosters.

The mind games that it'd take to keep this going for a long time could be tzeentch in aspect.

>>50688996
They are in fact Slaaneshi. Just look at their marks.

If I recall correctly, the artist was trying to demonstrate the loss of a couple of lovers torn apart by war

>>50689092
Thought so. Also, Less torn apart, more burned apart.

Anyways, I think I'm gonna have that cult in my next game. I made them up on the spot, I might as well see if the idea gets me somewhere.

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>In truth there are many
Lamenters too good for this Imperium. Too pure

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>>50688996
>I like to think that these dudes are slaneshii, and that their particular focus is love,, lust, devotion and what not. they worship eachother in every aspect, and through that whole hearted and interchangably mindful/mindless adoration they worship she who thirsts.
That's actually a pretty interesting idea for a Slaanesh cult. It's valid too since Slaanesh is all about excess of anything

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>>50689117
Commorrite degenerate here, just want to say you Lamenter mon-keighs are pretty gutsy.

>>50689131
of course, it would be a mix of healthy and very very unhealthy relationships, probably all at the same time. All the facets of what we understand love to be as an emotional high taken to the max. Manipulation, back stabbing, trust and forgiveness, all sort of... wontonly mixed and meshed as they struggle through a silly amount of politalking internally.

They might have a couple of shisms:

a few over mono-love, poly-love and all the variants therein when one considers gender roles like polyandry and polygamy. the discourse on powering energy into a mutually absorbed duo or trifecta, or spreading your love around to as many as possible and existing in a state of benign neglect most of the time with most partners, only to clash into each-other when the time calls for it, as eager and energetic as any other pair could possibly be, only to move on afterwards along the respective social-orbits, perhaps longing for then next time they cross paths, perhaps already looking forward to the next partner. New relationship Energy is a concept worth looking into in regards to this.

Another Schism could be the artificial use of neurochemicals instrumental to emotional bonding and love. Some see it as a hunt for exess in the name of their god/ess, Others see it as the cowards way in, And that any worship it creates is hollow and half hearted, for the partakers did not truly work for those critical moments, and their relationships are all the more brittle for it.

Anyways, I like the idea of cults of the chaos gods purposefully limiting their worship, Specializing it, turning it from a wide ray-blast into a focused laser of intention and emotion. Particularly long lived Cultists of this type may slip from one laser-focus to the next, or go from Ray to beam, beam to ray and back and forth as they explore and weasel out the nuances of the warp. Of course, they never really realize that those nuances are reflection off infinitesimal ripples in the immaterium,

>>50689117
>>50689207

The marine in the ops a Blood Angel

>>50689543
'no'

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Read in pic related

Yesugei's goodbye to his 3 closest companions (Jaghatai, Arvida, Illya)

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Always cracks me up, that they won't do awesome stuff like it. Or even very well done, quality stuff, like Bloodquest.

In grim derp of 40k there are only edgy manchildren.

>>50689609
Is this a good intro book to HH white scars?

>>50689609
Path of Heaven was so good.

>High up in the terraces overlooking the command throne, one hundred and thirty two power weapons kindled, flooding the heights with a wave of neon-blue. One hundred and thirty-two storm shields slammed into place, and one hundred and thirty-two throats opened in battle challenge.

>"Khagan" they roared, in perfect unison.

I love watching gutsy last stands, and that was one of my favorites.

>>50689742
Here's the reading order for White Scars in HH from top to bottom.

Brotherhood of the Storm (short story in Legacies of Betrayal)
Scars (novel)
Allegiance (short story in War Without End)
Daemonology (short story in War Without End)
Brotherhood of the Moon (short story in Eye of Terra)
Grey Talon (audio drama)
Path of Heaven (novel)

>>50689680
is that a hover APC? are those dudes sticking out windows in it? How ever that thing works it's fucking hilarious.

>>50689860
Thanks man. Havent read a WH book in 3 or so years so might just pick one up soon.

>>50689864
It has wheels.

Unlike your Tauroqs.

>>50689864
>he does not know the Redeemer

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>>50688246
The only thing he had was his word... and he couldn't even keep that.
Fuck the Emperor. Chaos ftw.

>>50689888
Technically, the whole plot thread starts with Thousand Sons, continues with Prospero Burns, and one short story in Age of Darkness before leading into Scars. But if all you care about is totally rad space Mongolian bikers, then everything I listed is fine. Except Daemonology now that I think about it, but it adds some exposition for Mortarion and how much of a hypocrite he is.

But yeah, Scars and Path of Heaven are some of the best HH out there in my opinion.

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>>50688246
Dude he probably had chill time, listening to music (from nuceria) playing sports (from Nuceria) cooking up old home recipes (FROM NUCERIA) remembering good old times (FROM WHEN HE WAS A SLAVE ON NUCERIA!) Playing tabletop games (THAT REMINDED HIM OF THE SLAUGHTER OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTER AT NUCERIA!!!)
Spending time with the Empe-(WHY DIDNT YOU SAVE HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY!!!!!)

>>50690002
Is this even 40k?

>>50690397
Hello anon my new friend
Enjoy the glory of Necromunda here
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/50315183/#50315183

>>50690397

It's the Best 40k.

Not the elite, but the madmen living under everything. Who cares about angelic heroes and world-destroying guns? You can have fun with a bunch of madmen in a forgotten factory.

After all, the universe is a big place, and you won't be missed.

>>50687961
Terranis Holds

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>>50688246
That actually hits me right in the feels.

>be abused and physically modified to constantly feel anger
>person who claims to have saved you in fact betrayed your friends to your abusers, and now forces you to fight in war for all eternity
>fall in with the wrong crowd and end up getting possessed by a god who consists solely of rage and hatred

Angron never knew happiness, except perhaps when he led his slave revolt. But even then the 40k universe/chaos gods/Emperor deny him the comfort of believing in an afterlife for them and himself.

>>50688750
saved

bump for more feeligns

>>50689117

Manly tears are shed every time I read it.

Lamenters are the only interesting loyalist Space Marines.

>>50688045
I can't read what it says in the corner.

>>50688211
>>50688237
Fuck off you skanks, he's mine.

Rolled 4, 4 = 8 (2d6)

>>50689023

4+ save for the Tau, 5+ flak for the kid, in that order, let's see if the Emperor protects

>>50694623
Thanks for reminding me of this reply.
I know what my Rogue Trader Christmas Episode is going to be about.

>>50694792

fug

>>50694792
So, uh, who lives?
I can't read dice...

>>50694946
The kid failed his armor save, the Tau didn't.

>>50694959
Aw man. Grimdark enough for me.

>>50690838
technically, he did feel happiness, it's just that the butchers nails made it so he only felt happiness when killing. I imagine that'd fuck up your mental development a fair bit.

>>50689609
I was in the bus, traveling for few hours, while listening to this audio book. When this momemt happend, my eyes filled with tears.

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>>50694216
It's a shame checkers are a pain in the dick to paint. They have the best battle cry though.

>For those we cherish, we die in glory!

>>50689117
I remember when I joined a bunch of /tg/ members on a minecraft server a while back. I forget what it was called but it was a 4chan faction server, joined a faction called the Lamenters. We built a monastery in the sky, built a bank vault and armoury through the central column leading into the earth, and in the end we were all killed by some weebs abusing the alliance system. Such is life for the Lamenters.

>>50695025

Sadly true. I have yet to see a well painted Lamenters pauldrons irl.

>>50690004
I wonder if there are any chaos sisters. They're not as incorruptible as the GK's, I don't think.

>>50688023
No they don't, that's kind of the point.

>>50688627
>Miss her not, child. Her soul goes to rest in the realm of chaos, and her faith shall empower our lord. Weep not for the fallen. They know the primordial truth better than the living ever could.

>>50694623
>little eldar girl wearing astartes sized ultramarine shirt
somebody, anybody, please draw this

>>50695340
That's a blanket, for her Wraithlord dad.

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>>50690435
thank you anon, for sharing this work of sheer awesome.

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>>50694792
>>50694959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lrl5Kj79u4
Sadness.

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>>50689680
Praise the scan anon.

>>50694638

>Implying the wounds are giving the feels.

>>50694746

Neither can I, I think part of it is "Penny" and the date.

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More feels for the feel god.

>>50695374
Oh right. Didn't read it all. I can still imagine it though.

>>50690838
Unless, of course, Khorne decided to be a bro for the first time in his life and send all of Angron's old comrades to his Daemon World.

>>50695598
i'm sure if he found their souls in the warp he would. Fighting against an enemy so much larger than yourself in single melee combat, while the enemy shoots at you and your leader has disappeared, out of pure "fuck you" spite? That's Khorne's bread, butter and jam. Not to mention they all had the butcher's nails anyway, so they'd fit in with his ideals even in the afterlife.

>>50695198
There's one canon one, and a ton she mind controlled into serving Chaos. And you know how 40k works. "The galaxy is so big that it happened SOMEWHERE."

>>50688023
And then the commissar executed them both

>>50695664
Such is life in Krieg.

>>50695655
Don't bullshit. There are tons of legit corrupted sisters. The Bloodtide sisters, the Daemonifuge sisters, that one sister that was corrupted by a genestealer.

In fact, the first Grey knight series novel, it's said that Sisters do in fact fall to Chaos but the sisterhood covers it up.

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>>50695720
>>50695655
>>50690004
>tfw you will never be dommed by a chaos sister of slaanesh.

+++ PIOUS DEVOTION IS TO BE RESERVED FOR THE GOD-EMPEROR +++

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>>50695832
there's as many feelings in your body as there are colours in the spectrum, little guardsman

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>>50695598

"I'm sorry for what I did to you, Brother." Lorgar said with the faintest trace of apprehension in his voice. "You must understand, what I turned you into, I did it yo save your life. Now you are more powerful than you could have ever imagined." Lorgar continued. He worried that his actions would be seen as a betrayal of his brother. In the same way the Emperor stealing his honorable death had been.
Yet there was no anger on the daemon's face A strange look of contentment on its inhuman shape. The burning eyes closed for a moment. The large red boney finger rested on Lorgars shoulder. Angron spoke.
"The pain..." He groaned in a horrid gutteral speech. Not quite used to his new body. "I can't feel the pain anymore. My mind feels..." The primarch's mind wondered. He didn't know or understand the emotion he felt. Something entire foreign to him. The weight of everything he understood in the world vanished. Like feeling returning to a numb limb. It confused him, yet entreated him. "Free." The primarch cracked its lips into what could be described as a smile. "Is this happiness brother?"
Lorgar hesitated. Knowing that soon the god of blood would fill this void in his mind with hatred and anger once again. He embraced his brother, allowing him to live in the fantasy for a moment. To feel what was so common to other yet denied his entire life.
"Yes, brother. That is happiness"

>>50694638
What makes you think Evac is coming? Can't you tell by the heraldry, he's a Lamenter.. That's a dead tyranid on the background, and there's spores everywhere. Even if his enhanced body stops the bleeding, he's in no shape to leave... I have no doubt in my mind that his jump pack is out of fuel too...

No help is coming.

Nobody will survive.

He's going to be swarmed by a thousand tyranids, as he dumps his last bolter magazine into the horde in a grim defiance on behalf of that little girl.

>>50695851
So, like, seven?

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>>50695851
B-But they say the Emperor can watch me if I'm masturbating...

>>50695856
Angron and Lorgar are such unexpected bros. There aren't many closer relationships than saving each other's lives. Not many people would lift a titan for their brother.

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>>50695911
Don't be silly, little one, the Emperor can't watch you touch yourself
But I can...

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>>50695910
and all the shades and mixes inbetween

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>>50695939
The commissar warned about this !
Lust is sin ! If someone dare to masturbate then hel'll be shot !

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>>50695966
oh come on... what the commissar doesn't know won't hurt him...
besides... wouldn't the thrill of getting caught just make it... sexier.......

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>>50695911
>>50695939
>>50695966
>>50695993
I knew waging war on a deamon-infested world was a bad idea...
How do you even speak in our heads?! Sweet Emperor, where is our sanctionned psyker?!

>>50695720
I think there has only been one sister who willingly fell.

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>>50696059
Even psykers have gotta get their fuck on every once in a while.
And the psychic powers just let you feel more

>tfw Horus returns to his senses before having his soul destroyed
L-Luna Wolves forever /tg/.

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>>50696200
Oh, well... I guess, letting go from time to time isn't really heretical...

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>>50696263
oh certainly not. you were given these desires for a reason weren't you? Doesn't the emperor want humanity to propogate? And to do that you need to reproduce... Masturbation is just... putting off that desire, saving it for later. Really letting yourself go now is making sure you don't do it at a tactically disadvantageous time later.

>>50696532
The only desire a loyal citizen of the Imperium needs is one for righteousness. Begone, harlotspawn!

>>50695856
Is this from a novel?

>>50695950
That pic.

That's my headcanon about Chaos Warriors.

That even though they don't need eating, drinking and sleeping they still have those they care about and actual families.

The whole going South to pillage and burn? It's to not only punch Nortlanders, Middenheimers, Marienburgers and etc in order to appease to the Chaos Gods, but also to bring back the needed stuff that your wife and kids will need during difficult times.

But not all Chaos Warriors come back...

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>>50696532
I guess it's a good point...
Come, then, come inside my psyker mind !

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>>50696654
HNNNNNNG.

>>50696706
>warpfags can't even triface

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>>50688247
>desecrating manifestation of machine god.
disgusting heresy.

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>>50696615
No I just wrote it, just then. Something I always figured would happen between the two

>>50696804
not like they know that. who teaches the children of the imperium about the machine god on any planet that ain't mechanicus owned?

>>50696727
topkek

>>50696822
Better writing than most BL books. Good job.

>>50687971
Is this before or after he murders her and coats his armor in her blood?

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>no promises
>Hello, darkness, my old friend

>>50698994
i get that you're trying to make a reference to that awful piece of writing but your question has a fairly self evident answer.

>>50687961
>>50689117
>>50689207
>>50695025
F
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This is the right amount of heresy to confuse me.

I like my feelsy stuff to be canon, and I also like it when the big guy stand up for the little guy. so I chose the celestial Lions as the chapter for my space marines, the guys who have the most throbbing hate boner for the inquisition after they exterminatus'd a planet that the Lions had just won back from chaos, saving all of the civilian on it.
they got so mad that they went to holy terra to take the inquisitor to task for what he'd done

>>50695553
I seriously hope there is a follow up where by God's grace things work out for the little guy

>>50699653
there is.
right here:>>50694623

>>50695486
underated

>>50690004
There's one who willingly fell to Slaanesh. Only the one. She then corrupted the SoB force sent to kill her.

Miriael Sabathiel was her name I think. Don't think she has modermoderl or rules though.

>>50702889
Meant to link to
>>50695198

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>>50695046
Pottery

>>50687961
>>50689117
>>50689207
>>50695025
Anyone have the pic of the Lamenter giving some kids a ride on his shoulders?

>>50694792
For the Greater Good !

>>50699653
There is one I'll look for it

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>>50699653
>>50704747

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>>50695198
Generally, the rule is only one *willingly* chose Chaos. So you can feel free to have Sisters who were mind-controlled, Sisters who acquired some terrible artifact that twisted them, Sisters who slew a powerful demon but were forever tainted by its presence and became the very thing they swore to destroy, etc. etc.
It's basically a way of making them distinct from Grey Knights, who don't ever get corrupted ever, and Space Marines, who actually pose a very serious risk of falling to Chaos under the right conditions and so must be carefully watched.
I think it's good fluff. Best of both worlds, we can have evil nuns while keeping the good nuns special.

>>50697193
Thanks, though BL has now three times denied my submissions...

>>50705408
Probably because it's too pro-Imperial and hopeful which isn't 40K. You need to grimdark a bit.

>>50705429
that and I sent in an IG novel MISTAKE 1
That isn't 100% action MISTAKE 2
and is more Generation kill and what actually goes on in long deployments MISTAKE 3
That way when people die in droves you feel actually attached to the characters instead of faceless mooks MISTAKE 4

I never had a fucking chance. Still fingers crossed on my other works

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>>50690435
Thanks bro!

Have some 40k humour! Pirate Orks are always funny.

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>>50705408
>>50705465
I think the first thing you have to prove to them and prove *hard* is:
>You know the setting
>You know how to write action

That's it. You're still supposed to pack in character arcs and a little depth, but they're genuinely serious when they say they want five explosions in two paragraphs.
Which is why it feels so weird when they reject what might be genuinely good writing in favor of "HONOR OF THE SPACE MARINES #3,122".
Give 'em pulp first, and maybe someday will get more "Eisenhorn".

>>50705465
>IG

?

They ask for marine stories in the admissions request. Usually Deathwatch. What are you doing, dude.

>>50705641
>>50705679
I KNOW..

Fuck I even tried presenting it as a more "nonfiction" story as if these events really occurred. Emphasising the humanity in the Imperial Guard so when they start dying it has that original impact of HOLY FUCK HOW WASTEFUL

The funny thing is I fucking HATE the saturation of shit marines dying in super numbers and being useless. I figured a long book of IG being tacticool would help build up how fucking holy and FUCK the Space Marines are, but naaaah

Jesus I stacked the house against me.

>>50705745
It's alright famalam.

The road to success is paved with mistakes.

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>>50705762
I just wanted to make the IG cool again...

But if I can get actual published work, BL is more likely to accept my shit knowing I can sell books. Almost done with my first novel, over 200k words in.

>>50705790
When you do finish it, I'd gladly give it a read. I'm sure other anons would as well.

>>50698994
His power weapon is powered up. So yes.

>>50705808
I need more proof readers. chapters 1-9 are in pdf for quick disemination

http://pastebin.com/YDHKgrkg
Here is also the unedited IG submission works as well.

I used to be a resident writefag on /tg/ back in the day. I juts love writin

Wait, one can submit stuff to the black library?

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>>50695887
"Brother, you have held fast and we have come for you".


"I recognize not your heraldry. I did not hear your coming, by Vox or ear. We expected no rescue, and in truth my life alone being saved is still nothing compared to what we have lost this day. You would have been better served to have cleansed this planet - if Brothers true you are. Think I do not see the taint of the warp on you? The flames that burn but do not cleanse? I am Loyal, and my only Brothers are those that fought beside me here, and those that will fight for the Emperor as I shall until my final breath. If you came to rescue me, you have wasted your time, and if you came to try and tempt me away for any prize even my life, you have wasted your life in turn for I shall take it from you."

"Brother, I say again, for Brothers we truly are under the light and love of the Emperor, we have come for you. Not as a rescue, for if you had not noticed your life is already done. Spent, and spent well fighting the foes of Man. But while your life is done, your duty is not yet. We have come for you, to ask you to join us in this holy duty that persists past death. To be consumed by these flames, that cleanse the soul not the flesh. To cast these flames upon the foes of the Imperium, not the clean and blessed light of His Will that protects, but his rage and hatred to be brought to the dark places where the enemies of Man hide, and to burn them out even as you bear the flames yourself."

>>50705790
Never give up, but also bear in mind you are mostly writing for hire if you want to work for BL. Writing what their largest audiences want is the most important thing a new author should do. Keep the good stuff for later, or find a way to cram it full with explosions and decapitations.

>>50705887
http://www.blacklibrary.com/Getting-Started/FAQ-Working-For-Black-Library.html

check this every now and again. They open up for submissions

>>50705854
Will give it a read later today (eurotime).

>>50705928

Thank you sempai.

>>50705854
How does one send you an edited version?
>tfw doesn't know how to pastebin

>>50705854
You didn't put Romance in your submission, did you?

Because BL fucking HATES that. Even Cain is more of a nod and a wink towards it.

Also, what was the length of the novel you sent in? Often times, short stories are better since there is less risk and it's easier to focus on one particular aspect.

Even trying to get something in for

> https://regimental-standard.com/

this sort of thing might be a good idea. Get your foot in the door as it were. Also you can churn out a ton of short attempts in different "tones" to try and see what they're interested in.

Despite the jokes and sad realities of 40k lore, GW DOES have protecting its IP and making it what they think is marketable.

Also apparently it's insanely hard to get into BL without knowing someone.

>>50705854

I'd be happy to look this over and give you my opinion for what it's worth. If you have the time, would you mind doing me a favor? I'm a bit of an aspiring writefag. I'm the guy doing the love and krieg 2.0 thread. It's actually the first time i've shared anything i've written. If it wouldn't be too much trouble i would really appreciate someone with more experience looking it over and maybe giving me some pointers.

>>50705966
Not fukkin sure.....

>>50705971
yeah its funny, high detail blood and gore? fine. Overtly mention two soldiers are fucking NO, subtly mentione it NOOOOOOOOOO MEN AND WOMEN DO NOT HAVE SEXXX RRAAAARRRHHHHH FUCKING DEGENERACY!!!

never knew of regimental standard

>>50705966
>>50706035
Maybe make a temporary mail account?

>>50706006
I will try getting around to it. I hope I can find the threads easy enough. I haven't writfagged for /tg/ in ages the wst were the last things I did because it was the only open writfagging I could do without janitors fucking my shit up.

>>50706059

Well whenever you can find the time it's appreciated. I honestly expected to get nuked out the gate, but it's been going strong for a few days now.

>>50705928
Link is broken. See https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Black_Library_Submissions_Window for an idea of what the BL is like. Yes, yes, 1d4chan LOL but the points they make about the companies size and stable of authors are relevant.

Getting published elsewhere isn't a bad idea, actually. It lets you approach them as a writer and not just a fan.

Still want to try? Don't post shit on 4chan. Post shit EVERYWHERE. On dakkadakka, Bolter & Chainsword, HeresyOnline.

Stalk current authors online. ADB has a decent web presence. Don't do this by spamming links to your writing at them, instead consistently engage with them (or offer to engage).

Always use the same identity. Build it up as a fan they recognize across multiple internet sites so that you come up when they google the name you use.

Get a twitter. Post about updates to your writing.

Get a FB. Post teasers and short pieces and links to your writing.

Get a linkedin profile even, connect your author/online identity with your real identity.

If you want to be a writer for BL, you have to realize that this is an actual JOB and they want to hire people who treat writing like a career.

>>50706092
well fuck... thats good advice

>>50706035
Well, that's what they want so that's what you have to give them. The best writing, I'm pretty sure, would be featuring new units and lore and subtly pushing product for GW.

>>50706092
Continued.


Write pieces varying in length, tone, and subjects. Maybe you have your one baby, maybe you prefer one type of lore over another, that's fine but the more original work you can put out the more you'll come up and the more likely that SOMETHING you write will appeal.

Second is engage in the community at as many levels as possible, with a consistent identity. Get name recognition, not just from fans but from authors. Make sure to push your writing to the fans, but engage the authors about how to write, and how to improve it, or keep the discussion about THEIR writing. If only people who know BL authors can get in, work on getting to know them.

Follow ADB
> ttps://aarondembskibowden.wordpress.com/

Read his posts. Comment. Don't start fights with him OR other users. Ask questions about lore or characters in his books etc. Read all his books too, of course. Don't slag other authors.

This ties into your post here >>50706035 in fact. You gotta be up to date on what they're putting out, and what the tone and format is.

Maybe you can repurpose your IG novel to have some submissions to Regimental Standard. Short tongue in cheek interviews about Guardsmen stationed on different planets, suitably edited with statements that could be taken multiple ways.

>>50706059

For the record it shouldn't be hard to find the thread, it's up right now. You don't have to go digging through the archives or anything.

>>50706137
It's one thing to be a good writer, it's another to be an editor/publisher.

BL already has a bunch of authors to manage. Believe it or not, the last thing an editor wants is ANOTHER author to manage. Especially a new one, especially a new one who is unpublished for anything, and so very much moreso than anything else do they not want to deal with a new unpublished Author who is a fan an established setting whose IP is owned by another company and has had many controversial retcons and is tied to a product line, let alone one as disparate and self-conflicting as WH40k.

You will never hand them a completed novel that they will read through and think is perfect. Let me rephrase, you will never hand them a completed novel because until they read through and edit it, it's just a draft.

And they are currently getting drafts and editing for their current authors already, getting one from some joe schmoe won't even get them to glance at it because for them it isn't an opportunity, it's just "more work". That they aren't getting paid for.

Even if you did write their ideal novel, they still have to go to Corporate and see if it's in line with what they want to promote for the IP, if there are any legal issues, if they have the money or staff to put it together as a novel for release, are you going to be available long-term to work with on editing, or even able to be worked with at all or are you a raging autist, and a bunch of other stuff too before they get to the big question of "Will this sell".

Which is, you know, kind of an issue itself.

"Will this sell". Are you already published and have brand recognition? Does it fit in with other works currently in devlopment? Will it actually draw sales away from other, reliable releases? Will it promote the main IP sales for WH40K?

Honestly, whether or not it fits the setting and lore is pretty minor compared to those issues, because that stuff can be edited out.

>>50706006
Take my advice with a grain of salt because, you know, anonymous on the internet. But let me tell you, I've a) been published myself twice, pretty much by accident and for short pieces, and more importantly b) I have a family member who has been published independently once and through a publishing company twice and is a Professor of Literature (nowhere famous but still) and so I got to learn a lot about the back end of publishing.

It's a fuckload different than writing, let me tell you, and new/unpublished people are a pain in the ass and risky. You always get interviews and forwards from/for established writers talking about how their work got thrown out a lot, or almost thrown out, etc. and they were applying to DOZENS of publishers.

If you want to apply to ONE, you have to know what they're looking for not just as an IP, but also as an employer, and then you have to figure out how to get them to value interacting with you enough find out how to address those concerns, let alone actually addressing them, let alone read anything you submit.

>>50706328
>>50706137

Another example of what goes into getting published - marketing. They have to have someone figure out what to release your book as, when to release it, how many copies to print, how to tie it in to the established IP both for BL & GW, maybe for the DoW trilogy.

Maybe you send in a novel, but they're looking for short stories. Maybe you send in a novel, but it's 800 pages and they're looking for 400. Maybe it's about the Eldar, but Gav Thorpe is releasing an Eldar book sometime in the next 6 months/year and they don't want to split the fanbase. Maybe you write Eldar but you reference a mechanic or faction that's getting revamped by GW.

And without being already involved in the BL company, there's no way for you to know any of this stuff, and it's not like you can just ask.

"Submission competitions" aren't about finding new talent, they're publicity events to promote marketing and get interest and investment from everyone who applies, everyone they know, and word of mouth about the event.

>>50706328

Honestly i wasn't planning on applying to the black library. At the moment i don't have a story worth sending to them. I'm just writting here on /tg/ for fun and maybe for practice and with the hope i'll get some good feedback. I do have a few stories i would like to get published, but they aren't warhammer. I'm aware of the difficulties of getting published, that's why i haven't planned my life around being a writer and just do it on the side. Thank you very much for your advice, though. It is appreciated, and i'm grateful to you for taking the time to share your experience with me.

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>>50706367
Hey man, writing for yourself is the best kind of writing there is. Well, after "writing to get a paycheck because you've already spent the advance and you're past your deadline but you're too established for them to just drop so you don't have to sacrifice quality and you have an understanding and tolerant editor" because honestly that kind of pressure/freedom contradiction is amazing for the creative process.

And I don't want to discourage you, or anyone, from writing and trying to get published. I just get kind of frustrated at how many people think it's just a matter of writing something good and not knowing about all the other factors that influence getting published.

Because then they get frustrated, or lose confidence, and end up stopping writing.

Also I like to talk about this sort of stuff. I was honestly kind of hoping someone else out there would chime in or something.

Anyways, continuing with 40keks

>>50706555

kek

Thanks man, i appreciate the sentiment and the advice. Godspeed anon. Would you mind giving what i dropped here for the board a look? If you've the time i mean. I'm not trying to solicit my thread or anything (okay i guess i am), its just i'd really like to get feedback from people who know what they are talking about, and you've been published and all. Here's the link for easy access, if your interested.

>>>50620632

>>50688242
That's adorable

>>50688996
They are. Artist was some eurofag edgelord nazi over on DA whose since locked 90% of his work, s'pity. It was fairly dope shit.

CSM is, if I recall a renegade from the exorcists chapter? grey knights lite sort of thing, who has joined a warband and acts as a sort-of Chaplin

>>50690838
the sad thing is lorgar saved him. His torment is..lessened now or if nothing else angron is more aligned with his rage, consumed by it instead of being slowly destroyed

>>50705497
WAAAGH-HAR, FIDDILY-DEE, BEIN' A FREEBOOTA'Z WHAT OI CAN BE!

>>50696822
>>50695856
Very well written.

>>50704830
Small pox blankets......

>>50710019

you sick fucker.

>>50687998
Well actualy Salamanders are well know for lookin out for comon Imperial folk, they are liked much much for this.

>>50688247
They need to be shoot for techno heresy.
>>50694216
This so much.
>>50690553
Holly fuken hell, that was best thin I read on /tg/ in a long time. Got more?

>>50687961
You'll never be this close to a sororitas; either being in a romantic relationship or just friends.

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>>50687961

>>50712859
>Salamanders
>well know for lookin out for comon Imperial folk
>purges every human on planet for having a peaceful coexistence with Eldar

>>50713434
>>50713526
This supposed to be feels thread not fanfic cancer lvl shit.

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>>50687961

>>50713549
Ignore him anon, 'tis just a troll feeding of thy butthurt.

>>50713601
...What?

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>>50687961
Not everyone will be this close to a sororitas, whether in a romantic relationship or just being friends.

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>>50713549
But anon, we'd all like some equal amounts of such heresy!

>>50713526
this one might or might not be an abhuman
just in case, please report to the nearest arbites officer for execution on presumption of culpability

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>>50687961
Guaranteed feels.

Because even after all this time, losing everyone and everything you care about, slowly becoming that which you despised, and eventually being confronted with the spitting image of the one you loved still brings a tear to the eye of every neckbeard who knows your name.

>>50714728
Eisenhorn..

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>>50687961
>>50687998

>>50714728

you know all i can think is "Why does that deamon host have a nipple ring?" I mean i understand the chains, the purity seals, the manacles and the collar, but why the nipple piercing? Also, why no proper clothes?

>>50696706
What is this sort of creature?

>>50687961
Are Marines even able to feel empathy? I thought they surpressed all their emotions

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Discuss Commander Yarrick

>>50715132

There is something wrong with that mans spinal column.

>>50715212

Do they cure cancer?

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>>50695198
>>50695655
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Miriael_Sabathiel

>>50715306
it's funny how sisters of battle are supposed to be uncorruptible, and yet keep falling to chaos, and now to nids.

>>50715109
chaos teddy bear

>>50714728
Poor sod.

Really poor sod.

Also the proof that sooner or later an Inquisitor will turn Radical.

>>50715132
He actually shed tears for his men.

All this time however he was barely holding them back.

People said it was pure stoicism. The ones closest to him knew better.

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WE ARE AGONISINGLY ALONE.

Don't care that BL and Goulding are retconning the shit out or the HH to fit their daddy issues and fanfiction in it, this version of Empy will always be better than the turbo autist/atheist/overall dickhead they try to portray him as.

>>50716037
Is it weird that I want write a story about a daemon getting owned by those words?

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>>50689117
>>50689207
>Press F to pay respects

>>50715132

he's a commisar lord you damned heretic!

blam him!

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These niggas. Every single time.

>>50717163

What is this?

>>50717319

Graphic tie-in to McNeill's Ultramarines stories? I'm thinking that because of the 4th company green trim.

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>TFW I.G.

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Termies and kids, more like DREADNOUGHTS AND KIDS

>>50716037
This is the Emperor - remember Him! And forget the hh bullshit written by mama's boys who had a bad daddy.

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>>50696263
>That Guardsman's face

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>>50688023
>He didn't accept the flower

>>50713846
What IG regiment is that soldier and what order is sister even in? Does not look like any I could recognize.

>>50713861
>making romantic advances on Slaanesh

Ewww disgusting! That guy must have a deathwish.

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Wonder if I can use this thread as an excuse to post 40K pics.

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>>50699638
My battle-brother

>>50720298

I don't think that haircut's regulation

>>50705910
Legion of the damned is the best deus ex machina

>>50720212

The answer is maybe Elysian, but in all honestly it's just someone drawing up what is essentially a modern trooper next to a sister.

>>50713846
That Storm trooper and Battle Sister pair who were close in the schola and continue to bro it up when they're in the same warzone.

Until oneday one of them doesn't come back from a mission.

>>50715249

Fuck, they could probably cure everything. Even warp shit and daemons.

>>50715114
Some are suppressed but not removed entirely

Others like pride are left in full force.

>>50715114

They probably feel the full range of human emotion (save fear), but are highly conditioned and trained so they don't pose a problem.

And, in many different chapters, they have different temperaments. Some are glum about their duty, others brash and prideful, quick to anger, bitter, borderline psychotic, self-important, reserved, pragmatic, nearly emotionless, or even pretty good-natured. Basically, they feel all emotions, save for fear. Because they are the Emperor's Space Marines and they shall know no fear.

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Lord?

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>>50715212
>you will never hear the bell of lost souls ring out across holy terra, and know that somewhere, a hero has fallen

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Last one

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>>50721705
>>50721719
>>50721733
>>50721748
>>50721763
>>50721779
All the feels.

>>50721049
There was some thread a week ago talking about what if there was an Imperial Guard Legion of the Damned.

The concept was fucking incredible and I want it to be a real thing.

>>50695851
Eat shit demon I will fucking destroy you.

>>50721779
I just thought of something.
What are carrying him off? it can't be people. Astartes in armor are coming up on half a ton. Three humans can't carry that.

>>50721983

those are deamons mate.

>>50721990
Looks like Dark Mechanicum to me.

>>50715103
Cherubael was initially a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh, as I recall, before being forced into a host body and bound by Eisenhorn.

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>>50720475
Funny thing is; that pic from >>50720298 is actually an edit and or 40K-fication of pic related: Humanized Tumblr by Jon Lock

Imagine this guy as some imperium official in 40K.

>>50721990
>>50723222

Either way three or four of them wouldn't have a great deal of trouble carting off a near-carcass

>>50723961
soiled by knowing its tumblr and -not- a 300 kilo cunt. But otherwise this is some full blooded imperial world noble second or third son, too perfect to be a hive worlder and not important enough to stay close to home. So instead he either holds rank in the guard, or is focused on the aerial side of his planet's regiment

>>50714728
I've only read the first Eisenhorn book.
Who are those characters in the reflection?

>>50724031
Nobody, Anon. Not anymore. Shadows of a memory.

>>50724031
old dude is Uber Aemos, savant and career nerd

woman closest to him is Alizebeth Bequin. The blank, you should have met her by now

Curls are the Betancore's Midas and his daughter, who replaces him later in the series

Big nigger I think is Godwyn Fischig. With the messed up face it makes sense. Dude's an arbite and the tank of the group

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>>50724001
>soiled by knowing its tumblr and -not- a 300 kilo cunt. But otherwise this is some full blooded imperial world noble second or third son, too perfect to be a hive worlder and not important enough to stay close to home. So instead he either holds rank in the guard, or is focused on the aerial side of his planet's regiment

Well judging by that humanized tumblr's good and charming good looks; >>50723961 I think he MIGHT, MIGHT or maybe even be part of politics in terms of being a poster boy for being a "smart and charming and talented" young human man. Hell I might even see him as an inquisitorial member to be used for negotiations.

Also here, have a "Humanized Google Chrome" also from the same artist of >>50723961

I'd say this humanized google would be some odd Techpriest or AdMech member.

>>50724134
Oh, thanks.
I know all those characters besides the daughter.

>>50724151
30k martian born if anything. Or some vat-grown piece of cuteboy booty installed on a ship.

>>50724157
Funky fresh

>>50719804
>>That Guardsman's face
>Ah yes, the return of the 'why boner'

>>50724157
Read Ravenor and Pariah after you're done with the Eisenhorn series for extra feels.

Especially once you're introduced to Beta, you'll be crying manly tears when Beta meets Eisenhorn.

>>50719804
Gimme some more Eldar ficki ficki, /tg/.

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>>50688211
>yfw Curze is dead
>yfw batfaggots are sad about their dead daddy
>yfw they will never outgrow thinking the Joker is a great villain or that being a scared little fucker in the face of another combatant isn't what children do

>>50726092
shit for shitpost god!

>>50724151
>that humanized google chrom
>a techpriest or AdMech in any way

Nah i dont think so. He does not have enough machine and metal bits in his body.

>>50726041
I'll write you a horror story about a wounded Eldar trying to hide from the survivor of a Death Korps grenadier squad if I find the motivation.

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You know what also makes me sad? In this discussion about BL admissions they stated that they go for ACTION, THREE EXPLOSIONS is na paragraph!

Best Black Library stories I have ever read are far from it and in case of short stories it makes them closer to good reading.

I just now learned that I have to steer clear from not only retconing cringefest that Horus Heresy became, but also any other thing they make from now on. Bad writing for people with short attention span became company policy.

You made me sad, anons. I can't contain the feels.

>>50730477
>Bad writing for people with short attention span became company policy.
Considering GW's bigges income stream are beginner that splurge and then move on and most of those are teenage boys it's not really that surprising.

If GW was smarter about marketing it's IP they'd diversify more to make it attractive to a more mature audience too though.

I mean considering that they just now in 2016 have started to use social media for marketing purposes under their new CEO gives me a little hope in that regard.
In the end Black Library published pulp fiction though. I don't expect them to ever release great literary works of art.