Warhammer 40,000 General

>be thousand sons
>pay 20 points to make your bolt pistol fire small blasts

God-damn, why must chaos termis be so garbage?

I wish melee chaos terminators were even decent, so I could justify running a Lord like he should be, a terminator melee monster.

>Orks are a melee race!
>I2
Get rid of them already, Orks are shit.

More datasheet leaks when?

Power Axe Crusaders?

BS 4 Acolytes?

Who knows!

>>50685459
I think it's a strange story to cap and repost.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forgeworld-Kalibrax-Pattern-Autocannons-Set-Autocannon-BITS-/112219521978?hash=item1a20ce03ba:g:H9UAAOSwImRYPJsb

Is this legit or a recast? Is there a good way to spot the difference? It is from Merkelistan and says it's actual GW brand, unlike the chinese recasters who don't list a brand.

>>50685475
Chaos terminators are so fucking good, what is your problem with them?!

They're way better than loyalist terminators.

>>50685479
orks is love

>>50685475
Death Guard terminators are pretty great.

>>50685475

How are they worse than loyalist terminators, other than no storm shield option? You get combi-weapons and marks.

How to fix Thousand Sons:

Thousand Sons detachment rules:
+1 Invuln
+1 Power Cast per turn
Channeling: Roll a D6 for each Tzeentch-marked unit at beginning of psychic phase, +1 WC for each 4+

Grand Coven rules:
When shooting at target hit by Witchfire or Malediction, have Preferred Enemy.
Reroll perils and failed psychic tests.
Add Warband as a core, add "renegade servants" as a non-formation auxiliary of 1-3 CSM, 0-1 Raptors/Bikers, 0-1 Havocs, 0-1 Terminators/Chosen

War Cabal rules:
Cast on 3+
Non-psykers reroll saving throws of a 1

Misc formation crap:
Consolidate Rehati, Ahriman's Exiles, and War Coven into 1 "bunch of psykers" formation
Maybe add a "Heretek Sorcerer + Vehicles and Daemon Engines" formation

Give Tzeentch's Firestorm AP:D6 (same as Strength D6) and Haywire, let it be cast as WC2 for Large Blast and WC3 for Large Blast Ignores Cover.

>>50685496

Half this. They are way better than loyalist ones due to being more flexible, cheaper, and min squad 3. But they're still shit. All terminators a shit.

>>50685496

They're only useful for suicide combi-weapons.

As for being better than loyalist termis, chaos doesn't get TH/SS.

>>50685467
>Generally

They tend to scatter and you usually can't hit more than 1 or 2 models if your opponent has even half a brain when it comes to spacing his guys. But 20pts for a squad of blasts? Probably going to hit something at least.

Deciding between SW BA and GK, which is the best assault focused army out of those three and why?

>>50685522
Sw.

Thunderwolves.

Wulfen.

Very fast. Very killy.

Dark eldar are awesome.

>>50685503
Only in Min Squads and for sitting on points. Keep them the hell away from actual fights, they won't win. They're like cultists but tougher.

>>50685489

Its legit. The easiest ways to tell if you're wondering if eBay is legit

- It's pretty expensive for a single bit
- It's not from China, Russian Federation, Hong Kong
- The seller sells plastic bits or whole kits
- The seller is also selling the other parts from that kit
- The seller is only selling a small amount of that bit (10 or less)

Compare the auction and inventory to an obvious recaster from china with a red background and you will see the german guy is obviously legit.

>>50685522

SW has TW cavalry and mutant yiffmen

BA has jump pack honor guard charging the turn they deep strike and death company

they are both good at assaults, not so sure about GK though

>>50685522

It's supposed to be BA but it's really SW.

>>50685538

They're at least more useful than regular termis, because T5 and FNP means it's FAR harder to drown them in small arms.

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>tfw Emperor's Warbringers
>"My chapter specializes in stealth and Surprise attacks, and we use our Scouts to soften enemy forces before we begin our attack."
>"Oh, so you must be a Raven Guard successor. I think I've heard of you, Raptors, right?"
>"We are sons of Dorn."
>"Wat"
What do, fellow sons of Dorn?

>>50685560
A brick is more useful than regular termies, at least the brick blocks line of sight.

>>50685538
I've found they can absorb a lot of firepower if you deep strike them into the enemy's deployment zone. The opponent usually panics and fires everything at them, some of them will live, and then they get to go do stuff.

The T5 and FNP really helps with their durability.

>>50685516
They get t5, fearless and FnP (rerolling 1s in the decurion).thats way better than storm shields.

>>50685475
Butcherhorde Detachment
5 Terminators w/ Power Axe and Combi Melta
5 melta shots + 20 S6 AP2 attacks on the charge.

Or

5 Terminators w/ Lightning Claws
25 S5 AP3 attacks with Shred.

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>>50685540

Thanks for the tips, anon. Have a cute nid.

>>50685569
Scouts with bolters. Scouts in Land Speeder Storms. Taking that one formation that lets scouts lead other units in. You don't use the Sternhammer, because you're Not That Kind Of Chapter.

>>50685576
>at least the brick can be used for battery against Tau and Eldar players, and against store windows to procure more toys
>or even more bricks

Truly, is there nothing a man with a brick cannot do?

>>50685599
>Basically, play Raven Guard

>>50685475

Use the auxiliary formation that lets chaos termis shoot twice on the turn they deepstrike. It's a darkhorse that no-one ever uses, and no-one ever sees coming.

How could anyone hate Admech? They are the coolest army in the game, every model is gorgeous.

>>50685618
No. Play Imperial Fists. The Raven Guard don't have a trademark on scouts. Just play them your way. Would it be better as Raven Guard? Probably. But you chose this path. Walk it.

>>50685630

40k robots look stupid

>>50685576
>t5, 2+/5++, 5+ FnP rerolling 1s, fearless
>Look how fragile they are, it's like they're made of glass! I would pay more than 10 points for this shit and even then ONLY if they had objective secured!
t. nu-/tg/

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>>50685569
>tfw you even camoflouge your vehicles and sometimes your armor
Brother, what you need is more gold. Just look at my chapter. Gold. All of it. Only the Emperor has more gold than us.

>>50685620
Truly, the ability to fire an extra couple Boltgun shots is a real game-changer. Thank goodness we have you, Anon. I don't anyone else could have ever realized the value of 6 extra Boltgun shots.

Plus, Hatred? Talk about a breath of fresh air. I was just looking at my Black Legion, trying to figure out how I could work in some way to get Hatred. If there was ever a special rule that CSM lacked access to, it was Hatred. Lucky for us they bundled with with such an amazing ability as 6 extra Boltgun shots.

>>50685569
Pretty sick. Use a bunch of camo vehicles.

>>50685666
REGULAR termies you faggot

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>>50685676
Brother, I believe you've forgotten us yet again.

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>>50685676
Let us slay the enemies of Mankind in GLORIOUS GOLD like the Emperor intended, fellow Son of Dorn!

>>50685630

I agree.

>>50685666
Literally nobody is saying that faggot Satan.
DG termies are good but they cannot beat the brick.

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>>50685642
Beep boop fuck your opinion

We're 30s era Sci Fi serial throwbacks and you'd better deal

>>50685522
The furfags have Skullcrushers even though they're not World Eaters. Their Yifflords can also get really OP with relics.

>>50685693
They are regular terminators if you're playing the correct legion for competitive, faggot.

>>50685701
>>50685694
Did we just become best friends, Battle Brother?

>>50685711

There's a reason the clothes from those eras aren't considered fashionable these days.

>>50685731
>he doesn't know what a throwback is

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>>50685731

That reason has little to do with robots, and... Well, I guess it does actually have a lot to do with Robots.

>>50685731
If you have shit taste, perhaps

>>50685694
>>50685701
>Celestial Lion
>Not Auric Patricians
Brother, gold is even in our chapter's name! You may have third place. We hold second, as the Emperor Himself is first!

However it is nice to hear that our brothers in the Black Templars are aiding your chapter after having been attacked by Ork snipers.

>>50685741
>we're being ugly, ironically!
You sure got me.

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>>50685731

>he doesn't like retro-scifi

Need I dig up the old ATOMIC CHAMPIONS Chapter thread?

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>>50685688

Yeah, they'd be so much better if they could carry a weapon that'd be useful to get two turns of shooting with at the outset of the game, especially from deepstrike, because then they could pack two turns of shooting that weapon into the rear armour of any vehicles. That weapon wouldn't even need to specifically be a tank-hunting weapon.

Can someone post a pic of the 7E FoC, I can't find it in the IG codex

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>>50685716

>>50685748

I'm sorry, Anonymous, but if you prefer plastic GW domebots to FW's resin frogboats, it might possibly be you that has the shit taste. I would consult your physician for testing to be sure.

>>50685534
They have some pretty neat looking models

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>>50685761
>doesn't appreciate camp
>likes 40k

>>50685781
>25 points
>for a TL'ed Autocannon
That's some value right there. Frankly, I'm amazed that CSM haven't completely overtaken the competitive 40k scene. Christ, shooting twice with an autocannon? How could anyone okay such an awe-inspiring display of shooting power?

>>50685791
>sad frogbots vs adorable retro baymax

eh. actually who wins in a fight between the 2 units?

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>>50685791
Nobody mentioned or brought up the 30k Mechanicum, Anon. We're talking about the retro sci fi aesthetics of the 40k line. It's a given that the Thanatar etc are prettier, but when is that ever not the case with GW vs FW?

>>50685809

>tau player confirmed

>>50685801

Go back to Rogue Trader, nerd! Only super grimdark and seriousness in the far future of 7th edition.

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>>50685801
>interrogation marks

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>>50685819

Arvus Lighter.

>>50685711
Shit dome-heads and stubby arms make these look terrible.

Datasmith is great though

If I have multiple coven formations that do leadership debuffs, do those debuffs stack? If so, what is the best way to take advantage of leadership debuffs?

>>50685820
>40k robots look stupid

I thought the obvious implication was "30k was here, 40k is a loser"?

>mfw I first realized the "head" of the 30k robots is the lobotomized skull at the bottom of its chest

>>50685711
those robots are baller as fuck, only reason id play skitarri

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>>50685837
They look great, though. Just need the right coat of paint to make the most of it, instead of gunmetal grey and martian red.

>>50685836

Arvus Lighter is cute.

I will use them to rain irradiated Skitarii upon my foes.

>>50685844
yes
psychic shriek

>>50685837
Those shitty robots are the only bad models in admech, especially when you put them side by side with other models from the line or the 30k bots but pleblords still like them for some reason

>>50685858
I like these but they're too anime for my 40k tastes

>>50685862
So eldar allies?

>>50685850
>skitarri

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How many other people here actually play sisters? Post 'em if you got 'em.

>>50685642
you disgust me, anon

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>>50685858

>>50685858
>talking shit about glorious master-race Forge World Mars

Get the fuck outta here, G1 Jetfire.

>>50685821
Better that than a retard that thinks Terminator Annihilation Force isn't hot, flaming horse-shit.

Fucking hell, Hatred (again) and getting to shoot twice with a unit whose only viable build is combi-weapon spam. It's a perfect example of GW handing out formation benefits that amount to nothing.

>>50685884
If you were going to take Eldar as allies then take Harlequins instead.
Mirror of Minds is an instant kill on anything with a Leadership value if you debuff their Ld score to 5 or lower.

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I need help with my Iron Warriors. Could this list work?

Lord is holding the new mace. At initiative str 10 ap 1 looks good I guess?

The predators are the vehicles I have.

Can't figure out how to make a decent Grand Company detachment. Seems to be so much tax for little gain (stubborn, loads of fortifications, twin linked ordnance blasts - from where?)

Any suggests? I also considered a Tzeentch Prince with flesh metal for a 2+ re-roll one with 6+ fnp.

>>50685858
>Just need the right coat of paint to make the most of it,

Pic unrelated?


Shit is going to look like shit no matter what. No i don't care if it's a 'retro' or 'camp' buzzwords don't turn trash into gold

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>>50685869
>Anime

What?

They are literally the robot from the Forbidden Planet with guns strapped on

>>50685910
1000pt army sorry, thought the list showed that

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>>50685869
They're not 40k enough for me.

>>50685865

I'm a fan of Thallax and Dominatar. Also I'm not a fan of Electro-staff priests, but I love Electric-hand priests because they look like they should be strumming a guitar on top of a vehicle practically made of speakers.

>mfw admech robot argument still results in good thread
>other generals go to shit when people have arguments over other factions

Looks like SoBfags, CSMfags, Eldarfags, and Taufags really are cancer.

>>50685886
skitarri, admech, same thing. at least it should be just 1 codex

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>>50685888
I do regularly, just finished a game..stuff still packed in case.

>>50685888
>That Exorcust conversion
>the complete lack of the clear plastic windows
>unfinished Immolator
>army not fully painted
>shitty 3pp waifuangel in the bottom right :^)
Anon, I...

>>50685936
>Cadian
>Cathacan
>Same thing

I agree that the Skitarii codex should have been with AdMech, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

>>50685929
Huh.

>>50685865
WRONG! Electro priests are the worst. I demand Vader looking cyborgs shooting lighting from their robo hands!

>>50685916
no they're robotech

>>50685925
They are literally based on the Castellan you flaming faggot
And if you don't like them then FW made the Kastellax based on the same source

So did Traitor Legions make the Iron Warriors worth running as CSM yet?

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>>50685915
I am so very sorry that the silly giant robot monster creatures used by the technology priests of Mars are not up to your serious grimdarkness standards Anon.

If it makes you feel any better, here's a picture of a Castellan scoring some babes

>>50685973
>Electro priests worse than beep boops

Bro.

>>50685888
Checked and I have about 80 sisters sitting here, ready to geht sold, since the whole book is going to be a piece of shit.

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>>50685977
Look, I'm just saying that robots without pinstripes or some kind of checkerboard pattern are probably from some gay anime instead of from 40k.

Like seriously, non-quartered schemes? Forgeworld and GW fucked up.

>>50685915

Blanche is the pinnacle of art and his technical skill with a pen is astronomical. No other artwork has as much soul, character, or depth.

'_>'

>>50685983

They're pretty decent. Tear mechanized lists a new asshole, since Havocs, Obliterators and Mutilators get Tank Hunters.

Army-wide +6 FNP is cool too.

>>50685987

Why don't SoB have that hairstyle?

>>50685720
I think so!

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>>50685569
Point out the Executioners. Dorn's Geneseed is reasonably flexibile. Probably the most after Gullyman.

>>50685983
They're not the strongest legion in the book, but they're definitively playable. 6+ FNP across the board, their artifacts are pretty nifty and their Detatchment lets you reroll scatter on Ordenance and you can bring 3 fortifications.

Siege away.

>>50686028

>Dorn's Geneseed is reasonably flexibile. Probably the most after Gullyman.

Nope. For flexibility Guilliman > Lion > Dorn.

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>>50685821
>>50685809
>>50685781
>>50685688
>>50685620

Bring thousand sons then. 2 rounds of AP3 shooting is actually worthwhile. Not having access to combi weapons or anything besides power swords sucks, but casting force after the unit drops in puts them at 2+/3++ with ap3 weapons all around.

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Discussion of cool, campy models aside, if the Cohort Cybernetica doesn't give you a boner I don't know what to tell you really

>>50686028
Yeah, but both they and the Black Templars love swords. And the fact that Swords in general are an IF thing already.

Thought Google was possessed by Chaos there for a minute.

>>50686039
>Girlyman
>Flexible

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>>50685711

>>50686039
>Lion
>Dorn

>Both know for being legendarily stubborn
>Flexible

>>50685983
Definitely better than before. Not deathguard or alpha legion good

Trying to build a Skit Man to take as allies, 575pts budget and I have two Rangers squads and a set of Dunecrawlers. Rangers have nothing with them except an Arquebus each and I have 15 points left. Advice?

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>>50686005
>Look, I'm just saying that robots without pinstripes or some kind of checkerboard pattern are probably from some gay anime instead of from 40k.

sasuga gaijin-san

>>50686055

His sperm makes up over 60% of all marines so any time a marine does anything remotely unique it's attributed to seagullman.

>>50686076

Can the Dunecrawlers take any potentially useful options? How about some Data-tethers or Infoslave-skulls?

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>>50686058
>they actually did it

>>50686076
That depends highly on how you have the Dunecrawlers outfitted.

Also, why Rangers instead of Vanguards?

>>50685973
They should have sold mixed gender electropriests for instant sales.

>>50686042
Thanks for the input, sport. Tell you what, why don't you just take Riptides if you're going to take units that aren't part of the formation? Double bukakke accelerators to the face.

So what was the Death Guard's thing pre-heresy? What was their niche? Because it seems like their entire identity now is "We Like Nurgle".

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>>50686043

You call that a cohort?

>>50686108
>repainting gifts of the mechanicum

I hope they went rouge on you.

>>50686108
>30 minutes later 4 Castellans still standing

>>50686107
>So what was the Death Guard's thing pre-heresy?

Sniffing farts and swinging farm tools around.

>What was their niche?

Basically being slow and dumb.

>>50686107
Resilient tide of marines with chemical weapons iirc.

>>50686044
>Executioners love swords
>their symbol is two axes
>they have Axe Brothres instead of Sword Brethren
>their successor is the Crimson Axes

Are you SURE it's swords they love, Anonymous?

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>>50686005
>>50685925
>patterns with solid colors

yeah, i can't get off to this sempai

>>50686100
Didn't mention them because they are totally bare. Eradication Beamers and fuck all else.

Because I thought that Galvanic Rifles were that much more awesome than Radium Carbines. Is that not the case?

>>50686039
>flexible
So flexible the lion's boys bend over and let chaos do them in the arse?

>>50686107
They didn't like metal boxes, so they walked*.

While raining phosphex upon their foes. And using chemical ammunition in their flamers and grenade launchers. And having more terminator armor than anyone else, bar the Iron Warriors, who quite literally had several legions worth of armor, weapons, and ammo.

*This proved to be a bad decision at Istvaan V, and throughout the heresy, as most of their tank commanders and pilots went loyal.

>>50686058

LOOK OUT THERE'S A TYRANID BIOFORM INSIDE THAT ROBOT!!!

>>50686044

>executioners
>swords
you misspelled axes

>>50686105
I'm sorry, I don't quite follow. I assumed that terminators were terminators, be they normal traitor terminators with power weapons and access to combi weapons, or thousand sons terminators with power swords and inferno bolts. Much in the same way as anyone outfitted in terminator armor can choose between indominus, tartorus, or cataphractii.

>>50686107
Terminators and chemweapons. You can get away with footslogging them.

>>50686139
Err, well, you get what I mean.

>>50686058
>putting a model on an undersized square base instead of the properly sized supplied base

But that's against the ruurs

>>50686147
You definitely should swap to Vanguard for the incredible Radium Carbines and upgrade the Onagers to Neutrons with free Cognis Stubbers.

Vanguard are god tier basic troops. Their amount of shooty is incredible. Rangers are more expensive and not quite as good, and the Arquebus is a nice gimmick but expensive and I wouldn't rely on it.

>>50685925
I read that Traitor Slaneesh robot as just having "OK" on its chest.

>>50686108
Now these machine-gun mantis fuckers actually look good.

I'd start Admech in a heartbeat if these were what Castellans looked like

>>50686182
my robot is OK

>>50686173
not anymore, the FAQ says you dont have to use the base the model with supplied with (within reason)

i can just tell i'm going to see a riptide balanced on a 50mm base

>>50686153

Speaking of which, does anyone have any reference for what phosphex looks like? I want my Death Guards' flamers to be chem-sprayers.

Because 40k Napalm is cool as fuck.

>>50685949

I have all the windows, actually. In just didn't put them on because they're annoying.

Most people like the conversion, but I did it 7 years ago, so...

In fact, a lot of this is old old paint that I've since improved upon with my newer paint jobs. I was going to strip them, but Duncan told me to keep them as a reminder.

idk what 3pp means

>>50686003

>ready to be sold

I don't know that I could do that. This was my first from another time it feels like.

>>50685943

What's inside?

>>50686203
>Not modelling your ritpide mid jump on a 25mm base for maximum immersion with your terrain

>>50686093
The can't take Infoslave-skulls at all, and they start with the only tether they can get, Broad-Spectrum.

For 25pts each I can give there FNP 5+ but that seems too expensive for my budget.

>>50686107
Hazardous environment warfare. They also specialized in tough, slow, but implacable infantry advances. They were often used to center the line in conjunction with faster more agile forces on the flanks.

>>50686183
Is your local group super conservative when it comes to counts-as models?

Or is it a cash thing?

>>50686206
Mate, phosphex isn't napalm. It's a virus bomb that destroys all organic life it comes in contact with.

Why do people like AdMech? They're the lamest army in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>50686179
So maybe drop the Arquebus and give a dude an Arc Rifle? Then slap the Neutron on at least two Dunecrawlers? How worth it are the Manipulators or extra heavy stubbers for them?

>>50686182
>lil jon bot

>>50686206
>Phosphex Flamers

Please, no, I don't think anything in 30k could handle that, especially not the wielders.

>>50686244

"Phosphex Weapons are a class of extremely deadly Imperial incendiary weapon. Phosphex has the capacity to burn without oxygen and with next to no fuel source. It is capable of burning underwater (being also able to set water alight) and can burn through solid rock, adamantium, and ceramite. Known as the 'living fire', 'crawling death' and 'ice-fire' due to its attraction to movement and sub-zero burning temperature, once unleashed the green cloud of Phosphex expands exponentially, burning everything in its path. The taint of Phosphex residue is far more enduring even than radiation from nuclear fallout, rendering any area exposed to its touch uninhabitable"

Sounds a lot like napalm to me.

As a new player that knows very little about the game, but interested in starting, how absolutely awful is Death Guard? Tychus seems like a cool dude.

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>>50686183
30k admech is baller as fuck.

>>50686250

Yeah, ugly.

>>50686244
>virus bomb
Hate to tell you that you're wrong, but you are wrong.

>>50686255
Arc Rifle is a solid anti-vehicle option, you'd probably want more than 1 tho. Stock Vanguards are incredibly shooty as is.

The Manipulator is good but overpriced, generally not worth it. The heavy stubbers are free on Neutrons and dirt cheap otherwise, so I'd pick them up. Do you have anti air elsewhere? If you anticipate enemy air units then an Icarus Array is a great option.

>>50686271

Tychus with zombie spam is actually pretty competitive in the "covering the board and not dying" department, but people never play it because

- they're too busy whining about CSM not having any good units
- they don't actually own 180 zombies
- they think Tychus isn't worth the "tax"
- they're shit at the game

If you're taking Tychus and zero zombies don't bother, just buy his model and use it as a regular Nurgle faggot.

>>50686271
They got buffs in the recent Traitor Legions supplement that make them one of the prize picks of all of CSM, actually.

If you were hesitating about picking them up because of rules, now's the time to put that aside and make a start.

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You can always buy the alternate Kastelan heads anyways

>>50686206
Green fire that can float around in misty clouds and burns everything including rock, metal, and water. It also taints the effected area like nuclear fallout but nastier and is somehow attracted to movement.

>>50686244
It's chemical, not biological.

>>50685712
How? Models are limited to one relic only.

>>50686318
>GW make one model ugly thanks to one feature
>FW release an expensive add-on to bring its aesthetic into coherence with the rest of the range

BRAVO

>>50686318
>>50686272
>ZOMG robots xdddddd
Shit taste.

>>50686338
>Not liking Automata

It is you who are the shit, fleshbag, bet you don't even have a Potentia Coil.

>>50686318
>FW in charge of cleaning mould lines

>>50686338
What's your favorite army then, anti-AdMech shitposter?

If I build an SW army with all helmeted models, am I a heretic or just practical?

>>50686362
Neither, just stupid.

>>50686305
Who the fuck is Tychus? All I have is this shitty Typhus. He's not really worth the points, even if he turns all of my cultists into zomies because zombies are kinda too slow since they can't run or anything, it takes them like 6 turns to make it across the board.

>>50686303
I'm hurting for AA since my main is DA and I have a Knight Crusader with Stormspear as well.

But my Skitarii list right now looks like

>Rangers
9 dudes
1 Arc Rifle
1 Alpha with free shit

>Rangers
9 dudes
1 Arc Rifle
1 Alpha with free shit

>Dunecrawlers
3 Crawlers, no extras

500 pts total.


So They can all get Neutron Lasers, but that's all my points.

>>50686336
Ain't FW, fool

>>50686336
>FW
https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/mechanic-adepts/adeptus-mechanicus-kastelan-robots-heads/

>>50686355
>muh walking fish bowls
>muh monolook army
Wew

>>50686359
Guess correctly and I'll make it stop.

>>50686398
>monolook
?

>>50686398
SoB

>>50686398
>monolook
Compared to what army mate?

>>50686409
Every single model looks exactly the same.

>>50686362
Neither.

SWs can't breathe void, but it's also more of a burden on your force to be disproportionately a certain way. You'll want your characters to be helmetless, but if there aren't enough regulars with no helmets in the rank and file, the force will look out of place and weird.

>>50686377
Apologies for not knowing the full range of FW products for a relatively recently introduced army I don't play. :/

>>50686380
Thanks for the link.

>>50685569
Pinion Battle Company
Bolters, bolters everywhere

>>50686418
>I am both blind AND retarded, bet you didn't see that coming.

>>50686372

So helmetless SW army is smart man's option?

>>50686412
Close.

>>50686415
Orks, SM, CSM, Eldar, DEldar, even the fucking Tau have more variety.

>>50686429
Cry more faggot.

>>50686164
So, not only do you not play CSM, you don't even play 40k.

>>50686380
Does anyone have any experience with this company's models?
Where are they located anyway?

>>50686448
>SM
>Variety
>Compared to Automata

I don't know, the Automata have a particularly more pronounced variety in model silhouettes, the theme of the aesthetic just seems a little bit more tight and concise.

>>50686440
Yes. There should be at least one helmetless Speyed Woof per squad.

>>50686448
>he's just salty a faction released this editon has absolutely beautiful DE-tier sculpts while he's sat in the corner with his shitty monopose fineshit Inquisition models

>>50686448
I'm >>50686412 and I'm not that guy

I think ad-mech is shit and it doesn't need to be in 40k, robot faggots have tau to shit up the game with as is

the game shouldn't have 20+ codices and a rulebook

>>50686463

Their casts are pretty good but they only sell cheesecake resin and some of the sculpts are a bit cartoonish and heroic scale so they won't match the game as well as FW or Raging Heroes stuff which are more properly proportioned.

They have some cool products like giant bag of skulls or gothic street cars.

>>50686486
>40k robots
>DE tier

Nigga pls you're comparing something that's 90% smooth plates with something that's 90% ridged armor and spikes.

>>50685888
Just started buying them.

> Stopped playing Tau because it started going full GUNDAM/MACROSS
> Started collecting DE
> Already got a succubi, some Kabalite warriors and a Raider put together
> realize I have no real idea for army comp for DE and just want to do nothing but go fast and shoot shit
> realized I should have just stuck with Tau and just brought more hammerheads and skyrays

I don't know what to do /tg/, on one hand, I like the DE's models and rules, but I have no idea how to work them.

Mean while I just wanna play Tau like how they were in that period between 5th/6th edition, when they were combined arms instead of markerlights/riptide.

>>50686494
>cheesecake resin
As in soft resin?

>>50686480
but i hate painting flesh

>>50686523
>DE and Tau
Pick up some Grey Knights and you'll be literally me.

>>50686489
>Additional armies is a bad thing.
>Tau more at home in 40k than AdMech.
Ah, it was bait, got it.

575 is pretty tight for this, yeah. If you swap them all to Vanguard, you can field 2 full 10 mans if you drop to stock weapons. That makes the Vanguard purely anti-infantry however, so your use may vary. They will eat any infantry that gets close however. You could also drop one of the squads to 5 and do something like this
Skitarii Vanguard (10) - 155pts
1 Vanguard Alpha: Radium carabine
1 Skitarii Vanguard: Arc rifle,Omnispex
2 Skitarii Vanguard: Arc rifle
6 Skitarii Vanguard: Radium carabine

Skitarii Vanguard (5) - 65pts
1 Vanguard Alpha: Radium carabine
1 Skitarii Vanguard: Radium carabine,Omnispex
3 Skitarii Vanguard: Radium carabine

Onager Dunecrawler (3) - 355pts
2 Onager Dunecrawler: Neutron laser and cognis heavy stubber,Smoke launchers
1 Onager Dunecrawler: Neutron laser and cognis heavy stubber

It's kind of hard to leverage in that point level.

>>50686503
I'm talking mostly about Skitarii here.
>he dodges when i guess correctly

>>50686532
Take a look at their range. Literal nudes up in that not!AdMech range.

>>50686532
No, he's talking tits, hooters, boobs, funbags, chest boulders.

That's what he is talking about.

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>Sisters of Battle are one of the most expensive armies

>Not competitive at all

>Extremely loyal fans

>GW makes a limited new mini to generate hype

>Codex comes out and it even further nerfs them

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thoughts on this 1850 orks list, /tg/?

>>50686107
like a few of the traitor legions their "thing" was being idiots and adhering strictly to one method of war and relying exclusively on "because astarties" and power armour to see them through.

In the death guard's case it was pure grinding infantry. Guard/krieg tactics with space marines

>>50686574
Sisterfags are fun to bully.

>>50686577
It gives me cancer

>>50686448
>More variety.

The only thing they have thematically or silhouette-wise above AdMech is transports and fliers, sure they have more models total in the 40k line, but seeing as it's a brand new army, of course they do.

>>50686574
Obviously they want the sob story to continue

>>50686577

>no nobz in a naut

>>50686533
Me every day.

Total newfag here, after reading through some fluff I really like the look and feel of the Dark Angels. What would be the best way to start a dark angels army, and what should I have in a 1000 point list?

>>50686577
Might actually hold up in a semi-competitive game/10.

>>50686615

Dark Vengeance

>>50686577
>Combined arms + same faction allies
Nope, sorry.

>>50686460
Nope. My local gaming group has been shifting to it though. I was entranced with the bulky space dudes motif a few months ago. Been trying to read up and understand as much as I can without actually being able to play chaos since then.

>>50686574
>Not competitive at all
They were solid middle tier.

>>50686577
can't ally with yourself, make that part of the CAD instead. where are our mek guns?

>>50686615
Bikes with plasma, only do termi-spam if you really like the idea of it. That's about it, but see the 1s4chan page for this general's complete assessment of unit's utility.

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Since GK are kinda trash for actually fighting daemons, what could improve them? I really would enjoy if they had some way of sealing/blocking summoning or casting their powers through psychic denial. Ive always wanted to see more 'stop the ritual' style esoteric mechanics with them.

At least new imperial agents allows for additional cheap warp charge? Maybe?

>>50686479
Not really.
>fliers
>scouts
>teddy bears
>speeders
>tanks
>dreads
>honor guard
All which look significantly different from each other and have varied color patters even within the same army. Compare that to the boring metal cogs + red robes designed that is smeared all over the AdMech line.

>>50686486
>fish bowls
>beautiful
>trying this hard
Your tears are delicious mr. shit taste.

>>50686489
This.

>>50686574
Sexism. GW can't have a strong female army, that would scare space Marine players away

>>50686577
>no powerclaws
wut da zog

>>50686666
Oooookay, whatever you say, Slaanesh.

>>50686666
checked

>>50686574
More offensive is the way they're jerking people around about weather there will or will not be plastic sisters or new sisters in the future.

>>50686639
Unless faced with some Bullshit Gargantuan Creature or some flying Monstrous one. They did rather good.

The sheer amount of melta and flamers did the job.

>>50686666
sure thing, satan

>>50686574
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>50686660
If Grey Knights are going to be super good at fighting daemons, they need to either pay extra for it or be super shit at fighting everybody else.

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>>50686666

The portrayal of Sisters in the current rules is unrealistic though. In order to properly portray females on the battlefield, they need to be physically weaker than regular humans.

Something like-

WS3 BS4 S2 T2 W1 I3 A1 Ld8 Sv3+

-would be an appropriate statline for a sister of battle. Reduce them to only 8 points per model to make this balanced, and you've fixed Sisters as an army.

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>>50686662
Alright Inquisition-playing shitposter, time to put this meme to bed. It's become overwhelmingly apparent that not only are you blind, you also don't actually know any of GW's model ranges.

>>50686662
>fliers
>scouts
>teddy bears
>speeders
>tanks
>dreads
>honor guard

No fliers
Yes scout units
Yes big boys
Chickenwalkers for speeders
crabtank
No dred eq
Yes honor gaurd eq with the HQ escorts

>boring metal cogs + red robes
They have s much cannon color variety as SM wtf are you on about?

>>50686505

Word to the wise: Don't buy their bundles. Their squads are a a mess. Their idea of a Dominion squad is painful.

>>50686725

Is that the Scout+Special weapons team that comes with 1 storm bolter, 1 flamer and 1 melta?

>>50686723
What a nice man, giving her the medicine that she needs.

>>50686721
Low tier bait.

>>50686572
I see. I was totally unfamiliar with this use of "cheesecake". Is this specifically a /tg/ thing, or what?

>>50686222

IWND, not FNP

>>50686706
We're already super shit at fighting everyone else...

>>50686574

If the one anon is true about the command being an elite choice, they might get better with access to 5 combi-plasma squads, though getting them there might be the problem.

>>50686753
>Is this specifically a /tg/ thing, or what?

No.

http://www.neatorama.com/2013/03/21/The-Origins-of-the-Terms-Cheesecake-and-Beefcake/

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Wish to continue to expand my Humanity Master Race T3 Battle Harem.
Are there any fun rules for Sentinels and Dunecrabs?
Sadly my Penitent Engines do more damage by exploding in the enemy line. But Emepror damn it are they fun.

Also new Psykers! I do not trust those mutants better restrain them for their own good.

>>50686523
>succubus
Best melee hq in the codex and dirt cheap
Personally I give her the relic armor (4+, 6++, fear, -2 to enemy leadership which is great for moral in melee), and a glaive
>warriors in raiders
FAQ just made this not shit so you are fine there
Give the raider nightshields + splinter racks the dark lance is optional as you you will always be jinking so the raider's gun is mostly irrelevant

As for suggestions
More KW in either a raider or venom
Mandrakes are good, but most importantly they are cheap and don't require a transport so if you need to fill 60pts this is my go to option
Incubi are pretty much the only bodyguard option for your succubus if you also want them to perform in melee I reccomend a 3-4 man squad in a venom
Reavers are good at killing pretty much anything up to T6 / AV12 and are always a good addition to a list

The next question is how are you going to pop tanks, and unfortunately DE suck balls at this
The "best" options available are a bunch of ravagers, or scourges attempting to plink off HPs
If you need anti air your only option is a razorwing jetfighter who kinda sucks at the role as he has very little anti vehicle, but a lot of anti infantry.

If you want to get "cheesy" with DE run the Talos formation from the haemonc supplement which is the best thing we have.

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Sup /tg/, I just got done with my first ever game against Necrons today. It's so strange considering that I've played this game for 5 years now, and this is my first and only game against the SPOOKY SKELLYBOTZ. He told me he was bringing a Decurion, so I brought my A-game with a Gladius, featuring FATMAN, Lias Issodon, and my Siege Contemptor with a Heavy Conversion Beamer. As well as the usual Outflank shennanigans with fully 80% of my army outflanking. I only had 5 out of 10 of the transports, so I didn't have the full decurion. Also Fatman can't claim the benefit from free transports, so he actually had to pay the full 50 points for his drop pod. That's a pitiful price to pay for getting him where he needs to be, with the right protection.

FATMAN dropped turn 1 right next to The Deceiver, after Lias Issodon cut The Deceiver's health completely in half. Then with some strategic flamer placement, FATMAN claimed first blood by simultaneously shredding The Deceiver, and wiping out an entire squad of immortals. All while still remaining in his drop pod. Necron player didn't have much to shoot at..

On my turn 2, FATMAN wipes a whole squad of immortals, and my Siege Contemptor gibs a second squad of warriors with the delicious S10 large blast. I then charge every warrior squad around FATMAN with some tactical marines, expressly to stop them from gaussing my leviathan. On his turn, his Transcendent Catan gets a deep strike misshap, so I place it right in front of FATMAN.

On turn 3, I tabled the necrons. FATMAN absolutely shredded his Transcendent Catan as expected.

So why was I led to believe that Decurions are just made of hordes of unkillable skellybots? They were pretty easy to deal with, especially if you get them in melee strategically, while focusing on objectives.

>>50686741
>giving her the medicine that she deserves

>>50686802

Get out of here Raptors guy

>>50686802
that wasn't a WAAC necron list

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>>50686706
As someone who only fielded small groups of them to supplement Inquisitorial stormtroopers, this is fine. It's never made sense to me for knights to be fielded en masse outside of fights against massive demonic incursions. A strike team might be attached to imperial forces due to significant warp threat or to accomplish an objective, but thered be no reason to commit a full Brotherhood.

>>Codex: Grey Gnights was a mistake

>>50686801
>FAQ just made this not shit so you are fine there

Sauce?

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>>50686796
Compromise and get a Gimp Powered Robot Cavalier formation that can outflank and absolutely ruin any transports, light vehicles or infantry you encounter as you sanicfast across the board

Why do models scatter on deep strike? Is everyone drink in the 41st millennium?

>>50686740

Yea, though its 2 flamers, which are useless on them.

Dominions are Scout squads with 4 special weapons that get ignore cover once per game. Generally speaking, load them up with 4 meltas and go to town.

>>50686862

That actually sounds like a pretty good unit.

>>50686837
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/22/warhammer-40000-rulebook-final-faq/

>>50686858
Airdropping from high altitude is not super reliable/ teleporters are shit/ etc.

They have ways of making it reliable that work out what ever the given fluff is.

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>>50686721
>he doesn't know that s3 encompasses a lot
>orks who can rip men apart
>veteran guardsmen
>tau who fight like grots
>daemonettes who move faster then the eye can see

also you bit the bait fool

>>50686858
Remember that for at least the Imperium, they don't truly know how their tech works. They know that if they press these buttons that the AdMech permits them to press on the machine, what they want happens. Usually. Outside of that they know jack shit.

>>50686833
Neither was mine. And as per my luck, even the Raptors tactics did barely anything this game. Not a single space marine ever called for a Shrouded cover save on turn 1, and precisely 1 necron died to a rending bolter. Nearly all of my kills was from melee combat.

What would a WAAC necron list look like? This game was 2500 points by the way.

>>50686802
Paint your drop poood. Dooo iiiiiit.

What weapons are on the leviathan?

>>50686842
Was that the 6 chicken formations? I love the models, but friend already running the robot chicken with his scion. But maybe the if they are only 3...

>>50686893
>>50686837
More specifically pic related

Also I just realized that this FAQ is labelled as the last core rule book FAQ
8th edition imminent boys

>>50686905
A lot of Wraiths for one, they're fucking bastards.

Regardless, Necrons have ironically fallen behind when it comes to the Decurion, since they're so goddamn hard to kill everyone just takes advantage of the fact that they don't have ObSec and play Objectives instead.

>>50686905
probably 1850 without cheating FW shit

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>>50686923
Fuck

>>50686858
A few meters of inaccuracy from a Drop Pod in orbit in an often non-Terran atmosphere is pretty good, senpai. What triggers me hard is that voidships are firing at each other from tens of thousands of km away but can't hit planet-borne targets for shit in the fluff. That being said, it's 40k, most everything has an in-universe explanation, but most of those explanations don't make sense.

>>50686265

Fucking living fire. The tech-priest who destroyed the only STC for it did so after he used it on an entire planet. Pretty sure he saw this fucking daemon-fire fucking up everything and decided it was yet another Dark Age weapon this galaxy was better off without.

>>50686917
Storm Cannon, Armoured Ceramite, 3 Hunter Killer Missiles, Severing Claws, and a Lucius Drop Pod. Still totally fucking worth it, even at ~400 points.

>>50686937
>Cheating FW shit
Clearly you have never played against FW stuff. Get with the times, now FW makes reasonably balanced content, and Geedubs is the one that makes complete and utter imbalanced bullshit.

>>50686930
What can I expect from wraiths?

>>50686858
because you don't want deep striking flamers getting into the perfect spot to kill your dudes camping in cover or meltas getting right in your ass.

>>50686918
Ironstrider Cavaliers

2 Units Dragoons 1 Unit Ballistari (up to 18 chickens)

Gain Acute Senses and Outflank. Can nominate 1 character and reroll failed to wound on him and his unit for the rest of the game. Don't block each other for cover purposes and all arrive together starting from first turn.

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>>50686943
Oh fuck my dick

>>50686265
>ywn be a guardsman dropping Phosphex bombs out the side of a Valkyrie on a Tau sept world while Fortunate Son(of the Emperor) plays on full blast in the cockpit.

What are the chances Cruddaces writes the coming Tyranid codex?

When will the suffering come to an end?

>>50687004
>Fires of Cyraxus
>AdMech uncover some ancient GC-era Mechanicum tech from the vaults
>Find a canister of gas and some instructions next to it, with a huge 'DO NOT REPRODUCE' label in old Lingua-Technis
>Magi misread it and start producing it for the Guard en-masse, a Forgeworld next to Tau space

Don't give up hope, my lad.

>>50687026
100%

Because your OP monstrous creatures keep blowing up his Leman Russes.

Expect T5 Hive Tyrants and Carnifex's.

>>50686872

Dominions are arguably the best unit in the Codex. The best part is that they're cheap. Five Dominions in an an immolator are only 170pts.

You also don't save money with the bundle squads, btw. Buy them separately from the store. An immolator, 2 weapons, and a blister of 3 bolters is a troop. Don't worry about specific Superiors/Veterans unless you want a different model.

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>>50685925
The correct sketches
>93

>>50685430
Have we gotten any new imperial agents data sheets yet?

>>50686974
With the Formation, 3+ Invuln with RP if they stick close to the spyder.

They also have 2 Wounds, they are T5, They get 4 Rending attacks on the charge with S6, At I6 if they upgrade to whip coils, which they will and they don't give a shit about terrain because Wraith Walk lets them "phase trough" everyhing. They're also Beasts, so they move really quickly.

They're a goddamn nightmare to kill and they basically shred anything in CC once they get there. And even if they manage to lose, they're Fearless.

All this for 40pts a model, plus 3 pts for Whipcoils.

>>50686634

Its mislabeled as aliied, it is actually CAD

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Just starting my KDK army. Is this a decent list of dudes and where should I build up from here?

>>50687075
What app are you using.


Don't tell me this is done in paint.

>>50687086
It's the list builder in the OP.

>>50687075

Get some bikes next, so you can run gore pack, possessed so you can do slaughter cult, a bloodthirster for summoning

So if my War Convocation reaches 1500 points in units, I can upgrade them all for free and swap out weapons right?

https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>>50687092
Oh snap.

Thanks for that.

I haven't been on /tg/ in months.

>>50687086
It is in the OP we put those links there for a reason

>>List Builder if BS doesn't add enough bloat for you
>https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>>50687075
Get some cultists for dirt cheap characters.

are there any other good third party pinup/cheesecake proxies for 40k?

>>50687046

Tfw you play tyranids AND guard and just want balanced codexes for both


In the fluff they're an adaptive, unstoppable threat. In the actual game they're a joke

>>50687004
>>50687045
The story is literally

>Ad Mech Forge World (or holding I forget) gets attacked by Tau
>Ad Mech request aid
>Aid doesn't arrive quick enough
>Ad Mech unseal some statis vaults
>Ad Mech find loads of 30k shit hidden in vaults
>Ad Mech activate all this shit, which goes on a rampage
>Tau then bring in the Ta'unar to rape Ad Mech
>By this time the Red Scorpions arrive to heroically win the day, America style!
>the book ends with Imperium winning, but the Tau used it as a distraction anyway, just as planned, which allowed dozens more planets to be used. The Ad Mech then find STC's or mention 30k shit is in vaults to other Ad Mech places and that's why Ad Mech now has 30k equip

Obviously they won't have phosphex bombs and shit, but it'll be the base models. Oh and Cullen got killed by a Tyranid somehow and is now in a Leviathan Dread. I believe he is put into it on the planet (he's 'dead' but not in a Dread until they land on planet and put him in the empty Leviathan Dread)

I think.

>>50687092
>>50687108
>>50687109
>people bitching ever since this memebuilder was posted about how everyone keeps asking
>/40kg/ finally sees sense and puts it in OP like everyone kept saying
>it's STILL asked about literally every thread

>>50686917
Also I'm too busy now with volunteering to help paint the displays at my local geedubs.. Because despite being jobless, I'd still like to support my store.

>>50687062
WTF. Damn that's pretty ridiculous. I have nothing in my entire army that can even come close to that level of 'worth the points'. That's like a fucking MANDATORY TAKE.

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>>50687057
>'93
>original
Imperial robots are from '88, m8. WD 104 has the old programming rules which were pretty notorious when I started playing.

Fun fact: the quartered scheme is mostly just to hide the fact that the castellan's (the guy in the lower right) legs don't actually match.

>>50687118
>>Tau then bring in the Ta'unar to rape Ad Mech
>>Tau justasplanned distractions every time they lose a fight

Tau confirmed for still being the worst written faction in modern 40k.

>>50687118
> Red Scorpions now have a GODDAMN LEVIATHAN DREADNOUGHT AS A CHAPTER MASTER

FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKK THAT'S SO AWESOME. This totally beats out my own fun of having a deredeo as my first company captain.

>>50687128

I've long ago come to terms with the fact that 99% of the posters here are fucking retards of the highest degree. It's not even laziness that causes them to use programs, they're literally TOO STUPID to build an army without them. There's constantly idiots asking where points for wargear are or how detachments work.

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>>50686834
REEE. DON'T USE THAT PICTURE. LOOK AT HIS LEFT PAULDRON. LOOK AT HOW BAD THAT SHIT IS.

I was so triggered I had to fix that shit. See here.

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>>50687170
Indeed. Rainbow Warriors were first, though.

>>50687170
>yfw the unique Leviathan model has scorpions plastered all over it so the rest of us can't use it as a special relic or venerable Leviathan

>>50687138
I'm not gonna argue, and the text in my pic is for ants. Those Sketches are Jes' update of 80s blob monsters and clearly the inspiration for some of the latest range.

>>50687192

Is this a leak of the next Imperial Armour?

>>50687170
I'm kinda surprised more chapters don't do that honestly - put a Dread in charge. They're immortal and are packed to the gills with weapons.

>>50686796
Sentinels are bad. Get an Imperial Knight.

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>>50687215
We've known about it for months. Most of the units being released have already been shown. The only one they've now release yet is the new Knight Titan.

IA14 is out next year.

>>50687192
>Red Scorpions
yawn

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>>50687118
>malifica

>>50687118
This better not actually be true, if Tau don't actually lose, proper lose, as in not a 'it was a military loss but actually a victory because justasplanned' I'll be mad, if they casually rape 30k tech (which would be another example of the Tau being subtly retconned to be more and more technologically advanced, remember when they and the Imperium were more-or-less evenly matched but with differences in standard equipment's quanity-over-quality? Remember when Tau fluff wasn't 'best tactics, best tech, best use of tech, best philosophy, best troops, best best best?'), there'll be no end to the Canticles of Hatred.

>>50686398
You're clearly a tech-heretic, so I'm guessing Tau.

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>>50687219
>immortal
You say your Chapter Master is in a dreadnought and he's not packing a 3++ because he's a walker? It'd be a shame if someone were to melta him to death and explode him to bits.

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Sup /tg/!

Painting anything right now?

For me, a squad of Necron Warriors.

Letting the wash dry right now before I jump into highlights.

After that, Immortals.

>>50686834
>>50687178
Top fucking kek it's like they put an MS paint text box on his pauldron.

>>50687219
Because Dreadnoughts require lots of sleep and take ages to awake. Many of them forget shit. So they're poor leaders. Culln survived because he's so awesome! Bjorn is 10k old and is constantly fighting daemons or some shit, that entire sequence was dumb. Only Blood Angels are spared the problems of Dreadnought-ing people.

>>50687250
Yes? I said Culln in the original post, who did you think I meant?

>>50687255
Nah they don't rape 30k tech. They lose, even their Ta'unar shit gets raped (because they find Ordinatus in the vaults as well). But the book ends with "Despite the losses and blah blah blah, the Tau took back valuable military information and wrecks and stuff which the Earth caste were greatly interested in, the effort to save Cyraxis drew vital reinforcements from dozens of other planets and they soon fell to the Tau Empire" etc etc.

>>50687219

It's really limiting. It's the reason we don't have jet fighters be our generals IRL. They couldn't fit Dreadnoughts in certain spots so they had to make Centurion suits to do their job. There's also the fact that Dreads require a ton of maintenance and sleep. Leviathans are the worst, as they are so complex their pilots eventually go insane.

Culln wasn't even supposed to be chapter master, their original master died so culln got promoted. Now that Culln is in a dread, the new 8th captain model they're getting is next in line to be master. Again, another emergency master because lol Red Scorpions.

>>50687263
> Implying a Chapter Master Dreadnought doesn't have Armoured Ceramite

Both the Deredeo and Leviathan can take Armoured Ceramite for 20 points. It's practically mandatory for leviathans, since you don't want to die instantly the moment anything melta points your way.

>>50687284

Reaper Bathalians, the heads for Screamers and the bodies for Flamers.

Also a Word Bearers Land Raider.

>>50687170
Iron warriors have a lot of captains leading companies and they're more relevant than red scorpions

>>50687284

Don't forget to give your paints a good shake, and roll your brush to get a nice, fine tip. And always remember to thin your paints!

>>50687263
Does it have armored ceramite?

>Implying he would last 2 turns of wraithknight

>>50687219
Dreads are mentally unstable, the tech wasn't perfected before they started shoving corpses into boxes and now they're worthless

>>50687219
The Dark Hunters Master of the Forge is a dreadnought from HH who's never been turned off.

He's still sane because he willingly got in the dread and knows how to repair himself or something like that, haven't finished reading the book yet.

>>50687297
>"the effort to save Cyraxis drew vital reinforcements from dozens of other planets and they soon fell to the Tau Empire"

Okay, the rest sounds fine, but this is the one thing that bugs me. It seems almost as if the writers cannot physically have the Tau lose these days without them gaining some sort of advantage or territory out of it. I don't see why we couldn't just have them outright lose for once, something they've basically never done thanks to the past few years of rectons and/or tweaks.

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>>50687317
These are the 40k rules.