pathetic anon asking for advice

>>50676151
You stop being an autistic piece of shit, all of you.

Fucking subhumans.

>>50676151

Kill yourself or learn to be a functioning human being that can interact with others without spaghetti spilling

>>50676151
She's a human being, you fucking autists. Just treat her like you'd treat anyone else.

>>50676151
Have you tried treating her as a person?

Have a wank before the sesh and spend more time around women. Are you 14 or something?

>>50676163
>>50676167
I am trying that. I just get intimidated. It doesn't help that she's kinda cold and distant, so I can't interact with her in a "relaxed" way.
>>50676177
It's not like I get a boner just by sitting next to her. It's more like I try really hard not to make a fool of myself and that makes me act like a fool. Does that make sense?

I'm 19 and a kissless virgin (obviously.)

Have you tried not being a hormone addled teenager?

>>50676203
Yes. I also tried turning it on and off again. I'm still a cringey idiot around women, and so is the rest of my group actually. Except one dude who is the Chad of the band, but she seems to dislike him.

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>>50676151
Listen anon, if she stayed during four games with you dming miserably it obviously means that she wants the d. If I were you I'd start injecting progressively your fetish in the game and start hitting on her by making subtle allusions during play. Trust me, I'm a real casanova.

>>50676239
Well if you can't handle the heat kick it out of your group.

Or have her wear a paper bag on her face to hide her weapons zed beauty or som ed shit, maybe a clown nose and a fake toothbrush mustache or something.

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>>50676262
Chicks love that shit.

>>50676151
Just don't care about it anon.

>>50676262
Not falling for that. She's so out of my league we're not playing the same sport, hell we don't live in the same realm of existence.
>>50676269
That would be unfair tho. It's not like she's trying to make us uncomfortable. She comes to the session in her work clothes and she barely wears makeup.

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>>50676283
That and classy deodorants like Axe.

>>50676151
>Exalted game.

I stopped right there, before I even TRIED to read further. /tg/, you've tricked me before. You've made a damned dastardly fool of me. But not this time!

It was a good try, but nobody actually gets to play Exalted.

>>50676317
>She's so out of my league we're not playing the same sport
Then why care what she thinks?

>guys, a perfect opportunity has arisen to help cure me of my social awkwardness

grab this chance by the pussy

>>50676151
Tell yourself and your cruddy friends to stop thinking with their dicks, and get their heads in the game. She's not going to fuck any of you, so stop seeing her as a chick and start looking at her as a fellow player.

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>>50676151

>>50676317
She's probably a skinnyfat 5/10 at best and OP is such a faggot that he gets uncomfortable with her. Post a picture of her and you so we can judge your hopelessness level.

>>50676151

Assuming that this is genuine (which I don't entirely believe) the thing is to just be self-aware of it. You're already calling yourself out about it, aware you're not acting like you think you should. Just keep that awareness going and try to keep it "in the moment". Bring it up to the GM, see if he feels the same way.

As for how to deal with the awkwardness, that'll go away as the game continues and you grow use to this new player.

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>>50676193
>I'm 19 autist and a kissless virgin (obviously.)
Here, ftfy.

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OP just romance her character

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>>50676151
Nice bait.

But you know what's the really scary part?
At least part of it might be genuine. Or worse - somewhere in the world there is a collosal faggot like OP, who went through all of this, but genuinely.

>>50676283
>>50676283
Who the fuck would waste a 5th level spell slot on charming someone?

>>50676375
Someone who really doesn't want their spell to fail.

>>50676151
At this point, jerk off before the session.
And according to your posts, I urge you to stop idolizing her. Try to discuss normally, it should help. The best way to get better at human contact is experience.

>>50676346
I don't know. I'm dumb I guess.
>>50676348
That's a great way of looking at it.
How do you.. actually do that tho?
>>50676356
>>50676368
I'm being serious. This isn't a "womyn ruin everything" thread I think it's cool that girls are getting into rpgs.

Yes my friend feels the same way, in fact I talked to everyone about it after the first session. The moment she went out of the door we looked at each other and basically went "holy shit is that girl gorgeous wtf is she doing hanging out with us??"

>>50676428
>Implying any of it ever happend
>Implying OP isn't a total faggot
Anon...

>>50676151
The obvious choice (as many anons already suggested) is to treat her like a human being.

Other than that, you could try to get more female players into your group. This may sound counter-productive but my group is currently exactly 50% female and I’ve never had any problems. That way she wouldn’t be "the Female" anymore.

>>50676430
Ok, let's indulge for a brief moment with this pathetic bait
You've got a serious hormonal problem. 19 years old aren't that horny, no matter fucking what. ESPECIALLY if they are kisseless virgins. It's that fucking simple.
Go see a doctor, he will give you receipt to go through endocrinological tests. Who knows, maybe you have some serious biological instability?

Some mean responses here.

Honestly this is something you've got to deal with in life. Beating off early in the day will probably help and mysogny helps a great deal.

>>50676428
Why not jerking off during the session?

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>>50676443
>mysogny helps a great deal

>>50676446
Yeah at the start of every game just gather round the Girl and cum on her face. Make it part of the roleplay!

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>>50676443
Oh, look, it's the "I've been a horrible piece of shit for so long I've started to hate women due to unwillingness to stop being subhuman" post!

>>50676193
The wank works senpai. You don't notice it but you behaviour changes depending on the last time you wanked.

But don't have it before the session, have it on the morning or even better the night before.

>>50676151
stick ponos in vagoo

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>>50676465
This picture never suited the situation better

>>50676193
>It's not like I get a boner just by sitting next to her
liar liar pants on fire this is transparently about you being a horny little toad

>>50676151
Imagine her dumping a fat ogre shit to break the idolatry. Remember, she does it constantly, maybe even once a day.

Unless you're into that crap. Don't imagine her doing it if you're into it, just find another thing.

>>50676428
>>50676443
>>50676468
All right the wank motion is unanimously passed. I shall try that tomorrow.

>>50676480
I'm not saying I never got a hardon. Just not all the time.

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>>50676151
I'm ready to give you the benefit of the doubt, and I'll probably anwser to an obvious bait knowing it could at least be useful to some other younger posters.

First of all, if she's here that's probably because she's a nerd, just like everyone else at your table. So treat her as such, and not as some walking fantasy. It's a person just like you or me with which you should (and must) communicate as a sane human being, and not a confetti-farting princess to which you must dedicate your lusty thoughts 24/7.
If her mere presence is enough to send you all into the bottomless pit of needless drama, then I recommand you to apply an heavy dose of this useful thing called "porn", that you can use beforehand to relieve yourself of your unrequired sexual impulses.

Beyond that, just deal with it and respect her without putting her on a pedestal as if she were the eighth wonder of the world, you hormonally uncalibrated idiots.

Let's be honest, we've all be here, as young horny males. So I can't even be mad at the idea of youngster spilling spaghettis out of their pockets at the mere presence of a woman. This actually makes me chuckle, heavily.

>>50676151

cute girl that know's shit and plays well

of fucking course this story is real

ahahaha

fuck off

>>50676193
>I'm 19
So you are telling me, OP, you somehow survived that long, while being completely unable to handle basic social interaction and self-control, skills that comes with just being around humans?

Have you've been home-schooled? And this is a genuine question here.

>>50676526
Random anon here, but your reading comprehension is laughable. Have you read past the first line of his bait?

>>50676151
You have the power of pheromones with you. Urinate around the table before the session to mark your territory - this will intimidate all your players and make you look alpha as fuck. I also recommend to avoid showering or bathing for a while. The chick won't be able to resist your aura of masculinity.

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>>50676512
As a guy who went through similar shit (but I was fucking 15 back then and she really was fucking gorgeous... still is), this anon is right how to handle this.
On the other hand, I've figured it out myself, rather than looking for advices.

>>50676433
Second. Honestly your issue could be just lack of exposure to women and a good way to fix that, with the added benefit of seeing who else likes tabletop games, is to find more. Eventually your awkwardness will hopefully subside and your ability to enjoy games will go up significantly.

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Stick a potato in your underwear before playing.

Protip: Stick the potato in front, not behind.

>>50676512
Thanks for the advice. Maybe I just need to get accustomed to her presence over time, build up a tolerance. Also apparently, I need to wank constantly.

>>50676540
I wasn't homeschooled but I dropped out of high school in the first year. Before that I was already awkward and had social anxiety. I mostly stay at home on the computer. Roleplaying is one of the only things that make me go out for a bit.

>>50676561
Well I admitted I'm pathetic right off the bat. But the other guys in my group feel more or less the same so it's not just me.

>>50676575
I keep hoping for that to happen but I spent like 10 hours around her already and it has not gotten better.

>>50676193
>intimidated
There we go. Hang out with her after games, find out more about who she is as a person. Find her flaws and humanity. Does she fart? Yes. Does she have shitty days? Yes. You guys seem to be putting her on a pedestal and that's not fun, even for her. Pretty sure she's noticed it too.

>>50676603
>I spent like 10 hours around her already and it has not gotten better
Yep, you have no social skills.
10 hours is the time needed to breefly familiarise with someone, assuming you already knew each other from workplace or uni or even school, you inept faggot. You won't even KNOW her until you spent roughtly 100 hours of conversation and interaction. And since you apparently only game together, it will take you some serious time.

And admitting being pathetic doesn't makes you any less pathetic.

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Dude, you seem to have some anxiety issues or some shit. Like, I believe you, man. I've seen 23 - 26 year old men treat some women at the table like ideal waifus/ japanese idols (and these women encouraging that sort of behaviour as well, which isn't cool.) Anyway, I suggest you just play it cool. The fact that you're worried about losing your spaghetti probably means you're behaving like a normal human being. Also the act she sticks around probably means the same thing.

SO NIGGA, ACT COOL. You just need to all wear your sun glasses, engage in banter and have a good time like you used to. The faster you can get into banter (protip: if you're not comfortable in bantering about her, don't do it. Don't even think of bantering about losing your spaghetti or her looks.) And then play the game have a good time and then profit. Try to get over it with exposure therapy. A beautiful women is not that scary once you've learned to live with them. You don't need to emditate under a waterfall, masturbate 12 times a day or learn the way of the tao to git better at human interaction. I know it's shitty advice, but the only way to git gud is by doing the thing.

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>>50676645
>You don't need to emditate under a waterfall, masturbate 12 times a day or learn the way of the tao to git better at human interaction. I know it's shitty advice, but the only way to git gud is by doing the thing.
Not the OP, but that's one of the better advices in this thread, so keep it up.

>>50676432
I don't care if it's real or not.
We're on /tg/; as long as you're polite, ask questions and you'll get answers.

>>50676151
pick up lines, find the lamest pick up lines you can think of and tell em to her as a joke.

make sure you tell her it's for the laughs, (it's obvious that its not, but put the burden of paranoia on her.) she'll either split. or you'll get over your own insecurities and have a good time.

also, wear deodorant.

>>50676546

>comprehension is laughable

I think yours ain't better really.

If your read my response again you should notice "know's shit" and "plays well".

Something showing that i understood this from SECOND sentence. But you didn't.
I have no idea how my post implies lack of reading comprehension at all.

Only thing that is a sore is that i called it 'story' incorrectly as its more of a question. But that was intentional as in 'cool story bro' as its obvious that this story is a blatant bait and a fake as chicks like this don't exist.

Go being hypocritical faggot somewhere else.

>>50676453
It's true though, feeling like that makes you learn to stop caring about superficial stuff like what's on the outside and really focus on what's inside, and hating it. A bit of misanthropy goes a long way towards curing a lot of social anxiety, about half as good as valium, but much cheaper.

Masturbate and then shower in the cold water before every session.
Meditate often.

>>50676151
just wank before the sessions

Take a pic of her (grab one from her facebook or w/e) and have a proper wank to her, shortly before the session.

>>50676151
>All those "you need to masturbate" posts
How to spot people trapped in being forever virgin on their own admission.
Wanking off won't help. And on the large scale, it will only fuck up OP further, making him then unable to have normal sex without therapy, due to prolongued masturbation issues.

Instead, just start having fucking interactions with other humans, OP. Dunno, you sound like someone still living with his parents. Start doing shopping for your mother. It's amazingly easy way to learn how to handle other people for inept idiots like you - buying groceries.
Start having a social life, goddamnit. ANY form of social life, because as it seems right now, you are so fucking sheltered from human interaction it's actively hurting you.

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>>50676681
And here is the thing I was talking about previously - that some elements in this thread might be genuine and that's sickening.
Kill your fuckng self.

>>50676512
>Let's be honest, we've all be here, as young horny males. So I can't even be mad at the idea of youngster spilling spaghettis out of their pockets at the mere presence of a woman. This actually makes me chuckle, heavily

This was my first thought, assuming for a moment that this isn't just bait, people are being too harsh on OP.

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>>50676681
>Turning your entry-tier social anxiety into open hate to people will fix you up
Have you tried eating a bullet?

>>50676726
OP admitted being 19. It means he's past the age where this shit is excusable. If he was 14 or so, it would be right on the money. Meanwhile, he's legally adult and can't handle female presence.

So no wonder people are harsh

>>50676239
Ohhhhhh. I see what this is. Don't worry dude be as awkward as you want, she's loving it.

This is your typical queen of the nerds type girl. She loves hanging with a bunch of basement dwelling Delta males because she basically runs you guys. She dislikes Chad because he keeps his spaghetti in check. I've seen this many times. Don't give in. Treat her like any other player.

>>50676193
>I am trying that. I just get intimidated. It doesn't help that she's kinda cold and distant, so I can't interact with her in a "relaxed" way.

Stop lying to yourself that you're not attracted to her. Speaking as a former 'nice guy' awkward creeper, if you're super nervous and intimidated talking to them its because you're worried about their reaction will make you seem like a lesser person. You have to just honestly not care about it and just talk to them like another person. And not in a 'fuck you I'm saying whatever I want because fuck you' way but in a 'you're an acquaintance and somebody I know socially but I really don't care how this goes down otherwise'

I mean shit, I'm not going to pretend I'm some sort of social wizard, but it's really easy to just put a filter up of 'these are people I work/game with, don't be a fucking creeper'

>>50676716
After you buddy, after you

>>50676730
No thanks, I'd rather share them with needy people like yourselves rather than selfishly hogging them all to myself.

>>50676726
Dude, that was how I acted when I was 15/16. Then I got laid and it got better. Or course, even at the uni, there were sometimes some beauties (I remember one in particular) but just concentrate on the fucking game. She's just a human and if she's that beautiful, she's probably already getting inches from her 2 meter-tall ripped bf. You don't have the hint of a chance. Learn your place, little worms.

>>50676740
I dunno mate, I didn't hit puberty rill I was sixteen and it hit me like a tonn of bricks.

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Alright anon, I'll help you out. I remember what it's like to be a young man.

Just keep in mind one simple thing: bitch be crazy. A hot girl legitimately enjoying a nerd hobby, not just slumming it for geek girl cred? 90% chance that bitch be crazy. Somehow. The better the crazy's hidden, the less you want to be there when it blows. And here's another life lesson for you, one that I had to learn the hard way myself: don't stick your dick in the crazy. Just don't. It's not worth it.

Keep it in mind in your interactions with her: yes she's hot, but you do NOT want the crazy that comes with that. That should help you keep your hormones in check and deal with her like a normal person.

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>>50676681
It's like you are not even trying

>>50676709
>And on the large scale, it will only fuck up OP further, making him then unable to have normal sex without therapy, due to prolongued masturbation issues.
Having been deplyed overseas, I have a reasonably sized sample of people from which I can conclude that masturbating and having lots of sex aren't mutually exclusive.

>>50676769
>19
>16
See the difference?
And don't pretend there isn't one between hormone-crazy teens and people who are obligated by society to hold a stable job

>>50676158
Fucking this. Didn't they teach you people about interpersonal relations in remedial school?
>>50676151
>She's a very serious, engaged player and she knows the game well (more than me)
Then there should be no problems.
Look If her being beautifull is such a distraction for You, just concentrate on other things. Treat her as a friend, another guy in the group. She'll be happy about It.

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>>50676709
>How to spot people trapped in being forever virgin on their own admission.

Or just, you know, not being currently in a relationship.

>Wanking off won't help. And on the large scale, it will only fuck up OP further, making him then unable to have normal sex without therapy, due to prolongued masturbation issues.
... I don't know what to say. You sound like either a tremendous faggot (and not in the littéral sense), either like some butthurt christian who believes that masturbatory habits are calling lucifer upon your soul, which by the way isn't better that idiots believing that D&D is litteraly Hitler-Satan in disguise.

Can't argue with the second part of your post, though.

>>50676783
>using canned "bait" posts against anything you don't like
How lame can you get?

>>50676795
>19
>stable job
What the fuck kind of society do you live in? A lot of teens (19 is still, by definition, teenage) still live with their parents up to some 22 or some shit. I mean fuck, a lot of students don't finish their studies until they are 23/24.

>>50676792
The main difference between them and OP is having sex. OP would end up as a literal wanker, with no sex life and then climaxing in 10 seconds. Or, which is worse, made him so used to strong mechanical stimulus, normal sex won't even work for him due to stimulus being too weak.
Which is a great way to ruin sex life for him and any of his potential partners.

In short - masturbating furiously while being a kissless virgin is a guaranteed way to fuck yourself further.

>>50676799
To not repeat myself: >>50676819

>>50676795
Puberty lasts a few years though, just saying.

>19 year Olds are expected to hold jobs
Most of the 19 year olds I know about are at college on their parents dime or free loading. Where do you live where those over 18 are expected to be employed?

>>50676816
>Student
>Not working to pay his rent and food bills
What kind of sheltered wonderland you live in?

>>50676838
>higher education a possibility
>jobs somehow growing on trees, instead of your whole state being unemployed
MUST BE NICE

>>50676819
>caring about sex this much
Anon please.

>>50676838
A society where I have enough social aids to make it without working. Or yeah, I've already worked during the summer holidays and abroad as well of course but my situation allows me to make it through life without having to work right now.
It's a shit system but I can benefit so why the fuck not?

>>50676819
>>50676832
I guess different people just have different experiences towards masturbation, then. I mean, it never bothered me, neither disturbed my sex life in the slightest, to wank even before meeting my ex-girlfriends.

I am now curious to know from where this belief that masturbation could imbalance anyone this much comes from.

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On a side note I think all the masturbation shit in this thread is pretty shitty advice. Like, it has its upsides and downsides, but I like to compare it to eating potato chips. It can help with some hankerings or whatever, but more than a bag a day can lead down a pretty unhealthy life style.

>>50676681
I was like you once. It can help, but it also easily leads you to being a douche bag and hurting people along the way. The important thing about this PUA style mind set is that it can also make you a fun person to be around (you stop being all holier-than-thou and scared of hurting people's feelings and socially anxious). So the thing to take away is to find strategies that make you enjoyable/ entertaining company and you can be that while still caring for people.

I also think you should interact more, but it's difficult to get better at social interaction through trial and error. Having a gaming group is a good start though. Colleagues and the like should also teach you about normie shit.

>>50676780
Also, this anon is crazy, but he says something valuable: you're obviously attracted to her. You should deal with that in some way. For reasons you think you're out of her league, so you probably are. It may bleed through in your interactions with her, so you're reasonably worried. Try connecting with some girl you think is in your league. Connecting FIRST. Anyway, I'm not your life coach, but that's some quick pointers that come to mind.

>>50676867
>It's a shit system
How so? Sounds pretty nice.

>>50676780
This guy got it, the best example I got of someone sticking it in crazy is from fiction when Deadshot fucked Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad #3 if I remember correctly and then The Joker came after the suicide squad really hard

>>50676854
>Not eating filth of the streets as local warlords recruit you at the ripe age of 10
WEW LA DEE DA

>>50676854
>He doesn't take menial jobs to stay afloat as a student
Nice knowing you are too proud to work. And it's not some sort of "pull by your boothstraps" bullshit. It's just logic. If you study full time, the only job you will be able to hold will be some menial shit like cleaning, waitress or half-hours in an office or maybe graveyard shifts if they allow to sleep when there are no customers. A type of job that will cover your bills perfectly.

Being too pround for that is just fucking stupid. I've spend my 5 years on the uni cleaning windows. For hour of work a day, I was earning enough to stay afloat and still have spare money when needed or to go for summer school. And I fucking hate cleaning. But the alternative was to fucking starve.

>>50676862
He's not wrong though. A bad sex life can fuck up someone pretty good. Sex makes up a HUGE part of our inner selves and is psychologically very important. You can bet that if /pol/ shitters managed to have some regular non-prostitute sex, they'd MUCH less the edgy 14 year old "FUCK THE SYSTEM" brats they are right now.

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>>50676681
I respect your opinion, having been quite cynical for a long time as a way to cope with my own personal issues. But believe me, it hurts you more than it helps you in any meaningful way in the long run.

Try to strike a good balance between being aware of how shitty some human beings can be, and accepting the good in other people when you see it. It is all a matter of equilibrium.

>>50676899
>not being born with a kalashnikov in your hand and forced to fight invading state forces moments after drawing your first breath
You privileged piece of shit

>>50676871
>Belief
Fuckload of studies done by sexuologists in past 40 years?
Because you know there are people researching that stuff... right?

The conclusion was - prolonged masturbation as a substitute for sex life has a down-ward spiral effect on the quality of the sex life later. Main source of data - prisoners and deployed soldiers, but still data nontheless.

>>50676871
>>50676924
Oh, and to clarify - abscence from masturbation gradually reverse the effect, since due to lack of stimuli, sex starts "working" again, as the body no longer is used to having any sort of mechanical stimulation. Premature ejaculation remains an issue, thou.

>>50676924
> prisoners and deployed soldiers
So a study made on people who have a 99% chance of developing psychological traumas from being raped and/or stabbed in showers or witnessing atrocities on the front ? Meh.

>>50676938
>Premature ejaculation remains an issue, thou
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>50676945
>All prisoners are in high-max slam
>All deployed soldiers are combat personel
Anon, just to put some light on it - US soldiers stationed in Germany during the Cold War were considered deployed. Their main activity? Getting drunk and bored.

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>>50676151
>How do we deal with this?
>How do I get over it quickly?

Kick her out, obviously.

>>50676905
He is wrong though,sex being important is mostly a subjective cultural construction. Most people care so much about it because it's tied in our culture to self worth and importance and other important concepts as like acceptance. Take away those cultural tie in and maybe people like the blokes on /r9k/ would stop being obsessed with the whole thing. I mean don't get me wrong, it feels good, but in the end its a lot less important than other things in life.

>>50676867
In my country, to qualify for any sort of benefit as a student, you need to come from EXTREMELY poor family. As in - at least one of the parents is unemployed and the other one is making around lowest national pay. And preferably having a sibling, too.
On the other hand, grants for high average of your grades are rigged so high, you need to have perfect score, publish in scientific newspapers AND you still are competing with 5-10 people for that grant.

In short - you are not eglibed to get any sort of financial support, unless you are some really extreme case.

So people instead work, either part-time to stay afloat or doing double shifts during summer if they are retarded.

>>50676960
>sex being important is mostly a subjective cultural construction
>I'm below 25 and I don't have stable relationship
>Also, I had sex less than 10 times
And before you go with "stop implying" - it's just biology. You are biologically rigged to procreate and enjoy sex. And due to probability, it's most likely you are too young to be under biological imperative than, say, assume you are asexual.

So it's not a cultural construct. It's your own fucking body and hormonal reactions. The same way why women around 30 are all suddenly crazy about having a kid if they still don't have one and are openly insufferable pass 40 if they still didn't get one.

You should try going at parties and events, OP. Also try doing sport with some other people. Like jogging.
The more people you mingle with, the best you'll be at socializing.

>>50676918
>Not being a stillbirth
Check your fucking privilege.

>>50676151

Talk to her like a person,

Also stop being a fucking thirsty desperate sack of shit.

But mainly talk to her like a person.

>>50676955
Fair point. But I feel like these studies are still heavily biased towards the idea that you should have a sex life at all costs. I mean, sexologists. What do you expect from those people if not to tell you that you SHOULD hang up with someone instead of staying alone ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A8rQngSlak

>>50676917
>see good in people
It's all just shades of brown, some are better some worse, but still shit in the end. I guess it's just our punishment for the sins of the first man. God can salvage something good from the rotten souls of men for his heavenly kingdom, but here, in this place I have yet to see reason to believe in the acts of men.

>>50676938
I can actually witness on that part: I know very well how to please myself and can do some very quick job.
With my gf? Shit can be hard as fuck and I sometimes wear her out before I can actually please myself.

>but in the end its a lot less important than other things in life.
>literally the reason the species can continue to exist
>a lot less important
Dude what the fuck. We are sexual animals. From beginning when your masturbate in you mother's womb until we die in our bed with our beloved, we are surrounded by sex. Sex is everywhere in our subconscious and it molds us. Sex is not linked to society, it's the opposite. And sex is linked to nature itself so you CAN'T get rid of it. You see sex when you get up, you see sex when your turn on your TV, you see sex when you go to school/uni and you look at ads with dubious advertisement techniques, when you work and you have that one workmate with a D-cup 2 desks away, when you come back from work and you feel bored enough to put your hand in your pants. Sex is everyfuckingwhere.

>>50676151
>She's a very serious, engaged player and she knows the game well (more than me). She's sort of reserved but she gets along okay with everyone. Now here's the problem: she's really beautiful. Definitely one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen.

Congratulations, OP, you've managed to make me feel so disgusted that I have no words for it.

Some serious pussy licking skills you have there.

>>50677032
There's nothing wrong with licking pussy.

>>50677058
Provided it is literal.

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>>50677029
But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, mein freunde. Everything is sex only if you are desperate to set your mind on this idea.

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Also, allow me to stamp this thread with this pic, for there is some suprisingly enjoyable discussions going on here.

>>50676997
You are still putting undue emphasis on the act anon, I fail to see how how many times I have had Intercourse has any bearing on my arguement.


>you are programed to enjoy sex
I didn't disagree, but you cannot honestly equate "people necessarily enjoy sex and have some breeding instinct" with "people must put sex near the center of their universe"

>it's not cultural
That's sloppy arguing anon. Much of our actions are controlled by cultural influences, and you haven't really given any clear arguments for why sex is any different. You claim it's biology, but many different cultures put different emphasis on sex and consequently people in those cultures consider it important for different reasons. if it were truly biology for everyone to think it so central to their lives it would be universal how people treated it throughout ages and cultures, but that is not the case.

>>50677005
>I'm a virgin and afraid of women
Thanks for confirmation

>>50677101
>troll thread about masturbation and normalfag advice given to a OP for pretending to be a sperg with a hot girl in his group
>not a single traditional game in sight

>best thread on /tg/

Kill yourself please.

>>50677128
>If my personal experience doesn't match thousands of years of evolution and dozens of studies, then the worse for evolution and those studies!
Fortunately, your weak line will die with you.

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>>50676151
Here is what you have to do, OP. Rape her.

Not only will this help you get over your obvious social anxiety, it will be a great team building exercise for you and your friends.

>>50677128
>I never kissed a girl: The Post
Yeah, thanks, we've notice in the previous one already

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>>50677146
>virgin

>>50677128
Care to cite me those cultures where sex doesn't take an important place? I'm not doubting you, I'd actually like to see this. But you still gotta understand that sex toys have existed since the dawn of mankind.

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>>50677146
I've had my relationships, and even some delicious sugar with it, thank you.

But I also feel that you are projecting your own insecurities. Wanna chit chat about that ?

>>50677162
>>50677176

Okay, but how does that address my points?

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>>50676239
>>50676759
>chad

wot, no sugar?

>>50677201
See, the problem is - you are under an impression you have points in the first place. And the sad reality is - you need to finally get laid, or you will turn into a mysogynistic idiot around 30.

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>>50677188
>Discussion about sex and importance of it
>Being a virgin is somehow not an argument

>>50676239
>the Chad of the band, but she seems to dislike him
He's fucking her or will be soon. I 100% guarantee it.

>>50677235
what makes you think hes getting dat pussy?

>>50677191
I wasn't trying to say there is a culture where where sex is not important, I agree that the breeding instinct is strong and universal, what I was trying to say is that there is often different emphasis place on it. For instance for many less developed tribal cultures sex is mainly about producing children, and is therefore important in that light, contrasting to western society's view that sex is more about the act itself than what it produces. I don't really have any hard numbers on that though since I'm no anthropologist, but I think you get the gist. What I was trying to say is that the symbolic importance we place on the act is separate, though not unrelated, to the biological drive. The importance most people place on sex is usually the former and not the latter (an example of this is the other posts trying to insult people as unfit for not having had sex, a cultural right of passage, which is what lends it importance in western societies)

I'm sorry if I was not expressing that coherently.

>>50677188
Not him, but saying that sex isn't important or one of the main drives an adult human being can have is just plain insane. Literally the only reason you could say that honestly is: being asexual (rare), outside of any relationship (probability decreasing with age), or a virgin (pretty common, given it's /tg/).
How a person with no sexual experience can even judge importance of it? It reminds me anti-abortion movement in my country, lead by old bachelor, priest and self-admitted 60-year old virgin. All talking about sex life, while having none.

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>>50677275
Get out.

>>50677260
My guess would be it's a case of "if a strong personality is among feeble ones, then that girl will want the strongest one" type of reasoning.

But if this Chad is a jerk, then she could just as well not be interested in him at all.

>>50677222
You still haven't addressed my points anon, and no saying that I need to get laid is not an arguement, nor is saying I am wrong without any effort at an arguement.

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>>50677283
>priest and self-admitted 60-year old virgin
>priest
>virgin

>>50677296
That's what I've been trying to say all along though. Can you please point out what parts of my previous posts where I gave you a different impression?

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>>50677157
This anon has a point.
This thread is now about making a dating sim rpg.

The players are all students competing to get laid. Ideas ?

>>50677260
>>50677297
What OP interprets as "disliking" him is actually part of the process of establishing dominance through negging, teasing and bantering.
Chads are experts at this kind of shit. She's trying to resist for now but the fact that she is reacting noticeably is a sign that it's working. The second step is her feeling like she has to prove herself to the Chad, that he somehow is inferior. Then he'll turn on the compliments and the charm. Pretty soon she'll be blushing and laughing at his dumb Chad jokes. Then he'll say he wants to be "friends" and establish some intimacy, while still maintain an unbalanced relationship. Then he needs some alone time with her. She lets her guard down. That's when he gets her drunk. Uses his two favorite foreplay moves on her. She gets wet. She's done.

Boom. She just got Chaded.

>>50677316
Sounds like a difficult task just to get laid. Shit was never this difficult for me but true, I've never actually tried to "reach for the stars" in terms of beauty.
Beauty is overrated anyway.

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>>50676681

>all this virgin shaming on the nerdiest hobby board on the site
What the hell, when did /tg/ become majority normalfag?

Question: Are you a scat fetishist?

If yes: Ignore the rest of this post.

If no: Read the following;she had to shit too.

>>50677349
There's no virgin shaming around, just discussion about the importance of sex in life.

>>50677331
>>50677334
Kids: never try to format drunk. Yeah the strategy I laid out is for hard targets and people you don't have a lot of in common with. Hot coworkers etc.

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>>50677331
>replace Chaded by Shaded

>>50677349
>Anons can't have sex
This is /tg/, not /r9k/

>>50677283
Anyone can masturbate though.
>but it's not the same
It's much worse yes, but not qualitatively different.
>only a Virgin could say such things
Nope sorry, traded in my v-card 3 years ago
>w-well it's not like that if you have love/a spark/whatever
But that's not what we are talking about, just sex.

OP here sorry I went afk. There seems to be some sort of drama happening between the beautiful girl and the Story Teller on whatsapp. Will report back when I know more.

>>50677283
>anti-abortion movement
Isn't just about sex you fucking degenerate, its about not killing innocent people inside their own mother's belly.

>>50677275
This anon know more that the so called "biologysts of this thread".
One thing is to be horny or atracted by.
Other thing is what do you do about it.
So you can think that chick is hot, but also known that she is not a fucking demigodess or a puzzle you must resolve to insert penis on vagoo. She is only a human being that want to have fun like you.

>>50676430
Seriously? The best thing to do is to hang out post-game. Don't just pack up after the session and disperse, hang out at DM's or wherever you guys play for a bit. Crack a beer/soda/relaxing beverage of your cultural choice. Chat about what y'all do outside of pretending to be magical fantasy folk. A big part of that will just be chatting to the rest of your group like you would when she isn't around and she'll insinuate herself into the gang.

That is literally a play by play of how to be chill.

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>>50677444
>its about not killing innocent people inside their own mother's belly
>killing innocent people inside their own mother's belly
>people
>degenerate

Abort yourself.

>most active thread on the board is about sex
>mods still haven't done anything
Why has hiroshima nagasaki forsaken us?

>>50676881
> It can help with some hankerings or whatever, but more than a bag a day can lead down a pretty unhealthy life style.

We're not suggesting that he wanks more, but that he should wank in a specific time. Actually, he should probably wank less in order to be more attractive, easy-going and less apathethic before women. But not in this specific situation.

>>50677435
drama~~

>>50677482
What makes them non-persons anon? Try to come up with a definition that would also protect the lives of those to do consider full fledged people, if you can that is.

>>50677522
They dont have a brain.

>>50677388
>implying a majority of /tg/ posters get laid
wew lad

>>50677543
Neither do you, but we still don't openly advocated for your execution.

>>50677381
50 Chads of Grey

>>50677543
They do though in all but the earliest cases.

>>50677444
Are you from India or some backwater shithole ?

>>50677566
So savage
Now i have to make jokes about your mun? Or are you gonna behave like a proper adult?

>>50677002
>>50676167
>always this person thing
>impliying you can't be more attracted and therefore intimidated precisely because you see her as a great person and that's what attracts you

>>50676645
This anon gets it. Also kudos for not acting like a guilttripping faggot like most others in this thread.

Some guys simply do have legitimate issues, and social anxiety can be pretty crippling. And OP is trying to come to terms with that - otherwise, he would've just been bitching about how this girl is totally ruining his gaming group.

It took me two years of therapy just to get to the point that I could properly make a phonecall on my own, so I know bad these things can get

>>50677576
>believing that babies shouldn't be killed is backwards
Yikes, I'd hate to see what kind of "civilized" society you'd run.

>>50677569
Do you think that people usually abort when they have a nearly formed fetus?
Is my country,spain,the most liberal in that matter. Abortion is legal until the fetus has a brain.

>>50677494
Week ago there was an open "niggers are subhumans" /pol/-tier thread going for almost 20 hours and mods didn't do anything. It wasn't even related in the first post with games.

>>50677522
Different anon here, but I once wrote a 20 page position paper on fetal personhood in grad school. The two sentence wrap up would be something like this: Treat the fetus as a cluster of pre-life cells and tissue and ascribe to it an ethical status similar to one you would use for any other animal. Once the fetus itself develops to point of having pain perception and heightened neural activity (third trimester-ish, it's easy to identify on an individual basis as well) treat it as human.

>>50677618
But niggers are subhumans.

>>50677616
So abortion is legal for one month, when the person to be doesn't have a brain?

Your country must not preform very many killings then, that's good.

>>50676151
>girl in game wat do copypasta returns in force

Didn't you guys want the nazi mod back?

>>50677615
Anon people dont abort babies.
Are you a moron?

>>50676151

You should ask her boyfriend. What does he think?

>>50677661
Ha, was thinking just this the entire thread.

>>50677674

It's important that hope gets a chance to build before it's entirely crushed.

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>>50677522
An aborted foetus had no life, no time to develop a personality, to form enough brainmass to be able to reason and to have a better short term memory than that of a goldfish. As such, it is not a person.

But that will not stop you from advocating junkie single mothers having kids when they are unable to support them by themselves, thus forcing you to place those kids inside of institutions where their life will be miserable because fuckers like yourself would prefer to die instead of adopting a single one of them, am I wrong ?

But it's alright anon, you definitely did God's work by letting those foetuses develop into full fledged kids, who are now free to suffer and die in a gutter along the road. Yeah, you did aaaaalriiiight.

>>50677625
I've already taken my mandatory ethics course mate where the bottom line was "there's never going to be a single good answer" as well as reading the official stance of medical ethics boards. I was just poking fun at the guy since I sincerely doubt he's actually got a thought out stance and is mostly acting on gut feelings.

>>50677696
Cool, you're on the up and up then. I've sat in on many hospital ethics boards and yeah, the consensus of the philosophers is that there will never be consensus.

>>50677692
>No Life
It is the definition of life.
>no time to develop a personality
Neither has a newborn, it's still murder to smother it.
>not formed enough brain mass
So even though we all know that the baby would develop that, and a personality and be born if you dont kill it, it's okay since it doesn't have some arbitrary feature?

>>50676589
>I'm really good at Providing Libertarian Solutions to everyday problems

>>50677692
>But it's alright anon, you definitely did God's work by letting those foetuses develop into full fledged kids
Wow that's awful of you to assume that to be against murder a person must also have some sort of religion, come on its 2016 already!

>>50677745
>the consensus of the philosophers is that there will never be consensus.
Yep, that's how it goes. Doesn't make it any less fun to pointlessly argue about it though. I try to stay sharp by arguing for the other side from time to time just to remind myself of it.

>you're on the up and up
You sound pretty cool yourself anon, keep on truckin.

>>50677602
Exactly.

Funny how a lot of people here seem to think that "I can't help feeling attracted to her" equates "A TALKING BLOWUP DOLL WALKED INTO MY LIFE AND NOW I MUST SEX".

Some of us are attracted to individuals precisely because of their personality. It shouldn't even take a whole lot of emotional maturity to understand that.

>>50676151
Fap twice before the game.

>>50677779
A newborn suffers
A highly developed fetus suffers.
A woman without resources suffers.

A mass of cells does not.

>>50677847
Being sexually atracted to girls is sexist, check your privilege!

>>50677890
Okay, then I killing in a painless manner is okay, since no suffering = no wrong?

>>50676151
She sounds awesome. And if you play well, she'll keep coming, which means you can see her all you want. Which means you don't need to gawk like an asshole now.

Just play the goddamn game.

>have no less than three beautiful women as fellow graduate students
>plus crushing hard on one professor
>manage to work with them as colleagues and become friends with some of them
It's not even difficult. You just note, "yep, she's attractive," and move the fuck on with your shit.

>>50677932
Anon the point is that a mass of cells is not human yet.
Do you masturbate a feel guilty about it?

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I really love this hobby, I've been dealing with a lot of personal issues and this thread really gave me some new perspective. It boggles my mind all the possibilities that led me up to this moment to feel this way
Thanks for the good read /tg/ sorry for blogpost

murder is a-ok if it's for the good

>>50677996
>that's not the point
Oh, it isnt? The point you brought up isn't a point because it's critically flawed? Okay.

>it's a mass of cells
So are you.

>masturbation
Except a sperms would never become a life alone, a fetus is all but garenteed to become a person if you don't kill it first.

>>50678020
You go full holocaust evertime you fap, you MONSTER

>>50678062
But it is not a person yet.

It's a parasite, completely reliant on its host for sustenance and safety.

You wouldn't think twice over removing and squishing a tick, would you?

>>50677932
Look, even if we accept your theory that a zygote is a human (and presumably the mere potential of a zygote is not also just as deserving of protection), the vast, vast majority of abortions occur in situations where the fetus could not survive outside the womb. It's not just a question of whether the fetus deserves to live, but whether you can force the woman to support the fetus.

Now, I'm not 100% familiar with squatter law, but you are entitled to remove unwanted residents from your property, and a woman's body is her property. I think that there are exceptions if the property isn't being used at all, but a woman is definitely using her body and a fetus has no inherent right to that.

>>50677779
You argue that abortion is murder, yet you fail to grasp a single, yet crucial factor on the legality of abortion : Whether it is legal or not, some mothers will abort.

So, in one case, they can do this in institutionalized clinics where people doing the thing can be held accountable should any dire consequences arise for the mother.

In the other, they'll have to resort to much more shady means, potentially endangering her very life.

I see your next argument coming : "but legal abortion will incentivize people to abort!"

In fact, not really. Most people who seek abortion, such as rape victims, have long since made their mind up, and whether or not it is okay, they will do it.

Mothers toeing the line will more often than not carry their child to term, because of the social stigma surrounding the issue, as well as the maternal instincts.

Were you a reasonnable person, I would encourage you to research more into this matter and why the cases you are most likely imagining are not coherent with reality : abortion being a decision made by the mother with peace of mind and every fiber of her being hellbent on doing it is very rarely a thing. I'd argue that even if it was, then I pity the child's life if they do make it out of the womb.

But I suspect you to be a ragging faggot screaming "muh murder" with a ready-made view on the issue based on very little except assumptions and rumors, and so I'll advise you to kill yourself instead.

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>>50677779
So you view the differences between, let's say, on one side a big half-formed cell cluster having only the most basic fonctions needed to be able to sustain itself on it's mother's bloodstream, and on the other side a 30 weeks foetus who starts to have a semblency of human form and whose brain is only just slightly firing up, "arbitrary" ?

Just tell me that you are crying for every single cancerous cells that are destroyed by chemotherapy nowadays, and I'll be ready to call you an hypocrite. Because aborting a foetus is just that - denying a bunch of cells the chance to develop furtherto not ruin someone's life. It's not a person, it's not even a baby. It's just a bunch of cells.

> anon, are you comparing a foetus to a cancer ?

Yes. Because once again, It, Is, Cells. Not a person. There's is nothing moraly wrong to stop it's growth. If you are viewing it as a person, it only means that you are projecting onto it your own view of what it could be, and not of what it really is at the moment of it's abortion.

Also, you can call "abortion" a "murder" as many times as you want, it won't change the fact that denying a person the right to abort its pregnancy instead of having a child that she won't be able to responsibly take care of is akin to admiting that you would prefer to rely on the slight chance for this "future child" to somehow magically finding happiness in a shitty and miserable life later, without any guarantee of it whatsoever, considering it was unwanted in the first place.

And if that's the case, I'll consider that you are an irresponsible idiot for having this opinion of yours, and just call it a day.

>>50676664
>wear deodorant.

This x1000.

>>50676151
You can deal with it by killing yourself.

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>>50678140
>it's
>its
Damn, I just triggered myself.

>>50678062
They point is that we are discussing about if its murded or not because you think that a cigote is an human being, only because it have the posibility of becoming one.
Let me repeat again: they only reason you think is murde is because a cigote that is not yet a human being can became one.
>is not yet an hunan being
>murder
You are betraying yourshelft anon. Stop playing avocate of the devil if you dont know how to debate seriusly.

>killing a mass of cell by interrupting consciusly an biological process is murder
>jacking of consciusly killing a mass of cells in the process is not.
The only arbitrary point you make is that
A cigote can became a complete fetus alone.
What its not true, it needs the help of the mother to do their development.
Its not a complete organism.
So following your reasoning masturbating could equal killing.

grow the fuck up or leave the party, nobody will want you around for long if you can't fucking grow up so figure out which one you want to do.

>>50678111
>still ignoring your mistake

>it's a parasite dependant on its parent for food and safety
So is a baby, so killing one is okay because it can't survive unaided?

>ignores that his point has been proven wrong once again moving the goalposts

>>50678116
Excel in this case the "owner" of the building invited the squatter in, and then decided to turn that squatter out into the dead of artic winter knowing full well that means garenteed death.

>>50678120
I never said it was murder, or that it was illegal. So before you go on long rants please try reading more closely before you make embarrassing posts like this in the future. I'll humor you though.

>some people will abort anyways
And some people will always break the law putting themselves and others in jars way, there's no reason to recind law and order because of it

>most women who abort are rape victims
Pattently rediculous.

>those who are only considering it don't usually abort because of social pressure
Right, like all the social pressure in thus thread where everyone seems to he okay with killing the fetus and think believing it is wrong is unconcionable?

>strawman
>more strawman and an insult
I won't even bother responding to this filth.

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>>50678318
>says others are moving the goalposts
>talks about killing babies

Yeah right. Just abort yourself, already.

>>50678140
Yes those differences are arbitrary, until the point where it satisfy your warped definition of personhood every cutoff point you choose is arbitrary and only so you can feel better about killing it.

>comparing a natural nonharmful process of fetal development which leads to a full fledged human to a unorganized cluster of nonfunctional cells that actively harm health
Absolutely rediculous.

>it's just cells
And so areyou, you can scream this from the rooftops as much as you want if it makes you feel better about your immoraloty, but it doesn't change what you are advocating.

>muh murder
Again I never used that word in the context you claim.

>claims killing a potential person is a right
The right to life is inalienable, there is no right to kill.

>>50678318
>I never said it was murder
Yes, you did, either by using the word "killing" or by direct comparison of abortion to smorthering a baby.
>>50677444
>>50677615
>>50677779

>Most women who abort are rape victims is ridiculous.
I said that rape victims were among the women who had a strong motivation to abort. Nothing more or less.

>Social pressure in the thread
There is a difference between a handful of faggots on a bolivian clay cup anonymous forum telling you that fetuses are not living being and actual peer pressure to abort. You can't abort on a whim and get to keep your standing in most social circles.

>muh strawman
Telling you to fuck off and do your research is not a strawman.

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>>50678289
>possibility of becoming one
Actually that's an inevitability, and it's important. If we didn't consider the future then it maybe fine to kill anyone who even for a moment stops exhibiting all the hallmarks of personhood. Considering future implications of our actions is crucial to morality. So stop pretending otherwise.

>the child needs it's mother so it's okay to kill it
And a newborn needs care too, but last I checked infanticide was considered very wrong morally and legally

>>50678568
Can you reread and respond without cherrypicking? Thanks.

>>50678534
Killing is not the same as murder as you yourself pointed out murder is a legal term, killing is not. And comparison is not the same as statement either.

>I just said rape victims are some who want to abort
You still equated rape victims with most of those who get an abortion, trying to make the motivations of rest of those who do get them seem more pressing and worthy.

>social pressure exists, even though there's no real proof, trust me even though most of the western world thinks like me most people don't think it's okay
Yeah, right.

>insults and claiming that I already made up my mind and was not reasonable therefore wrong is not a strawman
Please

>>50676193
maybe she is cold and reserved because she loves Roleplaying but has no other chice but so sit with autistic neckbeards whose every look lusts after her body?

>>50678684
either that or she's intimidated too
pretty girls can also be shy it happens

>>50677834
Thanks man, you too.

>>50676151
OP, where the fuck is our whatsapp drama update? Shit's getting weird in your thread.

>>50678603
Those were your only arguements in the post except for your strawman where you claimed that I must think sperms dying is equal to killing a person even when I'm had already explicitly explained why this wasn't the case.

>>50678697
>pretty girls
>shy
Unless she has some real trauma in her past that's not likely. Shyness develops from lack of positive fear back or mistreatment, beautiful people don't often have either. The halo effect and all that.

>>50678762
Shyness can also be a consequence of low confidence, sheltered childhood, weird education, inexperience, etc. It can be completely contextual and she might be shy only in the presence of a bunch of bearded nerds.

>>50678785
Low confidence usually stems from the things I already mentioned like lack of positive feedback.

>weird education, being very sheltered
True, but I was kind of lumping that in wit generic trauma.

>inexperience
Kind offorgot about that fair enough.

>>50678684
hot

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>>50678465
>Yes those differences are arbitrary, until the point where it satisfy your warped definition of personhood every cutoff point you choose is arbitrary and only so you can feel better about killing it.

Except there is nothing arbitrary about it, and you seem to fail to grasp it even in the slightest.

> Absolutely rediculous.
A cancer is directly harmful to a person in the long run.
An unwanted pregnancy coming full term is indirectly harmful in the long for both the mother who didn't wanted the child in the first place, as well as for the unwanted child himself.
Not so farfetched, if you stop looking at the facts with a biggoted vision and just take them for what they are.

>And so areyou, you can scream this from the rooftops as much as you want if it makes you feel better about your immoraloty, but it doesn't change what you are advocating.
Alright. Please explain to me, clearly, what is "immoral" about aborting a foetus, considering you can't discociate this act from external factors such as... let's see. Oh, yes, the fact that if it is aborted, then it is probably for a good reason, and not just on a whim as you seem to believe ?

>Again I never used that word in the context you claim.
Sorry, my bad. It is true that you were speaking of killing newborns, and that you still keep on implying that they should be viewed as being on par with foetuses. Even as I, and other anons, already explained to you how you are factually wrong.

>The right to life is inalienable, there is no right to kill.
What is killing a terrorist before he detonates his bomb ? What is shooting down a mass murderer on a rampage ? What is executing an unrepentant criminal ?
There are cases when killing someone is the right thing to do, and where this right must be denied to some for a better outcome to others. So why should aborting a non-person be wrong ?
By the way, I hope that with that rhetoric of yours, you are a vegan. Else, how hypocritical of a statment for you.

>>50678714
I'm here. Obviously this thread is now about.. aborting.. semen? Not sure. But it's not about my boring life anymore so I refrained from boring blogposting.

Since you asked though, I now have an excuse!

Kelly said to our DM that she's looking for another group because she obviously doesn't "gel with our vibe" (her words). He's trying to get her to stay by promising we'll be nice to her.. That's basically it lol.

>>50678923
Bah. If she leaves, no drama. If she stays, that's good as well.

Kudoes anyway, anon. Your thread is lively, even though it really drifted somewhere else in the meantime.

>>50676158
/thread

>>50678923
youve done it now you troglodytes you scared her away
this is why girls cant get into the hobby

>>50676151
Oh, I don't know.. Treat her like another human being? with respect? This is not fucking hard to do - I know people with social disorders that, while having problems speaking to people still can and do.

The easiset way to get over this is to drop the "girls are icky" bullshit and just talk to her like a fucking person.

>>50676151
What does she look like THis is important

>>50676151
get tinder and start flirting
start weight lifting and working out 5 times a week
cut out soda, chips, sweets immediately.

alrigt so if you do this, you will get a confidence boost pretty quick. it will go from there.

>>50678869
> it's not arbitrary because I say so so there
Except it is, choosing some point where some structure in the featus has formed, while it still clearly doesn't meet your criteria for personhood is absolutely the definition of arbitrary.

>a child is harmful
Yeah no, you cannot equate bodily harm and painful death from cancer to having and child.

>why is it wrong to kill someone that though at this moment doesn't satisfy my criterion for personhood, but I know will one day
Gee anon, I don't know why is killing wrong?

>b-but the killer probably have a good reason
Still not a valid excuse.

>you are factually wrong
Except all you and those like you have posted are opinions

>compares taking the life of someone who actively trying to kill others in violation of their right to life to killing a fetus who has done nothing
Are you retarded? There is nothing similar in the two situations whatsoever. There idnss never a justification to kill an innocent. Even idnss idnss creates an "good" outcome for you you kill happy piece of shit. You care nothing for the sanctity of life, I'll bet you'd let parents kill their dependants if you thought it made everyone's life better. God you disgust me, I can't even tolerate hearing you spout this monstrous filth any longer. May God have mercy on your soul.

>>50676512
this, here

>>50678986
continuing from here (this is me), i went from virgin to currently dating a 9.5 with starting tinder

>>50676430
>I don't know. I'm dumb I guess.
You hit your problem right on the head. You're dumb. Now smarten up and ignore her gender and look at her as a player.

Want to go "meta" Pretend that you are all RP characters yourselves, and she is a dude playing a girl playing an RPG.

>>50679035
>perpetrating the cycle of abuse and horror that is the poor persons life is good and in accordance with Gods holy plan.

>>50676167
This is a good example of shit people say when they were never teenage boys.

>>50678946
Two players got involved in sweet talking her and it seems like she'll come to the game tomorrow.
I'd rather she stay. Her character is actually really cool even if se's a lying conniving piece of shit who always talks us into doing her dirty work.
>>50678973
She's chinese-canadian, tall and weirdly symmetrical. She's not like "cute" she's legit beautiful.
>>50678986
Thanks those sound like good advice. Will definitely get more exercise at least.

>>50676761
>No thanks, I'd rather share them with needy people like yourselves rather than selfishly hogging them all to myself.

But, you only need one...

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>>50679035
>b-but the killer probably have a good reason
>compares taking the life of someone who actively trying to kill others in violation of their right to life to killing a fetus who has done nothing

And there, you said it. "Killing a foetus". "The killer had a good reason". For you, aborting IS murder, and as such, you ARE an hypocritical scum for denying saying it sooner.

>>50679081
Yeah, this, anon.

Ok, I'm out. Have fun circle-jerking, you self-righteous imbecile.

>>50679148
>she's asian
oooh i get it now

This thread is going places...

>>50678954
Speak for yourself. I've had half a dozen groups that included women, and one where I was the only guy at the table.
And it's even worse for larpers here.

>>50678718
No man, if you readed my post i was saying that:
You argument is logically flawed because by saying that a fetus is a yet to become human being, you cannot murder it.
Because is not human.
But you still insints that killing a fetus is murder because it can became an human.
that why i said:
>You are betraying yourshelft anon

Then i was i said was:

the only arbitrary point you make is that
A cigote can became a complete fetus alone.
What its not true, it needs the help of the mother to do their development.
Its not a complete organism.

>needs the help of the mother to do their development.

Means that the mother is not only the caretaker but the DIRECTOR. The mother body is directly making the fetus directing the cell division and tissue germination with proteins and hormones. Until the fetus have a brain, in that phase the mother its only a CARETAKER.

Thats its why i dont find your "inevitable" argument valid because. And that is why i said:

>killing a mass of cell by interrupting consciusly an biological process is murder
>jacking of consciusly killing a mass of cells in the process is not.

Because in both cases you kill cells yet to become human by controling your body metabolism and hormones.

Also:
>Considering future implications of our actions is crucial to morality. So stop pretending otherwise.
Yean when someone is braindeath, whe declare him death.
When whe kill a brainless mass of cells is not a murder.

And yes you are talking about murded, because we are discusing the morality of killing a fetus.

>>50679306
>What its not true, it needs the help of the mother to do their development.
And for the fetus to be able to turn into a human, it needs to be not aborted. The argument is moot.

>>50679199
Ever notice how "Pro lifers" never call themselves "Anti-choice"? I call them "Anti-choice misogynists"

>>50676337
But why?

>>50679251
fetishists...

>>50679331
>And for the fetus to be able to turn into a human, it needs to be not aborted. The argument is moot.

The abortion means that the help of the mother ceases, not that the mother interrupt a biological process of the fetus.

Not sure why everyone talks like it's completely bizarre how OP and DM feel, this is actually a lot more common than it seems.

>>50679423
Also i was saying that the mother is not only the caretaker but the maker of the fetus. But you forgot that part, because you didnt study embriology despite that you think you can have an opinion about facts.

>>50676151
MASTURBATE BEFORE THE GAME.

YOU CAN EVEN GET THE GUYS TOGETHER IN SECRET, HAVE A BONDING CIRCLE JERK

NOTHING GAY 'BOUT A JERKOFF WITH YOUR BROS

Formerly hot, now old, female here. Listen well young one.

The main problem here is not your lust, if that was the case you would be hitting on her, ruining the game through pointless competition with the other young men, and generally making an ass of yourself. You lust, but you have enough maturity to not let it be an issue.

The first and most important thing to understand is that your problem is actually your shame over your lust.

I don't know her, so I could be wrong, but going by your description she sounds like a decently mature person so I'll make some assumptions.

Second, realize that she is the hardened veteran of these situations. Sure its from the desired female side, but as long as she is capable of empathy that doesn't make as much of a difference as you might think. She knows. She knows everything. And how is she reacting? Ignoring it and playing games with you guys. Follow her lead.

Third, with the way you guys are handling it, its awkward for her sure but less so than for you. This is something she is pretty used to and being spaghetti is actually far lesd annoying than being overtly lecherous.

Finally, most anons have the right idea that time will improve things.

I'm unsure that associating her with regular masturbation is a good idea, but then again I don't have a penis.


Tl;dr: trust her and yourself and stop being neurotic about your natural reactions.

>>50679743
how old are you, Wise One? also how hot were you?

>>50679859
You can delete posts. There should be a button on the bottom right of the web page.

>>50679790
She's not wrong, speaking from another female pov.

I'm enough to remember the DOS programs were the cutting edge of tech and to be there when the first editions of Gods and deities were removed from the shelves because of copyright violations. I was only kind of skinny and readheaded, so 'hot' was not really what I was, more 'tolerable'

>>50677602
>>50677847
Jeez, grow the fuck up.
Treating someone as a person means that they are just as shitty as the rest of humanity. They have faults, and even if they don't have many, they are people who eat, breath and shit like any other. Stop putting them on a pedestal like they shit gold and start thinking you are overestimating them. Even if she is not attractive because of looks but personality, act like you are actually playing an rpg with them and stop concentrating on looks and personality. I bet you don't get distracted when a fellow male player who you admire and respect talks to you during game.
It's sexual, it's not for the game session and you can fantasize or drop spaghetti outside the game time all you want if you like.
But grow the fuck up and play like you mean it.
Attraction is a sad excuse, you're not some Stendhal syndrome patient that gets sweaty in front of pure beauty.

Yet another woman here.

Time will not fix this. Your thoughts will only intensify the longer it goes on until they become progressively less attached to reality. You might even make the classic mistake and start thinking you've fallen in love with her.

Address the elephant in the room now, preferably in a joking manner. That's what I would most prefer in this situation. Then I have a chance to make it clear if I want you to keep that to yourself, or to make it clear that it doesn't bother me. Then both parties have got it off their minds.

>>50679950
Here's a tip: try actually reading the posts before you reply to them.

There was not a iota of pedestaling in that. That's just you imagining things.

>>50679950
>Stendhal syndrome
isn't that reserved to cities and art?
>>50680020
there's defenetely some halo effect in OPs insistence that shes such a good player and really cool and so pretty

>>50679743
>Formerly hot, now old
>formerly
I do not believe you can't be that old if you're active here

>>50680059
There is, but >>50677602 was replying to two "treat her like a person"-posts with the retort that you can still be infatuaded with a person with whom you talk to and hang out with as an otherwise normal individual.

What I'm saying is, "treat her like a person" is not something that's guaranteed to work here. In fact, it can make infatuation all the worse.

>>50680113
Oh there's old people here. Anonymity makes us invisible and everyone tends to project their own identity onto other anons. But 4chan is more diverse than one would think. For reference, I'm over 40.

>>50680159
OLD
AND
BUSTED

>>50680159
>40
>old
This isn't /b/ anon

>>50676151
Just treat her like a normal fucking human being. She is not doing anything wrong. Just act like she is just another one of your friends, unless you and your friends are fucked up pieces of shit. Of course, this is entirely ok. In that case, just treat her like you treat other moderately less insane people.

Works for me every time.

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>>50679979
Femanons, can I catch your ear for a sec? What's the best way to handle the reverse situation?

I DM and more than a few times I've gotten confessions from female players I'm not romantically interested in. I want them to stay and play because it's fun but they always take rejection hard and leave the game out of embarrassment even though I try to reassure them that I don't feel the slightest bit awkward about continuing like nothing happened.

Asking because I know for a fact the work acquaintance in my current group is "secretly" interested and god damn I've been working on this campaign for months and don't want it interrupted by sex bullshit. It's about lake and river merfolk and their dealings with the dwarves of the region and it's fun as fuck, I assure you.

>>50679251
>>50679411
This might play a role yes. I definitely have a weakness for asian features.

>>50679833
I really appreciate the advice, thank you. I don't think I should tell her how she makes me feel tho even jokingly. With my social skills it could only end in tears and blood.

>>50679950
>>50679979
I really don't know her well enough to all in love or even to really get a read on her. I don't intend to make her into some platonic ideal of unattainability. I want to be able to play a game and hold a conversation with her in the room, that's it.

>>50680552
Just start sticking your hands down your pants and sniffing your fingers while in their company, or something.
Snort loudly.
Breathe through your mouth.
Presto, no more harem.

>>50680675
I want to keep her at the table, though. Be a little weird to act disgusting and then drop the act at work all day. Frustrating. It's like these women have never seen an attractive guy completely embrace the 2D before.

Treat them like any normal guy in your group. Learn their boundaries and respect them. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES ENTERTAIN FANTASIES OF A ROMANTIC/SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP. Seriously, women can smell desperation a mile away. If she's interested in you, you will know. Just relax and treat her like one of the bros. Maybe tone down the fart jokes, but remember one of the bros.

>>50676158
Fpbp

Find a flaw of hers. It will serve to remind you that she's imperfect, and make it easier to not be enamored.

>>50676740
I didn't end up around a girl I actually thought was attractive until highschool.

>>50680552
Introduce a Dwarf on which merfolks are making their moves. The Dwarf is not interested, and asks the PC's for advice on how to make them understand that he's not into them.

>>50681493
love this

>>50679790
I hadn't fully developed when my friends (all boys) got into adnd. Hot enough that these kinds of situations were just a part of life.

>>50679979
This could be great if she has the right kind of personality for it and anon has can handle it well, but honestly handling it poorly will probably make things a lot worse, and with his mind where it is he probably will come off wrong.

>>50680552
Honestly not very sure. Girls don't compartmentalize well. How old is she? Do you think she is actually interested in the game purely? She may be interested only because you are and she wants to be interested in the same things as you. If that's the case things are not going to go over well. Best advice I can give is to talk to her about your previous experiences with games being ruined by girls wanting to date, which you aren't interested in doing. Bring it up in a casusual manner just talking about your experiences with tbt rp.

Ultimately, it is her problem not yours, make sure the game can continue without her.

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>>50680552
>River merfolk
>Dwarves
Das rheingold?

>>50677444
Triples And Doubles.
Just to point It out.
Won't get involved again in an argument about abortion with fa/tg/uys, tho.
I've learned my lesson about talking to people who don't give a shit about when life start or doesn't because It's convenient to ignore the boundary.

>>50676151
use your penis anon

>>50678540
Why is 2006 the year that women suddenly aren't getting any attention paid to them?

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>>50682521

>>50676151
Beautiful women are used to being catered to, hit on, blathering idiots agreeing to anything they say, etc.

Sounds like fun but when its most all you ever get and its heaped on you day after day its not.

Ever wonder why some girls like assholes? They crave being treated as a person not a hot girl, and asshole is often the closest they can find.

The secret is to treat them (Gasp) like any other human being, you dont agree with something shes saying suggest an alternative or start talking it out with her.

>>50676163
A bit mean but its very true.

>>50676151
clearly you need to get laid, get it out of your system so you can interact with other humans as a person yourself. storyteller has the same problem. fuck eachother, have sex, two birds one stone. everybodys bi in exalted anyway

>>50677576
lol fuck off

Maaan, there is some CRAZY bullshit "advice" in this thread.

And that's coming from someone who's been burnt by the standard-issue crazy girl gamer time-bomb who works her way into your game under a veneer of normalcy and then detonates everything spectacularly so many times that I have an instinctive panic response when a potential recruit for a game reveals herself to be in possession of a Y chromosome.

>>50676151
OP, I dunno what, exactly, to say, except this:
Ex2, or Ex3?

>>50676151
>>50678923
OP here back for one last rodeo.

I doubt anyone is interested but for the sake of closure here's an update:
I talked to Kelly (the beautiful girl) on whatsapp then on the phone and I told her that we all liked her, but we're just intimidated/socially awkward.
She said she was the same way and we basically laughed about it (awkwardly.)
She'll come to the session tomorrow and hopefully we'll have many more adventures with her Lunar swindler.

>>50679148
>chinese-canadian female
Do you like gambling? Because from what you've described, this is a coin toss between "kind of socially inept" and "fucking crazy".
t. chinese-canadian

>>50683681
post a picture

>>50677388
...but this is still 4chan, anon

>>50683690
don't be racist against your own kind dude
or is this a defence mechanism in the tradition of "I didn't want them anyway"? since chinese girls all go for white guys?

>>50679048
Is tinder still worth it? I kinda want to join, as I just started college and I'm still a virgin.

>>50684290
Are you a straight up 10/10? If so, you'll be rolling in it. If not, get ready to never get matched with anyone.

Something like 90% of women on Tinder get laid via Tinder, while about 10% of the men on Tinder do.

You do the math.

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>>50676512
Sometimes /tg/ is a good person.

>>50684145
It's not racism, nor sour grapes. I'm not saying this solely because >chinese-canadian, I'm saying this based on other information OP's given mentioned—hobbies, mannerisms, behaviour, et cetera—and I'm throwing it out as a heuristic rather than as absolute fact.

>>50684410
we know absolutely nothing about this girl

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>>50684439
I know enough to give broad precautionary statements that I don't exactly know to be true in OP's particular case, but are probably true anyway.

>>50676151
>How do you deal with girls in your group?

Treat them like a man who has tragically lost his penis. You treat them normally and don't bring up their tragic disfigurement. Because that's a dick move.

>>50683681
We are glad for your success brother Anon. Go in peace and shitpost not.

>>50676151
alcohol helps. So does jacking off before sessions (but if you do that, for the lover of god SHOWER)

>>50684523
here's a run up of the available intel
>is into Exalted (so she's pretty deep into the ttrpg rabbit hole)
>plays a Lunar (not a good sign)
>engaged and serious player
>apparently her character is a manipulator
>is chinese-canadian
>tall
>beautiful (enough to send a bunch of geeks into a panic for four weeks straight)
>doesn't wear much makeup (then again OP might just be oblivious to it. if it's done well.)
>is reserved
>says she's socially awkward
>feels bad about not fitting in with her rp group
>still wants to play

did i forget anything?

>>50684775
>dislikes the Chad of the group
>holds a job and comes to the games straight from work
>has weirdly symmetrical face

>>50678785
This.
My Aunt didn't find out until her High School reunion that her entire class thought she was stuck-up.
They thought she was stuck-up because she never talked to anyone and she was legitimately gorgeous.
Turns out she was just painfully shy and had no idea that other people thought she was gorgeous or that they thought she was stuck-up. She just kept to herself, concentrated on her grades, and came home and helped take care of her family.

Do girls play Exalted?

>>50684775
>>50684793
see? she doesn't seem half bad
more ""kind of socially inept" than "fucking crazy"

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>>50676151
You probably won't see this reply so far down, but try talking to her and explaining the situation.

Obviously, don't open with "I think you're hot"...actually, try not to say that at all.

Instead, just tell her that you and the GM are a little awkward around women, she's likely noticed already. If you simply let her know she'll probably be more accepting of your behaviour, and might even help you get over your awkwardness and help you to be able to function around women more.

You could ask her for advice on how to approach and address things with women, but this is, of course, assuming that the initial talk goes well.
Essentially, explain the situation (minus "I think you're hot"), let her know that you still want her in the group, but it'd be great if you could get to know her in order to get over your anxiety.

This is how you grow as a person, friendo.

>>50684876
no
only dogs

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>>50676151
>How do you deal with girls in your group?
Pic related.

>>50683681
Yo maricon you made her laugh! It's in the bag you hijo de puta

>>50683681
I would say your best bet is to remember that all the generalizations won't help you understand who she is. Statements about a population mean jack and shit about the actual individual. If you keep that in mind, then you're more inclined to be curious about the person. Don't worry about posing the awkward questions like "where are you from" because if it's in earnest, no one really cares that you don't know. The worst you can do is annoy her. Much better than being an asshole.

If you want some cultural generalizations, it sounds like she is more filial based off of how much she apparently cares about appearance and how she says she's socially awkward. Probably means she, like most Chinese girls, has pretty restrictive parents. Chances are she always wanted to play TTRPGs but probably lacked opportunities. If she's playing Exalted and has played a bunch of other games, then it means she's probably one of the organizers but really can't find groups that easily.

It could easily turn out that you know more about TTRPGs. Use that expertise to feel comfortable and chat it up with her on experiences. It's virtually impossible to know too much about the hobby to feel bored because of how long games take.

Again, these are all generalizations. You don't really know anything until you ask. I've seen way more exceptions than norms.

>>50685055
Some good wisdom getting dropped'among the abortion debate and creepers asking for pics

>>50676740
Shut the fuck up cunt

>>50684290
absolutely. and if tinder in your area is not good, then try coffee meets bagel(better for asian girls) or bumble (better for pretty caucasian girls).

i went on 16 first dates from january to september, some qt's, some meh looking, but all are girls that were decent/good people and presentable to my parents. (no low brow girls or sluts)

>>50680263
t. Old Man

>>50684323
No.

>>50681493
Next session is tomorrow and I've come up with a perfect scenario to introduce this exact situation. Thank you based anon.

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>>50686311
You are welcome.

How did this thread get to the bump limit?? There wasnt even any good drama

>>50676838
Different Anon, but did you not have a scholarship? I got offered a full ride including room and board. Just don't be dumb. I didn't even apply for it, they just offered it when they accepted me. I ended up going to a different school (really wanted to go out of state), so I owed a little extra, already paid off my student loans.

>>50686149
Yes.

>>50676430
I went from 22yo no gf ever kissles virgin to having a nice steady relationship with a girl "way out of my league" as soon as my job forced me to interact with 10/10s every day all day.

Eventually you realize that "out of my league" is bullshit and you were pushing girls away by being akward and caring more about how they felt around you and what they thought of you, than about how you were feeling around them. As soon as you start feeling comfortable around beautiful women they start seeing you as a handsome man even if you never thought you were.

This is an opportunity to increase your social standing and make a good friend, all you need to do is decide you don't want to go out with her even if she was into you, and stop acting differently among beautiful people.

>>50676709
I masturbate daily because I'm paranoid of prostate cancer.

>>50687477
what do you even think about? I couldnt conjure something exciting every single day

>>50682528
360/PS3/Wii/DS came out.

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>>50676151
It'd help if you weren't a virgin.

>>50687880
Yes, because the moment you get laid you get magical women-resisting powers. Nice try anon, I'm gonna be a wizard.

>>50684841
She could also be a late bloomer like this one guy I know. Senior year my best friend was this gangly snaggle toothed motherfucker who was super in to comics and couldn't speak to women at all. Three years later I can barely recognize him since he looks like a male model. Got into really good shape and turns heads literally every time we go out together, it's ridiculous. Despite that he still drops his spaghetti super hard when talking to girls except now they find his shyness cute and endearing.

>>50688244
You literally do.
I had actual consesual sex I don't regret with a beautiful woman for my first time, ever since I stopped putting pussy in a pedestal and can get a new girlfriend whenever I want.

Paying to fuck a 4/10 prostitute may not help but actually achieving your goals and realizing it wasn't so hard, or so out of this world, helps you achieve your goals increasingly easier.