Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1222: Weaponized Waifus Edition

>>50660801
>I thought it'd be a little weird if they couldn't be imported as items so I created the item import option with the caveat to not be able to turn human to mesh with the standard companion limit.

You could put in an option to import them as full companions with the catch that from there on out, they will always be subject to companion limits.

>>50661092
That would be nice. They count as an item & a companion considering they're sentient. That way you can't skirt the companion limit by importing them as items, then have them switch to human form via Soul Eater's demon weapons.

>>50660967
Depends on how you deal with the wish spell, there are a few different possible ways to do it but in general the answer would probably be no.

Though you can straight up make dragons with the right magic item creation feat.

>>50661092
In that case wouldn't it be better to just say that they're straight-up companions, though?

Maybe a good option would be to just say that they're both a companion AND an item and that you can import them as either or both but they still take up a companion slot.

>>50661116
>further limiting companion slots
Oh, great.

>>50661190
Eeh. Please don't enforce that. I have no desire to make the swordfus full time companions. I might use their human forms from time to time, sure, but mainly I'm interested in an intelligent weapon and I really don't think that should take up a companion slot.

So would it about right to say that level 10 in Hero BBS is pretty close to level 100 in Overlord (the Series)?

>>50661212
For all the wanking of Overlord what we're told makes level 10s look a whole hell of alot stronger than Overlord's level 100

>>50661212
A level 10 in BBS is probably more powerful than a 100 in Overlord. Of course, if I remember right, levels stop at 10 but there are power differences among level 10s in BBS. Still, I still think that 10s in BBS trump 100s in Overlord.

>>50661190
Not a fan. Companion slots are at a premium.

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>>50661207
>I might use their human forms from time to time, sure

>>50661212
Level 100s in Overlord are so powerful the plebs see them as gods, Level 10s in BBS are enough to make actual gods shake in abject terror.

>>50661077
This is why Sky Garden's Magician is....well time to redo my build to damn harem heroes, all swords save yandachi, and magician class. I was given swords as a magician. As a joke.

>>50661228
>>50661229
>>50661228
>>50661242
Oh wow. Okay then. Huh.

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>>50661235
I look forward to pole dancing with my Tsundachi spear.

>>50661265
Source?

Is Student in BBS immortal?

>>50661278
Heavy Object, a show about soldiers who hunt mecha (non-humanoid ones, though, the most common shape is spherical) with infantry tactics and traps. Pretty good, though it has its flaws.

>>50661190
So is it going to take like 5000 years to learn that spatial magic as a Warrior?

Screw Attack [400sp] – Named so for the acrobatic spin normally use with this upgrade, the armor discharges a large amount of energy from its core in a controlled burst, creating a rotating burst of power around the user. The field lasts only a few seconds at a time, but can be used again at will, and is strong enough to smash through solid underground rock as easily as wet paper, and often being the last thing an unarmored enemy will come into contact with. This variant also doesn’t require the jump – you may activate the Attack at your leisure, though only things you’re in touch contact with will be affected by it. Do note that the ability doesn’t provide extra locomotion on its own – Movement modules will be needed to use the jump ability at longer ranges.

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>>50661342
>Screw Attack

>>50661257
Yeah. One of the level 10 is named Godslayer.

He literally goes around the multiverse curbstomping asshole gods. That's what he does.

>>50661318
That's way too much. And that's assuming that you have literally no learning, enhanced memory, or boosted intelligence perks.

>>50661394
Oh, well it says it would take close to a 1000 years to get to that level even if you're a magician, right?

>>50661190
>In that case wouldn't it be better to just say that they're straight-up companions, though?

That’s what I meant.

You can keep them as weapons, or you can make them companions, but you can’t go back once you do.

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>>50661412
No. I think Sage is high level 8-ish to low level 9. preemptive >power levels It takes about 200 years to reach that level. It takes about a 1,000 years to reach level 10, a level that makes Sage look like a chump in comparison.

>>50661416
But I like them being able to import as both and keep their human form. That's an important part of what they are. I can't just say "no they can't turn into humans anymore because reasons."

>>50661342
Nice. Can we get the Shine Spark, too? Everyone loves Shine Spark.

>>50661480
I think anon means having it so that importing them as a companion would make them take up a slot from that point forward.

>>50661480
>But I like them being able to import as both and keep their human form. That's an important part of what they are.
I agree. It also makes sense give the source material. I can't remember the chapter, but the one with the hero with the intelligent weapon that swaps back and forth between weapon and human form all the time.

Keep it as is.

I wonder if you could use Iterative Improvement from Worm on the swords?

>>50661480
>Tsundachi possesses the condition of counting as either an item or a companiondue to its abilities. If imported as an item it will possess all of its abilities but will not be able to assume human form. If imported as a companion it will have the ability to switch between its human and weapon form.

…Alternately, you could put what I was asking for without my noticing it.

Though:
>Tsundachi possesses the condition of counting as either an item or a companiondue to its abilities.
>companiondue

Need a space there.

>>50661480
Can you import a weapon more than once? Say, once into Himedachi and once more into Frostflame? What would happen if you imported Kuudachi and Himedachi as Frostflame's components and merged them?

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One last time before I put it up on the drive. Anyone got anything that they feel needs greater explanation?

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>>50661642
>Need a space there.

>>50661670
No. That's ridiculous. You're ridiculous.

How fast is Adjordan?

Also, what about its touch causes death? Could an immunity to supernatural death efffects prevent it?

>>50661697
Okay, what about buying a sentient version of a weapon ans then buying it again as a normal weapon?

>>50661697
Does the merged form of Frostflame still count as a single item import?

Also, you''re not gonna stop me. How would they react if they were merged into Frostflame?I'll Armsfusion their components if I have to.

Is incest wincest?

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>All these sword-waifu rules
Bah. Too complicated. I'm just going to stick to my original plan of being a wizard and wizarding everything to death.

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>>50661712
But why.

>>50661768
I'll have no part in the bullying and sexual harassment of innocent weapons.

>Camaraderie (600, Discount Active Hero): When it comes to working with people you're one of the best there is. This greatly boosts your charisma and allows you to easily interact and speak with other people, capturing the hearts and minds of those you meet. But more than this it allows you to easily create strong bonds with others and cultivate those bonds, allowing for you and your companions to practically read each other's minds on the battlefield. Your teamwork is completely subconscious and virtually flawless, enabling you to easily fight alongside others regardless of any differences between your respective powers. You fight as one entity, a unit stronger than its parts. In addition, outside of combat you'll find yourself rising up in strength and skill much faster when you train or spar alongside friends or companions. You will easily pick up their abilities and they'll quickly pick up any skills you decide to teach them if they have the ability to learn it themselves.

Can you acquire supernatural abilities or perks by sparring with companions?

>>50661703
FAST. She's the speedster of the Yozi, her charmset is full of speed-enhancing charms. Fortunately, she disdains ranged attacks and (since charms are a reflection of a Yozi's personality) can therefore only attack in melee. Kind of sucks for Infernals investing in her charms, though, her speed charms deactivate if you use ranged attacks from outside of point blank.

As for why she's deadly, it's not a death effect. None of the Yozis deal directly with death magic, they're all terrified of it. Adorjan's touch is deadly because she's a scything windstorm made of murder. Contact with her abrades away at both your body and soul. You'd be better off with elemental immunity to wind than immunity to death effects.

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>>50661821
The answer is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Unless they're something you could learn through training and instruction.

>>50661821
>The answer is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Worthless it is, then.

Soooo worthless.

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Has the introduction of multiple 400 CP discounts and a drawback with a reward, with a prerequisite only they can afford, made drop-in TOO good?

Aside from the Juju import option, what other item imports make your items impossible to be used by others?

>>50661866
If imported do they lose the ability to turn human permanently or just for that jump?

Sorry if this has been asked or explained before but I might have missed it.

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>>50661880
Take my perk and like it you whore.

>>50661819
Okay.

>Does the merged form of Frostflame still count as a single item import?

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>>50661819
Pretty Boy Must Die, could we get an option to be manly instead of pretty? Like instead of just looking Bishōnen we can choose to look like we stepped out an action movie. Y'know, square jaw, strong and defined cheeks, hollywood body builder body.

Can the dere swords be dual weapons (ones wielded as a pair) or ranged weapons or do they have to be singular melee weapons?

>>50661819
>But why.
What my swordfus and I do in the battlefield is none of your business.

But really, can we do that?

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>>50661819
>I'll have no part in the bullying and sexual harassment of innocent weapons.

>>50661676

Not completely sure if this counts or not, but there's something I started to wonder. Would Mercury be a valid parent for a god-blooded?

It's mostly the idea of a jumper being the kid of the Maiden of Journey's seemed amusing, and then I got curious if it would be valid or not.

>>50661918
Slavania can't access 4chins at the present so asking for them. Regarding swords in BBS for imports, can the imported weapon be dual weapons and is it restricted to only melee weapons?

>>50661980
This is a blue board dude. Take that to /d/.

>>50661703
Zoom Zoom Murderbudha is FAST, basically at least half of her Charms are speed multipliers and such.

She's dangerous because she's a conceptual windstorm that erodes all things she touches. Death effects, from what I understand of Exalted, didn't exist before the Exalted made them so they could induce death into deathless beings, which led to the Neverborn.

>>50661899
>Pic
Cool Beans. Here's a question, how would you, as your Jumper, stop a full genocide run Frisk?

>>50661981
Well as I've noted, and need to update, thanks to you because I forgot again! You have Inheritance 4 is you are a Child of the Mighty.

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>>50661918
>Paying 600 cp for something that I can already get just by looking and not being an idiot

You wish.

I will take my sword-waifus and leave.

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>>50662015
>Cool Beans. Here's a question, how would you, as your Jumper, stop a full genocide run Frisk?

With the power of lewds

>>50661835
>>50662015
So, from what I understand of Exalted, she's probably conceptually fast. Is that true? Or is it something more quantifiable like mach 1000?

>>50662047
Ah yes, the Murdercock. Mankind's greatest weapon against the Gems.

>>50662020
>>for something that I can already get just by looking and not being an idiot
>posts a pic of Gilgamesh

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>>50661917
No, their ability to transform is on a per-jump basis. So you can import them as an item or companion at your discretion whenever you do a jump. It just means that they can't turn into a human if they're an item but they can change between forms if they're a companion.

>>50661922
I see what you're trying to do. I approve.

>>50661935
No. You're pretty. Oh so pretty.

>>50661959
Fine. But only one of each. Let's not make this weird.

>>50661951
>>50661988
They've gotta be melee son! And no dual bullcrap! You gonna be a little bitch and shoot from the back? Get in there! Be a man!

>>50662015

>You have Inheritance 4 is you are a Child of the Mighty.

What does Inheritance 4 mean anyway?

>>50661899
Does feel like Drop-In's getting legitimately all of the love right now.

>>50662097
>Fine. But only one of each. Let's not make this weird.
Oh, this going to be fun.

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>>50662082
Gilgamesh is only an idiot in /stay night, and even then not in all the routes.

>>50662097
Speaking of Gilgamesh, how would the Swords take being shoved into the Gate of Babylon and used as proyectiles?

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>>50662015
>full genocide run Frisk
There really is only one option at that point, Rip Chara's soul out of Frisk's body and use it as a power source to resurrect the fallen monsters.

On that note, what would be the best way to handle the Gaster Capstone Drawback? Hacking ability? Soul binding powers? A hunt through alternate dimensions with a portal gun for shards of the being?

I /need/ more points for my Undertale build, but if it's a suicide run, I'll have to scale things back.

>>50662068
I don't actually recall what her top speed is. I know that there is a "always just slightly faster than what you're chasing" charm, but I can't remember whether it's an Adorjan charm or an Infernal Monster Style martial arts charm. Let me look through the books.

>>50658622
Huh so the Tsundachi has gone from "It's completely in love with you and will never betray you" to a lot of weird stuff about having to win the sword over or loving the sword back or something.

Not much point keeping it in my build. Mostly just wanted my superweapon to be more loyal.

>>50662097
>Oh so pretty
Do we also feel pretty and witty and bright? Would you even go as far as to say we should pity any anon that isn't us today?

>>50662116
Never underestimate power of waifus.

>>50662143
I realize who I'm talking to when I say this, but waifus shouldn't fuck with a jump's balance broheim.

>>50662130
Probably the best idea is to enlist the help of Sans and Frisk. Sans because of his knowledge and possible relation to Gaster, and Frisk for their DETERMINATION and ability to befriend anyone. Aside from that, Gaster is whole enough to have a physical form and consciousness, so you're going to want to find a way to reach him and confront him. This won't be easy considering he technically doesn't exist. Finding pieces of him might help locate him however, as well as maybe help you convince him to stop trying to delete you.

>>50662168
>I realize who I'm talking to when I say this

Then you'll know he won't comprehend.

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>>50662097
Thanks for the reply, I'll pass it along to them.

Jump 3 Hero Cooperation BBS
Age: 26
Origin: Drop In
Starting World: Sky Garden
Drawbacks (600)- Senior Citizen, The Ride Never Ends, This Is Why Earth Prime's Jumper Is, Obsession
Perks
Exchange BBS- [New Thread!] [I have lost control of my life.]
Pretty Boys Should Die (100)- So sexy it hurts.
Damn Harem Heroes (300)- It's like a comedy of errors...
Magnetic Destiny (600)- ...as directed by Micheal Bay.

Gear (1600)
Tsun,Kuu,Dan,Hime,Kamidachis.

Monpoly went well. Great detective was me falling flat on my face for a decade. Now this? This is an ah my goddess length train wreck of a love comedy. I'm a magician and yet I was given swords as my cheat, which inflict more harm on me (mentally, sometimes physical) than the enemy does. Not to mention going into a town results in someone flaring up, sometimes literal and sometimes figuratively. Not to mention I have a murder stalker, who gets stronger the more I put them down. At this rate the demon lord is very much becoming an optional side quest in comparison to everything else. Dandachi is my heart's oasis by now, everything else is bickering and fire between Tsun, Kuu, and Hime. Meanwhile Kamicalibur (don't ask, I shouldn;t have mentioned excalibur around her...) is between self important monologues from high places and practicing Kami-O Cast Off. At least when I got pulled to another world I got rid of that OH GOD SHE'S HERE AGAIN.

Hero's Laifu Status: Ruined.

>>50662131
Okay, I skimmed the books real quick and she doesn't have a conceptual chasing charm. So she probably has just an enormous but finite speed. That said, the charms in the books are just meant to be a representative sample, with the actual Yozi charmsets being much larger. So there's no guarantee that she doesn't have a "Faster Than You Shintai" charm tucked away somewhere. However, such a charm would still follow the rules for roll-offs when charms conflict if you used your own magic to outrun her, so it wouldn't be an absolute conceptual effect.

Are there any Yozi worth letting out? I'm thinking of taking Return of the Infernal Jumper drawback. Also, is there anything metaphysical in the way? Assuming it was powerful enough for such large objects, could I just use one of those teleportation perks that can drag along others to take the one I want and leave?

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>>50661899
>>50662116
Let's be real here. There's a ton of perks that you could buy. But if you want to blow your load on a sword harem then I'd say that's balance. Because really, how many sword waifus do you actually need before they become redundant? The truth or a trick question? You decide.

>>50662128
Tsundachi would get really angry. Kuudachi would dutifully be an arrow. Dandachi would feel useless because she can only heal. Himedachi would complain nonstop about being treated that way. Kamidachi would not come out.

>>50660509
Yeah, I've always been under the impression that it was the various Lord Souls that made the original Hollow beings into the races. Gods are only Gods because they have a piece of Gwyn's soul, however small, within them, same a we all know that humans are only human because of the Dark Soul. Presumably, the people of Izalith had part of the Witch's soul, and we know that the demons are powered by the Chaos Flame. Finally, it's told to us directly that skeletons are powered by part of Nito's soul, and I'd presume the same for his Grave Wardens.

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So, um. Had a bit of RL excitement there. While I was typing up the Metroid jump.

I am not a superstitious individual, so I'm going to pass this up as a coincidence and get back to work.

Energy Transfer Module [400sp] – A valuable prize and necessary asset of the Luminoth, the effects of this module are twofold. Originally having the ability to render the user Ing possession useless by virtue of constantly generating light, the Module grants the armor and its wearer completely immunity to supernatural possession or attempts to ‘corrupt’ its technology through similar means. In addition, the armor can now freely store a large amount of energy within itself, the Module originally being designed to steal back the planetary energy sustaining several parts of Aether. This energy can either be transferred to a different source you can connect the armor to, or it can be ‘spent’ to temporarily supercharge individual armor components.

That said, while you can contain a large amount of energy, your armor can’t necessarily handle using that much on its own...trying to fire a planet’s worth of energy through your tiny Arm Cannon is more likely to make you explode and die than actually create a practical weapon. If you truly must use such an abundant source of energy, do use caution – as a mercy, your armor’s on-board system will warn you when you’re about to use more than your hardware can handle. Only one type of energy can be contained at a time.

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>>50662311
You can do it, Heavens.
Your sacrifice will not be in vain!

>>50662135
Yeah they don't seem like waifus anymore, do they? I wonder if fatty is behind that.

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>>50662191
That was basically my plan so far. Sans would have the details I'd need to fill in the blanks. While I do have my own "befriend anyone" perks, having a second set along wouldn't hurt. Besides, the points are going to pay for Frisk's Companioning anyways.

I'm considering using the magic and knowledge gained in Forgotten Realms as a Binder, which funny enough, /specializes/ in contacting beings trapped between life and death and extracting favors from them. I also tapped into Shadow Magic while I was there and learned some pretty juicy secrets about the space between worlds.

I've also got a full blown Necromancer on tap.

I guess that will be enough? Unless I missed something vital? Wouldn't be the first time.

>>50662275
Isidoros just wants to party, give him someplace he can do that without accidentally squishing people and he's alright. Similarly, his husbando Szoreny isn't too malevolent. Qaf just want to meditate, and Elloge just wants to write her fanfic, so they're probably safe, too.

As for metaphysical barriers, there are lots of them. Lots of poorly-defined ones so that the GM can put in whatever barriers to the Yozi escaping that they want. So I can't really specify what they are, sorry. However, just teleporting the Yozi out of there definitely wouldn't work. They've got teleportation, they tried that already.

>>50662311
>Had a bit of RL excitement there.
?

>I am not a superstitious individual, so I'm going to pass this up as a coincidence
?!

>>50662275
No.

>>50662299
>Because really, how many sword waifus do you actually need before they become redundant?
Is this an official statement from the jumpmaker that buying additional swords leads to swiftly diminishing returns in terms of combat effectiveness per CP spent?

Because I'm fine with that as a way to make up for drop-in getting more discounts than other origins.

>>50662354
That would be stupid. You just need to come to terms with the fact that it's basically just multiple discounts on basically the same thing, and not something worth getting worked up over.

>>50662311
Nice. I like energy absorption. I'm probably going to use this on mundane energy, though, not mystical stuff. I've got a super-mecha project that would benefit from giving it that technology. Time to reverse-engineer.

>>50662347
>give him someplace he can do that without accidentally squishing people and he's alright

Isn't Creation literally surrounded infinitely by formless void?

>>50662340
Btw. Is there a "default" weapon shape for each? Or is it completely up to us what melee weapon they take form of?

>>50662379
It's also full of beings that hate Primordials for creating Creation.

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>>50662135
>>50662341
>not understanding that half the fun is chasing a dere
Plebs pls go!

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>>50662299
>Tsundachi would get really angry. Kuudachi would dutifully be an arrow. Dandachi would feel useless because she can only heal. Himedachi would complain nonstop about being treated that way. Kamidachi would not come out.

It can either come out or else I'm gonna have to exploit its abilities in other ways...

>>50662404
They're not deres if they don't act that way from the start.

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>>50662107
It's a measure of how strong your x-Blood is.

Inheritance is calculated via [(Essence of Divine Patron) + (Essence of Mortal) / 2]. This means that an Essence 1 mortal woman + an Essence 9 Demon would give birth to a [(1+9)/2] Inheritance 5 Demon-Blooded. Likewise, an Essence 6 God/Demon/Etc. + an Essence 2 Mortal would together spawn [(6+2)/2] Inheritance 4 God/Demon/etc.-Blooded.

Its also a measure of how much you are getting out of it, so maybe you could have done it with Little Beam, the Unconcerned Sun's 'Son'.

>>50662047
Huh.

>>50662068
She has a speed I just don't know what it is.

>>50662130
Frisk and the Player are the cause of Chara's fall in canon, Yoro.

For Gaster Webmage and Kung Fury Hacker perklines were what I went with to make it a 25% chance of success the time I went in.

>>50662379
Yeah, but everything there is too weak. The infinite unreality of the Wyld shatters under his absolute density. It's boring for him if the rampage is trivial. Sure, all things break under the weight of the Black Boar That Twists The Stars, but he can tell how strong they should have been for a non-infinitely massive creature.

>>50662347
So, do they have eyes?

Do you think combining the following with Lost Odyssey's magic internalizing perk and giving it to one using Sacrificial Bestowment would work?

>-(500CP) - “Small Doll”: “In the legendary old city of Irithyll situated in the Boreal Valley, Pontiff Sulyvahn gave this doll to valued subjects, so that they might use it to cross the barrier when they return home. Listen carefully, and you can hear it say, ‘Wherever you go, the moon still sets in Irithyll. Wherever you may be, Irithyll is your home.’” This is a small silverwork doll depicting a young squire, and it’s also a powerful key while on your person that bestows special privileges. As long as you have it on you, you may pass through fortification type barriers unimpeded. Walls, gates, prisons, forcefields, any other large scale barriers meant to halt progress can’t stop yours.
>Magical shields, wards and other personal barriers cannot be bypassed using this “Gate Key” effect of the Small Doll. Does not disrupt barriers, allowing you to avoid triggering security, traps or alerts set to go off in such a case.

For the updated Titanfall jump, do companions imported as Pilots get their own Titan to customize with tp?

>>50662391
It's up to you.
Although I've always imagined Dandachi as a scary-looking spiked iron mace for some reason.

>>50662464
Isidoros has eyes, since his form is that of a giant boar that's actually the portal to a universe full of dark matter. But Szoreny's a tree, Qaf is a mountain, and Elloge is made of words. They can manifest avatar-bodies called "jouten" that have eyes, though, if they wanted to.

As for that item, it would help. But we know that the barriers against their leaving are not just direct impediments but also some sort of oath magic. They're bound by their nature to be unable to leave Malfeas. So you'll also want some sort of magic to manipulate oaths and other intangible bindings.

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Magic Kingdom of Landover Jump when?

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>>50662448
I think you have that reversed, Chara and the Player are the cause of Frisk's murder spree. But, honestly, there are so many ways to interpret the events that any number of theories could be correct.

That Kung Fury Hacker perk is probably a good idea. It's some wild stuff. But that would mean living for ten years in Kung Fury verse...

>>50662448

>It's a measure of how strong your x-Blood is.

So basically a 'god/demon/etc' with too much essence can't have a kid with low enough inheritance to qualify, or am I misunderstanding things?

>ts also a measure of how much you are getting out of it, so maybe you could have done it with Little Beam, the Unconcerned Sun's 'Son

On a side note I kind of assumed that picking a more powerful one wouldn't actually increase the max power available.

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>>50662507

>>50662547
Land over what?

>>50662611
"Oh man, you're in bad shape! Hang on, I'll heal you up!"

"AAAAHHH!!"

*smack*

*crunch*

"AAAHHHHHHH!!"

>>50662537
Do their "avatars" store their whole being, or do they act more akin to Scion?

Could I convince one to take humaniform, step inside my Inner World, use Stars and Stones (Dresden Files) to help them break their oaths, and then Small Doll to break through the barriers?

>>50662663
Land Over Heaven

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>>50662560
>But, honestly, there are so many ways to interpret the events that any number of theories could be correct.
Too true.

>>50662585
>So basically a 'god/demon/etc' with too much essence can't have a kid with low enough inheritance to qualify, or am I misunderstanding things?
That sounds right.

>On a side note I kind of assumed that picking a more powerful one wouldn't actually increase the max power available.
It usually would actually, power carries through the bloodline to a point according to the section of the Children of the Mighty in the Scroll of Heroes. The total Inheritance balances out to 4 somehow by Fiat if you wanna run it that way. That'd be fine.

>>50662663
Terry Brooks book if I'm remembering right. Basically a guy buys a magic kingdom because depressed and finds out he actually got what he paid for. He was also like a Billionaire lawyer or something. Solid read with the four books I read of it.

>>50662707
I think the underground is actually something like Hell with a demon in it and all that IIRC.

Fusion [600sp] – What is this? Such a thing doesn’t exist in the galaxy just yet, born of a desperate measure to save the Hunter’s life. Still, it’s not out of the question for an aspiring Space Pirate to stumble on such a result themselves...this suit is made of part flesh and part technology, seamlessly integrated together. It may be Metroid DNA or that of a previously unknown creature. Regardless, the result you’ve created is that the DNA of a single creature (either a Metroid or something you had a sample of beforehand, chosen when you buy this) has been meshed with power suit technology. The benefits are twofold – any sort of biological natural ability the creature had is accessible through the suit. The second benefit is that technology you install onto the suit from this point on will immediately integrate with the suit’s biology without fear of conflict...and you can likewise modify the suit genetically like any other organism, and the technology will adapt to it in turn. This won’t always create a 1:1 effect and will need some research, along with trial and error...but you may have found the missing link between a perfect bioweapon and a perfect suit of armor. It’s just a matter of fusion.

This one is of large interest to biology jumpers.

>>50662701
They're just avatars, not their whole being condensed down. Otherwise everyone in Malfeas would fall into Kimbery's avid when Mlafeas himself took his form as the Brass Dancer, without his form as the Demon City to suspend them above her. A Yozi can even manifest multiple jouten at once, if they want to. Stars and Stones would help in freeing the Yozi, though. Don't worry too much about getting their full giant bodies out of Malfeas, if you deal with the metaphysical issues they can drag themselves out on their own. Except Oramus, he's been sewn inside a bad made of his own wings, and can't move anymore. He's probably the hardest of the Yozi to get out of Malfeas. Well, maybe Sachaveral is harder, but no one actually wants him out of Malfeas, not even himself. If Sachaveral escapes his prison of eternal sleep he'll remove all free will from the universe, he doesn't want that any more than anyone else does.

>>50662736
welp.

Time for Kamen Rider Shoujo's Driver to become a Metroid.

>>50662736
Oh, Heavens, you beautiful person, you. Yes, I want that very much.

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>>50662736
Please give me more. I need it to upgrade Pic Related!

Hey, if you go servant in Fate/Extra, do you still get CP? Do you spend that on yourself or the master or what?

>>50662778
Okay. So, what if I did everything before, except used The Ultimate Disguise from Unholy Heights to give all the "worthy" ones human forms before ferrying them out in my Inner World? I suspect there'd be a significant issue of pride there, but would I be correct most would prefer escape in human appearance instead of their current states?

>>50662404
your waifu a shit

>>50662873
Yeah. And they don't mind human form too much, plenty of them have human-shaped jouten.

>>50662736
Legendary [600sp] – The true power behind Chozo technology is not merely its staying power over the course of centuries, but how easily it can integrate both the best of its own world and the best of other worlds. In short, the power armor can take damaged or stolen technological devices from a foe or an ally, and immediately install it without error or fuss. Taking the module behind a flamethrower will give you that same flamethrower’s ability, taking augmented limbs that enabled a foe to jump extremely high will let you do the same thing. As long as the technology still has some capacity to function, you can integrate it immediately with your power armor. The only downside is that the energy and size requirements do not change – space station-sized superweapons still require more power and space than a normal person-sized power armor can hope to generate, and generally will not function without some modifications on your part. Still, you’ll find that the discarded weapons of foes will be ever more useful in your hands...

>>50662915
Can we get a discount by taking a drawback that makes it lose all the upgrades we've given it every time we start a new jump?

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>>50662949
This is discounted for Another. A drawback for constantly losing your gear will be its own thing.

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>>50662915
That's two 600 sp that I need why are you being so mean to me Heavens? Is this about Moonstruck?

>>50662731

>It usually would actually, power carries through the bloodline to a point according to the section of the Children of the Mighty in the Scroll of Heroes. The total Inheritance balances out to 4 somehow by Fiat if you wanna run it that way. That'd be fine.

It's mostly that I don't really know much about his part of exalted. Basically I assumed that the choice of 'parent' was mostly just a matter of theme and/or aesthetics.

That and I figured varying power levels based on how powerful the parent was would cause issues and complication. For example if a strong parent gave more power that would imply a parent that was too weak would give less power.

>>50662915
we will be able to import power armor right?

>>50662901
How likely would it be that they open their Charms to me if I help them escape? On one hand, I just gave them back their freedom. On the other, giving shit away is kind of what got them shoved into their brothers' ass in the first place and they don't really have anything to gain now that they're free. It'd probably depend on the Yozi, right?

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>>50663063
Inheritance isn't meant to be balanced in the game, funnily enough. There is also Experienced which was the same but with age. It can make for some lopsided games but with a solid group you get dynamics like elderly mage who is just trying to help whippersnappers and the young arrogant powerhouse God-Blooded who often has to rely on his friends when he punches out of his weight class.

>>50662404
Nah nigga, you done fucked up the Tsundachi's personality with your fatty edits. I'm gonna whip out a fat grandfather clause and stamp yo face with it.

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>>50663133
>grandfather cause
How dare you insult me in such a way.
I'm reporting you to the Internet police as we speak.

>>50663128

I kind of meant in terms of the jump.

As far as I know balance in White Wolf games is the equivalent of spinning around really fast and seeing how long you can stand on one foot while still dizzy.

>>50663121
Yeah, probably. Though it's less that giving things away is why they were imprisoned and more because they were just huge dicks in general. They're still not really inclined to generosity anymore, though, no. You having freed them would certainly help in convincing them, though.

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>>50663199
Too bad, son. You're trying to fuck up mah new waifu. So Imma save her from your cheeto'd grip, and leave you with something to remember me by.

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>>50663199
We heard a report of Wrong Fun citizen. Please inform us of the funfreaks location.

Prototype Enhancement Device [600sp] – Currently something of a pipe dream in Federation technology is the idea of weaponizing energy created through an organism’s own ‘life force’, similar to what Metroids seem to hunger for. However, no such worthwhile energy seems to exist, and so the project will be on the shelf...for now. This upgrade’s ability has a two-way function: It can either ‘supercharge’ any and all other armor subsystems by channeling an energy drawn from the wearer to create a ‘Hyper Mode’, or it can instead inject a biological agent directly into the wearer while the armor ‘filters’ out dangerous or permanent side-effect, mitigating if not outright removing them. This means things like combat drugs or particular enhancement agents can be used with relative safety to the user. Still, the suit doesn’t come with any such energy to use on its own...perhaps as a consolation, you have blueprints of how to adapt either of its functions to any energy or biological agent you have access to. Maybe you’ll find a way…?

This works with ki, mana, or anything else that qualifies as internal 'energy', by the way. The default use is for Phazon, but I figured this is a fun use for it that doesn't require you getting turbo space cancer to use it.

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>>50663281
>>50663257
He's right there, officers.
He posted negative comments about me on the Internet!

>>50663252
There were a few Yozi who were mentioned to be relatively "safe" (Isidoros, Elloge, Szoreny, etc.), but how likely are they to try to release their more dickish siblings?

>>50663225
Well that's why I made it into a Gauntlet instead of an actual Jump. The balance was set up in such a way that you have to pony up on drawback and destinies to get it. It's also hella expensive.

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>>50663352
He has been taken for reeducation in why "tsunderes are always best girl". Continue to be productive citizen.

>>50663410
>"tsunderes are always best girl".

We need a Rakudai kishi no cavalry jump

>>50663393

I meant that the same type of Children of the Mighty having varying power levels would cause complications.

>>50663281
That pic's from Equilibrium right?

>>50663358
Wouldn't it be more accurate to call them "cousins"?

>>50663410

But your honor he was not saying that tsundere was worst worst girl rather than she was all tsun and no dere now. Along with the rest of her sisters

>>50662736
>>50662915
>>50663304
You sick son of a bitch.

Would it eventually be possible for an E10 Infernal to learn /every/ Caste-Yozi Charm by themselves, or are there limits (either on Charms known or innate Charm growth)?

>>50663565
I admit NOTHING.

Power Beam [Free] – A basic weapon used across the galaxy, considered a mainstay of power armor weaponry. These yellow pellet-sized charges of energy have the benefit of having no need for ammunition, with the downside that it does very slight damaged to armored or tough foes. Still, this is the foundation for many of the weapon systems below, and its versatility – lacking an ‘element’ or exact energy signature – should not be underestimated. Semi-automatic.

Charge Beam [100sp] – Of course, one of the fastest ways to make a weak weapon useful is to just use more of it. In this case, add more to it. By ‘holding’ a single shot of energy from one of your weapons, your suit will supercharge it into a larger blast that will do considerably more damage that whatever the original charge was. The downside is that this only works for energy-based weapons, acting mostly on the principle of ‘add more energy’.

>>50663544
Thank you!

>>50663410
I am being falsely imprisoned! Tis >>50663352 who has sinned against the Tsun, and denied the 'dere. 'Tis >>50663352 who should be imprisoned!

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>>50663410
>Jumper gets so mad at someone during an internet fight that he creates an internet police.

>>50663304
>>50663583
Instead of a "super-mode", could you use PED to substitute for you suit's own energy storage to power its basic functions like Power Beam, Charge Beam, and shields?

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Can someone please post the Infernals jump? I intend to do my build for Gamer, and to start my third-chain with Infernals as Native today.

>>50663583
Ooh, beams. Got to love those beams. Put enough of them together and you have a gun that phases through reality to kill things no matter how they try to hide. Samus' arm cannon is actually rather terrifying, when you think about it.

>>50663632
https://i.4cdn.org/tg/1481478856838.pdf

>>50663440
You’ve got my vote.

>>50663646
Thank you.

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>>50663445
Nah they all have the same level of Inheritance, except for Dragon Touched who have Inheritance 3 Breeding 3 to show their terrestrial bloodline. It's basically balanced in the fact you're just choseing what flavor your power is going to take and the charmsets you will be getting.

>>50663632
Sounds awesome Justice going to love seeing it.

>>50663629
Might need some tinkering, but I don't see why not. Don't forget none of the things in armor have a fiat wall - you can mod it however ya like if you've got a head for tech, or a companion who can do it for ya.

>>50663633
This is probably the most fun I've had typing a subsection, honestly.

Gatling Mode [100sp] – The other side of the fence is that quantity has a quality all on its own. The arm cannon becomes a fully automatic weapon, and while the Power Beam is even more diluted in this form, it’s also a little bit better at penetrating defenses mostly through the constant ‘taps’ of the attack on a single spot. Can be easily adapted to more primitive ballistic weapons, though you may not find much use for it here. Perhaps you’re a fan of the classics?

>>50663720
Do Gatling Mode and Charge Beam modify specific weapons when they say "one of your weapons", or is it a generic ability you can apply to any of your built-in guns? It could be read either way, the language is a bit ambiguous.

>>50663790
Modes are just enhancements to specific Beams. It just uses Power as the default, since it's a universal freebie. They can be applied to any others you pick up - Plasma, Wave, etc. - and used interchangeably.

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>>50663358
Szoreny would try to free Isidoros. And Isidoros would try to free Szoreny.

Isidoros might try to free the others, depending on what he decides. Kind of a wildcard.

Elloge and Qaf probably wouldn't try. But so little is known about them that it's kinda a gamble.

>>50663574
An E10 Infernal can learn every Yozi charm giving enough time. Not even just their Caste ones (though those come easier), all the charms of every Yozi with an opened charmset.

The only limit is time. And mutually exclusive Charms (which are mostly the "I Am A Primordial" Charms, which you don't want anyway.)

>>50663632
Sounds good.

>>50663820
So I can purchase Gatling Mode or Charge Beam once, and then apply to any of my guns? Nice.

>>50663826
I will never not enjoy The Black Piglet That Chuffles At The Stars. One of my many regrets in the Infernals jump is that I can't possibly buy every chibi-Yozi.

>>50663820
hey imports for power armor yes or no?
If yes, does a driver belt count as power armor?
>>50663826
did I remember something about you having to break out of Exalted hell to finish the jump? Would something like a Rick and Morty portal gun or casting gate work for that?

>>50663826
Is that a pompadour... and sunglasses?

>>50663594
Citizen the dere must be earned in spite of the tsun. Have you not read the Gospels of Akane and the Letters to Asuka?

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>>50663876
The pig has Style.

>>50663871
>Rick and Morty portal gun
Ha. Probably not, considering all the shit the Yozis have sealing them in. Also, drawback fiat. Though, Rick did uncurse a (weak-ass) Devil's items.

There was some discussion on how to free the Yozi earlier, though. That might work with some tweaking (since Stars and Stones doesn't work on yourself).

>>50663871
Yes, there will be power armor imports. In fact
What’s Old Is New Again [100sp] – If you already have a body-sized suit of armor or a previous model of power armor already, then you may import it for this simple price. All features will integrate seamlessly with each other, and be perfectly compatibility for the purpose of the armor operating as normal.

As for the umbrella...

Arm Cannon System [Free] – All of these weapons are designed to work interchangeably with each other within a single arm cannon, which rests on one arm of your armor (that you may choose). The weapon systems below can all be toggled or combined at will, though newer and self-installed systems may need some work to integrate with it properly. Can be set to a ‘stun’ or ‘kill’ setting at will.

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>>50663853
They are pretty fun, yeah.

>>50663871
That's the big +800 drawback, yes.

But no, simply opening a portal wouldn't work. They can just make portals themselves, it's much more than a simple prison. Metaphysical barriers and oaths preventing them from leaving, and all that jazz.

>>50663876
Yes. chibi-Isidoros does as chibi-Isidoros wants.

>>50663937
>Star and stones companion and yourself
>Free each other
>Free others
>Go kick some UcS ass.

>>50663829
That's how it works in the Metroid series, you know.

>>50663999
Reverse Satan, what would happen to the TerribleTorment and Horrible Coadjutor drawbacks work if you go Devil-Tiger rather quickly?

>>50664055
Not really. Samus only has the one gun, that she stacks upgrades onto. In some games it can switch modes, but it's still only one gun.

>>50663937
Ha. Probably not, considering all the shit the Yozis have sealing them in. Also, drawback fiat. Though, Rick did uncurse a (weak-ass) Devil's items.

yeah but that's all magic stuff, I don't think there's any precedent for " sufficiently advanced" in exalted, thusly I thought it would be an out of context thing,and I wasn't taking about the big bads, I was talking about The jumpers who take it,I vaguely remembered having to escape before the jump could end.
>>50663999
nice trips also I was under the impression that it was mandatory.

also if you go devil-tiger how bad an idea is kidnapping Lillun? and if you don't kidnap her. Is there any way to get spare Exaltations?

>>50664068
You can't go Devil-Tiger in the 10-year limit, so I don't think it's an issue.
You have to have been an Infernal for 100 years before you can hit Essence 6 and start going Devil-Tiger.

>>50664031
Not all of us buy Sacrificial Bestowment, you know.

>>50664094
No, you can use Ascendency Mantle of (Yozi), the Essence increase it grants counts for charm prerequisites. Devil-Tiger is possible for a young Infernal, otherwise it would be impossible to do in all but the longest-scope games and therefore not be worth publishing the charms for.

>>50663937
Yeah, the main thing you need to worry about there is that if you don't get them in your taxi quick enough and with no forewarning, you'll have a bunch of fat, wet primordials trying to penetrate your Inner World.

>>50664103
Does Dresden Files not have companion imports?

>>50664103
What's importing, duh.

>>50664094
I was counting on things like Experience Like a River (Forgotten Realms), Skillful Acquisitions (Overlord), and to a lesser degree, Enhanced Mastery (Worm) to get the job done quickly.

And I also have no time limit, being trapped and all of that.

>>50664122
Fair enough, though I would point out that long-scope games are the best part about Exalted, with time-skips where you rule over areas you've brought under control.

>>50661525
Would you kill a puppers if doing so gave you an ability to Shine Spark in real life.

>>50664206
Sure, but those are usually on the scale of years, not centuries.

>>50661525
Whoops, missed this one. It will be in the Speed Module.

Spazer Beam [200sp] – Of course, you may find yourself fighting more than one target, and the weapons offered here leave something to be desired in range and spread. This lovely upgrade fixes that problem just a little, letting you fire your weapon in a 3-wave spread that covers a wider area in front of you, letting you strike larger or multiple targets depending on the angle that you aim. Good for clearing a room.

Ice Beam [200sp] – It’s best to keep a cool attitude to this weapon. This freezes your weapon’s ‘bullets’ to extreme sub-zero temperatures, enough so that human-sized biological beings that are unfortunate enough to be caught in its blast will be frozen solid almost immediately. The freeze won’t last too long on its own, but often just long enough to shatter a poor foe into pieces with a well-placed missile. This is the principle weakness of Metroids, and as such is a very important weapon if you plan on dealing with such creatures.

>>50664209
Maybe. Depends on if it's Metroid's Shine Spark or its inspiration, the Getter Shine Spark. Because with the second one I could punch open a hole into Getter Valhalla, where that cute pupper lives forever cheering up the brave warriors fighting the forces of evil. So that would be okay. Otherwise, no, it's not worth it. I love the Shine Spark, but not that much.

>>50664068
Your torment would still be a lot more trigger-happy than usual, despite your Urge now being defined by yourself.

Your coadjutator would refuse to be fully subsumed through drawback fiat, just to bitch at you.

And you'd still have to deal with the drawbacks until you manage it. Which... will still take a pretty long time to raise your Essence, if not close to 10 years?

>>50664094
Technically, I think you can?

If you rush essence and take the Ascendency Mantle Charm to go up to Essence 6.

>>50664079
>nice trips also I was under the impression that it was mandatory.
Nope.

Sure, the Yozis want you to free them. But you're not required to free or imprisoned yourself, if you don't take drawbacks.

>also if you go devil-tiger how bad an idea is kidnapping Lillun? and if you don't kidnap her. Is there any way to get spare Exaltations?
Not too bad, aside from the Reclamation Yozis diverting everything they have to killing you and getting her back.

You could steal Monstrances for Abyssal Exaltations?

>>50664262
>Monstrances for Abyssal Exaltations

I will have to look into that,would importing my companions as infernal exalts and then making copies of their souls then removing the exaltation from The replicated soul work?

>>50664079
>>50664262
Oh... And Lilun's in the heart of the Convectile Malfeasant (not sure how to spell it anymore)... So, you're going to be in the middle of Hell when you try to kidnap/rescue her.

>>50664333
>Convectile Malfeasant

God fucking damn it, I play at being an Edge Lord but this place name alone takes the cake.

>>50664230
Did you make an account on SB, Heavens?

>>50664331
Not without some seriously impressive soul-copying tech. Exaltations are near impossible to recreate, that's why the Yozis and Deathlords stole Solar shards instead of making their own. Unless you were a crafter on par with Autochton and an embodiment of perfection on par with the Unconquered Sun, you'd likely get copies that were missing the Exaltations.

>>50664134
>>50664200
Check the import options. There's no way to import companions as Outsiders or get them access to Stars and Stones.

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Gamer build for Infernals is done.

Exalted:Infernals- I've been to this setting before, but now I'm from a Heavy Metal cover apparently. I can jam to this.
0/2700
Caste:Defiler(SWLiHN)-Magic!
Favored:Isidoros
Savant- I am a mage and a maker of things, it is the obvious option, though Noble is tempting.
Free Savant's Understanding
Discount Architectual Madness
Discount Vitriolic Craftsman- The making of things should always be perfected
Discount Crystal Clarity
Discount Principle of Hierarchy- I don't like making my Minions mindless, but I do like them falling into line easier.
Discount Irrestistible Force- My Will is my own, and none will stop it.
Discount That Twists The Sky- And I will beholden to no Fate.
Sorcerous Initiation of the Yozi- Magic!
The Inner World- A World-Body inside my own soul that I can shape to my will? This pleases me.
Descending Hierachy- MINIONS! That I make! Yes, this is just perfect.
Heart and Soul- And now the Minions have a leader.
Discount Staff of Forbidden Light
Purest Vitriol- Good for Crafting
Chalcanth
Exotic Components
Discount The Crystal Palace
Coven- Forsetti(Slayer), Lupa(Malefactor), Lilith(Scourge), Gnarl(Fiend)


Too many words for Drawbacks, will post those next.

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>>50664396

Remembering a Past Life+0- Ah good, my actions before still stand.
Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain+100- Well it's not my usual cup of tea, but it'll make the minions laugh so why not.
Demonic Aspect+100- Great, I'm an ugly ape-man or something.
Omen Weather+100- Part of me feels like I should be worried that everyone will know I'm coming, but then I remembered that subtlety is for pansies.
Terrible Torment+200- Oh go fuck yourselves you crippled cunts.
Past Lives Matter+200- GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HEAD!
A Hellish Rival+200- Some little brat wants a piece of me? Bring it on! I've got endless minions!
Demon Hunters+200- This could be more annoying, but I'm not subtle anyway.
Return of the Infernal Jumper+300- So I have to let one of these bastards out? Damn it!
Guard Duty+300- Wait, what? You're not kidding? I get to force them back inside? I love you benefactor!

Pic Related was not brought along, though she would make a MAGNIFICENT Scourge

>>50664230
Psst... Principle is always a noun. You mean principal.

>>50664379
>Not without some seriously impressive soul-copying tech. Exaltations are near impossible to recreate, that's why the Yozis and Deathlords stole Solar shards instead of making their own. Unless you were a crafter on par with Autochton and an embodiment of perfection on par with the Unconquered Sun, you'd likely get copies that were missing the Exaltations.


I'm not, but my jump coordinator is and I bought this off of her

>Not Enough Items, Cheat Mode (1000, requires NEI, Recipe Mode): Once per month, you can use the recipe menu to instead duplicate any single item you possess. The new item is indistinguishable from the first, and has all the same powers. The one/month limit applies even if you grant this power to a companion; only the first attempted duplication in any given month will succeed.

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>>50664409
>Return of the Infernal Jumper
>Guard Duty
Oh shit. Good luck, my nigga.

>>50664373
Shush. I'm being a spy. Don't tell anyone.

Wave Beam [200sp] – A unique weapon with electrical properties, the Wave beam is not only the bane of many sensitive electronics or ones without proper protection, but it can even pass through inanimate objects with a surprising amount of ease, able to move past even reinforced security doors with little effort. This makes shooting through walls a viable strategy, though thick enough material can make the energy dissipate quickly before it can actually impact anything or anyone. It won’t go on forever, effectively. Still, if you need to catch someone by surprise...

Plasma Beam [200sp] – Burn, burn, burn. If the Wave Beam is the bane of solid objects and electrical systems, the Plasma Beam is the enemy of everything else. This super-heated beam can penetrate all but the strongest of armor like a hot knife through butter, and is likely to even set the target it struck on fire within mere seconds after impact. Combined with the Charge Beam, you can reduce even the most hardy of foes to ash.

>>50664420
Oh, whoops. Thank you.

>>50664433
Ah, but who truly possesses the soul/Exaltation?

>>50664409
>Yozi
>Bastards
Pick one.

Staking a claim with permission on Disgaea 5.

>>50664433
That's nice, but irrelevant. Exaltations aren't items, they're semi-autonomous spiritual symbiotes. Even if they did count, you'd need to tear your Companion's soul apart to get access to it, and I doubt they'd be able to come back from that even with Companion respawn. But then again, when has committing atrocities ever stopped you?

>>50664331
...I would be /very/ suprised if copying Exaltations worked. As >>50664379 says.

Also, they're just attached to their souls, not really part of them?

>>50664361
Pretty much. First two chapters of Infernals are pretty bad. 'Conventicle Malfeasant', it was.

At least their king being named 'Malfeas' kind of sorta explain the name?

>>50664433
You don't really posses it though. And it's not much of an item.

>>50664409
>spoiler
...your good taste continues.

I was planning to import them as a Scourge.

>>50664548
Here's the thing, Chara is probably Gamer's best friend at this point. He helped her not be so kill-crazy, she helped him deal with the loss of his friends/minions due to a drawback in Undertale. So he doesn't like importing her to settings where there is going to be tons of death and destruction, despite the how perfect she is for a Scourge.

He did not waifu her, though I'm considering changing that at some point, but it would need to the right jump to give the right reasons.

>>50664479
>>50664516
>>50664512
Here's the plan
1. Become an infernal exalted,now I have an exaltation in My Soul.

2.head to Madoka,my soul is now external and Held inside an item.

3.Not Enough Items, Cheat Mode on my soul gem roughly 120 times. Ripping out the exaltation and storing it separately, then Re-Absorbing the remaining soul essence.

now I have roughly 120 Exaltations .

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Missiles [100sp] – A Power Beam isn’t always going to cut it, especially against foes resistant to simple energy shots. That’s what this secondary weapon is for. While limited in ammunition and requiring reloads, missiles are exactly what they sound like – anti-personnel and even anti-vehicle explosive weapons designed to ruin someone’s day. They can be fired instantly and explode on contact in a lovely little ‘boom’. For 100sp more, you can ‘charge’ the missile, consuming more ammunition but firing an incredibly powerful Super Missile at a target, able to turn most ground vehicles into scrap with a well-placed shot. Boom.

Taking a food break, now. At the rate I'm going, the Power Armor section should be done today. I dare say the entire jump can be finished in up to two days if I try hard enough.

>>50664615
And what makes you think that copying the Soul Gem would copy the soul inside it?

>>50664615
I don't think you can use Cheat Mode to duplicate your own soul. I think you're just going to get a bunch of empty soul gems.

>>50664661
don't get cocky, This is one of The cursed jumps. so be safe out there

>>50664683
because it seems weird for >>50664433
to copy a battery And not the power inside of it?

>>50664661
Neat. Can we get the Ice Missiles and Diffusion Missiles, too? Maybe with the ability to modify them to load a chemical payload of our choice rather than cryogenic fluid? Pretty please?

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>>50664468
>Even Heavens is abandoning us.

>>50664704
You're making a false equivalence. Your soul isn't just some energy that's charging up the Soul Gem, it's your locus of identity and personhood. You ever heard that saying "You don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body"? It's like that. A better analogy here would be like copying a vehicle with Cheat Mode. Would you expect it to copy the person inside the vehicle?

>>50664704
That's a bad analogy. A better analogy would be trying to copy a computer and expecting each one to have its own internet.

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To the guy last thread who asked about how the new Fate jump is going, it's doing fantastically well. Perks are done (Did fucking 60+ descriptions over 2 days) and items only have 10 or so left. Then it's just companions and drawbacks.

Is it wrong to be too lazy to link to a previous thread

>>50662843
You still get CP.

>>50664770
Is the dragon core still going to be an item in the new version?

>>50664755
>You're making a false equivalence. Your soul isn't just some energy that's charging up the Soul Gem, it's your locus of identity and personhood. You ever heard that saying "You don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body"? It's like that. A better analogy here would be like copying a vehicle with Cheat Mode. Would you expect it to copy the person inside the vehicle?

I'm not saying that it isn't, I'm saying that it's inside the Soul gem and being used as a power source for it.
>>50664761
I don't think so, I think it would be more like expecting to copy a computer and expecting to have the same info on the hard drive.

>>50664761
>>50664755
but please elaborate on your reasoning, I know I'm usually missing something and would like to hear more about your arguments before this becomes a thing.

>>50664661
>>50664770
Could we get a WIP?

>>50664770
>Pats the saber on head
Good job

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>>50664755
It's not like there aren't actually legit ways to make souls items.

But does this mean I've been making empty mana potion bottles this whole time?

>>50664809
In a way, yes.

>>50664820
In a bit, takes me a while to format it so it doesn't look like ass on anything but notepad and I want to finish a couple things before posting another WIP.

>>50664837
Thankee.

>>50664840
could you tell me more? If there is a better way to do this and I'm doing it wrong. I'd like to know the good way.

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>>50664593
Huh, okay.

I basically picked up Chara specifically because I wanted to import them as a Scourge.

Because it'd be perfect. Genocide with a knife and a smile on their face? Adorjani as fuck.

>>50664812
Cheat Mode copies an item, not a person. Your soul is your personhood. So Cheat Mode wouldn't copy it unless you first removed those traits that allow it to make you a person from it. Unfortunately, that would also make you incapable of hosting a Celestial Exaltation, so your shard would depart.

>>50664840
Do your mana potions have self-awareness and a capacity for eudaimonia? If not, I think it's fine. If so, you're a monster and deserve disappointment.

>>50664870
Like I said, she would be magnificent at it, but Gamer doesn't want her to do it.

>>50664883
okay, that seems reasonable. I interpreted souls as a kind of energy pattern containing consciousness not unlike a combination between an unmounted brain tape and a power source, but if they are in fact personhood itself that would not work,thank you for explaining it to me

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>>50663352
Himedachi the poison takes forever it seems. Several minutes for one prick to spread the poison. 20minutes for illusions to do any damage. Does more than one poke speed up the poison?

>>50664721
Ice Missiles are a bit redundant since you can get Ice Beam and don't suffer from Samus' handicap in Fusion. I'll be adding Diffusion and ways to make 'custom' missiles, though.

>>50664820
Hasn't changed that much, but sure.
http://pastebin.com/Y9CcJKq6

>>50662130
Be a thief/rouge of void in SBurb.
Then steal his nonexistance so you can talk to him.
It's just a matter of convincing him to stop at that point.

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>>50664980
Dude, the main advantage isn't really in its combat uses.

>>50664944
Well, you're part right. They do contain consciousness. But personhood is an artifact of consciousness, it comes along with the territory. Your soul still counts as a person, even if you've removed it from your body and rigged it to operate it via telepresence.

>>50663473
It is. Do you think I could go ther with generic action movie for that sweet gun kata.

>>50665067
We have A equilibrium jump though....

>>50664857
Not him, but...

Demon Souls gives you a free perk that can "congeal" souls into an essence that can be physically manipulated. It and Tales of Symphonia are great for making souls nearly indistinguishable from other "items", and I suspect you'd need to be able to do so to coax a soul into a DS3 Transposition Kiln. It probably wouldn't work on your soul, though...

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>>50665020
"Oh god not this again."

>>50665100
huh

>>50665117
>Demon Souls gives you a free perk that can "congeal" souls into an essence that can be physically manipulated. It and Tales of Symphonia are great for making souls nearly indistinguishable from other "items", and I suspect you'd need to be able to do so to coax a soul into a DS3 Transposition Kiln. It probably wouldn't work on your soul, though...

this does not seem like the kind of thing that would be a good idea to do your self though...

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>>50665008
That's great advice, except my usual reaction to SBURB is to stare at the wiki pages and feign comprehension. Like, I understand the basic premise, but the steps you have to go through to win the game boggle my mind.

I know space/time frogs are involved and you have to send clones of your own selves to the past to become your own grandpa so you can exist, then there's epic quests involved for every player, and if you don't get it all done before the black army finishes murdering the white you lose...

And that's not even counting in the alchemy. Or the whole, picking an item to shove into that one device so I don't get flattened by a meteor, but all the enemies on my planet gain aspects of that items as well as the final boss...

It's a writer's true nightmare.

>>50665117
You'd still probably need specialized tools to work with Exaltations, though. They're more slippery than normal souls, they unbind from a removed soul a lot more easily than the hun and po. Not saying it's impossible, just that you couldn't just casually do it. Copy the Jade Prison, or the Monstrances of Celestial Portion, or Lillun, or Lytek's tools, or something like that. Those should show you how to hold onto the Exaltation after you've removed and crystallized it so that it doesn't just sublimate away.

>>50665163
You could just take the Void Session drawback, then all you have to do is go 10 years without getting ganked by a Consort Skeleton.

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>>50664842
>In a way

>>50665163
For my prototypings I mostly go with what I think would make for fun enemies to fight. A symbiote from Marvel is almost certainly going to go into it. I dislike how all the monsters are pallete swaps. Since all monsters are affected by the clothing-based prototypings, they should all be covered completely in a black skin, make for better aesthetic consistency.

>>50664870
I always went by the NarraChara interpretation myself. So she's only Scourge material if you step in and do a Genocide run, otherwise she ends up more of a semi-snarky commentator.

>>50665167
Would Lytek's tools be able to make other souls "blank"? I know they work for Exaltations, but I'm wondering if they could be adapted to other souls?

>>50665265
Maybe. I know there's another god in charge of normal souls being wiped, though, might be better to go to them. Can't remember which one, but I'm sure you could find out by making some inquiries around the Bureau of Humanity.

>>50664883
Cheat mode should be able to copy souls.
You can use it on soul shards in the Minecraft jump so I don't see why it couldn't if you managed to get one in your inventory.

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>>50664812
This might help to copy/create your own Exaltations:

>Be a Awakened Mage with Prime and Spirit at 5
>Here We Are (Undertale)
>Metaphysical Biology, PhD (Evangelion)
>Be a Binder, Cleric and Wizard of a high level
>Mage fuckery in Anima might also help
>Be a Page of Heart and fuse with a Thief and Mage of any element (Blood and Light might help you) (Sburb)
>Maybe high-enough DC magic related to life and souls?
>All the genius perks that you can get your hands into


And maybe even with that it might not be enough, but hey, with all of this I'm pretty sure that you could create your own soul-weapons.

>>50665328
Soul shards of animals or mindless undead. Those aren't people.

>>50664031
Wild Card said it's absolutely impossible to use Stars and Stones on yourself, even if you give it to a companion.

>>50665341
Still souls m8.

>>50665349
Got a quote on that? Because that seems to make little sense even for Wildcard.

>>50665349
Wild Cards out of jump rulings are pretty retarded.
We know. You don't need to remind anyone.

>>50665357
Not people souls, m8. I never said souls couldn't be copied, I said the souls of people couldn't be.

>>50665339


>Be a Awakened Mage with Prime and Spirit at 5
can still get
>Here We Are (Undertale)
have it
>Metaphysical Biology, PhD (Evangelion)
went full Angel so I couldn't get that one
>Be a Binder, Cleric and Wizard of a high level
have a companion with that
>Mage fuckery in Anima might also help
can get it
>Be a Page of Heart and fuse with a Thief and Mage of any element (Blood and Light might help you) (Sburb)
morals prevent me from doing that
>Maybe high-enough DC magic related to life and souls?
can probably get it
>All the genius perks that you can get your hands into
pretty much done

>>50665163
Go Void Session.

There, you're not required to win. Just to fight mid-tier enemies.

Winning is not that hard, anyway. You can even get the rings and stop the Black King without fighting, just by getting Jack and the Major as your companions and helping them a little so they can overthrow the two Monarchs for you.

>>50665382
Endermen are capable of pretty sophisticated thought.
Of course this is Minecraft, but they're not dumb animals.
I'm pretty sure you can use them too.

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>>50665220
That sounds terrifyingly boring and dangerous, from the wiki description. I mean, I suppose I could, but it's a bit of a cop-out.

>>50665224
Does prototyping something destroy it, or just change it's form? I've never been clear on that.

>>50665392
>morals prevent me from doing that

When I say fuse, I also mean something like have them give you their powers via any sharing method that you have.

>>50665363
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/45490937/#45498133

>>50665411
>Does prototyping something destroy it, or just change it's form? I've never been clear on that.

Destroys it, but you can also get more copies of it.

>>50665411
>Does prototyping something destroy it, or just change it's form? I've never been clear on that.
Prototyping something absorbs it into the kernalsprite. It's still around, it's just a spooky spirit now.

>>50665363
Not him, but I found it on 4chan archive
>It's intended to be an absolute limit. Stars and Stones is meant to be used on other people, not you. I obviously can't stop you from figuring out a way around this, but in that specific case, it's like Sarda's magic - any people you give it to can use it on themselves, but not you.
That specific case was giving it to a companion with Lip Service.

>>50665450
That seems incredibly petty and pointless, given anything you could have your companions might have too, so par for the course for Wildcard.

I guess we'll just need to use Real Eater or something.

>>50665392
>morals prevent me from doing that

>Tera
>Morals

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>>50665411
>>50665224
Be careful not to prototype anything too god-like or powerful.

You don't want to have a Bec Noir in your session. Or an invincible Black King/Queen laughing at you.

>>50665394
Pretty much, yeah. Careful not to let Jack get his hands on the Ring though.

That's bad news central, even if it only gets him basics.

>>50665480
You don't have to keep shitposting, Timmy. You already drove him away.

>>50665450

So he admits that other methods can be used to use it on yourself then. Although his ruling is still kinda stupid. He never quits being a asshole.

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So might be leaving soon to get a PS4 so I dunno if I'll be around for too much longer so I'll just poste the paste.

http://pastebin.com/JQxAbHKB

Missing the Spiritual Healing perk for Kirei since I forgot to do that and the Mystic Eyes ones since i haven't decided what I'm including as OC ones but it's otherwise done perk wise. Items are only half done.

Would you all say that bravery and emotion control perks affect willpower?

>>50665494
>prototype Sword of the Cross, Thor's Hammer, or a similar judgmental artifact
>laugh at the useless Underlings

>>50665543
To a degree. It depends on what you're using your willpower for, but I think it would apply in most cases.

>>50665528
How much does Wish Granting increase the cost of a spell?

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>>50665438
>>50665441
Huh. Okay, thanks. I think I'll use the Robot Butler from Fallout. Having impeccably polite, tea-toting enemies sounds like something I can deal with. Plus it'll give that Black King some class. Maybe.

I'll probably go to SBURB after Strike Witches, then Undertale. The whole point of this is to challenge my writing skills and SBURB is certainly going to do that. Besides, I keep staring at it. Might as well.

>>50665494
Yeah, I'll make sure to tell my Companions that. I've got a few dangerous things inside my Warehouse that shouldn't be put into this game.

>>50665419
>When I say fuse, I also mean something like have them give you their powers via any sharing method that you have.

does That stuff count as magic or spirituality?
If it does, I have sacrificial bestowment, if it doesn't I absorbed Amazo in young justice.

I was kind of Planning on going either Knight of space or rage or thief or Prince of doom....

Light Beam [200sp] – A trademark weapon of the Luminoth as their conflict with the Ing began to spiral out of control, this operates similarly to the plasma beam – high temperature beam of light that is good at piercing defenses. However, it is also the natural enemy of things that rely on the ‘dark’ or ‘absence of light’ for their power or their physical forms...it could perhaps even count as a ‘holy’ weapon in some worlds, depending on what you fight. Unlike the version the Luminoth use, this beam does not have limited ammunition and can be used at will.

Diffusion Missiles [200sp – Requires Missiles] – A unique weapon of destruction, currently still in prototype stages in the Galactic Federation R&D. In addition to the already potent destructive power of a missile, these missiles can actually be ‘charged’ with energy from the arm cannon. When fully charged, the missile will explode in a ‘wave’ of the chosen energies in an expanding explosion, enough to cover an entire room. This is a powerful but dangerous area of effect weapon, and is best used when you want everything else in the room frozen/on fire/electrocuted/dead. As a bonus, this comes with blueprints for modifying the standard-issue missiles and different types of explosives you can use in tandem with them...or even fluids or biological agents.

>>50665589
Oh, that's a cool take on the Diffusion Missiles, letting them charge up with the beam upgrades. I like that.

>>50665568
I'm just trying to compile a list of 'willpower' perks, but things aren't always so cut and dry.
What about perks that increase your motivation? I mean that's basically willpower, right?

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>>50665548
...And then have an 'Oh Fuck' moment when the Black King /can/ wield his variant?

>>50665608
Should be, unless you're the sort of person to be motivated by really petty things.

>>50665577
uh, a lot. Like, exponentially? We never get much detail but assume it's multiple times greater.

>>50665619
But only the truly good can wield the Sword of the Cross. If that was the case, the Black King either wouldn't be able to use it or he would not be a threat because he is good.

>>50665589
Okay, now I have to Import my Driver belt as my power Armor So that I can have missiles packed with cosmic energy i.e. friendship power!

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>>50665548
>Black King gets a sword made from the of scythe of the angel of death, Thorr's hammer and the demonic version of everything.

That's Paradox Space saying 'Fuck you kindly'.

>>50665663
Just because he's good doesn't mean he's not going to fight you to the death. In fact, it'll be even worse if he can.

>>50665548
>Not prototyping Kamidachi just to see what happens when one Kamidachi hits another.

>>50665585
It's not magic at least. Sburb magic's distinct from Class/Aspect stuff.

Might count as spiritual stuff, not sure?

Amazo's probably a better bet though.

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>>50665750
>pic related.

>>50665585
>, if it doesn't I absorbed Amazo in young justice.
Are those your morals?

Poor Amazo was probably more intelligent that you and your companions.

Stop discriminating the robots.

>>50665757
it was ruled that young justice Amazo can't copy magic stuff so that wouldn't help me with that,all my companions also have sacrificial bestowment. So if it's spiritual. We can all pool our classpects with each other.
>>50665788
Nope, it was ruled that Amazo in young justice was not a sapient being. and it's not like I haven't been a robot myself now and then.

>>50665782
Is it at all possible to turn your past life solar into one of your third circle demons?

Also any chance of inner world allowing inactive companions to chill inside? Since demons that are citizens become subject to companion rules it would kind of suck to have to start evicting them after getting too many.

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>>50665812
Oh. Just in case, I should note, you're only getting the individual classpects (not the crossed-streams Class-Class of Aspect-Aspect kinda stuff) if you're just sharing powers without complete fusing.

>>50665840
>Is it at all possible to turn your past life solar into one of your third circle demons?
Sure, yes?

They're mostly an imprint of memories and personality though. Grabbing the 'You Are Not Me' perk would probably help make them distinct enough to spin off in their own being.

>Also any chance of inner world allowing inactive companions to chill inside? Since demons that are citizens become subject to companion rules it would kind of suck to have to start evicting them after getting too many.
Hm... Feels like it risks of making it too good for its price. But it does sound like a good idea.

>>50665840
Just place your House of Mystery/Secrets inside of yourself.

>>50665528
Why did you nerf the magic core?

>>50665949
Neat. I was planning to rebrand to not!Solar with primordial elements as a devil tiger, so I wanted Solar dude to stick around so we could bro it up more personally.

>>50665528
>>50665995
She did, didn't she? Used to be B rank.

>>50665949
>Hm... Feels like it risks of making it too good for its price. But it does sound like a good idea.
Maybe just make it so that your created life can hang out in there, counting your Coadjutor. Fits with the theme of Yozi being living landscapes populated by their descendants, and means that you can fill your Inner World with mini-civilizations without running into issues.

>>50665949
yeah I figured that,I also figure that since I can externalize them all be able to mix them some other way. Also, can we keep stuff in our internal world?

also, where should I start looking for these Monstrances of Celestial Portion? I don't know anything about the setting...

deathlords aren't the YOZI right? I don't think I should be stealing from those people, but I have no idea how much trouble I will be in for screwing over the deathlords...

>>50666017
That's a pretty great idea for Justice, I'm stealing it.

>>50666040
The Neverborn are the dead primordials, the Deathlords are Solars killed in the Usurpation who swore service to the Neverborn in return for revenge.

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>>50665528
>Jumper
>My future self wants to kill me

OK, since I'm an asshole, does that mean that I go so wrong that things turn bad enough that he has to fix mistakes with his time fuckery or he suddenly turns good after millions of years jumping?

>>50665657
Hmm... The Second Magic essentially gives you the ability to constantly instantly refill your mana pool, right?

>>50666062
so roughly an equal amount of trouble then?

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>>50666040
Monstrances of Celestial Portion are artifacts that the Deathlords use to hold onto Abyssal Exaltations when they're not using them. Deathlords are the ghosts of the most evil First Age Solars who were empowered by the Neverborn, those Primordials that were killed in the War but are not dead while they can continually lie. So you'd find the Monstrances in the fortresses of the Deathlords, deep in the Underworld.

Pic related is a monstrance, by the way. It's a sinister-sounding word, but it actually comes from the same Latin root word as "demonstrate". It's a decorative element used by Catholics, the name was chosen for the religious associations, since they hold the corrupted divine soul-artifacts that are Abyssal Exaltations.

>>50665528

I really like it. I've been on a Nasuverse kick latetly and this is grand. Quick question though does the grail mud mana replenish and if it does not, would dragon heart fill it?

>>50665949
Would sharing and not fusing allow things like Time-Space or Lord-Muse in a single being?

Annihilator Beam [200sp – Requires Light Beam and Dark Beam] – While the Ing and the Luminoth are opposed to each other by nature, their technology is frighteningly powerful when combined together. This is a testament to that. This weapon combines the best qualities of the Light and Dark Beam, in addition to having a rapid rate of fire and being able to ‘home in’ on targets without any input from the user, as if sensing what target is the most important to strike first. As a bonus, it has a much faster rate of fire, as well.

Dark Beam [200sp] – The corrosive and malevolent energy of the Ing has been harnessed by you, and does not suffer from limited ammunition, to boot. This darkened and foul beam acts similar to an acid, attaching to and burning through the flesh and metal of an unfortunate target...and it only gets worse should it come into contact with vital organs. The other benefit is that this focused energy, following the Ing ability to traverse dimensions, is that spatially displaced or dimensionally intangible beings can very much be hurt by this weapon. Woe onto them.

>>50666123
I think I'm going to get a lot of use out of these ones.

>>50666123
you're working your way up to the hyper beam right?or is that going to require a scenario ?

>>50665812
>So if it's spiritual. We can all pool our classpects with each other.

Wow, mate. Color me surprised that you're erring on the reasonable side instead of vastly over-wanking a perk

But, uh...

Sacrificial Bestowment (SB) is not limited to spiritual powers.

>Sacrificial Bestowment can be used to give things other than your demon powers. They’ll put themselves into a nicely self-contained package, however. An Infamous Conduit Magatama would let someone charge from whatever your element is and use your basic ranged thing, but they’ll have to work to get the unique and esoteric stuff, and until they master it they 100% can’t do anything that you couldn’t. Magatama sort of teach the abilities contained inside to their user, in addition to them figuring tricks out themselves.

>D&D Wizard Magatama or FMA Alchemist Magatama work too, but the mastery rule is even more egregious in those cases, so you might want to teach them yourself for those things.

>>50665528
How are you going to handle the True Magics, exactly?

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>>50666027
...Yes. yes, that could work.

>>50666040
>Also, can we keep stuff in our internal world?
Yup.

>also, where should I start looking for these Monstrances of Celestial Portion? I don't know anything about the setting...
The Underworld. Look for the most terrible fortresses/the biggest piles of Soulsteel.

>deathlords aren't the YOZI right? I don't think I should be stealing from those people, but I have no idea how much trouble I will be in for screwing over the deathlords...
No, but they work for dead primordials, known as the Neverborn.

They're ancient Solar super-Ghosts, who have access to pretty much whatever Solar/Abyssal charms they need and are basically ridiculously overpowered.

>>50666093
Still probably better than trying to steal from the Yozi in the middle of Hell. Probably.

>>50666114
Yeah, the word doesn't actually mean anything bad.

But I'm pretty sure the Monstrances in Exalted are iron maiden/coffin type things. Since Solars can be imprisoned and tortured in them.

>>50666121
You could have the powers of (for example) both a Lord of Time and a Muse of Space in one being through sharing without problem, I think?

But they would not combine to become a Lord-Muse of Space-Time.

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>>50666205
True Magic for everyone!

People get angry and it becomes True Magic for no one.

>>50666219
>But I'm pretty sure the Monstrances in Exalted are iron maiden/coffin type things. Since Solars can be imprisoned and tortured in them.
Oh yeah, good point. Well, there are other models of monstrance. Some models actually do have a little cabinet in them to put the sacrament in. So scale the monstrance up and you could fit a Solar inside that cabinet.

>>50666219
thank you for your answers

>They're ancient Solar super-Ghosts, who have access to pretty much whatever Solar/Abyssal charms they need and are basically ridiculously overpowered.

so how do A rank Noble phantasms stack up against Solar/Abyssal charms because my understanding is that Solar/Abyssal charms are bullshit levels of OP

>>50666219
>You could have the powers of (for example) both a Lord of Time and a Muse of Space in one being through sharing without problem, I think?

>But they would not combine to become a Lord-Muse of Space-Time.

Would temporary fusions (like Gem Fusing or Potara Earrings) work for the combined powers or does it need to be a permanent fusion?

>>50666219
>But they would not combine to become a Lord-Muse of Space-Time.

Still cool enough. I guess I can made another combo featuring more passive things...

>>50666243
That's what I'm afraid of.

>>50666198
Thanks for clarifying that, but speaking of sacrificial bestowment How many demonic slugs
do you think can reasonably fit inside a Human sized brain without causing any problems? I'm asking because one of the reasons I'Been a Bit shy of going all out with it is I don't know how Many things I can Bestow at once