Are the Black Templars closet heretics?

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Can you be so anti chaos that you become heretics?

>>50650192
>>50650046
Obvious Malice worshippers.

>Hates Chaos
>Black and White colors
>Overly religious chapter name

>>50650046
No /thread

>>50650255
>threading your own post
You may be right, but you gave me cancer.

>>50650229

Crypro Sons of Malice chapter?

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The Black Templars are the only non heretical chapter in the whole of the imperium.

>>50650046

No, Dark Angels are

>>50650046
Cant be a heretic if the Emperor himself has a direct line of communication to your chapter, its literally impossible.

>>50652450

You don't really believe that do you?

>>50650046
Yeah. No Librarians means no one to prevent Chaos corruption and soul checking for impurities. Therefore the entire chspter could secretly be corrupt and we wouldn't even know.

Besides, Sigismund was Dorn's greatest disappointment. His actions led to one of Dorn's favorite sons getting killed.

>Sigismund is about to lead an important battle
>Speaks with fortune telling witchseer
>Hey you'll die if you lead this battle
>Man, I don't want to die. Better call in sick for this one, let the older guy handle this
>Hey, he died! Wait, does that mean that I would have died then?
>SIGISMUND! MY FAVORITE SON IS DEAD BECAUSE OF YOU! ALL BECAUSE YOU LISTENED TO THE WORDS OF A WITCH!?
>Yo papa, I can explain!
>Not really though.
>GET OUT! YOU ARE NO LONGER AN IMPERIAL FIST!
>Wat.
>OUT.
Pretty much exactly how it happened.

t. Iron Warrior
Well, not exactly, but just about.

>>50652563

Hmmmmm. Like small scall dark angels. The MOTHER LOYAL chapter ever either 1) a ploy to conceal their ties to chaos 2) over compensation due to guilt

It's all coming together

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For a chapter so hellbent on killing anything with xeno,mutant, and heretical touch they should have a large distrust for the Inquisition

>>50653831

Because they wanna restrict our purging man its all a big conspiracy didnt you see those Celestial Lions we gave all that sweet war gear to use?

>>50653831

I thought some companies were butt buddies with the inquisition.

>>50653951

BTs and SoBs are extremely tight but if I do recall there have some small conflicts between the Templars and the inquisition

>>50654017
>there have some small conflicts between the Templars and the inquisition

Like? There's plenty of cooperation between them in their old codex and nothing about it has been said in the new fluff.

>>50650046
Does your post provide any insight into the reasoning that led you to ask the question?

>>50650192
>Muh horseshoe theory.

>>50654056

Mostly just some info how some in the Inquisition distrust the templars for the whole more than 1,000 marines thing and that whole situation with the Celestial Lions

>>50654157

But they're a "crusading" chapter so its OK! :^)

>>50654157
Retconned. They've never been above 1300 and are currently at 1100.

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>>50654175

I fucking love that loop hole

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>>50654200

>1100

OUT RAGE

HOW COULD A SPACE MARINE CHAPTER OPERATE IN SUCH A HERETICAL MANNER

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>>50654200

Eh ill still say they have more than 1000.

Ill start listening to the lore the day BL and its authors agree on one thing


or wait 5th ed codex im guessing right?

>>50654210
Not canon, nor was it ever. The loop hole was fanon, as the BT were never Codex Compliant in the first place, though now they are Codex Compliant as of the retcon.

>>50654235
newest edition puts the BT's at codex compliant, it's all part of GW's stategy/attempts to boil all the SM chapters down into one 'space marine' army, with the differences between chapters being largely just paintjob. This lets them reduce the number of armies they have to support.

>>50654294

Fanon>Cannon

>>50654175
>>50654210
>>50654294
I always thought the BT's were above chapter strength because they were so spread out fighting pitched battles everywhere they had little in the way of centralized logistics, so each Company essentially acted like it's own chapter and recruited built for themselves with the idea they'd sort it out after they were done crusading. But they never STOP crusading so they never bother to sort it out

>>50654294
>>50654315

Even now with the retcon the BT are still not codex compliant, they make a point of telling you that in the 7th ed codex.

>However, their first High Marshal, Sigismund, was distrustful of the Codex Astartes, believing it a slight against his Primarch’s teachings. Thus his Chapter has ever been divergent from Guilliman’s Codex, a trait that has become more pronounced as the millennia have ground past.

>>50654381

I think that was the fannon which is arguably much better and easier to think

>>50654381
As of new canon, the crusades BT go on are at the squad level, going out and pwning newbs, usually with IG support.

So allied detachments of BT are actually even fluffier than usual, as an allied detachment of SM with IG is already pretty fluffy.

>>50654436
Retcon is both newer than the codex, as well as the Codex not actually saying that they aren't compliant, but divergent, in which there is actually a difference. Divergent implies they are still following the codex, but not 100%.

>>50654437
Correct, that was part of the fanon.

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