Weapons General

>>50643175

Thats some pretty sweet Dominator you got there.

My game has something called a Gravity Mine, for used by powered-armored soldiers that have their own built in gravity control systems for slow-falling and rocket jumping. All members of the team synchronize with the gravity mine before deployment, and during a fight whoever has it can throw down the mine and activate it.

The mine itself doesn't no damage, but what it does do is create a really strong gravity field that fluctuates and throws all of its 'weight' in different directions every half-second. This creates a really chaotic environment that throws missiles and bullets off course, knocks people over, and can even crush people to death if they get too close to the mine.

Except for the people who synchronized with the mine ahead of time. Their internal gravity control systems know in advance the pattern the mine will perform, and compensates for it accordingly with no time delay. So everything else is getting tosses around like ragdolls or struggling to aim correctly, and these guys are acting perfectly fine and ignoring it.

It doesn't really do damage, but a lot of fights can be turned easymode by a well placed gravity mine.

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Love the Gravity Mine idea...nice concept. Can see many fun uses for that one.

The Dominator in action

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>>50643175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99NHb6B03s

>>50645713
That is the neatest fucking gun I've seen in a while. Damn!

>>50645497
Caster guns really do need more love.

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>>50645497
fuck yeah!

>>50643447
Stolen for my Space Opera game. you are a true gentleman Anon.

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>>50647098

>>50647098
Wait...what the fuck?

Is there a Blame! Anime?

>>50649022
No its another of Nihei's works. I forget the name. The one with the space colony made out of an asteroid, the mechs, weird third gender people, and uhhh fleshy lovecraftian horror type aliens.

>>50645817
One of my players in a Wild Talents game uses a Caster-inspired weapon that uses zero-point energy. He mostly uses it for destroying walls and vehicles because blowing holes through people's chests is frowned upon (but excellent when necessary). He had to actually use it in a fight to shoot someone and the whole table was stunned.

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>>50645713
The future is now.

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>>50649527

Knights of FPSidonia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pUffFPTtYM

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>>50643175
Is there a sexier weapon in all of existence?

>>50643175
Please aim carefully and eliminate the target.

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>>50643175

>>50649022
It's a homage to Blame! in a anime of other of Nihei's manga (Knights of Sidonia).
Basically on Sidonia-verse Blame! is an actual anime, and there're a few scenes of people watching it (it was a homage made by the animation team, who're Blame! fans. It does not appear in the manga).

Netflix is doing a Blame! anime/OVA series, but no one knows when they will start airing it

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>>50643175
Nihei is a man who loves his guns

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>>50652719

>>50652769
wtf tiny bullets

>>50652964
They're probably relativistic sabots or something. BLAME is ridiculously high-powered.

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>>50652964
There's also a scene where he stops a train with two or three shots.
Don't let the size fool you, the stopping power on this thing is insane

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>>50653016
It's from Biomega actually.
And here is the protag using the same gun with the extended rail to shot down ICBMs in orbit.
The recoil caused earthquakes and a tsunami.

Nihei handguns are missaplyed force made manifest

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>>50643175
Orks exist, and they live on Brazil

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Annnnd I'm out.

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>>50652769
>>50653016
And here's a GBE.

In a more sensible universe it would be strapped on a spaceship. In The City it's the only weapon you will ever need.

This >>50647098 is a shot on the lowerst setting

>>50653234
>>50653211

Why the fuck criminals want .50 bullets for?
Do they want to shoot people from behind a wall?

>>50653377
IIRC that was for stopping vehicle convoys. the rebels would kill the front and back cars with the .50 and ten they'd use regular guns to kill people in the middle vehicles and steal those aforesaid vehicles as well as all the things carried by the now very dead people.

>>50653377
To have gun fights against helicopters

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38041847

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blyat

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The medieval IRS was just as scare as the modern version.

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For the times you need a little extra help getting into close combat with large monstrous creatures.

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Alternative Ranger gear

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Do summoned creatures count as weapons?

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Hi-Point, it just keeps working...

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>>50643447
No offense, but anything "gravity" related really triggers me, especially in the context of science-fiction.

Like, what? Like, how? How are they doing this again? How exactly are you harnessing the power of "very-large-mass-in-space-attracts-other-smaller-masses-to-its-overwhelming-pull"?

I'm not trying to shit on you or anything, but DAMN do I get triggered when gravity-related weapons always get brought up in videogames and stuff. We spend billions of dollars a year trying to take 12 men OUT of Earth's gravity, and here you have a gun/sword/grenade/belt that somehow, MAGICALLY reverses Earth's gravitational pull on you? Like, how again? How exactly does this work again?

Damn.

Sorry.

As you were.

Also, unrelated note. I don't play Titanfall, so can anyone confirm for me if the weapon in pic related is from that game? Too lazy to Google Image.

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>>50643915
Would a handheld railgun even be effective? Could it be better than a normal gun at that size?
someone has already probably scienced this, but as far as im aware railguns are really only effective if you have a fucking powerstation behind them, however i dont know how much making the projectile bullet sized compensates for this...

>>50655210
Looks like an R-97. Think a P90 with a slightly bigger round.

>>50655215
It's sci-fi, you don't have to explain power problems

Jokes aside, yeah, it's probably not effective until we get some sort of magical power-supply that can give it the force it needs to really launch shit. But at the same time, once you can either make materials that are the right level of conductive and/or magnetic, and once you can solve those issues, there's no reason not to have magical anti-tank pistols in your space wizard game.

>>50655215
I feel as though you would need a much longer barrel than a handheld gun would allow. Railguns need a large track in order to reach speeds comparable to a gun.

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Best melee blunt weapon coming through

>>50655160
What are the non-gun things in this box? Are they tools for maintenance of the guns or other general tools? Sorry if I sound retarded.

>>50655365
maintenance. But also the tools for making bullets. Perhaps other tools, wouldn't know

>>50655365
Looks like cleaning tools, bullet molds and ladle for casting, disassembly tools, powder horn, ramrod/cleaning rod.

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>>50655561

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>>50655581

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>>50655612

>>50655210
It is from titanfall, R-101c carbine

>>50643175
Real one's. They can get really cool and weird. When you actually own guns, over the top stupid bullshit is an immediate immersion breaker. It's really irritating.

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James Cameron has always had such an eye for good future weapons technology. The man (or whoever his graphic designer is) is an absolute genius. Literally 20 years ahead of his time when it comes to guns and ammunition.

>Modular
>High-strength "super polymer"
>Lightweight
>Caseless (or telescoping) 6.2x35 ammunition
>80-round disposable "box type" magazine with built in ammo counter
>Underslung, configurable, semi-automatic 20mm grenade launcher with disposable magazine (8 fin-stabilized, HE, Fragmentation, Air Burst, or Buckshot rounds)
>Cheap
>Reliable
>Ergonomic

Literally GOAT-tier. Gave me a boner when I first saw it. James Cameron, wherever you are, you are BASED as fug.

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Nothing like having a pair of pistols that can shoot sticky grenades as a secondary function.

>tfw no Advent Rising 2 or 3
It could've been the Mass Effect before there was a Mass Effect.

>>50655626
>Dakka.jpg

>>50656088

knowledgeable anons are best anons

>>50648854
Which Harlock spinoff is this from?

>>50649763
That's....that's pretty awesome actually. Good use of zp-energy, and glad to see everyone stunned at the ruination it causes.

>>50653302
I feel like I should know what this is from.

>>50656690

Stargate Atlantis.

>>50656722
Thank you, dear anon.

>>50655051
Sick bardic songblade man.

>>50655210
I could imagine something very similar being said about atomic power before it was realized.

It's a common theme in many different science fictions that a theoretical far-off breakthrough in our understanding of gravitational forces or the universe in general might allow us to manipulate it and create gravity engines or weapons. It's certainly a leap and that's why it's science fiction but our current understanding of gravity certainly isn't the whole picture and there are some pretty crazy theories even today.

>>50655215
I've seen coil guns suggested as the more handheld-friendly version but it still has many of the same problems.

>>50647098
>>50653337
>explosion
but why

>>50658985
All the advanced tech shit in the walls?

>>50655581
Wow, that looks so much better than what they had in that new movie.

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>>50658939
The way I learned it, gravity is an inherent force on all things that consider mass. So, like, if you want to get rid of gravity, or if you want to increase it, you're going to have to tap into other dimensions, and/or sever this dimension from the rest of the other dimensions while simultaneously negating the effects of mass-based physics in this reality.

I think my main problem with a lot of these things is that they don't even bother to try and come up with even a slightly pseudo-sciency explanation for any of these things. Remember Call of Duty Advanced Warfare? Yeah. What the FUCK was that? Variant grenades? Sound Muffling breaching devices? I checked ont heir wiki and it doesn't even TRY to explain how the freak their tech works.

Here, watch this. I'm going to invent cryogenics.
>Space and time are inseparable
>Using this logic, scientists use massive antimatter/matter reactors to literally tear a hole in space itself
>This "Zero Space" has no concept of neither space nor time
>Since there's no time, people do not age
>They store important people in there because reasons
>Very dangerous, most people don't make it out alive, or even make it IN alive for that matter, either
>Still working on it, but they've been saying it'll be working and functional in the next 30 years
>They've been saying it'll work in the next 30 years for the past 100 years

See? Like, it doesn't make any freaking sense, but at least I TRIED. And even then, I tried to place some limits on it (wildly expensive and impractical just to house one guy, dangerous, still in prototype stage). C'mon, man. Science-fiction has to have SOME basis in actual science, otherwise the genre becomes science fantasy.

>>50659112
>an inherent force on all things that consider mass
But that says so little. The point is while we have some simple observations and basic explanations of them we don't understand gravity anywhere near fully.

I prefer no attempt at an explanation to the nonsense science word salad you seem to prefer and it honestly seems no more scientific than some of the gravity bullshit out there. An assumption of science is better than an outright bastardization unless you're going for parody.
I mean you're basically saying "my made up bullshit SCIENCE is better than your made up bullshit SCIENCE".

>>50656722
There's a great scene in the Atlantis/SG-1 crossover where Teal'c says to Ronan "I would like very much to have a gun like that." and Ronan replies "Get in line."

>>50656652
His gun has three shell types: an Impact shell which shoots through armor and basically everything else in its way and deals more damage that anything else in the party; a Wave shell that inflicts non-lethal damage to every part of the target's body at once, which is pretty nice and is used mostly to tenderize at target at the start of a fight; an a containment shell which freezes the target in place, which is used either as crowd control or to create a captive audience while the player's character spider-man snarks the incapacitated criminal or villain.

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>>50643175
When all else fails.

>>50653377
They use against APCs deployed by the military police, and helicopters.
Honestly idk what they expect to gain though, they should know by now that whenever they kill a cop or down a heli, things get very bad for them.

Very bad as in "they get hunted down one by one, tortured then killed by the elite police forces".

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>>50643175
Have you heard of RWBY? Where every weapon is also a gun? Like this handbag that transforms into a minigun.

https://rwby.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons

Impractical as fuck, but it looks awesome so, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>50653184
Reminds me of Guyver, where people run around with anti-spaceship lasers strapped to their chests.

>>50653625
Cheeki breeki

>>50659549
As if that's going to happen man.

It's motherfucking Brazil. The gangs are just the expendable footsoldiers in the streets that work for the cops.

All those elite police forces are the guys running the gangs.

When the cops blast criminals, they're just cleaning out the competition.

>>50656088
Are those disposable plastic magazines? Of all the future tech predictions i've seen that seems like the one that might actually happen.

>>50659803
Is the plot hook of that show that it's a world where everyone and everything is horribly animated and looks like it came out of Hot Topic?

>>50659112

Guy who mentioned the gravity mine thing originally.

I didn't feel the need to bring it up at the time, but since you care: in my setting gravity isn't just created. The tech for manipulating gravity is called a 'Gravity Lens'. Basically, you take the very small amount of gravity inherent in whatever you are working with, add an external source of power, and magnify its effect many times over.

There are a lot of limits to this tech. Unlike natural gravity, the effects of a gravity lens can only be applied in a single direction at a time (so if you walked to the other side of the machine you feel no pull at all) and the gravity effect has a hard cutoff range instead of going on forever. You get three or four meters away from the gravity mine and the pull just... stops. No 'pull gets weaker', just a hard event horizon where on one side the gravity lens reaches and on the other it doesn't.

It explicitly doesn't work like natural gravity, but it can be used to do a bunch of useful stuff regardless. The Gravity Lens was originally designed as a means to countering the force of acceleration for passengers on starships, so you can burn faster without flattening your crew. Since then, the tech has gotten smaller and more efficient, to the point that lots of ships have gravity lenses in the floor plates to provide gravity even when the ship isn't accelerating (though, as an example of the event horizon effect, the gravity lens only really reaches 3 feet or so up. If you drop something from above that distance, it won't fall unless you push it into the range of the gravity lens).

The range effect also means that you can't really use gravity lenses for flight. You can make takeoffs and landings easier sometimes, but no one is building a gravity lens with a range long enough to keep something flying at any appreciable distance.

>>50660350
yes, it's a dystopian world were good animation and taste are long gone

>>50648854
>Laser
>Having recoil
Help

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>>50656088
Those look almost as stupid as the MR-C

>>50661193

The beam turned the guy into space. Why would you assume its a laser, or you know how it works?

>>50661368
It's clearly not a kinetic weapon

>>50661422

So?

Plasma and particle beams are not kinetic weapons, and they would still have recoil. You are still shooting things that have mass out the other end.

Even laser weapons can have a 'kick' when uses in an atmosphere, not because light has mass (it doesn't) but because if you have a laser strong enough to kill a man in an instant (like most scifi. No one wants to sit there slowly roasting the enemy with their laser) you are probably superheating the air in your path when you fire, creating a thunderclap/sonic boom effect.

>>50661531
Plasma and Particle Beams have recoil because they are propelling an object with mass.

Lasers don't have recoil because all they do it project photons, which for all intents and purposes, are massless (They do actually have mass, but follow funky rules). The "recoil" of a laser weapon would be an extreme amount of heat discharged from generating the beam.

>>50650524
Yup, that's definitely the most retarded shit I've seen this week.

>>50661689
>They do actually have mass, but follow funky rules
they have momentum but do NOT have mass

and>>50661531
has a point for atmospheric use

>>50645497
I love the Caster-gun

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>>50643175
SPOOKY BOOGIE?

>>50655033
And this overly complicated monstrosity is preferable to good ol' gunpowder...why?

>>50662049
But that ionization of air would not create a backwards force, a-la recoil.

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>>50643175
That is one damn cool Dominator replica.

I know the eliminator mode takes awhile to switch over and looks pretty over the top, but I have to say I really love the show's conceptual idea of a gun for law enforcement that puts an emphasis on having the kill mode as a last resort. That show's entire society is a crossroads between an oppressed dystopia and a place that takes every possible measure to try and ensure the safety and happiness of its citizens.

>>50662891
Tea sets out for Spooky Boogie.

>>50655210
R-201 from Titanfall 2, R-101C's newer brother

>>50655550
>>

watching my table saw obliterate wood, which is much harder than me, I've fantasized about this weapon. Its beautiful. Instant touch = no more flesh

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>>50652236
I know of only one.

Have you heard whispers of the weapon they call...
the Rifle Bow?

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>>50653302
Aw yeah, Atlantis was the shit. I couldn't watch Khal Drogo on Game of Thrones without expecting him to quickdraw this gun.

>>50655210
...so I guess they didn't tell you about the Gravity Star in Titanfall 2, huh?

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>>50660350
I mean, kinda.

>>50673263
Wow

Really glad I never gave RWBY a chance after the preview episodes, I might have spent all this time hoping for it to get good

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>>50673284
In its defense, the weapons are pretty interesting. But the plot is bland, the dialogue is cringey, the voice acting is amateur, and the animation is on a shoestring budget. It's just weebish enough to get a niche audience.

>>50643175
>>50652236
>>50668995
the Dominator is a cool gun, but man is Psycho-Pass a dumb show and universe(I get that the whole system in the show is supposed to be heavily flawed, but it's honestly too messed up to make any sense at all, season 2 especially highlighted this by episode 4, completely ruined my suspension of disbelief)

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>>50643175
Are we doing magical guns?

>>50673284
Gets a lot better at season 4 though. Which isn't saying much, considering it took them 3 years to get there, but what the hey.

>>50653197
Unf-

>>50673736
sometimes we must admit to ourselves that we cannot know everything, and that sometimes, it just works.

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This fuckin thing is the standard handgun in my setting

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>>50674116
Gif of the action

>>50673284
>I might have spent all this time hoping for it to get good

It got slightly better at what it was doing originally (except for the fight scenes due to creator death), but then got cocky and started trying to add an actual plot and "more awesome stuff", and went right back to square negative one.

The haphazard flailing of its writers can be funny, but it's mostly a disappointment.

>>50673636

It depends on what came before.

We know there was some kind of massive crises that caused people to change over to the rulership of the Sybil system. And we can see all sorts of signs of ruined cities out past the one they live in.

Something apocalyptic happened, and it scared people so bad that they were willing to hand over control to the computers just to feel safe again.

We don't know a lot about what that point in time is like, but it must have been pretty fucked. Psycho-Pass society talks about the rest of the world, that doesn't have the Sybil system, like they are third-world barbarians clinging to what technology they have. Which probably isn't entirely true, but its still how they perceive the world.

>>50673145
>I don't play Titanfall
So I guess they didn't tell you about reading posts, huh?

>>50677934
It's actually demonstrated in episode 2 and the movie that, as far as society knows, the Sybil System is just a really advanced computer system. They still think that everything is run by humans. And the movie showed the outside world (or at least Cambodia) really is a war-torn hellhole with everybody using advanced tech, kinda like GitS in that regard.

>>50678601

Its unclear exactly how much society knows about the Sybil system. They obviously don't know its full of brains, and they know it has a huuuuge impact on their lives (monitors and prevents crime using the psycho pass system, evaluates people to put them on career paths, it even seems to play a role in their diet and medication and food production) but people don't seem to really think about just how much power the Sybil system has until someone slaps them in the face with it. I'm not sure if that's because they honestly think humans are still running the show somewhere, or because a lot of Sybil's influence is 'off screen' to most people so it just never occurs to them just how much the machines are really running.

Like, do they realize that the machines that guard their borders and the machines that grow their crops and the machines that run their cities are all tied into the same computer system that controls it all? Or do they just write it off as 'computers' and presume that humans are still involved at some level of the process without seeing the monopoly around them?

Which sounds really sinister, and honestly in many ways it is, and yet for the vast majority of people like under Sybil doesn't seem all that bad. Sybil is kind of amoral, and is definitely an ends justify the means personality, but does seem malevolent. Its still programmed to seek the peace and safety of its citizens.

>>50643175
>It's a railgun
>In space
>That shoots scramjet-shaped slugs
>With a barrel that's filled with rocket fuel, oxidizer, and cryogenic neon before each shot
The railgun accelerates the slug. The heat of the friction of the slug ignites the fuel, which provides thrust through the scramjet profile of the slug. The expanding neon behind the slug increases pressure behind it like a conventional bullet.

It's basically a Death Star style planet killer, except it's a size that could be reasonably built today, and it has effectively unlimited range (as long as you're willing to wait) because there's no beam to diffuse.

>>50678845

You're going to have to sell me on this being a planet killer weapon. It would probably suck to get hit by, but I'm not seeing anything here that implies its a relativistic weapon.

>>50678722
>Like, do they realize that the machines that guard their borders and the machines that grow their crops and the machines that run their cities are all tied into the same computer system that controls it all? Or do they just write it off as 'computers' and presume that humans are still involved at some level of the process without seeing the monopoly around them?
Most likely. I mean, most people don't really think about who grows the crops or who fixes the sewers, so a lot of the people are probably unaware or don't care that Sibyl runs everything. And those that do form the not-insignificant minority that the lesbian inspector came from, as well as the ones that aided in Makishima's plan.

And 'the end justifies the means' really is the conclusion that Tsunemori comes to, to judge the system based on what it has done and not on who it is. That it has managed to create peace and prosperity so effective that most people don't even realize a brutal murder when it's happening right in front of them.

>>50678907
>That it has managed to create peace and prosperity so effective that most people don't even realize a brutal murder when it's happening right in front of them.

And its constantly improving. Criminally Asymptomatic individuals can cause chaos, but every one that they catch and study means that particularly exception case gets closed forever, and the number of future exceptions gets pruned. Eventually, it will become so rare as to be functionally impossible.

>>50655033
Why does it need a CO2 canister and an air pump?

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>>50674116
>tfw no one has ever made a gas piston autorevolver
I guess I'll just have to do it myself, then.

>>50679428
Problem with that design is a lot of gas pressure is being lost between the cylinder and forcing cone, so you wouldn't be able to generate enough force to cock the hammer.
Remember, the hammer on a revolver also has to index the cylinder and reset the trigger, there's a lot of force required to manipulate it.

Now, let's say you use a system like on the Nagant revolver, where the cylinder moves forward during the trigger pull in order to form a gas seal, even then you might not be able to generate enough pressure, considering the hammer will require even more force to manipulate
Using a higher pressure cartridge requires a heavier cylinder, you could put fewer chambers in it to reduce weight, but then what's the benefit?
Sometimes in the world of guns, when you ask "why hasn't someone done this?" The answer's usually because they can't, and if they could, it would be for no benefit.

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>>50680535
>Now, let's say you use a system like on the Nagant revolver
Which should be standard in all revolvers today but for some reason isn't.

>>50681324
Have you ever fired a Nagant? The double action trigger pull is like 60 pounds because of all the work the trigger has to do, and there's barely any benefit, besides the fact that you can suppress it, but people didn't start doing that until 50+ years after the thing was made

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>>50682006
that's because it's an old design that can surely be improved, other than that my only advice is don't be a little bitch.

>>50677934
>>50678601
>>50678722
>>50678907
>>50678957
guess it comes down to a difference between morality systems, not to mention the Psycho-Pass system itself and most of the decisions and rules surrounding it still make no sense even with what explanations the series tries to give it(especially the Dominator's two lethal modes, both of which are nonsensical amounts of overkill, especially if I'm remembering properly the gun's stun mode is more than effective enough to take down targets, pretty much the only time the Dominator's lethal modes were of any actual benefit were the couple of times it's destroy mode was used to take down robots), partially cause of how little resistance or questioning of the system there is in-universe(which is absolutely ridiculous when you have a system that will call for your death for even the slightest reasons)

>>50682559

The thing is, if the dominator unlocks a lethal mode? There isn't any POINT in taking the subject alive. Their trial has already been held. Sybil is the judge and jury, you are just the executioner. The sentence is death, your job is to carry it out.

If the sentence wasn't death, the gun wouldn't have unlocked lethal.

As for why the gun is such overkill... dunno. Maybe Sybil just doesn't want there to be any ambiguity about whether or not the target has survived behind shot.

>>50682749
>Their trial has already been held. Sybil is the judge and jury, you are just the executioner. The sentence is death, your job is to carry it out.
I'll admit that is the part I find stupid(not to mention how easy it is for the system to judge death on someone, clearly a major flaw as S2 E4 showed considering it resulted in not only friendly fire but the deaths of a bunch of otherwise innocent people)

>>50683071
>innocent
Their crime coefficients were over 300, anon. Innocent people don't have such clouded hues.

>>50683071
The writing in S2 is pretty bad, if I recall the writing team changed for some reason. But I don't really understand what is supposed to be stupid about the premise of the show. The idea of the Psycho-Pass is pretty much just a statistical analysis on a person's brainscan, which I honestly like even better than Minority Report's version of criminal "future-sense".

In the game I'm in right now, repeaters are high tech. The setting's Mauser-analog is basically a game breaker.

>>50685002
Why the hell did they think it was appropriate to use fucking fiberglass for the sabot of the flechette round with that device to strip it away when it leaves the barrel.
Was it because regular plastic would've been absolutely obliterated on firing?

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>>50685098
To be honest, I'm surprised they're still trying to make flechette rounds viable. I assume there's a lot of problems with it.

>>50667672
it would create a small detonation perpendicular to the area of travel which would include parallel to the path at it's ends(recoil, if minor)

>>50682559
You have to remember that the Sibyl System's been around for 70-ish years by the time of the show. At least two generations have grown up under the watchful eye of the MWSPB, aided by the unfaltering judgment of the Sibyl System.

>which is absolutely ridiculous when you have a system that will call for your death for even the slightest reasons
First episode was about a guy who kept staving off psychological treatment for weeks despite the System continuously advising him so, before he just ran off into the un-monitored slums made up of people escaping from the System. It was only once he became a clear danger to people around him that the System called for his execution.

>>50686549
>First episode was about a guy who kept staving off psychological treatment for weeks despite the System continuously advising him so, before he just ran off into the un-monitored slums made up of people escaping from the System. It was only once he became a clear danger to people around him that the System called for his execution.

This. The second season of the show was handled by different, less subtle writers who were not up to the challenge of making Psycho Pass's society simultaneously dystopian yet undeniably "good enough". The whole point is that, while its not a perfect system, its the best one anyone can think of and all the known alternatives are worse.

Season 2 fucked that up by diving headfirst into "But the system is shadey and eeeeeeevil you guys" without actually offering a valid rebuttal to the ending of the first season. They steer too much into traditional dumb dystopias instead of the smart dystopia from the first season.

Better to skip directly to the movie and ignore the second season entirely.

>>50673636
I actually found the premise disturbingly plausible. Never underestimate the capacity of people to submit themselves to terrible, terrible political systems given the right rhetoric and a little push from stressful circumstances. Look at all the disastrous fascist and communist regimes that have been around just within living memory.

Hell, I even remember reading an interview awhile back with the leader of the US Transhumanist party where he literally advocated in all seriousness for pretty much precisely the Sybil System: A machine to handle much of the higher-level planning in society, and even matters of criminal justice, including using pattern analysis to predict criminal behavior on an individual level. Granted, that's a super fringe movement, but as society grows ever more dependent on and trusting of technology, I could certainly see it catching on given the right political climate and a sufficiently

I don't AGREE with the system in the slightest, and I think the attempts presented in the show to justify it fall flat. But at the same time, it does seem very plausible as a direction society could hypothetically take simply on the basis of human nature as we know it, and the justifications given seem like they'd be good enough to persuade a critical mass of the general population.

>>50683071
Copy pasting here but:
The investigators and enforcers on their own do not have control of their weapons, and the weapons will not fire or even go to a lethal setting if the target is not at a high enough stress level to be considered a threat. On the other hand, if the target is at a high stress level, the network/government/sybil will sentence them to death immediately and the guns will go to lethal mode (that turns people into paste). The investigators and enforcers have no control over what sentence sybil dictates and are little more than glorified drones carrying lethal weapons.
Why does this mean they can't use real guns?
Because the entire system is built around the concept of control. Sybil controls the populace and keeps them at a very low level of stress by taking away any concept of personal control, the investigators do not decide to kill criminals, Sybil decides. This detachment from the killing process allows investigators to kill what we would consider innocent people without raising the stress level (they aren't killing anyone, Sybil is) and the dominator gun plays into this. It is ludicrously powerful for what it is used for, and is designed so that there is no chance of the target surviving a single shot, further enforcing the concept that Sybil is a perfect system that makes mistakes. If someone is to die, they die, no wounding shots, no slow accidental bleed outs, no mistakes. Sybil says you die, and you die, Sybil says you live and you live. To arm investigators or enforcers with real guns would allow a crack in Sybils system of control, it would allow the possibility of someone knowing better than the system, it would allow mistakes and undermine the system that the population has surrendered control to.

>>50643447

That is tight as fuck.

>>50659112
Well, I'd hate to reply to autism, but gravity generators are fairly plausible. Gravity is a function of mass, and mass increases with velocity (theory of relativity, eat your heart our.) The faster an object is traveling, the more gravitational force it exerts on all other objects. So, take a ball bearing. Send it hurling down a maglev track in circles at relativistic velocity, and then slap the whole mess to the underside of your floorboards. Wham, grav plating. It's simple. Not easy, mind you, the engineering that would have to go into that is a mindfuck, but it is simple.

>>50683071
Season 2? What are you talking about. Psyco-pass was a one season standalone series. It is joining the pile with aldnoha, of shows who I deny have any further seasons.

>>50655033
>fifty billion sight hoods/ears
>no front post
but why

>>50684590
This. We're talking about enforcers, here. The ones on Tsunemori's crew were implied to be fairly chill as enforcers go. Meanwhile most of the enforcers who got "friendly fired" were the ones who carried out the sanctions in the barricade incident. They were probably cloudy as fuck. Their inspectors, meanwhile, got a face full of good old-fashioned lead.

Anyway, Sybil is definitely writer's convenience, and doesn't really hold up to much scrutiny (although I enjoyed how in both seasons data volume and processing speeds were actually plot points). But I think it works in terms of giving the writers a backdrop for interesting character stories. It's like the dilemma of the soldier with unstable superiors taken to its logical extreme.

>>50674129

Oooooo-

>>50684761
>literally no barrel
i mean yeah it'll be quiet but you'll have to be right next to someone to gat them

>>50688699
Are you implying that S1 of Aldnoah was somehow not a ball of turds, or was S2 really just that much worse?

Seriously, the climactic final confrontation amid crashed mechs at the end of S1 just made me laugh myself silly. How could they have topped that?

>>50689068
Oh, I wasn't the bigest fan of the mech sections. I did like the actually complicated social situations generated by the fudal setting. Fuck, if they rewrote the mechs to all be Magic knights, and the whole setting to some fantasy realm I would have been just as down for the story.

The finale was a rare example of something I enjoy in stories. That moment when conflicted loyalties lead to everybody dying, while not really being able to say anyone was really at fault. A fairly effective moment for me, which effectively ended the story... and then season 2.
>Everybody gets better.
>Princess is now literally held in a castle.
>Hero gets magic space royalty Jesus powers.
>In the end magical friendship saves the day.

One of those times reading the wikipidia spoilers saved me.

>>50685224
Tons. The principal issue is that of mass. Flechettes will deflect off of damn near anything. Cloth, leaves, even raindrops will have an effect on accuracy and range. They won't drop a man in 1 shot, either. Very inefficient. One shot to the gut might kill, but it's not instant.

>>50691770

What a strange gun anon.
Sounds like something richochets in a can when it fires.

>>50655355
aww fuck yes!

>>50689163
Wow, that is special. I retract my disbelief.

And with you on the mechs. I liked the angle they were going with initially, kids using high school science to defeat superior but arrogantly designed tech. But then they fucked up the science one too many times, and the last couple enemy mechs were just boring. Really disappointing considering I only stumbled across it while trolling Netflix for big stompy robots.

Although I did really enjoy the landing castles. Starship, ground base, and WMD all in one stylish package. Might just steal them next time I run a space opera game.