Warhammer 40,000 general

1st dark eldar

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Nth for Snakegirl Sniper squads WIP.

How do you fix the Tzeentch Discipline?

As I see it, Boon of Mutation has to go, Siphon Magic needs reworked to not be a dead draw on Aspiring Sorcerers, and Breath of Chaos needs buffed slightly.

>>50636092
would an inquisitor redact me for watching snakegirl movies late night in my hab all alone?

first for alpha legion made the actual first reply in the thread

>>50636109
>Siphon Magic needs reworked to not be a dead draw on Aspiring Sorcerers
This depends on whether or not the dice generated disappear at the end of each magic phase or when they are used.

>>50636119
you'd be ok if you were studying their movement in order to kill them more efficiently

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shameless repost from the last one

so you know this "stu" guy in the decurion explanation texts? let me be your stu and help me organise my collection into an army i could field.

i am playing them as black legion and would love to play the black legion speartip, as it almost fits perfectly. this list does not have to be the best minmaxed powerhouse there is, but i like to benefit from the new rules.

i have painted so far:
1x chaos sorcerer (levitating, can be played with jump pack)
15x CSM, melee, 2x melta, sarge with fist and combimelta.
5x raptors, 2x melta, sarge with meltabombs
5x havocs, 4x autocannon
5x terminators, 5x combi-plasma, 2x fist, 2x mace, sarge with axe
2x 20 cultists, 2x flamer
1x kharybdis assault claw drop pod (the 20 man forgeworld drop pod)

my proposed list:

primary detachment: black legion speartip:
core: black legion warband (743)
- ?x chaos lord
- 5x chaos terminators
- 15x CSM, khorne, icon of wrath, 2x melta, 2x CCW, sarge with combimelta
- ?x CSM or chosen
- 5x raptors, 2x melta, sarge with combimelta
- 5x havocs, 4x autocannon
auxiliary: (?)

combined arms detachment: (600pt)
- 1x chaos sorcerer, mastery 3, jump pack, spell familiar
- 20 chaos cultists, 2x flamer
- 20 chaos cultists, 2x flamer
- kharybdis assault claw

so without any special gear this would be at 1343 points, but i still miss the chaos lord, one unit of CSM or chosen and an auxiliary choice. this is where you come in.

Here is a shitty picture of the model i use as my assault claw, the portal vortex

questions will follow

>>50636109
>Breath of Chaos
A unit hit with a Breath of Chaos must pass a leadership test on three dice. It passed nothing happens, if failed a model in the unit becomes a Chaos Spawn.

I don't know what the spell does actually.

>>50636154
Warp Charge disappears at the end of the psychic phase. There's nothing in Siphon Magic to imply otherwise.

Even if it didn't, "cast this WC1 blessing in order to maybe cast a different WC1 spell next turn" if still a shitty power to generate.

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>>50636161
because there are many, i will give numbers to my questions, so there is not so much confusion. any help would be greatly appreciated.

questions:
1 - how would you play the chaos lord? i was thinking about a cheap one with terminator armor so i could use the speartip special rule and the termi squad would arrive turn one. together with the assault claw (bearing the 15 csm) that would be two big threats on my first turn.
2 - what would you take for the second mandatory slot in the warband? five cheap CSM to hold objectives?
3 - would you expand the 15 CSM inside the assault claw to 20? with the whole black legion nonsense, khorne and the icon they have: VotlW, hatred, fear, crusader, rage, counterstrike, reroll charge distance and furious charge for 15 points per model. besides i really like the idea of a 20man marine unit. legion style
4 - what kind of auxiliary would you take? i was thinking about just a small spawn unit. cheap harassment
5 - is the 4++ or 5++ save worth its points on the sorcerer?
6 - mark of tzeentch on the termi squad? 5 points for half a storm shield (4++) seems kinda worth it. with it being five models they dont have to be a suicide unit

another shitty picture to grab your attention

>>50636156
Uhh yea, studying their.. movements... Let's go with that one.

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>Raptors Anon is still unironically shitting up threads with his retarded fetishes, TACTIKOOL models and shitty fluffrape
Never change my man.

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ORKS

1. An Initiative increase across the board. Boyz are now I3, Nobz are now I4, and Warbosses are now I5.

2. Army-wide Furious Charge.

3. A Ballistic Skill increase across the board. Boyz are now BS3, Nobz are now BS4, and Warbosses are now BS5.

4. Choppas are now AP4. Big Choppas are now AP3.

5. A Toughness increase across the board. Boyz are now T4, Nobz are now T5, and Warbosses are now T6.

6. A Leadership increase across the board. Boyz are now LD8, Nobz are now LD9, and Warbosses are now LD10.

7. Army-wide Feel No Pain 6+. This can be improved with Wargear and Painboyz up to a maximum of 4+.

8. Painboyz and Mekboyz are Elite choices. You may take up to 3 of each type as a single Elites choice, and you may distribute them as Independent Characters.

9. Mekboyz now have access to Kustom Force Fields. A Kustom Force Field grants a 4+ Cover Save to all models completely within 18 inches, including vehicles.

10. A Waaaaagh may be called once per game, and grants all Orks in your army Fearless for that turn. Calling a Waaaaagh also allows all Orks in your army the ability to reroll their Charge distance for that turn.

11. Characters now have access to non-Mega Armour wargear that grants a 2+ armour save, 1 per army.

12. Characters now have access to non-Mega Armour wargear that grants a 3+ invulnerable save, 1 per army.

>>50636166
Warp Charge 2, Template, AP2, wounds a 4+ and glances on a 4+.

It's effect just isn't really commensurate with a
WC2. Of the powers I listed, it's easily the least in need of improvement, but it's very, very often inferior to the Pyromancy Primaris that you could generate automatically instead if you wanted to (and weren't locked into Tzeentch).

>>50636203
>yfw he glued dozens of ammo pouches to his Dreadnoughts.

>>50636205
Is this a hilarious new meme?? Is this the evolution of >I2?

Hey /TTS/ anon, almost all the army mods in the workshop are broken, the links to the models don't work anymore how the fuck is anyone supposed to play 40k if everything is broken?

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>>50636216
> mfw he actually does.

>>50636221
>this shitty black tau army

kill yourself my man

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>>50636203
At least I have a new different brand of stuff to shit up threads with. I'm now painting Custodians in ~NOT~ gold. Because brass custodians have better specularity than actual gold custodians.

>>50636182
>Warp Charge disappears at the end of the psychic phase.
check the wording specifically the last sentence. It mentions nothing of removeing left over dice, phase or turn.

>Siphon Magicis a blessing that targets the Psyker. For the rest of the phase, each time a friendly model successfully manifests a psychic power within 18" of them, place a dice next to this model. Any dice accrued in this manner can be used by the Psyker as bonus Warp Charge points.

>if still a shitty power to generate.
Without a doubt, however if they stay over you could have enough WC after one to not to have to throw more dice for force for example.

>>50636225
>ruining models unironically

Was going to ask in the WH40K RPG thread but it got archived:

Reading some fluff about the Black Templars, it says they are a fleet-based chapter, roaming the stars in a massive base fleet and only setting up small (by 40k standards) chapter keeps on conquered worlds.

My question is, how is this possible when an entire chapter is only 1000 (or so) Space Marines? Do space marines crew these fleets, or are they simply passengers with a massive retinue of normal helper-humans? What about the chapter keeps? Are they manned by true-blue Black Templars, or more helpers? Wouldn't leaving even just one Marine per fortress prevent hundreds of Black Templars from doing their most important work, namely, murdering things for the Emperor?

A modern aircraft carrier already needs several chapters worth of crew just by itself. So how can the Black Templars operate a fleet?

>>50636190
1- Sounds okay.
2- Probably.
3- Something seems off on your unit cost there. 15 PPM for the Mark of Khorne, plus ~1.7 PPM for the Icon.
4- Spawn are the cheap go to, although you do have the Cultists necessary for a Lost and the Damned.
5- Only if you plan on sticking him in CC a lot. I generally go without to save costs.
6- It adds up. If you have the spare points at the end, go for it. It does limit what you can do with the Lord.

I'd use the Portal as a Dreadclaw for a 10 man CSM squad and throw the 40 cultists in a Lost and the Damned formation instead. Kharybdis ain't worth it for a regular CSM squad. Not that a Kharybdis will ever really be worth it.

>>50636281
BTs had the balls to say fuck the Codex we're doing what we like. At least they used to but their fluff is all over the place with retcons galore.

>>50636281
Black Templars have way more than 1000 Space Marines.

But keep that shit quiet, no ones supposed to know.

>>50636248
You couldn't be any more wrong. This is beyond KA tier shit.

>>50636092

He really should stick to his Raptors. The Leviathan looks so much more impressive than the monstergirl project.

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Usable whilst embarked in a chaos rhino, yes or no?

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>>50636278
Someone post his Raptor Marines.

>>50636304
>the bearer and his unit
No because they aren't on the table.

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Post your armies, /40kg/.
(fucked up something in the original post)
Prove to random strangers that you play and don't just come into the thread to whine.

I can't find the picture of my GKs...

>>50636225
Maybe I'm just an idiot, but what possible purpose would a Dreadnought have for pouches that carry ammo that it wouldn't be able to logically open or even get to. It's stubby little arms just don't move like that.

>>50636249
Ah, I see. So it doesn't ACTUALLY generate Warp Charge, just dice that can be used as Warp Charge. Still, they would fall off at the start of your next psychic phase when the Blessing expires.

Can't wait for Christmas to get my leviathan.

Should I take two melee weapons, or melee weapon + cyclonic melta?

>>50636322
>>>50636221
>>this shitty black tau army
>kill yourself my man
>>50636232

>>50636324
I'm guessing it's more for the ground troops to resupply? I dunno.

>>50636307
He's an insufferable attentionwhore who actually counts the (you)s he gets across threads. Just ignore him.

>>50636156
i assure you inquisitor, i was very closely studying their movement!!!

>>50636322
>7.8MB
>Hosted on is.4chan instead of i.4cdn
That shit is NEVER gonna load, holy fuck. My bad. I noticed that the images/webms on is.4chan are what take forever to load across the entire site.

>>50636334
Where's your army, my man?

>>50636334
Doesn't even look that bad. What are you going on about?

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Hello I'm new to the game and I'm broke as fuck. I've recently stumbled upon paper hammer and am looking for a cheaper alternative. Does anyone know a good source for the printable templates? Preferably for an ork army
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLx0PL3eqE8 In this video this guy describes what im talking about

>>50636324
His fleshy IED clearers can grab ammo off him. It turns him into both a walking icon of the Emperor's wrath given form AND a handy resupply point.

>>50636304
I would go with "no." See >>50636310

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>>50636307
I never intended to make my scouts look like Spartans. I fucking hate halo and all of it's childish fans, the resemblance with my scouts is purely a coincedence that makes me infuriated. At least the more modern helmets from Pig-iron resemble the DOOMGUY helmet instead of the odst helmets.

>>50636297
KA?...

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>>50636322
Now that I think about it, I don't actually have a picture of my entire army.. Although this is most of it minus 3 HQs and a Furioso

>>50636282
thank you for your answer
3- i forgot to include the points for the icon. i know that the 15-20 CSM inside the assault claw are the weakest point of my list, but it is the reason i started this army. i wanted a chaos army without any boxy vehicles and loved the idea of a big unit of CSM being "summoned" my my portal-vortex-assault-claw-thing
4- the lost and damned formation seems nice, but i like my 20man cultist mobs. besides i need a combined detachment to run the dreadclaw

to the guy in the last thread who said i cant use my portal vortex as a dreadclaw because of its footprint: i only play this army in my gaming club and everyone there is more than fine with it.

>>50636364
Please, for the love of god, save up some money for some terrain and a mat.

>>50636322
Oh shit. Been a while TronAnon.
>literally no pics on this pos laptop
>army at home and I won't be back for another week
I-I umm, I j-just wanted to say hi, I guess...

>>50636364
I wish I knew where you lived in real life, I would build you some terrain because you desperately need it

>>50636364
reclaiming lego STC with the mechanicum i see

>>50636363
ahahahaHAHAHAHA

THIS HALO SHIT

AND THEN HE COVERS THE MODEL IN TIN FOIL SO YOU CAN'T SEE IT

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>>50636408
Kek, here's your (you), and a picture to go with it.

>>50636363
Yeah I know you hate it, I can still only see Spartans though dude.

Hope your life's a bit better than the last time I talked to you.

>>50636363
Just a little bit of black trim/gun casings would go a long way on those figures.

>>50636419
stop uploading raw phone cam pics, resize them so they're not a billion megs

THAT SAID

this pic doesn't even trigger me, the paint app isn't bad, overall it's looking solid, you shelled out for a nice base too


BUT

THAT

BACKGROUND

>>50636363

The lad who makes an army of monster and catgirls and gives ammo pouches to a dreadnought is calling other people childish?

>>50636330
>Still, they would fall off at the start of your next psychic phase when the Blessing expires
And your reasoning is? The blessing is to create the dice and ends in the psychic phase. What to do with the dice is completely separate part and has no mention of when you must use them.

I'm not standing behind this by the way, the rules just dont seem clear to me.

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>>50636322
My red corsairs

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Noob question:

A Chaos Chosen has two attacks on his profile. If I equip one with a flamer (Assault 1) do I get to drop two flame templates? If not what happens to his other attack? He can't use a flamer and then a bolt pistol, right?

Why is there a Maulerfiend in the GW's MC section?

>>50636462
i really like them. what are you using the scouts for?

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>>50636419
>that shitty job on the boots
>tassets not glued in the right place

>>50636419
>The fucking chips lined up in the background
You're either a genius or deeply, deeply troubled.

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>>50636462
Let me resize these real quick

>>50636465

Attacks on his profile are his base attacks that he gets in close combat regardless of equipment.

He gets an ADDITIONAL attack if he has pistol+ccw. The flamer is unrelated to his attacks characteristic, and the number of times it can shoot is said on its profile(1). Also he can swap his bolter for the flamer iirc, so he can keep the pistol+ccw bonus while also having the flamer.

>>50636465
Read the rulebook.

>>50636436
Yea, there's a few things I want to do to finish up my Custodes. I need to finish up his parchment, as well as getting highlights on all of his filigree+staff. I'm thinking of making his filigree into silver so it adds more contrast. Overall I'm happy with the striking style that comes from heavy washes with brass layering.

>>50636483
They're probably not in the right place because I never assemble models using instruction manuals. I liked having them on the thighs to serve as extra armour on the waist, and they break up the sleek lines of the model on it's legs.

>>50636486
They're actually a poster at the geedubs. The chips aren't real.

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>>50636322
Can we post abandoned armies as well?

>>50636478
Actual scouts, I switch between using chaos and loyalist books

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>>50636387
Hey, dude!

>>50636521
Damn, anon. Those are nice. The edge highlights are miles better than mine. Let's hope GW wants to give us some love in 8th.

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are you guys ready for Orksmas?

>>50636527

Are you planning on use a legion's rules for them? Is taking Huron worthwhile?

>>50636539
Thanks, the trick to clean edge highliting is going back to thinning the edges with the basecoat color again, very easy and effective, but will obviously double the amount of time needed

working on a list for less competitive play against a buddies space wolves

Black legion speartip

Core
Hounds of abbadon

Chaos lord
>khorne, votlw
>juggernaut
>axe of blind fury
>sigil of corruption

20 chaos marines
>khorne votlw
>icon of wrath
>2 melta guns
>power axe
>melta bomb
>combi melta

10 khorne berserkers
>votlw
>power fist
>rhino

4 bikes
>khorne, votlw
>2 melta

5 raptors
>khorne, votlw
>2 melta
>melta bombs

5 raptors
>khorne, votlw
>2 melta
>melta bombs

auxillary
Helldrake terror pack

2 helldrakes

Total list is 1500, im thinking it will work well with the t1 deep striking suicide raptor units, the jugger lord and the crusading, once per game run then charge, re rolling charge range marine blob.

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>>50636558
Absolutely. My girlfriend is getting an Eldar army for christmas, my bro is getting Imperial Guard, and my buddy is getting a Leviathan. It sure feels great being santa for someone in this hobby, even if it means spending my birthday money to do so.

I just wish I had a job so I could do more..

>>50636376
Taking a Dreadclaw as a Dedicated Transport for a ten-man CSM unit instead of a 15 man unit with a Kharybdis frees up a ton of points, and the unit isn't that much smaller. A fifteen man unit will also have the issue that it will massively overkill a great many of the units you will throw it at, without significantly improving your odds against those units that a 10-man unit couldn't handle. Hell, you might even be able to squeeze in a second Dreadclaw CSM squad for your second "troop" choice.

I legitimately don't understand why you people ask for list feedback if you're just going to say "naw, I like my list" whenever someone actually takes the time to post a response.

>>50636452
The whole thing is a vague grey area, but your interpretation is extremely counter-intuitive. I mean, I'd be game for arguing it if it actually did something, but the end result is still flaming dog-shit.

>>50636477
Because some intern saw it while updating the webstore and thought "if the Tau Riptide and the Eldar Wraith[nouns] count as creatures, surely this biomechanical fusion of daemon and machine is a monster as well."

>>50636594

>raptors anon has a girlfriend
what

>>50636612
girl friends are easier to get than gw models

>>50636322

all my other shit is in the basement so here is my 1k pt Tournament Army.

(Their names are Fred, Red, Bread, Ed, Dead (Dead has no head), Moe, Larry, and Curly)

>>50636594
You paint a tiny area with 7 colours but don't take the time to properly file and scrape away your mould-lines?

>>50636559
I'm interested in the alpha legion or death guard rules, thoughI'm not a fan of the nurgle aesthetics.

Very few special characters are worthwhile depending on how competitive you want to go, I rarely use Huron nowadays unfortunately

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>>50636617
fuck

>>50636570
Yeah, I started doing that on the Scourges I'm working on.

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>>50636322

Don't have the whole army in an image but here's my Lord from 2007.

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>>50636322

>leave to LGS to take picture of sisters and hang out
>leave army case on chair

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>>50636385
>love of god

>>50636599
>but your interpretation is extremely counter-intuitive.
Not in my opinion. If they wanted it to be just during the 1 psychic why bother with the dice? why not just say they harness a WC? That would make them disappear and there would be no confusion.

>>50636346
>spray paint tau black
>"line" with crayola crayons
>job "well" done

>>50636662
Post your obviously large and well painted army then.

>>50636527
>>50636559
In your experience how much would your averga 40k player would if I made a CSM/DA mix Fallen Angel (or Red Corsairs or BOTH) army and used it with Legion rules suiting my current mood?

>>50636631
>GTX 750 Ti

Do you even game?

>>50636345
>mfw it's loading faster for me than the morons posting 2MB and 4MB jpgs in the WIP general

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kit bashed Carcharodon...yay or nay?

>>50636684
Literally no one will care as long as you make it look nice and not confusing

>>50636642

>Silent Night
Steel Yourselves, Brothers. They are upon us!
>Holy Night
Death to the false emperor!
>All is calm
*Bolter fire*
>All is bright
*Predator explodes*
>Round yon virgin
*Chainsword reving*
>Mother and child
*Death Screams from bike impact*
>Holy infant so tender and mild
Embrace the touch of Nurgle!
>Sleep in heavenly peace
Onward My Brothers
>Sleep in heavenly peace
To Glory! FOR THE EMPEROR!

>>50636690
>I spent all my money on helbrutes.

Not really. I built this rig in '08 and need to just do a new build but I don't have the money. The 750 was cheep and not a downgrade, so I got it when my old card shit itself and died a few years back.

>>50636662
They're edge highlighted with most of the lenses and all of the gyros painted. The purely black stuff is less than a month old so I haven't gotten to do much aside from get it ready for immediate play. But yeah, show me your awesomely painted army, then.

>>50636700
Really? I always have issues loading stuff from is.4chan, but i.4cdn loads instantly.

>>50636701

What's the other arm doing?

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>>50636631

>the same monopose helbrute over and over agian

>>50636351
Just play tabletop simulator if you can't get the actual models.

>>50636714
>I spent all my money on helbrutes.

See, they laugh at you at first, but then you drop a Helfist Murderpack in their face.

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>>50636394
Miami, Florida brofam. Help a nigga out

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>In older versions of the fluff, if you hand an Ork a pipe and convince him it's a gun, it WILL shoot bullets.
wtf i love Orks now

>>50636725

They are $6 on ebay and 115 ea with a heavy flamer. Fun/Stupid 1k army for 45$

>>50636737
Actually no one laughed when they first came out. The TO facepalmed and everyone else was terrified because they had no idea how to deal with that many helbrutes at 1k pts :^)

Won Tourny and Best Sportsman that week somehow.

>>50636753
I'm in Toronto senpai, if I'm ever down at a gaming club by you I'll build some stuff

>>50636766
I have one such Helbrute. I wonder how hard it would be to cut it up a little and make it stand straight, maybe shift the arms around a little and give it a different head.

>>50636781
They are basicly two part shells, so shifting the pose is a pain but possible if you have the greenstuff and time. Head is easy, it's a flat plate that goes inside the front shell. Just size a helmet and mount it with greenstuff.

>>50636766

>$6

I might grab one to convert into a non-daemon NL spawn for my Murder Talon.

>>50636827

Most of the sellers had them for 10-15 but I found one that was selling them for 8 and they were having a sale.

>>50636845
>>50636827
I just checked there's a seller in the UK moving a lot for cheap

>>50636804
Yeah, thankfully I never glued him so I just took him apart.

This could be fun.

>>50636845

Still, it's a big, cheap, scary body, which is exactly what I want.

>>50636859

Hrm. Might be a problem for Burgerland, but I'll check it out, thanks.

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>>50636719
getting a krak grenade ready

>>50636758
Don't be a retard. The fluff has its limits.
>believing 1d4chan

>>50636758

It's more like if you hand him some spare
parts, he can cobble together something able to shoot bullets despite having no right to by the known laws of science.

>>50636322
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lol you think we will click that ??

For a starting emperors children army. For a CAD would it be better to take noise marines or regular chaos marines?

>>50636985
read the traitor's legion epub

>>50636985

Noise Marines. If you want to save points take Cultists.

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Yo!

Traitor Legions inspired me so much with the new World Eaters rules that I figured I'd make an 1850 army for them for 40k. (I already have them for 30k. Love me some 'Zerkers!)

As Gorefather is a relic, now, I figured I'd model one of my Angron models as a Daemon Prince, and fuck his shit up.

Not going hyper competitive here, but I want to win here and there and have some FUN with it. I think I did well for a theme, toom and before you ask, the Warpsmith is traveling with Kharn and a Zerker Squad.

Yay or nay?

>>50636662
Literally no one agrees with you dude. The army looks fine. Actually looks better than some of the shit posted here.

>>50637036
>>50636718
>>50636673

>alpha legion posting

>>50637041
>forcing a meme

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>>50637041
Is it this hard to admit you just have shit taste?

>>50636701
Helmet is perfect, but the fin is a bit much in my opinion.

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>>50637041
>STILL doesn't post large and well painted army

If I got 2 or 3 basiliks (s9 ap3 large blast barrage ordnsnce), is it better to take 2 or 3 devil dogs (blast melta) or a hellhound (s6 ap4 torrent flamer)?

>>50637048

The upcoming Carcharodons novel has fin-shaped antennas on helmets and really loads on the tattoos and shark mouths and stuff since the author used fan conversions as a reference instead of the more plain official artwork. It kind of annoys me.

>>50637084
What does the rest of your list look like? The Basilisks are decent anti-armor by themselves and a Hellhound absolutely rapes anything that would survive the Basilisks via cover saves, but the circumstances can vary based on what you're backing them up with. Just be wary of having no AP2.

>>50637084
Devil Dogs can cover your AP 2 needs. There's a formation out there to get some ignores cover artillery, maybe look into that for the basilisks.

>>50636732
the point of thepdfs is so i can scratchbuild them myself. I'm in this mostely for the building aspect. I want to make shit like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4RREC17u-A he made that all out of scratch.

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>>50637094
>post yfw Carcharadons get Space Wolves'd

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>>50636322
Not in pic: a chimera, and an unpainted chimera.

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>my lgs is liquid sting stock
>30% off
>40% for over 200
>$7.67 in my bank account
>mfw

>>50637028
Can Kharn take relics?

If so, I'd heavily consider giving him a Talisman of Burning Blood.

18" charges are fun.

>>50637102
>>50637117
The rest of army as of now is 2 squads of melta flamer vets Ina chimera with ccs.
Should I got for melta blasts then?

>>50637156
Not him but no.

>>50637156
no

>>50637156
Nope, none for him.

It'd be funny to give him Gorefather, though (since he already has Gorechild).

What's the most fun army?

>>50637028

The World Eaters rules make everything a berzerker, so normal CSM are berzerkers that trade 1 WS for costing 4 less points per model. Basically "fixed" berzerkers that don't suffer from being overcosted. You're running the formation though so it doesn't matter.

5 Maulerfiends is brutal. Are you going to do conversions to make them World Eaters/Khornate themed?

Can a fast vehicle that moves 12" fire a blast weapon?

>>50637190
Probably YMMV or opinions

You can have fun with any army that isn't Orks.

>>50637190

The one with the models you like most.

>>50637156

Kharn can't purchase relics, but he comes with one(Gorechild) automatically.

Also that list can add the Warpsmith to Kharn's squad to give him the benefit anyway.

>>50637190
The one that looks the coolest
>>50637198
I played green tide and had lots of fun.

>>50637196

Yes, it can fire two blast weapons in fact, because it is a Fast vehicle and so two weapons at 12" are not snap shots.

>>50637135
Only option left is to sell your body for plastic crack

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>>50637198
It's not fair.

Are there any pdfs of Traitor Legions, yet, or only epubs?

>>50637161
Are your Vets' weapons set in stone? What's the CCS rocking? Meltavets is a tried and true strategy so if you have two squads of them with at least two meltas per squad rolling around in Chimeras you should be more or less set. Basilisks as emergency anti-armor. If I were you I'd go with a Hellhound in that situation but I'm biased.

If you do go that route them look into Emperor's Blade and Emperor's Wrath depending on how you want to spec your army later if you want to grow it. The former is a godsend for MechVets since it lets them viably tote plasma without blowing themselves up, while the latter gives access to Ignore Cover Basilisks(!) if you take some more artillery and a CCS to keep them company.

>be world eaters
>give your daemon prince a plasma pistol
why aren't you doing this?

>>50637243
>pdfs

Download simple epub reader from chrome. You can disconnect it from chrome and it becomes just a program on your computer.

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>>50637233

He has a 2 Knights.

>>50637254
>20 points for the pistol-whip to end all pistol-whips
Just take a daemon weapon.

>>50637254
>implying I don't have WE DP in white armor with a bare arm and plasma pistol + chainaxe

>>50637193
I did it to try the formation, but, you are quite right. Fleet and the extra 3-inches to charging sounded fun. Maybe a CAD instead for ObSec? I heard that Khornate Chosen are also very good now.

And yeah. Figured I'd deck them out in hooks and shit, too. Make it look brutal.

>>50637132
i love how you made those valhalans looks good, i dont think i have ever seen them done justice

>>50637291

The Chaos Warband formation might be right up your alley. If you're willing to bring a dreadnought and a couple bikes/assault marines.

>>50637254
The new relic plasma pistol says it replaces a ranged weapon. DP's don't come with one, you can only give him a CC or additional wargear type of relic, sadly.

>>50637094
this the guy you're talkin about?

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327601-malchys-white-faces-carcharodon-hh-raven-guard-hh-nl/

I quite dig the tattoos and shark jaw motifs but I think fins would go a little too far. Very Polynesian.

>>50637309
I'd probably do Raptors, seeing as how I already have an unopened box when I was preparing (and let down by) Traitor's Hate. The Helbrute is bleh, okay, whatever.

Worried that this is just going to drive up the points again, though. I'll start doing math.

On a semi-related note, did Maulerfiends get the +2A buff that other dreads got from the FAQ/Errata?

>>50637135
Take out a loan, pawn something

>>50637342
dont do this for toys anon, please

>>50637135
Discounts come and go. If I hopped on every sale, I'd be on the streets. Only if it'd some rare item I've found somewhere for a reasonable price, will I bite the bullet and break into my savings or go over budget, but I'll make up for it later. Otherwise I'll buy from sales when I got the assets to do so.

>>50637311

It does? Too bad, I had a really funny mental picture of a huge daemon prince firing a pistol smaller than his pinky finger.

>>50637190
Not playing 40k yet, from looking through the rules of most armies and reading their Tactics page on 1d4chan Genestealer Cult looks hilariously fun to me. Too bad they are expensive and have a very high model count.

>>50637353
Just double-checked, and yeah, it's a no go. Sorry! It is a cool idea.

I would replace of his hands with the Plasma Forgefiend head, I think. Though that looks entirely too impressive for just a single short-rage plasma shot, I guess...

>>50637311

So buy the Burning Brand then replace THAT with the pistol!

>>50637369

>expensive
Not if you use guardsmen with an occasional genestealer head or claw mixed in.

>>50637379
Errrr, yeah, I guess that -might- work. So long as you want to meme that strongly.

I approve.

is there a mod for dawn of war soulstorm which adds grey knights as a playable race for the risk-campaign?

>>50637379
>>50637404
It won't, because he can only buy one relic. And before you say he only has one, GW's logic is as follows.
>He buys the Burning Brand
>He then cannot buy the pistol because he already has a relic

>>50637421
There's a Daemonhunters mod which adds Daemonhunters-era GK and then Ultimate Apocalypse which Wardinizes the faction. Are you play them in the campaign? Yes, but you'd have to mod them into it yourself and that's not worth the effort because that campaign is hot garbage.

>>50637132

Gotta love how the melta guys are squatting.

38000 years in the future, and slavs are virtually unchanged.

>>50637430
Curses, foiled again!

>>50637352

This is 30-40% though, which is unheard of.

I have money aside for a Sisters release, but that's not happening soon I might dip into that and support my Night Lords.

>>50637494
>a Sisters release
If it happens AT ALL it will be months down the line. Go for it, dude.

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>>50636045

Was GW selling Sentinels with the gene cult upgrade frame or was that a limited release deal?

>>50637512

Exactly my thoughts.

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>>50637543
I don't think they were.

Just grab one of the kits that has one. Particularly if you get the Russ it has way more than you'll need for that one tank. Otherwise you can pick the sprues up off ebay. A lot of guard players picked up Armoured Claw for a cheap Chimera+Squad and sell the upgrade sprues.

>>50637633

Yo is that top left helmet a blank skull-shaped mask!??!

I CAN MAKE THE ARMY OF TWO GUY

The shear number of idiot internet fanbois that have never played csm offering up dipshit opinions is hitting an all time high.

This is like the immediate after echos of the tau sixth ed codex when everyone thought it sucked for two days lol........

Oh and by the way, world eaters and iron warriors are about to stomp everyones shit in. (And I play Death Guard lol.)

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>>50637648
Nope, no helmets on that sprue. That's a dude with a genestealer forehead and a bandana mask.

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Tell us what you're working on /tg/

Pics of in progress appreciated.

>>50637672
I just want your lot to stop whining about how shit you are after this supplement. You got FLUFFY and decent crunchy.

>>50637751
>stop whining
are you new here?

>>50637672
WE sure. They can be stupidly fast now. But IW?

>>50637746
i hope you used grey primer and arent painting on unprimed models,cause if so, you are in for a bad time

>>50637732
Wonder if you can file the ridges down to get just bandana masked heads. Could work on something like Catachans.

>>50637746
Turning two halves of dark angels from the dark vengeance boxes into space wolves. 5 terminators are near done. I would appreciate any advice on sculpting pelts for them though.

>>50637772
Nah, just wishful thinking.

>>50637782
Tank and Monster Hunter Oblit troops are pretty sweet.

And everything has FNP 6+.

>>50637913
Sorry, just Tank Hunter.

>>50637913
oblits do not get MoN which is meh

question, are CSM daemon princes really ld10 in practice because they have veterans of the long war baked in?

>>50636495
Well done anon. Definitely captures the renegade look.

>>50637927
Yeah. It's a tradeoff for being more glass-cannon-y.

>>50637930
no
the boni of rules they always have, rather then buy are already included in the statline.

>>50637790
Yeah they're primed haha. I always have to double check cus my primer is so close.

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So do we have the formation rules for the battleforce sets yet?

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So, does anyone have any instructions on how to put the 40k Tzangors together with the double handed weapons that come with the kit and/or the instrument and/or other options? I want to put them together using the double handed weapons because they look awesome and maybe some of the other options.

>>50638065
They've been leaked since last night friend

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>>50636322

Closest thing I have is this shot of my Dread Mob, though I have tons more painted models, including 160 Boyz. Da Green Jaw Clankers don't have many victories to their name, but they have been a lot of fun.

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ARE THEY HOLLOW?!

>>50638065
Mechanicus is shit

>>50636205
I agree with all but 3, 9, 11, and 12
9 should be 12", as is told by the 5th edition codex.

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I should take an updated picture

>>50638112
Yep, and full of Necrons.

>>50637983
you're gonna have to point me in the right direction, the only place i see that mentions that specifically refers to bikes and their T bonus and not anything else.

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>>50637028 here!

Updated the Maelstrom of Gore to the Warband as per a kind anon's suggestion. Getting the points to fit was a pain but here we are!

Sorry for MS Paint additions, but the program doesn't have the new relics yet.

>>50638069
You actually have to pay 1 point for the autopistols

>>50638142
Angron does have 40k rules. You just have to take two Bloodthirsters alongside him, and he's like 500 points, but there's that.

>>50638142
Why do your Havocs not have any heavy weapons? This can't be intentional

>Warpsmith
>image is the DV Lord
It CAN'T be intentional.

>>50638111
from the thumbnail i though morkanaut and gorkanaut were brofisting

>>50636322
>Hey guys post your painted armies!
>post a black primed army with 1 line of color on each model

i guess that one way to paint an army for $25

>>50638125
i think anon runs his marines on suicide missions so soon every marine will be a dreadnought

>>50638142
I see these all the time, what outputs in this format? it's cool

>>50638220
Oh please don't get him started. This guy started out cool but he can get as bad as Raptors Anon.

>>50638185
Yeah, I know, but I figured this would be a fun compromise so I can try out Butcherhorde. Plus, I think the conversion will look pretty cool. Maybe he's having an off day after being banished and he's not at full strength. I dunno!

>>50638195
I'm using the Havocs as an extra squad of Tacticals because FUCK heavy weapons! We're running at the enemy and tearing them to shreds!

>>50637270
>He's Italian

>>50638142
>havocs with CCW and pistols
madness or genious, i cant tell

>>50637494
>30-40% is unheard of
Do you know about our lord and savoir China or Ebay?

>>50638226
No, it's shit. That list is awfully formatted, though it's not Anon's fault. If you still want to dick around with it then here.


In fact never mind it's in the OP.

>>50638226

It's the last link in the OP. Trying it out for the first time, myself, tonight. Certainly less broken that BattleScribe, but also has less stuff in it.

Does the CSM box come with BP+CCW arms, or just one for the champion?

>>50638246

Ebay is a joke 99% of the time now, and I don't have the aptitude to find the info needed for recasters

>>50638233
>I'm using the Havocs as an extra squad of Tacticals because FUCK heavy weapons! We're running at the enemy and tearing them to shreds!
Kek, godspeed my man. Although speaking from a pragmatic point you have a CAD in there, right? Better to declare the Havocs as CSM and give them ObSec, unless I'm missing something.

>>50638259
Enough for all.

>>50636333
2 Melee if you really want him to rape in melee. otherwise, Claw + Gun is my go to

>>50638235
Never break theme!

They threw those fucking autocannons down onto the bloody battlefield dirt and charged the enemy with reckless abandon like good Sons of Angron!

>>50638125
I actually like dreadnaughts and would like to run a full dread army sometime.

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>>50638199

Well those fists have been places....

>>50638271

Sweet, thanks.

People have any tips on painting white armour? I'm still quite new to miniature painting and want to paint my space marines white scars, I'm a bit worried they'll be boring if they're just white with a wash and drybrush (which is how I've painted miniatures up until now)

>>50638271
They have ObSec since they're part of the Warband formation in the Butcherhorde detachment.

At least...I think they do...

Any suggestions on an Epub reader? I've tried a few random apps and they all fail, and I've tried converting the legion book and it keeps getting errors and failing on multiple sites.

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If I want to rebase my finecast captain, what would be the best way to go about it? Cut the base out from under him or risk tearing him off?
Same thing for a guy who was glued down with plastic glue, rip or cut?

>>50638290
White should have a solid highlight.

>>50638290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWZvHhDt5mE

>>50638274
model them holding the autoncannon by the barrel about to bash someones brain out with it

>>50638309
cut would probably be better, and since you're rebasing just cut into the base to get him out

>>50638290
Prime white, wash, repeat. Highlight the shit out of it.

>>50638301
Ah shit yeah, I was confused when I saw that Dark Vengeance lord but on closer inspection he's the Warpsmith with the Warpack, so never mind. May you always roll 12" charges my dude.

>>50638318
>DC
>white

>>50638290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRR7W5-F15c
Praise Be

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>>50638283
anon...what are you doing to me

>>50638324
>He's doesn't know that different BA chapters have different schemes
kek

>>50638307
Adobe digital editions 4.5

I keep wondering if all the fags that have issues with epubs are on mobile or pc, because Ive never had any problem with any epub and I keep wondering why people have so much problems with the format, Im curious now.

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>>50638324
What he said... White Death Company? The fuck?

>>50638341
DC are always black, just with different colors on the X's.

>>50638322
YES!!!

>>50638324
No biggy man! Thanks! The extra distance the new stuff gives me should make this fucking radical!

>>50638324
>>50638351
>>50638353
You people really need to not talk about things you don't know about
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Angels_Encarmine

>>50638149
I'm talking about the two handed weapons that have nothing to do with 40k.

>>50638368
>literally who knockoff chapter that is literally stated to go against the grain
>an excuse

What is the difference between the Renegade Knight box and the Knight Warden? Would I be able to make a Renegade with the Warden?

>>50638368
>non-standard alabaster colored power-armour

Angels Encarmine are the exception, not the rule.

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>>50638382
>Clearly states that he's painting AE Death Company
>Autists get mad, and then proven wrong
Take it up with GW faggot

>>50638393
Renegade comes with a Chaos transfer sheet, Warden comes with a loyalist one with eagles and shit.

Literally the same box otherwise.

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>>50638351
>>50638353
>They don't know about that one chapter that has white death company and white sanguinary guard
I bet you also don't know about the BA chapter that is ruled by a council of likely chaos corrupted Chaplains who are all Asmodai tier of No Fun Allowed and have slain every librarian they had and have an extremely high amount of Death Company marines.

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>>50638394
>he even states that he's going AE DCompany

>>50638378
Sometimes a stick is better than nothing mang, also that option is probably thought for age of meme.

>>50638395
>implying I wasted any time watching the video and I'm not just complaining at the thumbnail

>>50638403
Wait, who?

>>50638419
this

>>50638431
Angels Penitent.

They used to have the least amount of Death Company of any BA Successor, bar the Lamenters before they became unstable, as they focused their time on art and poetry before the Chaplains met a man calling himself The Prophet, after which they declared themselves heads of the Chapter while the 1st company, Chapter Master, and most of the Librarius were gone on a crusade. They then banned EVERYTHING on pain of death.

>>50638399

Ok, cool. The wings and shit aren't on the plastic, right?

>>50638476
They're water transfers, you don't have to use them at all. They only exist to help you out giving your model some heraldric details and such if you can't/don't want to stencil or freehand it.

>>50638476
Nah senpai, but if you come across a renegade box I would suggest the shit out of it.

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>>50636322
With numerous freshly built suits, ready for a game tomorrow. They'd be completely done, but I've had a lot of work and college issues preventing me from painting, and I've been trying to finish my Imperial auxiliaries.

>>50638461
So, basically a chapter full of Belials?

>>50638490

Alright cool, thanks

>>50638499

Nah, my store only has 2 Wardens and they're 40% off, so I might get one. Not sure if I'd make it for sisters or csm

>>50638139
found it myself, it's not a core rules thing, it's mentioned in the votlw rule description itself in c:csm

>>50638514
>Belials
Pretty sure Asmodai is the no fun allowed one, seeing as he's the guy who ordered a vow of silence on a company for hearing someone laugh.

>>50638515
Shit thats a really good deal, buy two and make one for both.

>>50638322
You may think this is a meme. But this regularly happens in the WE section of HH books.

Tank crews are know to leave their tanks to murder people with their fists.

>>50638581
Holy shit how can people talk seriously about a force with such poor discipline.

Muhreens are literally armies of children.

>>50638542

It's hella tempting, man.

Both Knights and a box of CSM is $211. Like... Fuck

>>50638596
Idk anon, you see a couple marines climb out of a fully functional tank and sprint towards your lines and beat Tim to death with his own arms and I think you'll face a morale problem

>>50638596
WE go through partial lobotomies and are fueled by the god of fucking murder, bloodshed, and rage.

Let's see you act disciplined after you're turned into a cymbal monkey of terror and gore.

>>50638581
Blood angels do that too. I remember a pretty sweet bit of fluff from when the Baal predator was first released, which had the driver/gunner go rage mode on a bunch of rabble who surrounded their tank.

In older editions, you could even have the crew of your vehicles hop out.

>>50638609
Thats pretty fucking good m8 I wish my LGS did shit like this. Best deal we got was $25 in minis got a free pot of paint.

>>50638617
>T-they're superhumans so they can get away with being retarded!
Imagine this happening on the tabletop where they don't have enough plot armor to make the Tau blush. Two marines hopping out of their Rhino because they want to smash face would immediately be gunned down and their angry brothers in the unmanned box would be left for dead.

>>50638628
Then they are not fit to be soldiers, but hunting animals. The Emperor was right and he did nothing wrong.

>>50638649
You're absolutely right, Anon. But that's partially why they have a sort of charm to them. They're raving madmen, and I love them for it.

If anything, I'd say The Emperor was wrong for not having put them and their primarch all down from the get go.

But I suppose the Legion itself was useful when it came time to clear house on a world of rabble humans who defy compliance.

Are Space Marine Predators generally worth it?

>>50638644

They're liquidating stock, that's why. I know it's pretty great, but my money is kinda tight. Like. I CAN get it, but idk if I should. I don't even really have anyone to play with, and anyone I do isn't going to want to play against a Knight.

>>50638677
Autocannon turret, lascannon sponsons. Cost effective and will pop light to medium enemy armor with ease while it laughs at all but the most dedicated anti armor shooting.

...Don't let your enemy see its sides, though...

>>50638687
I'll give you $250 to buy them for me. lol

>>50638702

That thought was tempting, too. Very.

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>>50638675
I suppose I can see that. to be absolutely fair, it's not like the loyalists are any better. I mean, >>50638632 already has a prime example.

To each his own, though. I guess I'll just sit over here with my Imperial G... Wait, they're often retarded too. Ah well.

>>50638687
Like other anon said, even if you don't use it you could flip some of the shit for decent profit.

>>50638706
Steam ID is Glorious Spacenoid. Heading to bed for the night but if you wanna talk shop, let me know. I get paid on the 23rd.

>>50638706
Neckbeards will pay cash money for discount minis. How much do you have? You could easily flip that shit for a decent profit with a base discount that large.

>>50638725
>>50638744
hivemind

>>50638540
Yeah, that guy, sorry I'm not into traitor Marines.

>>50638725
>>50638735
>>50638744

Alright. Alright. I'll get them both and might flip the other.

>>50638069
There should be instructions in the box.

>>50638775
fuck yea

>>50638775
>tfw I want a Knight
>tfw I will never find one that cheap nearby
>tfw low on cash because 3rd knee surgery put me out of work for a good while

Enjoy the dosh from the flip, anon.

>>50638800
>tfw low on cash because 3rd knee surgery put me out of work for a good while

i thought humans only had two knees?

>>50638819
don't tell the inq
we are inclusive and non-discriminating here

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>>50638819
>ACL Tear
>Bone removal because of ACL surgery
>Meniscus tear, lost half of the damn thing

And I'm only 22...

>>50637135
Jesus christ get a job.

>>50638819
Well half of humanity has a third leg, soooo....

>>50638872
>I'm the same fucking age
Holy shit man, that sucks balls. A-at least you can get through your painting backlog, right...?

>>50638875
>not reading the chains before relying

>>50638875
Hey man I've been out of a job and searching for the past 3 months, haven't heard shit back from anywhere and the only place that gave me an interview didn't even call back. Shit sucks.

I cannot decide between Blood Angels and Grey Knights. I really like armies that focus on assault.

Any advice on deciding between them?

>>50638903
I've been ripping through my DE. I got bummed out today because of the disappointment of Imperial Agents, so I took a day off. I really wanted some new =][= toys.

Shipping out soon, wondering how tabletop simulator is for playing with people far away? found some people online saying it works, but i would rather get /tg/ opinion on it.

>>50638905
What are your skills?

>>50638644
Best deal my LGS has is "fuck you we deserve your money"

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>tfw no one dares or wants to play against my Thousand Sons only army

Seriously, I only got an around 50% win rate with it, and the rule additions weren't that much of a buff.

I really want to try all the new psychis power combos that are possible ... Just imagine having an entire piece of terrain that's now the pimp ride for your entire army

>>50638973
>Just imagine having an entire piece of terrain that's now the pimp ride for your entire army
Loyalists have been doing this for months and it's fucking tedious to play against.

>>50638947

Vassal is also an option.
Takes a some getting used to but it's pretty good once you figure it out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/vassal40k

>>50638924
Blood angels are more assault-y

Grey Knights in power armour suffer from having a very low number of attacks, and Grey Knights in terminator armour suffer from being ... terminators

>>50638875

I just had to pay rent, man. Next week I'll be ok for a bit.

>>50638800

That sucks. I have bills and shit coming, but I can't afford them anyway.

>>50638778
Yes, the box includes instructions to construct the 40k versions (which is auto pistols and chaiswords) but not the AoS instructions which is the two handed axe, two handed sword, musical instrument, shields, etc. So, alas, there are not instructions for what I'm asking for.

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>>50638715
>>50638649
It's the Butcher's Nails. They made them slightly more durable because they stopped feeling pain, but even then they always took absurd amounts of casualties in every campaign of the Crusade.

Khorne mitigated this quite a bit with his blessings. If their new rules and TH fluff are anything to go by, they're now sanic-tier fast to the point we have regular Berzerkers sprinting through half a kilometer of plasma shots which they tank and regenerate like nothing, all in about 15 to 30 seconds.

>>50638947
TTS works well. There's a fair amount of mods and tables for it. Only problem is that terrain and the models sometimes interact oddly, so accurately placing around cover can be tough.

I think I understand when chaos players bitch about thousand suns being underpowered.

I just got back from a game where I tabled them on turn 4.

As Orks.

>>50638996
Grey Knights suffer from being a 2014 7th edition codex. Guarantee if they came out after/between Necrons/SM/CWE/Tau, they'd be more broken than 5th edition.

>>50638947
Its really hard to move guys around. I'd only suggest it for playing games of kill team, or less than 500 points really.

>>50638956
I've got a lot of experience with computers and leadership. The last job I had was my first job and I managed to make shift lead in a few months. It sucked because they wanted me to work when I had school. I gave a three weeks notice and quit. I would just kill to have any paycheck for some toy soldiers right now.

>>50638960
Same here. Now I just buy through mail order places or e-tailers that off 20-25% off.

>>50639021
Not so much overpowered as overpriced as shit. Everything costs so much you can only take a handful of units unless you spam horrors.

>>50638981
>mfw 1 warp charge ignore cover ignore LoS

>>50638882
At what point do you reach third leg status? I'm sitting on 7 inches of the Emperor's fury

>>50637047
>>50637047
same fag

So how likely is it that we'll get a 40K Moratorian model now? I want one so bad.

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>>50638973
i would play you anon, i have that fun18 grot tank list that i can only play vs riptide wing

>>50639021

You killed Magnus with Orks?

>>50639049
>buy 30k Mortarion
>glue Hive Tyrant or Daemon Prince wings on it

>>50639021
Guessing he ran a bad build but still how?

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>>50638924
Furioso Dreadnoughts and Death Company Dreadnoughts, machines of war that fuck up anything in their path and with some psyker buffs can murder anything and everything. Go Blood Angels
Do it
Do it

>>50639038
>>50638960
I wish it wasn't so hard to support mine. They'd rather just cater to the cardfags. Their black friday deal was so much better, I can't remember what it was but something like free boosters or deck packs. Best deal for us was some 10 year old crisis suits for $50.

>>50639073
Morty doesn't have wings though, at least I don't think. Isn't he just a giant skeleton with a scythe as a Daemon prince?

>>50639088
Yes, Khorne, but only in Epic.

The same Epic that made Fulgrim a snek and, more topically, Magnus a red cyclops ogre.

If he gets a new model it could be completely different. Oh, and he always had wings.

>>50639038
>I buy online to save a couple bucks I spend on shipping in the end.
>Complain about lgs needing more support at this point.