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Rolled 18 (1d20)

Not your standard breadanon edition.
Dorngle stealing baby Pert sub-edition.
In threadus penultimatus we had an active night lord, a new praetor for the ranks of the XIIIth we (very briefly) discussed who should write the Siege of Terra book (turns out they should ctrl+c ctrl +v the version we have) someone wanted to take FW's sigismund to get neutered. HOLY SHIT 5000 POINT ZM. Mk3 + Mk4 = Mk5. Someone homebrewed a very choppy Malcador, then Choomposting, Chaplainposting and Magnusposting happened. Find out more >>>>>50621971
>HHG
http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf
>30k TACTICA & TIPS
What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more
http://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
>HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore
http://pastebin.com/k9uvqsub
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https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.docdroid.net%2FZTK72gs%2Flegiones-astartes-age-of-darkness-army-list.pdf.html
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>/HHG/'s Legion demographics
http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764
>Oct 16 White Dwarf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zm71nli980zr97h/WhiteDwarf_Oct16.pdf
>Primarch Popularity Poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11458318

>Other new links
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>>50633696
>Dorngle
Kek
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>>50633769
>Despite Dorn being 50% eagle, it's WS who get Eagles as wargear.
Justify this.
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What jumpack armor do you guys like best? While I adore the mkiv, I loathe the giant mono engine jump pack. And mkiii disappointingly can't jump
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>>50633818
You merely adopted the eagle. we were born with it, rode next to it.
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>>50633821
MkIII's my favourite armour, as it is of all sane men, but I can't see them with jump packs.
I like those MaxMini silver wing ones, so I'd stick them to some MkIV if I was making Assault Marines.
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>>50633818
Mongolians do that hawk raising thing. Or is it falconing? Whatever, predator-bird thing.
The Imperial Fists do not.
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>>50633821
It's fair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re644qgnCtw Plus this. Sorry about the messed up link
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>>50633861
Aren't they more mkv or ii style with double jet engines?
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>>50633735
It's over silver paint. It's a translucent crimson paint, so unless you apply it really thick you can get some interesting special effects, but you have to be careful to apply it evenly to get an even distribution. Easy enough on infantry pieces, but it's much harder on vehicles.

This is just a quick swab over my drill to show off the translucence. It's also a bit glossy, so it looks a lot better in person than in pictures.
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>>50633914
Probably, but MkV is only for the plebbiest of plebs and MkII is for the grognard-marines from the earliest days of the crusade.
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>>50633821
Probably Mk V, they're just really brutal looking motherfuckers. They also don't have the "skipping leg day" problem of some of FW's marines.
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>>50633821
MkVI. Can't get more fly than a beaky with Mark 7 jump pack.
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>>50633944
>>50633948
Well, this is awkward.
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>>50633959
Eh, it's alright: this IS /HHG/
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Who was canonically the best primarch?
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>>50634047
Horus. Horus was stronk. Papa Sang was second stronkest.
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>>50634047
Magnus

Also I thought Angron was supposed to be a manlet?
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Reposting

Whatre you guys working on?
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>>50634067
He is.
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>>50634047
>>50634062
>Warmaster. Such a grand title. Will I grow to fit it, do you think?
>No, brother, in time IT will grow to fit YOU.
Sanguinius is so based.
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>>50634079
Proportions still look off with hims between Magnus and Khan imo.
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>>50634079
I like that Dorn better than all others. Especially the look-at-me-daddy Claw he's wielding there, rather than a chainsword.
>>50634109
Based he was, which means it was as much or even more of a tragedy than with Ferrus and Fulgrim.
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>>50634062
>>50634067
>Not Russ
He was the true warrior Primarch. There is a reason he was the Emperor's executioner.
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Reposted because posted in dead bread.
Planning on building some TS. Would anyone be opposed to using fantasy High Elf bits as decorations? I was mainly planning on using banner tops for cult symbols or staff heads, and some white lion pauldrons as crests on veterans/command squads.
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>>50634152
>There is a reason he was the Emperor's executioner.
More like the Emperor's dog if you ask anyone
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>>50634156
As long as it's done well mixing bits is the point of it really. I'm using some HE seaguard bits for my Alphas (the sea serpent banner top bit), some DE swords for power swords and a bunch of other stuff.

I don't think any kit should be built stock, give your minis a personal touch.
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>>50634152
Sure. If the other guys were busy.
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>>50634219
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>>50634152
>Emperor's executioner.
That fluff was a mistake
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>>50633923
>>50634071
This
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>>50634071
Working on some custom units
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>>50634047
I picked Imperial Fists in part because Dorn's unbending will and loyalty really appealed to me (and this is was before I found out how awesome Sigismund and Alexis Polux are, for different reasons). I really like the idea of doing your duty for the sake of duty, and then being honoured and rewarded for it (instead of seeking honour for its own sake).
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>>50634410
>shadow slippers
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>>50634047
This is power levels but close enough
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>>50634410
I might rename shadow slippers, to me it sounds like they're wearing edgy, but comfortable footwear.
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>>50634219
>u yelly, brah?
>u yelly
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>>50634534
kek
>>50634553
That's how they're so sneaky. Sneaky and comfy

Seriously though yeah. That one is very much a WIP. The Deliverers are basically done though.
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>>50634047
At what? They were all the best at something.

For example: Vulkan was the best wrestler, with Horus and Corax tying for second.
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>>50634703
This is (You), chomping down on the bait.
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>>50634219
>>50634263
>>50634256
>>50634268
Don't take bait.
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>>50634703
Silly anon, Fulgrim was the best wrestler, by dint of being so oiled up that nobody could get hold of him.
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>>50634410
>Mor Deythan
>Deliverers
>Dark Furies
>Shadow Wardens
That's a lot of legion specifics, and I wonder, how many legion specifics will each legion get?
Some like the UM have three but most have only two.
Also, I have never heard of Shadow Wardens...which means they are that good at hiding ;^)

Are they like chaplain-wardens, anon?
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>>50634818
Dark Furries?
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What jump pack is this based on?
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>>50634219
I love that the World Eaters can throw away 5580 marines like it's nothing, meanwhile that'd be more than half of the Thousand Sons Legion.
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>>50634410
>Artificer armour
>Refractor field
>shrouded
>MC lightning claw
>volkite serpenta
>all for 45pts

Jesus what
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>>50634898
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>>50634898
Old Raptor.
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>>50634913
>more than half of the Thousand Sons Legion.
Sadly I've heard the're bumping the TS up to around 50,000.
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>>50634970
I heard Old Raptor.
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>>50634071
Just finished my first Vet. there is a magnet in the gun so I can swap out plasma for melta or flamer and there is a magnet in the wrist and had so if don't give him a combi weapon then he can have a bolt pistol. I just have to paint the base.
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>>50635034
He said "old raptor", not "old old raptor"
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>>50635034
Not that old.
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>>50635060
>MkIII and MkIV mixed
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>>50635083
To be fair, GW uses those legion specific torsos on all bodies, regardless of mark.
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>>50635061
>>50635071
Rogue Trader called. It says it doesn't care and Traitorfags need to look at the old school.
>>50635083
Anon, there's art of it.
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>>50635083
>>50635111
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>>50635111
>111
The fuck.
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>>50635117
Except anon asked what's the make of the chaos lord's jump pack, not "what's objectively the worst look for CSM ever in the history of the world?"
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>>50635060
So more death guard
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>>50635083
>>MkIII and MkIV mixed
Well guess what, anon.
Some armourers made a MkIV suit up-armoured with MkIII-style plates. It loks like MkIII, but it isn't.
I think this is the armour Trap would wear
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>>50635134
According to the text, that's MkIV suit with just a MkIII helmet. Sure, it looks like MkIII torso on a MkVI legs with MkII arms and MkVII shoulder pads, but it's suppose to be MkIV.

Funny enough, that's what I'm going for with my DG, though the helmet will be the FW one.
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>>50635172
>"what's objectively the worst look for CSM ever in the history of the world?"
If he asked that I would have posted EC.
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>>50635187
Except the DG torso used has the segmented body of the MkIII, instead of the smooth body with cables of the MkIV.
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>>50635201
Good man.
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>>50635227
Shushhhh, it's MkIV pants time.
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>>50634818
>Shadow Wardens
Coraxs body guard. So sneaky, so beakie, that only the king of beakies himself could evade them.

>>50634926
Comparing them to Deathshroud
>S+1 AP2, with reaping blow(Basically +1A and S5 AP2 at I3)
>Termi armor(so 2+/5(or 4)++, relentless)
>All characters
>Chem hand flamer
>Scoring
>Bodyguard rule
>all for 45 points

The power scythe is 300% better than a Talon.

Chem hand flamer more or less equals the serpenta(better overwatch, more hits, and shred vs deflag and +1A for dual wielding)

The termi armor is basically artificer armor and a refractor field in one, but DS have the option for cataphractii for a 4++. Plus the termi armor gives relentless, sure they dont use it, but its still a bonus rule that they have.

Shrouded is in place of scoring, which is huge in 30K.

So it's a pretty close swap. Need to hone in their special rule, that may increase their points depending.
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>>50635249
>mfw plastic Mk IV legs are too bulky and squatty
>mfw resin Mk IV legs are too noodly and spaghetti-like

Suffering.
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>>50635282
Oh and you can only have one unit of Shadow Wardens because theyre unique, unlike Death Shroud
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>>50635398
I request anon post the Death Shroud Corps army list!
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>>50634071
Still trying to figure out how to make the edgiest moritat.
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>>50635548
It depends on what you call "Edgiest"
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>>50635605
>KaedesNex.gif
FTFY
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so a deredeo comes out to 66 GBP and I want to hit the 75 for the free shipping next month, any fun "cheap" thing I could get for World Eaters around 10-20 pounds?
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>>50635615
I'll be renaming it then.
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Trying to make a list out of B@C box. What am I doing wrong?

++ The Age of Darkness (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List v202) (1492pts) ++

+ HQ (302pts) +

····Legion Centurion (135pts) [Artificer Armour, Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Refractor Field]
······Consul [Chaplain]

····Legion Praetor (167pts) [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, Combi-Weapon, Digital Lasers, Power Fist]

+ Elites (415pts) +

····Contemptor Dreadnought Talon (190pts)
······Legion Contemptor Dreadnought [Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon]

····Legion Terminator Squad (225pts) [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, Heavy Flamer, 4x Legion Terminators, 4x Power Fist]
······Legion Terminator Sergeant [Chainfist, Grenade Harness]

+ Troops (775pts) +

····Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (245pts) [9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Veteran Tactics: Resolve]
······Additional Wargear [Melta Bombs, 2x Meltagun]
······Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol]
········Combi-weapon [Combi-weapon: Meltagun]
········Power Weapon [Power Sword]

····Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (285pts) [9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Veteran Tactics: Resolve]
······Additional Wargear [Melta Bombs, 2x Missile Launcher with Suspensor Web and Flakk Missiles]
······Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol]
········Combi-weapon [Combi-weapon: Meltagun]
········Power Weapon [Power Sword]

····Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (245pts) [9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Veteran Tactics: Resolve]
······Additional Wargear [Melta Bombs, 2x Plasma gun]
······Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol]
········Combi-weapon [Combi-weapon: Meltagun]
········Power Weapon [Power Sword]

+ Legion +

····Legiones Astartes [ XVI: Sons of Horus, Traitor]

····Rite of War [Chosen Duty]
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>>50635628
Would have suggested chain axes, but then remembered that they're free.
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>>50635605

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPHlb72DvRo
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>>50635548
Have him standing in a pile of corpses with his torso a bit back and two extending hands and one of those screaming head bits, make him look like he's laughing.
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>>50635681
I dig it.
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>>50635679
But her ultimate isn't Chain Blossom, it's 1 (one) meltabomb. She is equipped with the Displacer matrix, though.
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>>50635679
Is that custom quips for each type of downed enemy? It's a small detail but a nice touch really.
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>>50635730
It's not for every character, but there's a lot of sound files in that game that you normally don't get to hear.

>>50635605
I just want to make a TS moritat blamming that Not-Bjorn from BoP and I'm trying to figure out what psychic fuckery I want to represent on it. I could do magic bullet or whispy ghostly shit.
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>>50635651
Need Rhinos to transport your vets, but it's fine.
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>>50635628
Legion specific shoulderpads? Volkite weapons (I love them)?
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>>50635670
Underrated post
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>>50635806
Flowy robes to depict the 360° he's pulling on him?
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>>50635651
Since you're playing SoH you might want to invest in Drop Pods, following that if you still want to use Veterans as troops then look into kit-bashing a Maloghurst the Twisted mini and mixing it with the Orbital Assault RoW so you can have Veteran troops in Drop Pods. Give them Machine Killers instead of Resolve to make the most of the Meltaguns and Drop Pods.
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>>50635806
Have two skeletons/pink horrors on different bases carrying his guns.
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>>50636115
Okay, you're safe. For now.

Fat scribe is THE henchman. Inquisitors without the fat scribe are to be executed on the spot.
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>>50635826
I do like volkite chargers, but would the volkite chargers look like donald trump tiny hands if I used them with the plastic tartaros terminators?
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>>50636208
Do the chargers come with hands? The ones I have didn't. So I don't think you'd have a hand size problem since you'd have to use the plastic hands with the combi bolters cut off.
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What mks of armor were the most common for each legion? We're there any legions that did not have access to certain mks?

I'm looking to paint up a squad of pre heresy Thousand Sons and always thought they used highly modified mkiv suits. But the Burning of Prospero box uses all mkiii so I'm not sure any more.
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>>50636208
One anon provided me with photographic evidence that at least FW tartaros hands were identical to PA hands. Don't know about GW ones.
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>>50636266
All legions had all marks. All legions used all marks. It's retarded for a military force not to use equipment provided to them.

Only exception is the MkVII, which came around at the very end of the Heresy and even then was mostly issued to loyalists on Terra. Some heretics might have snagged some for themselves, of course, but bulk would have gone to IF, BA and WS.
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>>50636266
>the Burning of Prospero box uses all mkiii
Maybe they were guard units. In 40k that's the use for the fearsome-looking relic MkIIIs, and on the defense of Prospero there wasn't too much room for maneuverability: it was a matter of frontal assault.

But besides that, all legions used almost all armours
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>>50636266
>Achean Pattern Helmets and Shoulder Pads were the Mk IV ‘Maximus’ battle plate design of Thousand Sons Legion during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy. They were produced by the forges local to Prospero exclusively for this Legion and used often by Legion veterans.
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>>50636208
You can always cut the hand off the Volkite Charger and the gun off some terminator hand. Unless you're buying resin FW Tartaros and have no bitsbox
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Where is the best place to grab Volkite Charges? Ebay?
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>>50636163
>Allowing fats in your retinue.

You're wasting the emperor's rations and should be starved to death. Start with some fork put downs and some plate pushaways.

Mastering literacy and scribbling in high gothic is no excuse for heretical gluttonous behaviour.

Accepting such a creature in one's retinue is tolerance of such behaviour and should be punished by starvation. Your Inquisition ][ does not make you a master, merely a more capable servant. Act like it.

You're probably Ordo Malleus scum. I have sent a callidus disguised as a food item. Should you attempt to eat it you will face the Emperor's dietary punishment.

Good Day.
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>>50635083

You called?
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>>50635651
Chosen duty is only usable by delegatus, either make your praetor a delegatus or take pride of the legion
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>>50636391
>trying to pin down the ordo chronos
heads up, I ate all of your food for the next forty years and didn't tell you
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>>50636413
Your post did make me notice how raptor jump packs are basically MkV jump packs though
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Whats a good dark bronze color? I need it to paint the trim of my IF terminators/veterans.
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>>50634047
Perturabo
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>>50636463
>implying the ordo chronos didn't retcon themselves out of the wh40k universe

we know when you are heretic, an ordo venenum operative just poisoned your light switch, hope you enjoy liquid shits for the next 3 weeks
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>>50636475
>Trap
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>>50636475

Well, duh. Night Raptors basically set the scene for CSM raptors. Why do you there's lightning on the raptor armor?
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>>50636463
>implying that was a deliberate decision and not just you weakness of character and desire for gluttony.

For you my friend of an Ordo of such renown I had to look it up, I recommend lho sticks. Heed not the complaints of death and cancerous growths. Know that the emperor protects and that lho sticks are cheaper than your lunch. Should your faith in the Emperor be lacking as I suspect and the lho sticks shorten your miserable and pointless life, simply use your timey wimey powers and go back.

Ordo chronos. What's next? Ordo Bird watchers?
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>>50636532

Costco?
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>>50636389
Forge world, or your local neighbourhood chinaman.

The pack of ten isn't the worst deal.
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>>50636740

It's not. $15 for the pack isn't that bad. However, it's the shipping that kills it.

I can get this for $9 free shipping, and its tempting.
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>>50636799

I don't like the look of that resin.
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>>50636834

Why not?

I've never really worked with resin before.
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>>50636852

The shininess and darkness of the grey gives me bad memories. It could be fine and the shininess is just smooth resin and the color means nothing, but it could also mean it's sweating release agent.

Even when I get perfectly fine resin that happens to be smooth and slick, if it doesn't show up as matte in the light I get triggered.
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>>50636926

Well it's $9 flat, so if it's bad no real loss.

What's the danger of the releasing agent? Health or just wet?
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>>50637030

All resin models come with release agent. They spray silicon or other oil on the rubber molds so that the finished model can be removed from it without ripping or damaging the mold.

Normally you can wash this off just fine. But sometimes, the model absorbs the oil into its pores for some reason. This means no matter how often you wash the model, after a few hours it will slowly seep out a thin layer of oil again, making priming it and painting it impossible as the oil causes all paint to just bead off like water.

If I wash a resin model, and it's still shiny under the light, this causes me to become paranoid of oil sweating. Often it's just shiny because the resin is so smooth, but it's still a little OCD thing I have.

I have very clean hands and hate oil, so it's very easy for me to feel if a shiny piece of resin is actually oily or not. If I rub my thumb on it and it's squeaky clean, I know it's just shiny cause of the resin and not because of any oil remaining.
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>>50637059

Hrm. Yea, that could be a problem if it sweats.
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>>50634071
blocking in the kantor blue on my world eaters, second attempt at painting them and they're slightly better looking. I don't think I have the patience for painting all 50 infantry this holiday season though...
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>>50637335
That predator in the back

>target aquired
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>>50637359
>You just killed Church, you team killing fucktard!
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>>50637416
> .... just as planned ....
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So got in another game this weekend with a mates new Fists army and Scoria's usual robot tag alongs, anyone keen to find out how Siggy vs Scoria played out?
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>>50637624

Fuck Scoria
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>>50637624
Sigismund always wins, ALWAYS!.
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>>50637704
Sorry Siggy went down like a clown frown, Scoria and a right of the beast enhanced Castellax wrecked him pretty hard. Here he is on his last wound, poor Sig. Dude I was playing had a shocking game with his rolls.
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>>50637770
Whats scorias save? 2+/3++?
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Blackshields Combiweapons...

Combination Pariah Bolter with Pariah flamer?
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>>50637857
2+, 3++ and eternal warrior as well, pretty much came down to me rolling saves even with siggs force inv reroll and my opponent getting tagged with D3 wounds for every hit + a cheeky robot punching him while he was busy.

Was nice to get a almost both fully painted army match in again.
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>>50637903
Man, I was looking at that huge quad mortar behind the land raider, and after a while realized it's on top of the ruined building.
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>>50637903
Ok ok, pretty spooky. Not unkillable, but spooky.
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>>50637903
What do you usually run as Scorias bodyguard?
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>>50638024
Standard vanilla 2xCastellax with maulers, 1 bolter and 1 flamer. That is for walking up the board. If I want to be cheeky roll with 3x Vorax for outflanking. Either way that is enough ablative wounds to get him into punching range.

His weakness is the same as a Primach, high volume of high str shooting. Do not engage in CC just move away and keep shooting, he has shit mobility anyway, unless its ZM most armies can just move around him.

I do this all the time to people who play with Primachs, unless its Konrad or Corax you can just bait them into a corner and then push down the other flank or focus fire them into the dirt.
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>>50638101
>unless its Konrad or Corax
Ha you read my mind. I was just crunching numbers of him vs Corax. Corax wins out in round 3 or 4 in a straight slugfest 1v1. Taking into account shadow walk, scourge, hit and run, and vector strike. Didn't take into account the chance to blind or cause fear though.
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Zone Mortalis was pretty fun.

No pictures, but some highlights included:
>Rolling Void Born on my Praetor, giving Deep Strike to my Red Butchers, and having them mishap and die into a wall turn 2
>having my 10-man Tartaros Terminator squad slog it out with an Invictarus Terminator squad and taking 3 solid turns to win, only to be shot to shit by a seeker squad right afterwards.
>Veterans and Praetor accomplishing absolutely nothing all game, but nabbing a shitload of victory points by sitting in the enemy deployment zone at the end
>enemy's Space Wolf Praetor (with Paragon Blade, lasers, and the works) being gibbed by my Jetbike sergeant and his shitty little power axe.

Overall, good times.
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Any NL/WE players with bloody models can give pointers on how to get CONSISTENT blood splatter?

I can make blood splatter on a piece of paper just fine. However, I can't aim it for shit and I can never get the right amount on it so I either end up with models that have not enough blood, just the right amount of blood (a bit of splatter on one side of the helmet, etc less is more), or WAY TOO MUCH splatter.
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>>50638101
That basilisk looks awesome.
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>>50638828
How are you applying it? With a brush?

I take the most bristly, shitty brush I have, and put just a tiny amount on the tips and dab lightly against the model.
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>>50637668
It's okay, I'm sure whatever primarch you used to have will do better next time. :^)
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>>50639130

Flicking with brush.
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>>50639369
Ah, yeah, that's inconsistent as fuck. I mean, it works and looks really good when it does, but that's not my favourite method.
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>>50638828
just paint it on. it's all about showing direction when it comes to blood splatter.
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Question about Terror Squads:

How do I arm them? Do I go full 30 Volkite?
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>>50639831
i think the general consensus is that you do 1 full sized squad with volkite, then leave the other ones cheap
i could be wrong though
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>>50638420
That sounds propa killy. You've done good mate
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>>50639920

So one squad 10 Volkite and two squads of 5 with just BPCCW? Worth adding anything to the champ?
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>>50639970
i meant 1 10 squad with volkite, and 2 10 squads sans volkite
power weapon/artificier on the sarge, if theres an option for power weapons in the squad you should take those as they are no slouches in close combat
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>>50639993

Ah ok.

Looks like the Executioners have the option for Boltgun, heavy chainblade, Volkite chargers, and a single rotary. None of them replace anything.

The Headsman gets PW, Chain Glaive, single claw, or fist.

Don't know if the heavy chain is worth it.
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>>50633696
>Dorngle stealing baby Pert edition
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

That's how Pert ended up on a jagged cliff with no memory, Dorn tried to kill him!
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>>50637770
Wait, I've seen that Scoria on here!
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>>50640251
Wait, I'm a retard. Misread your post as if you were the IF player.
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What addition would you most like to see to the rules?
For me, I want Loken to have an upgrade to a Knight Errant
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>>50639993

If you don't mine my asking again, how should I do raptors? One big squad with my Praetor and an apothecary? Any upgrades for them traps?
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Since my Mortarion came out as a fake, I have no desire to paint him up and use him (because he looks shitty and parts have been so fragile they've fallen off)

I've got 520 spare points floating around my Death Guard army.

Do I just man up and buy him from FW next month for full price, or do I try and spend 520 points on other shit to make my army generally more rounded?

For the price of a Primarch (admittedly a tough, mobile, killy one) I could have another 20-30 dudes or a couple of extra dreads floating about
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>>50640745
Post your list.

If you have HS slots, get Leviathans.
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>>50640750
I'll give a quick run down, 2500 point list. I also had 135 points to spare before. All tanks have dozers on, Sarges have AA and Melta.

10x Deathshroud (410) (in a Spartan, these dudes would have been with the Morty death-star)

10 man Tac squad in Rhino (180)

10 man Tac squad in Rhino (180)

Kheres Mortis Dread (180)

3x Quad Mortars (210)

Spartan fully kitted out (375)

Sicaran Venator (195)

Sicaran Battle Tank (210)
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I just noticed the Sicaran in the Rogue One trailer. GW suing Disney would be so epic.
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>>50635822
>>50635899
>>50636438
Well, it was mostly about how to put those models together.

I'll need another B@C box to have Support and Heavy Support squads.

Right now I believe I have:
3 flamers
3 meltagun
3 plasma guns
3 missle launchers
3 heavy bolters
2 (?) combi weapons
4 power fists or 1 power fist and 3 lightning claws
3 power swords
3 plasma pistols
many bolters and bolt pistols
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>>50640858
Sorry to post shit loads, I should also point out that I haven't bought the Sicarans yet, but I own everything else.
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>>50638420
Good to hear your massive ZM went well gamebro. Warms the cockles of my heart to see other anons actually playing games instead of bitching about tier lists and waifus. Keep up the good work and get pics next time
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How's this look?

Night Lords - 1850 (1843)
RoW: Terror Assault

Praetor of the Legion
Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Trophies
Paragon Blade, Lightning Claw

Apothecarian Detachment
Apothecary w/ Jump Pack

Cataphractii Terminator Squad x5
Sergent w/Combi-Melta
Combi-Melta x2
Pair of Lightning Claws
Reaper Autocanon
Teleport Transponder

Contemptor Dreadnaught
Multimelta and DCC w/bolter

Night Raptor Squad x15
Huntsmaster w/ AA and Chainglaive
Melta Gun x3
Power Axe x2
Lightning Claws x5

Terror Squad x10
Headsman w/ AA and Chainglaive
Volkite x10

Terror Squad x10
Headsman w/ AA and Chainglaive

Terror Squad x10
Headsman w/ AA and Chainglaive
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>>50637770
I saw that Scoria before, and I was planning on patterning quite a lot of mine off him when I got around to building him. What is his torso and head from? I can't find it anywhere.

Good to hear he's being suitably awesome, and nice paint job on that Castellax.
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>>50641244
looks like it is going to get absolutely wrecked by anyone with vehicles and or arty. I would play you in a heartbeat. You have no delivery mechanism for anything other than the termies and no anti tank.
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>>50641305
I got you covered dark mech bro! here is the WIP shot, body and torso are just the plastic tech priest reversed! head is from a Dark Angels plastic upgrade kit I had lying around.

I will soon have my grubby hands on a 2nd thanatar to convert into that Cynis we were talking about the other day. Gunna convert that sucker over xmas cause I used one today and sweet zombie jesus it was a rape machine!
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>>50641307

Well, the Terror squads have infiltrate, the raptors have 3 meltas, the Dread has a MM, and the termies have 3 combi-meltas and an AC.

What would you change? Drop Pods on the terror squads?
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>>50641346
I used to run NL, and like most NL players I thought Terror Assault sounded the tits.......it isn't. While on paper the Terror squads sound good without a transport or a table with shitloads of terrain they will get wrecked AND they are expensive as fuck. Raptors are way to expensive and sitting ducks as well. If you are going to play NL I suggest going balls to the wall drop pods. Tailor to your meta though, what do you the guys at your regular games take? are they vehicle heavy? arty light? or are you just playing casual with a friend or two?

not trying to be mean, just been there and done that and don't want you spending dosh on something you will regret.
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>>50638420
>my 10-man Tartaros Terminator squad slog it out with an Invictarus Terminator squad and taking 3 solid turns to win
But anon, according to /hhg/, no one can defeat Invictarus units in CC other than Primarches!
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>>50640745
>Since my Mortarion came out as a fake
My heart to you, anon.
How much money did you lose?
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>>50641439
£30 :'(

Notified GW that the eBayer is infringing and also started a return process. The cunt hasn't messaged me back, so hopefully eBay and PP will sort me out
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>>50641338
Nice work and thanks, that was the biggest problem I was having with planning my Scoria. Going to have two weeks off come this Friday and I will probably order a bunch of stuff then, so I can actually get started on some reasonable chunk of army.

Going to replace the Abeyant with a big scenic base, and will come off it to go into the turret of my Baneblade I'll be using with the Ordo Reductor.
Thanatars look utterly beastly with the buffs from Cybertheurgy, hope he looks good when you're done with him. 8 instadeath blasts at AP2 seem like something I should probably include just to really annoy that one WE player who always runs Angron+ 10 Butchers.

I recently discovered how fun assault is in this game, so I'm probably going to include some Vorax and Arlatax just for cool value.

This is the first time I've been properly enthused about doing a project itself, instead of what I'm going to get at the end on the game table. Is this what being a hobbyist feels like? :)
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>>50641427
>Primarchs
>beating Invictarus Suzerain

Lol whatever pleb
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>>50641474
Here's to hope, anon, get paid.
>>50641475
Basically.
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>>50641475
god speed hobby anon
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>>50641410

My meta is mostly non-existent at this point, which is sad, though I'm trying to generate interest. There's one guy who's new and really only has some KDK on foot, my friend from my old shop has a ton of 5th edition meta eldar with a bunch of rangers, and occasionally a few people show up with a few different armies like Marines, tau, orks, and IG. I think one of them has nurgle daemons, too.

In terms of HH, I'm the only one, though I know SOMEONE bought the other BoP box that my store got. I just don't know who.

My problem is that I'm mostly converting from plastic and I want to also be able to use them as 40k CSM since the new legion rules came out.

It's shame about raptors and terror squads being bad. I was having fun converting them.
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>>50641555
Well in a non existant or limited meta they will be fine though..... just be keep it in the back of your mind though that if HH catches on for your club vehicles will eventually be a thing. Try and play some small ZM games, shits fun and quick and is what hooked alot of us on HH
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>>50641555
Anon, don't always allow table effectiveness to dictate your model range and hobby interests.
I play UMs, and I don't spam Suzerains or not!Tyrants, I still enjoy putting big fucking blobs of line marines, and I like to put out heavy bolters because dakka is fun.
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>>50640745
>>50640858
>>50641053

Anyone have advice?
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>>50641650
Get more bodies, anon, you have no efficient way of piling objectives.
Or something fast attack to strike down enemy armor on the outflank.
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>>50641650
>Taking the absolute bare minimum bodies so you can take more vehicles and arty.
:^)
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Hello anons. I need your help. I've finally got a day off and I have no motivation to paint. Please post anything to help motivate me, in the meantime i'll post my backlog.

1x Legion Glaive (Primed)
5x Cataphractii (Primed)
10x SoH Reavers (Primed)
30x MKIII marines (Unbuilt)
5x SoS (Unbuilt)
1x BaC Chaplain (Primed)
20x MkIV marines (Half primed)
1x Land Raider Phobos (Primed)
1x Apothecary w/ Jumppack (unbuilt)
1x Champion of the Legion (unprimed)
10x Solar Auxilia lasrifle section (Primed)
2x Leman Russ (Demolisher and Vanquisher, both unprimed)
Legion Praevian (Unprimed)
5x Vorax (Unprimed)
1x Ultramarines Praetor (Half Painted)
and last but definitely not least,
1x Horus, The Warmaster

I hope you guys find time to help motivate a poor lost soul, also pic related, part of the cause of my procrastination
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>>50641695
>>50641734
10, 2W Terminators that can hold objectives don't count?
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>>50641734
>Taking blobs of infantry in the age of artillery spam
>Spending 250 points on a unit that can't hurt anything vs 200 points on a unit that can hurt lots of things
:^)
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>>50641810
You want your elite CC unit to camp an OBJECTIVE?
>>50641918
>objective games don't exist
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>>50641918
>Taking artillery in the age of predator spam
>Spending 200 points on a unit that can't hurt anything vs 75 points on a unit that can hurt lots of things
:^)
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Im getting BoP Wat legion should i do [not the yiffs pls
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>>50641617
I still don't want an army that won't do anything, but I do love my Raptors.

>>50641591

Well, what else should I do then?

Keep in mind that most of my stuff isn't together, but i have a ton of bodies. My collection consists Calth, Prospero, and I've started getting CSM raptors and kit bashing them into Night Raptors, though they're not glued yet.

Worst case scenario, I just build them as CSM or something.

ZM seems neat, but we don't have any of the terrain for it.
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>>50641972
These dubs say Space Wolves.
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>>50641991
WWWWHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYY im fucking cursed i tell you
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>>50641946
No, I'm just saying that they have that ability, obviously that's not what I'd intend them to do and certainly not the reason I'm taking them

I know why I should take more bodies, it just feels counterintuitive to drop something like a Sicaran or a Kheres which can be real killy to infantry, transports and medium tanks, to take a Tactical squad for the same price to sit still and get mashed up by templates
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>>50642007
Those aren't dubs, in future please spend more time reading the briefing pack and less time hitting on Moneypenny.
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>>50641972
White scars look really good in mk 2/3. And given the style of tache you drew on that image, I think you subconsciously want to be a spacemongol.
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>Read "Master of Mankind" reviews
?It's them bitching at Chaos being declared the ultimate victor of 40K

Where did these guys come from? It's like they missed all the fluff that points that humanity is doomed and that Chaos is ascendant from the rulebooks.
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>>50642272
Seemed like it was more the disrespect space marines get.
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>>50642272
>I posted it again lol
Must you?
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Hey /hhg/

I'm new to this whole HH stuff and although I'm active 40k player this amount of books available for 30k is baffling.

What do I need to read for Raven Guard rules, most up to date preferably. I've been reading about Rite of War called Decapitating Strike or something, but didn't see it in Legiones Astartes Age of Darkness army lists. I'm so lost with all this stuff please halp.
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>>50642272
I think it's more that the rest of the HH kinda feels irrelevant after you read MoM. specially with the Emperor being like "Malcador and Dorn bussy trying to fend off Horus like that even matters hurr durr lmao" alongside Horus being set up to lose by the gods of chaos because that was 'just a prank'

And personally I think there was always this very remote chance that's almost non-excistent that humanity wins out in the end that keeps a lot of people hooked (at least if all the bitching to advance the plot in 40k is anything to go by) It was kinda like the ultimate cliffhanger.
Then MoM comes in and claims that everything is lost already, that can make some people wonder why they should stay interested if the outcome is already determined.

They should have kept humanity's chance of survival more vague, to still allow for everybody to have their own idea about the setting.
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>>50642325
This is literally the first time I post about it here. When was this posted here? Get to the archives. Show me.

>>50642299
Only the Blood Angel was disrespected but that was because he is a cripple and the Custard was a cunt.
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>>50642377
Compare 40K to 30K. Does knowing the ultimate outcome of 30K ruined your enjoyment of it? No. Knowing the ending of 40K also won't ruin things for you guys. Unless you are a small minded fanboy of the losing factions that it.
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>>50642369
Read OP.
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>>50642441
No, it's how what was stated for years, like Horus being a truly credible threat to the Emperor, the sacrifice of Malcador and Sanguinious, it's being made to seem as being lesser, if nonexistent.
They've been fronting Abbadon for example, by shitting on Horus nonstop, making the Arch-Traitor look like a punk.
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>>50642463
>Horus Heresy: Just a prank bro!
~The Chaos Gods.
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>>50642463
>They've been fronting Abbadon for example, by shitting on Horus nonstop, making the Arch-Traitor look like a punk.

But isn't that the point of Horus since the introduction of Abaddon hence why....

>*Horus was weak, Horus was a fool. He had the galaxy in the He had the galaxy in the palm of his hand, and let it slip away.
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>>50642369
This is the link you want (from the "HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore" pastebin in the OP links) for most of the raven guard stuff, for that matter most of the unique legion stuff is in this book. There's also one more rite of war for them in another book, (can't remember which, sorry,) but you can get a description of it on the 1d4chan tactica page (also in the OP links, also very much worth a read). However, that ROW isn't really of interest if you're planning on going pure RG, it's more for if you want to pair them with some militia allies. Don't think there's a more up to date pdf with all the extra ROWs than the link in pic, but I'm sure some anon will correct me if that's wrong.

>>50642382
>When was this posted here? Get to the archives. Show me.
You're not fooling anyone, Carnac, your "proofs" style is so distinctive you might as well put the trip back on. Stop trying to shit up the thread again.
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>>50642509
That line sounds more like a Johnny Comelately that thinks he is hot shit when better people than him tried and took down better people than he ever will in the process, not that he is ACTUALLY better.
Abaddon thinking he is hot shit, and the recent lore retconning in making everyone else look like a bitch compared to him is entirely different.
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>>50642516
Show me in the archives. It should be easy.
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>>50642544
>Now shows us in the archives where BL writing hurt you.
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>>50642544
All of them.
Even the threads that have nothing to do with HH.
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>>50642584
ADB ripping off Be'lakor's shtick to boost up Drach'nyen hurt me so much.

I get why they need to make Abaddon more potentially menacing but Be'lakor is where I draw the line.
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>>50635651
Who are these people?

Argel Tal, Ahriman, Kharn, Cypher, Lucius, ???
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>>50640173
Golden Eagles kill turtles by dropping them from the sky, all of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7FFlFy8eM
bears https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWaosOaURfU
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>>50642516

Hey thanks! You, sir, are a real gentleman and scholar.
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>>50641803
I long for Total War 40k.
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Better to have a 10man squad in a rhino or a 20man squad on foot?
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>>50643353
Ew no, it should be a proper real-time strategy game and not some bullshit without fine control.
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Would it be weird if I used this guy's legs on a tartaros character? Would you enough notice it's cataphractii?
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>>50643431
I just want a 40k game. Deathwing looks promising, and it's Dark Angels which means it should be great. However it references Gav and I think he did write the plot for last time I checked.
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>>50643289
The golden eagle is such a bully! Bears are for hugging!
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>>50643356
People will say to use 20 man squads because it's more thematic for 30k, however they're really fucking vulnerable to artillery spamming. They basically require an apothecary to stay alive.

By the time you've got 2 mandatory troop slots filled with 20 man squads with apothecaries, you've spunked 600 points on immobile artillery sponges who can't kill really anything, but can sit still on objectives, unless charged by: any primarch, anything world eater, deathshroud/grave wardens etc OR anyone who's brought medusas or quad mortars
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>>50643525
The Haast's Eagle was worse, and we just missed it by four hundred years.
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>>50643555
Case in point.
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>>50643593
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>>50643555
To be honest, Bears scare me too. Supposedly you have to stand up and intimidate the smaller black bears, but I don't think I could do that, while the bigger grizzly bear will go Revenant on you if you stand up against it, and may even eat you a little if you play dead.

It cannot be outrun, it cannot be outfought, you can't climb away, it cannot be bargained with, it cannot be reasoned with, it does not know were it is.

That's why Xana has it as a coat of arms.
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>>50643546
tfw the campaign you're in includes a mission that requires all indirect fire to be direct fire.
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>>50643605
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>>50643546

Yea, that makes sense. I'm just trying to figure out how to set up my NL. I'm starting to think that maybe I just go with Pride of the Legion with rhino vets and terminators with some clawed raptors or something.
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>>50643612
>It cannot be outrun
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>>50643627
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281652-night-lords-tactics/
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>>50640918
Its the same kind of look as the tanks in star-wars battlefront.
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>it cannot be outfought
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>>50643622
Back to birds.
>>50643696
See that? It did a little jig before kicking him.
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>>50643633
>>50643696
>Bears can run up to 40 miles per hour, fast enough to catch a running horse.
>The largest mammalian carnivore that ever lived on land was the giant short-faced bear. Twice the size of the biggest modern bear, it was 6' 5" tall at the shoulder when standing on all fours. Scientists believe it had very long legs and chased antelope on the North American prairies. It died around 12,000 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp4t7EJyzf8

Emps bless us everyone
We're a broken people living under Angry Bears
And they can't be outfought
They can't be outdone
They can't out matched
They can't be outrun
No

And when I close my eyes tonight
To symphonies of blinding light
(Emps bless us everyone
We're a broken people living under Angry Bears, oh)
Like memories in cold decay
Transmissions echoing away
Far from the world of Mariana
Where oceans bleed into the sky

Emps save us everyone,
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns?
For the sins of the Haast
The sins of our forebears
The sins of Psychic Sharks
The sins of the Bears
No

Emps save us everyone,
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns?
For the sins of the Haast
The sins of our forebears
The sins of Psychic Sharks
The sins of the Bears
No

And when I close my eyes tonight
To symphonies of blinding light
(Emps save us everyone,
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns, oh)
Like memories in cold decay
Transmissions echoing away
Far from the world of Mariana
Where oceans bleed into the sky

Like memories in cold decay
Transmissions echoing away
Far from the world of Mariana
Where oceans bleed into the sky

Lift me up...
Let me go...
Lift me up...
Let me go...
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>>50643650

This is from 2013. Is it still valid? Also, every idea I've seen in that link so far has been turned down here.

Also, I don't think my books are up to date. I have no idea what some of those RoW are like DAV
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>>50643789
We need to add this to the grimdark songwriting page.
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>>50643804
The first posts are, but it's a 50+ page thread, and the most recent are up to date.

Generally they're more helpful over there than here which is a bonus
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>>50643879

Yea, I read some stuff towards the end. Where are the rules for this DAV? They're not in the red book I have.
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>>50643849
Eh, I don't know. It's veeeery local humour. But I still remember the Deep sea threads
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>>50643497
Sadly the beta for Deathwing has been rather dissapointing. Lots of people are reporting performance issues and hard crashes, which could still be fixed ... but terminator armour breaks in seconds to autoguns and pistols for example.
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>>50643894
Drop Assault Vanguard.
Page 189 of HH6: Retribution.
It's one of the new generic legion Rites.
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>>50641972
Luna Wolves.
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>>50643497
>deathwing looks promising
>"we went for a moba style leveling, so it gets reset every match, to make the player want to go and grind for levels to get those better weapons and perks"
yea, no, fuck off.
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>>50644263
In the sense that it could be good and has one of my favorite groups in it.
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>>50644205
>but terminator armour breaks in seconds to autoguns and pistols for example.
That's stupid. Those bullets better be genestealer claws then.
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>>50644234
Ah ok, thanks
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>>50643212
Probably some random dudes from each Traitor Legion.
Maybe Dantioch.
Of course Alpharius and Alpharius.
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>>50643696
>>50643789
Could an unarmed astartes taken on a grizzly bear?
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>>50643460
I have this model, but im new to HH. Is there a good way to run him with smurfs?
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>>50644623
There's a 40k comic where an unarmed and unarmored Blood Angel shoves his fist through a cultist's chest. Grizzly bears are just hairy cultists.
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>>50644631

Cut the bolter off of his volkite charger

Say the hammer is a paragon blade

???

Cookie cutter
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>>50643460
>Praetor may take a combiweapon for 10 points, chooses volkite charger
>Volkite charger is 10 points anyway
Logic
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>>50644602

> random dudes from each Traitor Legion
> Maybe Dantioch

????
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How does /tg/ feel about the leviathan?

On paper it seems like an expensive short range beat stick

I feel like I could throw him in a drop pod and tell him to rape something with claw and drill

Imo opinion he carves out a niche next to the contemptor by being more vehicle Killy and raping a knight to death before it can attack back

>also it's cool factor is 11/10
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>>50645366
Drop pod is the way to go.
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>>50644903
I've never understood why you have the option for combi-chargers

Combi-cavaliers would make sense. Hell maybe even a combi weapon where the charger is the primary weapon, for more points obviously.
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>>50645504
>Hell maybe even a combi weapon where the charger is the primary weapon
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>>50645366
>being more vehicle Killy and raping a knight to death before it can attack back
Can't a Chainfist Cortus do the same? Or was it two Cortuses?
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>>50636266
Iron Warriors dont use MkVI iirc. Other than that I cant think of any legion refusing an armor mk
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>>50645591
Remember to contact the Apothecary if you experience bitterness lasting more than 4 hours.
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>>50645714
but they were the ones along with the XVIII who had to test the MKVI, so they must have some left
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>>50633896
Imperial Fists are styled after European nobility who fucking loved falconry.
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I've got a question for all those XVI legions players out there, loyalist and traitor alike. So with the release of the Traitors Legion supplement for CSM, the Black Legion got a unique detachment called the Black Legion Speartip, with the highlight special rule being the deep striking reserves can roll for first turn reserves and the warlord and his attached unit can automatically deep strike first turn should you wish. Would you like to see a RoW like this? Should we try brainstorming one?
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>>50645714
>>50645767
Not an outright refusal, but the Iron Warriors would likely maintain very, very few of them because of the fact that it didn't suit their fighting style. Salamanders would probably operate similarly until the Heresy. Afterwards, especially given supply conditions, they'd likely have taken anything they could get.
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>>50645832
>Would you like to see a RoW like this?
Yes, of course, and it should be called Deathwing Protocol
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>>50645714
>Iron Warriors dont use MkVI iirc.
Aaaaahahahaha
>Beakie_Malbon.jpeg
>>50645978
>the Iron Warriors would likely maintain very, very few of them because of the fact that it didn't suit their fighting style
True, but there were a fuckload of Iron Warriors back then, about 180 000 (I don't remember if Gate 42 was before or after the Hrud, so their numbers could have been like ~220 000). 0.5% of 180 000 is still a full Grand Battalion of 900 dudes (they went from 500 to 4000).
I've always thought of IW Seekers and Despoilers as doing trench raids.
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>>50645780
Both liked Falconry, you could say the EC did it too because muh noble europeans, or the UM because they're snobs.
Just sayings, WS were Mongolians first and then even more, while the Fists were Jermani terrans and then mixed with white Inuits from Inwit, the Inuit planet. I'm just saying WS are double falcon, and if Fists love it then they probably learned it from the WS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falconry#History
>The falcon was a symbolic bird of ancient Mongol tribes. Falconry was probably introduced to Europe around AD 400, when the Huns and Alans invaded from the East. Frederick II of Hohenstaufen (1194–1250) is generally acknowledged as the most significant wellspring of traditional falconry knowledge. He is believed to have obtained firsthand knowledge of Arabic falconry during wars in the region (between June 1228 – June 1229). He obtained a copy of Moamyn's manual on falconry and had it translated into Latin by Theodore of Antioch. Frederick II himself made corrections to the translation in 1241 resulting in De Scientia Venandi per Aves. King Frederick II is most recognized for his falconry treatise, De arte venandi cum avibus ("The Art of Hunting with Birds"). Written himself toward the end of his life, it is widely accepted as the first comprehensive book of falconry, but also notable in its contributions to ornithology and zoology. De arte venandi cum avibus incorporated a diversity of scholarly traditions from east to west, and is one of the earliest challenges to Aristotle's explanations of nature.
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>>50645832
>>50646066
Actually, it's called Day of Revelation.
Well, provided you like jump packs it is.
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>>50645832
>Roll for first turn reserves
>Deep striking termies
I call him Perturabo.
But yeah we need more termie teleport without NEEDING to take Orbital Assault.
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>>50646369
I disagree.
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>>50646066
>>50646313
>>50646369
It's nice to other legions want something more like this, i just hate how THE Speartip Legion doesn't have a rite that truly represents that....

>mfw when one of the shootiest, most standoffish legions can alpha strike better then you

But say we make a general right of war that does this, but the terminators have to pay for a teleportation transponder that allows them to first turn deepstrike?
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>>50645366
>yet another dreadnought variant made by FW

It's a lot of points but with decent saving rolls that 4++ is one gaint pain in the ass. It can eassily be kitted to either mow down infantery, punch through anything, or a bit of both. I can only speak having experience from the recieving end, because I think they look ugly.
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>>50645832
You can already do that with terminators inside a dreadclaw and I dont think SoH need help deep striking shit when they get the most acccesss to drop pods.
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>>50645366
cool as shit, and potentially game changing
that said, you could pick up a knight for roughly the same cost when you grab upgrades and the necessary drop pod
you need to have a plan for it due to the specialized nature of its weapons
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>>50646509
The Fists' Hammerblowjob assault should have a rule for half +1 of their deepstrike reserves to arrive turn one.
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>>50646509
Nah, for three reasons.
1. Turn two is the earliest you can get your reserves for a reason.
2. Orbital Strike already does that.
3. It would devalue the teleporter that IF and NL already have.
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What if there was a RoW that let you take a squadron of two rhinos for tacticals and breachers with 11-20 models or, in the breachers two LR proteus.
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>>50646557
>>50646746
>>50646852
Eh, i'll concede on this one. I Thinks it's a cool idea, but i do realize that we can already do that, and the long march lets us do it pretty good as well. Might as well make a CSM compatible army so i could that if people don't wanna play forge world stuff.

>>50646920
hmm...
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>>50646852
>the teleporter that IF and NL already have.
RG should have one as well. Theyre know for clandestine teleporter assaults and have examples of it in book 3. No idea why they didnt get one.
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>>50647066
Sons of Horus rules are basically built for orbital assault anyway.
>Bonus to reserve rolls
>Bonus to being really close to the enemy when shooting
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>>50647094
>No idea why they didn't get one.
Maybe the Alpha Legion stole them when they stole that geneseed.
Then they lost them to the Imperial Fists somehow.
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>>50647111
Or drop assault vanguard where you could have almost your entire army arrive on turn one.
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>>50647111
I know, i just think there is something really cinematic about teleporting in with your praetor and his retinue turn one. But still, as good as orbital assault is for us, there are times where i would love to just deepstrike terminators by themselves without needing drop pods for them or the rest of my army.

>>50647094
i agree with you on that
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>>50647197
>deepstrike terminators by themselves without needing drop pods
I think you might want to reread the rules for orbital assault.
Termie's get deep strike, no drop pods needed.
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Theme song your legion, /hhg/!
> Night Lords
> Nightmare, by Avenged Sevenfold
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>>50647267
Imperial Fist, Siege of Terra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7EbtLb8ok
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>>50647197
>or the rest of my army
>>50647237
It's just a wish list thing
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I wanna make my mk3s into 13th company, got any tips?
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>>50647437
Paint them in SW scheme.
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>>50647094
>RG should have one as well. Theyre know for clandestine teleporter assaults and have examples of it in book 3. No idea why they didnt get one.
As in Arkhal Fal's?
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>>50643633
Someone used that gif as a representation of an Astartes running speed. I think it's pretty accurate.
>>
Might as well ask this as well, but odes anyone think that Abbadon could use a buff? For his price he feels kind of week, not sigi levels, but you get the idea
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I wonder what the Legiones Astartes eat. Maybe a legion-specific meal.
The lady that makes paella hasnt shown up in two weeks. What am I supposed to eat the Sundays?
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>>50647650
Well, we know what Angron and his legion eats.
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>>50647556
I do believe EW would turn him into a badass motherfucker rather than being an overcosted nigga that achieves a mutual kill against someone with a power fist.
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>>50647683
cock?
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>>50647650
There's at least one instance in the books where the primarches have a meal, it's pretty much normal food.

There's also the traitor RG guy that becomes an alcoholic, and before doing an hero in front of Corax, he comments on how hard it is to get drunk having the body of an Astartes.
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>>50647834
>There's also the traitor RG guy that becomes an alcoholic, and before doing an hero in front of Corax, he comments on how hard it is to get drunk having the body of an Astartes.
Whaaaaaaat what book was that?
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>>50647689
And give him a fourth wound, if the 79th Warsmith of traitor legion #8 gets four, then 1st captain of traitor legion #1 should.
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>>50647912
Ravenlord, in the Corax anthology.
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>>50647950
This is amazing. We need drunk marines. An entire chapter.

Marines who aren't the Yiffs.
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>>50647267
>white scars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1pcEtHI_w

Also bat country would work for NL
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>>50647950
That story was a good example of the difference in screening potential marine-worthies before and after Horus. After the HH a lot more attention is spend on somebody's loyalty and character ... at least with most chapters.
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>>50647513
And when Corax uses Deliverers.
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>>50647267
>Night Lords
>Iron Maiden - Run to the Hills
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Dubs picks the next set i buy off forgeworld at 250£ or less.
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>>50648156
One third of a Stormbird.
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>>50648156
Iron Warrior Dreadnought with two chainfists, melta guns, and havoc launcher.
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>>50648169
69 is honorary dubs, right?
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>>50648181
>>50648156
8181 counts as dubs, right?
>>
>>50647515
Now I want to see that GIF with a space marine helmet photoshopped over the bear's head.

>>50648156
Great Unclean One - Greater Daemon of Nurgle

Product Code: 99569915005
>>
>>50648169
>>50648184
I mean, it's not like anon is going to actually pay any attention to what the dubs are, so it might as well be.
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>>50648156
Muh dick.
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>>50648156
3 Vorax Battle-automata.
RIP AND TEAR in cybernetic style.
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>>50648156
Samus.
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>>50648256
Dammit so close!
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>>50648156
Get a Mhara Ghal and paint it in Alpha Legion colors.

It works better under Alpharius than Lorgar for some reason.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>50648156
Ta'unar Supremacy Suit
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>>50648311
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>>50648031
SW hidromiel or whatever they call their valhallan booze has stuff that inhibits a marine's ability to removed toxins. I bet the Death Guard's Poisohol Cups can do the same.
Or maybe the AL's Drakaina-flavored drinks too.
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>>50648311
I wish the Emperor had included an organ to repair my sides in the geneseed.
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>>50648418
>>50648484
Don't think I wouldn't catch you, Al.
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>>50648511
>Al
Wrong one, anon.
>>
>>50648156
>>50648311
Well shit. You could at least have picked something Horus Heresy-related, you dick. I don't even like Tau!!
>>
>>50648565
Unicorn?

>>50648602
Should have chosen my dreadnought I gave you with that 8181.
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>>50648602
That's what you get for /b/-tier dubs decides posts.
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>>50648602
You invoked the sacred dubs. Everything that happened was because of event you set into motion.
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>>50647683
If khornate daemons are anything to go by, Angron loves to eat a whole lot of ass.
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>>50648805
G-gosh, Samus...
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>>50648805
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>>50641803
you can always send me the stuff you don't feel like painting anon, I'll take it of your hands without complaints.
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>>50648819
Nnnngh
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>>50648805
>>50648819
IT IS WELL DONE
T

I
S

W
E
L
L

D
O
N
E
.
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>>50648839
Oh my Khoooooorne
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>>50648156
>>50648311
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>>50648805
>>50648819
>>50648839
Stay strong brothers, don't give in
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>>50648856
Yes yes into the Eye of Terror, lick it clean of all taint
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>>50648876
>>50648856
>>50648839
>>50648819
>>50648805
Man these threads get weird sometimes once we're past the bump limit.
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>>50648805
>>50648819
>>50648839
>>50648856
>>50648876
nothing surprises me anymore
>>
>>50645832
i literarily wrote that as a warlord trait for the luna wolves several threads back - give me money GW!
>>
>>50648915
These ones?
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/User:Unification#Sons_of_Horus
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>>50648856
Just imagine getting swept up in Horus' rebellion. Agreeing that the people who forged the Imperium have the right to rule it, or with your Primarch that the Emperor is a tyrant on par with the Nucerian High-Riders. Fast forward ten thousand years into the Eye of Terror, and in a moment of clarity you realize you have a Khornate tramp-stamp, you live in the ghetto of the galaxy, and your neighbour has a old-ass Deimos Rhino up on blocks on their lawn they won't get rid of. Where did it all go wrong?
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>>50648865
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>>50648937
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/User:Unification#Sons_of_Horus
hey, I didn't know someone saved them! great thanks anon who saved it.
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>>50648915
Shit, now that you mention that, I remember those as well
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>>50649068
>>50649068
new wheat based food substance
also thread
>>
>>50643612
>It does not know where it is
Chuckled/10
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>>50645366

It's like a knight that won't get alpha'd turn 1

It in a drop pod is the ultimate distraction carnifex, except it stands a decent chance of getting its points back
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>>50643546
And you gotta paint all those basic marines as well.
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