GW is reboxing Island of Blood for AOS. What do you think?

>>50585683
I think GW should die in a fire

>>50585683

Are High Elves and Skaven good armies in AoS?

>>50585726
High Elves are very good

Skaven can be good if played properly, but when played poorly half your army runs away and you get crushed.

>>50585683
Reboxing how?

>>50585683

Source?

>>50585904
Renamed "Spire of Dawn" it is a 2nd starter kit for AOS

Circle bases (in addition to the square bases the models usually come with)

Updated rules and points for all models in the box as well as battalions

>>50585904
As in reissuing.

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>>50585984

Thats...kinda cool actually

It's a good set and it'll get more people into AoS.

Good enough for me.

Have no use for bloodbowl.

Don't give a shit

>>50585984
>a second chance to get all those mortars and rat ogres

No, my traitor Guard has enough stuff, I don't need mortar squads and mutant ogryns... Would somebody please think of my credit card!

>>50585984
>in addition to the square bases the models usually come with
thats nice if true

>>50586265
They are reboxing Island of Blood to get rid of extra stock and it's cheaper to just add some circle bases instead of throwing out the squares from every box.

That depends, is the price going to be the same?

>>50587861
Should be $85 USD, same price as the start collecting boxes

I could totally dig this. Unfortunately never had a hobby group whom was interested in warhammer (only 40k). But now with AoS here I found one. This could be a nice entry point. Love the figures.

>>50585683
>What do you think?
Useless starter since GW is going to discontinued all Elves models and units.
>>50585726
Skaven yes, elves rean't even army, they are "legacy" army now and aelves divided to a lot of fireslayers-size armies (1 infantry/cavalry uni, 1 large unit)

>>50588168
Starter set for start collecting box price?

>>50585683
Skaven part are great, elves... well 8th models were shit as fuck, but shoud fit AoS cartoonish WoW-like design.
But I don't get, according to Attia all old HE units wouldn't be updated they will be totally replaced, does it mean that IoB elves are now separate support-army, or gW just lazy to make new actual starter?

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>>50589480
>Useless starter since GW is going to discontinued all Elves models and units.
Are there really people this stupid out there

>>50589642
Hey, they got 2e plastic terminators and 5e 40k starter kits repackaged with Battle for Vedros and associated kits.

>>50589758
What's wrong mr. GW? Why I should buy the starter where half of the box willn/t be updated in future?

>>50589780
So the only reason you buy any models is because eventually they'll put out new updated versions of the same models, invalidating your purchase in the first place?

Are you REALLY this stupid

>>50589797
Nope redshirt, when I buy models for wargame (if AoS could be called wargame, not "abomination of 40k and Warmahorde hatesex") I want to start some army, here ony one actual army and it's skaven.

>>50589885
Why would GW discontinue elves, but not skaven?

>>50590064
>Why would GW discontinue elves, but not skaven?
Skaven are more popular, elves doesn' exist.

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>>50590108
>Skaven are more popular
>elves doesn' exist

>>50590155
>>elves doesn' exist
Aelfs aren't elves, they were builded from elves souls.

>>50585683
I think gryphons are fucking cool and need to be incorporated into more wargames without going full space yiffs with them.

Demigryphs are even cooler.

>>50590198
>Demigryphs are even cooler.
Kys shiteater.

>>50590274
Stay mad - demigryphs are the coolest shit.

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>>50590274

You seem upset. Did your daddy fuck you? Did you love it?

>>50590372
>8th edition models
>coolest

>>50590064
Skavens are copyrightable

>>50585984
Thats pretty dumb.

I see 2 perfect Start Collecting boxes right there. They'd sell more seperately, plus they'd probably make more money.

>>50591151
The Island of Blood figures are pretty much snap fit, and as a result of the low part count the models just don't cost as much as regular models.

>>50585721

this

>>50585726

Nothing but Sigmarines are good armies in Age of Shitmar. Only use for this set is to play WHFB and pretend AoSh never happened

>>50591633
>people are STILL mad about age of sigmar

The eternal butthurt is real

>>50591656
>redshirts still calling Age of Sigmar a full game.

>>50591656
>i liek spess muhreenz :^)
>omg spess muhreenz with crossbows instead of bolters pls take all of my money

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Still got my dude from like 6 years ago, I sometimes use him as a proxy warlock.

Inb4 THIN YOUR PAINTS

>>50591762
>dat model
No wonder why 8th edition killed WHFB.

>>50591656

Yep. Tends to happen when you throw 30+ years of history and lore in the fucking garbage can, and, more importantly, completely invalidate the massive armies people had collected up to that point.

And yeah, I'm aware of the rules they gave so you could keep playing with your old models; those rules are fucking stupid bullshit. LOL LOOK IN A MIRROR AND GET A BONUS, GET A BONUS FOR HAVING A MUSTACHE, GET A BONUS FOR PRETENDING TO RIDE A HORSE, ISN'T THAT WACKY AND FUN? No, GW, it's just fucking lame.

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>>50592032

But isn't it more fun calling elves Aelfs, dwarves Duardin, and orcs Orruks?

>>50592097

Not really. It is however way easier to slap a copyright on them when you slap a "totally not the same thing" name on them. So good job there, GeeDubs!

>>50585683
As someone who has been playing mordheim with a Skaven Vs. HE I would be hype

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>>50592097
>Aelfs
>Duardin
>Orruks

Jesus, who came up with these names? Coach Z?

>>50592199
Of course you will, it's your job.

>>50592199
>mordheim
>static monopose
>mordheim
Fucking liar, you never played Mordheim

>>50592199
>skaven
>mordheim

get to fuck

>>50592314
I am! My new woodelf warband was routed off the table on their first game by a group of rampaging Flagellants.

>>50592265
I was just thinking its a good excuse to split a box cost between two people and split up the units. I could get my rat ogre models, he could replace some old busted up elves

>>50592334
I dont play that kinda skaven homie. Mostly spears. I keep em counted somewhere around 12 with a few giant rats to assist in spots.Black skaven are kinda awesome tho

>>50592353
>I am!
Fuck off, shill.

>>50589885
Actually by your logic, it's 3 seperate Skaven armies. Clans Verminus, Clans Skryre and Clans Moulder. The only thing they share is that they are all Chaos, but the same goes for the High Elves.

However, what is curious is that the Seaguard(now named Spireguard in this box) and Reavers had been renegated to 'Legacy' status, although they have a warscroll + points value for matched play.

>>50592428
>but the same goes for the High Elves.
Nope since skavens are actual army and they will have updates in future, while Elves will be replaced.
>although they have a warscroll + points value for matched play.
So as Tomb Kings, bret and Empire, but they all unplayable against actual armies like Nurgle or Sigmarines.

>>50585683
>2016
>Highborne

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>>50592482
Oops forgot the reaction image

>>50591633
>Nothing but Sigmarines are good armies in Age of Shitmar
Bait, or a retard who's salty because he's too stupid to win at a casual wargame.

>>50592428
.Nope since skavens are actual army and they will have updates in future, while Elves will be replaced.
[citation needed] Oh and it's Skaven, not Skavens you mongoloid. Skaven as an united faction does not exist anymore, as do the High Elves, Dark Elves and Wood Elves for that matter.

>>50592524
It's the Slav warmachine troll/shitposter. He flip flops between supporting AoS and hating on it to get (You)s.

>>50592097
Aelves, Duardin and Orruk are more interesting names.

Dwarfs are disabled people.
Elfs help father Christmas.
Orcs are brown skinned mutants.

>>50592524
A baity retard, or retarded bait. Not sure what the correct form is.

>>50592533
Wood Elves exist as a united faction. Sylvaneth.

Where do you think the soul pods came from?

>>50592544
The medical term is: Argument for post natal abortion.

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>>50592555
>Sylvaneth

Those are not the Wood Elves. Sylvaneth came from the Everqueen grabbing the soulpods of the Treefolk from the old world and planting them in the Realm of Life later.

The Wood Elves in AoS are the Wanderers and they have a strained relationship with the Sylvaneth.

>>50592533
On that note some other correct plural forms that are commonly missed:

>Skaven
>Stormvermin
>Saurus
>Seraphon
>Lizardmen
And the list goes on

>>>50592555
How retarded are you Slav? And if Sylvaneth is how they are going to handle all the sub-factions from now on, then sign me the fuck up cuz that Battletome was quite amazing in both form and function.

>>50592533
>[citation needed]
Does Attia rumors counts?
>Skaven as an united faction does not exist anymore, as do the High Elves, Dark Elves and Wood Elves for that matter.
Except the fact that Skaven still playable as single army, while elves separated by small aries with one infantry/cavalry unit and on big unit monster/war machine.
>>50592542
>more interesting names.
Yeah Orruks totally not Uruks, and dAurDin aren't realted with Tolkien.
>>50592555
Not exactly, Sylvaneth are Space Marines for not-Wood Elves, like Sigmarines for >>50592555
humans.

So, Outcasts and Spite Revenants aren't ex-elves?

>>50592645
Yeah, they aren't elves.

The Everqueen shaped the Revenants to look the same Wood Elves forest protectors of the Old World. They are really reincarnated spirits of tree folks.

The Outcasts and where they came from is a mystery. Most hints say they are treefolks corrupted by bitterness and hate.

>>50592612
How are Elves less playable than Skaven as one army? Neither have specific Battletomes outside of the Grand Alliance stuff in the GHB. My own Skaven army is still a combination of 3 different factions.

>>50592671
>How are Elves less playable than Skaven as one army?
No updates in the future.

>>50592704
Got a factual source on that? And -A rumourmonger said so- is not a source, that's a source for an (unconfirmed) rumour

>>50585683
Is it really? I can't find it on their site.

Anyway, when it came out it was a pretty sweet deal. It didn't have the same enormous bulk of miniatures of the previous box (the one with dwarves and goblins) but the quality was definitely superior, there were more 'special' unit and some pretty sweet models like the hawk-griffin . If the price won't be increased too much it will remain a very sweet deal I guess.

With the Lorthern SeaGuard apparently re-released as 'Spireguard' will they also fix the fact that they are not battleline?

>>50592750
It's also the only source of good looking Warlock Engineers, Mortars and Fire-Throwers. Oh and the Rat Ogres and Packmaster looks way better than the current plastic abominations we have...

>>50592720
There is not even actual source of reboxing of ioB, go away shill.

>>50592574
>cuz that Battletome was quite amazing in both form and function.
Models ugly and rules ar still bad.

>>50592790
Go away Slav

>>50592785
We have screenshot from an excel order sheet for the box, that's a better source then just:

>Hasting/Some other chucklefuck/ said this thing on a forum

>>50592754
>will they also fix the fact that they are not battleline?
Nope because it's not actual army, it's "legacy" which mean "well you can play if you want but it will be like Tau in 5th edition".

>>50592766
Yeah, they're pretty cool. I'm actually tempted to get my hands on them...

>>50592874
Bought two full boxes at the time and split them with my Elf bro. Why they havent released the Warlock Engineer as a seperate kit is beyond me at this point (it's probably because his sprue is not a seperate entity so if they want to release it they are better of with sculpting a whole new one...)

>>50592904
>Bought two full boxes at the time and split them with my Elf bro.
>t.8th editions shiteaters

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>>50585683
>can old thing to make new thing
>new thing is so bad you're not justified to make even newer things and put up old things again
>because new thing only sells when catering to old thing

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>>50592920

>>50592959
>reddit projections

>Age of move into the middle of your Citadel™ Realm of Battle® Gameboard in between your Chaos Dreadhold Helfort® with your Stormcast Eternals® Extremis Chamber® Dracothian Guard® and roll 3+ 4+ for everything

Not even a butthurt ex-Fantasy player but this new setting sucks, I have none of the curiousity for it. The Generals Handbook was a minimal effort in painting over the cracks and they charged £15 for it on top of the £45 "rule"book

>>50592979
you forgot to mention the warhammer age of sigmar® combat gauge and rangefinder®

>>50592979
$45 rulebook?

>>50593008
He's probably confusing the first book as the rulebook

>>50593008

74 USD

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Book-ENG

This is on top of the web of Battletomes and Alliance books. That's GW all over though now, I remember when you got the rulebook for £25-30 and your codex for £10-15 and that did you.

>>50585683
Jee I wonder what starter beginners will choose now

>>50593035
>I wonder what starter beginners will choose now

You mean..?

>>50592217
With a little help from Homsar.

>>50593032
You don't need any of those to play though.or do you consider D&D campaign books to be required to own as well? You'd be a retard but at least you're consistent with your mental disability.

The only book you 'need' is the GBH, and to be fair GW should have released that like a month after the AoS launch.

>>50593061

So this is still the rulebook?

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Rulesheets/warhammer-aos-rules-en.pdf

>>50592561
Is it still abortion if it's post natal?
Why not execution, cleaning the gene pool, or simply euthanasia?

>>50593079
I'd say the General's Handbook is the closest thing to an actual rulebook. Since that contains most of the content that people consider important for an actual rulebook.

But you are most likely just baiting so enjoy the (you)

>>50593043
that island of blood is a way better product

>>50592524
>casual wargame.
>if I pretend something is casual I have the excuse for not even trying
>t.GW

>>50585721
fpbp

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>>50593079

I thought it was all a meme

What the fuck is this

Why do people think this is good

What is wrong with you

>>50593223
>that island of blood is a way better product
It's still shit

>>50591633
I thought undead were the AAA tier unbeatable army

>>50593262
Not enough real heavy infantry.

>>50593262
That's because >>50591633 doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. They are just here for mememagic and shitposting about a game they don't play and pretend to not care about.

>>50593282
>They are just here for mememagic and shitposting about a game they don't play
Undead have cool monsters, especially in their overpowered formations, but they still sucks against armies with heavy infantry AND monsters like Nurgle or Sigmarines.

>>50593294
Aren't nagash and mournghuls the best units in the game? And can they still summon obscene amounts of infantry or did that get changed?

>>50593439
>Aren't nagash and mournghuls the best units in the game?
Nope.
>And can they still summon obscene amounts of infantry
Nope, summon rules was changed.
The poit is that undrad doesn't have good battlelines and heavy infsntry, while nurgle and stormcasts with their infantry will crush anyone like 40 white lions with World Dragon banner.

>>50593700
How are skeleton warriors bad compared to clanrats and other chaff infantry? They just need to stay near a Death hero. And check your goddamn spelling before you post something

>>50585683
I hope you mean Yslynnd of Bloodrendgoresecration

>>50593700
Slav pls

>>50592440
> Tomb Kings
> unplayable
Try fucking broken

>>50593959
>How are skeleton warriors bad compared to clanrats and other chaff infantry?
Where the fuck I talked about rats? I mean Nurgle mortals (former WoC).
Let me make it clearer
Undead:
- shit infantry, but cool monsters
Sigmarines&Nurgle:
- great battleline infantry, awesome heavy infantry, cool monsters
When Undead player shose infantry he just need them to fulfill FOC, when Sigmarines player chgosing unfantry all his untis will strong in game.

>>50594562
>choose infantry
fix

>>50585683
>What do you think?
AoS players will defend this piace of crap.

>>50594562
Wait, wait, Age of Smegmar now has FOC?

Perhaps if they fix the fluff into somethinng bearable GW might get my money after all.

>>50594633
>Wait, wait, Age of Smegmar now has FOC?
40k-like, but with more models usually.

>>50589480
>Useless starter since GW is going to discontinued all Elves models and units.
What?
Source?

I would buy this if it's true

>>50593971
Underrated

>>50595010
Why people never read the thread?
>What?
Attia

>>50595398
Post the source then faggot since I can't remember reading anything of that order on her website within the last few months.

>>50591633
>Nothing but Sigmarines are good armies in Age of Shitmar.
Holy shit, I thought I'd seen shitty players but you take the cake. Stormcast are mediocre in the meta at best, what the hell are you playing that you keep losing to them?

>>50592704
And that makes them better how? Tomb Kings are a literally dead army, and they're still one of the more powerful ones in the game.

>>50595845
>And that makes them better how?
It makes them worthy to invest.
>Tomb Kings are a literally dead army, and they're still one of the more powerful ones in the game.
It's just VC army withy some TK monsters.

>>50592032
The joke rules were a sendoff to WHFB. None of the actual AOS rules have this.

Are you really this stupid

>>50592555
>i dont read the fluff but im gonna shitpost about it anyway

>>50592952
They have been reboxing WHFB stuff for the last 1.5 yearsa into new factions. How is this any different from the lizardmen, orcs, ogres, etc.

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>>50593249
>more pages of rules means better game

>>50593700
>The poit is that undrad doesn't have good battlelines and heavy infsntry
>what are skeleton chariots
>what are necropolis knights
laughingsettra.jpg

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>>50594562
>Undead:
>- shit infantry

nah

>>50597230
>>what are skeleton chariots
>>what are necropolis knights
"Legacy" units without models from non-existing army.
>>50597251
>nah
D - denial.

>>50590448
>not liking sphinxes
get out now before my king gets angry

>>50592612
duardin is the most acceptable name
at least it doesn't look like a blatant note!elf not!orc

>>50597383
Fuck off kid.
>>50597522
>at least it doesn't look like a blatant note!elf not!orc
But it does look like that, because it's literally Durin with A and D

>>50597538
durin=/=dwarf
plus considering the vast amount of thing GW rip off, stealing from tolkien isn't the worse idea
middle earth dwarves are pretty cool, so is durin
so will be duardin ?

>>50595398
A name isn't a source and I see a lot of rumours attributed to her that she never said or is being wildly misquoted.

So do you want to give a source now?

>>50596020
>It makes them worthy to invest.
How does that relate to them being more playable?

>It's just VC army withy some TK monsters.
What are you on about? The Tomb Kings PDF has every model of the Tomb Kings army, nothing VC about it.

>>50596020
>It's just VC army withy some TK monsters.
I didn't know that VC had access to chariots, necropolis knights, tomb scorpions, liche priests, settra

>>50592533
Hahaha skaven never existed as a unified army.. Rules for chieftain reflects this

>>50592818
Idk they are releasing another handbook..

>>50585683
>Not reboxing AOS for Fantasy

Poor decision-making indicative of low morality and general cowardice.

>>50598817
>supporting a new product is "cowardice"

this is beyond retard

you can call it retard 2

>>50598847
AOS is a cowardly product. It's ethos is to copy a success as much as possible just to avoid having to confront their own mistakes.

The settings defining element, it's retarded naming conventions, are primarily motivated by the fear that someone will come along and provide a better product with a similar name.

>>50599079

AOS's names are no more dumb than anything featured in WHFB

>>50585984

> Includes squares

Now I'm interested.

>>50591151
The models are mixed in sprues, so you can't have a clean break between the two factions. I remember sharing a IoB box and it took some time to find all the pieces and separate them from the sprues.

>>50592032
You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.

Time ago I got most of a sprue from this in a bitz bag, I had never properly looked into the IoB kit.

I got the sprue with the elf mage(minus a few parts), skaven mortar teams, and some other misc rats on there. Never knew there was an entire gryphon and rat ogres in this, wish I got those since I could find tons of uses for those parts.

>>50599079
>It's ethos is to copy a success as much as possible
And yet one of the greatest critiques against AoS is how little it resembles WHFB.

How does that work?

As long as there isn't a price hike involved, this is a good thing.

>>50599921
vampire=>soulblight
elf=>aelf
orc=>orruk
yes they are

>>50601673
Not entirely sure, but they sure did manage, didn't they?

>>50598623
>How does that relate to them being more playable?
Yep. You don't starting army who will be unplayable after few updates.
>The Tomb Kings PDF has every model of the Tomb Kings army, nothing VC about it.
Without any models.

>>50601673
>How does that work?
WHFB armies looks stupid and unimportant in super-magic shit, why the fuck I will want collect usual mortals army if they totally irrelevant in setting.

>>50598661
They have, since it's Undead army now.
>>50601691
>this is a good thing.
>t. Kevin

>>50585683
They realised their mistake and are trying to go back one step.

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>>50604478
Please be joking

>>50598661
You can build your force from a single grand alliance. If you're order, you can have elvish archers and bretonnian knights, with stormcast as your hammer.

>>50601673
They're copying success. WHFB was fucking barren when they killed it.
>>50601691
There likely won't be since even if materials cost more they're using old molds, so they don't have to pay for those. At least as long as the molds aren't fucked

>>50606193
What's wrong? All races now have their wn space marines, humans have sigmarines, orcs have Iron Horde, dwarfs have super-runic fireslayers.
>>50606503
>You can build your force from a single grand alliance.
So how it's changes the fact that only playable undead is GW Death which is "VC with some TK monsters"?

>>50605908
What mistake? The one that made one of their product lines that made less money than goddamn paints and paintbrushes into something that actually sells to more than 20 people a month, globally?

>>50606594
>The one that made one of their product lines that made less money than goddamn paints and paintbrushes into something that actually sells to more than 20 people a month, globally?
>source: my ass
Try harder shill.

>>50606709
It must be so nice to be a fool. Everyone who disagrees with you is OBVIOSULY a shill, even if there's blatant evidence pointing to the fact that they're right. But they can't be right since they're a shill. Right?

Every day I wake up and am reminded that AoS is real. Do people actually like this fucking meme lord setting? I miss the grit of Fantasy, it was infinitely better than this wanker shit.

>>50606824
>even if there's blatant evidence
Such as..?

>>50606581
But I don't fucking LIKE space marines! If I wanted bobble headed buzz lightyears, I would play 40k.

>>50585721
But they are just starting to get good again.

>>50606877
Half the year's releases were AoS and the last two sets of new sculpts had shit sold out in the pre order phase? Granted, one of those is ironjawz so you'll no doubt just say "But that was all for 40k conversions" but i've NEVER seen an ironjawz thing for 40k, and I also fail to see WHY people would do that since orks are shit in that game

>>50606906
I don't keep up with it, but isn't Privateer press turning shit now too?

>>50606925
>Half the year's releases were AoS and the last two sets of new sculpts had shit sold out in the pre order phase?
Only Ironjaws.
>but i've NEVER seen an ironjawz thing for 40k,
because you never saw 40k games.

>>50606906
>But they are just starting to get good again.
Hi Kevin, fuck off Kevin, you aren't better than Kirby.

>>50606948
Sylvaneth too I think kurnoths and alarielle sold out.

>>50606967
>implying rountree is not our lord and saviour.

Why do people seem so determined to deny how much things have improved.

>>50606925
>Half the year's releases were AoS and the last two sets of new sculpts had shit sold out in the pre order phase?
So how it's related with
>The one that made one of their product lines that made less money than goddamn paints and paintbrushes
Also, about
>into something that actually sells to more than 20 people a month,
1) Calth outsold the whole AoS.
2) WHFB saved the last GW annual report while GW revenue dropped again.

>>50606503
That's not what we are talking about here though.

He said the reason TK are strong is because they are a VC army with select monsters from TK, and that's objectively wrong. TK have a ton of amazing units in AOS and they are one of the strongest armies.

>>50607033
I... Wait what? can you not see the correlation between shit selling out BEFORE it even is officially released and a product doing well?

>>50592524
>a retard who's salty because he's too stupid to win at a casual wargame
>>50595815
>what the hell are you playing that you keep losing to them?

I don't play age of shitmar because it is shit made for braindead 40k spess muhreen-addicts/battered wife GW-apologists like yourself

>>50592536
>everyone who hates age of shitmar is a slav!
>everyone who complains about kingdom death prices is an argentine!
>everyone who starts a That Girl thread is an MRA!

/tg/ memes are shit desu

>>50606888
But kids love them, tha's why they made 8+ game
>>50607086
>can you not see the correlation between shit selling out BEFORE it even is officially released and a product doing well?
Shill pls, provide any proofs about
>>The one that made one of their product lines that made less money than goddamn paints and paintbrushes

>>50607066
>and that's objectively wrong.
Show me TK in AoS, or wait they didn't exsit in game.

>>50607157
Page seven of GW's financial report from 2015-16, last scentence of the fourth paragraph from the bottom
To quote "we finished the year with
sales of
Warhammer: Age of Sigmar
at a higher rate than Warhammer has enjoyed for several years"
Now It's unclear if they mean several years COMBINED or not, but it matters little either way

>>50607168
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-tomb-kings-en.pdf

They have points for every model in the generals handbook so they are legal in matched play

>>50594601

AoS players will defend literally anything. If they weren't retarded, they wouldn't play AoS

>>50607021
>how much things have improved.
The models are still ugly, prices are still high and rules are still bad.
For what I've seen they just trying to take control over community by replacing community sites and events by their own official, because their product cannot hold the audience without artifical isolation. They still doesn't have good game-designer and play-testing team and they begging players to fix the broken rules for them. Star Collecting is totally "Kirby"-tier boxes, a lot of models without useful things (super-heavy, enough heavy infantry or additional weapon).
yes, Traitor Legion supliment looks interesting, but that's all.

>>50607188
>To quote "we finished the year with
>sales of
>Warhammer: Age of Sigmar
>at a higher rate than Warhammer has enjoyed for several years"
We need numbers shill, in one of his old preambles Kirby said that Specialist Games was selling bad and games were unpopular, when Kirby was repplaced as CEO revealed that it was logistics fuck up, which killed Specialist Games.
>>50607201
yeah and where is models? Where is future updates?

>>50607239
Least we're smarter than 40k players
>>50607243
It's almost like start collecting sets are intended to get people started in the game and be expanded upon... I wonder what other company does something like that and purposely makes those boxes missing key units so you have to buy more from them

>>50607279
Where are the numbers that said betrayal at calth sold more than all of AoS? chances are they'd be in the same document, no?
>>50607279
TK got axed and will have no future updates, but in return you get a few years of glory since your army is now EXTREMELY good in the new game.
Or would you prefer them to go the way of the sisters and be unofficially dead

>>50606594
Nice argument mr. Normie, now go get the fuck out of our board.

>>50607375
>but in return you get a few years of glory
Sonce when "cuckoldry" starts mean "glory"? Are you a Anglo?

>>50607332
>are intended to get people started in the game and be expanded upon...
So they are totally useless, since you still needs to buy all important stuff separate. That's why I called them Kirby-tier boxes.

>>50607375
>you get a few years of glory
Broken rules in game for 8 y.o. kids aren't glory.

>>50607548
note how I said SOME things. Unlike the boxes of other companies there ARE actually good things in them, and some of the boxes are just straight up good

>>50607519
"Glory" meaning "Your army is now crazy strong at the cost of not having the ability to buy anything new. Enjoy
>>50607634
Tomb kings anon. Not Tau

>>50607763
>Your army is now crazy strong at the cost of not having the ability to buy anything new. Enjoy
>We axed your army from setting and modellines, but you still can play in our " throw 3+ to win"game, pls support it
That's meaning of cuckoldry

>>50607810
>"throw 3+ to win"game
Nah

>>50607810
And here I thought cuckoldry is when your wife gets fucked by another man

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>>50607763
As a long time TK player...yeah it felt really good knowing that all the years of painting, modeling, buying got thrown in the shitter...but hey you can play as "death rattle" in this shit tier pdf and roll +4 against everything.

Thanks GW, I appreciate it.

>>50607912
It's not like gw went in and broke your fucking models. Have you even given the new game a chance or are you just shitting on it cause it's different?

>>50607912
If you take a 2nd look you will quickly realize that tomb kings are much more than just "roll 4+ against everything" like this image here >>50597251

>>50607949
Yeah I grabbed a handful of dice and counted all the +3s.

Wasnt that fun

>>50607876
Nice denial Kevin, but yes, your Eternal Anglo game-designers are bad as your SJW sculptors.

>>50607912
>tfw played SWG for years
>tfw they shut down the server
>tfw lost all my shit, I have none of it left
and I still didn't cry as hard as you

>>50608030
So what, GWhore?

>>50608004
Ok. So yo haven't even read the rules and just listened to the salt elementals in the WHFB forums

>>50590174
>elves reincarnates from elves aren't elves.


wot?

>>50608047
>everyone who disagrees with me works for a company i dont like

Even if you're being ironic this is beyond stupid.

>>50608030
I've seen people who have lost their families cry less than these people.

>>50607881
>And here I thought cuckoldry is when your wife gets fucked by another man
Well kind of yes, but cuckoldry also means enoying the things which was created to humiliate you or mad by peoples who humiliates you.
>>50608049
>g-g-guys I swear the rules are good, 3+ is very-very fun game
>>50608060
They aren't elves, they were builded from what once was elves souls.
>>50608030
>>50608068
>If yo dislikes it stop talking abd abut it, and just shut up and support it!
You have to go back,

>>50608126
>talking bad about it
fucking phone

>>50608126
I want /v/immigrants to go and stay go

>>50608191
>I want /v/immigrants to go and stay go
I want GWshills to leave /tg/, after all GW even made special forum for you, where none can said that your game is bad.

>>50608212
and yet warhammer, and thus by extension GW, is the only reason this board exists in the first place
I'm also curious why you are in this thread when you have such a burning hatred for AoS? Surely you wouldn't just waste your time just to complain?

Don't bother replying to this though, we both know it would result in repeated uses of the word cuck, shill or fag. That and the fact I'm done

>>50608288
>and yet warhammer, and thus by extension GW, is the only reason this board exists in the first place
Times change
>I'm also curious why you are in this thread when you have such a burning hatred for AoS?
Why not? It's not GW private forum. If it's shit /tg/ will say it's shit, cancer aren't welcomed here.

>>50597139
Read and try to understand what he was saying again, before calling other people stupid.

>>50608126
First. AoS is not a personal attack on you. It was created since 30 years of bloat, combined with an absurdly hostile community had all but killed WHFB.
Second. You have yet to give any reason as to why AoS' rules may or may not be bad other than "Muh 3+" which is literally meaningless since you didn't even bother to explain it. and I doubt you will bother to so I won't ask. In fact, I'll do your job and explain it for you, as you
"3+ 3+ 3+ 3+ 3+"
Third. This is LITERALLY an AoS thread, you're the one that needs to go back. If you don't like AoS, fucking ignore it. Hide the thread or just suck it up and not pay attention. You have a number of tools at your disposal to deal with this but you instead choose to whine and poop your diapers since that's apparently what you WANT to do

>>50608461
>Read and try to understand
You are asking too much from young Google.

>>50608327
You are proof that cancer is apparently welcomed here.

>>50608497
>combined with an absurdly hostile community had all but killed WHFB.
>i-i-it's al community fault
8th edition and ugly models were made by GW, not by community.
>Second. You have yet to give any reason as to why AoS' rules may or may not be bad other than "Muh 3+"
Okay, the rules are bad because it's trying to be Warmahine, but without real synegries (since all synergies could be easily br broken by heavy infantry spam one of OP armies) and 40k without diversity of weapons and units types, where everything ending with mess on the middle of table, where almost any units can kill any other unit just throwing 3+.
>, you're the one that needs to go back
Again, it's not GW private forum, so come on shill, make me leave.
>Hide the thread or just suck it up and not pay attention. You have a number of tools at your disposal to deal with this but you instead choose to whine and poop your diapers since that's apparently what you WANT to do
>if you dislke it, just shut up yo shouldn't talking bad about muh GW

>>50608519
>You are proof that cancer is apparently welcomed here.
But I'am not OP.

>>50607135
>Same Bad English
>Same posting style
>He even admits it

And it's even that he hates AoS, he changes his opinion to troll other threads and I got the archive links to prove it.

So why are you covering for a troll?

>>50608940
It isn't even*

>>50608940
>he changes his opinion to troll other threads
>IT WEREN'T WE!
kek
Also
May be because there are more than 1 anon dislikes nu-GW.

>>50609034
>tries to change his style
>still bad English

Like I said it's all in the archives. You are not fooling anyone.

>>50609066
>It's all the same anon, it's all the same REEEE!
You should visit the doctor, shill.

>>50609107
dat denial

>>50609117
S - schizophrenia

>>50607243
Of course prices are still high you have a board you have to fight against there

But the start collecting sets are a start and there has not been time to fix the rules yet.

Also specialist games and (i am told) improved white dwarf

Nobody cares if the models are not perfect.

>>50607746
Oddly enough wizards intro pack decks are improving a little.
Getting a lot more greedy with all the op mythics though.

>>50609308
>Of course prices are still high you have a board you have to fight against there
>Nobody cares if the models are not perfect.
Shill in nutshell.
>But the start collecting sets are a start and there has not been time to fix the rules yet.
>starters shouldn't be effective!

>Also specialist games
Yes, 100 $ for board game with outdated rues, ar perfect. I love Blood Bowl, but today ruleset feels old and clumsy.

>improved white dwarf
It's still small GW brouchure.

>>50607375
>Or would you prefer them to go the way of the sisters and be unofficially dead
But TK are officially dead with FB.

>>50592568
>Free people
kek, so the whole point of AoS is fighting for the free and equal society?

>>50592568
So how this cuck nation with stone-age weapone and without divine magic supposed to be relevant in the setting where only Gods are iportant? Or they just Planetary Defence Force faction?

>decide to give AoS a try
>apparently now i can build the army i always wanted and still be competitive because the rules are so very balanced(mostly because of the lack of rules)
>play a game
>get obliterated because the game seems to all about synergy and i don't have any of that anymore because GW arbitrarily chopped my army into smaller "factions"
>fuck this game

>>50610287
>the rules are so very balanced
Lol no.
>because the game seems to all about synergy
Game all about strong and weak armies.

>>50610334
that's what i get for listening to shills honeyed words

>>50586124
There's also that hero character that'd make a good Tech Priest, and the High Elf mage would probably make a good Sorceror of Tzeentch...

>>50592568
>dat fuff
Ladies and gentlemans, allow me to introduce you "numales: the army", from the united caliphate!

>>50610574
How long did you have to think to get that contradiction in a single sentence?

>>50611179
>contradiction in a single sentence?
Where?

>>50610548
Already got Ikit Claw for that. With a Necron Destroyer head fitted with some filters to give him a nice techno-helmet/face mask, removing the Skaven banner pole and painting his tail into a mechadendrite made him into a nice Warpsmith. Looks nice leading a squad of Chaos androids (Necrons converted into a squad of basic bolter Marines).

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>>50609308
>Of course prices are still high you have a board you have to fight against there
Prices are UNREASONABLY high. This shit right here is 80 USD. Try and justify it.

>But the start collecting sets are a start and there has not been time to fix the rules yet.
Are you justifiying a company for releasing an unfinished product at high prices as if it was ready for market?
Also fuck that noise, there's been plenty of time. A game designer team could come up with balanced rules for a good game in a month, let alone for a game with rules as simplisti and idiot-friendly as AoS.

>Nobody cares if the models are not perfect.
So what you're saying is the rules aren't fixed yet, the models aren't perfect, but still they're justified for putting them out already and with such ridiculous prices?

>>50611745
>This shit right here is 80 USD. Try and justify it.

Don't remind me...

I looked at that and was like "cool, that'd make an awesome Ascension Apotheosis DP models for CSM, just Chaos it up." Then saw the price and was like "well, there goes my smile."

>>50609442
>It's still small GW brouchure.
Objectively false

Keep shitposting it gives me a raging bonner

>>50612868
WD has always been ( well for the last 26 years ) a Catalog with the odd article. Saying its not is kinda silly.

>>50613418
Calling it a brochure is just wrong

>>50613473
>Calling it a brochure is just wrong
Because the only purpose of WD isn't promoting GW stuff?

>>50613589
Of course it's just a big advertisement for GW products because why the fuck would it be anything else

But brochure implies that it is a small document. WD is a monthly magazine.

>>50585721
+1

>>50585683
It's good models, well-sculpted, and the gryphon is an excellent conversion base. So, I'm glad it's still available to people?

>>50613643
>because why the fuck would it be anything else
Dunno, may be because original WD was magazine about sci-fi, fantasy and hobby wiothout "only GW brilliant miniatures"
>But brochure implies that it is a small document. WD is a monthly magazine.
Oh sorry, I mean content value, it's still small brouchre for GW stuff.

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Oh shit its real

>>50615148
So what? It's still shit.
Also
>8th edition
>classic

>>50615765
>8e
>Released over six years ago
>Not classic

>>50616145
>shitty models and bad rules
>classic
You have to go back to your general.

>>50616186
What's wrong with the models?

>>50616219
Ugly cartoonish design.

>>50615148
>dat arcan'dor on the background
>74 models
So 1k USD I guess.

>>50616250
$85

>>50616290
Well still aren't great for one army, where most of models are useless infantry.

>>50616233
What's so ugly about them?
I think they're some of the nicest Fantasy models GW put out.

>>50616250
Probably not, it's a starter.
Also the Arcan'dor is much more symmetric and controlled growth than that.

>>50616307
It's two armies, skaven & high elves

>>50616334
High Elves are legacy army. Just like Tomb Kings (no models, no rules in thje future), so it's only one actual army.

>>50616354
>High Elves are legacy army. Just like Tomb Kings (no models, no rules in thje future)

Aelves will be getting a release, so High Elves still have a future.

>>50616316
>What's so ugly about them?
Proportions, design of weapon and armor.
>I think they're some of the nicest Fantasy models GW put out.
Well what can I say, Age of Sigmar customers are one of the tastless people in Warhammer community.

>>50616397
>Well what can I say, Age of Sigmar customers are one of the tastless people in Warhammer community.

I don't even play AoS. These are models created for WHFB, and were popular when they were released.

>>50616395
>Aelves will be getting a release,
And they will be totally new armies (not real armies, just shitton of small armies like fireslayers).
>so High Elves still have a future.
Nope all models will be discontinued and the rules for units wouldn't be updated in the future.
Also, they aren't super-magical soldiers, so they have no future by default.

>>50616427
>These are models created for WHFB
And that's how 8th edition killed WHFB, bad rules which force players to build large deathstars and ugly models.

>>50616433
>And they will be totally new armies

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on what aesthetic they choose to go with.

>Nope all models will be discontinued

They're just released.

>Also, they aren't super-magical soldiers, so they have no future by default.

There's plenty of stuff that isn't magical super soldiers.

>>50616445
>ugly models

They're nicer looking models than previous editions.
Just compare the spearmen in the box to the old gorilla hands.

>>50616471
>Maybe, maybe not. Depends on what aesthetic they choose to go with.
You are fucking idiot or shill, there will totally new army with new units which is unrelated with old HE army.
>They're just released.
They were repackaged
>There's plenty of stuff that isn't magical super soldiers.
Yeah and they are important just like PDF in 40k.

>>50616504
>They're nicer looking models than previous editions.
With totally changed design.
>Just compare the spearmen in the box to the old gorilla hands.
Because old spearmen are 4/5 th editions stuff.
In 8th GW already have technology to make them look good, but instead of this they starts spamming carttonish MMO-like shit for every faction.

>>50616512
>there will totally new army with new units which is unrelated with old HE army.

You say that, but if the aesthetics are similar enough then there's nothing stopping a proper synergy.

>They were repackaged

Yes. So why do you think they will be discontinued even though they just go re released?

>Yeah and they are important just like PDF in 40k.

There are plenty armies in 40k.

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>>50615148

I would of preferred new sculpts and kits to repackages. I already HAVE island of blood (it was my first box actually) I don't really need another one.

>>50616538
>With totally changed design.

The designs are actually very similar. They just have crisper details.

>Because old spearmen are 4/5 th editions stuff.

And it shows. The newer Elves fit nicely with classical aesthetic but made with superior technology.

>>50616576
>there's nothing stopping a proper synergy.
You mean what?
>Yes. So why do you think they will be discontinued even though they just go re released?
It's not me.
>There are plenty armies in 40k.
In 40k, not in AoS where all what isn't super-magical are irrelevant.
>>50616595
Fuck off AoS general.

>>50616604
It's not for you then, numbskull.

They're called starter kits for a reason.

>>50616354
>High Elves are legacy army
No they aren't like the TK

TK are gone from production entirely, high elves were split to smaller factions.

>>50616609
>The designs are actually very similar.
Not design, aesthetic.
>The newer Elves fit nicely with classical aesthetic but made with superior technology.
And with fucked up cartoonish design, that's what killed WHFB.
>>50616619
>They're called starter kits
They aren't even 1k army.

>>50616433
if you can see the future why are you wasting your time on this chinese message board instead of solving crimes and winning lotteries

>>50616635
>TK are gone from production entirely
And so HE will.
>high elves were split to smaller factions.
Not high elves, highborne were splited.

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>>50616648
>g-g-guys they will support all old armies,. believe me, just keep buy and support GW
>TK axed

>>50616651
What the fuck are you talking about? High Elves = Highborne

Fuck off retard

>>50616660
damn dude epic greentext and stutter

oh shit AND a jew !?!?!

you win this argument, i tip my hat to you!

>>50616615
>You mean what?

If the new Elves look similar to High Elves then the two can be used together without it being weird.

>In 40k, not in AoS where all what isn't super-magical are irrelevant.

I think that's wrong. Regualr humans, orcs and skaven still exist.

>>50616637
>Not design, aesthetic.

The aesthetic is all but unchanged. Heroic scale, robes, cone helms.

>And with fucked up cartoonish design, that's what killed WHFB.

But they were less cartoonish than perviously.
If cartoonishness was a factor they would have had to kill Fantasy sooner.

>>50616669
>What the fuck are you talking about? High Elves = Highborne
1) Fluffwise nope, their race was builded from what remain from elves souls.
2) Rulewise, nope, it will be totally new army/armies with totally new units and rules.
>>50616683
>If the new Elves look similar to High Elves then the two can be used together without it being weird.
Of course both AoS and 8th ed models are ugly as fuck, but since you are AoS players it will be hard to understood it.
>Regualr humans, orcs and skaven still exist.
So as Planetary Defence Force in 40k.

>>50616725
>Of course both AoS and 8th ed models are ugly as fuck

How can you say that in comparison to earlier models?

>So as Planetary Defence Force in 40k.

No, you can't play as pdf in 40k.

>>50616397
>all GW minis are ugly and cartoonish

Ok, so what are you doing here, exactly?

>>50616723
>Heroic scale, robes, cone helms.
In 4/5th edttion good truth scale was real only in individual miniatures, not in mass prduction (jokes about GW prices will born much earlier).
>But they were less cartoonish than perviously.
yeah because of lack of technologies, in 8th they have technologies, but chose to switch into cartoonish design.
>If cartoonishness was a factor they would have had to kill Fantasy sooner.
It was one of reasons why people turned off from WHFB in 8th edition.
>>50616749
>How can you say that in comparison to earlier models?
Easily, since I am not AoS player.
>No, you can't play as pdf in 40k.
Yes, because such factions will be unpopular, but AoS isn't popular outside GW stores,.
But actually i talked about fluff.

>>50616784
Because it's not GW private board

>>50616799
>In 4/5th edttion good truth scale was real only in individual miniatures

GW does not use true scale, they use heroic scale.

>yeah because of lack of technologies, in 8th they have technologies, but chose to switch into cartoonish design.

They did not switch design. They are an update with crisper detail.

>It was one of reasons why people turned off from WHFB in 8th edition.

I disagree. Models from 7th were no less cartoonish.

>>50616799
>Easily, since I am not AoS player.

We're talking about Fantasy minis here, not AoS ones.

>But actually i talked about fluff.

In fluff the PDF is very important.

>>50616862
>GW does not use true scale, they use heroic scale.
Nope they use it when true scale was expensive in mass production, then they switched to cartoonish design when they true scale becomes useful without losing quality.
>They did not switch design.
They didn't swittch (it happened in AoS) aesthetic, but switched design while all old arts showed their models in true scale (well excep Chaos and orcs).
>I disagree. Models from 7th were no less cartoonish.
AoSpolayer pls, try to goolge old Dark Elves Executioners.
>>50616903
>We're talking about Fantasy minis here, not AoS ones.
We are talking about 8th edition.
>In fluff the PDF is very important.
They are less important than single IG regiment from Nonameus planet of LiterallyWho system.

>>50616946
>We are talking about 8th edition.

Yes, Fantasy, not AoS.

>They are less important than single IG regiment from Nonameus planet of LiterallyWho system.

The IG codex says the PDf are just as brave as the Guard.

>>50616637
>not even a thousand points
None of the starter kits have 1000 point armies

Not the main aos kit, for either side, not the start collecting for any faction, not dark vengeance, not kill team, not battle for vedross...

It gets players started. It is not a two full armies in a box and isn't meant to be

>>50585683
Looks cool. If I wanted to get into AoS I'd buy it.

>>50616977
>Yes, Fantasy, not AoS.
And I said that 8th edition was point of no return when design totally switched to cartoonish MMO-like shit, the AoS just wasn't bound by old aesthetic.
>The IG codex says the PDf are just as brave as the Guard.
And they are still irrelevant in setting.
>>50617002
>starters shouldn't be useful!
Whaterver you say Kevin.

>>50592217
The legal department

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>>50616946
>Nope they use it when true scale was expensive in mass production

No, they have simply always used it.
Their reason is they believe true scale looks worse on the table top. Things like weapons are too small and outlines are too vague.

>but switched design while all old arts showed their models in true scale (well excep Chaos and orcs).

Art is irrelevant, this is models we're talking about. They kept the same design and aesthetic, just updated.

>AoSpolayer pls, try to goolge old Dark Elves Executioners.

Yes, look. Big huge heads. Massive swords. Very cartoony.

>>50617048
>it isn't a full army therefore it isn't useful
>overwhelming newcomers with the 70+ models for 1000 points right when they start is the only way to be!

>>50597213
>shit rules are ok because they are few

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>>50617067
These look almost identical to Blighted Nyss Legionnaires.

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>>50617048
>And I said that 8th edition was point of no return when design totally switched to cartoonish MMO-like shit

That's not true though.

How are these more cartoony

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>>50617048
>>50617097

Than these?

>>50617112
dem hands

AoS babbies are either lying or having fun incorrectly

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>>50617067
>No, they have simply always used it.
>says AoS players who never played in wargames before 2015
>They kept the same design and aesthetic, just updated.
Aesthetic, design was changed.
>Yes, look. Big huge heads. Massive swords. Very cartoony.
You are right, much more cartoony than this, or your precious sigmarines
>How are these more cartoony Than these?
Your first pictures was released in 2010.

>>50617112
Don't waste your time bud. This may not have started out as a troll threat, but slav cunt has just derailed it. he's just a tosser who will argue and drag it down. lesson for the day, don't feed the troll.

>>50617151
>Aesthetic, design was changed.

Design is basically the same.

>You are right, much more cartoony than this

They're about the same. Those Executioners maybe look more cartoony to your eye because of they way they are painted. Lots of non metallic metals.

>>50617151
>Your first pictures was released in 2010.

Irrelevant. Cartoony was not a problem because the models were cartoony before 8e.

>>50617091
who are you quoting
nobody said this

>>50617195
It's thread like these that make me wish for Nazi mod's return.

>>50617204
>Design is basically the same.
It doesn't fit the artwork true sscale, while in 8th they could do it, design changed.
>They're about the same.
Perhaps for man who never saw both of them untill now,
>Lots of non metallic metals.
Unlike you shill, I hold both of them in my hands, heads are really bigger, and the swords is much larger and impractical then old, so as WoC-size axe and banner.
And let's not forget about static monopose.

Why did you fags let WarmaSlav ruin this thread for so long without anyone even noticing or calling him out?

>>50617236
>Irrelevant
Because..?
>Cartoony was not a problem because the models were cartoony before 8e.
Not cartoony, heroic, because true scale wasn't great and was expensive as fuck.
>>50617250
Then may be you should return to your GW forum

>>50617298
>It doesn't fit the artwork true sscale

It's not supposed to.
GW do their minis in heroic scale, not to fit the artwork. Design mostly unchanged.

>Perhaps for man who never saw both of them untill now,

I've seen both long before now. There is little difference beyond the heads.

>heads are really bigger, and the swords is much larger and impractical

Both have big heads and impractical swords.

>And let's not forget about static monopose.

The metals are static monopose as well.

>>50617324
>only one person dislikes AoS

>>50617340
>Because..?

Why should it be relevant? If the old ones didn't put people off Fantasy then the new ones sure wouldn't.

>Not cartoony, heroic, because true scale wasn't great and was expensive as fuck.

Yes cartoony. Heroic scale is cartoony and heroic scale is the scale GW uses, it does not use true scale.

>>50617354

>The metals are static monopose as well.

here is exactly where you lost any credibility. Metal executioners show a flow and different moments of the blow, plastics just carry the weapon.

You have no tools to discuss this topic and being taken seriously.

>>50617354
>I've seen both long before now.
>AoS player
>seen old executioner
Sure
>Both have big heads and impractical swords.
Old executioner sword was impractical because it was tall, while 8th edition shit have even blade form from MMO
>The metals are static monopose as well.
>>50617067
>static
>monopose

>>50617376
>If the old ones didn't put people off Fantasy then the new ones sure wouldn't.
Here is your problem, the old ones didn;t pull people off because there were no good true scale, except handmaided individual models. The new one released when technologies made a great step forward, and instead of following GW switched to cartoonish design.
>Heroic scale is cartoony and heroic scale is the scale GW uses
Yes, they using now, early they used just heroic scale.

>>50617472
>The new one released when technologies made a great step forward, and instead of following GW switched to cartoonish design.

I doubt this. What competes with GW the most at the time?
Warmachine. Warmachine designs are super cartoony. I belive you are wrong when you say cartooniness suddenly and inexplicably turned people off from Fantasy.

>>50617513
>Warmachine. Warmachine designs are super cartoony.
Yeah and minis aren't great.
>I belive you are wrong when you say cartooniness suddenly and inexplicably turned people off from Fantasy.
Not exactly, swithing design which was made 8th edition makes all releases in 8th edition supre-shitty and with bad rules it;s killed WHFB.

>>50617430
>Old executioner sword was impractical because it was tall

Also big kink in the blade for no reason.

>>The metals are static monopose as well.

Yes. The modes are basically one piece of solid metal and stood firmly planted. Monopose and static.

>>50617546
>Yeah and minis aren't great.

So it wasn't minis that killed Fantasy.

>>50617551
>Also big kink in the blade for no reason.
It's still much more useful form for blade
>The modes are basically one piece of solid metal and stood firmly planted.
Wow,, you create your own definition to prove your pont, great job shill.
>>50617569
Nope, Warmahordes always was about gameplay, while 8th edition have shit rules and shit models.

>>50617607
>Nope, Warmahordes always was about gameplay

So if models mattered so much people would not play Warmachine.
So people wouldn't quit Fantasy because of models.

>>50617623
>So if models mattered so much people would not play Warmachine.
Warhammer and Warmachine focsuing on different audience.

>>50617357

No, only one person who dislikes AoS types in disjointed Eastern European syntax, calls everyone who disagrees with him "shill", "Redshirt", or "GWhore" (spelled the same way every time), and uses the same arguments in every thread.

Fucking faggot

>>50617667
>shill
>Redshirt
Wow< totally new words for 4chan, surely only on person could post them.
>GWhore
Wut?

>>50617727
see
>>50608047

he's used it exactly 4 times in the last 2 days