What's the point of Orks if Tyranids are a better xeno swarm

Pls don't tell me your just gonna spam shitting on Ork threads?

>>50578124
ORKS LITERALLY NOT EVEN IMPORTANT

>>50578167
That's a yes. Ignore and move on.

>>50578097
Beast.

>they will never be a threat to the Imperium
That's what you say until Ghazgull gets their collective shit together, crushes the 13th Black Crusade, destroys a hive fleet, invades Comorragh, takes over a whole sector of Imperial Space, conquers Mars, and makes a beeline straight for Terra.

Green is best, and you can't deny it.

Sounds like puny git talk to me

>>50578097
u mad xenos lover?

>>50578277

for now Thraka is a joke even compared to Abaddon. He attacked one planet TWICE and got his ass kicked TWICE by the same fucking commissar.

>>50578097
Please stop trying to make anti-Ork bait a thing. It doesn't generate nearly as interesting discussion as our other bait threads.

>>50578277
>Green is best, and you can't deny it.
Yep the Salamanders are the best, and I can't deny it.

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>>50578097
>never be a threat.
what is every waaagh
what is gazkull
what is every ork infestation
>>50578394
i don't think you quite grasp what waaaugh gazkull is, they've taken quite a number planets outside and around the area, destroying a number of important strategic assets.
a better answer is he is clearly some Else's puppet.

>>50578526
Ghaz sucks cock he never actually achieved anything.

>>50578097
fuck off, orks is love!!!

>>50578097
Orks aren't a threat due to their tactics, they're a threat because you have no idea what's coming and when it's arriving.

An Ork Waaagh led by BigBallz MorkaGorka da Greenest might appear on Terra/Cadia/Ultramar/Baal at any second, or it might be PussyPete da BetaBitch on a shitty little asteroid. Their superweapon might kill your entire army in a single shot, or theirs. They might land on your superfortress, or in an ocean of lava. Their weirdboyz might accidentally kill itself, or summon 8 bloodthirsters.

Fighting Orks isn't hard, you just got to be prepared for them at any time to roll 7 natural 20s; or natural 1s.

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>>50578608
>>Ghaz sucks cock he never actually achieved anything.
>I have no arguments
>He's a faggot
no you

>>50578097

I've been saying this shit for ages: there are too many factions in 40k. They need to consolidate Marines/Guard/Sisters/Admech into one 'imperial' army, and chaos marines/demons as 'chaos'. I almost never meet ork, eldar, or even tau players nowadays. I genuinely think the xenos factions should either be cut entirely (space elves and orcs are not only anachronistic but they just feel too out of place in 40k to be interesting) or put into one generic 'xenos' faction if anybody actually wants to play as them.

Face it, chaos/imperium is all anybody plays. It's time to stop lying to themselves and just make it imperiumhammer 40k so they can sell some damned models for a change.

>>50578835
>I almost never meet ork, eldar, or even tau players nowadays
the fuck do you play.
>no tau players
and yet tau is unfortunately one of the most popular factions because of weebbait and cheese.
Eldar needs to be built to avoid cheese.
ork players are fucked, trust me i am one.

>>50578835
>I almost never meet ork, eldar, or even tau players nowadays.
>never meets eldar or tau

Where do you live, anon, and how many rocks are you under?

>>50578835
>imperiumhammer 40k
Are you stupid or something?
play 30k

>>50578859

I honestly think the fact that tau are weebshit is driving AWAY players. Just about everyone at my LGS plays 40k because it's similar to the metal albums they love, and tau don't match that feel at all. There's 3 game stores I play at and only one person (who shows up infrequently) plays a small tau army.

>>50578866
Actually there are 3 game stores near me, I have a pretty wide consensus here.

>>50578870
But what if I want to play a real game anon? What if beaky space marines look dumb as fuck?

>>50578394
Ghaz a joke compared to who? Abs the armless wonderboy? Abs the get BTFO 13 times chosen one? ORKS LOSE WHEN!? ORKS IZ NEVA BEAT DEY JUS COME BACK FER ANUVVA GO!!!

>>50578911
>But what if I want to play a real game anon? W
THEN YOU WILL PLAY 40K WITH XENO YOUNG MAN.
>>50578911
>>What if beaky space marines look dumb as fuck?
PLASTIC MK3S AND MK4S
L
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T
I
C

>check the archive
>This is literally the 10th Ork lore suck thread this week

And it has been going on much longer than that. How many times will you guys bite the bait?

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>>50578911
1.tau are still one of the most popular armies, which is why they have a battleforce.
2.
>metal albums at my lgs,
>everyone is like that.
3.
>my unsubstantiated anecdote is real
>REAL

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>>50578097
>Forgettin' Freebootaz like a pansy git
>Not implying everything to give your post more green

>>50578943
You mean the knight-looking ones? Yeah, those also look stupid and anachronistic. what's next, you're going to tell me to go buy the wonky tyranid warriors from 2nd ed, too?

>>50578969
/tg/ is literally the only place I hear anyone talking about playing tau that isn't relegated to some tiny subforum basement somewhere.

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>>50579057
>You mean the knight-looking ones? Yeah, those also look stupid and anachronistic. what's next, you're going to tell me to go buy the wonky tyranid warriors from 2nd ed, too?
not bad anon, not bad.
>doesn't like spess knights
>doesn't like mk3
i bet you don't even into IW.

>>50579057
>/tg/ is literally the only place I hear anyone talking about playing tau that isn't relegated to some tiny subforum basement somewhere.
>>>/plebbit/
enjoy your subleddits

>>50579102
No, I'm not. They look stupid in a sci-fi setting, even for 40k which just staples spikes onto everything. IW worst SM faction.

>>50579116
I CAN'T REFUTE YOUR POINT SO LEAVE THE WEBSITE FOR ME PLS GB2 REDDIT MAYMAY

>>50578097
>never be a threat to the Imperium.
Why do SM always win? Because GW lore is grade school fan fiction tier writing.

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>>50579172
>IW worst SM faction.
nigga what
> They look stupid in a sci-fi setting,
>but the chariot doesn't
>gothic mechs
>fly cathedrals
>SoB
>inquestion
>servo skulls.
yes, yes this knight doesn't fit into my gothic space setting with skulls errywhere, and human cyborg slaves band shit
especially given that the space marine chapters are a allegory to knightly chapters and legions.
you sir desire decimation.

also
>santa logan
>potato flier
>leman russ
>dreadknight.
>taurus.
yes your imperial equipment looks so good.

>>50579172
>TAU ISN'T SHOVED INTO SUBLEDDITS HERE....AND I KNOW THAT'S TRUE....BUT I DON'T GOOOOOO TO LEBBIT I'M NOT A FAGGOT.
nigger please, plebbit is shit and you are too.

>>50579245
Don't get me started on other bad design choices in 40k. there's plenty. However, the style just doesn't fit. space marine + Knight was always a callback to WFB which doesn't even exist anymore. The warrior monk route is best for space marines, not chivalrous bullshit that's appealing to fantasy nerds and nobody else. Also yeah, yeah it does. Better than 90% of the xenos shit put out, esp by citadel.

>>50579272
I don't even fucking use that site, fuckhat. but no keep basing your presuppositions on a place I don't go to. How about you go back to my space, if you like beaky space marines so much? After all, its where all the other old content dies. But keep spitting that gb2reddi maymay. So epic. KYS.

>>50579674
It sounds like you're playing the wrong game.

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>>50579674
I'm with >>50579702
it sounds like you should be playing infinity or dropzone or something.
better balancing more sci fi designs.
less predatory practices.
>better than 90% xeno shit.
ork stuff is in the majority imperial stuff.
loots but still.
also
>YOU'ZE GOT BAD TASTE OP

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>>50579768
Because there's nothing appealing about infinity. I don't hate the aliens in 40k, and I'd even go so far as to say without orcs or crons or anything, it'd be way more boring from a fluff perspective. But too many armies is terrible from a gameplay perspective and impossible to balance. I like the holy war feel of 40k, the setting. I just think some of the art looks stupid and having sixteen armies when you really only need (and consistently sell) two or three is bad design.

Nobody likes playing xeno armies nowadays. you can tell me to go back to plebbit all ya want, it doesn't change that.

Also, not OP.

>>50579768

Also, sure orky shit is imperial but its distinctly made to LOOK like shit. And lo and behold, it does!

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>>50579846
>capping your own post.

Desperate

Xenos are here to stay and your salty tears will change nothing.

>>50579876

Or maybe just wanted to prove more of your assumptions wrong. Good to know that won't ever happen though, since you seem to make stupid assumptions faster than I can show you how stupid they are.

>>50578097
BugFuckers go Home.

>>50579903
M8, you won't get a (you) if you link to the OP even if you made the friggin thread.

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>>50579846
>you can tell me to go back to plebbit all ya want, it doesn't change that.
different anon anon
>Because there's nothing appealing about infinity.
>pic related
>>But too many armies is terrible from a gameplay perspective and impossible to balance.
it's not as if they actually fucking tried to balance things at all you cad.
GW want's a lot of armies and produces them because it rakes in more money.
> when you really only need (and consistently sell) two or three is bad design.
you play AoS don't you.
fucking grand alliances and shit.
>Also, not OP.
all of his talking points.
I'm not him
uh what?

>>50579903
he ain't me.
anon, you were told to 30k if you want to imperial hammer don't give me this we have to remove armies shit.

>>50579956

Well I guess I ain't got a way to prove it, but I'm not OP. Hell even if I agree with him, I've been seeing so many ORKS PLZ GO threads that I don't want to be associated with him. I just think 40k would be better with fewer playable factions, is all.

>>50579994
>lel, lets squat armies I don't like!

Piss off faggot.

>>50578219
Lost.

>>50579972

>it's not as if they actually fucking tried to balance things at all you cad.
GW want's a lot of armies and produces them because it rakes in more money.

Admitting GW is making xeno armies as a cash grab doesn't make me like them more.

>you play AoS don't you. fucking grand alliances and shit.

I don't like fantasy games, for the most part, so I don't. but I think that grand alliances are a step in the right direction, honestly.

>lol you're op

It's almost like sometimes people can agree on something. I seriously don't want to be associated with the guy who made like ten of these threads. Also, I love orks/pretty much all of the xenos from a fluff perspective, unlike OP. I'm trying to make a reasoned point for his cause because I agree with him to some extent, and he'll never have a good discussion about it with all the HEY ORKZ IS DUMB LETS AXE EM GOD I HATE ORKS SO MUCH shit.

>>50579994
If there is any faction that needs consolidating it's the Imperium forces. But GW just keeps releasing new army books. You now what gets old? Imperium vs Imperium games.

>>50579994
i think it will take a lot more then just removing factions. lets get down to brass tacs
>formation rules
>flier rules.
>close combat
>monolists
>price and pricing model.
>cheese to pig ticket models.
>baskin robin marines and yet they all feel generic.
>MAXIMUM COPYRIGHT, including codexs for certain armies that ought not to exist like storm troopers. and the shitty naming convention like storm troopers.
seriously tempestous scions could be much cooler if they name was less latin.

>>50580011

Never once said I didn't like the factions. I just don't think more armies do the game any favors, especially balance-wise, and that some things should be left as lore/fluff. Xenos are one such thing.

>>50580058

It will take all of those things, you're right. however, I think all of those things would be far easier to do with fewer armies. It's simpler to balance 2 or 3 things than it is to balance 9.

>>50580071
>I want to play more SM vs SM games

>>50580057

That's what I've been saying from page 1: amalgamate imperium, amalgamate chaos, cut xeno army/make a single 'xenos' army. There's too much shit in 40k that's just filler from a gameplay perspective.

>>50580052
>Admitting GW is making xeno armies as a cash grab doesn't make me like them more.
i wasn't trying to make you like them
i'm just putting practical barriers in your way.
seriously just fucking play 30k if you dislike xenos so much
you don't even have to bring anything but errant era. even if that demonstrates you have no taste.
> I think that grand alliances are a step in the right direction
no army cohesion it would be a power gaming hell and playing individual armies would have no meaning.
>this spess marhen list has 17 leman russes.
>this xeno has CC monsters in ork trucks.
>dark eldar skiff with tau gunners anyone.

>>50580090

If they're more balanced than the shit we have today, yeah I do. Esp because in the scenario I'm describing, there wouldn't be SM armies, there would be imperial armies. Meaning there could be wildly different makeup in your 'sm vs sm' games. The way its subdivided now, you just get SM vs SM games anyway, at least this way is more fun to play/watch.

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>>50580071
>Xenos are one such thing.

They are literally like half of the fucking setting in themselves.
Orks, Nids, Necrons, all types of Eldar, and the fucking tau.
And quite honestly, there should be even more Xenos races.
The galaxy is a big fucking place that has room for more xenos factions.

So piss off with your imperialwankery, and your dozens of retarded "Space Marines but with a gimmick!" codexes.

The only decent addition to the Imperium GW has done recently has been the Admech.

Also
>ballance
Who gives a bloody fuck? This game is for having fun with your mates and fighting wars with your plastic dudemans, only autismal tourneyfaggots give two craps about the game not being that well ballanced.

If you can't agree to a fair match setup that curbs out some of the more OP shit, with your friends, then work on your social skills, or get better friends.

>>50580116

>seriously just fucking play 30k if you dislike xenos so much
I fucking hate 30k designs, they all feel like that 2nd ed unpolished 80s shit throwbacks to WFB which doesn't exist.

>no army cohesion it would be a power gaming hell and playing individual armies would have no meaning.
If there really is no way to balance it, just axe the xenos altogether and have them as fluff, as stated above. You think balancing 6 armies is easier than balancing 1?

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>>50580105
>gameplay perspective.
what?
nig nog you need to substantiate that claim.
>>50580138
>>more balanced than the shit we have today
PLAY FUCKING 30K
GENERALLY SPEAKING IT'S BETTER BALANCED THE THE OTHER SYSTEMS.
THERE ARE ONLY LEGIONS, MORTALS, AGENTS AND MECHANICUM
there is no bloat, there is no extra shit there is only like 5-6 armies in total barring different flavors of marines, who all draw from the same army book, die just as fast and have one or two extra units and named characters.
it's everything you want.
all you have to do is take the mk5 over the other mks
jesus

>>50580183
> just axe the xenos altogether
>lets just ruin the hobby for all the people who play armies I don't like.

Piss off, you tremendous faggot.

>>50580105
Last time I checked there are more Imperium army's than xeno. So why would you want to make less xeno forces? Why not make them more appealing? Orks are fine, it just sounds like most of the people at GW that liked the left the company or somthing. They literally said "we don't know where we want to go with orks" but admitted there is a problem with the codex.

>>50580183
>If there really is no way to balance it, just axe the xenos altogether
nigger i just indicated that imperium would be unbalanced.
>sir the imperuim isn't working
>let's remove all xenos and ALIENate their audience.

>>50580141
>So piss off with your imperialwankery, and your dozens of retarded "Space Marines but with a gimmick!" codexes.
That's already what 40k is. I'm giving this as a means to STOP that and make imperial army lists interesting again, since it's what just about everybody plays anyway.

>Who gives a bloody fuck about balance?
Why not just flip a coin when shooting and hit on heads? Why not just make up new weapons your guys have before each battle? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? You play games because they have rules that allow for structured play. If that structure is broken or unbalanced, play skews towards one scenario (higher-tier army wins, etc) and it reduces the amount of fun to be had in the game. If you're just in it for modeling I could see that I guess, but if your stance on 40k is LOL WHO CARES ABOUT RULES then maybe you should stop playing tabletop altogether and go play pretend on the 4th grade playground.

>>50580227
I work for GW and what we want to do with Orks is to fucking squat them.

>>50580273
No you dont.

>>50580267
>since it's what just about everybody plays anyway.
Proofs?
Also, if the Xenos weren't selling, GW wouldn't fucking make them.
All the Xenos sell well enough to warrant their existence in GW's eyes. Tau and Eldar both probably sell far better than most of your speshul snoflake Marine variants.

> but if your stance on 40k is LOL WHO CARES ABOUT RULES
I never said that.
You made that strawman up yourself.
I said that the game doesn't need to be perfectly balanced to be enjoyable.

>>50580222
>nigger i just indicated that imperium would be unbalanced.

You talked about xeno armies combining. I doubt that any reasonable playtester would allow for any of that, either, so I'm pretty much gonna say thats a strawman argument. The game would never end up looking like that, even if my proposed changes went into effect, and you know it. Even GW isn't that dumb.

>>50580217
I like the streamline but I hate the archaic designs. 2nd ed was ugly as shit.

>>50580222
Yeah, all six of you.

>>50580273
No need to go that far. Orks make an awesome fluff race/enemy of the imperium. No need to wipe them from history.

You fucking liar

>>50580331
>I like the streamline but I hate the archaic designs. 2nd ed was ugly as shit.
THEN DON'T PLAY WITH THOSE MODELS.
or convert your own where necessary.
or play mechanicum, seriously if you hate mechanicum models then i will find you because you would be quite a scientific find.
a man with no taste.
jesus it's like trying to explain this to a kid.
I know you're bait but try TRY to come up with better more entertaining reasons.

>>50580331
>there are no xeno players because I say so!

Again, Xenos are selling well enough for GW to keep fucking making them.
Xenos like the Orks and the Eldar have been part of 40k since the bloody beginning. Your suggestion to squat them because they aren't popular (because marines are more popular than they are), is fucking retarded.

>>50580314
>Proofs?
I guaran-damn-tee you, walk into any LGS and you'll see at least 75-80% of players with imperial or chaos factions.

>I said that the game doesn't need to be perfectly balanced to be enjoyable.

But it does when you have a game that has tournament level play and a huge fanbase. You know how many threads on here are just '[blank] IS BROKEN IN THIS ED'? You can rag on tourneyfags all you want, but they're the hardest core fanbase GW wants. Nobody else can afford to get into 40k as a hobby, for the most part, so those that do are very dedicated. giving them unbalanced shit just to market what's 'good' this ed is bullshit. Does it have to be? No. but it's waaaaaaay better when it is, ask anybody. And with the clusterfuck balance is in 40k now, I think simplification is needed. Plus, it may get new people into the hobby (lemme guess, new players are cancer RUINING YOUR GAME right? not the only thing keeping a dying wargaming franchise alive?)

>>50580386

Okay, the mechanicum models are awesome, I'll give you that. however, 30k also lacks another big component I want: other players. Who the fuck plays 30k?

>>50580406
Squats were there from the beginning, too, and got nixed because they didn't fit well anymore. I agree they've been established longer, which is why full squatting ain't necessary. Just have them fade out of the limelight and keep them around as lore.

Keep thinking I'm bait, you seem to be enjoying it more than DEbate.

>>50580445
>t least 75-80% of players with imperial or chaos factions.
majority at my FLGSs are tau, xeno and mechancus.
with tau being the larger portion. even if i were to combind chaos and imperial the split is pretty even and not all that fair because some folks have multiple armies.
myself i play eldar, orks and skitarii
the fuck does one count me?

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>>50578097
Ork > Chaos

>>50580499
>other players. Who the fuck plays 30k?
with all the plastic kits more then you know.
me and a bunch a dudes finally stepped in when mk 3 plastics.
i have my bitters and I've ordered in a cybernetica army for allies.
either way you are better off then any infinity, mauflaux flames of war or DFC/DZC player because not only can you play 40k with those models but thanks to the boxed sets you might actually find someone.

>>50580141
As Imperiumwanker I find it offensive to be mashed together with OP. We Imperiumfags appreciate the service of our fellow xeno players for giving us enemies to gloriously defeat.

>>50578835
Let me guess: If you played Civilization you'd pay for a DLC that removes some factions. Because less choice = better.

>>50580504

Sometimes you're on the losing side of history man, dunno what to tell you. Dark eldar players were pretty sure their codex was never gonna get updated, once upon a time. That's probably how it would happen to xenos: one last codex and they're out. You can keep playing them with old rules if you really want to, but nothing more is coming. I think that's fair to the people who invested in xeno armies.

>>50580445
Funny, my local LGS has Nids, Tau, Orks, and the store manager is a friggin Necron player, and I collect Eldar (among other things.)

Of course, there are IG, Spesh Muhreens too as well as chaos, but no single faction dominates the scene.

I can disprove your anecdotal bs with my anecdotes.

>But it does when you have a game that has tournament level play and a huge fanbase
Tourneyfags are a tiny minority of this fanbase.
Most 40k fans are in the hobby not for autismal competition, but to build and collect armies they like, and to occasionally play friendly matches with them.

>You know how many threads on here are just '[blank] IS BROKEN IN THIS ED'?
Yes, and?

> but they're the hardest core fanbase GW wants.
Oh, the fags who are ready to drop 40k for "better systems" the moment the rules change for the "worse"?

>Nobody else can afford to get into 40k as a hobby
40k isn't even that fucking expensive.
I am a god damn jobless neet and even my autismbucks are enough for me to buy plastic crack, monthly, if I want to. Anyone with a stable source of income can afford 40k.
SMOKING is more expensive of a "hobby" than 40k is, and there are metric fuckton of more smokers out there than 40k players.

>And with the clusterfuck balance is in 40k now,
Cut the crap. 40k isn't unplayably unbalanced. There are some problem units but in a friendly match, you can agree with your opponent to balance out the superiority of those units in many ways.

> Plus, it may get new people into the hobby
> "Cutting out interesting and cool factions which to collect will surely attract new players!"

You are deluded.

>>50580499
Squats were squatted because GW couldn't figure out what to do with them in 40k, and what their niche would be.
No such problem with orks or any other Xenos race for that matter.

>>50580544

I still don't know anyone who plays 30k. My LGS(es) doesn't have a 30k day. sure I can buy plastic kits online, but most of the 30k designs I still don't like, so I'm paying for models I'm def not using in 40k. Its too much investment in something that I don't know if I will even play that often.

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>>50580576
>Sometimes you're on the losing side of history man,
Only in your head.

>Dark eldar players were pretty sure their codex was never gonna get updated

But it did eventually, and how glorious of a reboot it was.
Because unlike you, GW doesn't want to axe factions because of retarded reasons you propose. In general, GW wants to keep factions in 40k, and ad more of them if possible, because guess what, the people WORKING at GW LIKE 40k's factions.

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>>50580576
>Sometimes you're on the losing side of history man
dman nigger that's sum good bait,

>>50580618
>I still don't know anyone who plays 30k
an you know metal heads in the game.
honestly i think i might like that more.
>sure I can buy plastic kits online, but most of the 30k designs I still don't like
i never indicate for you to buy them, but rather now that it is out there more people are buying into 30k.
>Its too much investment in something that I don't know if I will even play that often.
again you are still better off than infinity, maulfaux, flames of war, warpath, kings of war, relic knights, dfc,dzc, tanks, saga, scubmahordes (not very much more),dystopian wars/legions, firestorm aramada, battletech, heavy gear, WHFB, lions rampart, frost grave, etc players.

>>50580578

Well, I have a larger sample size, because 3 LGS, but I'll concede its anecdotal. Still, I've experienced tons of 40k players online and the vast majority are SM/IG/SoB players. New people to the scene also seem to love AdMech for some reason.

>Tourneyfags are a tiny minority of this fanbase.
Possibly, but they also spend way more money than anyone else on 40k and GW would be stupid to ignore that.

>[blank is broken] Yes, and?
So with fewer armies balance becomes much easier.

>Oh, the fags who are ready to drop 40k for "better systems" the moment the rules change for the "worse"?
Just because a million fa/tg/uys like bitching about WORST SYSTEM EVAR when something new comes out are visible doesn't mean shit, they're still buying it. It's just like /v/, they hate the games but still preorder them. who's using anecdotal evidence now?

>40k isn't even that fucking expensive.
50 bucks for one plastic kit is expensive, anon.
Maybe if you stop being an autismal neet as you declared, you'd know the actual value of money.

>40k isn't unplayably unbalanced.
Barely.

>Squats were squatted because GW couldn't figure out what to do with them in 40k, and what their niche would be.
No such problem with orks or any other Xenos race for that matter.

Not to go on the point of the OP, but what niches to orks and eldar fill? Swarm tactics is already handled by IG. Overspecialized units are already covered by Admech/SoB. They really don't fill any need that hasn't been met, in regards to play style. Maybe they did in yesteryear, but that's past tense.

>>50580756
>SoB players.
Troll confirmed.

>>50578097
What's the point of Xenos? No self-respecting human should play anything but the Imperium, that's /tg/ canon, all the Xenos should get squatted.

Luckily we're on the way there, GW's has realized all anyone wants is the Imperium and started the Xenos ball rolling with Death Masque taking out the Craftworld Eldar and the Beast Arises revealing the Orks can be easily killed in mass if the Imperium feels like it.

>>50580732
No one I know plays any of those/is willing to invest in any of them save infinity, which I don't like.

>>50580645
>Only in your head.

Unfortunately, yeah.

>>50580803
>No one I know plays any of those/is willing to invest in any of them save infinity, which I don't like.
Which is my point.
you are better off with 30k then the majority of those people
do you just lack reading comprehension or something

>>50580766
Never said there were players, said that their army covers a niche.

>>50580789
I know you're trying to bait, but I actually agree with you to some extent. They probably aren't going to axe xenos, though. We can at least hope, however, that those story arcs continue, the eldar go extinct like they've hinted at for ages, and the orks lose to biological warfare.

>>50580833

Do you? I already said: Nobody plays 30k, so I'm not starting. I don't care if it has double the followers of infinity, 1 x 2 is still only 2.

>>50580789
Eh Xenos already don't matter, who cares if they axe them or not?

At this point in the fluff the entire combined might of every Xenos in the galaxy probably couldn't even beat a company of Ultramarines.

>>50580756
>Possibly, but they also spend way more money than anyone else on 40k and GW would be stupid to ignore that.

GW would also be stupid to alienate the wast majority of their fanbase by solely catering to the Tourneyfag autists, which cutting out all the xenos like you suggest, would be.

>So with fewer armies balance becomes much easier.
Not necessarily at all, and again, Balance is a secondary concern to the majority of 40k fanbase. Most people just want cool models for the factions they collect and fun rules to use with them.

>50 bucks for one plastic kit is expensive, anon.
Again, not that expensive.
A person who smokes daily can spend that amount of money on smokes in just two weeks.
It can easily be the bill of a grocery trip for a family of 4.
It is not that friggin expensive when put in the context.
50 yuros in a month for some plastic dudemans is cheap as fuck for a hobby.


> but what niches to orks and eldar fill?
Orks have hardy melee swarms, ramshackle vehicle hordes, walker hordes, SHITTONS of shooting, and differ quite heavily from other Swarm Armies in their playstyle.
Eldar are fast as fuck, can wield extremely specialized infantry armies(admech/sob units aren't nearly as specialized to specific roles as Eldar Aspect Warriors are), full on Skimmer armies, tough footslogging wraith armies, and any mixture of the above.

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>>50580843
and i'm saying you can find people
more to the point as i've said before you could just play with age of darkness armylists against 40k.
not the best idea but you can
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT ANY FUCKING MARINES BECAUSE YOU HATE THEIR DESIGN AND WERE PLAYING WITH YOU 40K MARINE THEN YOU'VE LOST NOTHING.
IF YOU PLAY MECHANCIUM, IMPERIAL ARMOUR COMES OUT AND YOU CAN PLAY IT IN 40K.
this isn't even pascals wager.
there is no way to loose even if you don't have what you want.

ITT: An alternate reality where Eldar, Tau, and Necrons arent top-tier armies with plenty of players and 40k memes like purging xenos arent part of the appeal.

Purging heretics gets boring sometimes, and chaosfags are too whiny.

>>50580885

Sad but true. In the end, Imperium is going to be GW's fave faction. We all gotta' realize this. If they axe xenos, it would at least mean the SM vs SM battles we have constantly already would be more varied. Honestly, axing them would lead to MORE variety in gameplay and much better balance, but 'NOOOO, MUH DARK ELDAR'. you guys did fine with an old codex before, get used to it now.

Wow, this is some successful bait, has /tg/ gotten stupider in the last few months or something?

>>50580932
I just want to see how far we can ride this.
bait threads that can be entertaining are always fun

>>50580835
Psychic warfare, not biological.

Craftworld Eldar go extinct cause Artemis accidentally.

Orks get killed by SoS (just got revealed they're still alived)

Nids die to Imperium super virus bomb.

Deathwatch kill Silent King and use his protocols to make all Necron suicide.

Imperium sends one Space Wolf Company to kill Tau while Cato kills all the minor Xenos on his own.

Done 40k can now finally get back to what its really about.

You know, this thread makes me happy that 4chan is dying.

>>50580971
Xenosfag. 4chan is for humans not you.

>>50580902
>GW would also be stupid to alienate the wast majority of their fanbase by solely catering to the Tourneyfag autists, which cutting out all the xenos like you suggest, would be.

Reeeeally doubt xenos players are the vast majority, and they haven't been since the late 90s.

>Not necessarily at all, and again, Balance is a secondary concern to the majority of 40k fanbase.
It's a tabletop wargame. I think you vastly underestimate how many people care about balance (or at least better balance than we have NOW)

>Again, not that expensive. A person who smokes daily can spend that amount of money on smokes in just two weeks. It can easily be the bill of a grocery trip for a family of 4.

Wow dude where the fuck do you live? Fifty bucks feeds a family of four? Also, 'SMMOKING COSTS JUST AS MUCH AND ITS FINE'...you know, maybe you're talking to someone who quit smoking because of how much of a financial drain it fucking was. that was an addiction, and I shouldn't need to spend as much cash on a hobby as I would for an addiction, anon.

Seriously, pay your own bills instead of your parents doing it and get back to me about how economically viable a 50 dollar plastic model kit is.

>>50578097

They are basically just fantasy legacy, in a setting where almost anything goes they still seem shoe horned in (grow as fungus and have thought powered space ships, really?)

They should get Squat'ed

>>50580932
>>50580951
>>50580971

I'm sorry someone on the internet suggested the possibility that maybe the army you play is killing game balance and that you're the only one in a 100 mile radius playing said army.

Keep pumpin out them tears, anons, I'm parched.

>>50581026

THIS. Space orcs and space elves don't feel right in gothic settings. Maybe the dark eldar fit a little better, but its moot because nobody plays dark eldar. nobody plays any xenos faction.

>>50581026
Though I understand, and largely agree, with the sentiment. Is squatting even necessary? Orks already have barely any presence in fluff or crunch and have never done anything of major import beyond die, does it even matter to squat them?

Orks are sort of so irrelevant whether squatted or not it doesn't really matter, they have zero influence either way.

>>50581004
>Reeeeally doubt xenos players are the vast majority, and they haven't been since the late 90s.

Never claimed that they are. They however, are a significant portion of 40k fanbase.
Also, cutting them out wouldn't just alienate xenos players. It would alienate tons of other players as well.

Also, newsflash, people can play multiple different armies.
I have xenos armies, as well as an Admech/Skitarii army, along with a bunch of Imperial Knights.

> I think you vastly underestimate how many people care about balance
And I think you over-estimate the grievances people have with it, especially when you imply that most people would be ok with all xenos being cut out in order to restore "

>Wow dude where the fuck do you live? Fifty bucks feeds a family of four?
Funland.

And again, 50 yuros isn't a lot of money.
I spend that in like 2 weeks just on food and travel expenses. And most 40k kits don't cost 50 yuros.
Unless you buy tons of 40k stuff every month, you can easily budget the 50 or so euros for your plastic dudeman hobby.

Also, again, neetbucks. I got my own bills to pay, and I have to budget the handouts goverment gibs me if I want to spend money on the hobby too.

>>50581134
Anon I highly doubt a sizeable portion of anyone cares about Xenos. Definitely no-one on /tg/ so this is the wrong place to even try to make that case.

>>50581160
>Anon I highly doubt a sizeable portion of anyone cares about Xenos. Definitely no-one on /tg/ so this is the wrong place to even try to make that case.


Proofs for any of these claims.

/tg/ has threads about both orks and Eldar regularly, and 40k general has discussions about xenos all the time.

You keep pushing your own little bubble and claim it represents this whole board, let alone the whole hobby. You are an utter moron.

>>50581067

Maybe just let them quietly die on the vine,

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Only utter fucking plebeian poorfags collect a single army.

True patricians have an army of every single faction they like.
And only small minded morons like just one faction.

>>50581188
Not that anon but...what? I can hardly think of a conversation on /tg/ about aliens which isn't either incredibly minor or about them being inferior to the Imperium.

Please show me all these threads about the Orks and Eldar?

>>50578097
Nids are a lot more swarmy, but they're also (mostly) mindless.

Orks are both brutal and cunning. Or was that cunning and brutal?

>>50581051

Eldar get a pass for me because every space opera setting needs that 'ancient space empire but no longer around/relevant' trope

>>50581233
Fucking look for them in the archives if you are interested, or pay attention to the board.

>>50581200
Oh, that's what I was sort of meaning to imply. Don't 'squat' them. Just don't bother with codexes or new miniatures and keep their fluff at the level's its been for most of the past twenty years. Then they'll quietly die off.

>>50581215
True Humans serve the God-Emperor of Mankind and purge the heretic and Xenos. Anything else is heresy and shall be met with death.

>>50581233
>I can hardly think of a conversation on /tg/ about aliens which isn't either incredibly minor or about them being inferior to the Imperium.

Nigger, this is a roleplaying board.
A lot of the "purge xenos" bs, is done JOKINGLY.

Are you seriously so fucking autistic that you think that anyone else but you and one or 3 more cunts here want to see xenos removed from the fucking game?

>>50581262
That's not much in the way of evidence. Can't think in the past week of anytime Eldar or Orks were mentioned in any context beyond those I mentioned.

>>50578097
Aren't the Orks the one thing stopping a spikey ovipenis from impregnating Empy's thoracic cavity?

>>50581290
Piss off cunt.

I'll collect whatever armies I please, and most imperial stuff looks ugly as sin and I'll never buy a single box of them. Space Marines look fucking retarded.

>>50581298
What makes you think only three people want it? Are you a fucking xenosfag? You probably play Tau.

>>50581314
No. Marines easily bitchslap nids all the time, Orks don't do shit but lose

>>50581233
>I can hardly think of a conversation on /tg/ about aliens which isn't either incredibly minor or about them being inferior to the Imperium.
/tg/ has had quite a few threads lately about Dark Eldar.

>>50581320
Then you'll be purged for being a xenosfucking heretic. Race-traitor.

>>50581322

I play Admech/Skitarii, Nids, Genestealer Cultists, Craftworld Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Necrons and Orks.

I dislike Tau aesthetics, just like I dislike Space Marine, IG, SoB and Chaos aesthetics in general, thus I do not collect them.

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>>50581367
Keep raging, fagboi.

>>50578097
>I'm a filthy Bugfucker and I want everyone else fuck bugs just like me.
>I'm going to msaquerade as an Imperiumfag and push for Orkz getting squatted so that I can have more fluff playing up my Zoanthrope Waifu.

>>50581298
Be that as it may, the roleplay part now, that doesn't have an affect on my point. 'Xenos' aren't mentioned on this board much beyond disparaging, complaining or indicating inferiority to humans/Imperium. Whether it be done mostly in jest or not doesn't alter my point which is that the anon was wrong to imply there is at all sizeable positive discussion or reaction to 'Xenos' on /tg/

>>50581383
>Xenosfag soree cause he always loses
What's it feel like knowing the Emperor could kill you all by blinking?

>>50581391
> 'Xenos' aren't mentioned on this board much beyond disparaging, complaining or indicating inferiority to humans/Imperium
Except they are.

This idea that the only times Xenos are discussed is when they are mocked or talked shit about is completely bogus.

You have no evidence to support that claim at all.

>>50581391
>'Xenos' aren't mentioned on this board much beyond disparaging, complaining or indicating inferiority to humans/Imperium.
Gee, I wonder what raging faggot is responsible for that.

>>50581387
Fuck you, I only play Imperium cause I'm a human and not some sniveling racetraior. let me guess you like to play with your Eldar Faggots faggot?

>>50581406
I don't care m8.
I don't take this hobby so seriously that I have to compulsively roleplay on an anonymous Mongolian carpet weaving bulletin board about how much I hate the people who collect armies I myself don't collect.

>>50581428

>imperium players in a nutshell

>>50581422
You equally have no evidence. I will however watch the remaining week to see if a single 'Xenos' positive thread emerges.

Because over the last three days along I believe thier have been 4-5 threads calling for the Xenos to be squatted as a whole (an idea I'm not opposed too).

>>50581428
>He posts, as he tenderly caresses his Flyrant bodypilllow, which is now stiff as a board due to all the cum he has filled it with.

>>50581422
I'm sorry but I gotta agree with the anon. 9/10 times a non-human anything is brought up on /tg/ its to shit on it or talk about Marines pushing its shit in.

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>>50581470
>Because over the last three days along I believe thier have been 4-5 threads calling for the Xenos to be squatted as a whole

Gee, could it be that those threads were made by the same fucking person who has found good bait material?
It's not like a person couldn't spam the same thread constantly to this board.

>>50581461
>Butthurt Xensofag

>>50578097
It's recognized by many Imperial authorities that Orkz would be, by far, the greatest threat to the imperium if they could ever actually organize. This is why ghazghkull is such a big fucking threat.

Unlike Tyranids, Orkz have a latent connection to the warp and their infestations are even more difficult to root out. They grow everywhere. They can survive almost anything, and they can create weapons out of almost anything.

Orkz is da bestest

>>50581485
Proofs?

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>>50581461
>>imperium players in a nutshell
please retract the statement that would associate me with the irrational biological one.
it is inconvenient to be associated with a fleshbag obsessed with the flesh bag wrapping

>>50581472
The fuck is a flyrant? Some weakass Xenos? Go play with your faggoty space elves

>>50581500
That's just an assumption though. Obviously it could be correct, but just as likely its indicative of a general mood among the fandom.

And considering the general tone of the fanbase and site concerning non-human anything I'm more inclined to go with that interpretation personally, though I accept completely we'll never be able to know absolutely one way or the other.

>>50578933
>>50578394

Yeah, you don't see any chaos space marines willfully diving into the warp to fight demons for eternity do you? Chaos are slaves. Orkz is da masters.

>>50581512
The Orkz already did unite, during the Beast War, and as it turned out their psychic connection actually makes it exceedingly easy for the Imperium to kill them in mass.

Even united the Orks lost to an Imperium not even half as strong as it had been under the Emperor. That's nothing to be proud of, Orks will literally never be strong since even at their strongest they can't seriously endanger a shadow of the Imperium.

>>50581546
>And considering the general tone of the fanbase and site concerning non-human anything I'm more inclined to go with that interpretation personally, though I accept completely we'll never be able to know absolutely one way or the other.


Only because you are utter fucking retard.

This thread, and all the others starting with "faction X should be squatted" are blatant fucking troll threads, that have been stable of this board for over 5 fucking years.

How god damn new are you?

>>50581520
It's okay Anon, it's alright, you don't have to hide it anymore. We all know you want to make sweet, sweet love to a genestealer as she infects you and makes you part of the hive mind, joining together In mind and soul. We accept that here on /tg/, you can come out of the closet now.

>>50578097
The Imperium should be downplayed to focus on noble Orks striving to overcome adversity.

>>50578394
Lost on Piscina too.

>>50578968
>We iz orkz.
>Fighting iz what we iz.

>>50581577
Again, that's nothing but an assumption on your behalf, as much as mine is. So I still don't see any point your making.

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Everyone hopping on the bait

>>50581579
Go cry to your Infinity Circuit you faggot...oh wait, you can't, Artemis literally killed your god.

Enjoy being soul-fucked for all eternity.

>>50581590
Lol Orks overcoming anything.

>>50580183
You literally hate what makes the game anything worth caring about. There's no point in another gritty space beef drama. The original art and models are what made the game.

>>50581593
Has Ghaz ever won anything? He seems like some sort of Orkish Team Rocket right now except less competent.

>>50581617
Not really an assumption, when this is like the 3rd thread with this same topic I have seen this day, with same style of writing in the op.

It is obviously done by some faggot who seeks (and has succeeded) to bait people.

You are willingly disingenuous, autistic or blind, to not see this.

Your idea that the whole fanbase hates xenos is nothing more than confirmation bias on your part.

>>50581675
Its an assumption. I'm sorry but that's a fact, do you have access to an objective evidence system to rigorously prove your point?

It could be that multiple people are inspired by the sentiment once it is expressed, a common enough phenomenon.

Additionally I never stated the whole fanbase hates xenos, you're completely misquoting me, simply that the majority sentiment on this site is definitely one that the Xenos are inferior and irrelevant compared to the Imperium.

Also the accusation of 'confirmation bias' in this regard can be easily thrown in both directions so I see little use in it.

>>50578835
What about necrons?

>>50581665
>gritty space beef drama
So...40k?

>>50581660
That's what makes them interesting. Striving for success against all setbacks, fighting to overcome insurmountable odds.

Plus it would make better use of the fascism of the Imperium that has long-since lost all satirical bite. It would be better to use it as direct villain trait that leave it to be misread by semi-literate plebs.

>>50581638
Don't cry Anon, I'm sure that one day when 40k becomes real, you can finally have your cute but ditzy Carnifex girlfriend who is willing to tear apart all who make fun your love. Chin up Anon, it can happen one day.

>>50581714
>Its an assumption.
It is a lot safer assumption than the one you are making here

>It could be that multiple people are inspired by the sentiment once it is expressed, a common enough phenomenon.

Seeing how this "sentiment" isn't anything fucking new.
Threads about how "faction x" needs to be removed from 40k have been stable part of /tg/ trolling since this board's inception, you fucking clueless moron.

>>50581761
>Orks...interesting
Wat?

They are literally Mooks the race.

>>50581764
Fuck off, go fuck your faggoty eldar boyfriend and die so the human race can improve without your shitty genes.

>>50581776
I have to admit I simply haven't seen a thread asking for Space Marines or the Imperium to be removed from the game before.

In my experience I tend to only see this sentiment addressed against Xenos (most commonly Tau).

That is just my experience thereof.

>>50581843
You haven't been paying attention then.

Same sort of troll thread have been made about all 40k races ranging from Ultramarines to Chaos as a whole concept in the setting itself, and anything in between.
It is just that in the case of xenos, some autismal imperium fans join in thinking that this is a serious topic of discussion.

>>50581886
Okay anon, without getting in you twos discussion, its just a lie to act like people don't ask for Tau to be squatted a hundered times more than the Imperium. Tha's just bullshit

>>50581819
Anon, I know you're lashing out because you aren't used to having a heart to heart like this, but it's okay you let go. No one here is going to make fun of you or call you names or throw stones at you just because you "like" like Tyranids.

The heart wants what the heart wants, And if what your heart wants is to be in a loving, stable, and highly sexual relationship with a Hive tryrant, than who are we to judge?

>>50581919
Lol you don't have a heart cause you turned from the light of the God-Emperor. You're some Patriarch's bum chum.

>>50581902
> its just a lie to act like people don't ask for Tau to be squatted a hundered times more than the Imperium
I made no statement on the frequency of these threads.
Tau do obviously get these sorts of troll threads about them more often than Imperium does, but that doesn't mean that the Imperial factions have never had such threads about them like the dude I was replying to claimed.

The reason why Tau get such threads about them more often is quite simple. Their overpowered bs makes them a juicy target for this topic, and thus guarantees more replies.

>>50581714
>Additionally I never stated the whole fanbase hates xenos, you're completely misquoting me, simply that the majority sentiment on this site is definitely one that the Xenos are inferior and irrelevant compared to the Imperium.

The problem is that you're speaking for the whole population when nobody even takes your ideas seriously.

>It could be that multiple people are inspired by the sentiment once it is expressed, a common enough phenomenon.

It could be four or five people were inspired to shitpost for attention. It could be you trying extra hard to get this shit over.

>>50581714
Xenos are inferior. That's just a fact.

>>50581936
Yeah sure that's the only reason Tau get targetted, of course its totally legit as long as Tau are the only ones targetted.

Cause Tau win all tournaments don't they?

Sorry anon but that's bullshit, people hate Tau for way more than rules.

>>50581931
Don't worry anon, I'm sure the Big E is perfectly okay with your interestingly insectiod preferences. I'm sure that he wouldn't reject you purely because you prefer to lay with a Norn Queen rather than a Sister of Battle.

In fact, I dare say that he would actually approve of your initiative, going out to turn the Xenos a little more Human little by little. He would applaud such an effort to show the Nids the glory of the human form!

>>50581960
Yeah, I'd happily agree that most of it is stuff we can't know for sure, either way. Sure.

But I think acting as if their aren't a large group of individuals who do have that position is foolish. But that's me.

>>50582042
See just how heretical you are fucker? The Emperor would never turn Xenos, he'd extermiinate them all like the filthy cockroaches you guys are.

Don't worry we'll come kill you, your family, your loved ones your friends and your species soon enough. We have a lot of practise at genocide, we're the experts at it, we'll round you up, bake you alive, gas you and then shit on your corpses and leave it be picked apart by maggots.

If you're smart you'll murder your own children now to save them the horror. Humanity Fuck Yeah!

>>50582046
>But I think acting as if their aren't a large group of individuals who do have that position is foolish.

Name one.

>>50582025
Only total fucking autists legit hate any 40k faction, so their opinions can safely be ignored.

Banter is one thing, but anyone who is 100% serious about wanting factions to be removed from 40k should be ridiculed as the autismal shits they are.

>>50582079
Name one what? Also I'm going off now. This has taken enough time as is.

>>50582080
I think there are pretty good reasons to remove some factions though. Xenos really are irrelevant, in fluff and crunch, the game is already practically Marinehammer, taking the next step and purging non-Marine factions will help make it more decent and profitable like 30k.

The amount of Xenos players are miniscule compared to Imperium players, more can be gained by balancing and making the game fun for Imperium players. As a lot of people have pointed out most Xenos players are just Imperium players who collected some Xenos on the side so they'll still play the game.

>>50582025
I think the CONCEPT of the tau is great and poignant. Very appropriate for the setting. However, the hamfisted delivery of the tau done by the atrocious writers, along with the pants on head stupid miniatures that the tau get (BIG ROBOTS BUT BIGGER THIS TIME), make them a shit faction. I wish they'd focus on their nascent crusade, or the idea that all are welcome and equal but some are more equal than others--not Imperium with shinies.

The only BL books I'd even consider readable are those by Sandy Mitchell and even the Caiaphas Cain series left me thinking that the tau just aren't a good fit.

>>50582074
Don't act so jumpy anon, your Inquisition friends aren't here, you can drop the act. We can just talk here.

So how has the whole "getting back in the dating game" thing been going? Or are you still in mourning since Carnifex-chan got blamed?

>>50582133

good bait

>>50582094
Checkmate.

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>>50582133

>I think there are pretty good reasons to remove some factions though.
There aren't though.

>Xenos really are irrelevant, in fluff and crunch,
Wrong on both counts.

>the game is already practically Marinehammer,
And your solution is to make that problem even worse.

>taking the next step and purging non-Marine factions will help make it more decent and profitable like 30k.
You have no logical basis for this conclusion.

>The amount of Xenos players are miniscule compared to Imperium players,
Proofs?

>more can be gained by balancing and making the game fun for Imperium players.
>"make people who don't play my faction leave, so I'll have more fun"
Only a child would think this is a good idea.

>As a lot of people have pointed out most Xenos players are just Imperium players who collected some Xenos on the side so they'll still play the game.
That's a big fucking assumption.
I sure as hell would leave if half of my armies were squatted.

Why am I even replying to you? You made it blatantly obvious that you are just a troll 100 posts ago.

>>50582170
GO fuck yourself you alien fucker. You're probably some transvesite fattie fuck girl who's dreaming of being raped by fucking Kroot.

GO die in a ditch somewhere and spare humanity your fucking awfulness. HFY!

>>50582216
Xenos are irrelevant in fluff and crunch. That's a fact. I don't think its a good enough reason to remove them, but it is true.

>>50582216
Marinehammer is the problem? What are you smoking?

Marinehammer is literally why most of us are here. You do know 90% of the game is Marine fluff and crunch right? Marines are literally all 40k is.

>>50582295
Anon, don't worry, it'l be alright. You have to let to go though, you can't keep holding onto this anger anymore.

You have to move on Anon, it's what Carnifex-chan would want. She would want you to be happy.

>>50582133
>Playing Space Marines
>2016

There are literally no Space Marine players at my FLGS. They didn't even stock Deathwatch stuff despite it having Harlequins in. Orks vs Orks is the most common game, and from actual game experience which you obviously lack, it is the most balanced form of the game there is.

Honestly, I don't think you're even familiar with this game. You're clearly just making shit up, and nobody is going to buy it.

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>>50582307
>>50582328
Try harder.

>>50582328
>Marinehammer

How does that even work? Space Marines are on the same side, dummy.

>>50582337
Where do you play that there aren't Space Marines? That's bullshit and you're lying.

>>50582367
Civil War, duh, like Horus Heresy. There's a reason Space Marines got an entire Franchise just to themselves.

Eldar have like three books total and they lose in all of them. Do Orks or nids even have a book?

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>>50582383
>Never even been to a Games Workshop confirmed

>>50582411
Books are for a different audience, anon. If you had ever been to a store you'd see that Games Workshop keeps them in their own separate area. FLGS's don't even stock them most of the time.

You really are outing yourself with your lack of knowledge, you know.

>>50582412
Dude acting like Space Marines don't get played is dumb. You can dislike the anon and he's dumb but what you're saying is now is equally dumb. Marines are very popular and played widely, almost without a doubt the most widely played army.

>>50582334
Fuck off and get genocided fag. Humanity fuck yeah!

>>50582526
It's okay to cry Anon, you're among friends here, you can let it all out.

Have hope, Perhaps one day you can find some nice Lictor Girl to settle down with.

>>50582553
Perhaps one day you can get gassed along with your family xenosfag

>>50582513
>Marines are very popular and played widely, almost without a doubt the most widely played army.

Source.

>>50582578
Literally type most common warhammer 40k armies and read what follows in google. There are more than enough sources there that I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

Acting as if Space Marines aren't the obvious Poster Boys and most popular is dumb.

>>50582570
Oh, how about I help get back into they game a little. I had an friend on Eden IVXL who reported that the planet was being attacked by Tyranids.

Apparently there is Rather Cute Dominatrix amount them who is looking for some company. How about Inset the two of you up for a dinner date? Trust me you'll love her, she's great, such a character.

>>50582691
Lol that's probably your homeworld and you're probably lining up to suck Alien cock you fucker.

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>>50581387
I'ld call this a bait fight, but at this point it's just two people beating each other over the head with fishing poles.

>>50578097
Orks have their own quasi-Emperor character, and besides that, when Orks aren't playing the legitimate role of "redshirts nobody cares about", they can be hilariously incompetent but lucky, or satirically clever. It's just that their rules suck and there isn't much fluff coming out about their wackier adventures.

>>50582704
Oh don't worry, my home world is just fine.
But i'm glad your not opposed to the idea, let me just give her a call and get it all sorted out. Trust me it'l be wonderful. You'll thank me for this later.

>>50582755
Ghazghkul is not a quasi-emperor. He's not a Primarch, he's not even a Chapter Master. Dude's literally just a jobber.

Orks aren't hilarious they just suck. They're just a distraction from Chaos.

>>50582787
>Genestealer Cult Bum Fucker confirmed
Die in the Light of the Emperor you fucking heretic

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This now a FUCK YEAH XENOS thread.

>>50582860
Hey Anon, I'm just doing this for you. Personally, I prefer Ratlings, I just love the cute little squeals and squeaks they make when they get fuck by a proper human, but I know how much You like the Nids. Don't worry anon, it's our little secret.

>>50582898
>Fuck Yeah Xenos
There is no such thing, die in the Light of the Emperor!

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>>50582679
>Not checking what your source actually says posting it

>>50581579
Anon, Stahp that is too sweet. You're making me want to become a Bug-Fucker.

>>50582898
I want this to be a thing. But I know it never will be. But I want it to be.

>>50578495
Correct.

Do you think Orks paint their modems red?

>>50580535
I can't imagine how much fun being an Ork exploring daemon worlds would be. Also lmao at dumb slaneesh cunts even trying to seduce them.

>>50580050
as did Horus, didn't mean he didn't FUCK UP THE IMPERIUM

>>50581258
That's what Necrons are for.

>>50581004

The people who think 40k is expensive are the fags who buy a box every week and then turn up to their FLGS with various stages of assembled and undercoated models.
50 dollars is nothing if you spend that maybe once per three-four weeks.

>>50581051

>gothic settings

Who said 40k is gothic? GW slammed together all the sci-fi and ___-punk shit they could into their lore. None of it belongs more than others, you just hear more about the gothic, baroque side of things in the process of imperiumwanking which is a huge chunk of the fluff.

>>50578097
orks are gunline with assault to finish

if you're not winning like that you don't know how to play them, sounds like you're going full assault, which is a mistake

orks are not full assault

orks are weight of fire, templates and a big ass-fuck waaagh when you're in position

stop spending all your points on nobs and learn to play

>>50584175
I don't play tabletop.

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>>50578835
>(space elves and orcs are not only anachronistic but they just feel too out of place in 40k to be interesting)

Warhammer 40k is Warhammer Fantasy Battle in space you retarded stupid idiot.

It's ALWAYS been science fantasy.

>>50581160
Holy shit you are beyond autistic. I cannot believe the bullshit I'm reading in this thread.

Do you seriously fucking think people just want to play humans only? How Fucking boring is that. Just because your LGS is all chaos and imperial sperglords doesn't mean the rest of the world is. Heaps of cunts play, collect and enjoy the many races of 40K and they are clearly integral to the story, game, universe and background.

You are hopelessly autistic. And that's even compared to the autism that is 4chan.

>>50578394
Ghazzy easily had the chance to kill Yarrick but decided against it because fighting Yarrick is just too much fun.

Orks can't lose. They either win, or die doing what they love, and come back in a swarm twice as big.

>>50585869
Can orks die of old age and do they degrade with age? Do Orks just get bigger and tougher the longer they survive, as a rule, and does this have an upper limit? I'm sure lore answers this but I can't recall any

>>50586655
>Can orks die of old age and do they degrade with age?
No.

>Do Orks just get bigger and tougher the longer they survive, as a rule, and does this have an upper limit?
They do become more stronger the more they live, fight, and win. Nobody knows if there is a limit in ork strenght, but this being 40K the asnwer may be no.

>>50580058
You need to fix the chronic problems in the core system, but none of the idiots they have now are capable. Either that or they are not given enough time/resources to do a halfway decent job.

>>50580578
>40k isn't unplayably unbalanced
Imagine a group starting. The players pick eldar, ig and Orks. Tell me with a straight face that every match won't be decided before deployment.

>>50588922
>The players pick eldar, ig and Orks.
Honestly, it depends on the edition they're playing and the list they're going with.

>>50589330
Current edition, I challenge you to make an eldar list that will lose to Orks. Or an Ork army that can stand up to a list made by randomly picking units from the eldar codex.

>>50590314
I'm an old school Eldar player, I haven't played their latest edition. But 5th Edition, I challenge you to pick an Eldar list that will win against Orks (actually, I think there was a period where Orks and Eldar were equally unloved by the devs.

I think a majority of the Editions, IG would have won hands down unless they played a novelty list.

>>50585319
>and they are clearly integral to the story, game, universe and background.
If by clearly you mean they die a lot to make Marines look good.

>>50583513
He didn't. Imperium was absolutely fine 1000 years latter experiencing what it called a Golden Age. Beast and Horus just lost. They attacked, got their asses kicked, and the Imperiun won again.

The Imperium never loses a major war, only other factions are allowd to suffer major losses.

>>50578097
Call me when your faction gets to Holy Terra bug lover.

>>50578097
They aren't as big of a threat or immediate threat as nids no. BUT they have been a constant threat to the imperium for thousands of years and despite the imperiums best efforts they seem to be unable to cleanse the galaxy of them

We've seen what orks look like when they start approaching their max potential, in the form of the Beast and his WAAAGH!!! What would the Tyranid equivalent of that look like?

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>>50578097
What do you want? Warhammer: Age of the Emperor?

>>50579846
Then stop playing 40k you cockgarbling autist.

>>50588922
So Eldar, the Xenos army, wins every time, with IF and Orks being more equal.

>>50581004
Dude.

a PS4pro plus an additonal pad plus two games will cost like $400, you can easily make a 2000 point army for that.

>>50590314
Forgeworld Biker army is actually really fucking strong.

But then again, people like you whine about Forgeworld.

>>50581470
You made the claim first, fuckboy. Source it or fuck off.

>>50578835
its a copypasta

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>>50584175
>no reckless charge with Zhadsnark and warbikers blobs

>>50578495
My melanin enriched Battle Brother

>>50581160
>Main nids
>Have secondary nurgle daemons, dark eldar and some small ork forces

NO ONE cares about xenos right?

>>50594318
>Sizeable portion.
Learn to read.

Also I'm sorry for you but its no my fault you chose factions that only lose. You should have chosen Marines and been more than a punching bag.

>>50592884
Actually Age of Sigmar is way better for giving other people spotlight than 40k as it is now is.

I mean in Age of Sigmar we've already had Gordrakk win two decisive victories over his foes (no running away and trying again, he just beats them and wins the battle). We've got Chaos actually winning substantive engagements to (not just retreating and then claiming they won because they stole some doodad).

For all its faults Age of Sigmar does at least do much better to give a fair degree of shine, importance and victories to all factions (though I'm not disputing Sigmarines still get it the most).

40k on the other hand has every single major engagement always be won by the Imperium and the primary other characters, Ghazghkull, Eldrad, Abaddon, Imotehk, Swarmlord have never managed to have meaningful victories of any sort.

Since this is an Ork thread I'll just focus on Ghazzghkull though. He's meant to be the primary Ork character in fluff, the equivalent to their Calgar, yet compared to Calgar's list of feats (which are long) Ghazghkull's only victory ever has been defeating Yarrick on Golgotha.

Ghazghkull has literally lost ever single battle he's ever had with any Space Marines. They always beat him.

Gordrakk on the other hand has defeated Sigmarines before and won the battle for the Maw Gate.

Didn't primordials make orks to fight something that was killing them?

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>>50580535
Holy fucking shit. Orks know how to have fun

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>this whole fucking thread

This is why I'll play games with you at the FLGS, but will never actually socialize or befriend you.

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>>50580756
Okay, even ignoring all the other shit, even if ALL your other bullshit isn't bait, do,you honestly think that tourneyfags don't enjoy army diversity? You see, I have extensive experience in the WH40K tournament scene. I've attended the majority of the ITC tournaments for the past several years. In fact, just last year at the Las Vegas Open, I brought my retarded White Scars and Wolves list (I know, I'm part of the problem) and placed in the top 100. You know how many marine lists I played? One. At tourneys, especially at the higher tables, list diversity is crucial to success, and while lots of marine armies are a given, the balance is far more in favor of lists with excellent synergy than simple marine spam.

>inb4 liar
Blah blah artistic works blah blah fool to take anything posted here as fact
>inb4 anecdotal
Look up the fucking results man, they get posted online.