/bbg/ Blood Bowl General - Open Signups Edition

vampires are communists

>>50542880
Goblins box when

Can anyone get a death zone scan or screen shot PDF from the app up please??? ;-;

SEASON VI WHEN?

besides big guys, name situations where you don't want plus strength

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=915691

Stunty semifinals: Warped and Wracked vs. Fun Herders

>>50543434
70k 5235 snotling.

>>50542835
>Blodge on big guys
is better than pro then?

>>50543583

When you have Stand Firm to start with?

That's literally Anything But a 6 to do ANYTHING, on a player who you need at least two other players as well as your blocker to get 2 dice against, and that's just my Str4 Flesh Golem.
I've seen coaches lose their shit over that guy and waste an entire line of scrimmage trying to put that Golem down, and even when they did finally get him down, he goes down without moving, so they still need to go around his square and into other tacklezones.

Skills on skinks?

>>50544253
No.

>>50544253
Diving tackle, catch, sidestep or diving catch.

>>50544253
top kek!

>>50544350
Is Hand-off useful?

>>50544385
Yes Handing iff is very good. You want your skinks reasonably spread out and handing off at the eight time can be a game changer. If you want a hand off go for diving catch for 2+ or catch.

>>50544636
Diving Catch does nothing for handoffs.

>>50543400
Sorry about the delay. I have been focused on the Reddit league and didn't have time to read your PM's and such.

I will get to it when Reddit league is over.

Cheers,
Mauled

Had a rather busy weekend actually painting miniatures.

I'll do a checklist tomorrow evening, and we'll kick off /tg/ FUMBBL League VI for the weekend.

>>50544819
When do signups close?

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>>50544810

>>50544891

Like I say, weekend we'll start playing so Thursday.

It'll be the usual, I'll look Friday at getting even numbers in both leagues and reject dead-on-arrival applications etc.

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>>50544927
Thanks for the date, now I can procrastinate my application

>>50544819
Please save the checklist for the lock-in. Faggots will tryhard and choose the best team against all the teams signed up.

>>50544999
This

>>50544649
that's not true, diving catch adds +1 to catch an accurate pass, a hand-off is considered an accurate pass

>>50545230
You might think so, but it doesn't work in practice.

>>50543149
Why don't you do it instead of begging in every thread?

It's a dirty game
It's a dirty world
I rolled boxcars on a niggled witch
Ain't no telling what I'd do for that SPP
And when it comes to rolling snakes I got a major

>>50545230
I always assumed that 'accurate pass' was 'a person who passes with "accurate"'

>>50544350
Jump up?

Thinking of making my human team green and yellow like the comic/novel teams.

What colors should I make my Orc team?

>>50545798
You should try actually reading the rules, then.

>>50545841

Purple and yellow for accurate rivalries.

Is four gutter runners typical for a Skaven team?

>>50546090
yes. they're your best players

>>50546102
eh, I'd say the storm vermin are the best players, but the gunners aren't bad that's for sure

Alright, Domunperg, I'm spinning right now.

>>50545846
>Has seen anything outside of BBII

Jokes on you, a pleb like me just stole all your advice.

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If you can play tabletop Blood Bowl, check your ableist privilege

>>50547103
???

>>50547103
what is fluid intelligence

>>50547103
what tumblr is this from?

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>>50547131
>>50547138
>>50547173
Blood Bowl accessibility review

http://meeplelikeus.co.uk/blood-bowl-2016-accessibility-teardown/

>>50547286
" It’s certainly not for everyone though – you need a fair degree of psychic armour to weather the storm of vindictive fate at the very least"

brb collecting my veterans welfare check because I suffered PTSD from my 0 spp halfling dying.

as far as I can tell "fluid intelligence" is just, "Are you a retard"

and this guy is saying that, if you're a retard, there's no way you can play bloodbowl

consider it the highschool GED check

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>>50547334
Help! I want to play blood bowl but i only have the pic related piece of the set. Where to get others?

>>50547483
fluid intelligence is the ability to reason etc
crystalized intelligence is knowledge base you have acquired throughout development

>>50547587
What's gas intelligence? And solid intelligence? What about plasma intelligence?

>>50547587
yeah but there isn't a single game in the world where the ability to reason will allow you to play, every game requires crystal intelligence to LEARN THE RULES

>>50547502

They're level upgrades you can pick from the following sources

>4+ Years playing the game in a league IRL
>Supporting a local sports team that is awful. Such as say Portsmouth Football Club, or the Cleaveland Browns.
> Repeatedly voting for the Liberal Democrats
> 4+ Months playing DOTA or similar
> Have ever played Rugby

The match you've been all waiting for:

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=915808

>>50547103
>isnt accessible to fluid intelligence
>emotionally challenging
Guess i am not picking this game to play with my wife's son

>>50547859
>Guess i am not picking this game to play with my wife's son
made me chuckle, or is it cuckle

>>50547286
>teams built around player synergies like the goblins.

>>50547847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wYC0fAVL0E

Game theme for the edgiest stunties around

>>50545816
No. If you are going down as a skink, relying on getting back up is a no show.

>>50545904
Is that a B5 reference?

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>>50548151

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>>50548151
Fuck forgot pic related.

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I havn't seen that wallpaper on the website until today. Dwarf team soon?

>>50548265
it should be next kit out. also nice to see hoagie ref in the art.

>>50545904
It's purple and green you dumb shit.

>>50548265
that wall paper was emailed to you (if you signed up to be spammed by gw) like a month ago

>>50548417
Wtf?!? Maybe he is color blind. Check ur ableitist priviledge shitlord.

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After an exciting game that wasn't conclusive up until the ref's whistle, the game of Pawnchingpeeptl and Lazy Drunks ended in a thrilling 1-1 draw.

>>50548589
gg m8

>>50548670
GG, some people complain about matches v Dwarves but that was heartpounding at times.

Also, I can't seem to be able to type anything after the ref whistle, is this intentional?

>>50548739
the game server drops the game as soon as the turn ends, so you gotta get your GGs in before the TD/Risky Stuff

>>50547103
how does colour blindness factor in at all? all the players have the exact same colour scheme forcing you to tell them apart by the spikes on their shoulderpads or lack thereof
i would've given it an F on emotiveness though, people will get ptsd from playing blood ball for too long
also what the fuck is fluid intelligence
i would've assumed that socioeconomic and memory would both be f cosidering the ridiculous amount of obscure rules and how expensive it is to build a single team, let alone a couple dozen
if you're blind you could always replace the players with shapes, square for lineman, star for blitzer etc

>>50548861
I think it can be argued that you are supposed to paint the miniatures, and if you're colorblind or shit, you can paint them with colors you can see, so you'd differentiate them.

If I don't understand half of these criteria in this "accessibility review". It actually feels like satire.

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>>50547847
Game ends 2-0 in favor of the Chaos All Star Juniors, cultivated from what Lord Borak calls:

"A salubrious slaughter send off for those young ones coming of age."

I've never gotten a trophy before, how do I post the image onto my team bio?

>>50548956
Take the code from the place with the trophy and put it in your bio.

>>50548956
Well, I guess I have, there's just no trophy image for Secret League

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>>50548265
>mfw that Stormveemin blade

WHAT THE FUCK?! HOW IS THAT LEGAL?

My accessibility review for 4chan.org:

Colour Blindness: A
You can change the custom themes and shit yo

Eye Strain: D--
Staring at computers is bad

Fluid Intelligence: Remedial
Lots of unwritten rules, contracting opinions

Safe Space: Minus Gamma
Very aggressive and mean words, you will get PTSD

SJW Cuck Test: Fail
Lots of immature, uneducated alt-right trolls who will insinuate that you're not as good as them merely because your wife fucks other men.

>>50548980
Looks like I broke that page last time I updated the obits. Gimme a sec

>>50545252
Obviously because I don't fucking have it -.-

>>50549033
>-.-
You have to go back

>>50548990
It's really not, just GW forgetting that you're supposed to use your body as a weapon as Nuffle decrees. Decorative spikes and the occasional knuckle duster are permitted, but this is an oversight caused by wanting to "look cool" as it were.

>>50548956
>People say bb isnt accessible to special needs / fluid intelligence
>Ram gets a trophy
/tg/ league and Mauled given Accessible Gaming Environment award when?

>>50549000
winners page is back up

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>>50548990
I hate how the new Blood Bowl miniatures have clear cut WEAPONS. Or is that in some way not a foreign object that he's carrying.

The videogame has absolutely no weapons except mugs for dwarves or players who always cheat (assassins),

>>50549365
I wish the human blitzers were the only ones with the knuckle blades, as I find them pretty hard to differentiate from the standard linesmen desu.

>>50549436
If I understood the figures correctly, the blitzers have a massive spike (blade?) that resembles a griffin's head in the middle of their helmets, it's HUGE. Linemen also have it, but it's significantly smaller.

Differentiating them is the reason I started painting these teams I wasn't too keen on playing.

>>50548151
>>50548417

The human team in question is an expy of the Green Bay Packers. So the Orcs should be the Minnesota Vikings.

>>50549365

Yeah, a lot in our local league are saying that a LOT of the fist spikes are gonna get a substantial trim. Lord knows what they're gonna do for the Skaven ones though.

I mean, we let Morg get away with it because he's Morg. Are YOU going to be the ref to tell Morg'n'Thorg that his fist spike is clearly a fucking cutlas attached to a plate?

>>50549785
Yeah, Star Players are fine. What's not fine is my Blood Bowl figures looking like they're from Age Of Sigmar with weirder armor.

>>50549365
old gw bb models had the punching daggers

>>50550024
again, old bb models had the punching daggers

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>>50550058
>>50550024
>>50549525
>>50549365

>thinking size matters

>>50549033
Buy it then you fucking peasant.

Put money in to the game or GW will do what GW does and fuck it over with lack of support.

Arhkam Crawlers coach, when are you available?

>>50550024

The only model that really looks like it's from AoS is that one Slayer with the apparently prehensile beard.

Coach of Grundlepunch, hit me up on Fumbbl with when you can play

https://fumbbl.com/~Big_Moth

Just got a 12 on my human lineman, should I go for +1 strength right away or something else?

>>50551126
whoops, I forgot to mention, it's his first level up.

>>50551126

I'd go for the Str increase myself. At Str4 it makes it all the harder to sack him if he's the ball carrier, and he's hitting harder for CAS results as well.

Of course next level up you give him Block and suchlike after that it depends on how he's doing and what you feel like you're comfortable using him for.

>>50551126
Yes.

How to Nurgle vs Dark Elf?

>>50551240
High TV, stick close and focus on taking down important targets.
Low to middle TV, cry and pray for sixes.

>>50551240

Pray for Pouring Rain.

>>50551185
>>50551192
I thought, so but I just wanted to check.

Are the new 2016 rules in the OP?

quick, name the best inducements against elves and rats

>>50551663
bribes

>>50551723
>i accidentally skilled some random shit instead of dirty player on my lineman who levelled up
end me
would it be ridiculous to get helmut wulf as a substitute to a bribe and a fouler?

>tfw you get out fucking bashed by a bret team

>>50550288
Sorry for the delay, I'm ready now.

>>50551806
Why? They're a solid bash team...

Both the new rulebook and the Death zone book can be found here

https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!qwI3RJTL

>>50551752
no Helmut in new rules

>>50551858
THANK YOU!!!

>>50551838
I was playing undead. All game I KO'd 1 lino, killed a lino, and killed a blocker appo'd into badly hurt.

Where as I had all 3 ghouls injured or KO'd (KO'd more than once). Both wights KO'd at least once. A mommy KO'd and injured. A niggled zombie. And ended the game with like 4 guys on the pitch when I had 12 overall

>>50551858
You know anon, you're a pretty cool guy

>>50552029
I've got an Undead team myself. Bret's are a team I tend to struggle against because they're bashier due to the fact they've got a lot of bash pieces.

Just feed them zombies, have your Mummies run about together bashing everything they can reach, use your Wights to blitz/block with zombie assists, and your Ghouls to get TD's or to keep the ball away.

In fact, that's pretty much how I generally play Undead.

Watching the Miniwargaming Blood Bowl league.
>Game 1 Dark Elves vs Chaos
>Standard Chaos setup crowding the LOS
>Dark Elves set up on LOS

I don't even...

>>50551827
I can't do now, what timezone are you in and what at days/times can you play

>>50552360
>watching mormonwargaming

>>50552467
No problem. I can do Wed/Thurs 6-11pm or Fri 6-9pm EST (UTC -5).

>>50551960
but i'm playing on fumbbl
and they haven't implemented the new rules
but if helmut is leaving then it leaves me no choice but to hire him

>they removed the wizzie
lads?
i swore by that man for years, he won me so many games (and lost me more)

>>50552592
Let's do Fri 24:00 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-SlHuQGkRQ

you can now add petty cash to gain inducement money without benefiting your opponent in any way, but simply allowing yourself to purchase something with your stored cash?

>>50549365
>The videogame has absolutely no weapons except mugs for dwarves or players who always cheat
And Morg 'n Thorg, Jordell Freshbreeze, Grashnak Blackhoof, Lord Borak, Zara the Slayer, Amazon blitzers and almost every single Dark Elf player... That's just off the top of my head.

Sharp and pointy things on fists and forearms have been part of the game since day 1, and have shown up in every single medium, regardless of whether or not the player has Secret Weapon or Dirty Player

Weeping Armor Decorations when

Anyone have some good names for a lizardmen team?

So far ive got

The Inca-dinka-dinos
The Tlaxinton Redskinks
The Marshland Maulers

Anyone else?

>>50553888
The New World Air and Space Administration?

>>50553888
You're a lizard Harry

>>50552360

> Watching guys that have a consistent series called "Rules you got wrong"

Better to give dodge or catch to an ork blitzer?

>>50555870
dodge 85% of the time

>>50555977
100%
Why the fuck would you give a blitzer catch?

are there no rules for lizards and regular chaos teams in the new 2016 book?

>>50556543

There's an errata for using the old teams, but nothing outside of the names of players has been updated and the teams may see changes when they are supported with a book release.

>>50553888
The Meso Hornies
Five on the brink, one on the skink
Cold-blooded Killers

>>50556692
is that someplace? I've never played BB before, looking to get into it.

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>>50556872

At the bottom of the Rules Errata page on GW's website.

But I've just posted it for you here.

>>50556692
>may see changes with a book release

I would only imagine the slightest of tweaks like the gutter runner blades. Fundamentally the same id wager.

>>50556532
So... catch on gobbos, or just play like a dwarf?

>>50557391
Catch on gobbos for an emergency one turn touchdown. Otherwise blast your way upfield like a dwarf.

>>50548861
The rarest form of colour blindness makes blue and green indistinguishable. As he points out the teams look quite different and are meant to be painted.

I think tbe article was pretty accuarate - if you have problems with your eye sight, memory, motor skills, reasoning skills, emotional problems or are dirt poor then blood bowl may be challenging for you.

>>50557877
>I think tbe article was pretty accuarate - if you have problems with your eye sight, memory, motor skills, reasoning skills, emotional problems or are dirt poor then blood bowl may be challenging for you.

explains why the /tg/ fumbbl is so trash

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>>50547103
It's almost like people enjoy games which are more challenging.

Is it too late the join the league? I have a human team good to go.

>>50558573
No

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>>50544810
>Sorry about the delay. I have been focused on the Reddit league and didn't have time to read your PM's and such.

>>50556935
>Khemri

>Relative new comers

FUCK YOU GW.

>>50558573

No, check out the FUMBBL group in the OP

to wiz or not to wiz

>>50561170
wiz, and if the league commissioner tells you that wizards aren't in the new rulebook slap him with it.

>>50561275
wizzies are great

>>50561170
>>50561275
Wizards are shit. Cards the best

so GW are doing models for humans dwarfs skaven and orcs

what are the ones FW's doing?

I'm probably gonna go human for my first team anyway but cool to consider other options

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>>50561899
I heard a few threads back they were doing conversion kits to make "famous teams". Since all the heads on the human team are separate, I'm imagining they'll make helmets that don't have those godawful Rocketeer crests. I don't think it'd be strange for them to release a line of Star Players (or dare I dream, create some entirely new Stars!). They're definitely doing at least one Nurgle model though.
Personally I'd love to see them revisit the style of the last batch of Human models.

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Been getting back into BB after ages and I got thinking bout some things in fluff I never thought about.

- When someone scores a touchdown in the game, play stops and that player, even if one of two left vs a team of orcs on his tail, survives. Inverse how would this work?

- Most skills are straight forward in how they would work in practice, but guard seems a bit weird. A big guy standing in a scrum with his pals has guard and somehow gives his side a constant advantage via assists. Whats up there?

- Why dont players just straight up kill the ref if he gives them a red card?

Raid Boss vs Traditional Cheating

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=916096

>>50563083

>When someone scores a touchdown in the game, play stops and that player, even if one of two left vs a team of orcs on his tail, survives. Inverse how would this work?

Presumably the refs would penalize the orcs who kept mauling the other players.

>Most skills are straight forward in how they would work in practice, but guard seems a bit weird. A big guy standing in a scrum with his pals has guard and somehow gives his side a constant advantage via assists. Whats up there?

He's gotten so good at brawling that he can keep his foe at bay while taking shots at his pal's targets.

>Why dont players just straight up kill the ref if he gives them a red card?

This happens all the time, it doesn't mean the player is unbanned, another ref just steps in. This sort of thing is also why refs are notoriously blind to fouls and other forms of cheating.

>>50563083
>>50563083
> he throws the ball at the chasers after touchdown and scarpers?

> i have no fucking clue

> the refs are tough women who can floor an ogre with one punch

>>50563405
New Bloodbowl kiddies need not apply.

Friendly reminder Bertha is a big beautiful ogress

Raid Boss vs Traditional Cheating

ends 2-1 in favor of Lumbria after overtime shots

>>50563084

>I'll reroll a vanity pass going into overtime! Nothing bad will come of this!
>16 eternities later...
>shoot out roll (6) = 6
>shoot out roll (6) + (1 reroll) = 7
>Raid Boss wins

>>50563084
Raid Boss wins 2-1 due to shootouts. And I had that game too if it weren't for those fucking shootouts and those fucking skulls.

>>50563832
No
You fucked up
Big time

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>>50563821
With equally quality teams it was obvious that this was going to be a game of skill and wits. Both coaches brought their A game, with strategems that left the specs confused.
In the end, SKILL won the game.

>>50563867
How do penalty shootouts work? Isnt a draw a draw?

>>50564024
>Isnt a draw a draw?
Yeah, let's just let both (none?) of the teams advance to the next round in knockout.

>>50564024
if it's an elimination game you can't draw, so you go into overtime. if no teams score after 16 turns then there are penalty shootouts where you roll a die. you get +1 for each reroll you have left. whoever wins the roll wins the game.

>>50564055
>>50564070
Aaaah ok. Thanks. Thought it was some new rule for standard games.

>Play Blood Bowl 2
>My new Dark Elves vs Brets
>Opponent concedes on Turn 6

Guess there must be a lot of new players brought in by BB2016...

>>50564500
Like you? BB2 hasbeen like that from the start.

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Stunty finals on sunday 18:00 server time

Will Sas crown himself Stunty king, or will Ram grab another champion trophy? Tune in for what some people are calling "Stunty ruination", "Stunty was a mistake", and "No Fun Allowed"

>>50550400
Sent something yesterday. You get it?

>>50564500
concession rate is 60% in open ladder

>>50546309
Capable of scoring in one turn, gutter runners are your friend

>>50561589
which cards?

>>50564534
Been playing since release on and off, not played online for a while because my internet wasn't that great.
>>50565029
I'd have expected it to be higher desu.

Guy was definitely new though, kept putting 3 dudes on a guy to block.

is BB2 gud?

>>50567418
yes

>>50567418
it's flawed but it has the biggest online community for playing bloodbowl

and it doesn't look like ebola

>>50567418
git it and find out.

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Right, here's where I'm at

I've got an empty inbox so if you're not on this list, please PM me.

>>50567791
>he post the chart for the fags

>>50567916
>3 Pro Elves, 2 Slann, 2 Chaos Pact in rookies
he should have posted it earlier

I just noticed that the Human and Orc teams in the starter box aren't even close to 1000 TV. What do I do if my friend brings a 1000TV team against me?

>>50567977
Only the literal whos didn't know who was playing what already.

>>50568033
you're forgetting rerolls

>>50568053
3 and 2 recommended rerolls still bring the value to 900, unless I am awfully miscalculating. In case I'm not, bringing 5 rerolls against 4 gutter runners seems an awful mismatch.

What should I do for models if I am interested in playing Amazons, Lizards or Chaos?

>>50568084
If you have some spare parts/green stuff you can probably convert two of the human linemen into blitzers. I'd try and find an ogre as well.

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>>50567791
>chopa will fill out either division

>>50568033
Humans
>2 Blitzers
>2 Throwers
>2 Catchers
>6 Linos
>4 Rerolls
>6 FF
>1000TV

Orcs
>2 Blitzers
>2 Black Orcs
>2 Throwers
>6 Linos
>3 Rerolls
>6 FF
>1000TV

Taken from the rosters on the official BB app.

>>50568164
buy amazons, lizards or chaos which you like the look of

>>50567791
Snorkland already played 3 consecutive seasons. They shouldn't be able to play this season.

>>50568165
Alright thanks.Looks like that I'll have to try converting for once. Lineman -> Blitzer and Lineman -> Black Orc (Or Blitzer) shouldn't be too hard, right?

>>50568200
a 4 Reroll 6 FF Human team is as likely to win a match as my team in the BB II league is.

>>50568224
Good eye anon.

>>50568231
>a 4 Reroll 6 FF Human team is as likely to win a match as my team in the BB II league is.

4 is the highest amount of rerolls I'd take on any team.

>>50568224

I had my suspicions, the red dots are teams I have to look at that for. Cheers anon.

>>50568171
its that or I get my goblins turned down again.

>>50553888
Reptile Dysfunction

>>50568033
5/4 RR humans/orcs are ok, so is grabbing an APO. FF is less useful than it used to be.

>>50568231
What I did is I used two human heads with no helmets for my two blitzers (I'm also going to paint the bases silver for blitzers, brown for throwers, etc.) Black orcs are fairly easy assuming you paint your models (i'd use the orc lineman with his hand up and outstretched as it has a similar pose to the black orc model) just paint the skin dark.

>>50567791

Snorkland Soulless had 3 seasons, didn't they? How are they playing a 4th season without a break first?

>>50569520
>>50568725
>>50568224

>never played elves
>just made a high elf team
what am i in for?

>>50569898
Depends, what were you playing before?

I used to play bash heavy teams and found I prefer the Elf playstyles because you're doing more than just hitting the other guy.

>>50569990
i've been playing a lot of human recently, before that it was pure bash

>>50570022
If you've got experience with humans then you should do alright with HElves. Just remember that your Catchers can actually catch, and 4Ag let's you make dodges you wouldn't have considered with Humans.

Other than that make sure you pick your fights, and you should be alright.

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>high elves above necro, woodies, and undead
>high elves top 3

This is the Orca Cola league win rates, what the fuck?

>>50570287
I assume that the Helf coach is better than the Welf ones.

>>50571284
This is among all coaches for like 23 seasons

>>50571405
armour 7 is a huge drawback for seasonal play

it also could be the case that the coaches are taking treemen to make their line more stable for seasonal play

remember that welfs are only super dominant in Resurrection tournaments

>>50571405
I stand by my statement.

What companies make good blood bowl models? I don't want to kitbash a team together.

>>50573097
gw

>>50573097
Depends on which teams you're looking for. What are you looking at playing, anon?

>>50573097
Willy/Impact/Starplayer/Meiko/Vortice/Rolljordan/Greebo/HungryTroll are generally top of the game.

>when you lose a game because you fail eight pickup attempts in turns 1-4 (thanks sure hands)

is it worth it to let the opponent go from 150k to 200k inducements to have an additional lineman?

>>50574172
in general no, if your opponent has a good amount of frenzy or mighty blow then maybe

heck, if your opponent is bashy the 200k is probably bad either way, giving them more bribes or a card in addition to the wizard is pretty bad

>>50574202
that's what i figured, wanted to doublecheck though
he's not particularly bashy, only one mighty blow piling on player, but i love fouling and if someone gets sent off a reserve is nice
that said i'll probably decide to boot all extras anyway, i don't want hmi to get extra cards or stuff, maybe he will waste all his cash on bloodweiser babes because of my bashy players

so should i buy the new BB game or is my group staying with the now old rules?

models look pretty cool

>>50574240
yeah, it's really situational though, there are times where the 12th man is really valuable

I don't think anyone is stupid enough to buy babes before useful things like bribes/cards/re-rolls/apo

>>50574256
at worst you get a pitch, most of two teams, dice, range templates, scatter templates, some good coins and markers, balls, cards for inducements

so yeah, I'd say buy it

>>50574202
Inducements have a pretty good chance to be worth and if you're not a sturdy team an extra body can make the difference. If he already has 150k, 200k is not much of a difference unless that makes him able to afford an annoying star player or something.

>>50574656
>to be worth
*worthless

>>50574665
>>50574656

Not if you take the right inducements my man, giving someone an extra card is not something to be trifled with. The jump from 150 to 200 is pretty significant, possibly allowing for two bribes or a mixture of cards.

A bribe and two cards could have quite the swing

>>50574699
>A bribe and two cards could have quite the swing
Yeah, or it COULD have no effect. That's the thing.

>>50574708
a bribe is very consistent, and if the opponent has any DPs he could very well double down on the bribes and go to town stomping on necks.

If the original anon doesn't even have a DP why does he need the 12th player? Greed, that's why.

You know what has 0 impact? A 12th player on the bench for the whole game. You might never even have your player's armour broken and then he's just bloat.

besides, do you really want to give them two shots at drawing a card which could have a huge impact?

what's a good wood elf team for tabletop?

>>50574746
So your opponent is likely to buy a bribe and already has a stronger team than you and you think having more than 11 players is worthless? Keep in mind you don't give them 200k inducements by doing that, you give them a single card extra. Most of them are garbage or extremely situational in my experience. Enemy breaking your armor is way more likely than drawing a good card.

>>50574768
well you're giving up inducements and given that the anon is considering fouling he probably has a bashy team to begin with, now given that he's giving up inducement money it's safe to assume he has more block+guard than the opponent

since the gap is so large there's probably a double or two, meaning blodge or even block on a big guy which should do wonders for minimizing incoming blocks as is

>>50574934
You can speculate all you want, but that doesn't mean anything if we don't know the context. On average you usually lose at least one player over the course of the game and on average an extra player is bound to be more reliable than a 50k inducement.

>>50574957
>On average you usually lose at least one player over the course of the game

That's just not true

>>50574964
Except it is.

>>50574967
There are many many games where I haven't had an injury with AV8, and even more where AV9 never dented.

Especially if you play conservatively with the sidelines

>>50574980
Nice anecdotal evidence there. Games without a single KO or injury throughout 16 turns are rarities and not something you plan on happening. But enjoy your exploding runes and stolen playbooks while I have a safety in case rolls go terrible.

>>50575000
>anecdotal evidence
just like yours

>while I have safety in case rolls go terrible
oops thrown rock your guy died and then your three guys on the LOS also died
aka: Fuck you, you're a cunt and you talk like someone who only played BBCE and BB2 where inducements are a joke

>>50575023
Nice, call me some more names.

>>50575076
>>50575000
>>50574967
>>50574957
>>50574708

crikey you must have a lot of friends

>>50575598
same dude

>>50575023
>aka: Fuck you, you're a cunt

Are you the same thin-skinned autist who seems to sperg out in every thread? Can you please get a trip so I can filter you.

>>50576325
Yeah, I feel every time there's an argument like that it's the same guy. When he has nothing left to say he goes full shitpost.

>>50567791
There really should just be a hard reset with the 3 season rule.

>>50542980
Honestly? Probably never, since we're at 3/3 teams, and probably 4/4 once dwarves release, that are two identical sprues of 6 players each. The only way Goblins would fit that is if they got nothing but normal goblins, with all the special weapons being single models.

>>50576333
We all know who it is, just wait a week and he should complain about being banned from /co/ again.

>>50568200
and for the skaven and dwarf team?

I want to make a little competition with my friends and I need the 4 teams to be "balanced"

>>50577415
He wouldn't complain about BB2 babbies though because he's one of the worst offenders.

do loners need to roll to use bribes?

>>50578026
They need to roll a 2+ like every player, but loner only applies to team rerolls (and leader I guess).

>>50577817
what about chaos edition babbies, are we safe?

>>50578089
Chaos Edition never has as many concedes as BB2 did.

>>50578863
i never conceded a match and because i'm a retard the two first teams i played a lot of was chaos and goblins
by god would i stay for every last turn no matter what happened to me

my welfs have five skill ups, so I took three guard, mb and +ma

sad that I only had 4 double rolls (treeman is one of the guard pieces), wardancer was the first skill up and he nabbed mighty blow.

Human Wood Elves are strong

>>50579081
"only 4 double rolls"
meanwhile my team has a bunch of level 5 players with no doubles or stat ups
okay i got one strength up recently but still

So I want to make a cup (BBII) which pushes skill play and high scores, and therefore doesn't accept stuff like Chaos, Dwarves or Orcs

1. Would that make me a pussy?
2. Where should the cutoff be?
Will Norse/Humans/Brets still make for fun gameplay?

>>50579477
>he wants no bash
The idea doesn't work because the next most bashy teams will just become bash teams anyways.

>>50579477
you don't sound skilled enough to make a cup

>>50579477
It makes you a reasonable person that wants to enjoy the game.

>>50579477
>>50579490
>>50579495
>>50579496

....
>2. ?

>>50579212

You don't need a lot doubles/stats to make a good team.

https://fumbbl.com/p/team?team_id=823193

>>50579477
What jinda skill are you talking about? The skill of rolling a 4+ pass and a couple of dodges?

Of praying your opponent doesn't break AV7?

Dwarves require a lot of positioning skills to prevent breakouts and pass plays.

If you want to play a no bash league, just say it. The easiest way to do it is just run short leagues with fresh teams each time. Bashier teams need skills to be effective

>>50579477
>skill play
>doesnt exclude agi4 teams

It makes you a pussy retard for sure

>>50579650
HAHAHAHAH

do you ignore doubles on elf blitzers?

>>50579673
Fuck no, both guard and mighty blow are good, depending on your playstyle.

>>50579477
>Skill and high-scores

Then ban any race except one, like half-elfs. This way, everything will be most dependant on the player's skill and it will be retarded

>>50575000
Trips of tears

>>50579673
Juggernaut.

>>50579642
Tell me the skill in making a 10-wide wall of dwarfs with guard/MB, slowly lawnmowing through everything in front of you and waiting for halftime.

>>50579858
lol. if you just make a straight wall of dwarfs you're going to lose. atleast play the team before you assume how it works.

>>50579888
... Clearly you haven't spent much time on COL.

Heck, if they don't pussy out by half time I've done my job wrong.

>>50579921
i mean if you play against the shitters in bb2 open leagues of course you can win with anything, i was more talking about semi competent players

>>50579820
juggernaut sounds interesting and fun, i should go with it

is there ever a case to be made for +av? i don't believe it
should +mv be taken whenever it can?

>>50580016
You're being memed on. It only has any usefulness if you already have frenzy / strip ball.

>>50580016
Jugger + Stripball + Tackle

>>50580032
MA is weird. You want it on people you want faster, but don't get better value. MA4 to 5 is pretty shit, but anything MA7 and more getting +MA is pretty good. It also depends on the type of player.

>>50580047
>not picking movement on black orcs when presented

>>50580035
>>50580037
Jugg/Frenz/Strip/Tackle

At that point your player is Lvl 5 and hasn't rolled a single stat up yet.
Want block with that?

>>50580064
I'd rather a skill.

>>50580032
I took +AV on a Welf punching bag and his survival so far has impressed me.

>>50580095
>putting all that on a lineman

>>50580095
>Taking block on a ball sacker

>>50580037
Do you need tackle if you're taking strip?

>>50579618

He's got a fair amount of them in there. Even Tendril would never turn down a blodge skink.

>>50580187
It doesn't do anything for the combo so you don't really need it, but it helps.

>>50580187
Sure Hands

>>50579618
Just ignore the Block skinks and +MA players

>>50580203

Two doubles and two stats. In 30+ skills.

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I'm making a comeback to the league with my old team, so who are the big boys in the veteran league now?

>>50580330
I think he got a double or two on sauruses but he ignored it.

>>50580352
Tooby's Elves, everyone else is exhausted.

>>50577412
It is only the first season so there is still a chance. The fact one guy in white dwarf is using them gives me hope.

>>50580352
Vets are going to be as good as it's going to get this season.

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>>50580352
Kangz are the big boys

>>50579490

This. If you don't have Chaos of any flavour, Orcs, Either Dwarves or Undead then Norse, Necro and Humans will be the bashy teams instead.

>Mauled actually won't allow Goblins or Haflings in vets anymore

>>50577784
Skaven
>2 Blitzers
>2 Throwers
>2 Gutter Runners
>6 Linos
>3 Rerolls
>4 Fan Factor
>1000TV

Dwarfs
>2 Runners
>2 Blockers
>2 Slayers
>6 Linos
>1 Reroll
>3 Fan Factor

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>>50580680
>1 Reroll

>>50579477
Read this. It seems like instead of just banning teams the organizer incentivize playing non-bashy teams with additional tournament point earnings


https://anythingbuta1podcast.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/the-elflympic-games-an-autopsy/

>>50580691
Hey, these are the pre-made rosters written by GW. Not my fault they're retarded.

Also, looking at the rosters on this list, it looks like there may be some kits with options for Elves. Interestingly, the Nurgle team has the Rotspawn on the roster.

>>50580664
really? i was gonna enter a fresh goblin team and just try to kill people

>>50580832
Not allowed unless you go into rookies.

>>50580832
That's what they all say. But they're not the ones that end up doing the killing.

>>50580886
i'm fine with feeding spp and losing but i can see why someone wouldn't want an spp bank in the league

>>50580904
Best killers are teams that get loads of linemen. Foul the shit out of the enemy while still doing decently. Humans, Undead, Nurgle come to mind.

>>50580832
Ayylmao pls go. You will end up butthurt and quit.

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>>50580904
Member s4?

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>>50580972
Monkey needs to get back to drawing

>>50580691

It's like he WANTS to incur the wrath of Nuffle.

>Piling on gone forever
Good bye my love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqRC5tquyU0

GW didn't have to cut you off
Make out like you weren't needed
And that claw-mb was nothing
And I don't even need you now
But I have to carry more tacklers
And that feels so rough

They didn't have to stoop so low
Force you to use team re-rolls
And then not buffing foulers
I guess I don't need that though
Now you're just some skill I used to know

>>50582021
>>50582021
Fresh thread, fuck this one.