/bbg/ Blood Bowl General - Death Zone Edition

I bet we still won't get the Death Zone pdf in this thread. I'm begining to give up, I mean, the NAF Rulebook isn't that far off the Death Zone anyway.

Stunty is in the semifinals.

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Reposting

Sign-ups for /tg/ FUMBBL League VI are open.

To apply, have a read of the group page, particularly the rules, and apply your Ready To Play team to the group https://fumbbl.com/p/group&group=9828&op=view

Then PM me, username MauledByTheTigers , with your team name and which division you would like to join, Veterans or Rookies. Veterans are open to everybody, with an emphasis on higher value teams, whilst the Rookies is limited to teams 1200TW and under.

If your team has participated in /tg/ League V and played 3 seasons now in either division, they must take a season's break. Check the "Exhausted Teams" section of the Rules tab for details. We might also see some old teams coming back after a season's break. Please check these yourself, I will be having a look but it makes it easier for me if you don't apply with an ineligible team in the first place.

If you've already sent me a PM asking me to sign up, I will try to dig through my 800+ PMs to find it, but your safest bet is to PM me again. You might have changed your mind about your new team or whatever.

As usual, don't sign up if you can't commit to playing one match a week for six weeks.

Lots of Love, and feel free to ask any questions,
Mauled

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>>50485630
I don't have a PDF to upload, but I'm willing to post screenshots from the app.

any cool ideas for skaven team bases?

I tought making the usual white lines as glowing warpstone could be neat, but I'm not sure if it's going to looks good

>>50486160
It'd be great to see more on starting leagues and leveling up. I will be probably setting up a mini-league in my city, so it might be useful to refresh what I know.

Also, there is an app for Death Zone? I can't find it anywhere.

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>>50486375
Drafting teams

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>>50486375
Levelling up

>>50486375
The official app is Blood Bowl: My Dugout.

The basic app is free. To upgrade it so you can make all the teams available in Season 1 is about £3, and the full ruleset is £15.

Normally I'd bitch about GW being Jews on this, but getting the all the rules and an app that tracks team progressive for just over the cost of the Death Zone book is alright.

>>50486167
Just use a dummy mini to test the paint scheme and work from there.

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Alright /tg/, post your favourite star players and why?

>Lord Borak

Who doesnt love a huge demented full plated Chais Warrior? Also best Agony uncle.

>>50482027
I see vampires getting in sooner rather than later.
Especially as they've already made a similar model.

>>50486736
I miss SPIKE! magazine.

>>50486555
>>50486491
Thanks, you're the GOAT.

>>50487382
Its kinda back in the latest White Dwarf. Granted its a lot of fid you knows and basic blood bowl conceprs but its something.

I miss it too, Varag and his attempt into modern rap was a cute article. That and Griffs notorious affair with an Amazon star.

Rolled 2 (1d6)

gfi

https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=3856191


What a glorious 100th game for the Creature shop. 300 tv down to 2000 + murder Chaos team with a legendary coach. Game opens with a friendly rock from the fans immediately niggling a Pest and making 11 on 10 and the murder Chaos team getting the ball.

Then I almost pitch cleared him twice and made him whine about unnecessary fouling? That doesn't even make sense. Can one of you Euros translate this foreign language?

>>50490496
Unnecessary fouling is fouling which doesn't benefit you at all and is just bad sportsmanship.

It can be classified as such:

>Necessary Fouling:
>To get high-dodge teams off the field so they don't dodge out and steal your ball
>To get bashy teams off the field so they don't bash your pieces
>To grind SSP from all-round teams because hey, their players are cheap and won't be missed.

>Unnecessary Fouling:
>

>>50492308
No fouling is unnecessary. If you score and you opponent can't field players then you get a free TD.

>>50492351
Right, yes, sorry.

>Necessary Fouling:
>To get high-dodge teams off the field so they don't dodge out and steal your ball
>To get bashy teams off the field so they don't bash your pieces
>To grind SSP from all-round teams because hey, their players are cheap and won't be missed.
>Free Touchdowns

>Unnecessary Fouling:
>

>>50492362
Also don't forget in closed leagues for fumbbl it adds to your tiebreaker.

Sign up update when?

>>50493029
t. fag that doesn't wanna face "scary" teams

>>50492362

>Unnecessary Fouling

is when it's turn 16 of a league match, you're never playing the guy on the other end of the table again this season but you ARE going to need a ride home from him at the end of the night.

>>50493868
Leagues are when it matters the most.

>Unnecessary fouling talk

But sometimes I foul just so I put the mentality against the faster squishier teams(Skaven, Elves) that are attempting to "run the clock" against me early on with the ball in the corner of the TD area into scoring or potentially risk having an injured or dead player.

>>50494425
Absolutely right.

>>50494425

This is one of the better reasons against teams that don't have a lot of spares.

Am I mistaken, or is there nothing in the rules that requires the d16 that comes in the box set? Is it just a turn counter or have I missed something?

>>50495529

I was going to say it's nice for rolling MVP's, but I guess that's not really needed anymore.

What's the strongest team in league play? I'm expecting with the new edition it's gonna be everyone playing that one team.

>>50495647
There is no singular strongest team forever. Some teams are better against other teams and some teams are better at certain team values.

>>50495647
Yeah just like now right? No variety at all. All the tryhards playing one team and it's basically mirror matches.

>>50495647

Depends on how long the league is. Wood Elves and Undead are the strongest in short leagues, but there's a whole bunch of teams that can reach their level in a few games.

>>50495676
>>50495669
How good are the chaos guys with beastmen and chaos warriors? I wanna play them but I don't want it to be a noob trap and end up with a shit team that just looks cool.

>>50495687
It is the biggest noob trap that new people only play because it looks cool and they think they can kill stuff. Congrats, you got caught.

>>50495687
Chaos is best in longer leagues, as they get an opportunity to level their players more. A high TV Chaos team is hell to deal with.

>>50495687
Bad in short term, one of the better long term teams. Long Term meaning about 1800+ TV.

>>50495732
Alright, also additional question: What's the minimum amount of teams needed in a league?

>>50495751
"The more the merrier!" - Bob.

>>50495751
Technically 4. 8 is probably the minimum you "want"

>>50495775
Hrm, my little brother wanted to play a league, I guess I'll just have us play two teams each.

>>50495829
Keep in mind this is not a game for people that get mad. Ever.

>>50496095
That's not an issue, we played Mordheim for quite a bit first and just enjoyed watching it play out.

Can the board game be played reasonably well for two players? Was thinking of maybe getting this for me and my brother to play from time to time if that is any reasonable way to play.

>>50496272
It can work, you can always just give yourself a set amount of Team Value and try different things.

>>50495529
It determines who gets hit by the rock

>>50485630

Borrowed the book off a friend, I'll get one up this weekend

>>50496272
It's a two player game. Should be fine. Switch teams play again. Vary the tv and allow so many players to have 1 or 2 skills.

>>50496913
I want to give you love.

How long would it take for a pair of people to paint the entire BB box, asuming one of them is competent?

What about two competent painters and a third one?

In these scenarios, the minis are already primed.

>>50497375
Would there be any riots? Any thrown rocks? Any table invasions? Any blitz?

Would they paint on a day with sweltering heat or blizzard?

>>50497436
The setting is Blizzard and a moderate chance of riots/thrown rocks if I fail the reroll on painting orc teeth.

>>50497458
orcs have teef not teeth

Gan we were supposed to play our bb2 game, where are you? Hop on IRC when you read this. I'ma eat now.

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>>50495687
Maybe I got caught by the noob trap, but I always enjoy my goatboys. Warriors (or Chosen Blockers in the new pdf) can be a little underwhelming at first as they start with no skills, but it's offset a bit by their Beastmen all starting with Horns, making their bulk runners all capable blitzers as well.
Even after just two or three players leveling up, you can see them coming into their own fast, and Mutation skills as a standard on every player make them easy to tailor to your preferred playstyle.

>>50495687
>general, strength and mutation access on all players except the big guy for you
> 3 AG and ST4/horns across the board
you tell me

>>50498240
>no starting skills
You tell me

>>50498274
skills are overrated

>>50498093
Chaos may have 0 skills at the start but I find with good positioning and *average* rolls, they can still be quite good at the start.

Beastmen are top tier linebacks and because of horns can puncture a box like no tomorrow.

That said I always went 3 warriors, 1 mino and 2 rr build. One assist and mino is 3 dice block city.

>>50498602
I typically start with 4 Warriors, 7 goats and 3 rerolls, since the Minotaur can be a bit unreliable, and you don't want that in early games since you need to get your SPP in.

>>50498630
Its a bit "all in" but the Mino has been the tipping point for me in early tv vs other bashers. Unreliable sure but getting claw early on him turns the guy into a meat grinder.

Granted I will also say my track record with minotaurs is pretty bad. Kill and depitch like crazy but ive lost a LOT over my time playing BB, both tabletop and online.

Only other big guys who seem to die quicker is rat ogre and yhetee.

>>50498630
>>50498793
I usually start 4 Warriors, 1 Mino, 6 Beasts.
Leaves me short on Re-Rolls, but I can save for them as I go.

Tend to replace him if he doesn't get Block by his third skill.

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For anyone looking to get minis for a Chaos team, Reaper has a very nice Minotaur for a little under $4, "Bronzeheart, Minotaur Hero".
Clip his axe and he makes a natural Blood Bowl player, but I added a spiked Ork shoulder plate and it really completed the look.

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>>50499299
I used Reaper minis for all my Chaos positionals.
Went with a Khornate feel to it, so had a Fire Giant for my Mino.

Apologies for the shitty light quality, and the poor job of painting white-on-black.

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>>50499299

Shit, are you me?

>buy this guy and the Bones Troll that everyone buys as well
>chop off his axe and really make sure to hollow out the hand
>looks alright, a little lopsided maybe
>get given a couple of Warhammer Quest Minos, use one
>have to green stuff his shorter axe back on

>>50499614
Haha, like me too guizzze! xD

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>>50499638

I got a couple of these guys too, need to do similar to this.

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There's a class Treeman stand-in too, the Spirit of the Forest. The Bones material means the paint won't fucking chip all the time too.

>>50499863
>no timestamp
You know that won't stop my autism

>>50498883
All the guy needs is claw and he is sorted. Anthing else is a bonus. One assist and a blitz you get vs Str 3 and you get 3 dice, so he doesn't really need block as much as other big guys.

My only issue is keeping the big lug alive or non crippled.

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Is GW gonna release new sets of other teams as well?
I bought the new Blood Bowl box, and had few games with my class mates (was fun as fuck, lots of dead players), but while I like the orks (humans are kinda bland) I would love to have shit like Dark Elves etc.
Guess I'll get the Skaven box for the time being.

>>50501051
They've already put out new Skaven, there are sculpts for Dwarves, Pro Elves and Nurgle have concept art. Goblins do too, and they're not even one of the teams released in the new Death Zone.
I've even heard that Forgeworld will be releasing conversion bits for the teams as well, though I'd love to have a link on that.

Anyone got a copy of the 2016 bloodbowl rules?

>>50501194
>there are sculpts for Dwarves, Pro Elves and Nurgle have concept art.

Pictures?

>>50485630
I'll share pics of the death zone rulebook, if someone can get me the core rulesbook.

So, I have a bunch of bloodbowl minitures, for the goblin team.
What else do I need to play 2016 bloodbowl? Cheeper's better. I picked up a dice roller app for bloodbowl.

>>50501194
>Goblins do too

SOURCE ANON! DON'T DO THIS TO ME!

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>>50501716
At most you need the pitch but besides that and another player, you're good to go.

>for the goblin team

My green brother.

>>50501973
Do I need cards or shit? I can make a pitch. Do you know where I could get the rules? There's a 2016 league starting up at my LGS, but I don't have the 100$ for the new starter.

>>50502016
Cards aren't essential though.

Rules?

http://www.thenaf.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/CRP1.pdf

Its almost completely identical besides 1% extra rules but the fundamentals are identical.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1146748/i-made-pitch-you-can-download-and-print

And there is your printable pitch.

There are a few sources for it but outside of maybe needing to access a large printer in an internet cafe, you should be good to go.

Also Impact miniatures should have dice in some form.

Enjoy!

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>>50501930
Not that anon, but pretty sure they released some concept for goblins. See pic related.

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>>50502664
Oh that looks pretty sick! Gonna take a guess thats the Fanatic due to the hoody.

>>50501716
Things I have for getting back in to Blood Bowl
>New pitch and dugouts (about £13)
>Team (about £30 for 15 players)
>My Dugout app with the rules and DZ team manager upgrade (about £17)
>BB Roller app for all the dice rolls I'll need to make
>Interception app to work out pass ranges and who can intercept because the templates in the box look flimsy as fuck.

OK Slaughter Gang coach, I'm a bit early, but whenever you're game in the next 2 or 3 hours lemme know.

>>50502868
i'm here, i'll be spinning in 10 min

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>>50502954

>>50502858
Thanks anon.
Do pirated versions of my dugout or pdfs of the rules exist?

>>50503297
Not that I know of. But My Dugout is the cheapest way to get all the rules and support the game.

>>50502664
Was that released on their facebook or where?

>>50503586
its probably from one of their meetngreets at whw

>>50504091
Not bad. Hope that its actually the Goblin team and not the Underworld. Though the Moonz would indicate the legit gobbos. Would be nice. I love my old Goblin team from Specialist Games brand but an update would be cool.

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Grundlepunch

>>50504301
Nice! 1-1 Chaos vs Orcs sounds like a good scrap.

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>>50504488
Grundlepunch

>>50504279
I believe the rumor mill (a podcaster said he chatted with Andy H. about this) Plastic goblins are upcoming with resin special weapons.

>>50504619
It is moments like this I wish the Blood Bowl fanbase was a bit bigger for I am lacking a Goblin crying from happiness reaction image. Even if it is a rumor, the very thought just makes me feel so happy.

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>>50504703
>What I imagine every Goblin coach looks like...

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>>50505963
>mrw my opponent tilts hard and gets PTSD from all the secret weapon CAS.

>>50505963
fuck yes nekrogoblikon

Any recommendations for a third-party troll mini? Having a hard time finding the WHFB river trolls (pewter or resin) at my FLGS.

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>>50507624
Black scorpion do one that's pretty affordable
Pic related

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>>50507624
Clearly not a river troll, but I'm using a Reaper bugbear for mine. I think they'd do damn well as yhetees for a Norse team. Had to do a bit of converting, but I think mine will look good once painted.

I know I'm starting to sound like a Reaper shill, but they have a lot of good picks for Big Guys for dirt cheap. Hard not to like 'em at that point.

Can someone link tutorials for playing goblins? I entered my store's league, and want to win/not get krumped by all the rats and orcs

>>50508378
>Playing Goblins
>Worried about losing
Nigga

But nonetheless, here http://www.plasmoids.dk/bbowl/playbooks/Goblin%20Play%20Book2.pdf

>>50508403
I'm worried about being dead last.

>>50486115
when do signups end?

>>50504615
>No deaths

Come on, guys, at least try!

>>50501403
I'll try to get a scan up tonight/tomorrow.

>>50508435
Then don't play goblins.

>>50508378
https://fumbbl.com/help:LRB6GoblinStrategy

Good luck man. I went to the NAF tourney like 2 years ago and went 2-1-3. Its possible but if you want to do ok as gobbos you need to do a few things.

>only use one weapon, preferably the saw
>go a deep bench
>have a doc at start as safety net for trolls
>dont replace gobbos with stat injuries, they are just los fodder then

Though you did choose a team perhaps among the least optimal to get results, its possible. Just really really hard.

So, my Dark Elf team arrives from Black Scorpion today.

Imagine my surprise to find a packet of wine gums included.

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>>50507624

Everybody and their dog seems to use this guy. He's one of the cheapest ogre-sized miniatures in the range too, we were talking in /awg/ about how their prices seem rather arbitrary.

The new selection of star players is really lacking cheap options. With wizard being gone, being between 100 and 200 under TV seems like much harder position than before.

>>50496272
>Can the two player board game by played by two players
Gee anon I don't know.

Rolled 2, 5, 6, 1, 6, 2 = 22 (6d6)

First Three and Second Three are random chance. Third die decides a tie.

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Ignore that previous post, it was made by a retard who didn't look at the round 1 matchups. THIS is the round 2 matchups of the jankest /tg/ league!

>>50502664
That's old concept art which they had on display when they announced the remaking of specialist games, not new art

>>50512249
Thanks for dashing my hopes and dreams anon. Though I hope its a taste of things to come.

>>50511911
Lazy Drunks coach, PM me on FUMBBL, name is the same as in the League.

>>50514349
That is actually a nice optional ruleset they added. Pretty cool.

Trash bin coach PM on Fumbbl at LawlessJustice

>>50514810
I already did dumbo.

>>50501446
Aw shit, I forgot the rulebook at the LGS. I'll scan it tomorrow.

New season rules are a min maxer's delight. Free replacement for players without stat ups/doubles every season

>>50514349
>dat heavy snow

>>50515228
That is probably one of the worst rules they added.

>>50514349
stuff like this is cool

>>50514442
>>50515312
>cool
Caaaarlos

>>50515258
That's seriously awesome. Changes the whole dynamic of some teams.

>>50516159
If by changes you mean "removes elves" then I agree.

>>50516190
That is definitely a positive change in my opinion.

>>50516221
I agree.

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>tfw you win MVP twice in the same game

>>50516255
>dubs

This is real, can't believe it.

>>50515228
That was around even before this new boxed rules though. Not a huge issue as the loners are now calculated onto the TV than before.

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Ugh, when the fuck are we suppposed to get the dwarf team sprue?! You can't make a proper league GW with just 3 teams, you just can't! I keep waiting for the release each weekend, and each weekend I am disappointed. Do we have any rumors at all about this?

>>50517219
I just want to get another orc sprue to actually have a full team

>>50517219
Pretty sure it's, at least, January before Dwarfs drop...

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I wish traffic in these threads was a bit more frequent.

>>50486736
Is that a beast of Nurgle? They let them on the team?

>>50520079
For the Chaos Nurgle team yes. I mean, technically in real scale, Trolls, Ogres and Beasts are like 7-8 foot tall, sometimes bigger. A Beast of Nurgle isn't anything major. Plus it has no weapons so its legit.

>>50519919
Worry not, the new releases will fix that. Gonna be a couple of months though

>>50519919
to be honest traffic has increased a lot for the past week or two

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Out of curiosity, which of the monsters like minotaurs, ogres, treemen, trolls etc tend to be considered the toughest and who are considered the best offensively?

Like, which of the monsters would end up lasting me or surviving, on average, the longest and which ones will add up bodycountvthe most?

>>50521113
Kroxigor is the best overall, though the ones with M access are deadlier and the regen ones are tougher.

>>50521113
Most big guys aren`t really meant to be offensive. The ones that are, are shit. Yhetee, mino and rat ogre. They can get claw/mb but they are all av8 and will get shat on (often by themselves).

Bought a skaven team, and I have no idea how this game is played, how leagues work, or anything like that
>help

>>50521869
Start by reading the rulebook?

>>50521869
Google NAF official rules. Its basically 1 to 1 with the new rulebook.

>>50523693
"Basically" is not the same as "exactly", plus, maybe they want the fluff parts too.

>>50523693
They changed some rules, so there is a difference.

>>50523835
No problemo, I'll get a scan up tonight.

what reaper mini for an ogre?

>>50521113
>Like, which of the monsters would end up lasting me or surviving, on average, the longest and which ones will add up bodycountvthe most?

Trolls last the longest,

Underworld trolls rack up the highest bodycount (along with Chaos Minos, Yehtees, Rat Ogres)

although if your things need two doubles for block and claw you can bet that you won't get that ever.


Best big guys are Kroxigors/Beast of Nurgle/Ogres/Trolls

keep in mind though that trolls are absolute garbage shit, you pray that you can move them into a square which blocks your opponent and then you never activate them again ideally. The troll is only good because he's cheap for AV9 regen and Str5, but the troll is super unreliable and really stupid is the worst negatrait.

Wild Animal is really good, so it's hard to say which is better, Bone-Head or Wild Animal. You will have days where you will hate wild animal and you will have days where you hate bone-head. I like wild animal way more than bonehead, and if you build your rogre with block->tentacles you end up with a DISGUSTING ROADBLOCK (which doesn't suit the skaven playstyle kind of).

But yeah, big guys are the most subjective of all the pieces (and the most inconsistent), and often the best team composition doesn't use them. If you want consistency play mummies.

What are good third party models for non human/orc/skaven teams?

What do you guys think the chances of the 2008 Griff Olberwald miniature being re-released are? I would love it if GW used the made to order system for some of the star players.

>>50525310
I bet they will make the Star Player miniatures orderable a piece, but it will take time. The game just came out and they were prodding the waters and waiting for the reception. If the sales were good, they will add stuff like Star Player miniatures.

Just convert up some. Could make a really good looking griff pretty easily.

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>>50525921
It's not that I want to use him as a player, it's that I find the mini fantastic and can't find it anywhere.
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>>50525980

>>50525310
>>50525346
>>50525921
There's supposed to be some sort of system for ordering OOP miniatures in the works.

wait a minute. still no pdf of the rules and deadzone season1 ?
What is this? xmas?

Anyone be up for some friendlies in BB2 in like an hour?

>>50525346
Sales seem to have done pretty good, considering how fast the full set pre-orders were out of stock

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>>50525310
I want Ripper Bolgrot back. Great miniature, great design and a brilliant star player. Saved my bacon many times.

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How good is the Nurgle team at low to mid Team value compared to their standard Chaos counterparts?

Gan, wake up.

>>50527675
Shit. Nurgle is more expensive, slower, worse at moving the ball, and has to take the big guy, who is expensive

>>50527675
about the same, a little slower, and with worse linemen

>>50527902
Wake up!

>>50527675
nurgle is absolute shit and doesn't get remotely close to being good until chaos are already all-stars

at absurdly high TVs nurgle theoretically eclipses chaos but at that TV it's just a dice-game about clawpombing people to death

How does the new weeping blades rule work against regeneration and apothecaries? Not had chance to read death zone yet.

>>50528265
Not even GW knows

>>50528265
weeping blade is after apo and regen, it only works if the model is badly hurt, which apo and regen stop

>>50493868
if he has more points than you then you want to foul so he wins less games
if he has less points than you then you're doing yourself a disservice by weakening his team further

>>50494425
>elvish faggot leaves a player in a dumb position on turn 2
>immediately foul the shit out of him
>plays ultra passive for the next fourteen turns

The skaven team comes with a paper sheet showing a 1 000 000 gold comp, does the orc and human teams in the box have it aswell? I want to introduce BB to my friends with a little competition but I need the teams to be balanced

>>50528116

You make me sad, Gan.

So be it. Come, Patsy!

>>50498602
with good positioning and average rolls you will still get fucked because you have no rerolls and making a single 1db means you lose the game

>>50498602
if chaos is getting average rolls they can't beat undead who is getting the same average rolls assuming both players play optimally.

>>50528481
>not gang-fouling a pomb witch until the opponent concedes
Git gud

>>50528594
i foul a lot more than the average man, and you better believe i foul far more than usual when some ratty elfy bullshit team has claw or mighty blow or god forbid piling on on any of their players

>>50528492
If you mean in the starter boxed set, sadly no. But it does come with the roster and really, you could easily write up a quick pair of sheets for Orcs and humans, photocopy them, and give them to your friends.

>>50528619
Godspeed penisboi

>>50528492
orcs, humans and skaven aren't balanced period

>>50528716
haven't GW given a little bonus to human teams? something like they roll 3d6 for advancements and pick the 2 dice they want? Something to show that humans are more adaptable?

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>>50528171
>>50528028
Ok, when you say they're this bad, could they lose to Ogres at starting TV bad or?

>>50528059
I wasn't sure about the sentiment, I thought the same but apparently not.

>>50529132
that sounds pretty cool, but aren't humans already pretty good, wouldn't this make them good good? or am i simply mistaken?

>>50529132
You got a source on that?

>>50529153
Humans are alright, but they lack anything to make them good at mid tv and onwards.

>>50529137
anyone can lose to a stunty team

for nurgle the ogre team is actually really annoying for them because you don't have any block and your St4 isn't worth much compared against 4 or 5 ogres.

The big problem is if things go wrong for nurgle you're so slow and you probably don't start with multiple pestigors to recover.

Like if things go right for the ogres nurgle doesn't have much of a chance.

But chaos isn't much better.

>>50529132
no

>>50529153
>>50529219
humans need their ogre and even then they're still bad in exhibitions/tournies compared to orcs and skaven

but like, they are viable it's just that 2 blitzers, 2 throwers, 2 catchers isn't going to take you anywhere

>>50529243
Yeah, no Ogre and 2 blitzers down is really bad.

>>50529132
I thought the only bonus was lowering the price of catchers?

what if the human ogre didn't have bonehead or loner?

>>50529290
The Ogre isn't the problems for humans. The problem is their catchers are shit. They also lack ag4 or good skill access on most of their players.

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>>50529224
>playing as Nurgle vs Orcs
>on the defense
>orcs have made a wall of green muscle and armour and are plowing down the field
>defense being pushed back on all sides
>nurgle warriors, beast and rotters comitted on either flank
>left flank about to break, right side buckling
>only one pestigor as line back
>once committed literally have no other fall back if there is another break through
>mfw trying to make the choice where to commit him

Either I try to get him to move up to help left flank and risk him being caught up in a scrum or hold position and watch left flank just fall apart and have a break through I can barely contain.

I lost 2-0 ;_;

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMBR35KpOTs

I wish BB2 had the same cutscenes like they had in BB1.

>>50529132
oh hang on guise, that came out wrong.
I'm not say that GW did give a little bonus, but was more pondering IF they had gievn them a bonus.

And yes humans are crap.
They're OK at the start of a league and get rapidly overtaken by any decent team.

>>50529500
>tfw no witch elf or war dancer thong

hey guys i am trying to get a blood bowl league started in my lgs , i will be the one who offered to run it and help out new players with tactics and paint tips. Any of you run a league before and any pit falls i should avoid ?

>>50529651
In leagues humans are at their strongest, they get lots of Guard access but still have good mobility to threaten the faster teams

Right now scanning the Rules of the new Blood Bowl on my home printer. No idea how it is going to turn up, but let's hope for the best

>>50530126
which is why they are considered one of the best teams....Oh wait, no they aren't.

>>50530438
may enefel guide your mouse and may your printer gush the ink of truth.

I could do with the league rules from deathzone though too.

>>50530450
All the tier evaluations are in regards to limited skill Resurrection tournaments and anyone worth their salt will tell you that an excellent human coach is a terrifying adversary

>>50530473
I think I fucked up some of the first few pages. Right now on page 14.

>>50530530
>Resurrection style
into the trash

Can anyone make or share a scan of death zone 2016? Thanks!!!

>>50530543
RIP page 30, you were pulled out. Now considering either to scan the fluff and paint guides or not.

Hmmm is the starter for this game worth it?

Is it typical GW where you need to buy multiple for the full game?

As far as I can find, this is the first PDF of the rules. Remember, page 30 had to die for this.

I'm now patiently awaiting for the guy who promised me the Death Zone pdfs.

https://mega.nz/#!hR5xCbJL!nsDovFvLEWYkDuwfybJ3IwOOeOT68glJtOTB3v2OSyY

If I get a copyright email from GW, I blame you guys.

>>50531357
This isn't Fantasy Flight, you don't need multiples. A core box is great.

>>50531497
Nice thanks.

My local store over ordered on them... So is selling them all at 25 off.

I think I'll drive down and buy the kit.

>>50531626
Do that, the game's fun if you don't mind the gameplay and the figures are top quality.

>>50532030
Uhhhh don't mind the gameplay? You mean if I don't take it serious?

>>50532146
Some people might not like the fact that the gameplay is centered around risk management, while those who can get worked up over a game should stay away since it's easy to be frustrated after a series of bad dice rolls

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So why does the BB2 videogame only allow 2 stormvermin in my team or is it the same in the Tabletop?

>>50532376
because you're only supposed to have two stormvermin because anything else would be ridiculous you rat fuck you

>>50532376
Same as tabletop.

>>50532376
Skaven are already good enough.

What's the worst team? Joke teams like halflings aside.

>>50532447
Depends on if you count vampires/slann as joke. If not those then Khemri.

>>50532447
IMO ogres are a better team than norse

>>50532469
Why would vamps and Slann be jokes? I don't know much about how either play.

>>50532510
>block on all players
>mv6 on all players, including the 4 strength
>+1 move and dauntless for 40k gold
not an amazing team but worse than ogres? no way

>>50532531
They perform worse on average than other teams and they rely on gimmicks.

>>50532531
any team based around a gimmick that makes being competitive impossible are joke teams
bloodlust and leap on every player counts as gimmicks
the vampires are simply too unreliable to ever be used to their best extent, you need to start with four rerolls at the very lowest to have any chance of getting anything done
the slann have leap on everything and nothing else going for them, the joke is that you can leap with every player, that's it

hows my human strategy
>field catcher every drive
>use exclusively as bait
>always position blitzers in scoring positions under the guise of a blitz or block or protection
>place catcher in overly blatant scoring position
>let the opponent pummel the shit out of the catcher, always put him in blitzable locations to waste opponent blitz
>fire them whenever they level up

>>50531497
>https://mega.nz/#!hR5xCbJL!nsDovFvLEWYkDuwfybJ3IwOOeOT68glJtOTB3v2OSyY
thanks
>>50532447
assuming no gobs/ogres/flings, vamps or khemri, I lean more towards khemri being bad but thats just because they have more issues scoring. 11 thralls can get there easier than 11 skellies even if 2 have sure hands.

>>50501446

A scan for 2016 for rules has been shared can u get a death zone scan up???

>>50532559
I've lost to ogres, I've never lost to norse

>>50532583
Slann are humans who play like goofball elves. They're surprisingly competitive in NAF standard. Mv7 Agi4 players can very easily win games especially with leap.
Their players are however expensive and lacking in standard skills which hurts them particularly starting out.

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>>50532559
Norse are definitely more stable but I've floored teams (including Norse) as Ogres. Ogres are arguably the easiest team to play in the game simply because how stream lined their players are.

>block and blitz with Ogres
>dodge with snotlings and never leave one in a tackle zone except if you're gunning with the ball
>pick up ball with ogre on offense
>smash and kill everything in your way
>win

Literally the only challenge is knowing when and when not to activate your ogres and risking a bonehead breakout is worth it.

Best stunty team by far and unlike Halflings and Goblins can legit take the fight to the enemy and can RIP AND TEAR boxes open at new TV, including Orcs.

>>50532636

>joke's on you I was only pretending I wanted to field 11 players!

>>50532636
I prefer no catcher full stop but sounds decent. Bait and switch and falsely committing to one end while actually doing another. Only problem is if the opponent has a strong defense formation where they have a few linebacks but if it works for you it works.

I managed fine with just 4 blitzers, an ogre, runner and rest linemen. Humans are the most middle of the road team but have enough resources to be able to beat anyone in my opinion.

>>50532636
You're plan is shite and you're a faggot.

Use Catchers as runners, shove 'em in a cage and use their high Ma to burst out and score TD's.

Cunts moan about Catchers because they're can't use them right.

>>50532927
>feed spp to catcher
>call others shit
WEW LAD

>>50532927
i don't let them instantly die. they're not much worth as bait if i get them immediately blitzed by a 3db mighty blow piling on player on turn 2.
i do score with them sometimes, if the opponent goes for the other front instead of prohibiting the catcher's advance, but other than that i just run the catcher around as an assister, tackle zone creator, or blitz bait (mostly by forcing them to also make a go for it or two)
am i not making the most of his base eight movement by never levelling him?

>>50533031
I think the point you are missing is how catchers fundamentally put your lineup at an unecessary handicap.

They are Str2 and Av 7, their only plus being the catch, dodge skill and +1 MV. That is another potential lineman who could be holding the line down the drain for a glorified runner or ball loving blitzer.

I mean, if its working for you sure but the others are trying to say what is most optimal through experience rather than speculate around the merits of a catcher.

Myself and many others never used catchers and found the performance of the human team, if not the same, actually improved due to the extra muscle and armour.

The human team also can work on a more stronger foundational strategy without catchers, with greater focus than hamstringing itself with a sub optimal positional through the catcher.

This is less like a case of Skaven thinking or not of using Gutter Runners, that is pivotol to the team. This is more like thinking if you need a rat ogre on skaven or a catcher but even the Rogre has a more clearly defined role as a buff to their muscle more so than the catcher as humans do 100% fine without any passing game and solely running.

>>50532848
goblins and halflings are by far better teams than ogres

>>50534143
Not in the /tg/ league, to be fair sku did do good with his flings and domp never gave up with his goblins.

>>50534375
>some players are bad therefore this team is good

????

>>50532848
>Ogres are arguably the easiest team to play in the game simply because how stream lined their players are.

you're describing Lizardmen

>>50534445
I was more commenting that only so few "joke" teams that have joined finished a season.

>>50534629
What did the coaches quit? I mean its just six games.

>>50535121
Combination of wanting fun but not taking the obviousness of playing a weaker team to mind when they lose 4+ games in a row. They got burnt out and couldn't roll with the punches.

>>50535121
Press F for Ayylmao

Crab im stuck in the snow will be home around 30min.

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>>50511911
Manly Men, I can do any time past 1230am EST, or a few hours earlier on TH of F.

Can anyone make or share a scan of 2016 Death Zone? :( alternatively if the CPR isn't much different I can just read that if it's recommended

>>50531497
Thanks!
I have Death Zone, but unfortunately I don't have a damned scanner, or I'd upload it myself.

Im alive crab start rolling

Man this game is great and fun as fuck, but if you play with a WAAC faggot it just turns into a slog.

ok i just had my first game and it's amazing. I think my LGS is about to start a league and I was thinking about going with skaven. are they ok for beginners?

>>50538040
They are fine, just remember to not care about your linemen and that Gutter Runners are your lifeblood.

>>50538081
yup i found that out in my first game. i only played 3 gutter runners though. i'm a fool

>>50538107
That's the spirit! Also Blitzer levels are pretty nice.

>>50538040

Skaven are a cruel mistress, they teach you the joy of taking the ball from one end of the field to the other in a single turn, but the pain of an av7 team with no ag4 or heavy amounts of safety skills.

>>50538158
any advice for league play?

should I try to fill my roster in the beginning or buy a re-roll or 2?

>>50538285
gutter tunners are ag4 with dodge...

>>50538293
https://fumbbl.com/help:LRB6SkavenSetUp

>>50538293
I like to omit dudes and get extra rerolls.
But I've come into trouble a few times because of it.

Starting a team with only 5 Saurus so that you can squeeze out the extra rerolls makes the game a little more difficult.

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Luckiest Ducks team on BB2 ladder championship cup 1 is kicking a lot of ass and is probably going to win it. Brets wreck goofball teams and Rodents of Regret suffered some loses of leveled players, it'll all come down to what he'll buy.

Also, are Bretonnians underrated?

>>50538309

I did say "no ag4 or safety skills", when my intention was to say they're not like av7 Elf teams who all can dodge to safety on a 2+, nor are they like Amazons or Norse who have mass Dodge and Block.

>>50538354
>>50538337

thanks!

lizardmen looked interesting as well but as I understand it, they haven't been updatted yet right?

>>50538365
Not really, stat ups are godlike on Blitzers of Humand and Bret Knights. Without seeing the games can't say how good the coach is.

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>>50538365
The Skaven team he'll be fighting.

Brets 1690 verse Skaven 1460

>>50538365
>not sorting your teams

I seriously hope none of you play with rosters this shit

>>50538398
bloodbowl.com has a pdf of all the old teams (excluding shitty slann)

>>50538491
How does someone get a blitzer that much SPP?

>>50538579
he had clawmb, so ez spp

>>50538606
But I mean 219.

>>50538579
Ducke is going to foul the fuck outta that rat.

how is teams of legend?

Any Aussie players here? (in brisbane.) i want to play the table top but no one i know gives a shit about it.

>>50538698
Not Aussie but I know exactly how you feel, I'm getting to know people who are into it because no one i actually know cares...

>>50538628
av8 man, just keep playing matches

>>50538698
Melbourne has a very active scene

>>50538726
Preach, brother.

>>50538762
Shame im not in fucking melbourne then.

Is there any decent youtube channel or even website that has decent game replays of bb2 without some gamer faggot talking all the way through it?

>>50538824
Why the fuck would you watch BB2 without commentary? The game is slow as shit. Just mute a video if you don't want any.

>>50538824
you know you can mute youtube videos right?

>>50538866
2x or 1.5x speed my man

>>50538866
Because most of them sound like nasally little fuck boys and try to be funny.

I just want the SFX, not some dork snort-laughing and making shitty jokes.

>>50538866
In game replays are great, you just skip all the moving piece by piece stuff and go for the big plays.

>>50538892
Well cKnoor doesn't have the fuck boy voice.

>>50538912
They're not replays. Just the game being played.

I don't want.

>>50538912
cknoor talks so slow my roommate thought he was retarded, turns out that cknoor is retarded so I guess it's all ok

>>50538947
>talks slow
???

>>50538824

I've been watching Jimmy Fantastic lately.

He's pretty relaxed doesn't chatter on about random shit, gets salty easily but not shouty or angry.

shit taste in teams though

>>50538947
You have a problem with that glorious nordic accent?

>>50539231
>nordic accent

I wasn't aware an accent refers to how quickly one speaks

>>50539279
He doesn't speak slowly though.

>>50538698
Yeah I'm a Brissy kid.

Not to give false hope though because I'm a thousand sons player so all my money is already reserved.

>>50538947
Sounds like you're a spain-like.

What changed between BB1 and BB2 for rosters and rules?

>>50539417
NOTHING HAPPENED TO ORK BLITZERS
EVERYTHING IS FINE
MOVE ALONG CITIZEN

>>50532583
>a gimmick that makes being competitive impossible
Slann and Vamps are both very good.
The only real joke team is Ogres.

how well could a gimmick vamp build of ONLY THRALLS work?

>>50540136
Why aren't you playing Amazon or Norse?

>>50535158
what kind of faggotry is this? they can't play six fucking games with a joke team when they themselves chose this? just foul and do crazy shit

>>50538866
>>50538892
when i google gameplay for something i immediately close the tab if there is commentary of any kind
what about you faggots? do you tolerate the commentary if it is an autist strictly speaking about the game and nothing else, never trying to be funny? maybe you can learn a thing or two from this guy with 5k hours in the game

>>50540461
I don't watch BloodBowl videos. Also you can just mute the video. Sorry about your luck with severe autism anon.

>>50539573
>vamps
>"very good"
Please tell me what words you would use to describe humans, mid TV dwarfs or a well developed chaos team.

So I rolled doubles 3 times on wood elves, didn't know what to get so I chose guard.

... I feel like giving guard to wood elf linemen isn't a great idea.
Should I ignore doubles in future or is there something better to get?


Also- Catch on Ork blitzers - Good idea?

>>50541480

All three times? Guard on more than just the Treeman has it's uses believe me, and that's just on teams that DON'T have access to the cage breaking motherfuckers that are Wardancers. If any of them level up again give one of them leap and enjoy the sort of cagebreaking game that hitherto only Slaan know.

3 Agility 4 Movement 7 players with Guard is seriously useful.

>>50541649
>treeman

>>50541767

Well, what else you going to give him? Leap?

>>50542000
My treeman has block and pro.
I'm trying to get guard blm.

But yeah, three random linemen.
I dunno it just seems less useful than blodge, and if cage-breaking requires more than 1 3+ leap I'm not amused.

>>50542393
>Block + Pro

You know it never occurred to me that Pro isn't a bad pick-up on guys with Loner. I'll remember that if my Krox levels up again.

>>50542393
>But yeah, three random linemen.
>I dunno it just seems less useful than blodge, and if cage-breaking requires more than 1 3+ leap I'm not amused.

Three guys with Guard is still really useful. Plus, they're lino's, this sort of thing is really their job. I mean, nobody is going to argue against the effectiveness of Blodge, but if you roll a double 3 times for some linemen I can't really think of better choices that Guard.

Maybe one with Leader?

>>50542513
I regret not getting dodge or jump up personally but yeah it's pretty useful..

>>50542393
>not picking jump-up instead of pro

>>50538698

Where in Bris? I know IF near the hyperdome is running a league, check their facebook page

>>50542578

Oh yeah, Pro's a general skill isn't it? Yeah honest if you roll two doubles in a row for a Treeman I think you may have missed a trick by not giving him Dodge.

I had a Flesh Golem who got a double, and let me tell you even on a Str4 player Blodge+Stand Firm is HATEFUL.

I don't even want to IMAGINE what a Str6 Treeman with that would be like.

new bread

>>50542880
>>50542880
>>50542880

>>50486167
Im going to wait for gw to release the sakven pitch before I do their bases

>>50499696
Damn it, were you the guy who made them run out of stock for werewolves!?

>>50503297
I would give you scans of my rulebook and season 1, but I live in canada and would probably get fucked if I did so, gw is ruthless...