Horus Heresy General /hhg/

>>50532721
>Moved to the LoW slot
Nah, LoW is for characters that in a league of their own, and giant vehicles.
Scoria is an Archmagos, hugely important - yes, very powerful - true. But Archimandrite are the rulers of entire Forgeworlds too, an they're HQs.
Meanwhile, the Primarchs are so hugely above the Marines they command and unlike anything else in the legions.

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No-one cared who i was until i put on the mask..

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Remember to post your shit and not to be cunts.

Nearly done with my very first squad of Bitter Boys. Only one dude left and I'll do the Sergeant.

How strong do you think Primarchs should be, /hhg/?
I play Admech, and I am just putting together my first Lord of War unit, a Baneblade.
Seeing as I don't have a Primarch short of Scoria, and I play Reductor half the time, I'm fine with them as is, since they are powerful, expensive but not invincible.

Quite a few of the Legion players at my store want them buffed, since, and I quote:"Demigods shouldn't die to some toasterfucker with no arms"
after Guilliman died to Grav-myrmidons.

The WE player has a point, 3+ armour is outrageous on a 400pt man, but I feel that most are fairly balanced.

>>50532861
That's not really a mask to me. If you're going to Banepost at least know that GW has taken care of it a long time ago http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Bane's_Landing

So who is more bitter?
the Irn Warriors or the Iron Hands after Ferrus's death

>>50532883
The IW are bitter, ie have brooding resentment, and pull shits like "Have faith Word Bearer".
The IH are cold RAEG. They'll be fucking furious but still shoot you cleanly right between the eyes while keeping formation.

Not the same thing imo.

>>50532880
>How strong do you think Primarchs should be, /hhg/?
Seeing as they are amongst the most powerful beings in the galaxy, pretty fuckin strong.
That said, I don't know how much they really need to be buffed, and even how one would go about doing that properly without going overboard.
Maybe give them FnP base? It's always bothered me that they're lacking that, seeing as they're fucking primarchs

>>50532880
>after Guilliman died to Grav-myrmidons.

Good! Fuck that guy! But your friends are right, they shouldnt die to random mooks WHICH IS WHY YOU GIVE THEM A RETINUE!

Primarchs are fine, they kill anything they touch, even some gargantuan creatures and knights but can also die if you plan well.

>>50532837
Why thank you sir. I see your point. Was mostly thinking I tend to run out of HQ slots for support Magi, so him as a LoW would mean I can do the Legion thing of Primarch and lots of consuls.

Also, he feels like a Lord of War. He costs loads, destroys anything he fights and is intended to be a game changer.
Would also like Decima to get a buff or for Scoria to be OR HQ as well, since they don't get anything equal to a Primarch.

>>50532951
>Good! Fuck that guy!
Why? What did he do to you?

>>50532880
>3+ armour is outrageous on a 400pt man
FW seems to have a problem with giving power armour to people who obviously deserve better.
>Sevatar
>Angron
>Garviel Loken
>Whatever the Saviour of Calth is called.

>>50532960
>since they don't get anything equal to a Primarch.
No, but you do get T6 4W 2+/3++ generics.

>Captcha: draw around this sign
>It's blurred out
Fuck you NuMoot

>>50532932
>"Have faith Word Bearer"

Best burn of whole Dropsite Massacre

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>>50532880
>"Demigods shouldn't die to some toasterfucker with no arms"

>>50532960
>Would also like Decima to get a buff
Give him Magos Reductor stats! Give Decima Invictus Archmagos Reductor stats!

Threadly reminder that an AL Saboteur with a combat Aug array is both a fluffy and balanced choice.

>>50532880
>taking primtards

>>50533111
>he doesn't field his primarch
What a fag.

>>50532951
He did have a retinue, I just shot it. Also, how does his rerollable invuln save work. Is it used up on the first save that requires a reroll, or on the first that causes an unsaved Wound?

>>50533019

With no EW for about 250pts. I keep my Magos cheap and make him buff and repair in a squad of Enginseers.

>>50532995
True, although I'd like it as an upgrade for Thallax so they don't lose me 65pts on one Kheres attack.

>>50533075
Best part is he was completely serious and angry about it while me and the WE guys at the next table were laughing our heads off.

>>50533104
That. Just that and he'd be awesome.

>>50533110
But it is though. If anything, Sabotuers should be able to inflict explode results by default, without taking relics.

>>50533111
>>50533147
Gentlemen, the appropriate response is to own your Primarch's model, paint it, put it in a shrine, and take it in your army once a year for your birthday.

And watch as he jobs to admech shooting.
>>50533110
This still needs to be added to the FAQ
>Q. Do you think comboing a Combat Augment Array with an AL Sabot-
>A. STOP BEING A FUCKING FAGGOT HOLY SHIT.

>>50533157
>He did have a retinue, I just shot it.
Classic Mechanicum
>That's what Empyrite should be! 3+ Hardened armour teleport. Maybe rerollable teleportation, at the cost of, what very bulky? They can't Sweep anyways.
>Best part is he was completely serious and angry about it while me and the WE guys at the next table were laughing our heads off.
Double laugh.
>>50533168
Or EW as an upgrade. Or a loyalist Mechanicum character! Three consecutive traitor melee powerhouses, one better than the last? Come on!

>>50533232
Why are you so buttmad? It makes plenty of lore sense; a crewman sleeper agent is hit with his hypnosis trigger, and subsequently sends his vehicles reactor into meltdown. It doesn't even work on super heavies, so it's impact is minimal.

>>50533280
>Or EW as an upgrade.
Invictus has EW.

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>>50533075
I can never look at that pic without reminding myself of page related

>>50533354
For regular Archmagi.
>>50533371
Neat. Holy shit I won't think about the Ctaan the same way. Homer C'taan

I'm thinking about starting Alpha Legion, but the lack of an official Alpharius figure is bothering me.

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Are claws on Cataphractii any good?

>>50533624
Now there's a good yellow. 10/10 work, Anon.

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>>50533517
What do you mean? He's totally got a model.

>>50533647
just put a bit of chewed up viscera on a 40mm base...

>>50533624
They look cool and thats all that matters.

>>50533647
Nah, he's the fifth Tac Squad member on the right. Duh!

>>50533647
I think he got disemboweled and his head basically cleaved in two, not off his shoulders.

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>>50533683
Here in the trench we call that a Meat-ball special.

Sneaky marines get blown the fuck out.

The Ultrasmurfs never got him, it was just a body double. He's still out there, I know he is!

>>50533024

And fittingly for the Iron Warriors, it was against their own side.

>>50533746
>The Ultrasmurfs never got him

That's right, Dorn did.

>>50533657
>>50533683
And his hands chopped off.
Dude, why does John french get a boner by brutalizing all the Primarchs that oppose his husbando?

>>50533781
One Word Bearer out of ten, who cares? Summon them back again, Tormageddon.

/HHG/, now that ADB's child traumas were confirmed, what do you think happened to John French?

>>50533852
He fell in love with a wall?

>>50533781
Nah, Dorn just got that scrub Alpharius, not his super cool replacement twin Omegon.

>>50533852
Alan Bligh's Iron Warriors told French's Word Bearers to have faith as he was getting Ironfired to death.

>F-Fun joke Alan, funny..

>>50532995
I like to think of Angron's armour as a kind of artificer Carapace armour. Like, he's intentionally handicapping himself by just slapping on the armour he's familiar with.

>>50533781
in what lore does it say he was killed by the ultramarines?

>>50534061
in the old 2nd/3rd ed ultramarines codex

Dorn definitely got Alpharius, but the Ultrasmurfs possibly failed to kill Omegon who had taken over the identity of Alpharius. I think that's where the lore officially stands on their status.

If the Emperor was the Primarchs' father, who was their mother?

>>50534061
>>50534087
Eskrador, Alpharius Omegon is surprised by Guilliman using unorthodox tactics and killed by him, Alpha Legion then proceeds to not break and fuck up the Ultramarines.

Same blurb of fluff also says that Eskrador might have never happened and its most likely an Alpha Legion lie.

>>50534136
Malcador

>>50534136
In vitro.
I mean clones are made by deleting the genetic material of the ovum and replacing it with the complete one from one of your own cells, so the baby inherits nothing from the mother.

But I'm going to say Malcador :3

>>50534136
>>50534156
>>50534170
Wouldn't it actually be Chaos though?

>'Brother–’ Alpharius began.

>And Dorn hacked Storm’s Teeth through Alpharius’ arms above the wrists. Blood and sparks fell in the flash of gunfire. The world became a slow-sliding tableau of movement. Dorn’s face, cold stone, marked with blood and strobing shadows as he pulled the spear from his shoulder.

>Alpharius staggering, lashing out with a kick. Another cut, scything from left to right. Storm’s Teeth ripping armour like parchment. Red gloss sheen on indigo-blue, and a demigod falling, his torso an open cave of meat and bone. The only sound the growl of Storm’s Teeth and the clang as Alpharius struck the deck, and began to rise, strength defying the red ruin of his body. Dorn still had the spear in one hand.

>'But... victory...’ Alpharius gasped.

>Dorn rammed the spear through his brother’s chest. The tip punched through the power plant on the back of Alpharius’ armour. Alpharius’ mouth opened, his eyes wide. A great wash of blood poured from between his teeth. Dorn held him on the spear, the two so close that it seemed almost an embrace. The air around them was blurring like a heat haze as the blood struck the floor.

>A high wail was rising with a coil of wind, which circled the pair. Alpharius’ mouth moved, forming words. Dorn was still for a second, his eyes blank and black in the carved stone of his face. Then he pushed Alpharius away. Snakes of light writhed through the air. The primarch of the Alpha Legion staggered, mouth still moving.

>Rogal Dorn brought Storm’s Teeth around. The blade cut down through Alpharius’ skull, and then tore free in a spray of blood and a detonation of light.

Alpharius? More like Deadfagius.

>>50534087
Nope, Alpha Legion IA.
Noted as probably being a lie because the Ultramarines have no record of such a thing.

>>50534170
The child would still inherit the mitochondrial DNA from the mother, in rare cases that can be noteworthy because mitochondria are the center of energy processing and a clone could theoretically inherit a metabolic problem that way.

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>tfw FW heads don't fit plastic MK3
>tfw no neck

>>50534330
That's because that's a MkII head. FW MkII heads don't fit FW MkIII either.

So, what can I use to proxy as Alpharius while I wait for FW to come out with the official model?

>>50534358
Kitbash your own like a real man.

>>50534366
That's what I figured. Alright, well this might get interesting then.

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>>50534358
>So, what can I use to proxy as Alpharius

>>50534393
The delicious irony in that being a dead Ultrasmurf though. I love it.

>>50534358
IIRC there's a third party company that makes knock off primarch models, they have an Alpharius (he's got some generic name like Serpent Lord or whatever).

>>50534355
>tfw I've made a terrible mistake

>>50533875
So he and Trump got reincarnated and became Dorn?

>>50534228
I've never seen someone suck so much JFrench cock, congrats.

Honestly, Dorn seems like a Trump to me.

>>50534287
>still inherit the mitochondrial DNA from the mother
Not if we get rid of that shit and slap in some Mitochrafted Mastercondria they won't. Srsly get rid of those freeloaders. Their cells are going to get a new powerhouse

>shows how cool the space wolves really are

>hurr durr we're not actually stupid barbarians we just think and act like stupid barbarians all the time and if you think that we're stupid barbarians just because we are stupid barbarians then you just got tricked *wet leopard growl* my name is NOT Bear XD

>>50533147
>he needs his gene-pappy to hold his hand
my dudes > your dudes

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>>50534601

>>50534645
Dorn was kinda a valuable resource to be used For the Emprah!

>>50534636
Turns out Russ hates Wolves, his legion and even his own fucking spear, which is why he developed a drinking problem
>*wet leopard growl* my name is NOT Bear XD
Kek

>>50534665
And a helpful and admirable person.

>>50534228

Hence why Perturabo is >our guy.

>>50534811
Why?

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>>50534827

He founded Forge World while on campaign and released a successful miniature wargaming setting.

>>50533647
Delete this

I wonder if he'll have half a detachable head like Ferrus

I think FW will probably make Alpharius and Omegon a pair of models similar to Abaddon and Loken. Could be wrong, but here's to hoping.

>>50534228
Can't wait for the future novel where it turns out that wasn't Alpharius all along!

Ok playing around with a post-Isstvan shattered legion list for fun.

2500 points, Decapitation Strike

Shadrak Meduson

Sallies Chaplain, AA, Axe, Refactor Field, Meltabombs

IH Tac squad x15
Extra ccw, AA, Power fist

Sallies Tac squad x15
Extra ccw, AA, MC Power fist

RG Tac Support x5
Plasma guns, Infravisor, Drop pod

IH Quad Launcher Rapier x2
Shatter Shells

IH Vet Tacs x10
AA, Combi melta, x2 Missiles w/ web
Rhino, dozer, MM
Machine killers

RG Tartaros Terminators
Chain fist, x4 Raven Talons
Dreadclaw

Sallies Contemptor
Chainfist/Heavy flamer, MM, extra armor

RG Land's speeder squadron x2
MM, 2 HKM each

IH Leviathan
AC, Blessed Auto, Grav Bombard, x2 Calivers, chainfist, dread drop pod

HQs go with respective legion tac squads. Bring in leviathan and termies turn 1 most likely, plasma to clean up later.

Looking for general critique and ideas. Not about being super competitive, just really like the fluff behind Meduson and also wanna collect a little RG and Sallies

>>50534355
The mkiii heads barely/don't fit mkiii.

In a 2500pts game just how many Thallax per squad do you think is a decent number. 6? As-many-as-budget-allows or bare minimum?
For the record it takes about 7 Thallax Ferrox to kill a Land'd Raider, 9 for a Spartan. Not that it's a good idea in the first place, especially since Vorax and Ursarax are also a thing, but it sort of serves as a meter.
And Thallax can't Sweep Advance so Ferrox isn't that worth it, Destroyer meltabombs are a no go (and if Mechanicum has plenty of anything is anti-tank), Icarian Thallax aren't even Troops and Empyrite is pretty much Void Hardened...4+ save.

Srsly, Thallax, are they even trying?

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>>50536526
Our local WAAC AdMech player who has yet to lose a game of 30k always runs thallax in squads of six. Might mean something I guess.

>>50536526
Max Ferrox Thallax with Heavy Chainblades. This ensures them being able to either tarpit or serve as a slightly effective can-opener.

36 attacks on the charge by a unit of 9 is no joke.

What do you guys think its best loadout for a boxnought? Dual power fists? Power Fist plus Volkite/Plasma cannon? Max missiles? Im planning on running a list with 5 rhinos being escorted by 5 boxnoughts, so far got two with Power Fist+Multi-Melta and Im wondering how to equip the rest.

>>50536816
And what's their loadout/enhancement?
>>50536835
Hmm, 8 dead marines a turn just in melee does sound good

>>50535996
BL has said over and over that Alpharius is definitively dead and permanently dead.

Omegon is now Alpharius permanently instead of just sometimes/anytime you thought otherwise

>>50537754
They even united as a group in BL Weekender event to scream Alpharius is DEEEEEEAD.

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So Wrath of Magnus had:

>Take on most of the named characters of the M41 space wolves and Dark Angels plus a load of Grey Knights.
>Magnus turn a GK Grand Master into a pile of fools gold and laugh
>Survive a direct orbital bombardment easily
>Detonate the reactors of a whole Imperial fleet in orbit
>Only gets beaten because Khorne decides to fuck with Tzeentch
>Have a JUST AS PLANNED moment after and teleport the Planet of the Sorcerers out of the Eye of Terror over Prospero

Daemon Prince or not I think we can confirm he's the strongest of the Emperor's true sons

>>50537787
What a bunch of assholes. I'm no Alpha myself but Alpharius was my 3rd favourite, actually tied with Dorn. And they also made Perturabo hate Mortarion.

Why must my favourites hate each other so much!!!?!

>>50537823
In all fairness Omegon is literally the same thing as Alpharius so he's basically still around

Not even his own legion cared. An AL Harrowmaster Silonius basically goes "meh, we are legion" when he hears of the death

>>50537823
>>50537861
This is just French soft retconning Alpharius Omegon back into being one person.

Alpharius Omegon is dead, long live Alpharius Omegon.

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>>50537794
>Detonate the reactors of a whole Imperial fleet in orbit
Really GW? Do you not think before you right more DBZ-esque bullshit?

Also does that include the DA fleet? By which I really only mean did GW remember that The Rock was in that Imperial fleet?

>>50537794
>>Take on most of the named characters of the M41 space wolves and Dark Angels plus a load of Grey Knights.
Duh, he's a Primarch. It's not like they die to a bunch of Black Legion goons or something :^)
Also, did it not occur to any Grey Knight to shout Magnus' true name to weaken him? Now everyone knows that info: it's "Fifteen"
>>Magnus turn a GK Grand Master into a pile of fools gold and laugh
How many of those have we seen die? Didn't one of them got killed by Angron on Armageddon (or by the wolves in the aftermath), then another one by Mortarion because he didn't wear a helmet.
>>Survive a direct orbital bombardment easily
Maybe he phased away into the warp, like Pain or something.

>>50537794
>>Magnus turn a GK Grand Master into a pile of fools gold and laugh

What? Nooo. He is alright.

Also TSfags prove that they are the most cancerous bunch.

1) The Blue Scribes looted the Dark Angel spell library and cast a spell on Magnus that made him immune to all mortals weapons and ALL holy weapons of the Imperium.

Without the spell, he would have been banished much much sooner by the Grey Knights and woofs.

2-It wasn't Khorne but the it was the portion of his power inside the Axe of Morkai. The shard of Khorne's power is enslaved by the power of Morkai's rune. Khorne did nothing personally. He just found the whole thing amusing.

The spell wards that protected him were broken by the Khornate energies of the axe. This means it will be much easier to kill him later.

3-Magnus lost

Magnus's true objective was to wipe out the Wolves and conquer the Wolves planet. He failed and had settle for a secondary objective all while rubbing his hand and acting like it was all part of his plan which makes things even more pathetic

There is no proof that Magnus is stronger or even smarter than the rest of the Daemon Primarchs.

>>50537932
>>50537794
You two.
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>>50537861
>Not even his own legion cared.
No legion ever cares.
Nothing happened to the Fists when Dorn died
Nothing happened to the Night Lords when Curze comitted suicide by assassin
The SoHs/Black Legion are actually better than ever since Horus became deader than Horus
Nothing happened to the Salamanders after the numerous times Vulkan died
Why should be surprised the operator legion, taught by their Primarch to be independent, didn't react to his death, especially since they still have one Primarch left?
The only ones who reacted were the Iron Hands, surprisingly emotional for those cyborgs, and the Blood Angels, whom have a good excuse of Horus punching their dad so hard all his children still feel it 10 000 years later.

>>50538017
>Nothing happened to the Salamanders after the numerous times Vulkan died

The whole "Vulkan Lives!" thing happened, they are obsessed with finding their primarch ten thousand years later.
Salamanders are just as scarred by losing their primarch as the Iron Hands.

>>50537794
>Detonate the reactors of a whole Imperial fleet in orbit
He only destroyed some of the fleet above him. Still impressive though.

He really did just as planned the SW pretty hard. People are saying he 'lost' because he didn't destroy Fenris. Dudes whole plan was to force Logan into powering the start of the 13 BC and the moving of the Planet of Sorcerers to Prospero system. The silver towers were the TS biggest advantage in the story and they all disappear before the final fight as they have already achieved their job.

>Compared to the true aftermath of Midgardia’s spectacular demise, the damage wrought to Nurgle’s annex was all but irrelevant. The death of a world is an event of terrible psychic magnitude, for the swansong of several billion souls is sweet music indeed to one empowered by strife. When that fell deed was in essence a gross betrayal, the deliberate act of the protector slaying those he had sworn to protect, the psychic energy was all the more potent. Should a practitioner of the eldritch arts harness that tempest of emotion, capturing the shock wave of energy that explodes through the Warp, he would have power enough to change the galaxy. Magnus the Red had ensured he would do just that.
>Not by accident had the Crimson King sent his Exalted Sorcerers into the cold depths of space. The Silver Towers that blighted the Fenris Sector from end to end, arranged into a complex metaphysical pattern that echoed that of Magnus’ celestial orrery, were ready and waiting when Midgardia met its end.”

>>50537794
>>50537932

Magnus did nothing wrong.

>>50538076
>make an everything proof shield
>don't actually make it everything proof
I found something he did wrong

My World Eaters got absolutely fucking TABLED by a Drop Pod Word Bearers list. Like, it was pretty embarrassing.

I'll offer up a story time, if you guys want. The photos I took were absolute dogshit, unfortunately.

>>50537794
>Daemon Prince or not I think we can confirm he's the strongest of the Emperor's true sons
Yep.

>In terms of metaphysical ritual, it was the single most powerful arcane gambit to have been attempted since the ignition of the Astronomican. With the destruction of Midgardia harnessed by the Silver Towers, it had been an unqualified success.

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>>50538142
>I'll offer up a story time, if you guys want.

Anything to save us from Magnus-posting.

>>50538142
That sounds 1,000 percent better than the guy trying to bait retarded yifss into yiffing at the moon with his Magnus posting. Please do.

>Discussing fluff in now looked down upon
Well then. Fun.

>>50534228

It just opens the door for daemon Alpharius


HYDRA BOWL CONFIRMED GET HYPED

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>>50534228

>Dorn cut off "Alpharius" hands
>all they find of Dorn is his hand

>>50538261
Discussing 40k fluff in the 30k thread is looked down on, yes.

Also you smell like poop and no one likes being in the same thread as you.

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>>50538181
>>50538200
Okay then.

So, I'm bringing my very, very janky World Eaters list against an Orbital Assault Word bearers army. It was some kind of Serrated Sun weird thing, I'm not sure. We roll some absolute garbage for the mission scenario and deployment. It ends up being an ambush deployment, with me taking the short table edges and him taking the middle (which he doesn't actually deploy in, what with an all-drop pod army and all) and we're playing Denial (of the Shadow Wars in Book 6).

So, I split up my army, thinking that my deathstar units will provide enough of a distraction to allow my tacticals to grab the objective and hold it. Boy, was I fucking wrong.

>>50538322
Sure enjoy your non-canon BL discussions then.

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>>50538310
Anon pls, if you want a real Alpha Legion twist then its

>Soul Drinker second founding chapter is guarding a relic of Dorn and goes renegade trying to recover the SPEAR of Dorn
>Dorn never had a spear
>Soul Drinkers arent Imperial Fists successors
>Dorn took Alpharius' pale SPEAR

Soul Drinkers confirmed for Alpha Legion sleeper agents that forgot they were Alpha Legion, except for that dreadnought.

>>50537932
>the Dark Angel spell library
>immune to all mortals weapons and ALL holy weapons of the Imperium.
I mean, I know our thing is having mad bling and shit, but really guys?

Why do we not cast that shit on fucking everything all the time? Why was that even in the vault? Give that shit to Ezekiel and be like "start buffing our shit, bro-libby"

>>50538151
I call bullshit. It's clearly not on par with the Ruinstorm.

>>50538380
soul drinkers are retarded enough to be alpha legion, that's for sure

>>50538380
>Dorn took Alpharius' pale SPEAR
Truly he did, and on many occasions.

>>50538482
Kek.

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>>50538346
His first turn comes in, and he drops a bunch of veterans, Erebus, and two Leviathan dreadnoughts on the board edge holding the meat of my army. His vigilator also manages to do 2 glancing hits on my Sicaran Battle tank coming in, so that was lovely.

My despoiler squad gets shot to oblivion, my Spartan takes some damage, and not a lot else really happens.

>>50538151
That wasn't his doing. It was a whole bunch of towers and cabals of dudes inside said towers.

>>50538063
He didn't jump started nothing. The 13th Black Crusade was launching with or without him.

And again, his main goal was to murder the wolves and Fenris. He got kicked out and settled with less.

>>50538416
Why would the Dark Angels need immunity against imperial and holy weaponry? Think about what you are saying man. The Dark Angels are Imperials.

>>50538616
>Denial the post

>>50537754
>>50537787

Nobody cares about BL's headcanons, no matter how much their paid to write it. Not even GW, the guys paying them.

Alpharius's death is ambiguous, like every other thing about them. Confirming anything about the Legion other than "They're tricky, sneaky, and have multiple commanders at every level" ruins them.

>>50538063
>they all disappear before the final fight as they have already achieved their job.

Also bullshit. Magnus disappeared because the Grey Knights kicked him out.

He was in the process of merrily slaughtering the Wolves and Grey Knights and conquering Fenris when Logan smacked him with the axe.

This left him open for the Grey knights banishment spells. Magnus tried to hold on and combat the Grey knights but the Grey knightts were too strong so he got booted out.

The rest of his crew were booted out also excepting some of them that were left behind to die.

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>>50538534
My half of turn 1 sees me run my Tactical Squads and Butcher-holding Land Raider as far up the board as I can, and I get my Spartan away from the doomed board edge. It, my Sicaran, and my heavy support squad shoot up one of the Leviathan dreads a bit, immobilizing it. My jetbikes move up, little knowing what foul fate will soon befall them.

-TURN 2-

The rest of his shit drops on, with no problems whatsoever. He gets his Gal Vorbak and some more veterans on the board edge, which is now absolutely fucking swamped with models. Additionally, right up next to my Jetbikes (and comfortably close to the objective), he drops a plasma gun support squad. They shoot my Jetbikes, and kill them twice over. In doing so, one Word bearer dies to his own gun, so I had that going for me.

>>50538694
>>they all disappear before the final fight as they have already achieved their job
I was talking about the silver towers mate. Obviously.

>>50538676
You

see

>>50538694

STOP BEING CANCER, TSFAGS.

>>50538686
Sorry, BL is the word of god on the HH. Alpha is dead regardless of your wishes and lies.

>>50538686
>Nobody cares about BL's headcanons
The twin primarchs existing in the first place is their creation. If they want to kill one of them off, there's nothing really stopping them.

If you want to ignore BL's tomfoolery, you have to go to the pre-cabal, pre-retardation alpha legion lore, where his loyalties and motives were more obvious... and honestly rather straightforward.

>>50538714
What about the Silver Towers poisoning Fenris's World Spirit and suimmoning daemons on it? What happened to them?

They got booted out. Magnus's revenge got denied at least for now.

>>50538721
>STOP BEING CANCER, TSFAGS.
Misquoting something halfway through a sentence so you can straw man it. No you are the cancer.

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>>50538714
Meanwhile, back on the ranch, my Spartan gets cracked the fuck open by a Leviathan dread, spilling out my squad of Terminators. That side of the board is fucked, and I was hoping to kite as much of his force away for as long as possible with the group. That dream was soon to get crushed, however.

>>50538752
They left when Midgardia died. They had enough power for their ritual. Did you read the story or not?

>As the physical blast of the Space Wolves’ planet-shattering Exterminatus roared towards them, the Silver Towers had harnessed the tidal wave of psychic energy that came before it. Brighter and brighter they had shone until the physical dimension could hold them no longer. At the apex of their psychic harvest, they winked out of existence and returned to orbit the sorcerous orb they called home. The commanders of the Imperial fleet that defended the Fenris Sector had rejoiced at their enemy’s disappearance, little realising that Magnus’ plans had not suffered a retreat, but ensured a major advance along the vengeful path he hadchosen.

>>50538768
Replying to the intention of your post that's meant to show that the TS were victorious. They were not. They lost. End of story.

And if we want to gauge the power of daemon Primarchs, then Magnus is the weakest of the shown ones.

You know why? Once the axe unbond the immunity spell, the Grey Knights swiftly booted out Magnus.

Compare that to Angron and how brutal it was for the Grey Knights to banish him. Heck, even Morty in the audiobook was a nightmare to banish.

>>50534420
Kabuki. Hydra Knight.

>>50538795
The Silver Towers nearby Midgardia, dumbass. Not the Silver Towers on Fenris.

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>>50538784
My turn rolls around, and I retreat my Terminator squad and Praetor while the rest of my dudes run up the board to reinforce him/run to the objective/salvage something out of this shitshow. A 15-man tactical squad runs up to the plasma support squad, on the off chance they can kill them with enough men left over to hold the objective. The Terminators were shaken by the Spartan's explosion, so instead of trying to shoot, they just run further away. In retrospect, I really, *really* should have just charged them into something.

>>50538817
Holy bias batman. This conversation won't be continuing.

>>50538852
What bias? You mean citing facts?

Magnus is the weakest of the Daemon Primarchs it's bloody confirmed.

>>50538261
I too want to know about the stuff, but I can't keep up with 40kg, srry. If it helps, it's just that people have seen too much Magnusposting. They're shell shocked.

Ignore the 12 year old, you don't smell like poop

>>50538380
What Dreadnought? No, I did not read the series.

>>50538456
Same.
It's Astronomicon, Ruinstorm, Magnus' folly, and maybe Pharos before this one.

>>50538870
>No mortal weapon could harm him, and thanks to the work of the Blue Scribes, neither could the enchanted relics of the Imperium.

----------------------

>With a deafening roar of pain, Magnus swatted Grimnar back over the lip of the precipice. His allies were close at hand, and more than ready to seize their chance. A gleaming throng of Grey Knight Purifiers gained the chasm’s edge, blades extended to pour the white fires of banishment into the Daemon Primarch’s wound. Magnus’ arcane aura had been compromised badly, for though he possessed wards against every weapon the Imperium might throw at him, he could not guard against an axe once forged in the name of the Blood God. He lashed out with his immense staff, its blade cutting nine of the Grey Knights in half at the waist, but it was a blow of spite rather than conquest. The psychic might of the Grey Knights, still ranged against him, poured through the gap torn in his arcane shielding, incandescent in their power as they burned away the Daemon Primarch’s flesh. In moments, he was wreathed head to toe in blazing white fire.

>For a heartbeat, Magnus glowed brighter than the Wolf’s Eye. The immense energies playing around him turned him from giant to burning supernova. Every Imperial warrior for miles around was blasted backwards to land steaming in the snow.

>When they got back to their feet, the Thousand Sons, the Daemon hordes and their cyclopean master alike had vanished from existence.

Looky here. God mode was removed. Magnus got booted out.

Neither Angron or Morty had any god mode when they fought the Grey Knights.

>>50538456
>>50538924
The ritual relocated a planet through the Warp and smashed a permanent exit wound in real space. IIRC, it send echoes of DOOM over the galaxy.

>>50538840
>both leviathans in boring poses and armed identically
that is one boring dude

>>50538968
Eh, Scoria did the same, arguably, without being a psyker Daemon Primarch. He just was good at programing daemons

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>>50538973
I'm just happy everything was painted, honestly.

>>50538840
As it turns out, one of the Leviathan Dreadnoughts hadn't fired their Phosphex barrages yet. It does so, and deletes my Terminator squad, leaving only my Praetor alive. He gets shot down shortly afterwards.

That tactical squad that was going to rush the Plasma support squad gets shot, predictably. There's a Master of Signals in the unit, which drops his bombardment on the squad, followed by a massive amount of plasma shots. I think around 5 of his guys die to Gets Hot, which is fucking rad, but I'm left with around 3 models of the squad left. My other tactical squad gets shot to shit, as is expected.

>>50538017
The Fists are sort of in denial about Dorn

Curze was the only primarch to hate his own sons so it's no wonder the NL's didn't really care

Black Legion were broken from Horus' death for a long period of time till Abby put them back together again.

Salamanders know that VULKAN LIVES

>>50539089
>Curze was the only primarch to hate his own sons so it's no wonder the NL's didn't really care

The legion broke apart and no one can bind it together. In fact, Konard made it so that they would always infight over his legacy.

Also they ganged up to hunt the temple responsible for his death.

>The Fists are sort of in denial about Dorn

The Fists are ded. Long live the Fist Exemplar.

>Black Legion

You mean Sons of Horus.

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>>50539015
In the next turn, my Red Butchers take revenge on the Leviathan Dreadnought; they kill it, then die to shooting and a Gal Vorbak charge right afterwards. My land raider also dies, leaving that half of the board entirely under Word Bearers control.

God these pictures are fucking garbage.

>>50539089
I still cannot believe Abaddon is a better Warmaster of Chaos than Horus. He totally should have Eternal Warrior. Or at least the come back from the dead Loken has.

>>50539151
Sorry, the come back from the dead isn't for Abaddon, I accidentaly deleted that Khârn should have either EW, IWND or Lokens rule.
But Abaddon should have Eternal Warrior

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>>50539132
That one tactical squad that was squaring off with the plasma support squad actually had only a single guy left, I fucked up.

Anyways, he attempts to charge in. He dies, obviously, but 3 or 4 of the WBs die to Gets Hot, which is fucking fantastic as far as I'm concerned.

The other squad gets shot at a bit, charges into combat, kills around 2 guys, and die. So, in short, I lost the game in about 3 turns, and got tabled on the 4th.

What a garbage battle, goddamn.

>>50539169
Well you weren't really prepared to kill two Leviathans. I think nobody ever is, but you also got unlucky when all the termie squad died in a single attack, although you should have made them charge that Leviathan.

>>50539151
He's not a better warmaster then horus. He just put the Legion back together again after it fell apart.

>>50539188
Yeah, two leviathans really fucked my day. Besides, my army list is designed to be a proactive, aggressive, unified force. Being spread out and forced to react to being picked apart really, really didn't work out well for me.

>>50539199
Even if he wasn't then, he is now. Horus was barely 200 years old and he only managed to be Warmaster for about less than a decade.

Abaddon has been Warmaster for 10 000 years, has had other Primarchs join him as guests, so that possibly-vat-grown child treats the god's chosen as equals, and has battled astartes longer than Horus was alive, and before you say about how the Crusades have failed or something, he has done that 13 times.

Horus did only one, had the element of surprise as well as overwhelming numbers and it ended on him being deader than Horus.

>>50539015
>S P A R T H I C C U S

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>>50539248

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>>50539402
>Even though you have said nothing but facts, I don't like those so you're Carnac ADB Laurie and Reddit

>>50539199
He is better than Horus. For one, Abaddon plays the Chaos Gods. Horus was played by the Chaos Gods.

Would I be able to get away with 40k Raptors for a Night Lords legion?

>>50539545
No.

>>50539566

Why not?

>>50539545
If you can get those classy old metal ones sure.

>>50539579

What's so bad about the current Raptors, especially with Night Lords.

>>50539591
Nothing, its just that the old metal jump packs on those models look super slick.

>>50539601

I didn't realize there was much difference.

>>50538649
Because traitors have Imperial weapons, xenos weapons are generally mundane, and those black guys who don't exist have the Emperor's own boltguns.

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>>50539591
they look like shit

>>50539402
If this is Carnac he's actually making sense for once.

>>50539697
>>50539449

Samefag

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>>50539697
Because I'm not ;^)
Ok maybe my opinion is as biased as they come, I do like that writing about Abaddon. What he has done however, Horus would have done it faster.

Turns out Abaddon's Hit&Run attacks on the Imperium are more survivable than Horus' Tip of the Spear, even if they indeed do less damage and take longer.

So, he's Horus with patience?

>>50539739

>>50539790
>Horus would have done it faster.

The Chaos Gods disagree. When Horus entered the Gateway to the Gods, they used future Abaddon's voice to mock him. You know, the famous quote about him being weak and a foul and wasting his chance.

Clearly, the Chaos Gods knew he was going to fail and not cut for the job. Ergo, why they named him the "Sacrificed King" and why they named Abaddon their Ascendant.

>>50539841
>they used future Abaddon's voice to mock him
Ooooow. Damn poor Horus, he had no chance at all.

If regular raptors are no good, is there an alternative to paying $50 for a squad of FW raptors?

>>50539929
ya boy chinaman

>>50539969

I suppose. Never ordered from them before, and I've heard Z ignores orders that aren't like $200

>>50539969

Guzma get out

>>50540001
Z is a faggot with shit cast quality, get in on CCoN or someone like that

>>50540272

CC doesn't have Night Raptors, just the terror squads, which don't help me when I already have 50 marines

>>50540302
that's a shit deal
rumour has it wardreams back in action, might be able to get a hold of him if you look around

>>50540362

Would he have them? How's his pricing/quality?

>>50540369
he has all of the Horus heresy stuff for the most part, his pricing is more than other recasters but his quality is second to none

>>50540539

Well, I have no idea how to find him, but I know enough not to ask.

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Command squads should be able to take any legion-specific wargear available to sergeants.

Discuss.

>>50534330
Take a little greenstuff under the helm, jeez.

>>50540874
*pictures an Iron hands Cataphractii command squad all with 2+ 3++ saves*
hnnnngggg

>>50534865
I think the contemptor is okay. It could be better in a lot of ways (it needs a big iron warriors face on its left shoulder or the chest piece), but as things go, a "Mark V" dreadnought is an interesting concept and a cool aesthetic, particularly for the Iron Warriors, who don't give a fuck about the lives or dignity of their soldiers.

Before the Heresy, though, and particularly before Perturabo took over, Dreadnoughts should look "smooth", and the weird compass symbols on the tactical chests would fit well on the contemptor.

>>50540874
Give them all 2 wounds and make them all Characters. Make the standard bearer an upgrade, rather than a "sergeant".

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>>50540987
>tfw

>>50532773
Quick question.
Do the plastic Marines that GW produce from both the HH boardgames have specific legion markings on them? I'm planning a small force but I am yet to decide on a Legion and I don't fancy having to remove specific iconography.

>>50541120
Apart from Ahriman and NotBjorn Fellhand no, they don't have legion specific markings.

>>50541189
Thanks.

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Thoughts on these things?

>>50541728
It was 8 hours ago anon, replying to that post now will only reignite the conversation if anything, not halt it.

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>>50541765
Not as sexy as these things.

>>50541770
I fixed my mistake.
>>50541778
The bug eyes are almost a deal breaker for me.

>>50541765
Amazing models. 6 with power fists will make a mockery of most units, though they're expensive and there are better options, especially with arlatax and vultarax in the same slots.

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Legio Cybernetica sure did have some interesting color schemes back in the day.

>>50541977
That designer was definitely smoking something, yikes.

>>50541778
I keep looking at the Mechanicum stuff and I really have trouble deciding what to buy next. It all looks great and has at least decent rules. I convert my Thralls so I don't have to fork out for them, though.

Vorax look badass and are awesome, I really should consider buying three.
Currently painting a box of Enginseers and Servitors to fix my tanks, it's quite tempting to paint Securitron faces on them and my 40k Kastelan robots.
What do people use as Arlatax automata, and is there any news on a model for them and Anacharis Scoria?

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>>50541996
I don't think smoking drugs can produce something like this. Maybe snorted or injected.

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>>50542013
Who likes candy stripes?

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>>50542020

>>50542013
crack is smoked though right?
Those patterns are insane, there's almost no way to even paint that.

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>>50542031
>crack is smoked though right?
Yes but I don't think crack can produce crazy color scheme ideas like that. Maybe LSD.

>>50542042
yeah, LSD does seem more likely.

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>>50542055
I just want to pic the cogboys who painted these robots like this, and see techpriests from other Forge Worlds react to their color schemes.

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>>50541112
>Vigil Pattern Storm Shields + Solarite Power Gauntlets + Tartaros

mfw


Also, a question /tg/, can a Legion Centurion Librarian take Angel of Death Psychic Disciplines?

>>50542377
>Also, a question /tg/, can a Legion Centurion Librarian take Angel of Death Psychic Disciplines?
No. That would be frowned upon.

>>50542461
Got it, thanks.

>>50540874
Yes, that they can't must be a huge oversight from FW, because a lowly tactical sergant being allowed a Phoenix spear and the guy carrying the legion banner not is just plain pants-on-head stupid.

>Command squad in terminator armour with powerfist and powerdaggers
>erect.jpg

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>>50542476
Glad to be of help.

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>get my shit absolutely pushed in by castellax
>notice Z is selling them for $16 a pop plus sale discount

Someone stop me

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>>50543586
Do it! Let the Mechanicus Flow through you!

>>50543586
>Z

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>>50542377
>Vigil Pattern Storm Shields + Solarite Power Gauntlets + Tartaros

Sadly Storm Shields aren't allowed on Tartaros armour, or else an IF deathstar would be something incredibly powerful (rather than just terribly powerful :p). And Solarite gauntlets are only for independent characters too.

This leaves me wondering what the hell legion would be the best use of the Tartaros Armour from the Prospero box set, since it doesn't give any real advantage to me over the Fists and Iron Warriors I have already (Indomitus and Cataphractii respectively).

My instinct tells me that World Eaters would be the best legion for generic Tartaros armour. (Not talking about "special" units wearing Tartaros armour).

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Ogryn will only follow orders given to them by a man with an impressive hat. Pickelhaubes and horsehair crests just aren't as good as a peaked cap.

Speaking of World Eaters, I'm looking at Gahlan Surlak, their apothecary special character, and the rule that makes tactical squads into "Inductii".
It says they "no longer count as scoring units". Does this mean that they would no longer fulfill the compulsory troop requirement on the FOC?

>>50543883
>Skull and hat is placed over radio
>Ogryn thinks the radio is a commissar

Bravo Nolan.

>>50543883
"Do you feel in charge?"

>>50533624

I think so. You want a mix in your squad. If you have 10 of them maybe 2 pairs would be enough.

>>50543813
EC do gain all those lovely bonuses to sweeping advances.

>>50543813
EC are best in Tartaros, crusader and additional initiative to mop people up.

>>50543924
>>50543926
the guy with the pickelhaube is actually their boss, but his primary function will be to catch dreadnought powerfists with his iron coat so the ogryn can tear them apart with S8 attacks

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>>50543926
Of course.

>>50543926

Perhaps he's wondering why you'd shoot a man, before throwing him out of a Valkyrie.

>>50543943
>>50543949
And they don't need the 4++ as much, given their enemy may not get to swing back.

>>50543813
I actually could see a use for tartaros for IW, namely using some lightning-claw dudes as a bodyguard for perty to give him some anti-tarpit help. Is fairly specific, I'll admit.

I am considering either a Solar Auxilia or Mechanicum army to start 30k, but while I was at the local GW on Saturday everyone said they were overpowered and I don't want to be a dick, but SA look a bit unvaried and I don't like the aesthetic much.

Are Mechanicum Tau-level hated, or were they being OTT? AFAIK they were mostly running footslog Calth and Prospero boxes with Primarchs, Knights and Land Raiders/Converted 40k basilisks. Would MC be really hard on that Meta or something, and what can I do to not be a dick?
Was planning the Cybernetica bundle and then expanding into Ordo Reductor and the non-automata stuff. 4 Castellax and a Thanatar are about perfect for cool heavy firepower.

>>50544075
>footslog calth
Mechanicum rapes that if they don't have vets or plasma.

>knights
They are being pussies. Knights are very tough for cybernetica to deal with.

Also, Solar Auxilia are pretty average, not much to worry about. Just don't spam those T7 brobots too much.

>>50544132
OK. I think I'll get the Cybernetica bundle, then some Thralls and such and Ordo Reductor stuff. Is there a good way to deal with Knights short of throwing 4 Kraken missiles at one? Maybe a Krios Venator would do some work.

Spent a while reading through the AM book. Seems like it could mostly be decent, it's only really nasty if I spam MCs?

Obviously I want a few, because they're awesome looking, but would the whole 4 Castellax and Thanatar be too much?

>>50544210
Triple Krios Venators can kill a knight. Expensive however.

My rule of thumb is no more than 6 Castellax and 2 Thanatars at 2500. 8 Castellax at around 3000.

>>50544053
That's not a bad idea. But how do "anti-tarpit" units like that work if Perturabo is going to be facing a deathstar designed for termie-to-termie combat? Is sweeping advance still of use there, particularly if the enemy is likely to have a Primarch and/or is fearless?

>>50544263
>But how do "anti-tarpit" units like that work if Perturabo is going to be facing a deathstar
terribly, because primarch deathstar vs primarch deathstar ultimately just stays in place for the rest of the game unless someone rolls real bad

>>50544239
6 Castellax and 2 Thanatars still seems excessive at 2500 points. I've never seen anybody here beat it, and that includes somebody fielding 40 missile launchers, 10 lascannons and a knight atrapos against it.

>>50544290
How the fuck did the robots survive all that?

>>50544239
Good. Then I am about within the boundaries of 2k decency. Problem is, we play on a 4x4 table a lot since the Games Workshop is quite small, so if I am not careful the Knight will just jump on and eat my face.

I suppose I could always tarpit it with Thralls, but Stomp would thin them out quickly.
Probably dual Lightning fighters if the blueshirt allows me to use a conversion/proxy idea I've had floating around.

I assume that the usual lists are less heavy on the footslog? Seems like they saw 30k and bought Calth, a Primarch, a Knight and then other toys.

>>50544290

Hmm. Might be a problem if they can't hurt me without Primarchs pr Knights I in turn can't kill.

How many thralls is good at 2/2.5 K?. Was planning on 20 at 2k then 40 at higher, they seem so useful.

>>50544307
Space Roman Martian Super Science, son.

>>50544284
Okay, so what contexts would you forsee the tartaros LCs being useful for defending Perturabo? Seems to me they'll be kited or outclassed in melee.

>>50544307
Cover ? The Thanatars could just happely camp behind some ruins all game and rain hot plasma death on all the heavy support squads. It only takes like one decent hit to wipe out most of one of those, and there were also two 6 thallax with 2 phased plasma fusils to make sure no marines survived the first shooting phase.

>>50544344
Anon that came up with the idea initially here. Basically, it's widely viewed that an issue pertuarbo has is his (relatively) low number of attacks, and his classic bodyguard of iron circle robots don't really solve this. I just thought LC termis could help with this issue, while perty himself smashes anything the LC dudes can't handle.

>>50544323
Well I have no knights, primarch or deathstar and the best I've managed is getting massacred by the end of turn 3. I tried lots of long range fire (doesn't matter, Thanatars don't need LOS and my marines can't move and shoot) lots of units in rhinos (didn't have enough firepower) and using as many units with invul. saves as possible (died to weight of fire) but nothing worked so far.

>>50544435
OK, so go easy on the megabuff robots. Thing is, there isn't really a Mechanicum variant that DOESN'T have loads of barragy death. Thanatars, Ordo Reductor, anything.

One Thanatar tops for me then, and if I get any LoW I'll make it a Baneblade variant.

I really like the creeping barrage/shock troops assault in afterwards thing, though, and it's a shame it's this strong.
No, I don't want to play Iron Warriors, I want robots, Space PHD and steampunk.

>>50544375
That makes sense, but to me if you take termie bodyguards you might as well go all-out.

>>50534131
I think Omegon probably died. He kind of has to, given that the Alpha Legion is less-ambiguously traitor-aligned by M41. If he were alive it'd be harder to explain their actions.

>>50544663
In the end they both end up dead, yes, just like how it origninally only was Alpharius dead at Eskrador.

>>50544663
He either died or used Guilliman's good graces to completely wash his hands of the alpha legion and disappear, leaving them to become the chaotic stupid mess they are in 40k.

>>50544719
Or Omegon replaced Guilliman. Would't that be entertaining once he gets out of that stasis field

>I thought I was done for, but I thank you, my Alpha Legion, for keeping me ...
>Oh. Whoops.

>>50544808
Of all the low effort "tweests" I'd hope they don't do that.

>>50544487
I thought Thanatars were considered a little underpowered.

>>50544808
Why would Fulgrim hurt Omegon?

>>50541977
>>50542013
>>50542020
>>50542042
>>50542073

>Implying the circus robots aren't radical as fuck.

Just thinking of seeing those paintjobs on modern models, with modern techniques, proper weathering and all makes me diamond hard.

hhg how do I get to use a greater brass scorpion in 30k?

>>50544982
It's Fulgrim, could be any reason.

But most likely because he didn't know or notice

>>50545048
Weep, for that is the coolest thing in 40k that hasn't yet been implemented.

>>50545033
I'm not dissing them, I just find it werid that the AdMech of all people would use those schemes.
>The Crusade was a wild time.

>>50545048
Hopefully it gets added when Mechanicum goes full chaos.

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>>50532773
>>50532773
>Last time on Horus Heresy G we received official confirmation on a theory about ADB
EXPLAINNN
Also Pertuabo is literally hitler

>>50545354
You know the meme about him having daddy issues? Well, it turns out his dad was an alcoholic who would beat his mom.

>>50532974
He played ultramarines, which as we all know means everyone is jeaulous of their players and wish to be them

>>50545433
Dubs confirm.

>>50533371
>sixty million
Oh vey
Also source pls

>>50534136
Slaanesh, explains why they all had mutations, space aids will do that to you

>>50544323
> 2k game
> 4 x 4 board
Anon are you fucking kidding me?

>>50545473
warhammer monthly or inferno!

I think it was a kal jerico comic?

>>50544323
>we play on a 4x4 table a lot since the Games Workshop is quite small,
Take two tables. Put them together. Play on an 8x4 table.

This game is simply not made to be played on a 4x4 table above about 750 points.

>>50545519
I'm afraid I am not. I would like larger tables, but the shop is small and the biggest I've ever played on is 5*5. Doesn't help that most of the time half the painting table is showing off new releases, so half the game tables are used as painting stations instead, and the last board is for newbies into games. Often there is literally one 4 by 4 board period.

Good thing most of the 30k players always use 800pt + deathstars and Knights, keeps the unit count down.

>>50545655

Literally only one table some of the time. Also only GW terrain, obviously, so we often have 5 pieces tips for the board. I keep offering to make some and/or put some more down, but even the assault players are used to it. Didn't know it was strange until I started posting on /tg/.

No other stores close, either. I still have a lot of fun the players bar two are great and the blue shirt is nice.

>>50545519
GW opened a bunch of stores in indoor shopping malls here in the US. Terrible choice. The stores are extremely narrow and most of the teenage boys at the mall are there because their girlfriends have dragged them there. Strip malls are far better choices: lower rent, larger spaces, don't have to walk past throngs of shoppers while carrying your army, don't have to walk past lots of girls, and you won't have random people walking into the store asking if they sell video games.

>>50545835
Close enough, but UKfag here. City centre store, anyway. We have 3 tables, one painting, one display/intro games and one split into two 4 by 4. Or at least, we do on Saturday, the only day I can play.
And as I mentioned, half of the painting table is often showing off something like Blood Bowl or Prospero, so we have less space than that.

>>50545923
Mine is the same, but it has a display cabinet.

>>50540874
But why would you take the unique units then, no need to do deathshroud now

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>>50532773
Hey all, got my standard 30 space marine starter pack aka betrayal at calth

I was wondering if anyone knew any good places to get cheap jump pack bits, I'm considering blood angels but I need like 30 jump packs to spam assault since I want to do something you can't do in 40k easily

On a similar note how are destroyer squads? I haven't played much HH at all but they seem... amazing, especially with the blood angels special rule letting them wound on 2s with rad grenades.

>NB4 BAngels using destroyers isn't very fluffy

>>50543883
Love that pimp staff, I modeled a tempestor prime as my IG commander with volkovs cane

>>50546074
>On a similar note how are destroyer squads?
Awful, but I use Breachers so who cares.
>Using squat marines with jump packs.

>>50546140
>breachers

The madman.

>>50546140
Can you elaborate? 12" movement is great, Phosphex bombs make termies cry and hitting on 4s and wounding on 3-2s is awesome right?

I know they're expensive but that's 30k

>>50546074
Regarding Destroyers: In theory, they're an awesome pick, but they suffer from being horribly overpriced ! There're lots of better choices to be had for less points I'm afraid.
Personally, I have on unit of them simply for sake of aesthetics and fluff which I run in my lists from time to time.

>>50545953
Ours has a couple in the windows, but the table next to the door is showing off Sigmarines and the Dark Vengeance set, which is a bit irritating when there are 4 people queing for a board and we can't move the advertising. What do they think will make them more business, a bunch of people playing and having fun or a big line of grumbling players and some pretty minis?

>>50546074
Destroyers are generally considered overcosted, especially since assault marines got made cheaper in the last book. I mean:
>10 assault marines PLUS 1 forgelord with jump pack & rad grenades = 290 points
>10 destroyers with jump packs = 325 points
It's just ridiculous.

>>50546185
>I know they're expensive but that's 30k
That's really not true anymore. There's been pretty wide point reductions across the board and destroyers have been left behind because of it.

>>50544982
>>50545088
Because he enjoyed that. Getting a nice sparring with beloved brother in narcotic mist and probably mirrors EVERYWHERE. So perfect.

>>50546185
There's other ways to deliver phosphex bombs. Leviathans, lightning, siege breaker, etc. For rad missiles, techmarines with missile launcher servitors will fill in that need much better. Rad grenades, sure, but they're on an expensive squad with only one power weapon. Meanwhile, say, DG assault squads can bring 20 dudes with 5 power weapons and rad grenades on the sergeant (assuming The Reaping RoW).

>>50546237
Ah so basically you're paying like 50 extra points just for phosphex, which I'm betting you can get from cheaper places,

So what about an assault squad blob with a techmarine rocking rad nades and an apothecary? Seems pretty Killy to me

>>50545409
Source?

>>50545453
>Get banned on /vg for saying '5 names my colonial nation
>you free flow
Good to know 4chan mods walk in lockstep

>>50546495
There's a link in the last thread to it. First post too.

>>50546522
Dubs confirm.
:^)

>>50546522
>'5 names my colonial nation
>>you free flow
The what?

>>50546585
>Irish girls, man. Built to breed. Make a note of that
Reminds me of 'old enough to bleed, old enough to breed' false flag

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>>50546882
The what now?

>>50546882
>Read this
>Go back and read the blogpost
Is ADB's son going to succeed his dad and write about how the Emperor really wanted the Primarchs to be girls.

>>50547004
a lengthy greentext or fake blogpost about some woman going into a game store and getting creeped on by caricature neckbeards

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>>50547030
The unrelenting horror.
>>50547033
Thanks.

>>50546819
>>50546819
The posting ending 5 would pick the name of colonial Columbia as I couldn't think of one, as dubs don't appear on /vg
You freeflow means you don't get banned

>>50546230
>What do they think will make them more business, a bunch of people playing and having fun or a big line of grumbling players and some pretty minis?
Having only one worker who will have to kick everyone out and lock up anytime they need to take a leak, of course.

>>50547060
>dubs don't appear on /vg/
How does that even work?

back on topic. best way to run Medusan Immortals?
i'm thinking going full choom

Rolled 1, 2 = 3 (2d6)

>>50547118
>Best way to run Medusan Immortals?
By passing an LD test first.

>>50547118
>i'm thinking going full choom

Yes, do it!.

>>50547107
They don't appear as dubs

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>>50547118
Marching for that end as well, using the Company of Bitter Iron RoW is a good start.

I plan on going full pimped out 20 man volkite squad with spartans or possibly even a Mastodon as transport.

Sadly this is minimun 1750 points, but I am painting my prosperine MKIIIs currently to be able to go for mechanised assault instead with them in spartans.

I know it is whacky, but it is cool!

>>50547466
Ps:

I like Tanks and blobs, sue me.

>>50547094
Well, our shop has the worker and his son, which would be nice if the son wasn't a complete and utter cunt. He says that people cannot use forge world rules or models or proxies at all, and when I ran my Inquisition in a kill team game he got cross at me using plasma Skitarii as plasma acolytes in Carapace, and "Guardsmen" as regular acolytes despite them not having a model and me converting the guard with Skitarii parts to make them different.
I ran all this past his dad when he got back from the tourney he was at and he said all those things were fine, so I don't know what his problem is.

>>50547505
autism

>>50547118

Choom?

>>50547535
Volkites go CHOOOM!.

>>50547535
The sound Volkites make.

>>50547535
Choooooom!

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>>50547535
Choom.

>>50547563
>>50547584
>>50547693
>>50547765

What a stupid word. Surely a Volkite goes Fwoosh. Choom sounds like a term for semen.

>>50547466
personally i'm slapping them behind aegis defence lines with Icarus Lascannons and ammo dumps

>>50547849
Choom.

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>>50547887
But how will you see your enemies driven before your volkites and crushed underneath the tracks of your tonks if you do not give your two 20 man blobs of immortals transports and PE by including Autek Mor in one of them and using his WL trait?

Sure sounds a lot more defensive what you have planned.

>>50547849
It's like trying to prevent lascannons making a FREEEM sound at this point.

>>50548003
My Dudes fluff is that they were given orders by Ferrus to defend a strong point against any who would dare try to take it. and so they will do so as there is no-one within the iron hands with a high enough rank to countermand the primarch,
i based it off the tales of Japanese soldiers who defended islands well after the war ended simply because their commanders never told them to stop

>>50547849
I would've expected them to go bwawawawa.

>>50546074
maxmini has some heresy-looking jump packs

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>>50548233
Ok, this is pretty amazing.

I am still struggling a bit with my lore besides being on REEE!!!-cruise with Autek and the rest of Morragul.

Will probably write up some personal history dor the unit, how they got "demoted" into Morragul and/or to Immortals and write up sth nice for their personal ship.

Them being a plundering sledge hammer that lands somewhere, crashes gates with their tanks (Mastodon!) and grabs 2hat they can get to resupply the main Morragul fleet sounds fun.

Basically unsubtle Bullies taking your lunch money, probably even from weaker imperial outposts if they think they will use it better than them....

>>50548342
These fellas?
http://maxmini.eu/conversion-bits/torsos-and-arms/silver-wing-jump-packs-bits

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>>50547118
I hope you mean that every infantry model in your army will have a volkite something or other. And your heavy support is a Glaive.

>>50548343
>>50548233
Ps:Where is that point?

Hopefully on some isolated Planetoid like the IW had to man.

>>50548011
>Freem

Not a harsh BZZRAPP from the laser heating up the air and causing it to expand in a small series of mini thunder claps.

FREEM is the sound when the capacitator (orwhatnot) recharges before the next shot.

>>50548414
Not him, but where do you get your anti tank from then?

The glaive alone is enough anti infantry to dial down on Volkite-Immortals.

>>50548414
nah i have a macro cannon Aquilla strongpoint that i'm painting up in black and iron

>>50548447
>Not him, but where do you get your anti tank from then?
Not him, but might I suggest hordes of conversion beamer predators.

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>>50548480
New thread. I botched the summary.

>>50548497
Thanks man, the assault moon is great and I am thankfull you do it.

I am just a tad saddened that Gun noises are not in the write up for the new thread.

>>50539012
Scoria used propulsors attached to asteroids and chained to Xana to relocate, Magnus just snapped his fingers.

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>>50542073
>dem disco pants